Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=FeelzGood;1728569]There must be something wrong that you are not mentioning. Visiting Pattaya is like going to the best buffet with your favorite dishes and not being hungry. P4P is everywhere. You could be blind and bump into a lady that wants a ST or if she is horny LT. Even if your fat, old and ugly there is women that will do ya. Maybe you are to picky or to cheap. Maybe you need to practice your rap like, "How much Baht to go to my Hotel with me". Anyway, to be a 2%er is sad. I propose it isn't Pattaya, it is you![/QUOTE]Yes, as far as sex goes, Pattaya ISN'T for me. I agree. The problem, which I again know is my own fault, is that there are very, very very few women in this town who are appealing to me. And the very few who look attactive all look like either Koreans or Filipinas which are two Asian types I find really attractive. It is like I am a vegetarian at a steakhouse but half of the steaks have penises, LOL!

Its all good. I am in a good mood now. I see guys walking around all day with their "ladies" and I am happy for them. I will escape Thailand soon and be in my own heaven (Angeles City). There is plenty of women planet to go around for ALL men.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1728639]The problem is (and its my fault) I went to the other side of the planet to get with women who aren't attractive. The ones who are attractive are either men or no less expensive than working girls in Zurich or Hong Kong. Believe me I feel a lot better now that I've let it go and I'm just enjoying a PG vacation now and my X-rated vacation can start when I escape Pattaya later this week.[/QUOTE]Hit or miss is part of the hobby. And either the vibe is there or it isn't. Glad you at least have a decent perspective, and can make up for lost time at your next destination.

SL.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1728576]Buddha day holiday. All of the gogos Soi 6 and beer gardens shut down at midnight last night and will remain shut down until midnight tonight. But it really has not put a damper on anything lights are out and they won't sell alcohol but there are still plenty of girls available and still plenty of this going on.

Chris[/QUOTE]Well, you certainly live up to your surname.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1728399]I overstated the point when I wrote scams (plural). The only outright scam I've encountered was a 2000 baht lesson at Sapphire Agogo. Otherwise its just the usual price gouging that you'd find in any tourist city. I am surprised by how expensive Pattaya is since all I've read is about how inexpensive it is compared to other cities. It would probably help if I spoke or at least understood Thai. I stand out really, really easy as a farang sucker, LOL![/QUOTE]I suppose there were a few times when I paid and did not get sex, and quite a few times when I paid and did not get what I expected, but I have a hard time remembering those incidents because of all the great fucking. Plus there was one incident where the girl got embarrassed after fucking me all night when my Thai girlfriend arrived in the morning, and slipped away without me paying her.

Remember, you are in charge, and the customer is always right.

I went to Baccara and was seated right next to the chrome poles. I noticed a girl who had very big tits and a shapely ass. She was #44.

She must have noticed that I was eyeing her, because no sooner had I turned around to ask the Mamasan to bring her next to me for a lady drink than she was here. She introduced herself as Nat. At first I heard Matt and I thought that was a bit unladylike, but thankfully she corrected me.

Her tits were fake, but she told me that she already had big ones before the implants, which is why they still looked very nice. I wasn't sure about her attitude in the sack, but I figured with tits like that you can't go wrong.

So I barfined her and took her to Oasis Hotel on Soi Happy. I instructed her to keep on the yellow bikini she had while dancing. The top fabric can be easily pushed aside to reveal her glorious globes. And her G-string pushed to the side made looking at her pussy and ass from behind even more enticing.

We had a good fuck. Her attitude was OK. Not bad, not great, just OK. But with tits like that I was sufficiently entertained to shoot my load anyway. It was a good time.

Would I repeat? Probably not. Would I recommend? Only for tit lovers.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1728396]I've been in Pattaya since Saturday but I haven't been with any girl yet (except for lackluster visits to Bliss BJ Bar and a dinky massage parlor). Why?

This first trip has been terrible so far but I blame myself. I only came to Thailand because I was returning to the Philippines (which is heaven to me because I am obsessed with Pinays). I figured "Pattaya is Destination #1 so I might as well check it out". Looking at pictures of Thai women online and videos I realized that they are NOT very attractive to me. The ones who were attractive either looked like Filipinas or darker skinned Korean women. I know that I'm in the minority but that's just my preference. So now that I'm here I realize I should have gone with my gut feeling and skipped the trip. Being here and seeing these women face to face did NOT improve their looks.

Now there are a lot of pretty Thai ladies who aren't 4000 baht short time gogo girls. Unfortunately, they are almost always men. This is a situation that I think is unique to Thailand. Yes, trannys are in every city but not to the ridiculous degree that I've seen here in Pattaya. But things are looking up because in a few short days this nightmare can end and I escape to Angeles to start my REAL vacation.[/QUOTE]Lou. I appreciate your honest and I am very sorry that you are not having a good time in Patts. In all my days of mongering there I can only really remember one bad night, and that was all on me and the mistakes I made in choosing girls I did not click with. I hope you will give the scene one last try before you leave as it is, IMHO, really the greatest destination on earth.

But everyone's mileage varies, I guess. We are all different and have different tastes. I guess it's sometimes difficult for guys to understand another guy's preferences and choices (think only of all the guys that make up the huge LB market. I'll never really get the appeal of that).

I wish you the best of luck in your journeys and I really hope you have a better time in the PI.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1728956]Lou. I appreciate your honest and I am very sorry that you are not having a good time in Patts. In all my days of mongering there I can only really remember one bad night, and that was all on me and the mistakes I made in choosing girls I did not click with. I hope you will give the scene one last try before you leave as it is, IMHO, really the greatest destination on earth.

But everyone's mileage varies, I guess. We are all different and have different tastes. I guess it's sometimes difficult for guys to understand another guy's preferences and choices (think only of all the guys that make up the huge LB market. I'll never really get the appeal of that).

I wish you the best of luck in your journeys and I really hope you have a better time in the PI.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much. Perhaps you'd be interested to know that I am slowly coming around to liking Pattaya a lot now and will probably return in a few months. I was a bit too dramatic in my earlier posts (using words like 'nightmare' and such) because I posted while angry. I'm getting into the groove of this weird city and toned down my judging of the Thai ladies' attractiveness. The people are so damned sweet and the women are cuter than I thought so its all good. My first barfine was super sweet and that surprised me because I've read about how Thai women are becoming less GFE. My first girl was very Filipina like in bed so that was a relief. If any of my friends who've never been to Thailand asked me if they should go I'd give a resounding "yes".

Mate,

Is there a Baccarra in Pattaya or are you talking about Bangkok?

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1728918]I went to Baccara and was seated right next to the chrome poles. I noticed a girl who had very big tits and a shapely ass. She was #44.

She must have noticed that I was eyeing her, because no sooner had I turned around to ask the Mamasan to bring her next to me for a lady drink than she was here. She introduced herself as Nat. At first I heard Matt and I thought that was a bit unladylike, but thankfully she corrected me.

Her tits were fake, but she told me that she already had big ones before the implants, which is why they still looked very nice. I wasn't sure about her attitude in the sack, but I figured with tits like that you can't go wrong.

So I barfined her and took her to Oasis Hotel on Soi Happy. I instructed her to keep on the yellow bikini she had while dancing. The top fabric can be easily pushed aside to reveal her glorious globes. And her G-string pushed to the side made looking at her pussy and ass from behind even more enticing.

We had a good fuck. Her attitude was OK. Not bad, not great, just OK. But with tits like that I was sufficiently entertained to shoot my load anyway. It was a good time.

Would I repeat? Probably not. Would I recommend? Only for tit lovers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1729035]Mate,

Is there a Baccarra in Pattaya or are you talking about Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Yes there is one on Walking Street.

Cheers

[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1729035]Mate,

Is there a Baccarra in Pattaya or are you talking about Bangkok?[/QUOTE]There sure is. Located on the beach side of Walking Street about halfway down.

Baccara Go Go on Walking Street is one of the most popular and successful Go Go's in Pattaya. It has no relation to Baccara Cowboy other than its name. I would say both Baccara bars are must go to bars, but I prefer Sensations and Happy Go Go in Pattaya and Crazy House off Soi Cowboy in BKK.

New to the scene. Will be going to Patts with a non-Thai chick that I just met and she's looking to try a threesome with another guy. Any thoughts on where we should look? Read about boyztown, but was thinking that we'd run into a lot of gays?

We're both on the young side, so prefer the same (under 30 ish).

In case you have been living in a cave, Indian punters have a very poor reputation in Pattaya. I'm not an Indian, but I have seen you guys out and about and have spoken to lots of girls. I'm not sure if it's ever going to be recoverable for you guys, but with some effort on your part, you might be able to limit the overt discrimination against you. Please note that I'm not denigrating the Indian race. This advice is meant for newbie Indian punters visiting Pattaya so that they can maximise their pleasure.

1. Don't hold onto your wallet so tightly. Be prepared to tip the girls, waitresses and doormen and buy lady drinks. That's how the service industry works. No girl is going to want to sit with you if you don't buy a lady drink. There are fixed rates for bar fines and commonly accepted rates for the lady's fee. Don't try to negotiate to ridiculous levels as it only pisses the girls off.

2. When you agree the price with the girl, pay her the agreed amount and don't try to renegotiate with her once in the room. This is just plain wrong. Also, tip the girl after you have fucked her, on top of the agreed fee. No girl likes a cheap charlie. Tip should be around 300 THB for ST.

3. Treat the girl with respect and at least like a human being. Don't treat her like a dog. I know in your country, where your minds have been fucked by the caste system, hookers are right down the bottom, but don't apply that logic in Thailand. She is providing you with a service you want, so treat her with some kindness.

4. Don't immediately try to fuck the girl up the ass when you get her into the room. This should be negotiated and no means no. Don't force anal sex on the girl. Also, don't stick your fingers up her ass as most women don't like it.

5. Don't try to hold a gang bang in your room. The girl does not want to enter the room only to find five of your friends waiting inside with their cocks in their hands.

6. Just control yourself and behave respectfully. Yes, there are semi naked women everywhere, but that doesn't mean you can fondle them for free. If you want to squeeze her ass, then slip a THB 100 bill in her g-string. See Point 1 above.

7. Smile a lot and say pleasant things to people. Leave your arrogance, superiority and attitude at home.

8. Bathe, wear deodorant and change your clothes daily. It is a hot country and people tend to stink if they don't shower two or three times a day.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729393]In case you have been living in a cave, Indian punters have a very poor reputation in Pattaya. I'm not an Indian, but I have seen you guys out and about and have spoken to lots of girls. I'm not sure if it's ever going to be recoverable for you guys, but with some effort on your part, you might be able to limit the overt discrimination against you. Please note that I'm not denigrating the Indian race. This advice is meant for newbie Indian punters visiting Pattaya so that they can maximise their pleasure. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the rant, this topic has been discussed endlessly. Your advice while relevant will not really be of much use to majority of the Indian punters on ISG. Why? Because the guys that typically indulge in that kind of shady behaviour do not read / subscribe to this forum.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729393]1. Don't hold onto your wallet so tightly. Be prepared to tip the girls, waitresses and doormen and buy lady drinks. That's how the service industry works. No girl is going to want to sit with you if you don't buy a lady drink. There are fixed rates for bar fines and commonly accepted rates for the lady's fee. Don't try to negotiate to ridiculous levels as it only pisses the girls off. [/QUOTE]I get your point but wonder if this is relevant anymore given that Indians are not allowed into most places, so who does one tip and buy drinks for.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729393] 2. When you agree the price with the girl, pay her the agreed amount and don't try to renegotiate with her once in the room. This is just plain wrong. Also, tip the girl after you have fucked her, on top of the agreed fee. No girl likes a cheap charlie. Tip should be around 300 THB for ST. [/QUOTE]What to do if the "service" was bad? You recommend that tip "should" be THB 300.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729393] 3. Treat the girl with respect and at least like a human being. Don't treat her like a dog. I know in your country, where your minds have been fucked by the caste system, hookers are right down the bottom, but don't apply that logic in Thailand. She is providing you with a service you want, so treat her with some kindness. [/QUOTE]Good point, but again who will educate the scum of Indian society that makes it a point to visit Pattaya (who are likely not members of this forum)?

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729393] 4. Don't immediately try to fuck the girl up the ass when you get her into the room. This should be negotiated and no means no. Don't force anal sex on the girl. Also, don't stick your fingers up her ass as most women don't like it. [/QUOTE]Girls told you this? Indians forcefully demand anal, haha.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729393] 5. Don't try to hold a gang bang in your room. The girl does not want to enter the room only to find five of your friends waiting inside with their cocks in their hands. [/QUOTE]Haha, this one I have heard several times before, both from punters and girls.

Rest of the points are fine, any one with common sense should have been doing them already. I appreciate the effort in writing up this list, but isn't it too late to re-invent the wheel (in this case, the reputation of Indian punters in Pattaya) or do you still see some hope?

[QUOTE=TomSf;1728457]Lou32,

You may be the first man maybe in history to not have a good time in Pattaya. If you are having a bad time I would say that is your own fault and no one else's. There is enough info on ISG on Pattaya that maybe you just did not read. Also Thailand is the one place that you do not need to be able to speak Thai. With 1000's of cheap bar girls everywhere from 500-1000 baht short time. You go to the agogo. Most of the agogo girls are professional hustlers. They take your money and want to cum ASAP so they can get bad to the club to get another chump. But, to be fair most of the a gogo girls are not all that bad compared to other countries and yes many agogo girls want you to pay up front. They will have the I don't give the shit attitude that they will not go with you if you do not pay upfront. Next a gogo girls are very expensive. Usually, like 2000 baht short time plus like 700 bar fine. To all the guys that always insist on not being a cheap charlie I highly suggest always going with a-gogo girls.

But, anyway. Once you learn your way around Pattaya it truly is heaven on earth. But, be careful heaven can turn into hell very fast if you forget the golden rule. That is its all a fantasy and not real. That sentence will make sense after you understand Thailand. But, Thai woman besides they beauty are incredibly cool and just so much fun to hang out with. I can't believe I have to wait till November to go back. I think about being there daily. LOL.[/QUOTE]Of course, IF you have even a minimal command of the language, doors OPEN.