Rio de Janeiro Reports

The last year I have visited Rio 4 x for 3-4 days trips and I had not been there in 6 years. Rio is NOT the same place as it was during the good ole "Help Days" before it closed but a good time can still be had there you just have to know what you are doing / have a game plan. Copacabana is dead when it comes to the availability of free lancers in the day time they are no where to be found from my observations compared to back in the days. For the afternoon I suggest visit the Termas in Copacabana and Centro also hit up the office buildings but you have to put in leg work. This is one big negative I have of Copa now is that it is dead during the night time in my opinion especially at Mabs where the talent is horrible in my opinion. The best talent in Rio is in the Termas and always has been where you can find 8-10's who go all out and fuck your brains out. I need to try the escort scene out there but my only negative about using escorts is that I'm the type of monger who likes to interview my prey before I session with and feel them out. Now Rio at it's present state all you need is 4 days max if you plan to go hard in my opinion and that's with doing the Termas.

Went to 4 x4 last night. Not sure I'm going to add anything new to the board but perhaps it may be useful to post a summary for any newbies planning a trip:

1) Used metro from Copa to Uruguaiana. I think this is the quickest / easiest way to Centro and there are metro stops close to all centres of action (Largo do Machado, Carioca, Uruguaiana). Ticket price is 4. 30 RS. Best thing is to buy a pre-pago metrorio card for 5. 00 RS and load it up for use. You need to buy from the ticket booth (minimum charge is 5 RS) but after that you can recharge at the many machines and avoid waiting in line for tickets. Choose the right barrier to go through. Use the ones signed for metrocard. There are barriers for Riocards as well (a different travel card).

2) I haven't been here since 2015 so the tram lines on Rio Branco were a surprise. As was the advertising sign for 4 x4 on the street sign for Rua Buenos Aires on Rio Branco!

3) as you come out of the metro on Rua Miguel Couto, take any of the roads leading off it and you will have options (prives, termas) on these streets. Alfandega, Buenos Aires, Rosario and Ouvidor. After the barrier, if you walk straight ahead you will come to Rua Miguel Couto and the Rio Branco options, if you turn left you will come out on Av. Presidente Vargas and can cross over to the 'dark side' options.

4) arrived at 4 x4 at 5 pm. Was fairly quiet and was a lot livelier when I was leaving at 7 pm. Seems to be pretty much the same as it was on my last visit in 2015. Yesterday afternoon there seemed to be little variety in body shape. Mainly fairly thin girls with round (but not huge) asses and smallish natural tits, it that is your thing. When I left at 7 pm there was a bit more variety with a few 'horse asses' (as I believe Sperto likes to call them) and few chubby types. I didn't see any huge-titted girls (natural or silicone). I guess I've been spoiled with big naturals in Sao Paulo. I have never gone to the Wiskeria downstairs but everything was happening in the main boate. With the back boate (along the corridor past the changing rooms and up the stairs) pretty dead.

5) I choose Lara. A short morena carioca with a nice large / hard butt and small silicone implants (that point the nipples out sideways, but I tried not to focus on that! No holds barred in the boate (kissing and groping) which is a good sign. Said she does anal but I didn't partake Went with her for one hour. Had a great time. Nice big ass, large 'meat curtains' (as Alexis Texas refers to them in one of her videos), good kisser. Overall not an earth-shattering time, but very good and worth a try.

6) Total cost was 368 RS - 340 for simple suite for 1 hour and 8 RS for bottle of water. An earlier post has photos of the price lists for 4 x4, Cancun and T65. If you session before 6 pm then the entrance fee (50 RS) is waived.

Seems business as usual at 4 x4 but a little quieter than it was 2010-2015.

[QUOTE=PanaNyc;2054269]The last year I have visited Rio 4 x for 3-4 days trips and I had not been there in 6 years. Rio is NOT the same place as it was during the good ole "Help Days" before it closed but a good time can still be had there you just have to know what you are doing / have a game plan. Copacabana is dead when it comes to the availability of free lancers in the day time they are no where to be found from my observations compared to back in the days. For the afternoon I suggest visit the Termas in Copacabana and Centro also hit up the office buildings but you have to put in leg work. This is one big negative I have of Copa now is that it is dead during the night time in my opinion especially at Mabs where the talent is horrible in my opinion. The best talent in Rio is in the Termas and always has been where you can find 8-10's who go all out and fuck your brains out. I need to try the escort scene out there but my only negative about using escorts is that I'm the type of monger who likes to interview my prey before I session with and feel them out. Now Rio at it's present state all you need is 4 days max if you plan to go hard in my opinion and that's with doing the Termas.[/QUOTE]Finally I won't extend my stay in Rio or in Brazil, I will move to Japan July 20. Rio is good only for short time, 3-4 days maximum, Termas are the best options in Rio de Janeiro, better organized, you don't waste your time, time is more important for us.

Copacabana is very dead, Escort websites are like everywhere, you will never get the girl like on the picture so yeah termas are the best option in Rio de Janeiro, you can chill, talk to the girl, if you don't want the girl after interviewing her she leaves you. When you session you always get your money's worth, I just got a bad experience in 4 por 4, but it was not really bad experience, the girl was using her cellphone, she stopped using I asked her to stop. In termas just avoid any girl that ask you to go up and the pushy girls, that means the service won't be good. I noticed in Cancun the girls don't use any cellphone. Cancun is very strict.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2054226]Do you know what year you met Sher? I knew a blonde Sher at 4X4 around 2003. She was always up for anything. Her English was very good and she once helped get three additional girls my crew was interested in to come to our apartment after 4X4. Crazy, crazy night! Sher was the ringleader. I'm not a foot fetish guy, but man o man Sher got some big dogs in your photo.[/QUOTE]Hey Wyatt,

Yeah we're talking about the same one! Met her at 4 X4 in the mid-2000's or so. A cute Euro-Brazilian looking blonde who kept giving me big smiles in the boite LOL! She had a great attitude, spoke decent English, and really went all out to please. One of my favorites of all time! I remember having to struggle to prevent my boner from popping through my robe as we would leave hand-in-hand for a room LOL! Sher loved to give BBBJ / CIM service. She was good at it too and would always urge me, "Cum in my mouth, cum in my mouth! I like it!" I gladly obliged hehehe! Those were the days! And funny you should mention her feet as I never really noticed until I looked at the same photo. It was my job to curl them toes hahaha!

[QUOTE=Komo753;2054214]you have to pay before you go to the room unlike other termas you only pay after the session,.[/QUOTE]To my knowledge, you pay up-front for the session at 502 and T31 also, and maybe MV30 (can't remember). It's more of a 2nd-tier terma approach. Playground is somewhere between trying to be a 2nd-tier term and a Privee.

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience! That sucks!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2054467]To my knowledge, you pay up-front for the session at 502 and T31 also, and maybe MV30 (can't remember). [/QUOTE]Unless it has changed in recent years (since 2015), you pay after the session in MV30.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2054476]Unless it has changed in recent years (since 2015), you pay after the session in MV30.[/QUOTE]MV30 you ways pay after the session, nothing changed, mv30 is also a good terma just sometimes they don't have good looking girls.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2054417]Hey Wyatt,

Yeah we're talking about the same one! Met her at 4 X4 in the mid-2000's or so. A cute Euro-Brazilian looking blonde who kept giving me big smiles in the boite LOL! She had a great attitude, spoke decent English, and really went all out to please. One of my favorites of all time! I remember having to struggle to prevent my boner from popping through my robe as we would leave hand-in-hand for a room LOL! Sher loved to give BBBJ / CIM service. She was good at it too and would always urge me, "Cum in my mouth, cum in my mouth! I like it!" I gladly obliged hehehe! Those were the days! And funny you should mention her feet as I never really noticed until I looked at the same photo. It was my job to curl them toes hahaha![/QUOTE]That's funny. Sher is a great memory. She arranged a 4 on 4 at our apartment after the termas closed one night. We kind of handpicked the girls in 4 x4 later in the evening. I remember we said meet us at our apartment building at 1:00 am. We stopped at TA for awhile to check out the scene. When we got back to our apartment, Sher and company were waiting. So much for flaky, tardy termas girls. The girls got down to business. I joked on the old WSG that that this crew could changed a condom every time we switched partners like an Indy pit crew changing tires. I remember my buddy banging Sher as she braced herself standing in the bathroom doorway. Sher at one point had one leg up. Now I understand how those big feet kept her balanced. Ha-ha!

If I went down with a crew, I would start feeling out the girls at the termas about a "festa" as they were affectionately called. Unfortunately, my crew, while still in touch, does not travel together anymore. Too many grown-up commitments.

It was very busy in Cancun from 6 pm, I only chill, talk to girls and kiss some girls because I thought I will go up with them. I did not session.

There were many men, many of them did not session, they just drink and talk. Many girls were pushy and wanted me to go up, when there are more men, women are more under stress because they think they ll get more clients but finally they get zero clien, another girl told me lets go to the room, there are 2 men that already want to session with me. I said no problem you can join those clients; I am here to chill with a girl before fucking. I don't go to terma for fast fuck. Another girl left me for another client and finally she did not go up with the client and stayed with her friends, she came back to me at 10.30 pm and say now it is late lest go to the room, I said I don't want anymore, maybe Monday.

I only spent 72 reais yesterday, I kissed and touched 3 girls, there were some guys singing and playing instruments.

I never buy drinks for the girls that ask me. I just offer drinks to girls that are very nice, I talked to a girl yesterday, she is very talkative, patient, not pushy, very nice and not too professional. I offered her some drinks. She was not my type, finally she got a client, she is very new in Cancun. She stayed with a client few hours before going up. Some girls ask me to buy pizza, I sent them packing.

When there are more guys it is more stressful, most guys only stay with their friend or just drink and talk to the girls.

Went to Cancun yesterday afternoon, but didn't session, and then went to 4 x4 and sessioned. Each terma has its own vibe and I guess Cancun in the late afternoon doesn't do it for it me (note: I've never been to Cancun in the evening, it may be different).

Over the 8 years, I've been to Cancun about 6-7 times now, always in the late afternoon (4-5 ish) and only sessioned once (maybe twice? When I have gone it has always been very quiet with very few girls in the boate, and most of them just sit around and ignore you. From time to time girls walk in (I guess coming upstairs from the Wiskeria), ignore you, then walk out. The girls don't seem to be very interactive. Two girls did catch my eye. I talked to a girl called Gabriella for a while, who was very pretty and I would have gone with her, but she was covered in multiple large tattoos which is a turn off for me (I don't mind a few but when vast tracts of the body are covered, it doesn't do it for me). When I was changing to leave, the pretty girl with big naturals, who had walked in and out of the boate earlier, walked past so I called her over (with a plan to re-robe). Unfortunately seeing her face to face, I saw she was another tattoo-lover (multiple large ones) with a huge butterfly across her beautiful breasts, so I had to pass.

70 RS entry to Cancun, one bottle of water, one hour wasted. I know the place gets positive reviews but it has never worked for me as a late afternoon spot. I have tried multiple times now with the same result. Go there of you like tattoos.

After Cancun, I went over to 4 x4, and a completely different vibe. More lively and the girls interact with you lot more. They will come up and talk to you (grab your dick sometimes), and for me it is a more enjoyable experience, even if I don't session. This time I went with Charlotte. A gaucha from Porto Alegre, blond, very white-skinned with classic 1950's style bright red lipstick. Nice big bunda, silicone tits but they looked natural. Overall, ok, but not great. Not one to recommend. Wasn't very interactive in the suite. Not as good as Lara the night before. Again, total cost was 368 RS, 1 hour session (360) and bottle of water (8).

The boate was starting to liven up as I left at 7. 30 pm. Outside, there was a protest on Rio Branco, with lots of Police and with helicopters circling overhead, so I quickly got out of the way and headed for the metro back to Copa.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2054793]Went to Cancun yesterday afternoon, but didn't session, and then went to 4 x4 and sessioned. Each terma has its own vibe and I guess Cancun in the late afternoon doesn't do it for it me (note: I've never been to Cancun in the evening, it may be different).

Over the 8 years, I've been to Cancun about 6-7 times now, always in the late afternoon (4-5 ish) and only sessioned once (maybe twice? When I have gone it has always been very quiet with very few girls in the boate, and most of them just sit around and ignore you. From time to time girls walk in (I guess coming upstairs from the Wiskeria), ignore you, then walk out. The girls don't seem to be very interactive. Two girls did catch my eye. I talked to a girl called Gabriella for a while, who was very pretty and I would have gone with her, but she was covered in multiple large tattoos which is a turn off for me (I don't mind a few but when vast tracts of the body are covered, it doesn't do it for me). When I was changing to leave, the pretty girl with big naturals, who had walked in and out of the boate earlier, walked past so I called her over (with a plan to re-robe). Unfortunately seeing her face to face, I saw she was another tattoo-lover (multiple large ones) with a huge butterfly across her beautiful breasts, so I had to pass..[/QUOTE]Cancun (Manhattan) is busier from 6 pm, I have no more interest in going back there. There were only 3 girls I like, I fucked two of them, the third one was too pro and fast so I preferred not to session with her. I went to Cancun, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday and Manhattan (whiskeria) below Cancun Thursday. I did not session Tuesday and Friday in Cancun.

Cancun is a bit dead sometimes and the girls don't interact unlike 4 por 4. It is more a talk terma, if you like to talk to the girls and get laid, Cancun is a good place. But sometimes at night Cancun is busy. Like Thursday and Friday at night, other days, it is very dead. And the girls don't seem to be motivate, some look tired. There are still many girls that were still there last year (2016). There are not many new talents. Fortunately the two girls I sessioned with seemed to be motivate, patient and very nice and they are new in Cancun.

Drinks are more expensive than 4 por 4, one coke cost 13 reais.

I planned to go to 65 Monday but I think I will try 4 por 4, next week will be the week of 4 por 4 and I ll tell you my view.

I plan to go to 4 por 4 at 3 pm and try to session before 6 pm, if not I won't session. If you plan to go to 4 por 4, just let me know we can meet up in the station or in Mabs before going to centro, I ll be in 4 por 4 at 3 pm.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2054417]Hey Wyatt,

Yeah we're talking about the same one! Met her at 4 X4 in the mid-2000's or so. A cute Euro-Brazilian looking blonde who kept giving me big smiles in the boite LOL! She had a great attitude, spoke decent English, and really went all out to please. One of my favorites of all time! I remember having to struggle to prevent my boner from popping through my robe as we would leave hand-in-hand for a room LOL! Sher loved to give BBBJ / CIM service. She was good at it too and would always urge me, "Cum in my mouth, cum in my mouth! I like it!" I gladly obliged hehehe! Those were the days! And funny you should mention her feet as I never really noticed until I looked at the same photo. It was my job to curl them toes hahaha![/QUOTE]Nice pics -never took Sher but she had really cute cousins their that were no joke! Always heard excellent reviews from wingmen about her though.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;2054476]Unless it has changed in recent years (since 2015), you pay after the session in MV30.[/QUOTE]Mv has always been after. The others before. Centaurus also before. Safados.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2054913]Cancun (Manhattan) is busier from 6 pm, I have no more interest in going back there. There were only 3 girls I like, I fucked two of them, the third one was too pro and fast so I preferred not to session with her. I went to Cancun, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday and Manhattan (whiskeria) below Cancun Thursday. I did not session Tuesday and Friday in Cancun.

Cancun is a bit dead sometimes and the girls don't interact unlike 4 por 4. It is more a talk terma, if you like to talk to the girls and get laid, Cancun is a good place. But sometimes at night Cancun is busy. Like Thursday and Friday at night, other days, it is very dead. And the girls don't seem to be motivate, some look tired. There are still many girls that were still there last year (2016). There are not many new talents. Fortunately the two girls I sessioned with seemed to be motivate, patient and very nice and they are new in Cancun.

Drinks are more expensive than 4 por 4, one coke cost 13 reais.

I planned to go to 65 Monday but I think I will try 4 por 4, next week will be the week of 4 por 4 and I ll tell you my view.

I plan to go to 4 por 4 at 3 pm and try to session before 6 pm, if not I won't session. If you plan to go to 4 por 4, just let me know we can meet up in the station or in Mabs before going to centro, I ll be in 4 por 4 at 3 pm.[/QUOTE]Yes Cancun is fraco on talent-always has been. I have been with 2 good ones-only 2-in countless visits.

Tomorrow I will hit every low life spot in centro and t31,mv, afrodite etc and end at VM. Its going to get ugly. I've been seeing non-pro gfs since I came Friday till today so tomorrow I'm aiming to do 4 sessions. Its not often I do but a good 3 sessions from 7 pm to 5 am would be a great welcome back.

I came to 4 por 4 at 2 pm today. I sessioned with Fernanda she doesn't do anal, she let me know she doesn't accept anal before going to the room. , 1 hour 360 reais, I met her at 4 pm05 and stayed with her 1 hour and 20 minutes more or less. I did not pay the entrance because I sessioned before 6 pm.

The service was good, she stayed in the club with me 1 hour and 20 minutes before going to the room for 1 hour, she was very fast in the start but I let her know I prefer to chill with the girl before going up, show me how motivate you are, finally she stayed with me 1 hour and 20 minutes, I kissed her, touched her, she danced for me, she grabbed my dick etc, after 15 minutes she asked me a redbull, I said if I pay the redbull, I can't do the programma, after another 15 minutes she wanted to leave but I kept her from leaving, I said relax we have time, 6 pm is far off and then she stayed with me one hour, we continued kissing, touch each each other. 5 pm30, now it is time to go up.

When I go to the terma, I like to enjoy kissing, touching the girls for 1 hour or 2 hours before going up. I always find an excuse not to buy drinks. In Cancun I offer drinks because I have no choice I have to consume 70 reais. Before going to the room, I like to act like an employer, check how motivate the girl is to make money from me.