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[QUOTE=The Pro]The constant name dropping by a few "friends" of LL is directly for this reason, to market the place and attempt to get newbies to go there...IMO, its overpriced, not very well located for lower Sukhumvit, low standard of quality of rooms. Service is good but sadly the other lagging factors make it overall "overpriced"...But hey, the choice is yours.[/QUOTE]I needed a place to "get away" from my crazy Bangkok life a few nights ago, and, as I have in the past, I chose [b]to stay[/b] at Livingstones's Lodge.

IMO, it is a nice hotel. The deluxe room is spacious, the bed is especially comfortable (unlike most in Asia), the breakfast large and tasty, and the staff extremely friendly. While there, I enjoyed a Thai massage right across the street at Cefle (300 baht/2hr), a cooling swim in the pool, a nice conversation with the owner, drinks and a tasty dinner in the Sports Bar, and a few rounds of pool with a beautiful bar hostess. I then retired early solo (the primary reason for being there). My bill for the hotel room w/breakfast, dinner, a couple of drinks, and a lady drink totaled just under 3940 baht (approx. $123us, incl. tax & service).

There are probably 1500+ hotels in Bangkok and I've stayed in more than a few of them while passing through on my way to other places in Asia. I now live here and I chose to stay at LL because I knew it would fit my needs, and I wanted a good non-Thai meal.

I especially like Livingstone's Lodge because it is small, relaxed, quiet, friendly, and well-located in a good part of Bangkok. Sure, you can find something a little closer to some of the action, a lot newer and flashier, and probably a bit cheaper to fit a budget; however, you will not find a place where you are treated as well by the staff, and also feels like [i]home.[/i]

I've been eating at the LL restaurant for over three years, and have stayed there on and off for over two years. Yes, (for [i]The Pro[/i]), I am treated like a "friend," and that's just one more reason I like it.

[QUOTE=The Pro]The constant name dropping by a few "friends" of LL is directly for this reason, to market the place and attempt to get newbies to go there.[/QUOTE]

There's nothing wrong with being a Cheap Charlie. No need to bash LL, either.

Livingstone's is not a ripoff. You pay a small premium for staying there. In exchange, you get comfort and safety.

I've stayed at LL and enjoyed it. I've also spent less to stay elsewhere and visit with freelancers from the Biergarten.

Nothing wrong with either approach! Go for your own comfort level.

[QUOTE=The Pro]The constant name dropping by a few "friends" of LL is directly for this reason, to market the place and attempt to get newbies to go there.

IMO, its overpriced, not very well located for lower Sukhumvit, low standard of quality of rooms. Service is good but sadly the other lagging factors make it overall "overpriced".

But hey, the choice is yours.[/QUOTE]I really do not understand your reason for knocking the place all the time. I stayed there for my first visit and had a great time. I had information from the team there that ensured I had a fantastic trip. The restaurant was first class the ladies were great, fair and honest. The local info I got from the management team really helped me to enjoy subsequent visits.

Do I stay there every time NO. But not because it is bad place, I just choose to move around.

For a newbie I would always reccomend the place. I will never forget how much help I got and how much it helped me enjoy my time.

The quality of the rooms is fine and clean with fresh clean sheets. The only noise was that of others enjoying life and I only heard thier noise when I was taking a breather.

DO NOT just knock LL. If you have a better suggestion tell us!

Boater Boy

Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it.

I would say the rooms are overpriced for what they are and what you get. The Sports Bar is, IMO, a rip off in terms of pricing.

Soi 33 is not an ideal location by any means, it can be a complete nightmare to get a taxi in or out of, and if you are short on time for the airport you might run into some really nasty traffic jams at certain times of the day.

Soi 33 itself is ok, but I prefer to be nearer to the lower Sukunmvit area. If you like being tucked up there in Soi 33 then thats your choice.

To quote some of your words "Sure, you can find something a little closer to some of the action, a lot newer and flashier, and probably a bit cheaper to fit a budget".

Yes, for sure you can get newer, nicer, flashier and closer to the action.

As for the "home" feeling. If you want to feel "at home" then go stay with your wife/mum. I certainly do not need a homely feel, I want a functioning room where lots of action is going to take place. Stuff you would not be doing at "home".

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]I needed a place to "get away" from my crazy Bangkok life a few nights ago, and, as I have in the past, I chose [b]to stay[/b] at Livingstones's Lodge.

IMO, it is a nice hotel. The deluxe room is spacious, the bed is especially comfortable (unlike most in Asia), the breakfast large and tasty, and the staff extremely friendly. While there, I enjoyed a Thai massage right across the street at Cefle (300 baht/2hr), a cooling swim in the pool, a nice conversation with the owner, drinks and a tasty dinner in the Sports Bar, and a few rounds of pool with a beautiful bar hostess. I then retired early solo (the primary reason for being there). My bill for the hotel room w/breakfast, dinner, a couple of drinks, and a lady drink totaled just under 3940 baht (approx. $123us, incl. tax & service).

There are probably 1500+ hotels in Bangkok and I've stayed in more than a few of them while passing through on my way to other places in Asia. I now live here and I chose to stay at LL because I knew it would fit my needs, and I wanted a good non-Thai meal.

I especially like Livingstone's Lodge because it is small, relaxed, quiet, friendly, and well-located in a good part of Bangkok. Sure, you can find something a little closer to some of the action, a lot newer and flashier, and probably a bit cheaper to fit a budget; however, you will not find a place where you are treated as well by the staff, and also feels like [i]home.[/i]

I've been eating at the LL restaurant for over three years, and have stayed there on and off for over two years. Yes, (for [i]The Pro[/i]), I am treated like a "friend," and that's just one more reason I like it.[/QUOTE]

Guys,

Our Sports Lounge has normal prices for Soi 33, drinks are most likely cheaper here than in the Gogo Bars in Nana or Cowboy. As for the bar fines - that's policy, and they will stay on the level where they are now.

Certainly NOBODY is ripped off here at Livingstone's!

We cannot do it right for everybody. And everybody is entitled to his own opinion. We will stick with our concept, there are enough customers out there who like it.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

S Sukhumvit Suites

1) Is this place GF? I couldn't find out by searching this forum. I will be traveling with a person who can't walk far distances and wold appreciate any suggestions for hotels under $90-$100 within walking distance of Soi Cowboy. Any other hotel suggestions within a very easy walk to Cowboy would be appreciated.

2) Can anybody suggest a 2 Bedroom hotel/serviced apt near Nana or Cowboy. I've stayed at Grand Pres Tower 3 and Omni on Soi Nana but would like to try something different this trip.

Thanks for any info.

[QUOTE=The Pro]Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it.[/QUOTE]Yes, all ISGers have opinions. It's just some are more objective, positive, and provide useful information about hotels like Livingstone's Lodge. And, for unknown reasons some others like to whine a lot, have unknown agendas, and/or have rusty axes to grind. Just a microcosm of life, really.

[QUOTE]I would say the rooms are overpriced for what they are and what you get. The Sports Bar is, IMO, a rip off in terms of pricing.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say that, and I've stayed at a lot of other BKK hotels, eat at restaurants, and visit massage parlors and go-go bars on a regular basis. Compared with most hotels, the peripheral expenses at LL are reasonably priced. Every woman I've gone with from the Sports Bar has been very nice.

[QUOTE]Soi 33 is not an ideal location by any means, it can be a complete nightmare to get a taxi in or out of, and if you are short on time for the airport you might run into some really nasty traffic jams at certain times of the day.[/QUOTE]You could say this about almost every soi in Bangkok at rush hour. Besides, a [i]smart traveler[/i] always leaves plenty of time to get to the airport in this day and age.

[QUOTE]Soi 33 itself is ok, but I prefer to be nearer to the lower Sukunmvit area. If you like being tucked up there in Soi 33 then thats your choice.[/QUOTE]I prefer not to stay on Lower Sukhumvit as I find that there are way too many [i]land sharks[/i] of various species always cruising the waters. I like Soi 33 because there are many good places to eat, have a massage, or get special services nearby. It's got an easy going feeling with plenty of flash. You are also close to Sois 22 & 24, the Emporium, and some good bars and restaurants on Sukhumvit Rd.

You can always hop on the BTS to Lower Suk at night, have a little fun at Nana or wherever, snag a filly for a night of fun, then catch a taxi back to Soi 33 with no problem whatsoever. It's an even easier walk to Soi Cowboy from LL as it only takes about 10 minutes, and then a taxi back takes less than five minutes.

[QUOTE]To quote some of your words "Sure, you can find something a little closer to some of the action, a lot newer and flashier, and probably a bit cheaper to fit a budget". Yes, for sure you can get newer, nicer, flashier and closer to the action.[/QUOTE]Good, we agree on something. But why follow all the sheep? Flashy, nice and new are often delivered cold, sterile and lifeless.

[QUOTE]As for the "home" feeling. If you want to feel "at home" then go stay with your wife/mum. I certainly do not need a homely feel, I want a functioning room where lots of action is going to take place. Stuff you would not be doing at "home".[/QUOTE]TP, it sounds like you never get any action at "home." Too busy with the ladies of the night maybe?

LL's rooms are fine for taking one or more girls back "home" to play. The beds have just the right amount of [i]cushion for the pushin'.[/i] The showers are big enough for three, the sheets are soft, and extra towels are readily available. All the women I've brought there really like it and have told me so.

I like to stay at places where, especially in chaotic Bangkok, I feel [i]relaxed and welcome.[/i] Livingstone's Lodge is this type of place.

I don't usually respond to this type of writing but I felt the urge today. I have been coming to bangkok for 3 years now and each time I have stayed at LL. I have enjoy the location with the Emporium, BTS, Soi Cowboy, amd many services in and around soi 33. Easy to Nana , lower soi's , siam paragon and many other places. What more do I need.

The people that work at LL have gotten to know me and I and they enjoy each others company. The food is good, the rooms are clean, and the bed fits well when by myself or with company. I have found the sports bar more than acceptable and feel comfortable with those that work there.
I intend to return again next year on my yearly vacation to Asia. I will stay at LL again. Is it for everybody, probibly not. But for me it is the quiet little corner in a busy city.

[QUOTE=The Pro]Come on Giotto, tell everyone what the bar fines are, why are you shy ? They can then compare your price to other places and see if the levels are a rip off by comparison.

So what are the SL bar fines ?[/QUOTE]Come on, The Pro,

The bar fines of Livingstone's Lodge were mentioned many times already. They are THB 1,500.00 before 11 pm, THB 1,000.00 afterwards and THB 700.00 after 1 am.

Now - just trying to follow your strange way of thinking - if the prices are higher than in other places - does that automatically mean that we rip off customers? I just read a report about Pegasus Club, bar fine THB 3,000.00 - do they rip off, too?

Bullshit!

Just go ahead with your agenda against Annie's and Livingstone's - everybody will be greatful. You really add value to the forum.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

[QUOTE=The Pro]Come on Giotto, tell everyone what the bar fines are, why are you shy ? They can then compare your price to other places and see if the levels are a rip off by comparison.

So what are the SL bar fines ?[/QUOTE]If you are only interested in "how much" then I am sure you can find cheaper.

Why not go to the Lodge check out the facilities in the SL. The quality and friendliness of the ladies. The security you feel.

Now when you have done that go and find somewhere better. Then next year post your suggestions, DO NOT just critisise. Add some value!!

I have had some pretty scary experiences in other bars, never once felt anything like worried at LL.

BB

[QUOTE=The Pro]...
I would say the rooms are overpriced for what they are and what you get. The Sports Bar is, IMO, a rip off in terms of pricing.

Soi 33 is not an ideal location by any means, it can be a complete nightmare to get a taxi in or out of, and if you are short on time for the airport you might run into some really nasty traffic jams at certain times of the day.

Soi 33 itself is ok, but I prefer to be nearer to the lower Sukunmvit area. If you like being tucked up there in Soi 33 then thats your choice.

To quote some of your words "Sure, you can find something a little closer to some of the action, a lot newer and flashier, and probably a bit cheaper to fit a budget".

Yes, for sure you can get newer, nicer, flashier and closer to the action.

As for the "home" feeling. If you want to feel "at home" then go stay with your wife/mum. I certainly do not need a homely feel, I want a functioning room where lots of action is going to take place. Stuff you would not be doing at "home".[/QUOTE]I am just in the mood to write a bit here in the forum. For some months now my motivation level to do so is low, and besides other reasons this stupid reports like the quoted one are leading to this demotivation - I don't care much any more. Not really good, but true.

The first time I came to Bangkok I stayed in Rembrandt Hotel. Why? It was a bit away from the action of Soi Nana and Soi Cowboy. But not too far away. Same like Livingstone's today. That time the road (Soi 20) was not even paved, and I had no idea that Soi 33 was existing.

The traffic situation was - a catastrophe! Besides the fact that in front of the hotel you could not get any taxis Sukhumvit road was not really a road - it was a giant parking lot. And - there was no Skytrain at all.

Soi 33 today - 10 min. to walk to Soi Cowboy. I walk in 20 min. to Soi Nana (Soi 4) . 2 Skytrain stations, 10 min. from Soi 33 to Soi Nana using the Skytrain. If you return in the night from Soi Nana you cross Sukhumvit Road and take a taxi - 5 min., THB 45 (USD 1.5) - and you are at Livingstone's Lodge.

To get to the airport from Soi 33 - I going to the airport at least twice a month, usually more often. If you don't have any support (eg. from the hotel) - it depends on the driver, how long it lasts. If he tries to get to Sukhumvit Soi 1 it can last - long. If he knows the small roads and short cuts - I was going to the airport a few weeks ago, monday morning rush hour - 35 min.

It does not matter whether you are in Soi 33 or in the lower Sukhumvit area - if you are short on time for the airport you might be lost. But - a taxi driver who knows Bangkok will get you there in time.

Closer to the action: I came to Bangkok, and I discovered the action. The action is everywhere. It is in the lower Sukhumvit as well as in Soi 33. The area in the lower Sukhumvit is well known for its Gogo Bars, the area around Soi 33 / Soi 26 is well known for oil massage parlours. What action are we talking about?

Soi 33 is more expensive. Yep! The villa of the Prime Minister is 700 m away from Livingstone's, Soi 31. This area is different. Some people might not fit in here. But the Prime Minister does not come too many times to Livingstone's. So - there is no reason to worry :) !

Guys, go to the places you like. Go to Gogo Bars, if you want to select the perfect body from the pole. Go to massage parlours if you want the most experienced girls which technically know everything about the functionality of a man. Go to Soi 33 if you like hostess bars and GFE. Go to Spasso, CM2, Q-Bar etc. if you are looking for semi-professionals. Go to the mens clubs if you like exclusivity. Do what you like!

Stay in hotels in the lower Sukhumvit area if you only need a room to sleep. Stay in the guesthouses around Kaosarn Road if you are dealing with a low budget. Stay in The Orientals if you need a butler following you every single step you make in the hotel. Stay in Livingstone's if you like a resort-style Boutique Hotel in the center of Bangkok, if you like space, if you like ambience around a swimming pool, if you like style, if you like to have access to people you can talk to ...

Don't come here if the only thing in your mind is sex, if you want to get drunk and party 24 hours a day (Pattaya style entertainment). Then - Livingstone's is NOT the right place for you. Please - take The Pro's advice seriously - in this case it is better for you to stay somewhere in the lower Sukhumvit Area [alternatively in The Pro's apartment :)]. Orgies in the pool - no way! You try it once - and you will leave the next day. Believe me! I will personally make sure that you leave.

Our cheapest "overpriced" room here at Livingstone's is THB 1,800.00 ++ . If you get ISG discount you will not pay more than THB 1,500.00 ++ . There are higher room categories - rooms with Jacuzzis, rooms with Double Jacuzzis. If you need any further details about this rooms - PM to The Pro. He knows it all. He checked every room! He will give you the best advice you can get.

Btw., I am here, at Livingstone's Lodge in Soi 33. I am sitting on my desk, outside, close to the swimming pool, and today I have emptied some bottles of red wine. A good customer left this night, and we had a small party going on here. One of you. ISG reader. - He will be back soon.

I am not - in the lower Sukhumvit area. And - to be honest - I don't want to be there. I own only one hotel [--> enough trouble already]. But - there are still so many ISG readers visiting me, staying in Majestics Suites or somewhere down there "closer to the action" ... and they ask me for advice. And - if my time is not restricted for some reasons - I will sit down with all you guys, and I will even invite you for a coffee. I will tell you what I know about Bangkok/Thailand, and I will try to answer your questions. I get lots of PMs every single day - and I reply to every single PM, giving advice as good as I can. I am - the rip-off devil!

For that - there is definitely no reason for any rookie to stay here at Livingstone's in our "overpriced" rooms. Please contact The Pro for reasonable hotel recommendations. You can get my advice then - via PM.

Please remember: I am the guy who rips off customers! I am the guy who misuses this forum to attract rookies to come to Livingstone's, and then this rookies get ripped off.

I am the devil! Don't ever come here!


Giotto [drunk]
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

PS: Fuck you, The Pro!

Bottle of wine or not, G, that was a good post.

"The Pro" has an inflated opinion of his own opinion.

As Dirty Harry said...

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Nothing I hate worse than whiny, self-important trolls.

I think the next time I come to BKK, I'm going to stay at Livingstone Lodge.

MadVic

PS: I will not, however, try any of those funky African meals at the steakhouse!! LOL

[QUOTE=Giotto]PS: Fuck you, The Pro![/QUOTE]
Very well stated. ^

Oh, and the rest of the post was quite poignant as well!

Hello,

Only found comments in the forum about Omni Tower Hotel from the year 2006.

The website looks ok [url]http://www.omnibangkok.com[/url]

What are your experiences in 2009 and 2010?

Thank you