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[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1260939]LOL. Is this a serious gameplan for punters with a GF, wife or other SO?
Thankfully I don't have anything to worry about in that regard.
Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Hehehe, I was just answering a silly question with a silly answer, although you would be surprised how many women do not like to make love in bright light and prefer it to be more dark.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1261051]Hehehe, I was just answering a silly question with a silly answer, although you would be surprised how many women do not like to make love in bright light and prefer it to be more dark.[/QUOTE]A lot of us fat, bald, ugly guys with mini prongs as well.
[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha;1261045]How you going to get these fatty acid molecules in to male urethra, where mos of pathogenic viral and bacterial load attaches and causes systematic infections, condoms are the only way of preventing STIS[/QUOTE]That's an interesting reply re the urethra. I came across a similar idea to the coconut oil the other day:
[QUOTE=]look up Barrier Cream. Here is what I use before seeing SP's (BBBJ, or condom FS)
[url]http://www.dermadefense.com/[/url]
[url]http://terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?376070-Preventive-dosing-against-STIs-and-HIV-prophelaxis[/url][/QUOTE]Could something like these be useful against STDs like Herpes, which can be acquired via skin to skin contact?
Especially for the guys with GFs / wives who don't want to get caught with their pants down, so to speak;
But as for condoms, even without failure they don't offer complete protection against various STIs, and are only one of a number of ways of preventing them, besides the bodies natural defence systems.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_disease[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoms[/url]
[QUOTE=David_33;1261060]A lot of us fat, bald, ugly guys with mini prongs as well.[/QUOTE]Those do it in the dark AND under the covers.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1260536]What happens if you catch herpes with visible sores & your GF sees those?[/QUOTE]I hope not to catch this. Since I have never had any cold sores (or herpes sores) , I am guessing that either I may be immune to it, have higher resistance to it than most, or perhaps its harder to catch than some seem to think. I am unsure which reason is the most relevant. I am scared more by Chlamydia having already sampled that one
No reason to be scared of Chlamydia, it's easily treated.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1261237]I may be immune to it, have higher resistance to it than most[/QUOTE]No, you may be suppressing it better, part of the % of virus carriers who are asymptomatic, remain below threshhold for virus to manifest. Wait a bit and see what comes out
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1261242]No reason to be scared of Chlamydia, it's easily treated.[/QUOTE]If I had no GF, then yes, no big deal. its easily treated once you know you have got it. Yeh, Syphilus is much more scary but seems less prevalent. I don't want to be like the mate who got Gonor. in his first week here recently and wasn't even acting like a stud. That was quick work indeed and deserves a clap (sorry couldn't resist the bad pun).
I think its well worth pointing out that married guys want to take some precautions. I do. Fucking the GF is an incredibly great feeling and I never get bored with doing her (she is pretty and hot body too, so I still love to look at her naked), its just that us sex addicts never get enough frequency from a normal GF after several years. The mongering is just filling in gaps, or I sometimes go on a secret several day spree to try to get it out of the system for a bit. Never seems to be totally successful, but I can go for weeks without a fuck when in the wrong country.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1261237]I hope not to catch this. Since I have never had any cold sores (or herpes sores) , I am guessing that either I may be immune to it, have higher resistance to it than most, or perhaps its harder to catch than some seem to think. I am unsure which reason is the most relevant. I am scared more by Chlamydia having already sampled that one[/QUOTE]More scared of Chlamydia than Herpes? HUH? You can get rid of Chlam in a few days. Did you sleep through your 6th grade sex ed?
Herpes will only last for your entire life. When you get a breakout which for some is several times a year, you have numerous open sores on your cock for 7 to 10 days. Duh, which sounds better?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1261237]I hope not to catch this. Since I have never had any cold sores (or herpes sores) , I am guessing that either I may be immune to it, have higher resistance to it than most, or perhaps its harder to catch than some seem to think. I am unsure which reason is the most relevant. I am scared more by Chlamydia having already sampled that one[/QUOTE]Is it even possible to be immune to Herpes? I've never heard of this before.
Chlamydia is nothing. Just take one gram of Zithromax (two 500mg pills) and you'll be good within a few days.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1261279]More scared of Chlamydia than Herpes? HUH? You can get rid of Chlam in a few days. Did you sleep through your 6th grade sex ed?
Herpes will only last for your entire life. When you get a breakout which for some is several times a year, you have numerous open sores on your cock for 7 to 10 days. Duh, which sounds better?[/QUOTE]Luvpus,
You don't seem to understand that I believe, if haven't ever had a cold sore, despite kissing so many girls that have had them, then I believe I am extremely unlikely to ever get one. I am not scared of them anymore. I don't fully understand them but am aware I am just not getting them.
So for everything its a combination equation of the seriousness of the problem and the risk of getting it.
I do understand Chlamydia is not serious to my health but may have serious implications if my GF should catch it from me too. I have had it twice already long time ago. Its very very easy to catch, even using condoms. Can be transferred even by fingers. So it is the extreme ease of getting it that concerns me and the family implications.
Herpes is not so easy to catch, and I take precautions as far as possible. I don't believe I am at all likely to get it. The chances of me getting AIDS is much lower still. I am not in major risk categories. Maybe 1 in million. So not a big worry.
I am also not that scared of great white sharks, purely because the risk is so small.
Look, I am willing to do some research to find out a bit more about Herpes, since I am not expert, and really know the exact risks of getting it. Okay I have heard about the results of having it already. Its not deadly. Although I have previously been tested for genital Herpes, apparently tests are not always that conclusive so many people that have it, may not even know they have it. So its not that bad for many. It sounds like having a bad pimple that lasts longer. Its not that easy for a guy to catch from a girl. Genital Herpes HSV-2 is actually considered less dangerous than Oral Herpes HSV-1. [URL=http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html]Comparison click here[/URL]
"Transmission risk from infected female to male is approximately 4–5% annually. Anti-viral therapy can reduce this risk by 50%." This I found in wikipedia for monogamous couples not using condoms. Maybe husbands don't get that much sex? :D So you can imagine the risk from a single sex session with a girl (unknown to be infected or not and no obvious breakouts) and using condoms is getting extremely low. Then it has to be multiplied by mongering frequency.
I also read that 1 in 8 Australians have genital Herpes. A high percentage of these are females because females catch it more easily. 80% are unaware they have it. I guess this is consistent with some people having had a large number of sexual partners without condom use. I haven't.
I know someone wanting to get an STD will manage to get Chlamydia or Gonorrhea far more quickly. Those seem to be the easiest. Syphilus seems to be less prevalent but more dangerous.
P.S. During my 7th grade sex-Ed they only mentioned the gloom and doom from Syphilus, Gonorrhea, NSU and that's about it. Herpes never got mentioned. I probably only first heard of Herpes when about 18 to 20 years old. I might be older than some forum members. It was a big deal for a few years, mainly due to lack of a complete cure, before the hype faded away. Once HIV came on the scene, Herpes appeared to be largely relegated back to get very little further publicity. After all its only like cold sores and not not deadly. How useful was school sex-Ed? I only ever received about 2 hours worth, and it was not that useful, other than to be aware STDs exist.
All STD are immunity specific. It means some people will never get infected because of specific gene. It is just like the whole world could be getting the flu but you do not.
1. HIV- Once dreadred disease is now can be controlled for life time by constant checking and taking modern medicine. However there are different strains. Some are virulent and people die of it.
You do not have to be in the risk category to get it. Only in western countries it is mostly spread by homosexuals and intravenous drug abusers. But in Africa and Asia it is spread through heterosexuals as well.
Research shows higher incidence of transmission if you have sex with somebody who is showing full blown AIDS caused by HIV virus. Because the Viral load is very high.
All diseases have a highly infective stage including common cold. If you happen to kiss at that stage chances are higher you get the cold. Once again depends on your immunity.
People with AIDS have symptoms like looking thin and sickly. Africans initially called it slim disease. They tend to have elevated body temperature all the time, get tired easily and have other infections.
Like runny nose, patches on the skin etc.
2. Syphilis- They call it silent disease. Mainly because of no symptoms or minimal symptoms. Once exposed can take many years to get serious complications.
Usually if you take a course of antibiotics it will clear it without you knowing if you were infected.
Very hard to tell if the girl is infected. Condom will definitely protect.
3. Gonorrea and chlamydia- It seems both go hand in hand. Symptoms usually appear quickly. Pain on urination, purulent discharge associteed with general ill feeling.
In girls you can always make out. Smelly pussy is a dead giveaway. Course of antibiotics will clear it.
4. Genital herpes- Most people are exposed to it one way or another. Only few people get outbreaks where it is uncomfortable. No known cure. But symptoms last only a few days.
5. Genital warts- Usually infected having rough sex with girls having warts. Once again most people are exposed to the virus but only few people show warts.
Compared to the sexual encounters happening all over the world life threatening situations are rare. Do not see people dying enmasse.
If you are in your sixties or seventies you will die by other things than STD.
I don't believe everything I read in the media, specially if it comes from corrupt goverments.
Reading a lot of scentific debate, its clear that some of these things about AIS in particular are not as well understood as what some claim.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1261672]However there are different strains. Some are virulent and people die of it.[/QUOTE]Do you know how difficult it is to see the HIV virus, and how difficult it is to isolate? Its only a theory that there are multiple strains to try to explain baffling things.
[QUOTE]You do not have to be in the risk category to get it. Only in western countries it is mostly spread by homosexuals and intravenous drug abusers. But in Africa and Asia it is spread through heterosexuals as well.[/QUOTE]Why is that? Some say Africa must have a different strain that never goes to western countries. Others says that Africans get it much more easily because they lack basic nutrition and basic health care.
[QUOTE]All diseases have a highly infective stage including common cold. If you happen to kiss at that stage chances are higher you get the cold. Once again depends on your immunity.[/QUOTE]I have read that its the other person's breathe, hands, or worse still sneeze, that is much more dangerous than their saliva. You don't have to kiss to catch it.
[QUOTE]People with AIDS have symptoms like looking thin and sickly. Africans initially called it slim disease. They tend to have elevated body temperature all the time, get tired easily and have other infections.[/QUOTE]Maybe some cases of AIDS are actually just malnutrition or "slim disease". If should test postive for HIV (an unreliable test) then it will be called AIDS, otherwise its called malnutrition, or some other thing that is believed to weaken the immune system, like Syphilus for example. Of course most Africans can't afford HIV tests, so its often called AIDS anyway. Malnutrition and lack of suitable drinking water seems to be the most fatal "disease" in Africa. The land is barren, the climate is bad, the goverments are corrupt, etc. A huge percentage test positive to HIV. Its probably not worth worrying about that. Its not the main cause of death. Is HIV a new disease that is so widespread because they are all rampant fuckers with no protection, or would all these people have tested HIV + just the same centuries ago.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1262158]Its only a theory that there are multiple strains to try to explain baffling things.[/QUOTE]Mmmm, in science a "theory" is actually the best you can get (unless you are a mathematician, then you can have "laws") , as in "theory of evolution". A "theory of HIV" means that there is no reliable information against it. 'Nuff said. Can we now stop this silly discussion which is really getting out of hand and flies in the face of established scientific facts?
Whether you have covered sex or not and how big or small are the risks you take, is for everyone to decide himself. There are nasty bugs out in the real world, but hey, it is your life you may be wasting.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1262167]Mmmm, in science a "theory" is actually the best you can get (unless you are a mathematician, then you can have "laws") , as in "theory of evolution". A "theory of HIV" means that there is no reliable information against it. 'Nuff said. Can we now stop this silly discussion which is really getting out of hand and flies in the face of established scientific facts?
Whether you have covered sex or not and how big or small are the risks you take, is for everyone to decide himself. There are nasty bugs out in the real world, but hey, it is your life you may be wasting.[/QUOTE]Well said. There is a lot of dangerous nonsense out there about HIV / AIDS (and many other things) , but it is only prudent to assume that the vast majority of scientific evidence is probably correct.