Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]For beach cities, Rio de Janerio, Havana, Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco, and arguably other Mexican and Cuban cities are much, much more beautiful and interesting IMHO and have plenty of P4P.[/QUOTE]
Rio de Janeiro, yes: better beaches, better beach life, plenty of P4P. Havana? Great colonial city, yes, but beach life? P4P, yes, but a pain in the ass (well, at least it was while I was there in 1998). Acapulco? Not bad, but sky-high P4P, and I hope nobody seriously compares Mexican women to Colombian ones (P4P or not). Puerto Vallarta: don't know, but I wouldn't hold my breath in terms of P4P (I live in Mexico, after all).

Just trying to be fair to Cartagena. IMHO, it's a worthy alternative destination after Rio, maybe if only to get a different taste. Something that I couldn't say about Mexico, P4P-wise.

[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]I think I'm going to stand by the ATM complaint. From Laguito it's about a 20 to 30 mintue walk to an ATM in Boca Grande round trip which in my book is pretty inconvinient (though perhaps maditory walking is good for the health). The only ATM I can find in Laguito is the one near the frozen yogurt place which is down most of the time.[/QUOTE]
As Tom correctly mentioned, there are TONS of ATMs in Boca Grande, and I have never had a problem with any of them. Come to think of it, there are way more working ATMs in Cartagena than in Rio de Janeiro, even in Copacabana. I have yet to find a working one in Centro Rio, while finding one in downtown Cartagena has never been a problem for me.

EA

hello everyone,

first, thanks for cachorro for his insights into my questions. i´ve met many people and starting to learn the ropes so to speak. after we left off, i then went to other casas that night. (the casa i mensioned in my last post was casa morino btw). i also visited ldv again and got the blondie from medellin. since i had two other girls that night it took me a little while to finish. but 10 minutes, come on. she started saying stuff like i need to finish. i swear, only 10 minutes! i paid her the 150k and never again.

next night i hired another cab driver for 20k an hour. he was a cool guy that had a cd player in his taxi and played michael jackson the whole time. nothing like driving down a road in cartagena with thriller blasting in the background. at about 8pm our first stop was pleyboy. it was dead. only one girl there that was a 6. we then went to casa lavagante which is right next door. there was a few girls there, and some birthday party for an italian. i got a nice girl named patricia (not her real name as i found out). nice 19 year old girl. i paid 60k for the house and 80k for her. she gave me the best bbbj i´ve ever had so i ended up giving her 100k. since i was looking for a chica to travel with, i got her number and invited her to spend the day with me the following day, then go to the resort cocolisco. i told her i´d call at 12:30 the next day.

the taxi guy and me then went to casa international. again, not many if any guys, and about 7 or 8 girls. we sit at a table and a nearby girl catches my eye. i buy her a beer and we talk for awhile. it is 50k for the house and we negotiate a price. she wanted 80k and i said 60k. she said 80k. i told her she is supposed to say 70k next. she wouldn´t budge and i told the driver that we need to leave after this beer and she gave in. the price doesn´t matter to me too much, i just want these girls to be flexible. so after a few drinks we head up to the room. again, a great bbbj. unfortunately, she has had a child so her body isn´t up to speed. i give her a 7.5. at the end of the session, she must of been in love with me. truth or not, she said i made her orgasm 3 times and i could see the love in her eyes. kind of scary if you ask me. i got her number but i won´t call her up.

the next day i call patricia at 12:30 and she is going to meet me at my apartment at 2. at 3 she finally arrives. we have sex within the first 10 minutes, then go off to get something to eat. we also bought 2 tickets to cocolisco resort at the hilton. a few hours later we come back and go at it again. i thought she was going to stay the whole night, but she ended up leaving because the ¨casa¨ needs her around. dang it, what does it take to get a girl to stay the whole night around here? i paid her the agreed upon 150k for her time.

the next morning she comes over at 7:30 and we´re off to cocoliso. it´s tuesday and cloudy and rainy. during the boat ride over, the last 10 minutes it was pouring and a little chilly. we go snorkling and sit in the sun, blah blah blah. overall, the place wasn´t as good as it seems. a good experience overall, but not sure if i´ll do it again. when i get back home i´ll post some pictures of the resort and my chica. she leaves after we got at it again that night and i´ll probably never talk or see her again.

wednesday. so on my way through bogata, i got the phone number of an american i met at the airport. i would of called him earlier but i lost his number! however, on tuesday i found it while packing for cocolisco. so i call him on wednesday afternoon. turns out it´s his colombian girlfriends phone number. she says he left this morning. she asks is she can come over. i say, sure. an hour later she comes with her two daughters. one is a 9, and another is a gordita 5. we ended up walking to bocagrande and eat dinner. uh oh, they wanted me to pay. bad sign. i paid like a stupid gringo. they end up inviting me back to their house which is, seriously, a 45 minute cab ride into who knows where in cartagena. i´ll have to post those pictures, too. i find out the 22 years old hot daughter has a kid of her own. she goes down to a 8 in my book. we were supposed to go out tonight (thursday) to a club. i figured my chances of sex were low, and she had a kid - she can´t be smoking hot. if i wanted to date a girl with no guarenteed sex, i´d be vacationing in miami! i blew her off and took another option. that wednesday night i ended up going to ldv. it was raining cats and dogs and i got there about 11:30. not many girls or guys there. i found a decent looking girl, probably a 7. we agree on 100k for short term. she was the first girl from ldv that gave me a bbbj. congradulations.

i heard of this cab driver which has university girls that are under his wing so to speak. i took him up on his offer of 200k for a university girl. in 90 minutes he came with a 29 year old girl which was probably a 8. however, i later learned she didn´t have much sexual experience and even didn´t do a bbbj. terrible. i paid her the 200k and figured that was it. later the taxi driver comes to my door and wants his take. this really got me mad. i thought the 200k was all inclusive. i angerly gave him 20k and told him to leave me alone. i´ll tell his friend that introduced me to the service that i apologize, but never again.

today i met another american here and we are going to check out a club called tripletera or something similiar in el centro. apparently it´s similar to ldv. i also heard there is another club called isis (it´s pronounced ysis) that´s similar to ldv in el centro. i only have 2 more days so not sure if i´ll get to visit or not. i´ll let you all know.

junkyard

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hi,,

a couple of excellent reports from junkyard has inspired this longtime lurker to post some contributions on cartagena.

to put my experience in context: i have been to south america (mostly rio, ba, sp, ctg) 7 or 8 times in the last couple of years. i know the score reasonably well. i would place cartegana 2nd in sa in terms of value for money and girl experiences. rio would have to be number one: there are many more options and i dig the br girls. having said that, everytime i go to ctg i've had excellent gfe experiences. they're probably more attainable in ctg than in rio imho.

my modus operandi: i like to get <british style> pissed. therefore, i like the bar scenes. therefore (ii), i like helpeee in rio, newport in ba, neptunes in hong kong and ldv in cartegena. to my mind, ldv is a smaller, well ok much smaller, version of helpee. if you squint, you're slightly pissed and self-delusional, they can both feel like regular clubs where the girls just happen to be particularly friendly.

in term of value for money: ctg beats rio hands down. the chap that posted earlier about rio being equitable was just plain wrong. rio is much more expensive than ctg these days. the price of accommodation is pretty comparable actually, with decent apartments available in both cities for $50 a day, but it's the price of the girls where rio becomes expensive. it's difficult to get helpee girls for less than r200 tln (usually more) which is about gbp60. it's much easier to get a ldv girl for 200k pesos (gbp40) and the experience, so long as you follow the ground rules, tends to be better too. having said that, you could easily argue the lower cost per girl advantage of ctg is offset by the significantly greater number of options in rio (termos, escorts, freelancers, helpee, balcony, meia pataca etc).

overall, i'd recommend a newbie who doesn't speak spanish should go to rio.

now, i have a questions: i've never been to ctg around the xmas period, but i'm thinking of arriving just before new years eve. whats ldv like at that time of year? is la ley seca active around this time (i'll be staying around 2 weeks)? do the girls tend to go home for xmas? any insights much appreciated.

luego

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I leave CTG for MDE during Christmas. The city is packed, and lodging prices are double or triple.

Tom,

I'm thinking of arriving on the 29th. A good time, you think? I could just go to Rio, but can't decide. Is there any La Ley Seca period in CTG at that time?

[QUOTE=Tom 33]I leave CTG for MDE during Christmas. The city is packed, and lodging prices are double or triple.[/QUOTE]

Daytime action: really tough. There is action to be had in Laguito, late afternoon/early evening, but IMHO it's really tough. I should say I'm a pretty shy guy, so for the more brazen of you maybe it's easier, but for me it'd hard work. There's the odd girl around, but it sure aint Rio (Balcony, Meia Pataca) during the day. My favoured daytime activity is to get some casa girls, who certainly aren't used to the gringo action, and invite them around during the day. I had a couple of girls around for 300k. They arrived at 1pm, left at 6-ish. Was lovely. And the casa girls generally are much more appreciative than the LDV girls who, by and large, are waaaaay gringo-tired. I'm certain I could have gotten a cheaper price than 300k but I need to feel the price is right for me as well as for them.

As much as I love LDV, btw, it aint the be-all and end-all. There are a number of other excellent options:

Pleyboy: only been there one. It was pretty decent, I can't remember the price, but I think around 200k for one hour or slightly less. Lots of cute girls, I don't know about the TNL options (which is what I'm most interested in), but I'd say ok value for money for the hourly option considering the high quality of girls.

La Triplaterra/Girro Matti/Candela/Other centro options: I gotta say, I love these places. They're bars, but full of hookers. And Me Love Da Hookers. In these places in Centro you can mostly tell the difference between Colombia and Brazil. There are girls, and they're most certainly pros, but you can pretend (in the self-delusional game we all play with ourseleves) that they're not pros. For a drinker like myself, Giro Matti is ace. Open til 6 or 7, crowded, 90% of the girls hookers, but very few of them hustling for buiness. Perfect for those of us wanting several hours of self-delusional fun.

That's it for now.

Two of us friends visited Cartagena from November 7 thru November 12, 2006, and from November 12th thru 17th at the Medellin Mansion.

Cartagena:

We reached Cartagena at 1:00pm, rented our apartment from Juan Ventura. Juan put us up in Edificio playa mar 802 for the first three days and Playa mar 801 from November 10 thru 12. Due to busy season we had to switch the apartments on November 10, 2006. I recommend 801 cause it has an excellent beach view from balcony and the master bedroom.

In short service provided by Juan Ventura was remarkably good (Two thumbs up).

This trip of mine was sort of no limit money wise. I was in no mood to negotiate as long as i was only doing top class girls. I wanted girl friend experience and in most cases i did get it.

I blew away US$4,000 in 10 days (including my ticket and stay). I dont' even remember how many girls i had in my trip, but i can tell you this that aside from may be 1 or so none of the girls was less than 8.5 in my scale.

Just to give you guys an idea of what i say is 8.5, I am posting a girl from Cartagena which i booked from 1:00 am to 5:00 pm the next day for US$175 (COP 350,000), also i am posting a girl from medellin by the name of Lina from Loutron (she was a knock out and a 9.4 in my scale. I can only give a 10 to Aishwaria Rai (Indian top model/actress).

Recomendations in Cartagena:

Valentina from LDV ( I literally made love to her, just like you would make love to your girl friend for the first time). After my session with her, it was her words "may be i should pay you." I paid her COP 300k for the night.

Pley club in Cartagena is the closest to a Terma setting of Rio de Janeiro. One hour session at the club is 150k and girl for the night including club fees is usually 300k (The price is pretty much set). I recommend that if you
want to have a fun experience in Cartagena, don't miss out on visiting Pley club. They have thailand style shows going on every 20 or 30 mins. If nothing else go check the shows out. Girls are dancing all around you, and at pley club, pretty soon you will have the feeling that you died and went to Heaven.

Cartagena had some good ass night time action, but the action was quite limited to night time. Day time action was some what limited.

[quote=artful]hi,,
to my mind, ldv is a smaller, well ok much smaller, version of helpee.][/quote]
artful, thanks for the excellent report. i hope you had a chance to check out giro matto in el centro. although it doesn't start until late (past 3am), it's a great place to be after chasing after regular girls is over. you'll see a lot of girls from ldv you saw earlier in the nite, but the prices come down and it has more of an atmosphere of a regular club which makes it a lot of fun bringing them back. also, there you are more likely to run into an occasional semipro visiting from out of town (also true of tu candela)

i just returned from the miss colombia week in cartagena. compared to last year, there were a lot fewer people this year...

A quick photo tip: when there is a bright background, use forced flash.

Great Report John!

A question: Which Valentina did you encounter from LDV? (there seems to be about 3) Was she from Medellin, Monteria or Barranquilla?

There is a thread on another web site that warns about a girls from LDV, with the same name.

I encountered a girl with this name in LDV last year that was a less than satisfactory experience. ( I am guessing not the same you met)

Any fotos of her? Or describe her?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jim Nelson]Great Report John!

A question: Which Valentina did you encounter from LDV? (there seems to be about 3) Was she from Medellin, Monteria or Barranquilla?

There is a thread on another web site that warns about a girls from LDV, with the same name.

I encountered a girl with this name in LDV last year that was a less than satisfactory experience. ( I am guessing not the same you met)

Any fotos of her? Or describe her?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Jim Nelson,

The Valentina I had was from Medellin. As per describing her she didn't look no more than 19 years of age. Her tit size was may be a B cup. Young and energetic girl.

HEHE, One of the chics i almost fell in love with. If I wasn't married I would certainly think about her much much more.

Only reason i go mongering around the world is to keep all those good memories in international waters and not to bring them home (LOL).

Regards,

John.

If it is the Valentina from MDE that I know, she likes anything but "making love". She likes it rough and hard. Tall flaca, brown hair butt you can just about hold in one hand......ohhhh the memories.......
Sparky

[QUOTE=Sparkchaser69]If it is the Valentina from MDE that I know, she likes anything but "making love". She likes it rough and hard. Tall flaca, brown hair butt you can just about hold in one hand......ohhhh the memories.......
Sparky[/QUOTE]

lol... funny how thoser are the ones that really get into the memory - have a few memories from various places in the world like that.

[quote]if you are too lazy to walk, you can bus there for 900 pesos.[/quote]
dude, seriously. yes, i know where boca grande is. i have been there countless times now and, yes, i agree it has some atms. no, i am not too "lazy" to walk. i wanted to let people know that getting money can be a bit inconvenient in laguito – and it can be.

i think many people visiting won't like to have to take a cab/bus/walk to boca grade when they find laguito's lonely atm down, either. sometimes people need cash fast (and tourists generally need cash constantly) and drawn out/complicated atm runs in an unfamiliar city, particularly at night, and especially for all those that don't know how to ask for an atm in spanish can be a chore so please chill.

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anyway, in other news...

i went to pley club the other evening. it's a long ride from laguito and i almost didn't believe we had arrived when i saw it from the outside. it didn’t look like the city’s “top” strip club. it looked like a dirty non-descript house with some taxis mulling about outside. it’s actually connected to a ragged hotel-esque structure with a dozen rooms or more where the girls take you for a shag and where i later found out that the visiting girls actually live.

the inside was smallish and very bland save for some flourishes and a couple fancy lights around the bar area. you can see that they made some effort to make it look like a strip club but also that they fell far short of achieving the full effect. loud techno music, smoky, somewhat limited drink selection. there were two strobe lights, one broken, so it was always a bit too dark to see the girls well. the stage itself i have to say was pathetic. it had all the ambiance of a dirty fish tank and the single poll was too short for any proper acrobatics. beers were 7,000 cop and there was no cover. there was no high pressure lady drink stuff here either so it was pretty tranquil on that front. girls didn’t pressure you unless you wanted them to. this is not a rip off joint (save for a couple hustlers outside hoping to put the bite on you for this or that as you try to arrange a taxi back home).

i went on a saturday at about 1:00 am and there were about 30 girls and 30 guys there, all colombian. the girls mainly lined the perimeters sitting in chairs or dancing by themselves waiting for an invitation while the guys occupied the tables around the stage. all girls cost the same 150,000 cop for an in-house shag and 300,000 to leave with you. you actually pay at the bar and they register the girl and the sum in a big book. the girls were from 5 to 7 i’d say. i was planning on taking one out, but i didn’t see anyone worth taking out, so i resolved to shag as many girls as i could in-house until i could shag no more. all things considered, the ldv had better looking girls.

viewing it through the lens of a strip club (and it may really be more of a brothel/bar where a bit of stripping takes place that a real strip club), there were some odd characteristics of this “strip club”. first, none (or almost none) of the girls were wearing hot stripper clothes. they were mainly in jeans or dresses not different what you might find at the ldv or even on the street. when i go to a strip club, i want to see thongs, and thigh-highs and spandex and tits and asses undulating at every turn. you really get very little of this at pley club. second, it seems like there was an inordinately long period between dancers, like 10 or 15 minutes. ok, this gives people an opportunity to dance and mingle i suppose, but personally i’d rather see wall to wall stripping. a real oddity was that immediately after the girl’s show (and they do strip to the nude) is that a guy jumps up on stage and wraps the girl in a robe that looks like it had been lifted from sugar ray leonard’s locker room circa 1980. what’s odd isn’t the robe but the urgency with which he jumps on stage and wraps the dancer with it as if she were his wife and everyone else where some ill mannered neighbor that had just barged into their bedroom uninvited as she was getting out of the shower. personally, i’d encourage the girls to walk around nude as much as possible. i’m sure management would have more to write in that big book of theirs if they did.

anyway, i was getting on with various girls and especially enjoying two blond paisas (paisa is what they call girls from medellín apparently). i enjoyed pretending i heard them say payasa (which means clown), then pretending like i didn’t understand their explanation and then asking them where their red nose was or if it took a long time to learn how to juggle.

i had just left the room adjacent to the entrance after shagging one of them to observe all the lights on and a bunch of military standing around checking ids. word to the wise—don’t mess with **** girls. the military it turns out where there checking for **** girls and if that cute blonde i had just shagged had turned out to be 16, i’m not sure it would have been an especially good evening. i got the feeling that that is not the sort of offense that one can slip them $20 to forget about and felt a bit nervous given the stone looks on their faces. i guess everyone passed inspection as they left about 15 minutes later without any incident at which point the lights went off and the music started again.

it was an ok experience, but i’m still missing the sort of insane shapes you see in brazil and mexico where the girls in the top places look like the exaggeratedly sexy women you see in comic books.

in sum, pley club is so so, ldv has better quality and cart i still find lacking from my perspective. i think the regular non-pro discos are where you’ll find the best looking women in cartagena imho but you have to be smooth and speak spanish to take advantage.

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[quote]The chap that posted earlier about Rio being equitable was just plain wrong.[/quote]I'm guessing I'd be the afrementioned chap or if not I think "plain wrong" is a bit bold. One, including myself, really shouldn't overgeneralize about prices. I notice lots of debates over prices on this board (and I see dudes getting into it over like $20 differences) which is pointless becuase a woman in these situations is really not a commodity and there are so many variables that can influence what she asks for and what you agree to pay that guys spouting different rates can both be correct. In Mexico, for example, prices vary from $10 USD for 20 mintue shag with a skanky Boys Town puta to $1,000 USD for a couple hours with an elite model in Mexico City. I've sampled both.

If you go to Rio during Carnival or high season prices will be very high becuase there are too many dudes there willing to pay anything. And why not, this is their big chance. The law of supply and demand. You'll find many girls travel to Rio from all over Brazil and really a lot of Brazilian girls working in Europe come back to work this season. I lived in Rio for a year and found prices were generally reasonable at Help and even better in other places, better than what I experienced in my brief sample at LDV (though I admit I don't really like to bargin and again I'm sure you can do better). I'm sure you could find some $20 USD nookie here in Cart as well if you really worked it. You can get hot girls in Rio for as little as $10 or $20 USD in certian places. I don't even want to mention Belo Horizonte which has a large complex of shabby hotles near the Rodoviária where you can get a decent girl, I kid you not, for as little as $5 USD. In Rio the quantity and variety is so, so much greater than Cartagena that it's not even comprable really. I'm sure any dude that wants to truck it to Vila Mimosa in Rio can find girls they find totally hot for $10 or $20 bucks (Vila Mimosa is NOT recomended for non-Portuguese speakers or uptight people becuase it's really shady and really rowdy.)

I agree some girls at Help will try on very high prices and there are some girls there so beautiful that you can't resist. I guess one's communication and appearance can also be a big factor as well as your intentions. I think a girl is likely to quote high for guys they find unattractive, disagreable, who can't speak the language or who wants to spend all night plugging her in the ass (or of course those who accept the first price that sails out of a girl's mouth and doesn't bargain). If you're all of these things expect to pay top dollar. Most girls would rather go party and have fun with some guy she vibes with and is attracted to (or at least some guy that wants a simple quickie around the corner in a love motel) and quote accordingly. If she thinks there is some boyfriend potential she or just digs you she may go for free. I generally prefer the "free" action (save dinner, drinks, taxis, etc) in all of the above places personally. Also, there is just obviosuly large variation from girl to girl as beauty is in the eye of the beholder both in terms of their self opinion and our opinion of them. I guess purists could also mention exchange rates and all that not to mention if that perpetually sick aunt actually gets sick and the family is in need some fast cash. So plug all those variables into your nookie calculator.

Anyway, the rates I quoted are not by government decree, but based on my personal experience. I'm sure other prices mentioned were just as true for their publishers.

One thing is certain though and that is Rio can be hella dangerous. I got into three physical fights of various degrees of severity during my year there there and a friend of mine got mugged at knife point and also got into a pretty bad bar fight with some management that tried to pull a major rip off scam on him and he refused to pay. Two other friends got their drinks spiked and got extremely sick.

Some of the girls in Rio are pure evil. I can't say that to the same degree about girls I met anywhere else, even in the US, Africa or Haiti. Rio is both the best and the worst of places. The Brazilians have a saying (this is a weak paraphrase) about how when God created Brazil instead of giving them earthquakes, hurricanes and natural disasters his punishment was instead to give them Brazilians. The biggest (and possibly only) advantage that Cartagena has over Rio IMO is that Cartagena is safe and Rio is not.

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