[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138032] pole dancers of Sharks.
[/QUOTE]I am lost with that expression. Why exactly are they referred to as Pole dancers?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138032] pole dancers of Sharks.
[/QUOTE]I am lost with that expression. Why exactly are they referred to as Pole dancers?
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I've been a Sharks over Oase guy for 2 years but the ball is now in Sharks' court. Can they sustain the club on tourist traffic if the Germans stop coming? Are they going to let a new group of 19-20 year old Romanian girls have this much impact on their business?
It would help if these Americans and Asians would stop feeding the bears.[/QUOTE]I have the utmost respect for Sharks and their owners. They will manage to turn it around for very sure. I can't believe that Oase should be better than Sharks in the winter time but I guess all those reports and opinions don't lie.
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2138777]I have the utmost respect for Sharks and their owners. They will manage to turn it around for very sure. I can't believe that Oase should be better than Sharks in the winter time but I guess all those reports and opinions don't lie.[/QUOTE]Sharks' set up has the advantage of wow factor because you can see all of the talent at once. It also has the quantity over Oase. Once you get past that, the ratio of hottest women to men is the same. I can actually relax at Oase without having to hear the same 25 tracks of songs. I can even communicate with the outside world without having hold the phone next to my crotch under a towel, LOL. Now with the Sharks upsell, what advantage does it have any more?
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2138774]I am lost with that expression. Why exactly are they referred to as Pole dancers?[/QUOTE]Th girls who sit by the pole, none are really pole dancers.
The rise in the preference of Oase against Sharks was bound to happen. Firstly, I noticed a significant improvement in the talent in Oase last summer compared to 2016. Secondly, there had been an increase in upselling in Sharks although it had not reached the level of Oase. Thirdly, there are groups of 'prima donnas' in Sharks who I notice refuse many guys outright, that does not occur at Oase. How will it pan out, time will tell.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2138811]The rise in the preference of Oase against Sharks was bound to happen. Firstly, I noticed a significant improvement in the talent in Oase last summer compared to 2016. Secondly, there had been an increase in upselling in Sharks although it had not reached the level of Oase. Thirdly, there are groups of 'prima donnas' in Sharks who I notice refuse many guys outright, that does not occur at Oase. How will it pan out, time will tell.[/QUOTE]I can't agree with you, you can't deny the right to the girls to refuse some man, we also have the right to refuse the girls, it is our responsibility to make us attractive, clean. So the girls will not refuse us, in 13 years of FKK only 1 girl refused me and I refused 100 and 100 of girls.
[QUOTE=DesRev;2138521]100 euro / one hour rooms are not enough to satisfy the greed of some girls. Is there another option? Men will stop going to Sharks if it becomes simpler and more satisfying to have a wank at home or go to another FKK / brothel / escort agency. The upsellers are unable to see or are inconsiderate of the fact that they are polluting the environment by going for short term small profit with sharkish behavior.[/QUOTE]Anyone who has a polluted interior (emotionally and / or mentally) is going to pollute the environment, regardless of gender. Those men who are coming to german FKK clubs, sometimes travelling distances of several thousand miles, thinking they get cheap sex IMHO are severly mentally polluted.
[QUOTE=DesRev;2138521]These upsells are, of course, only for the money, not because they have any interest in those activities. Even kissing has become an upsell. [/QUOTE]The main interest for woman to work there is to earn a lot of money, as quick as possible. "Fake it until you make it", we again just learned from McAdonis' link.
I said it several times and I will repeat it here again for you: the main purpose of prostitution (in all its manifold variations) is to facilitate the transfer of money from men to women. And seemingly independant of the respective enviroment, sex is by all means the best carrot so-called greedy women can place in front of us needy male rabbits! Smiley.
[QUOTE=DesRev;2138521]I do not know if the Sharks' management will be able to fix this issue.[/QUOTE]If no one complains when they ask about the satisfaction, it's going to be difficult.
Let's be clear, we don't go to clubs to eat, to have some sauna or to play ball in the swimming pool, the main reason is SEX. So the club is responsible for managing the girls. But most of guys at Sharks seem really happy with the situation, they never complain, they happily accept every upsell and they come back!
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2138825]If no one complains when they ask about the satisfaction, it's going to be difficult.
Let's be clear, we don't go to clubs to eat, to have some sauna or to play ball in the swimming pool, the main reason is SEX. So the club is responsible for managing the girls. But most of guys at Sharks seem really happy with the situation, they never complain, they happily accept every upsell and they come back![/QUOTE]Sorry but many German guys are no more visiting this club, now you can't stop the foreign visitors to go there and to destroy the price policy. It is was made the success of Palace, and Artemis not the local guys. The management in Oase and Shark is very weak they are just looking at the situation but yesterday and today were both slow day, could be the beginning of a turnaround.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2138825]If no one complains when they ask about the satisfaction, it's going to be difficult.
Let's be clear, we don't go to clubs to eat, to have some sauna or to play ball in the swimming pool, the main reason is SEX. So the club is responsible for managing the girls. But most of guys at Sharks seem really happy with the situation, they never complain, they happily accept every upsell and they come back![/QUOTE]If an upsell happens to me more often than not I will definitely voice my anger. Maybe not the first time but definitely if it becomes a theme. I gave the reception a piece of my mind every time I had a bad night there. In Sharks it hasn't happened to me yet.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2138821]Anyone who has a polluted interior (emotionally and / or mentally) is going to pollute the environment, regardless of gender. Those men who are coming to german FKK clubs, sometimes travelling distances of several thousand miles, thinking they get cheap sex IMHO are severly mentally polluted.[/QUOTE]Your contempt and judgement towards fellow mongers on a mongering board is insulting and seems out of place on a forum named *International* Sex Guide.
Id say the tens of kilometers you traveled to Sharks last week makes you no less mentally polluted than those who travel thousands. Your ongoing contempt for other mongers however does seem to come from a dark, resentful place, with some elements of xenophobia.
How's the weather up there on that very tall horse that you're on?🙄
[QUOTE=NickTheG;2138821]Anyone who has a polluted interior (emotionally and / or mentally) is going to pollute the environment, regardless of gender. Those men who are coming to german FKK clubs, sometimes travelling distances of several thousand miles, thinking they get cheap sex IMHO are severly mentally polluted.
The main interest for woman to work there is to earn a lot of money, as quick as possible. "Fake it until you make it", we again just learned from McAdonis' link.
I said it several times and I will repeat it here again for you: the main purpose of prostitution (in all its manifold variations) is to facilitate the transfer of money from men to women. And seemingly independant of the respective enviroment, sex is by all means the best carrot so-called greedy women can place in front of us needy male rabbits! Smiley.[/QUOTE]Perfect summary, but we can also ask for a fair counterpart what is very easy to get in Germany where the offer is incredibly wide and numerous more difficult in many other countries. The upsell is increasing year by year in all the big clubs and the girls are destroying themselves their business, some are asking extra for kissing, licking. No extra from my side except anal and CIM, that is all and we should all do the same. I visited a middle size club this week had extremely great time with a Roumania 20 YO beginners, done a lot of things stayed around 1 H30 in the room, when I ask her the price she told 200 euros I told her that there is a mistake she answered no why it is too expensive, in Frankfurt I will have to pay at least 400 euros with a stressing service. Many German guys are doing like me looking for alternative to the big clubs and let the girls in Shark or Oase. To be fucked hardly every day for 50 euro by non christian Caucasian mongers, may be 1 day they will regret the way they were cheating us, but probably not they are too stupid for that.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2138832]Your contempt and judgement towards fellow mongers on a mongering board is insulting and seems out of place on a forum named *International* Sex Guide.
Id say the tens of kilometers you traveled to Sharks last week makes you no less mentally polluted than those who travel thousands. Your ongoing contempt for other mongers however does seem to come from a dark, resentful place, with some elements of xenophobia.
How's the weather up there on that very tall horse that you're on?🙄[/QUOTE]I understand the comment, it is true that many mongers coming from far are destroying the balance in Shark, Oase, palace, Manhattan, locals like me have no choice that to try to find alternative solutions, when a girl earned hundred and hundreds with a Asian guy, extremely shy asking for nothing, after him it is difficult for us to get a good service. In so many years of FKK visits never any Asian guy asked me a question about how it works, what are the price. When I am mongering outside Germany I always try to get good info from locals. Just look how pathetic to see all the girls in Oase or Shark hunting aggressively about the Asian guys.
"Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac. ".
Let us be honest: outside of FKK clubs no women would ever come up to me and propose sex. Maybe everyone else here is Ryan Gosling but I know my place. I am a walking bank to these "sharks."
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2138777]I have the utmost respect for Sharks and their owners. They will manage to turn it around for very sure. I can't believe that Oase should be better than Sharks in the winter time but I guess all those reports and opinions don't lie.[/QUOTE]Scrolled through the last few pages and there is a lot of positive reviews of Sharks also so it's just the taste of the month for some posters to have this view now. Seen this discussion about Sharks and Oase many times and it varies of who is better. Personally I am not ready to go back to Oase over Sharks. It was so bad and filled with aggressive and pushy girls at Oase so I don't really believe that atmosphere is gone. Never had that attitude at Sharks (except for Angelina).
[QUOTE=Takedown;2138832]Id say the tens of kilometers you traveled to Sharks last week makes you no less mentally polluted than those who travel thousands.[/QUOTE]Please don't confuse: I was stating that is is the expectation of having *cheap sex* that is polluting the mind.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2138832]Your ongoing contempt for other mongers however does seem to come from a dark, resentful place, with some elements of xenophobia.[/QUOTE]Nice attempt, but completely wrong with regards to me. Whenever I meet people from abroad in the club personally and they ask me for advice, I will give them hints, depending on their preferences.
You are right: Sharks and other FKK-clubs are dark, resentful places! Cauldrons filled with people full of unprocessed emotional projections on other people!