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No, Trump has never been supported by most Americans
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2988000]Most Americans are so low level, kind of sheeps, when must be really no brained to elect a crazy like Trump who was already known, and now put real shame on USA which are now just able for robbering poor and weak in front of the whole world which can judge really no MAGA, but threatening blackmailing, kind of chickens robbers. I would feel really shameful if I was American. I m proud not to be, when Europe keep on supporting Ukraine and Greenland. Criminal dictator Putin showed the world his military is not powerful, not able to defeat Ukraine after 3 years, but now, he feels supported by Trump and keep on killing Ukrainians. Greenland don t want USA. Romania, Moldavia and Georgia also don t want Putin.[/QUOTE]"Most" Americans have never supported or voted for Donald Trump. "Most" of the American electorate has never voted for him. In fact, most of the American electorate voted for "NOT Trump" last November.
When I accurately point out that as little as less than a single percentage point shift from Trump to Harris in just 3 swing states would have produced a President Harris instead of a so-called president Trump, very, very likely made up entirely by a primarily one-issue demographic of angry Muslims who had been mobilized by their Muslim Community leaders in exactly those 3 States to deny anyone from the Biden Administration the presidency due to Netanyahu timing his cease-fire pause until AFTER the election, I am only referring the deciding factor regarding The Players On The Field, the voters who actually voted.
And that was about as razor-thin a margin of victory vs defeat for Trump as one can imagine; LESS than a one percentage point shift from a demo that wasn't even voting on the economy, immigration, the price of eggs, trannies or any of the other issues typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media wanted everyone to care about.
However, when you factor in The Players Not On The Field, that would include millions of 2020 Biden voters who just decided not to play / vote this time around. And very, very likely for the usual reason people don't bother to vote; they are fine with their financial, economic and job situation and have been bamboozled by classic pro-Repub pretend "Bothsider / Neithersiders" into the mistaken belief that it doesn't really matter who is president.
Well, I think and hope this time around the vast majority of the American electorate will learn a hard lesson that, how about that, I guess it really and truly does matter who is president after all. And quite a lot.
LOL. Note the word social right there in the Subject Line.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2988007]
[b]A social phenonium[/b]
Good morning, Xpartan. Your post put a smile on my face. This is not meant to be a dig, but I find it an interesting that otherwise intelligent, left leaning persons like yourself can't fathom how people like me can support Trump. Here is a tip, start with the idea that the larger a government becomes the less freedom its citizens will have. Then take a closer look at the social / cultural bubble that affluent liberals exist in, in places like the upper west side of Manhattan, Hollywood, and Boca Raton. KKK. Many, if not a majority of these "liberals" do not / will not socialize with people of their own economic bracket who do not go along with their group sync and thus are shocked when they discover that many of their most cherished beliefs are opposed by people as successful and affluent as themselves.
There is a funny scene in 3 season, episode 3 of White Lotus where three affluent, long time, but distant female friends (farangs) are having after dinner drinks at the 6 star hotel in southern Thailand when the conversation unexpectedly turns to politics and one of the friends reveals that she voted for Trump. The other 2 friends are polite about it, but they can't hide their surprise and disapproval. Later when the two girlfriends are alone, they agree with each other that their friend is out of her gordita and their dismay that their friend has betrayed women's rights. It's a funny and revealing scene.
Check it out although the jury is still out on whether season 3 is any good or not. Season 2 was must see TV, however. The story line in Season 2 revolved around 2 high end Sicilian hookers. It was very entertaining, and the ending of Season 2 was classic.[/QUOTE]The very definition of a Repub Social Issue Sucker.
Imagine someone so blinded by their indoctrination into that Sucker Social Issue mindset that he apparently hasn't even noticed that Trump surrounds himself with billionaires in his Cabinet, as the Real Acting President, in and around his life who, like him, have never and would never rub shoulders with his support base, refusing to touch those "dirty, disgusting people. ".
Not a word about the millions upon millions of Americans who lost their jobs thanks to his and his fellow Repubs' disastrous economic policies and stewardship.
Or the violent cop-attacking and killing mob of Insurrectionists he led into battle on American Soil in his War Against America.
Or Trump's record breaking Trillions added to the deficit. As is typical of many Repub potuses.
Or his increasing the size of the Federal Governmrnt by at least two hertofore unheard of "Cabinet" departments. Again, as Repub potuses' disastrous policies typically grow the size of government rather than shrink it.
No. It all comes down to some idiotic sucker social issue impression fed to him on some silly TV show.
[B]Former Pence advisor says Trump referred to supporters as disgusting people.
Olivia Troye is backing Harris-Walz saying they will take us down a better path
Aug. 21, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-olivia-troye-disgusting-people-b2599762.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Olivia Troye, a lifelong Republican and former advisor to ex-Vice President Mike Pence, said that she is speaking at the Democratic National Convention because she does not want Donald Trump to be president again claiming that he treated his supporters poorly.
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"I was in the room when [b]Trump said I dont want to shake hands with those dirty people, those disgusting people, Troye said, referencing an alleged moment in 2020 when Trump said he was grateful the pandemic caused restrictions on handshakes.[/b]
Troye said Trump doesnt care about his supporters and has complete disregard.
"What really breaks my heart is just how much they rally around someone who just doesnt care about them, Troye told Jim Acosta.[/QUOTE]
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Corndogged by the internet
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2988010]Didn't you even notice how much younger Paul is in that clip compared to the last 9 years? He was talking about President Obama, not so-called president Trump.[/QUOTE]I can't recall exactly how I came upon this video. I just remember vaguely fooling around on YouTube premium last night high on a joint and there it was. Mea culpa. I SHOULD of known better before I reposted it here.
Of course, I noticed Paul's "younger" look in the video, but I did not question the authenticity of the posting mainly because I wrongly attributed Paul's "younger" look to 2016 or 2017 and not 2010 or 2012 when the video was actually made. There were other tells on the video as well which should have raised more red flags plus I have seen McCartney publicly scorn Trump in the past. What can I say? I was bamboozled by the internet plain and simple AND I admit it! It was a stupid mistake. My only defense is that I did not post this BS on purpose or try to mislead anybody. Take a look at the attached pic from the video and the caption at the bottom which reads, "Paul McCartney on singing with Trump". Regardless, I fucked up and I feel embarrassed by being so easily corndogged (fucked in the ass) by the internet.
It can happen to anyone these days.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2988093]I can't recall exactly how I came upon this video. I just remember vaguely fooling around on YouTube premium last night high on a joint and there it was. Mea culpa. I SHOULD of known better before I reposted it here.
Of course, I noticed Paul's "younger" look in the video, but I did not question the authenticity of the posting mainly because I wrongly attributed Paul's "younger" look to 2016 or 2017 and not 2010 or 2012 when the video was actually made. There were other tells on the video as well which should have raised more red flags plus I have seen McCartney publicly scorn Trump in the past. What can I say? I was bamboozled by the internet plain and simple AND I admit it! It was a stupid mistake. My only defense is that I did not post this BS on purpose or try to mislead anybody. Take a look at the attached pic from the video and the caption at the bottom which reads, "Paul McCartney on singing with Trump". Regardless, I fucked up and I feel embarrassed by being so easily corndogged (fucked in the ass) by the internet.[/QUOTE]Actually, I am surprised the scammers didn't apply AI to make him look like he does today.
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Trump is Putin's Most Useful Idiot and the greatest Russian Asset ever.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2988096]It's impossible to not see the resemblance between Hitler's behavior and putin's behavior for the last 17 years.
I called putin out for it eleven years ago. The rhetoric, the lies, the wars.
It's a match. Its indistinguishable.
You really should go back and listen to it.
There are a lot of nazis in russia, I don't understand why you want to repeat putin's propaganda.
The whole attempt to accuse the Ukranians of being nazis is ridiculous considering the fact that President Zelensky is Jewish.
Zelensky received almost 75% of the votes in the presidential election! Is that the reason why trump hates him and Ukraine so much? Trump is simply jealous that he will never be as popular as Zelensky?
Anyways, it reminds me of how they used to lie that the Berlin Wall was an "Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart" while in reality they shot anyone that tried to get over to the West.
The Russians are literally war criminals, the Russians started this war but the Ukrainians are "bad guys" because they defend their country.
Come on, in what universe am I supposed to believe that BS?
The Russians are forcing civilians (both in russia and occupied areas of Ukraine) to participate in their illegal invasion and you want to put the blame on Ukraine.
If the Russians returns back home to russia the war will end.
The Ukrainians are already at home, they wish! They pray! They truly do wish that they could end the war simply by going home!
Even Russian men are fleeing their country to avoid being forced to be a part of the war in Ukraine.
Meanwhile Russian women flee abroad to work as prostitutes because putin butchered the russian economy.
Putin is an evil guy.
You have to understand how ludicrous this is.
Let me give you the European perspective: Russia's current neighbors never attacked russia!
No one in Russia is afraid of Ukraine, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Georgia!
It is laughable to even consider that russian propaganda.
The Russians are the original liars and propagandists, I wonder if they were the ones who taught Donald Trump how to lie?
Let me assure you this; there are a lot of people in these countries that are very afraid of Russia. And we see now in Ukraine why they are afraid of Russia.
That's why they joined NATO. The Baltics could never defend themselves against russia. Russia's neighbors do not ask for foreign troops to come to their countries because they think it's funny or because they want to become the target of Russia's nuclear weapons! They do it because they are afraid of an aggressive russia.
Russia has invaded, occupied and oppressed people all over Eastern and Central Europe.
Some things never change, and that's one of those things.
Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are small countries with small economic muscles. They depend on NATO. They depend on nuclear deterrence.
The support of USA made them safe. The support of USA made them able to transform their economies to what we see today. Healthy countries, still undoubtedly behind the US, but a far cry from the mess it was during the Soviet Union and when they first began taking their stumbling steps in freedom.
I remember when I was a young boy that my school sent Christmas presents to the Baltics. It was not much, much of it was simple hygiene articles but it also included a little box of candy.
This memory brings me a lot of shame as I remember telling my mother that we shouldn't bother to send any package.
In my stupid, spoiled and childish mind I couldn't fathom how they could possibly care or be thankful for schampo, pencils and a little box of candy.
I'm thankful today that my mother had so much better judgement and simply ignored my opinion.
We saw in Georgia 2008 how Russia treats it's neighbors.
We saw in Crimea and Donbas 2014 how Russia treats it's neighbors.
Today we see how russian soldiers are murdering innocent people all over Ukraine!
There's nothing to discuss, there is no doubt about what's going on.
Putin is a war criminal, russia must end the war, Ukraine deserves peace and Zelensky is a war hero!
But I have to admit that I'the also rather live in Russia as I wouldn't have to worry about getting murdered or invaded by my neighboring country.[/QUOTE]Either that or Trump is less capable of understanding the longterm and recent history of Russia in this regard than he is about telling the truth about anything of importance. Which means 100% incapable of it.
This is why his and his VP, Shady Pants, performance and treatment of Zelenskyy in the Oval Office revealed both of them and every other Trump lackey and supporter to be the laughing stock at best and mortal enemies of democracy and the Free World at worst:
And we're back to pettiness, just like the MAGA Fuhrer...
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2988002]Oh brother! Yes, in the MAGA movement, there are people who scoff at EVs in large part due to the fact that they are associated with douches like yourself who want to jam them down everyone's throat. [/QUOTE]
[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] You're so blinded from you own fake QAnon\MAGA imbecilic nationalism, is it any wonder that, most cult QAnon\MAGA knuckleheads, need to first check with your American Fuhrer, before making a decision to fart, let alone make a decision on buying an EV, by yourself.
And before, you continue to tell more lies, please, please, please...post one time (just one time), where I've told anyone here, what to buy, or [i][b]"jam them down everyone's throat"[/b][/i] as you are idiotically suggesting. But rest assured, I will debunk dis-misinformation, I deem incorrect.
I've repeatedly, told you and others, on several occasions, [i][b]"I don't freakin' care what you wanna drive or buy..."[/b][/i], as it would be moronic (as you, Elvis 2008 have done) of anyone here, to think, that what they prefer to drive or buy, matters to the degree, it will sway/change what the overall market trends are showing.
Don't confuse or mistake my enthusiasm, for greener, cleaner, energy efficient, electrifying technologies and the trends towards the electrification of our industries (where possible) and of just about "EVERYTHING ELSE", as we decarbonize away from fossil fuels, as some silly battle cry of [i]"...buy EVs, buy EVs, buy",[/i] because it's NOT!
It just so happens, I have an interest, with an especially keen eye on the electrification of transportation and the geo-eco-socio-policical trends and impact of electrification, as the world moves forward towards (or MAGA backwards from) greener solutions and a faster growing electrification of industries, around the world and what it all means.
But once again, leave it to [b]MAGA pettiness[/b] and short-sightedness (which was how this exchange of posts began, with the American Fuhrer's pettiness), to think that the markets and global trends, care much, for their singular choices in vehicles.
Pure hubris at it's best!
EU holds steady on 2035 ICE bans...
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2987978]EU will change, now postponing thermic and many Europeans don t want but burn now Tesla from facist Musk who is a big liar / faker. [/QUOTE]Yes the EU has allowed some relief on payments by those that haven't meet CO2 emission requirements, but have not yet moved, with regards to ending the ban on ICE vehicles for 2035.
[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2025/03/06/europe-eases-co2-rules-but-pressure-rises-to-end-2035-ev-monopoly/[/url]
No tears for Tesla here! It's too bad the company and car owners have to suffer!
But I love the creativity, where it has been reported, that many Tesla car owners, are for example, rebadging their vehicles with Audi, Honda...etc, badges to throw-off would be anti-Musk vandalism [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]
