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I think the last few messages have given me a lot of insight without being there personally although I thought I would. My planned trip got cancelled. Should I be happy or sad about that? LOL.
Still sucks to read that Sharks is trending in the wrong direction, though.
In all seriousness this is an absolute truth: a "hardcore fly-in FKK mongerer" cannot be compared to an average local or "tourist". This is specialist vs recreational hobby mongerer. The beauty of it is that they all can co-exist with different opinions.
Anyway, this makes me understand the many controversial reviews in the Vienna forum. It's nice, thanks for everyone giving all the information. It is beyond essential.
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Uncle Ox, you make good points but what can the club do? Some sort of pre booking was always there — you session with your fav, and as you are paying you say "are you free tomorrow at 10 PM?" and right there pre booked for the next day. Who is to say that kind of pre booking is any better or desirable than doing so on social media?
I see this as more things in life —- transactions, interactions, what have you — moving online from offline. Just the way life goes these days.
And anyway, it is not all the girls, I imagine. Just a few overhyped girls.
The club in all likelihood might do nothing. If girls and guys still come to the club, they are collecting their entry fee and are happy. If they take it to a private hotel, club would have a problem.
Btw, wanted to thank Bitumen for keeping these threads alive and full of latest info. Keep it up dude!
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Laura.
Does anyone know if Laura has an instagram or twitter to book some of her time like some of the girls do? She's usually only there on Saturdays and sometimes Fridays, sadly I'll only be there today (Sunday) so I was hoping there was a way to reach her and see if she'd consider a Sunday visit.
Laura is Hungarian, dirty blonde hair about shoulder length, 170 cm (5'7") without heels and doesn't wear the crazy platforms (normal heels).
I'm assuming she doesn't have any booking mechanism since she's only in once maybe twice a week but figured it's worth a shot and if anybody has any clue it'd you all!
Side note, she's amazing if anyone catches her in the brief interludes before someone else grabs her.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2139774]There is a newer girl at Shark, her name is Anastasia, only have work there a few month. Beautiful milk complexion and light eyes. A rare girl in FKK with very pink nipple, pink pussy and pink asshole. Beautiful natural body (look like athletic girl on school sports team) with perfect be cup. Hair is colored blonde in curly ponytail, but her darker root show. Saying she is half Romanian and half western / northern European hence the milky complexion and nice pink feature.
Very very pleasant services from Anastasia, such nice sexy voice during sex, and no upsell. I wish to repeat with her soon, hope she continue for work at shark.
She is very interesting addition as we see so many beautiful Romanian girl all the time in FKK but they all having such dark feature, olive skin, no pink. From afar you can see Anastasia skin undertone is not olive, but instead have a subtle violet hue underneath the milky skin tone.[/QUOTE]Not so new, she was already at Sharks in October, but a real natural beauty when she doesn't put too heavy make up, she doesn't need.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2139774]There is a newer girl at Shark, her name is Anastasia, only have work there a few month. Beautiful milk complexion and light eyes. A rare girl in FKK with very pink nipple, pink pussy and pink asshole. Beautiful natural body (look like athletic girl on school sports team) with perfect be cup. Hair is colored blonde in curly ponytail, but her darker root show. Saying she is half Romanian and half western / northern European hence the milky complexion and nice pink feature.
Very very pleasant services from Anastasia, such nice sexy voice during sex, and no upsell. I wish to repeat with her soon, hope she continue for work at shark.
She is very interesting addition as we see so many beautiful Romanian girl all the time in FKK but they all having such dark feature, olive skin, no pink. From afar you can see Anastasia skin undertone is not olive, but instead have a subtle violet hue underneath the milky skin tone.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report. Can you point out where she sits so we can check her out?
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2139732]I think all FKK clubs management teams should be very cautious to this trend. If Using social media Apps to pre-book girls become a mainstream, FKK clubs would become escort in-call room. It will fundamentally ruin FKK business due to the obvious fact that FKK clubs will lose huge amount of money.
Every FKK club, especially Sharks or Oase, spends huge money to maintain their hardwares and softwares each year. However, these investments will become worthless, if the club's function is just equivalent to a cheap and shabby escort-in-call rooms.
Pre-booking would make Lineup deteriorate soon. As mentioned by horny Harry: "as a result the LU there is extremely unreliable as lots of high quality girls either meet customers outside the club or these girls make arrangements to meet a customer inside the club at specific times and thus are no longer are a part of the visible LU."
Not only would it hurt interests of clubs and most mongers, but did hurt most WGs.
All clubs should discourage pre-booking behavior, and enforce first-come-first-serve policy. Yes, girls still have right to reject mongers due to monger's Improper manners.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's as big an issue as you make it out to be. To me, the appeal of FKK clubs is that you can walk in, see the whole LU, and decide what (who) you want to do. If you're going to make an appointment, go into the club for that girl and that girl only, and then leave, why not just book a regular escort? I think most of us, even if we make an appointment, will still hang around and if someone else catches our eye, we're not going to have any reservations about it.
For the girls, it's a certainty that if they have a large customer base, they could make more money by going independent. However, the number of girls who can do this are very few, and even the superstars like Mandy still go to the club. They'll be booked most of the time, but even for them, they have some downtime between bookings, and if they can snag a customer or two between their bookings, then they're not going to complain.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2139807]The club in all likelihood might do nothing. If girls and guys still come to the club, they are collecting their entry fee and are happy. If they take it to a private hotel, club would have a problem.[/QUOTE]There's not much the club *can* do, even if they wanted to. They can't force the girl to take a guy she doesn't want (whether that's because she dislikes him, or she has an appointment), and if they try to monitor for pre-bookings and force the girls not to take them, well, the girls aren't exactly tied down to a specific club. They'd go elsewhere, and if enough of the top performers leave, the clients will follow.
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[QUOTE=CGuyy;2139832]Does anyone know if Laura has an instagram or twitter to book some of her time like some of the girls do? She's usually only there on Saturdays and sometimes Fridays, sadly I'll only be there today (Sunday) so I was hoping there was a way to reach her and see if she'd consider a Sunday visit.
Laura is Hungarian, dirty blonde hair about shoulder length, 170 cm (5'7") without heels and doesn't wear the crazy platforms (normal heels).
I'm assuming she doesn't have any booking mechanism since she's only in once maybe twice a week but figured it's worth a shot and if anybody has any clue it'd you all!
Side note, she's amazing if anyone catches her in the brief interludes before someone else grabs her.[/QUOTE]Never had problem to get Lora, not what I call a busy girl, compare to some girls who are booked for many hours. My mystery girl was booked from 2.30 pm to after midnight on 2 Friday, so even she said see You later, I gave up, I wasted too long time.
On end of last year, she said working only on week end.
Mandy or Evita are also usually not full busy on early afternoon.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2139732]I think all FKK clubs management teams should be very cautious to this trend. If Using social media Apps to pre-book girls become a mainstream, FKK clubs would become escort in-call room. It will fundamentally ruin FKK business due to the obvious fact that FKK clubs will lose huge amount of money.
Every FKK club, especially Sharks or Oase, spends huge money to maintain their hardwares and softwares each year. However, these investments will become worthless, if the club's function is just equivalent to a cheap and shabby escort-in-call rooms.
Pre-booking would make Lineup deteriorate soon. As mentioned by horny Harry: "as a result the LU there is extremely unreliable as lots of high quality girls either meet customers outside the club or these girls make arrangements to meet a customer inside the club at specific times and thus are no longer are a part of the visible LU."
Not only would it hurt interests of clubs and most mongers, but did hurt most WGs.
All clubs should discourage pre-booking behavior, and enforce first-come-first-serve policy. Yes, girls still have right to reject mongers due to monger's Improper manners.[/QUOTE]I think this will become more and more the trend. In Sao Paulo where I am now all the hottest girls in the clinicas are pre-booked. Whenever I enter a clinica I will see mongers enter and straight away go with the best looking garotas who were not in the lineup. With greater competition for the best providers this may become the norm at FKKs.
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Aphrodite
[QUOTE=Gonzo88;2139650]With Aphrodite, she seems to always sit at one end of the bar closer to the fish tank and does not walk around much looking for business. I had seen her once before about 6 months ago, and so I sat next to her in an empty chair and started talking to her. I talked to her for about 15 minutes before going to room to try to establish a good vibe and I was really happy with her performance, she seems like a nice, funny, easy going person. The only "upsell" she tried was to ask if I wanted to come in her mouth, and when I said no, she did not bring it up again. I liked her so much I repeated with her later that night.[/QUOTE]I am interested to know how much you paid her. I really like her but she never accepted 50 E sessions from me, only 100 E. I will like to repeat with her in my return later this year but only for 50 E.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2139848]Thank you for your report. Can you point out where she sits so we can check her out?[/QUOTE]She doesn't seem to sit much. Always roaming, especially upstairs by the jacuzzi area. Honestly, she's not much of a looker. Skinny amd natural yes, especially pretty or cute? Not really.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2139999]I am interested to know how much you paid her. I really like her but she never accepted 50 E sessions from me, only 100 E. I will like to repeat with her in my return later this year but only for 50 E.[/QUOTE]She was my first girl at Sharks one year and a half ago, she didn"t ask how long I wanted to stay, proposed once the CIM but I just declined, and the service was satisfying (DFK, DATY) so I stayed one hour. There was no "one hour for DFK" blackmail at the start of the session. Keep in mind that it was in 2016, maybe she changed her way of work.
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[QUOTE=StapleStable;2139876]There's not much the club *can* do, even if they wanted to. They can't force the girl to take a guy she doesn't want (whether that's because she dislikes him, or she has an appointment), and if they try to monitor for pre-bookings and force the girls not to take them, well, the girls aren't exactly tied down to a specific club. They'd go elsewhere, and if enough of the top performers leave, the clients will follow.[/QUOTE]Of course the anti booking guys are looking out for their own benefit. But theclub has nothing to lose. Like previously stated, they still get entry from both parties.
This argument sounds very whiney to me. "It's not fair, sob sob. " If you can't or don't want to spend the money or do the simple work of grabbing a WhatsApp number that is your problem.
Janine sat her ass on that couch for over a year being pre-booked. She sat 10 meters from the reception taking very few non pre booked clients and the club did not care one bit. Why should they? Cry babies.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2139848]Thank you for your report. Can you point out where she sits so we can check her out?[/QUOTE]I saw Anastasia sitting around couches next to far back portion of bar, furthest distances from Eingang. But you can spot her anywhere in the club since she is basically the only milky pink skin girl with all the Shark's club lightings.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2140012]Of course the anti booking guys are looking out for their own benefit. But theclub has nothing to lose. Like previously stated, they still get entry from both parties.
This argument sounds very whiney to me. "It's not fair, sob sob. " If you can't or don't want to spend the money or do the simple work of grabbing a WhatsApp number that is your problem.
Janine sat her ass on that couch for over a year being pre-booked. She sat 10 meters from the reception taking very few non pre booked clients and the club did not care one bit. Why should they? Cry babies.[/QUOTE]The business of the clubs is comparable to a hotel, they don't care what you do or not do they just want to cash the entry tickets also with the new law it is quite challenging for them to interfere too much in the business of the girls or to fix the prices it is strongly against the principal of the new law, the girls are free to fix their prices to give or not appointments, to go with this guy or not.