Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1758161]Does anyone know why they do this? Are they not interested in making extra money for LT or are they just happy with there lady drinks and baht balls? I found it very strange and have found that Walking street gogo girl are now do this more and more.

I would love someone to enlighten me before I return next month, maybe I am doing it all wrong.[/QUOTE]I don't know but it is not always about the money. Do you really want to take someone who does not want to stay with you? Chicks know I am a butterfly, but they still get mad when I don't tell them to come over. Then guess what? I finally get a spot for them in my schedule and instead they have to go to parties and everything else. Then the next day how was the party? Oh I ended up not going. And see that is why your ass won't get another chance to come over. Don't take it personal, just move on to the next one. There are plenty.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1758161]Does anyone know why they do this? Are they not interested in making extra money for LT or are they just happy with there lady drinks and baht balls? I found it very strange and have found that Walking street gogo girl are now do this more and more.

I would love someone to enlighten me before I return next month, maybe I am doing it all wrong.[/QUOTE]Does it mean the girls are became more honest than before?

Most go go girls are bluffer, they get agree for LT but but after one sex most are start to excuse to skip the LT and want to run away with or without ripping your money. If they disagree for LT I would say they became honest under some pressure?

It is just my experience.

[QUOTE=JohnnyNeedsMor;1758139]Hi guys,

Heading to Pattaya next month. Just wanted to know how the treatment towards Indians is, I am an Indian and I don't want to go to a bar and be turned down.[/QUOTE]Does anyone else feel like there should be a separate thread started that is dedicated to this issue?

In summary:

In the past so many of your brethren have displayed such obnoxious and abhorrent social behavior that a (well earned) negative reputation has already been established. The stories and experiences are so pervasive and universal that many ladies and establishments will dismiss you outright.

You can partially combat these perceptions by: acting civil and courteously, dressing smartly, treating the woman with respect, not being cheap, not traveling in a pack with other Indians, treating the women with respect, finding a farang wingman, moving on in the face of rejection, being prepared to put in extra effort, treating the woman with respect, and in general not acting like an asshole towards everyone you come into contact with.

Did I mention treating the woman with respect?

SL.

[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1753241]I was just wondering what the girl or club action will be like for Pattaya over the next two days as it is supposed to be Big Buddha days? For example will the Devils Den be open on either Thursday or Friday?[/QUOTE]When I was there 10 days ago, practically all the Gogos were closed on the evening of the 31st, like club Lucifer, Sensations, etc. However, many bars were open, like P72, where me, my brother & his Thai wife had cokes because alcohol wasn't being served. Plus there was a big downpour that Friday evening. But that didn't put a damper on the tour groups.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1758301]Does anyone else feel like there should be a separate thread started that is dedicated to this issue?

In summary:

In the past so many of your brethren have displayed such obnoxious and abhorrent social behavior that a (well earned) negative reputation has already been established. The stories and experiences are so pervasive and universal that many ladies and establishments will dismiss you outright.

You can partially combat these perceptions by: acting civil and courteously, dressing smartly, treating the woman with respect, not being cheap, not traveling in a pack with other Indians, treating the women with respect, finding a farang wingman, moving on in the face of rejection, being prepared to put in extra effort, treating the woman with respect, and in general not acting like an asshole towards everyone you come into contact with.

Did I mention treating the woman with respect?

SL.[/QUOTE]Well said. If they dedicate a separate thread for this subject, this should be the first post. It would save the rest of us a lot of time.

Hey guys,

Anyone in Pattaya during those dates? Would love to meet up.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1758301]Does anyone else feel like there should be a separate thread started that is dedicated to this issue?

In summary:

In the past so many of your brethren have displayed such obnoxious and abhorrent social behavior that a (well earned) negative reputation has already been established. The stories and experiences are so pervasive and universal that many ladies and establishments will dismiss you outright.

You can partially combat these perceptions by: acting civil and courteously, dressing smartly, treating the woman with respect, not being cheap, not traveling in a pack with other Indians, treating the women with respect, finding a farang wingman, moving on in the face of rejection, being prepared to put in extra effort, treating the woman with respect, and in general not acting like an asshole towards everyone you come into contact with.

Did I mention treating the woman with respect?

SL.[/QUOTE]Hi JNM, what SL2 says is absolutely true but let that not disheartten you. Very few places may turn you down, just take that on your chin and move on. There are plenty of girls and bars where you will be welcome and will have great time in. I wouldn't worry about it. However, PLEASE do pay attention the words of wisdom from SL2.

Superboy1, are you Indian by chance?

Johnie.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1758161]I had a lot of problems trying to get a girl to go back with me for LT, most would say only 1 or 2 hrs short time, and come up with all sort of reason why they cannot do LT.
[/QUOTE]I think this question could apply to anywhere, not just Pattaya. 23 years ago LT was all there was. ST did not really exist. However the trend has been more and more to ST over the years. I rarely do LT unless I have a very special girl that I am very keen on.

Reasons not to do LT for the girl:

1. You do not offer enough money.

2. She is scared you will want to fuck all night.

3. She cannot sleep if in unfamiliar surroundings.

4. She doesn't know if she is comfortable with you as yet.

5. She has to get home to her child, her mother, her sister, her boyfriend, or whoever.

6. She wants to meet friends for party or disco after work.

7. Its a secret she is doing this job and is expected home at a certain time.

8. She can do 3 to 4 STs in one night and make much more money.

Etc.

I am sure I forgot some reasons. Plenty of girls don't like to do LT and can be difficult to persuade. I have sometimes successfully arranged for a girl to come back to me in the morning, however this is not reliable.

I suggest you always take ST first up, and once you know each other then can move to LT if she is willing and money is right.

Find out where you can get a fuck in the morning if you need it. Also collect phone numbers of girls that might be willing to visit you for a breakfast fuck.

I am celebrating a major birthday in about a week's time (one with a zero at the end) and I am panicking a little because I still have not managed to set anything up.

I would really value your help. Yes, I know I am going to get some RT*F forum type replies but nevertheless.

My ideal scenario would be to take two or even three young (20's), skinny, tall and fairly pretty girls out for dinner and then to a few discos before going back to a hotel with a king size bed for an all-nighter.

It would be preferable if the girls were happy to dress and act a bit slutty for the night out.

The sort of activities that I would hope that these girls would do once we got back to the room would be:

[U]Essential.[/U]

-Rimming, swallowing, snowballing, cum swapping.

[U]Highly desirable.[/U]

-I can film, bareback sex, cum in pussy, creampie eating, real lesbian show (pussy licking, 69, pussy grinding).

[U]Desirable.[/U]

-Bareback anal, cum in ass, arse to mouth.

It would be great if the girls could speak some English at least to get by.

I have thought of looking for these girls in various places.

[U]Brothels[/U]

There are some massage places and there is the brothel Devil's Den where the girls would definitely do rimming and probably cum swapping. But often these girls are not particularly attractive compared to the go go bar girls, are known for being a bit mechanical, they definitely will never bareback and for overnight service the price rises astronomically far more than the go go bar girls.

[U]The go go bars[/U]

I am happy to pay their high prices but it would take a lot of hard work and time to find girls who are guaranteed to do all of the things on the list for real once they get back to the room. It would also cost a fortune in lady drinks to interview different girls. Many of these go go bar girls won't even do BBBJs any more. Also, many / most of the really gorgeous ones will not be bar fined.

I could enlist the help of the mamasan at the bars however it might be a bit embarrassing discussing the explicit items on the list and also how would she know if the girls actually did these things.

If there are any recommendations for any girls from particular bars who will do pretty much all of the items on the list or any particular bars then that would be gratefully received. I was thinking of trying places like Happy, Baccara, Iron Club.

[U]Escort agencies[/U]

I have no experience of these and they can be very expensive, charging western type prices for overnight which would be much more expensive than you would get in the go go bars. However they would cut down on the legwork of going round the different bars and asking repetitive questions as you could see what each girl would do (although I doubt whether they would list bareback). If anyone had any recommendations for any reliable ones?

[U]Dating agencies/social media sites[/U]

I have no experience of these for Thailand. If anyone had any recommendations for any reliable ones?

[U]Soi 6[/U]

I think I would have more joy here in running through the items on the list as the girls would probably do most of them compared to go go bar girls. However the Soi 6 girls are geared towards short time and don't really want to do long time. Also generally they are not optically as pleasing as the go go bar girls.

[U]Freelancers[/U]

There are numerous freelancers who would party and do long time for a reasonable price however it would be hard work trying to find two who would be willing to do everything on the list.

[U]Beach road, beer bars[/U]

I am ruling these out as I am unlikely to find the quality.

I will only be in Thailand for 3 days before my birthday so I won't have much time to interview different girls at different bars to find the ones that would do what I want. I think it would take at least a week to build up contacts.

[U]Bangkok vs. Pattaya[/U]

I am undecided as to whether to definitely party in Pattaya or Bangkok. The girls in Bangkok are probably better looking overall and the night clubs are better but the go go bars and the night clubs are spread out so you can't do a bar / nightclub crawl like in Pattaya.

Any help that any one could provide with regards to the above would be gratefully received.

[QUOTE=Johnie;1758371]Superboy1, are you Indian by chance?

Johnie.[/QUOTE]No Johnie, I am not Indian, I am British.

Thanks for all your advice to my post guys. I never stress about it when I am there trying to enjoy myself. I just wanted to know if there was a reason for this, I guess I will just change my tactics a little when I am there next month and see what happens.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1758610]
[U]Essential.[/U]

-Rimming, swallowing, snowballing, cum swapping.

[U]Highly desirable.[/U]

-I can film, bareback sex, cum in pussy, creampie eating, real lesbian show (pussy licking, 69, pussy grinding).

[U]Desirable.[/U]

-Bareback anal, cum in ass, arse to mouth.

[/QUOTE]You list some activities that would be repulsive to Thai girls and most people. You must have been watching too much X rated porn. I wonder why guys want women to do such denigrating things, not to mention risky for their life if you happen to have serious diseases?

Normal Thai girls are into extreme cleanliness, and will find you abhorrent if you want all these things, e. G. Arse to mouth. What you talk about is not "playboy" style, its low class porno movie style, produced for the guys that want extreme, and find normal sex boring. Its about the thrill of forcing women to do abhorrent things that they might not want to do.

For me, its about finding hot girls, and having some consideration for what things the girl likes doing or is at least comfortable with doing. If she wants you to fuck her ass, great, but unlikely to be without condom, unless she has Aids already or you get tested first. You can probably find some very ugly girl with HIV already that will do everything you want for money.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1758610]
[U]Essential.[/U]

-Rimming, swallowing, snowballing, cum swapping.

[U]Highly desirable.[/U]

-I can film, bareback sex, cum in pussy, creampie eating, real lesbian show (pussy licking, 69, pussy grinding).

[U]Desirable.[/U]

-Bareback anal, cum in ass, arse to mouth.

It would be great if the girls could speak some English at least to get by.

I have thought of looking for these girls in various places.



Any help that any one could provide with regards to the above would be gratefully received.[/QUOTE]Your only chance to find women who would do this is to find drug addicted freelancers.

If you fuck them in the ass bareback, you are crazy.

Can someone give me the names of a few places which give equal service and prices as Tupils, Mango, Snow White, Cherry, and now Candy's massage in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1758301]Does anyone else feel like there should be a separate thread started that is dedicated to this issue?

In summary:

In the past so many of your brethren have displayed such obnoxious and abhorrent social behavior that a (well earned) negative reputation has already been established. The stories and experiences are so pervasive and universal that many ladies and establishments will dismiss you outright.

You can partially combat these perceptions by: acting civil and courteously, dressing smartly, treating the woman with respect, not being cheap, not traveling in a pack with other Indians, treating the women with respect, finding a farang wingman, moving on in the face of rejection, being prepared to put in extra effort, treating the woman with respect, and in general not acting like an asshole towards everyone you come into contact with.

Did I mention treating the woman with respect?

SL.[/QUOTE]I think this being the result of their (Indians however have no monopoly) indigenous cultural upbringing it would be better to get SL as a wingman? Tutor?