Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BillyBobby;1761834]I told her I wanted a Thai massage and she said it would be 200 baht so I agreed. She took me back into bay walk and upstairs into an open section with many massage tables all in a row. The section she took me into had 3 tables side by side that were not divided. I thought to myself definitely no extras here considering how open it was, but hell I was in Pattaya so I definitely got that wrong. I went to lay on my stomach but [b]she said no lay on my back, which was the first sign more was on offer[/b].[/QUOTE]That was not a sign of anything. A Thai massage is started with you on your back. An oil massage is started with you on your stomach.

[QUOTE=BillyBobby;1761834]She told me I could have any service I wanted and in the end my little fella gave in and I opted for FS. She said 1500 baht and I agreed.[/QUOTE]I know you are on holiday, but it seems in this instance you let your little fella do your thinking for you. At the end of this day you gave an Insomnia girl 1500 for LT so I know that you know better. You can get ST in a gentlemen's club for 1000. You can get a 90 minute soapy for 2000. At all of the sex massage places on Soi Chaiyapoon and Soi Xzyte you can get FS for 1000 or less. Remember in a place where there is no standard price to always negotiate. Personally at a regular massage place that like I will give an extra 500 baht for ST FS, whether the massage is there on premises or back at my room.

[QUOTE=BillyBobby;1761834]Windmill. Fon was really keen for me to bar fine her but it was 1000 bar fine and 3500 long time, but I couldn't justify that after the experience I had the night before in iBar for 2,000 baht plus drinks (and if I took Fon out drinking I would have spent more on drinks too). I ended up telling Fon it was only my second night and I wanted to explore a bit more but I may come back. She was a little disappointed but understood. The supervisor was probably more annoyed but too bad.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about the old lady she is definitely a b-i. I am a regular customer (not for bar-fine) and she is still shitty to me.

[QUOTE=BillyBobby;1761834]I planned to go straight to iBar but when I got there something told me to check out Insomnia.. I ended up meeting a girl from Finland who I would rate a 6 who I could tell was keen but hell I was in Thailand to pick up Thai girls not foreigners (note. I definitely would have tried to pick up the girl from Finland if I was at home)![/QUOTE]But you could have gotten the farang for free. One of my best experiences was when the Ibis on Soi Nana in Bangkok was new. There was a chick there from Texas (but had been living in BKK for 10 years) who was in the hotel because her house was being painted and her forever cheating husband was out of the country on business. Besides reminding me of a Playboy bunny, she spent money on me.

[QUOTE=BillyBobby;1761834]While I was hanging around that stage area I looked over to the bar where the exit to the toilets are and saw this little hottie and we made strong eye contact. I could tell she was on her own so I was trying to decide how to approach her. After a few more times of eye contact and one time of me walking past her and not looking at her I decided I would just talk to her. I went up behind her and asked her if I could buy her a drink and she said yes. We hit it off and we danced for a while and I bought heaps more drinks for me and for her (she was a beer drinker which I loved). I ended up losing the guys from Austria so I asked her if she wanted to leave with me and she said yes. No money was discussed at this point...Just before we walked out the door we still hadn't spoke any money so I gave her 1500 [b]and asked her if this was OK[/b] and she said it was fine. [/QUOTE]She is a hooker dude. No need to decide how to approach her. Just cut to the last thing you did and tell her to leave with you. Again, there is no need to discuss money with a FL disco chick. Just give her 1000-1500 baht and tell her goodbye the next day when it is time for her to go home. She could have just as well said you owe me 4000, not 1500. Don't ask shit that you might not want to know the answer to.

[QUOTE=BillyBobby;1761834]I took her out for lunch to Burger King (her choice) and we got along really well. The poor girl was fairly embarrassed walking down the street in her disco clothes from the night before and I have to say she was getting some funny looks but I didn't care. [/QUOTE]Whenever I pick up a disco chick that I think I may be going out of my house with the next day then I will stop at her place and get some normal clothes after leaving the club. It embarrasses me as well to be leaving my place or out in public with a girl wearing disco clothes in broad daylight. Thanks for the great reports.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1762732]Thai girls are conservative and very cleanliness fastidious, as had already been said. Not that many are into being fucked in the ass. Some do it, only for money. Some girls don't even want to kiss. In many years, only about 3 or 4 Thai girls ever asked me to fuck them in the ass. One of them for extra money, one only because it was her period. This is not South America.
Money high enough can buy anything to make it "consentual" , but where is the fun that gives you value for money? Thailand is not the best place for imitating extreme porn. Ugly older East European hookers, as others suggest, maybe?[/QUOTE]If the customer wants rimming or anything else, she's going to do it if the price is right.

Hi,

I will be visiting Pattaya in mid-Sep for 2 nights /3 days.

On PM. Can some seniors here please advise me on the following places / info:

1. BJ bar (with a FS option) - girl recommendation and damages.

2. Best pick-up bar / disco. Recommendation (if available) and damages.

3. Best soapie. Recommendations and damages.

4. Best brothel (eg. Devil's Den) - recommendations and damages.

5. Best GoGo bar. Recommendations and damages.

I'd be putting up at Hard ROck Hotel. So if anyone has any tips like how to take girls up to the room etc. That will also be helpful.

Anything else you may wish to point out. Will be ever grateful!

Thanks in advance.

Once again Mr E bringing the voice of reality here in Pats. Also thanks for the insights on dealing with negotiating ST FS at the massage parlors. Good Stuff!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1762980]That was not a sign of anything. A Thai massage is started with you on your back. An oil massage is started with you on your stomach.

I know you are on holiday, but it seems in this instance you let your little fella do your thinking for you. At the end of this day you gave an Insomnia girl 1500 for LT so I know that you know better. You can get ST in a gentlemen's club for 1000. You can get a 90 minute soapy for 2000. At all of the sex massage places on Soi Chaiyapoon and Soi Xzyte you can get FS for 1000 or less. Remember in a place where there is no standard price to always negotiate. Personally at a regular massage place that like I will give an extra 500 baht for ST FS, whether the massage is there on premises or back at my room.

If you are talking about the old lady she is definitely a b-i. I am a regular customer (not for bar-fine) and she is still shitty to me.

But you could have gotten the farang for free. One of my best experiences was when the Ibis on Soi Nana in Bangkok was new. There was a chick there from Texas (but had been living in BKK for 10 years) who was in the hotel because her house was being painted and her forever cheating husband was out of the country on business. Besides reminding me of a Playboy bunny, she spent money on me.

She is a hooker dude. No need to decide how to approach her. Just cut to the last thing you did and tell her to leave with you. Again, there is no need to discuss money with a FL disco chick. Just give her 1000-1500 baht and tell her goodbye the next day when it is time for her to go home. She could have just as well said you owe me 4000, not 1500. Don't ask shit that you might not want to know the answer to.

Whenever I pick up a disco chick that I think I may be going out of my house with the next day then I will stop at her place and get some normal clothes after leaving the club. It embarrasses me as well to be leaving my place or out in public with a girl wearing disco clothes in broad daylight. Thanks for the great reports.[/QUOTE]I have never seen someone pick apart a perfectly good post like this before. Very interesting. Thanks for the good report and don't worry about this thing. Keep posting.

[QUOTE=JpDixx82;1763195]Hi,

I will be visiting Pattaya in mid-Sep for 2 nights /3 days.

On PM. Can some seniors here please advise me on the following places / info:

1. BJ bar (with a FS option) - girl recommendation and damages.

2. Best pick-up bar / disco. Recommendation (if available) and damages.

3. Best soapie. Recommendations and damages.

4. Best brothel (eg. Devil's Den) - recommendations and damages.

5. Best GoGo bar. Recommendations and damages.[/QUOTE]It all depends on what you understand by "best". For some of us "best" means model-quality beauty, others rather have porn-star experience, while some are looking for a sweet and cuddly girl-friend night.

All of these (and more) are available everywhere.

[QUOTE=JpDixx82;1763195]I'd be putting up at Hard Rock Hotel. So if anyone has any tips like how to take girls up to the room etc. That will also be helpful.[/QUOTE]Take the girl with you to the hotel and if necessary have her ID-card checked. Then take her up to your room. Easy as pie!

[QUOTE=JpDixx82;1763195]Anything else you may wish to point out. Will be ever grateful!

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Take it easy. Walk around and when someone strikes your fancy, go for her. Don't wait for someone "better" to come along: you are likely to have to go to your room alone.

Do as the Thai do, live for the moment. Of course, there will always be someone more beautiful, hot or friendly, but the girl in your arms will always be better than the girl you didn't get.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1763357]I have never seen someone pick apart a perfectly good post like this before. Very interesting. Thanks for the good report and don't worry about this thing. Keep posting.[/QUOTE]I see this happening alot in the German threads, it has to do with locals trying to keep the price at a specific price point. In Germany its more about guys being "generous" and tipping on top of the normal fee for said services. The idea is if too many foreigners visit the clubs and keep tipping, the girls come to expect that amount from everybody. This raises the expectations of the girls (without an increase in the service). I'm a foreigner to Germany and I understand where they are coming from, more and more girls are giving poor service and then asking for a tip when it comes time to pay. So I understand Mr E's negative comments towards a guy who obviously overpaid.

Personally I don't look at it as a knockdown of the post but as a reminder to those newbies reading the board to keep their wallets in check.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1762980]That was not a sign of anything. A Thai massage is started with you on your back. An oil massage is started with you on your stomach.

I know you are on holiday, but it seems in this instance you let your little fella do your thinking for you. At the end of this day you gave an Insomnia girl 1500 for LT so I know that you know better. You can get ST in a gentlemen's club for 1000. You can get a 90 minute soapy for 2000. At all of the sex massage places on Soi Chaiyapoon and Soi Xzyte you can get FS for 1000 or less. Remember in a place where there is no standard price to always negotiate. Personally at a regular massage place that like I will give an extra 500 baht for ST FS, whether the massage is there on premises or back at my room.

If you are talking about the old lady she is definitely a b-i. I am a regular customer (not for bar-fine) and she is still shitty to me.

But you could have gotten the farang for free. One of my best experiences was when the Ibis on Soi Nana in Bangkok was new. There was a chick there from Texas (but had been living in BKK for 10 years) who was in the hotel because her house was being painted and her forever cheating husband was out of the country on business. Besides reminding me of a Playboy bunny, she spent money on me.

She is a hooker dude. No need to decide how to approach her. Just cut to the last thing you did and tell her to leave with you. Again, there is no need to discuss money with a FL disco chick. Just give her 1000-1500 baht and tell her goodbye the next day when it is time for her to go home. She could have just as well said you owe me 4000, not 1500. Don't ask shit that you might not want to know the answer to.

Whenever I pick up a disco chick that I think I may be going out of my house with the next day then I will stop at her place and get some normal clothes after leaving the club. It embarrasses me as well to be leaving my place or out in public with a girl wearing disco clothes in broad daylight. Thanks for the great reports.[/QUOTE]While I agree on 95% of the above including not asking if paying 1500 baht is ok, and it is ok. I do think that 2000 for LT girl from insomnia / ibar is ok given that you have had great service.

My reasoning is as follow LT batgirl 2000-3000 + barfine.

LT ago go: 2000-4000 plus a big bar fine.

LT freelancer on BR: 1500-2500.

Then if I were to be on the generous side without being a chump, 1500-2000 LT is an ok price.

Plus and this is personal preference I like to keep my relationships good with them. My rule is unless you feel you are getting robbed don't argue too much about money.

Last point regarding keeping prices low, like you said that would apply to the transactions p4 p, bar girls go gos and such but a girl from insomnia won't argue because like you said she might say you owe me 4000 in that case you will kick her out. But since they take whatever you give them just be nice. There is no threshold price for a club girl.

So I just got back from Pattaya and thought I would try to give people heading over an indication of prices and the current state of play etc.

Firstly, I am a former Thai expat with a GF in Pattaya so I didn't indulge (much) and I was with a friend who was a first time visitor so I wanted to show him as much as possible.

Observations: things have changed a bit since I was here last with a few gogo's closed and some new ones opened. Things seemed a lot more sedate than usual.

Also, as it was off season many bars were mostly empty, especially the beer bars on Soi 7 and in the that general area.

Off season is good and bad. Good because girls are friendlier and you get more attention. Bad because the best girls have gone home and you get lots of Chinese tourists wandering walking street, taking stupid pictures and huddled like sheep besides some dude with a flag. Why don't they tether themselves together so they don't get lost, poor dears.

Fav gogo: Spanky's. Great girls, great attitude, just a relaxed gogo without too much pressure or be. S. I also liked Heaven above, Happy, and Iron and Alcatraz had some hot girls. Generally, I stick to the Soi's and leave the bars on walking street alone.

Least fav gogo: I really didn't like gentleman's club. You walk in, some mutt automatically sits next to you and the waitress is telling you to buy her a drink. Fuck off! I can pick my own companion thanks. Even when you ignore them, they go on with the usually crap questions so ignoring them makes you appear like an asshole. But if you do engage them in conversation you get the mamasan asking you the barfine question. And worst of all, they water down the drinks (my vodka-soda was weak as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]) - avoid this place!

Most outrageous gogo: windmill. No contest. Sure the girls are mostly unattractive but in what other gogo these days can you buy a girl a drink and have her fire the ice cube from her box into your drink? Or have her fuck your beer bottle or present her hole to your face for your use? The guy next to us at the bar was eating out the dancer on stage in between buying her drinks and the guy behind at a table had 3 fingers inside another girl while being encouraged to get the whole hand in. Seriously, this was like x-bar back years ago when girls put your mobile phone inside their snatch for your mate to call up. Crazy fun bar that was full of dirty girls and horny punters.

Fav club: I-bar, no contest. Hot girls, good music, just plain fun place. The hotties had the usual snobby attitude and there weren't so many uni students as I have seen before but still good fun. Lucifer was second. Gravity 7 still rock and the led singer Koii is still hot (shame she is gay!) LOL.

As for the disco's: Mix is hit and miss. Go early for the better girls cause after 3 am it resembles a kennel. Marine. Still full of ladyboys. I went to the other one near Marine (can't remember name) but it was dead.

Beach road: I'm a big fan of freelancers. Beach road has improved with lots of hotties. Maybe because Bamboo is so dead and Stones is so small, girls seem to migrate here. Anyway, lots of variety as usual but not so busy in the afternoon. I saw Police doing one sweep. So funny to see 50 girls in high heels suddenly start running.

Prices: Most gogo's have bar fines of between 600-800 with short time of 2000. Seemed a uniform price. Of course, if you take late then s. T will likely be overnight for no extra but as always treat the girl well and she will likely want to stay.

Beach road: 500 - 1000 S. T / 1200 - 1500 L. T. all highly neg depending on how desperate the girl is are. Lots of Indians trying to organised gang bangs. Funny to watch actually.

Massage girls: I'm a big fan of in room massage. Massage + boom boom inc oral = 800 - 1500 depending on the girl and time of night. Bargain hard with these girls.

Apps: wechat is becoming big in Thailand and is used by many working girls, especially ladyboys offering services. Even seemingly normal women are offering pay for play services on wechat. To find them, go to 'discover', 'people nearby' and you will get a list. Badoo is useful for finding girls as is Thai friendly but both are a little time consuming and the girls not as reliable. 1000-1500 for part time F. L's (s. T).

Other all: my mate enjoyed himself with a few cuties from gogo's and I enjoyed flirting with the girls even though I didn't take many.

One girl stood out: I met her on beach road (can't remember her name) but she had a handbag full of different sized condoms. She's very attractive with long frizzy hair, great english, and too honest for her own good. If you meet her you will recognize her. She was one of those girls you meet and you instantly know she doesn't belong. But then again, finding little gems is part of the fun in hunting F. L's.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1763357]I have never seen someone pick apart a perfectly good post like this before. Very interesting. Thanks for the good report and don't worry about this thing. Keep posting.[/QUOTE]I thought the exact same thing. There are ways of getting your point across with tact.

Is there any Russian / European massage parlor in Pattaya which provides FS?

[QUOTE=AlexanderViv;1763861]Is there any Russian / European massage parlor in Pattaya which provides FS?[/QUOTE]To Alexander.

I saw a hot tall Urkain girl last week at the Rasputan sauna last week they want 7000 bht for one HR without body massage, there are 3 other russian girl in there for 6000 bht that is the only one massage place I know that have European.

Fast eddie 48.

Started the night at the Hot Tuna Bar for some rock'and'roll, then made my way to Happy Go-Go bar. They have these girls that wear pretty beige dresses, and one of them sat next to me. We started talking and I offered her a lady drink. She says they go out like the other girls, they are not coyote, but they just do not dance. They talk. She was a pretty good talker, to be fair. It's a new concept I had never come across before.

Anyway, I did not barfine her, and instead walked over to the I-bar (upstairs). It was just before midnight so the San Miguel Light was still cheap. I did not see anything I fancied, so I took the back staircase to sample the ground-level Insomnia bar. Much more activity, especially near the water.

I walked past a table with two hot chicks, a sure sign they were on the take. One of them was hot and caught my eye. Normally I would be shy and not approach, but this being Pattaya I said to myself what the heck and opened the hot one with something lame. This being Pattaya, of course, the natural course of events in the Western world, which would be me getting blown out, didn't happen, and she invited me to chat with her instead. She told me her name was Ghee, she lived in Bangkok, and was going back to Isaan next week. After a while some dude came over and spoke with her, trying to steal her from me under my nose. She chatted all of 2 minutes and then blew him off. I had won a face-off! Just to not come across as overly desperate I chatted up the other girl, who was more plain but looked like she actually had a day job.

I offered Ghee 2000 Baht and we walked to the Oasis motel. She had quite substantial tits, and nice curves for an optimal hip-to-waist ratio. Her hair was dyed blonde. She put on some music videos on the television and we started fucking after the shower. I had no idea in the bar, but once the clothes came off she was a real sl*t ("une authentique salope" as they say in French). She had a tongue piercing and gave me a sensual BBBJ with delightfully sexy eye contact. She had a small sl*t mark, a. K. a. A tattoo, on the back of her left shoulder, which looked like the traces left by the nails of a man who had savagely scratched her. I bet she likes that.

I fucked her in all the positions I knew, which is not many, and then turned off the TV because it was distracting me. After I came I paid her 2000 Baht.

With her tits bulging out of her dress, her very small piercing in one nostril, and her dyed-blonde hair, there were some sl*t tells, but I was too dumb to notice them in the bar. But it's nice every once in a while to stumble upon a girl who loves to fuck and please her man. One more good experience from Insomnia to add to a long list for me. This is the most reliable source of non-starfish experiences for me in Pattaya. I wouldn't repeat the girl, but I definitely will repeat the bar.

If she has a tongue piercing and gave you BBBJ, don't you think you are at a very very high risk for some very dangerous STD's?

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1764058]Started the night at the Hot Tuna Bar for some rock'and'roll, then made my way to Happy Go-Go bar. They have these girls that wear pretty beige dresses, and one of them sat next to me. We started talking and I offered her a lady drink. She says they go out like the other girls, they are not coyote, but they just do not dance. They talk. She was a pretty good talker, to be fair. It's a new concept I had never come across before.

Anyway, I did not barfine her, and instead walked over to the I-bar (upstairs). It was just before midnight so the San Miguel Light was still cheap. I did not see anything I fancied, so I took the back staircase to sample the ground-level Insomnia bar. Much more activity, especially near the water.

I walked past a table with two hot chicks, a sure sign they were on the take. One of them was hot and caught my eye. Normally I would be shy and not approach, but this being Pattaya I said to myself what the heck and opened the hot one with something lame. This being Pattaya, of course, the natural course of events in the Western world, which would be me getting blown out, didn't happen, and she invited me to chat with her instead..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1764090]If she has a tongue piercing and gave you BBBJ, don't you think you are at a very very high risk for some very dangerous STD's?[/QUOTE]Interesting point. Never crossed my mind, really. Maybe I'm too naive or innocent. The skin of my dick did not have its integrity breached, so I guess it would have fulfilled its protective role as it was designed to.

Scientifically speaking, I can agree that oral piercing is a co-factor raising the probability getting STD's from oral sex, but I just do not know by how much. My hunch is that it is not "very very high" unless she makes you bleed with her piercing. Which is relatively unlikely given that her objective is to get paid for providing pleasure, not pain.