American Politics

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2989576]You've totally overlooked the worst part Axel. That intern was fat and ugly! The leader of the free world was getting blow jobs from a fat, ugly, intern! How could Clinton go head to head with someone like Vladimir Putin after that? The USA has never been so disgraced.[/QUOTE]For the most part I prefer high quality lookers and I am willing to pay up for it. Evidence: I love Macua Sauna "emperor model" girls, BKK Soapie girls like I used to find in (now deceased) the Lord, and currently I am enamored with smokin' hot Brazilian FL's in Scandallo nightclub / bordello in Sao Paulo. But occasionally I like to go slumming. HaHaHa. There is something about it that turns me on especially when an ordinary looking girl is able to turn me on in bed. You ever been to Pattaya, Tiny? They have Go Go's like Pin Up with lots of hot girls. It is kinda expensive, but totally worth it when you find the right girl, but on the same trip I might find a 5. 5 * girl in a gentlemen's club who throws me a certain sexy smile and away we go. I am sure that Bill saw something in Monica that turned him on. And how in the world could any red-blooded punter conceive that a young girl would save her cum stained dress as a souvenir. Bill was a punter. One of us. I liked him but hated his friggin' wife. I think he probably felt the same way. I mean Hillary, what a shrew. 555.

Hey Newton, your post made me laugh. 555. Yes, I can almost imagine what it felt like to get blow job's from an adoring, wide-eyed intern. See my previous post on shagging average looking girls. 555. Clinton could have had his pick of hot Hollywood actresses and probably did, but Monica baby turned him on as well plus doing it in the oval office. Yeah, man, that's punting! No rational explanation for it sometimes. The mind is a sexual organ.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2989580]I don't know fellas, I'm pretty desperate, Monica Lewinsky in her 20's looked kinda attractive. I probably would pay money to get a blowjob from her in a Bahnofvierstel type brothel place, but if she was giving it out for free, so much the better.

Besides, it's not about her looks, it's about having the power to have a somewhat attractive chick give you a blowjob, just cause. And she's one of the few cases we know of. I'm sure the dude had way hotter chicks blow him. I bet every president has. Why wouldn't they? Yes, money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac, but so is power.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2989654]You mean like the build back better? Or all the billions paid out for car charging stations and putting up only 1 new station? Or telling everyone they had to have Teslas by 2034 and everybody cheering, but after losing the race those same cheerers trying to destroy the Tesla brand and literally the dealerships?

Yes Biden was the candidate, but after bullshitting people so long and no longer being able to hide that he was not in his right mind, they decided to abandon his ass. He showed them though by endorsing Headboard Harris before they could put forward a suitable candidate. How does someone go from being forced out of the race due to having only 8% of poll numbers and no money in the previous primary to being god's gift to the country? They don't. But the party was painted into a corner by Biden's endorsement and not being able to use the money previously raised had they chosen someone that was not already on the ticket.

They had a choice of bullshit in one hand and horseshit in the other. They decided to rally around the woke and DEI shit (how Harris ended up as the VP pick in the first place), not realizing most Americans are tired of it being forced on them. But they still have not learned their lesson, because they continue to double down on what the majority has made clear they do not want.[/QUOTE]Well, I guess it's just shit to the left and shit to the right and shit all over then isn't it? That makes it a good time for me to be punting in Brazil!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2989654]You mean like the build back better? Or all the billions paid out for car charging stations and putting up only 1 new station? Or telling everyone they had to have Teslas by 2034 and everybody cheering, but after losing the race those same cheerers trying to destroy the Tesla brand and literally the dealerships?

Yes Biden was the candidate, but after bullshitting people so long and no longer being able to hide that he was not in his right mind, they decided to abandon his ass. He showed them though by endorsing Headboard Harris before they could put forward a suitable candidate. How does someone go from being forced out of the race due to having only 8% of poll numbers and no money in the previous primary to being god's gift to the country? They don't. But the party was painted into a corner by Biden's endorsement and not being able to use the money previously raised had they chosen someone that was not already on the ticket.

They had a choice of bullshit in one hand and horseshit in the other. They decided to rally around the woke and DEI shit (how Harris ended up as the VP pick in the first place), not realizing most Americans are tired of it being forced on them. But they still have not learned their lesson, because they continue to double down on what the majority has made clear they do not want.[/QUOTE][B]Trump Misleads on the Cost of Electric Vehicle Chargers.
Posted on August 16, 2024 | Updated on December 9, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-misleads-on-the-cost-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/[/URL]

[QUOTE]In recent speeches, former President Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed that the Biden administration has spent $9 billion to build only eight electric vehicle charging stations or even, just eight chargers. Thats not accurate.

Trump is likely referring to $7.5 billion approved by Congress to help build a network of EV chargers across the U.S. over five years. But not all of the money has been spent, or even made available to states yet. Experts say the funds are expected to help build thousands of charging stations and more than 30,000 individual charging ports.

According to the Federal Highway Administration, as of mid-August, the funds that have been deployed have helped produce 61 charging ports at 15 stations, with another 14,900 ports in progress.

Update, Dec. 9: As of Dec. 9, federal funds have been used to complete 226 charging ports at 37 stations across 13 states, with more than 24,000 ports in progress, according to an FHWA spokesperson. We asked the FHWA for the most recent information after Rep. Michael Rulli claimed on X that Pete Buttigieg will leave his post as Transportation Secretary having spent $7.5 BILLION to build 8 EV charging stations. A spokesperson for FHWA told us Rullis claim is not true.[/QUOTE]See link for more.

General Rules of Thumb:

If Trump says it there is 100% chance it is not true.

If Fux News spends more than 30 seconds reporting it there is 99.9% chance it is not true.

Newton, SubCmdr and Axel, You make compelling arguments. I have to admit that when I was younger, I was God's Gift to Fat Women. And in more recent times, yes, if I were in a diddling bar in Bangkok or a strip club in the USA, I might have actually paid, or at least given a tip, for what Bill got for free.

My question, should we expect a higher standard from the President of the United States than we demand of ourselves? I say hell yes! JFK was smuggling Marilyn Monroe and other assorted beauties into the White House. Now that's something to be proud of if you're an American!

Axel, to answer your question, I've never been to Pattaya. But yes, otherwise, been there, done that.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2989713][B]Trump Misleads on the Cost of Electric Vehicle Chargers.
Posted on August 16, 2024 | Updated on December 9, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/trump-misleads-on-the-cost-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/[/URL]

See link for more.

General Rules of Thumb:

If Trump says it there is 100% chance it is not true.

If Fux News spends more than 30 seconds reporting it there is 99.9% chance it is not true.[/QUOTE]True that, but I have no interest in wasting a lot of time responding to Mr. E, or anybody else up in here for that matter. Thinking I want to try to change their minds hahahaha! It's more than a waste of time. It's a waste of life LOL!

Great post MR. E. I admire your succinct way of getting straight to the point.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2989654]You mean like the build back better? Or all the billions paid out for car charging stations and putting up only 1 new station? Or telling everyone they had to have Teslas by 2034 and everybody cheering, but after losing the race those same cheerers trying to destroy the Tesla brand and literally the dealerships?

Yes Biden was the candidate, but after bullshitting people so long and no longer being able to hide that he was not in his right mind, they decided to abandon his ass. He showed them though by endorsing Headboard Harris before they could put forward a suitable candidate. How does someone go from being forced out of the race due to having only 8% of poll numbers and no money in the previous primary to being god's gift to the country? They don't. But the party was painted into a corner by Biden's endorsement and not being able to use the money previously raised had they chosen someone that was not already on the ticket..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2989654]You mean like the build back better? Or all the billions paid out for car charging stations and putting up only 1 new station? Or telling everyone they had to have Teslas by 2034 and everybody cheering, but after losing the race those same cheerers trying to destroy the Tesla brand and literally the dealerships?[/QUOTE]

What, you mean like your American Fuhrer just shamefully did, by promoting the White House lawn as a makeshift Tesla dealership, as he pretends to "supposedly buy" a Tesla EV from Musk?

I wonder, if he paid for it, what taxpayers, dollars? No doubt!

Was this the sign MAGA nation, you've all been waiting for, to buy that EV? I mean now that you've been given the permission to take a EV fart, from the Fuhrer...go ahead! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2989655]Bi-partisan historians had 2 shots at assessing Trump's presidency, once right at the end of the horror and national disgrace in 2021 and another in 2024 after they'd had time to give it more thought and factor in Biden's presidency.

Conclusion? His ranking went from "Among the worst in USA history" to "THE Worst President in USA History.

[B]Historians rank Trump among worst presidents in US history, new C-SPAN survey shows.
June 30, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/historians-rank-trump-among-worst-presidents-us-history-c-span-2021-6[/URL]

[B]Historians rank Trump as worst president.
Feb. 19, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th[/URL]

Obama #7.

Clinton #12.

Biden #14.

Reagan #16.

Trump #45 Dead Last.

Yeah, I'm going with the fact that these historians know a hell of a lot more about what Trump and Biden did and didn't accomplish than anyone posting on this site.

LOL. Seriously, can even the most devoted Trump Cult Followers here doubt for one minute that a bi-partisan group of historians would rank Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term as anything other than The Worst Presidency of All Time On Any Planet At Any Time Past, Present And Future even if it came to a complete halt at the 54 day mark? LOL.

Come on A. H. , Tiny, Elvis. 'Fess up. Lolol.[/QUOTE]If it's at all possible, I'm betting he'll actually beat he record for #45 and the absolute WORST PRESIDENT in USA HISTORY, this term! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

Tiny 12, morbid idea of the lesser of two evils, indeed. It is like choosing between a paper cut and a shark bite, both suck, are extremely annoying and its not even a contest, but if Tiny 12, had to choose, it seems he'd still rather have the shark bite [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]


[b]PS:[/b] BTW, a past post of his, did seem to mention something about, "with a gun to the head, he'd still...", so there you go, Tiny 12, always one for hyperbole!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2989655]Bi-partisan historians had 2 shots at assessing Trump's presidency, once right at the end of the horror and national disgrace in 2021 and another in 2024 after they'd had time to give it more thought and factor in Biden's presidency.

Conclusion? His ranking went from "Among the worst in USA history" to "THE Worst President in USA History.

[B]Historians rank Trump among worst presidents in US history, new C-SPAN survey shows.
June 30, 2021[/B].[/QUOTE]You know they can. And will, LOL.

Nope. It is all Trump, all the time.

[B]Consumers are starting to crack as tariffs add to inflation, recession concerns[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/14/delta-walmart-warn-about-consumer-spending-amid-tariffs-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Its not just Walmart.

The leaders of companies that serve everyone from penny-pinching grocery shoppers to first-class travelers are seeing cracks in demand, a shift after resilient consumers propped up the U.S. economy for years despite prolonged inflation. On top of high interest rates and persistent inflation, CEOs are now grappling with how to handle new hurdles like on-again, off-again tariffs, mass government layoffs and worsening consumer sentiment.

Across earnings calls and investor presentations in recent weeks, retailers and other consumer-facing businesses warned that first-quarter sales were coming in softer than expected and the rest of the year might be tougher than Wall Street thought. Many of the executives blamed unseasonably cool weather and a dynamic macroeconomic environment, but the early days of President Donald Trumps second term have brought new challenges perhaps none greater than trying to plan a global business at a time when his administration shifts its trade policies by the hour..[/QUOTE]If Joe Biden had ever spouted as much blithering, blathering, incoherent nonsense as Trump and President Musk have been spouting since the election with the exact same economic turmoil and crippling uncertainty that has resulted, the liars who have repeatedly misrepresented Biden's clear cognitive capacity superiority to Trump at any age and right up to this very day might have a valid point.

But he never did and they don't.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2989654]You mean like the build back better? Or all the billions paid out for car charging stations and putting up only 1 new station? Or telling everyone they had to have Teslas by 2034 and everybody cheering, but after losing the race those same cheerers trying to destroy the Tesla brand and literally the dealerships?

Yes Biden was the candidate, but after bullshitting people so long and no longer being able to hide that he was not in his right mind, they decided to abandon his ass. He showed them though by endorsing Headboard Harris before they could put forward a suitable candidate. How does someone go from being forced out of the race due to having only 8% of poll numbers and no money in the previous primary to being god's gift to the country? They don't. But the party was painted into a corner by Biden's endorsement and not being able to use the money previously raised had they chosen someone that was not already on the ticket.

They had a choice of bullshit in one hand and horseshit in the other. They decided to rally around the woke and DEI shit (how Harris ended up as the VP pick in the first place), not realizing most Americans are tired of it being forced on them. But they still have not learned their lesson, because they continue to double down on what the majority has made clear they do not want.[/QUOTE]Go through a few pages of this thread and you'll see all the great legislative accomplishments that Tooms believes Democrats are responsible for. The only one I recall agreeing with him about was the Civil Rights Act of 1964. And a much higher percentage of Republicans voted for that than Democrats. If Tooms wet dream were a reality back then, and there were 100 Democratic Senators, we might just be still living in an apartheid state. You needed a 2/3 rds vote then to defeat a filibuster, and Texan President LBJ and Senate President Hubert Humphrey had to do a lot of arm twisting to get the legislation passed because of intransigent Democrats.

You could correctly argue that the Democratic and Republican parties then are very different from the parties today. And that's true. But Tooms is not allowed to make that argument. That's because he conveniently goes back to Herbert Hoover to argue Republican presidents produce inferior economic results. And back to Lincoln to show that the number of young American men killed isn't much, much larger for wars that started under Democratic presidents.

And yes, as to your points, Biden's "great" accomplishments were mostly pork and handouts.

Edit: Oops, you were replying to Cane, not EihTooms. Oh well, its funner arguing with Tooms

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2989534]Kindly leave Elvis out of your assessment. Intelligence and a cult membership -- well, I can't connect the dots, sorry.[/QUOTE]This from the guy calling Arabs living in Gaza "Palestinians" and Russian soldiers "orcs". When you dehumanize your fellow man, you are the one in the cult.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2989534]Now, what Axel believes is not something I care about. Unlike religious faith that doesn't require a proof, personal beliefs that contradict the obvious are also an opposite to intelligence, IMHO. The facts that Trump is an insurrectionist, asset of a foreign power, autocratic bafoon, convicted felon, serial liar, immoral narcissist, crooked businessman and greedy profiteer have been well-known, well-established and, in some cases, proven in a court of law. How can -- again -- intelligent people think ALL THAT was a "lesser evil" than Kamala Harris is way way way beyond me.

So no, you haven't explained anything. And no, Trump's falling in love with a mass-murdering monster WAS NOT a good thing either.[/QUOTE]This degree of name calling is going to make Spidy blush.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2989655]Bi-partisan historians had 2 shots at assessing Trump's presidency, once right at the end of the horror and national disgrace in 2021 and another in 2024 after they'd had time to give it more thought and factor in Biden's presidency.

Conclusion? His ranking went from "Among the worst in USA history" to "THE Worst President in USA History.

[B]Historians rank Trump among worst presidents in US history, new C-SPAN survey shows.
June 30, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/historians-rank-trump-among-worst-presidents-us-history-c-span-2021-6[/URL]

[B]Historians rank Trump as worst president.
Feb. 19, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th[/URL]

Obama #7.

Clinton #12.

Biden #14.

Reagan #16.

Trump #45 Dead Last.

Yeah, I'm going with the fact that these historians know a hell of a lot more about what Trump and Biden did and didn't accomplish than anyone posting on this site.

LOL. Seriously, can even the most devoted Trump Cult Followers here doubt for one minute that a bi-partisan group of historians would rank Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term as anything other than The Worst Presidency of All Time On Any Planet At Any Time Past, Present And Future even if it came to a complete halt at the 54 day mark? LOL.

Come on A. H. , Tiny, Elvis. 'Fess up. Lolol.[/QUOTE]The historians surveyed probably were mostly academics in liberal arts who have the same biases you do. I call bull shit on it. Ronald Reagan and Calvin Coolidge aren't even in the top 10. Obama at #7 is rated higher than they are. I can't think of anything big and really good he did besides getting us out of Iraq. Obamacare may have improved health care for many, but it also doubled down on a failed health care system that costs much more and produces worse outcomes compared to other developed countries.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2989580]I don't know fellas, I'm pretty desperate, Monica Lewinsky in her 20's looked kinda attractive. I probably would pay money to get a blowjob from her in a Bahnofvierstel type brothel place, but if she was giving it out for free, so much the better.

Besides, it's not about her looks, it's about having the power to have a somewhat attractive chick give you a blowjob, just cause. And she's one of the few cases we know of. I'm sure the dude had way hotter chicks blow him. I bet every president has. Why wouldn't they? Yes, money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac, but so is power.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it really changed things for me. Clinton gets a BJ. First, Monica gets a "job" for $40,000 a year not because she is qualified but because one of Clinton's supporters whisks her away. Linda Tripp tried to use this information to advance her way up the government ladder. I wonder how many Linda Tripps there are in government right now.

Bill Clinton has been put through absolute hell. He is impeached, made fun of, crucified, but hangs on. Lewinsky then gets a $2 million Weight Watchers deal. She was giving TED talks about shame and embarrassment and probably getting paid to do so. She shows her ass to Clinton before the BJs and was with an older man before Clinton. My own mother and God knows how many other women called what Clinton did "child abuse".

The entire basis for Clinton being under oath was being sued by Paula Jones, and it is because she did not advance in government, even though she did, after Clinton came onto her. After the Monica incident comes out, her lawsuit is settled and she gets like $700,000.

Hiliary Clinton, whom everyone knows knew about Clinton's affairs, never polled higher than when she called the attack on Clinton's morals a "vast right wing conspiracy". The sympathy for her after what Bill had done propelled her to a USA senate seat and with that momentum, she almost flew into the presidency.

Trump pays $140,000 to a porn star and the porn star and a sleaze bag lawyer are shoved into the limelight by the Dems, and the woman is sued by Trump and loses and the lawyer ends up in jail. E. Jean Carroll gets a $83 million verdict against Trump for sexual assault and not rape, and this and the criminal hush money case actually work to Trump's favor.

The Republicans used Paula Jones and apparently she sounded so stupid that they would not let her talk. The Democrats let E. Jean Carroll talk and you could see Cooper Anderson literally looking at her like she was nuts. George Stephanopoulos was harassing a Republican rape victim for supporting Trump, and she did not come out it say what was on everyone's mind, "George, this E. Jean Carroll woman is a lying fool. I was really raped. ".

I am not sure Trump gets elected if the Lewinsky thing does not happen. It is a little hard to take any guy being as pro "woman" as Spidy is, and Tooms is like asking what waste there is in government. You look at all the women listed above, and is there any of them in this entire web who thought hard work and competence were the keys to getting ahead (no pun intended) in the world? It seems to me there is a helluva lot more money in shaming men than doing a good job.

This is where I think the other nations of the world are laughing at us. American men have been so pussified.