Monterrey

[QUOTE=Precocious One]
Keep in mind that I am a younger guy, speak passable Spanish, somewhat attractive and in excellent physical shape which may be attributable to my positive outlook on Monterrey mongering, both pro and non-pro. For some of us here, GFE(when a girl permits herself to orgasm when you are inside of here) can happen on the very first encounter.[/QUOTE]

Wow I wish I was a such a ladies man like you who make the ladies all purr on the first encounter. I'd never seen GFE defined that way.

AmigoMio is an incredible resource for the scene in Monterrey and always enjoy his posts as well as being able to hit the bars with him when I'm in town.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]Wow I wish I was a such a ladies man like you who make the ladies all purr on the first encounter. I'd never seen GFE defined that way.

AmigoMio is an incredible resource for the scene in Monterrey and always enjoy his posts as well as being able to hit the bars with him when I'm in town.[/QUOTE]How in the world did you perversely construe my statement in regards to the Monterrey sex scene which consisted of, "For some of us here, GFE(when a girl permits herself to orgasm when you are inside of her) can happen on the very first encounter," to me thinking that I am "such a ladies man," "who make the ladies all purr"?

Super Gato, are you trying to say that you have never had a service provider have an orgasm with you on the very first encounter?

No, I am not a self-proclaimed "ladies man" and if you read my 230+ posts you will see that I am also not the kind of guy who comes onto an anonymous sexsite and brags about himself. I have physically described myself here strictly in defense and those that have met me know that the description is valid and have never disputed it.

And, if you thoroughly read the post that you are making reference to, you will clearly see that I said "can" as opposed to "all" regarding service providers and GFE on the very first encounter. And yes, GFE to me is only when a girl finishes, which they may only do on three or four seperate occasions with you before they show you the door as most do not want to continually put out that kind of effort or the initial physical attraction simply wears off. Many other guys define GFE within the same context. Believe me, I am not the first nor will I be the last. The female orgasm, when you are inside of her, is the ultimate form of GFE.

Also, if you have been reading the Monterrey thread, you should already know that the only self-proclaimed "ladies man" here is your buddy, Amigomio. Just re-read posts 1567, 1634, 1636 and 1679 of this same thread. After you read it, I think that you will agree. I still can't figure out with all these girls that he proclaims to have why he ultimately ends up at all those 100-200 peso casa de citas(post 1748) to pay for sex.

PS

By the way, I do agree with you that Amigomio is a very good resource here for visiting mongers and his map is actually famous. And, it's great that you're friends with him.

It just so happens that he and I don't get along and that's the reason why it's best we don't interact. He just won't let it go, whatever it is he is holding onto.

GFE is an emotional investment given by the girl, to enhance the overall experience. I don't believe it can be measured solely by the delivery of orgasm, which is simply a mechanical technique properly applied. GFE is something felt by the male, resulting directly from the female's emotional investment in the encounter.

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]GFE is an emotional investment given by the girl, to enhance the overall experience. I don't believe it can be measured solely by the delivery of orgasm, which is simply a mechanical technique properly applied. GFE is something felt by the male, resulting directly from the female's emotional investment in the encounter.[/QUOTE]

That's always been my working definition. A woman's orgasm isn't as purely mechanical as a dude's orgasm, most women tend to come vaginally when they're more emotionally invested in a guy. Although with civilians I will do all I can for her to come. When it is p4p, I'm more concerned about my getting off first and foremost. She's getting paid; if gets off then that's her propina. Not to say I'm not treating her well during our time together. But ultimately, it is a business transaction.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]That's always been my working definition. A woman's orgasm isn't as purely mechanical as a dude's orgasm, most women tend to come vaginally when they're more emotionally invested in a guy. Although with civilians I will do all I can for her to come. When it is p4p, I'm more concerned about my getting off first and foremost. She's getting paid; if gets off then that's her propina. Not to say I'm not treating her well during our time together. But ultimately, it is a business transaction.[/QUOTE]


My point exactly. All non-pro GF's are emotionally invested and a women's internal orgasm, by and large, is an emotional investment. That is why many of us here believe that a service provider's orgasm, when you are inside of her, is the pinnacle of success in regards to GFE.

I had a new girl last week that I met at an MP that told me straight-out that she was not going to DFK with me, the mandatory prescience for GFE. I asked her seven times, in succession, "Yo quiero besarte." Whenever she tried to say something to me or refute my advances, "Yo quiero besarte." On my eighth attempt she gave up the DFK.

And then she gave up the GFE.

The GFE was all over my stomach(MISH), running down her leg, and onto the bedsheet. Awesome. Incredible. Victory.

I returned two days later(I don't f_ck around when it comes to GFE) and once inside of the room she specifically told me that there was going to be no more DFK and no more GFE. It was a one time thing and she doesn't provide that service to her clients.

She refunded my money(I elected to not partake in her services), I kissed her on the cheek for providing me the GFE for that one and only time, and I was out the door.

This is what guys that share the same definition of GFE as myself are up against here in Monterrey.

Allday.

Everyday.

Her orgasm is not the measure by which one receives GFE. GFE is an emotional reaction to us, and not a physical one. It does not surprise me that GFE is not encountered, therefore, on subsequent visits.

Girls do not want to lose physical control at the expense of their emotional well being, which is paramount to all females, even pros. That's why many pros withhold GFE, and perform only in the physical sense.

They are perfectly willing to experience the physical pleasure of orgasm, but they refuse to even kiss us on the lips, just further evidence that their state of mind with respect to having physical sex with us is separate from their emotional side, they separating the act of sex in their minds from their emotional side, represented to them in the form of kissing, further evidence that orgasm does not necessarily translate into defining GFE.

There have been so many girls that have orgasmed, and I forgot about them five minutes after the door hit them in the butt on the way out, strictly mechanical sex, nothing special...I mean, we males always cum, right?

Whereas, there are a number of others that did not orgasm, but I remember them vividly as GFE. I repeat with them often, whether they orgasm or not.

I can get mechanical sex anywhere, and watch them orgasm, shutter, and shiver, all day long...

GFE, on the other hand, is significantly less common, and significantly more important to my overall satisfaction, which is, afterall, the object of the game, verdad? And, if I work at it with genuine sincerity, focusing mostly on emotional things, the GFE just keeps getting better and better. The affection, the kissing, the hugs, el carino, and the orgasms follow with increased frequency as the cost continues to go down, and the amount of time spent by them goes up. GFE, by that definition, is the goal of my endeavors.

Many options, many ways life turns.

My 2 cents: We as individuals look for a certain kind of girl that will fullfill our wishes and fit what we are paying for too.

In my specific case I will look for girls that kiss and will like to have orgasms and have such an experience that when they see me walking again into the SC or MP I can see them grinning and thinking that they will once again have fun with me.

Ok, that's me.

There is no rule of thumb here.

In my case Iam 50 years old and I have never ever had so many GFs running around, more than I can remember even when I was 30 or 40.

But still, being 50 it makes me be twice, triple or cuadruple as carfull as in not to lose them to younger guys, which is the mayor threat here.

Case in point, I had a distinguished monger from an other forum in Mty a couple of weeks ago.

This guy is 30 with Easter Europe genes, which made him stand out all over the places I took him too.

A girl at Casino just fell for him on the spot, literally on the spot in such a way that she told me that she would charge him 500 pesos to see him outside the club (when a girl says she charges him half the regular rate, that means that once out of sight, it will be free) and when the guy jokingly said if she wanted to go to Mexico City for the weekend, in a split second she answered YES!!!.

There is no rule of thumb.

But one thing is true: If the girls put an act, we as customers must put an act by ourselves. One that surpasses them.

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Her orgasm is not the measure by which one receives GFE. GFE is an emotional reaction to us, and not a physical one. It does not surprise me that GFE is not encountered, therefore, on subsequent visits.

Girls do not want to lose physical control at the expense of their emotional well being, which is paramount to all females, even pros. That's why many pros withhold GFE, and perform only in the physical sense.

They are perfectly willing to experience the physical pleasure of orgasm, but they refuse to even kiss us on the lips, just further evidence that their state of mind with respect to having physical sex with us is separate from their emotional side, they separating the act of sex in their minds from their emotional side, represented to them in the form of kissing, further evidence that orgasm does not necessarily translate into defining GFE.

There have been so many girls that have orgasmed, and I forgot about them five minutes after the door hit them in the butt on the way out, strictly mechanical sex, nothing special...I mean, we males always cum, right?

Whereas, there are a number of others that did not orgasm, but I remember them vividly as GFE. I repeat with them often, whether they orgasm or not. I can get mechanical sex anywhere, and watch them orgasm, shutter, and shiver, all day long...GFE, on the other hand, is significantly less common, and significantly more important to my overall satisfaction, which is, afterall, the object of the game, verdad?

On another note,
Amigomio is surpassing me in the number of posts...uhmmmm, don't know if like that. :-))) Just joking "C."[/QUOTE]

Strip Club Updates.

Givenchy has permantly closed.
The Old Givenchy has been merged with the Infinito to use the stage as a third one, making Infinito an enormous club now.

Partenon is still the same ugly club as always, but together with Tangalay, both have benefited of the closing of both Old and New Givenchys.

Partenon still has the same setting, a 3 pronged stage, old style tables, smelly booths, but the girl manifest is impressive.
Tons of girls, not many to my liking (we Mexicans have engrained in our genes a caste system that sees the kind of girls working here as bottom of the barrel kind) but anyway, tons of options.

And cheap salida/barfine too.

One thing is true about all the big medium priced clubs like Casino, Bahamas, Pasarelas, Harem, Infinito and Partenon.
All are boasting lineups of 40-50 girls now.

Incredible.

Woody, this is my Monterrey map:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=111503405859056842911.0004453c3d2b791e9f99a&ll=25.682762,-100.310926&spn=0.042388,0.068836&z=14&om=0[/url]

It's a Google map I've been composing.
Includes MPs, SCs and hotels (Sheraton included).

One thing is that it seems you haven't been to Monterrey.
Monterrey is a big city, with no Red Zone.

As you see in the map, everything is spread all over.

Check it out and if you have any questions, please ask them.



[QUOTE=Woody53]Thanks for the hint Amigo mio. Sheraton looks good.

I've read a lot of posts, but I didn't find much advice where to go. So were to start? Other web sources don't give advice either. Is there a red light area. (like Bangkok or Pattaya?)

Thanks again,

Woody[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]There have been so many girls that have orgasmed, and I forgot about them five minutes after the door hit them in the butt on the way out, strictly mechanical sex, nothing special...I mean, we males always cum, right?

Whereas, there are a number of others that did not orgasm, but I remember them vividly as GFE. I repeat with them often, whether they orgasm or not.

I can get mechanical sex anywhere, and watch them orgasm, shutter, and shiver, all day long...
[/QUOTE]

Whether she comes or not my number one criteria is her enthusiasm and what she puts into my orgasm. Just like a good girlfriend would do. Again, if she's a civilian I'm going to go out of my way to make her see god.

My current Nuevolaredense favorita gives me a great PSE every time. Her energy and enthusiasm and he desire to get me off is how she gets my repeat business (and her smoking hot body and looks). She often comes as well but I never forget that she's in the room to collect the pesos I leave on her dresser. She knows I act as a gentleman (versus the kids in her age group) and treat her like a lady and she'll often get off with me, but her investment in me is because doesn't want to lose me to her sisters in the club (not really a worry lately has she is far and away the hottest girl... and her sister does literally work in the same club but not nearly as hot...now her prima, that's another story). She knows I poke other girls when I'm in town and is alright with that, but she knows how to keep me coming back for more.

My favorite reason for mongering is to find new girls. I'll like having favoritas everywhere I visit in case I hit a town when there aren't girls up to my standards. Some on these boards hate the scene at f*ck shops like Adelita and Hong Kong but that's what I love and I can tell before I get upstairs if she's going to cogerme con gusto or just going to lay there like a stuck up *****.

Getting back to MTY, I definitely need to get down and see the expanded Infinito. I'm hoping they're getting lots of tasty new talent for their new stage.

[QUOTE=Amigomio]Sheraton Ambassador at the downtown hotel district.
Very good hotel.

Not quite close to the action, but girl friendly, yes.

After that one, there are many good ones, but none accept female company within their premises.[/QUOTE]

I've stayed at the Sheraton several times and for a girl friendly hotel, there isn't much better. Still, of course you must use discretion as it is a family hotel and 99% of the guests aren't mongers.

As one of the major hotels in the area instead of having regular taxis with meters, there are special hotel taxis which are in nicer, larger sedans with AC, but they cost more. I found if you exit the hotel to the right and walk toward the Metro station at the end of the pedestrian mall (see Amigomio's map) you'll run into a taxis that will take you to the bars on Villagran for a fraction of the price. (regardless of taxi type, many drivers will feign not knowing where places like Infinito are and will try and steer you toward a high-end strip club... these guys know where Infinito is. They'll say these bars are dangerous but they aren't. Don't fall for their tricks the high-end fleece joint pay them for delivering guys to their establishment).

Basically, if you were familiar with the old Givenchy, they just knocked the wall out between the two, taking the bar area out of what was the South Wall of El Infinito. You can now gaze from what used to be the confines of El Infinito into the expanded side which was formerly the Old Givenchy. The room where the Old Givenchy used to be is almost like it's been untouched. The stage in the same place, the stairway up the to the Old Givenchy privados is still in the same place, the seating arrangement is basically the same, etc...

But, it struck me kind of Twilight Zone-ish, seeing exact remnants of the Old Givenchy as you gaze from the Infinito side, and simultaneously coming to the realization that the Old Givenchy will never be again, but that it still exists there visually as it once was. Weird!!!

Oh, it was never really a great resource, the Old Givenchy...It was very iffy, but sometimes offered an occasionally surprisingly good bar fine. I felt a kind of melancholy when scoping it out perhaps wondering if what I was seeing is the end of an era.

I've also missed the resource that the now closed "New" Givenchy offered. If you compare the resources offered by the lower end club scene, it sort of seemed as though the pool of options might have started to dry up a little bit compared to ten years ago, when I first started coming to Monterrey.

But, optimistically, I am extremely impressed with the options offered at Parthenon, a former sh*thole of a place. The girls at Parthenon are quite inexperienced with respect to their knowing their business, very young (almost scarily so), thin, HOT, willing, and cheap. It, along with some spill over that seems to have occurred at Tangalay from the closing of the New Givenchy, seems to have given us a kind of renewal along the Villa Gran Gauntlet with respect to the low end bar scene.

However, I just have to comment that, while what I see at Parthenon lately has me impressed, I am suspicious that the girls working there will not last long. When a bar engages in it's kind of violations of minimum employee eligibility standards, it could quite seriously jeopardize their license to do business. So, it would not surprise me if Parthenon regressed to it's old self in relatively short order as an act of self preservation.

[QUOTE=Super Gato]Getting back to MTY, I definitely need to get down and see the expanded Infinito. I'm hoping they're getting lots of tasty new talent for their new stage.[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's great! A map like yours is a perfect aid to get around. (And, as mentioned elsewhere, to keep taxi drivers on track :-) I'm really curios about MTY.
Thanks’ again for you help, Amigomio!

[QUOTE=Amigomio]Woody, this is my Monterrey map:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=111503405859056842911.0004453c3d2b791e9f99a&ll=25.682762,-100.310926&spn=0.042388,0.068836&z=14&om=0[/url]

It's a Google map I've been composing.
Includes MPs, SCs and hotels (Sheraton included).

One thing is that it seems you haven't been to Monterrey.
Monterrey is a big city, with no Red Zone.

As you see in the map, everything is spread all over.

Check it out and if you have any questions, please ask them.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Woody.

Check the map, see where the Sheraton is located in reference to the clubs.

Beware of the clubs close by, like Reno and Spugna.

Both are expensive tourist traps.

And if you have any questions, just place them here.

[QUOTE=Woody53]Wow, that's great! A map like yours is a perfect aid to get around. (And, as mentioned elsewhere, to keep taxi drivers on track :-) I'm really curios about MTY.

Thanks’ again for you help, Amigomio![/QUOTE]

Sorry for the late report but I was busy with Girlfriend.

I spend 1 day in Monterrey before going to see my regular girl in Reynosa, wake Up @ 11:00 am and went to the MP Signore, this is a real chip place and I spend 150 pesos for full service and and extra 100 for a bbbj.

Later the same day went to the MP Romanos and have a full service with a girl name Monserrrat, She was lactating and I have real fun sucking up her jugs, the total cost was 600 pesos which is not bad comparing with the prices I found in Poza Rica.

After taking supper went to the SC Infinito.I was real impress with the place. It has change a lot after my visit 2 years ago. I got a full service upstairs in the small booth for 300 pesos, I don't remember the name of the girl.

After a couple beers I invite a girl to sit with me and I ask her about a TLN deal. She charge 1350 pesos 350 for the club and 1000 for her. Take her to my room and spend the rest of the night with Her. She stays @ 3.00 hrs and it was a real GF service. She was pregnant in an early stage and she was really horny or a real good actress. I reserve her name for myself but if you go this Infinito SC you will find a lot of girls to choose from.

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