Seoul

I'm moving up to Seoul soon I've been here in Pyeongtaek and travel down to Daegu often. I always have luck at the 24 HR Massage places. Are the ones in Seoul operating the same as where I've been so far or are they pretty much massage only?

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2464740]Miari is still active but a sorry shell of its former self with quality mediocre at best and now a usually non-negotiable W100,000 per session. They've always started there, but I used to be able to bargain the ajumas down to 80,000. Now they seem not to be having any of that.[/QUOTE]What's the address for Miari? Do they have a lot of girls?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2465059]I'm moving up to Seoul soon I've been here in Pyeongtaek and travel down to Daegu often. I always have luck at the 24 HR Massage places. Are the ones in Seoul operating the same as where I've been so far or are they pretty much massage only?[/QUOTE]Have the women at the massage places always been Korean? Do they offer extras like FS? How much is it? I've never been to a massage place in Korea.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2465059]I'm moving up to Seoul soon I've been here in Pyeongtaek and travel down to Daegu often. I always have luck at the 24 HR Massage places. Are the ones in Seoul operating the same as where I've been so far or are they pretty much massage only?[/QUOTE]Is FS hair salons a thing on Seoul? Something similar like the ones in Vietnam?

Hey all,

I'm back in Seoul for about 2 months.

Send me a PM if you're looking for a Korean to help setup appointments with officetels or anmas.

Almost all of them offer group discounts and having a Korean makes it easier to get in the door.

There are a couple places that I used to frequent around gangnam or I can help set you up someplace new.

[QUOTE=SesameOil;2465643]Hey all,

I'm back in Seoul for about 2 months.

Send me a PM if you're looking for a Korean to help setup appointments with officetels or anmas.

Almost all of them offer group discounts and having a Korean makes it easier to get in the door.

There are a couple places that I used to frequent around gangnam or I can help set you up someplace new.[/QUOTE]What's the best anma in Seoul? I need to try some of the red light districts also are there any new ones?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2465774]What's the best anma in Seoul? I need to try some of the red light districts also are there any new ones?[/QUOTE]I'd say the easiest to get into used to be jinju but even now they are rejecting people due to corona scare. My favorites would have to be donuts and fish.

No idea about RLDs currently.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2465440]Is FS hair salons a thing on Seoul? [/QUOTE]Sure, if you don't mind fucking a grandmother. There are a lot of them all over South Korea.

[QUOTE=SesameOil;2465643]Hey all,

Send me a PM if you're looking for a Korean to help setup appointments with officetels or anmas.

Almost all of them offer group discounts and having a Korean makes it easier to get in the door.
[/QUOTE]I'd be game to try. I'm upgrading my membership again to be able to send PMs.

Went to the Hill again this week-end. Bean and Kaye were at Evergreen. The rest was dead.

I live in Korea, about an hour south of Seoul. I am a white foreigner but I do speak basic Korean and can talk enough to ask things. Not enough to hold a full conversation. And knowing Korean will honestly help a ton.

I have tried MR but either everyone is expensive as heck or just not really worth the time. Like I could fly to Japan, hit up a soapland and come back and still have money in my pocket.

I have used op10 when it was still that low of a number and browsed anma's (my favorite) and texted a bunch in my area. I texted in Korean, but I bet you could just use a translator. I say Hello, are foreigners OK. And I either don't get a response or they say yes but add a small fee for being a foreigner. Now again this is outside of Seoul, so the rates are cheaper. Plus If you say you have cash, you have a slightly better chance of getting an even lower price. At least with my experience I have. I have never tried anything other than anmas or massage places, as I just don't really care for it. But one downside is, you may not always know who you are getting. Also they sometimes smoke like crazy, so you will leave smelling like smoke.

Also if you are satisfied not getting FS you can always try Thai massage places. Some will give extra service for fairly cheap but not necessarily FS. Granted I have only been to these in Seoul when I had time at work, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was true for most places.

Your mileage may vary, but I have had good luck in the town I live in. Sadly Korea is not very foreigner friendly and you generally need to put some effort in and research. RLD's are really the only "easy" place to go with little to no research.

Craigslist is also an option, but most people I have come in contact with either ask for 500 k and also unreasonable or are also foreigners.

Best of luck fellow mongers!

[QUOTE=SesameOil;2465643]Hey all, Send me a PM if you're looking for a Korean to help setup appointments with officetels or anmas.[/QUOTE]You don't have a subscription so we can't send you PMs.

[QUOTE=Finnjake631]Also if you are satisfied not getting FS you can always try Thai massage places. Some will give extra service for fairly cheap but not necessarily FS. Granted I have only been to these in Seoul when I had time at work, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was true for most places.[/QUOTE]Any Thai place to recommend in Seoul for BJ finish?

I'm going to try one later today.

[QUOTE=Wolfpack23;2465314]Have the women at the massage places always been Korean? Do they offer extras like FS? How much is it? I've never been to a massage place in Korea.[/QUOTE]They've never been Korean always Thai or Chinese. I've found you can really beat that P up with the Thai. The Chinese can't take it as hard. I've had luck at ever massage place I've been to. Hell some don't even offer massage they just say 120,000 for FS and a little massage. Was at one in the Asan Thecno Valley area yesterday. Had a cute little Chinese girl who liked the larger penis rose it like she stole me. After I finished she pulled the cover off and gave me more BJ. Asked for me to come back and ask for her. Even had quite a bit of salad tossing thrown in. If Seoul isn't as good as where I live now I may have to turn the job down since I'm such a monger.

So I've been using craigslist to post messages and get some responses. Sometimes you get trolled. This troll made a mistake. A woman named Jennifer Conrod sent me a message through CL mail relay. When they do that, whatever name they have in their e-mail apparently gets sent to me, as it happens all of the time -- not sure they are aware of it. My ad was pretty innocuous, but obvious as to what I was looking for, to anyone with half a brain. She responded twice, saying, "I'm interested" to one of my ads, then "I'm very interested!" to another. I responded asking if she had a photo or an instagram or something. She sent me back two messages, an hour apart, in the middle of the night. Here's where it gets funny -- her first message was a tiny square accidentally right-clicked and saved from her mail page. It was very small, so hard to read. I will post it here. I am convinced it was an accidental send. It shows her university mail system (St. Thomas University in Canada) and her name, along with a partial message header and response from another guy who looks to be answering her. If you can't read it, the subject is, "I'll go to jail. " And the response from the guy who wrote her was, "Are you happy? That's what you exactly want. " So I received this, and it looked to me like she was a troll who accidentally outed herself. I also go a response from my other message, from the same woman, an hour later. She sent a photo of an Asian girl who I am not sure is actually her, so I won't post it. I FB searched the name and got a hit on a fat blonde white chick from Canada who has an English degree. I highly suspect she's an English teacher who is or was in Korea, and is trolling. A google search revealed a bit more, albeit confusing. I got another picture of the same girl as in the Asian photo this Jennifer sent to me, attached to an anti-Trump petition. Haha. Facebook does not have this Asian girl, but shows the fat white English Teacher chick. So I think she may be parading around as a fake Asian (possibly) and trolling people, but actually is a fat white English teacher from Canada.

Anyway, you might want to be careful with some of these CL responses. I've also learned not to respond with what I really want, right away. I try to wait a day and gather several responses. Some people are just trolling and want to know what you want, then will report you and get your ad removed. Waiting longer allows it to stay up longer.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2466870]You don't have a subscription so we can't send you PMs.[/QUOTE]Woops, seemed I was under the impression that I could receive without a subscription, my mistake. I will figure out this bitcoin thing and sub.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2467260]They've never been Korean always Thai or Chinese. I've found you can really beat that P up with the Thai. The Chinese can't take it as hard. I've had luck at ever massage place I've been to. Hell some don't even offer massage they just say 120,000 for FS and a little massage. Was at one in the Asan Thecno Valley area yesterday. Had a cute little Chinese girl who liked the larger penis rose it like she stole me. After I finished she pulled the cover off and gave me more BJ. Asked for me to come back and ask for her. Even had quite a bit of salad tossing thrown in. If Seoul isn't as good as where I live now I may have to turn the job down since I'm such a monger.[/QUOTE]Not many Thai massages open in downtown Seoul anymore. I've been to 5 in the last week and they are either out of business or don't have Thai masseuses. Please share on any place that's still open.

There are now (probably Nigerian) scammers answering ads for needs on CL, stringing you along, then trying to get you to send money before meeting.

If you place ads there, it is best to find a way to get proof you are talking to a real person in Seoul. The time difference can make some of these easy to spot, also.

Hi all,

Since I am locked down due to Covid-19, I have time to read up ISG reports of the many countries / cities I regularly travel to. I have read 32 pages of the Seoul thread, as well as the "Other Areas" thread. I have visited S. Korea several times, the last time in 2015 when I also visited Busan (the RLD there was awesome). I go to Southeast Asia 2-3 times every year. BTW, I am Asian-American.

My first observation after reading: Why are some many of you, the best contributors to the thread, still regular members of ISG? You are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for an hour session. Can't you pay $20? You will be more valuable if you have PM capability. You will also financially help to support this wonderful website which is so valuable to us.

I have resolved to make South Korea (and maybe Japan too) my first trip as soon as I can travel. So keep up the good postings. Yes, those Southeast Asian girls are great and cheap, but there's something about a Korean girl, or maybe I am watching too much Korean videos.

Funman13.

I am one of the guys on CL (I know there are others, based on ads) trying to get action there. It's far worse than it was a year ago. The responses have been flaky.

I'm not into large or really large, which cut out 2/3 of the ladies working off of there. One was a huge, and I mean huge, black woman who had forearms thicker than my neck. No thanks. Another looked promising, but all I saw was her face -- a Latina who gave me her Kakao. She was really weird, and would send me a message wanting to set up a time, then not answer for half a day. I kept asking her for more of a pic than her face, or some very blurry distant photo that didn't show her true size, but she'd stop talking for half a day again, then suddenly message again and ignore that I'd asked for a photo. Growing sick of this, I finally asked if she was afraid to show a photo of her body for some reason. She got all frumpy and perturbed, then said, "Oh. Block!" So much for that. Another lady was also large, and not my type. She was from Egypt. She sent photos. I was honest, and said I'm not into larger girls, but she kept up an interesting conversation about her exploits here (she's crazy busy).

Another was mildly insane. Her photos and name matched her FB profile. She kept begging me for money and calling me Peter. I'm not sure why. She must have had action with some guy named Peter, who she begged to just send her 5 million won so she could get back to Canada and not have to sleep with a bunch of random guys for money. She would send me 5 messages in an hour. It left me thinking she was real and just a Nigerian scammer, because I decided to play it up and offer to give her money over lunch, but she kept citing reasons not to actually meet.

Otherwise, I just heard from people who either didn't get what I was asking for (you can't be too direct with CL posts, or they get blocked). One lady looked like Howard Stern (I'm not kidding) but had a good body. I checked her FB page, based on her name, and she was really religious. She was kind of dense, and just didn't get it what I was looking for. When I finally told her, she was in shock (haha). One of my ads asked for sponsorship. Some blonde chick got all pissy when I directly asked about sex, telling me, "You have no idea how sponsorship works. " Uhhh. You screw a guy for money and things. Would you do it for free? Yeah. I know how it works, babe. You're no better than a hooker, so don't pretend to be.

I'll wait a few weeks and keep trying.

I am planning to visit South Korea again as soon as I am allowed to travel. Unfortunately I live in the USA which has the worst pandemic. Almost every country has banned Americans from entering. Anyway, at least I have time to read up on ISG and prepare. I have read the Seoul thread on and off from 2013 and made notes. I start reading / researching when I think I am going to a place, and stopped until my next trip.

I have one question which don't seemed to be covered here or in the Seoul thread. ARE THE HOTELS IN SOUTH Korea GIRL-FRIENDLY? I know the Hiltons and the Marriotts are not. I am talking about the 3-Star & 4-Star hotels or mom-pop hotels. Has anyone had trouble with front desk or security when bringing a working girl into your room?

Thanks.

Funman13.

Try the Korean love hotels. Long back on a visit to South Korea had requested my principals to put me up at a much more livelier place than one arranged at a 5 star just outside city premises, in Taegu. These love hotels are there all over the country, and the ones manning the front desks are obliged to not even look at the faces of the guests. Just go, pay up through a small enclosure, receive keys from that gap only, and hightail with your companion to the room number allotted. I had stayed as a regular guest for 4 nights for the kink value! Yep, language issue had prevented any 'scoring'. Well, Korea of 20 years ago was quite different from what it is now, in communication's respect.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2469541]I have one question which don't seemed to be covered here or in the Seoul thread. ARE THE HOTELS IN SOUTH Korea GIRL-FRIENDLY? I know the Hiltons and the Marriotts are not. I am talking about the 3-Star & 4-Star hotels or mom-pop hotels. Has anyone had trouble with front desk or security when bringing a working girl into your room?

Thanks.

Funman13.[/QUOTE]

Took a gander around Cheonho for the first time, this week.

It seems I missed it? Is it almost entirely gone now? Per websites, I see it was located behind the 2001 outlet, but most of that entire area has been ripped-out for a new apartment. Near the back end of it, I saw about a row and a quarter of red-light windows, but they were mostly condemned. I walked all around, but couldn't find anything else. Is it pretty much gone, now? People made it sound like there was some more to it than that. Did I miss something? Thanks.

During my trip to seoul a couple of years back, I brought back girls every other night and I stayed in a few different hotels mostly around sinchon & hongdae (3* & 4* hotels) and none of them ever asked (not even the girl's ID if you check-in first and just ask the girl to come up to your room). Also, If you're meeting hookers, you could just take them to a pay by the hour motels that are all over the place (decent price and amenities).

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2469541]I am planning to visit South Korea again as soon as I am allowed to travel. Unfortunately I live in the USA which has the worst pandemic. Almost every country has banned Americans from entering. Anyway, at least I have time to read up on ISG and prepare. I have read the Seoul thread on and off from 2013 and made notes. I start reading / researching when I think I am going to a place, and stopped until my next trip.

I have one question which don't seemed to be covered here or in the Seoul thread. ARE THE HOTELS IN SOUTH Korea GIRL-FRIENDLY? I know the Hiltons and the Marriotts are not. I am talking about the 3-Star & 4-Star hotels or mom-pop hotels. Has anyone had trouble with front desk or security when bringing a working girl into your room?

Thanks.

Funman13.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SesameOil;2467599]Woops, seemed I was under the impression that I could receive without a subscription, my mistake. I will figure out this bitcoin thing and sub.[/QUOTE]Send me a message when you do.

I tried a few Thai places last week in Gwanak-gu, Gangnam-gu and Gwangjin-gu.

What worked for me was being explicit about extras at the front desk and in the room.

All 3 places advertised as 24 h. Only one of them, that honestly looked too proper, didn't offer extras (but the massage was really good.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2469541]I am planning to visit South Korea again as soon as I am allowed to travel. Unfortunately I live in the USA which has the worst pandemic. Almost every country has banned Americans from entering. Anyway, at least I have time to read up on ISG and prepare. I have read the Seoul thread on and off from 2013 and made notes. I start reading / researching when I think I am going to a place, and stopped until my next trip.

I have one question which don't seemed to be covered here or in the Seoul thread. ARE THE HOTELS IN SOUTH Korea GIRL-FRIENDLY? I know the Hiltons and the Marriotts are not. I am talking about the 3-Star & 4-Star hotels or mom-pop hotels. Has anyone had trouble with front desk or security when bringing a working girl into your room?

Thanks.

Funman13.[/QUOTE]South Korea isn't Thailand or the Philippines. The country has a functioning economy that doesn't revolve around prostitution. They also respect westerners and basic human rights. No one will know or care what you do while you're there. So all hotels are "girl friendly" by default. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2469750]Send me a message when you do.

I tried a few Thai places last week in Gwanak-gu, Gangnam-gu and Gwangjin-gu.

What worked for me was being explicit about extras at the front desk and in the room.

All 3 places advertised as 24 h. Only one of them, that honestly looked too proper, didn't offer extras (but the massage was really good.[/QUOTE]Where was the Thai place in Gwangjin ku? Did they offer extras? I pass there on my way to work. Would like to check it out, if it's close. Thanks.

Thank you Rick Rock & Carnivore for your favorable and encouraging info. Regarding love hotels, I once stayed in one in Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan, without even knowing it is until a couple days later. I booked it through Agoda dot com. The room was great with all the amenities including toothbrushes and hairdryer. In the middle was a huge circular bed. There were even porn channels on TV (the Japanese kind where you have to have a lot of imagination). Unfortunately, I was not successful in getting girls to come to the hotel. I was not familiar with the local scene, did not speak Japanese and did not do enough research. After I left Japan, it hit me that I could have just asked the front desk, LOL.

I guess my next question is: when I book through hotel search engines, how can I tell if it's a love hotel? I guess looking at the pictures of the hotel will be a give-away?

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2470042]Thank you Rick Rock & Carnivore for your favorable and encouraging info. Regarding love hotels, I once stayed in one in Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan, without even knowing it is until a couple days later. I booked it through Agoda dot com. The room was great with all the amenities including toothbrushes and hairdryer. In the middle was a huge circular bed. There were even porn channels on TV (the Japanese kind where you have to have a lot of imagination). Unfortunately, I was not successful in getting girls to come to the hotel. I was not familiar with the local scene, did not speak Japanese and did not do enough research. After I left Japan, it hit me that I could have just asked the front desk, LOL.

I guess my next question is: when I book through hotel search engines, how can I tell if it's a love hotel? I guess looking at the pictures of the hotel will be a give-away?

Funman13.[/QUOTE]Try this site for finding a place around you. Many of them are offering short stay 4 6 hours) at affordable prices. There is also a point accumulating system with possible rewards. [URL]https://www.yanolja.com/?NaPm=ct%3Dkd3za044%7Cci%3Dcheckout%7Ctr%3Dds%7Ctrx%3D%7Chk%3Df222bbb655d29f81def1cd53582e1a2fc85c6026[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2464740]Miari is still active but a sorry shell of its former self with quality mediocre at best and now a usually non-negotiable W100,000 per session. They've always started there, but I used to be able to bargain the ajumas down to 80,000. Now they seem not to be having any of that.[/QUOTE]Yes Miari is quite boring now but I was lucky to still score there with a hidden hottie. Also I have yet to drop by my old punting ground place, so maybe I will drop by in August to check that place out in Miari.

Miari used to have young fresh chicks acting like 20 year old cheerleaders but these days replaced by old over the hill women with the same arm grabbing ajumma or mamasans still trying to push you to the glass house.

I heard Cheonho is also passing away soon.

I miss my Covert Ops in Philippines.

[QUOTE=LeahChoi;2470324]Try this site for finding a place around you. Many of them are offering short stay 4 6 hours) at affordable prices. There is also a point accumulating system with possible rewards. [URL]https://www.yanolja.com/?NaPm=ct%3Dkd3za044%7Cci%3Dcheckout%7Ctr%3Dds%7Ctrx%3D%7Chk%3Df222bbb655d29f81def1cd53582e1a2fc85c6026[/URL].[/QUOTE]Hi. Do you need to be a member to get the prices on this site or can you just show them the price on your phone if they try and overcharge you?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2470511]Hi. Do you need to be a member to get the prices on this site or can you just show them the price on your phone if they try and overcharge you?[/QUOTE]Of course you need to be a member and do some effort. But it worth it.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2469600]Took a gander around Cheonho for the first time, this week.

It seems I missed it? Is it almost entirely gone now? Per websites, I see it was located behind the 2001 outlet, but most of that entire area has been ripped-out for a new apartment. Near the back end of it, I saw about a row and a quarter of red-light windows, but they were mostly condemned. I walked all around, but couldn't find anything else. Is it pretty much gone, now? People made it sound like there was some more to it than that. Did I miss something? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can pass through the whole former red light area if go inside the small valley on the right side from 2001 Outlet (left from parking place). It is now open to public but not totally destroyed yet. Follow the narrow path and in the middle of it, there's one vintage-looking store with about 3 ladies in mid 40th I think, who are probably got no place to go or maybe waiting for regular customer.

[QUOTE=LeahChoi;2470324]Try this site for finding a place around you. Many of them are offering short stay 4 6 hours) at affordable prices. There is also a point accumulating system with possible rewards. [URL]https://www.yanolja.com/?NaPm=ct%3Dkd3za044%7Cci%3Dcheckout%7Ctr%3Dds%7Ctrx%3D%7Chk%3Df222bbb655d29f81def1cd53582e1a2fc85c6026[/URL].[/QUOTE]Actually I would like to find a hotel to stay in as well as play, rather than to get another ST hotel just to play.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2470042]Thank you Rick Rock & Carnivore for your favorable and encouraging info. Regarding love hotels, I once stayed in one in Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan, without even knowing it is until a couple days later. I booked it through Agoda dot com. The room was great with all the amenities including toothbrushes and hairdryer. In the middle was a huge circular bed. There were even porn channels on TV (the Japanese kind where you have to have a lot of imagination). Unfortunately, I was not successful in getting girls to come to the hotel. I was not familiar with the local scene, did not speak Japanese and did not do enough research. After I left Japan, it hit me that I could have just asked the front desk, LOL.

I guess my next question is: when I book through hotel search engines, how can I tell if it's a love hotel? I guess looking at the pictures of the hotel will be a give-away?

Funman13.[/QUOTE]Years ago there was an escort agency called Asian Mistique. It's owned by one western guy, who is my old friend, so I know well. They cover all mainland of Japan.

I think it is legitimate service.

We have no anything like that in Korea yet.

I've seen Leah post a couple of messages in here but she has been too modest about her own service.

Leah offers a wonderful sensuous and exciting massage service. I have received her massage three times and each time it ended very happily. She's great at what she does, and she's also super nice, polite and friendly. I whole-heartedly recommend her to anyone after a good massage with he.

Go to seoul dash massage dot kr.

She's also spainseoul on FB.

Just remember to always be respectful of her do's and don'ts.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2471876]I've seen Leah post a couple of messages in here but she has been too modest about her own service.

Leah offers a wonderful sensuous and exciting massage service. I have received her massage three times and each time it ended very happily. She's great at what she does, and she's also super nice, polite and friendly. I whole-heartedly recommend her to anyone after a good massage with he.

Go to seoul dash massage dot kr.

She's also spainseoul on FB.

Just remember to always be respectful of her do's and don'ts.[/QUOTE]Thank you! It was really nice to see you again.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2465156]What's the address for Miari? Do they have a lot of girls?[/QUOTE]Miari is near subway line 4 Gireum Station. Exit 10 is the closest.

[QUOTE=LeahChoi;2473206]Thank you! It was really nice to see you again.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you been asked this before sorry, but do you offer FS? Is Yeongdeungpo Red light district operating?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2473425]I'm sure you been asked this before sorry, but do you offer FS? Is Yeongdeungpo Red light district operating?[/QUOTE]Yeongdeungpo RLD is definitely operating.

Tried going to a Lip Cafe I used to go to with a friend (non-Asian) near Gangnam exit 4.

We were refused entry because the girls were afraid of Corona.

Craigslist is dry.

I've done a few massages but they're not really my thing, especially for just a HJ.

Anyone knows where to get a good BJ from a reasonably attractive woman in these difficult days?

I still haven't tried the waxing place Koharski mentioned but multiple people reported it as a miss.

At this point if a frequent anma goer or even room salon afficionado wants to team up, I'm game too.

My DMs are open.

I miss you Thailand.

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2473663]Yeongdeungpo RLD is definitely operating.[/QUOTE]How was the service? I will pick the prettiest one I find. Hopefully decent amount to choose?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2473914]How was the service? I will pick the prettiest one I find. Hopefully decent amount to choose?[/QUOTE]RLDs aren't really my thing, so I can't say. I just live nearby. There seems to be quite a range in the girls though and not sure how many are open to foreigners.

Does anyone know if kiss bangs are still open and if they allow foreigners like Americans at this time? I don't know if the girls would be afraid of Americans even if they are open.

Sorry to hear the CL game has gone down the tubes so much. Was amazing late last year in Seoul. Colombians, Koreans, Asian Americans, Russians, and a gorgeous once in a lifetime experience with a Korean from Europe. Seems like all the girls have moved to seeking these days.

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2475069]Sorry to hear the CL game has gone down the tubes so much. Was amazing late last year in Seoul. Colombians, Koreans, Asian Americans, Russians, and a gorgeous once in a lifetime experience with a Korean from Europe. Seems like all the girls have moved to seeking these days.[/QUOTE]It has gone downhill due to Covid and providers not travelling through like before.

[QUOTE=LeahChoi;2470572]You can pass through the whole former red light area if go inside the small valley on the right side from 2001 Outlet (left from parking place). It is now open to public but not totally destroyed yet. Follow the narrow path and in the middle of it, there's one vintage-looking store with about 3 ladies in mid 40th I think, who are probably got no place to go or maybe waiting for regular customer.[/QUOTE]Not sure if they are closed on Sunday evenings, but passed through there and I could only find one set of Windows that didn't have a condemned sign on them. The remaining row next to it was entirely condemned. Every square inch between that and the outlet has been completely removed. Only dirt surrounded by tall metal fences remains. New apartment being built.

Just wondering in general for those who have been to Seoul multiple times in the last couple of years, is Korea getting more or less open to foreigners? I have been to Seoul a couple of times but they have always been short trips so the only thing I had time for was a kiss bang one night (which I would say was a great experience after finding less than GFE experience in Europe and China. Do you think Korea will become more open to foreigners as we see more globalization or will it be more closed off as the population ages?

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2479657]Just wondering in general for those who have been to Seoul multiple times in the last couple of years, is Korea getting more or less open to foreigners? I have been to Seoul a couple of times but they have always been short trips so the only thing I had time for was a kiss bang one night (which I would say was a great experience after finding less than GFE experience in Europe and China. Do you think Korea will become more open to foreigners as we see more globalization or will it be more closed off as the population ages?[/QUOTE]I don't see it getting better. It's definitely gotten worse these days.

See my precious message.

So tried to do Belle Anma but was told to come back at 1700. So walking back to car saw this shop about a block away. It was 60 k for the Aroma which was pretty good. She was a cute 29 year old Thia girl. Wanted 50 k for hand or 75 for BJ asked for sex but she said " oh so expensive" which I've learned means they are ragging. Went with the BJ not bad but she couldn't take the whole thing so most attention was paid to the tip, got to feel on the small perky tits before finishing off with one shot in her mouth the rest on my stomach.

Does anyone know of any good barber shop / massage parlors with older women? I prefer going to these types of places but a lot of the time they can be hit or miss.

[QUOTE=Chiip123;2486295]Does anyone know of any good barber shop / massage parlors with older women? I prefer going to these types of places but a lot of the time they can be hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Wondering about this too. I'm always game for trying out some random ones around me, but the low of a bad one usually outweighs the high of the good ones and sometimes you just want a sure thing.

Today was another successful visit in Pangyo Techno Valley. Usual Body Rub stop with nothing out of the ordinary. The providers are all middle aged Korean women who give excellent massages. I do not come to this place for the looks, but my customer service experience has been consistently satisfactory. Hopefully, Seoul really puts some effort into making this area more attractive to younger talent. Many of the girls have returned to Gangnam, because there are very few foreigners in the area. One hundred thousand was the total damage for an hour and a half with a BBBJ.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2484102]So tried to do Belle Anma but was told to come back at 1700. So walking back to car saw this shop about a block away. It was 60 k for the Aroma which was pretty good. She was a cute 29 year old Thia girl. Wanted 50 k for hand or 75 for BJ asked for sex but she said " oh so expensive" which I've learned means they are ragging. Went with the BJ not bad but she couldn't take the whole thing so most attention was paid to the tip, got to feel on the small perky tits before finishing off with one shot in her mouth the rest on my stomach.[/QUOTE]I am sure you have been to this area already, but this was the street I was referencing in a previous post. Maybe you will have a different outcome than me, but there is a lot of good talent in this radius.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2489202]Today was another successful visit in Pangyo Techno Valley. Usual Body Rub stop with nothing out of the ordinary. The providers are all middle aged Korean women who give excellent massages. I do not come to this place for the looks, but my customer service experience has been consistently satisfactory. Hopefully, Seoul really puts some effort into making this area more attractive to younger talent. Many of the girls have returned to Gangnam, because there are very few foreigners in the area. One hundred thousand was the total damage for an hour and a half with a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]What's the matter? They don't like Foreigners?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2489363]What's the matter? They don't like Foreigners?[/QUOTE]The reference was from a post I made in Other Areas. I was turned away after I have spent years going to this area prior to the pandemic. PTV has always welcomed foreigners to my knowledge and experience.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2484102]So tried to do Belle Anma but was told to come back at 1700. So walking back to car saw this shop about a block away. It was 60 k for the Aroma which was pretty good. She was a cute 29 year old Thia girl. Wanted 50 k for hand or 75 for BJ asked for sex but she said " oh so expensive" which I've learned means they are ragging. Went with the BJ not bad but she couldn't take the whole thing so most attention was paid to the tip, got to feel on the small perky tits before finishing off with one shot in her mouth the rest on my stomach.[/QUOTE]So you pay just the 50 k or do you just pay for the massage and get the HJ as part of it? What was the total bill?

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2489884]So you pay just the 50 k or do you just pay for the massage and get the HJ as part of it? What was the total bill?[/QUOTE]I paid for the BBBJ total was 150 k, steep for my liking.

I did try another massage place across from Yongsan station however it was a legit only massage. Left there and ran across an older Anma near Seoul station. It was 80 k for a good massage and HJ. There's something about getting a good tug from a veteran of the game.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2489204]I am sure you have been to this area already, but this was the street I was referencing in a previous post. Maybe you will have a different outcome than me, but there is a lot of good talent in this radius.[/QUOTE]I have been here, parking is a pain. I will have to check it out. Amy keeps messaging me asking when I am coming back. I have to say I like meeting outside the shops they all seem to fuck better when they are not being paid for it. LOL.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2490227]I have been here, parking is a pain. I will have to check it out. Amy keeps messaging me asking when I am coming back. I have to say I like meeting outside the shops they all seem to fuck better when they are not being paid for it. LOL.[/QUOTE]Parking is always terrible and the congestion does not make it any better. I laugh and feel bad the guy she posts on her stories, because Amy and her roommates take so much dick daily from everyone and "their boyfriends" have to pay to keep them happy LOL.

[QUOTE=Chiip123;2486295]Does anyone know of any good barber shop / massage parlors with older women? I prefer going to these types of places but a lot of the time they can be hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Here's one place to avoid: in the basement of the Doosan Pavillion building in Jongno. The building houses 2 embassies above. The sports massage place in the basement is run by a couple of older ladies. Not unattractive and fit for their age, but the experience was mechanical. 80 k for a one hour massage including HJ ending. But the HJ was so uninspiring that Mr Happy couldn't even stand at attention. She didn't even pull her top down or up, and there was no sign given that touching would be welcome. So after a minute or two of her desperate tugging, I told her to lay it off and got dressed and walked out of there. The massage was very mediocre too. Too much back walking and not enough hand work.

No plans to repeat. Many buildings in downtown Seoul have a barber shop, but I can't go round dropping 80 k everywhere until I find a good one, so please, let's share good intel. Now that most Thai massage places are shut, I don't know where to go for a good quality massage with a happy ending, preferably with some consensual titty touching.

Had a bad experience with Mikaela's agency who are advertising on MR. Provider arrived and was totally stressed out and hyperventilating. No touching at all, totally glacial in attitude. Insisted she, then I, have a shower and not together, then complained when I only spent 2 minutes in the shower even though I had taken a long shower before she arrived. Seeing the writing on the wall, I retrieved my envelope, then gave her a very generous taxi fare in the hope of getting rid of her as quickly as possible. Luckily after some ranting she left. Take what you can from my experience.

I checked out a bunch of places near Hapjeong a few weeks ago and all seemed to be offering the same thing. Average looking older woman, varying degrees of "massage" and FS for 100 k. I'm more of a 80 k for an actual massage w / HJ kind of guy, so I was disappointed. If that's what you're looking for, there's a lot of options in a block or 2 radius though. I've got a pretty good go-to spot in a nearby area, but the thrill of the hunt is hard to ignore. Interested in how / if those who don't speak korean are able to navigate these places? 50% of the time it feels like they're about to turn me away before they realize there's no language barrier.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2491326]Now that most Thai massage places are shut, I don't know where to go for a good quality massage with a happy ending, preferably with some consensual titty touching.[/QUOTE]How do you gauge the Thai places? I love thai massages, but all the places I've been to here all seem legit and I can't seem to find one where there's any extras on the table. Do you ask the girl during / after the massage or try and negotiate when paying at the front?

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2492007]How do you gauge the Thai places? I love thai massages, but all the places I've been to here all seem legit and I can't seem to find one where there's any extras on the table. Do you ask the girl during / after the massage or try and negotiate when paying at the front?[/QUOTE]1 if it is in a basement, they most likely offer services, this is for most massage places not just Thai.

2. Just ask, sometimes you can tell by the look of the place, sometimes you can't. Don't be afraid to just ask but be nice about it. I usually ask the girl after the flip in the massage but you can ask the desk before you even pay or walk in sometimes.

- I am usually happy with just a massage and the happy ending is just a bonus where if I don't get it, I am fine.

Side note: Anmas are different. It literally translates to massage, but it's more like a Japanese soapland. These 100% offer full service. It is in a sense a massage, albeit very light touching LOL.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2492007]How do you gauge the Thai places? I love thai massages, but all the places I've been to here all seem legit and I can't seem to find one where there's any extras on the table. Do you ask the girl during / after the massage or try and negotiate when paying at the front?[/QUOTE]Two options: you try to negotiate up front at the desk. When you pay, say the word "mah-moo-ri" and give a meaningful look or a handjob motion, and see how the reception person reacts. Two, you ask the girl in the room at the start when she enters the room before you lie down to get the massage, or at the end of the massage before she leaves. The easiest way is to hold up a number of fingers for how many ten thousand won bills you are offering. I think the minimum standard is three, so hold up 3 fingers, and see if she bites.

Let us know how you go. Personally I think negotiating with the masseur directly is better because that way you know that she gets all the money and the person at the front doesn't take a cut or whatever.

If this info is useful and you find a good Thai place, share the details either in the forum or privately to me.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2492561]Let us know how you go. Personally I think negotiating with the masseur directly is better because that way you know that she gets all the money and the person at the front doesn't take a cut or whatever.

If this info is useful and you find a good Thai place, share the details either in the forum or privately to me.[/QUOTE]I'll post if I have any luck. I speak fluent Korean, so communication isn't the issue, but every time I've inquired at extras the front, I've always been told no. My problem with asking the masseur directly is that by that time I've already paid and while sometimes I do enjoy just a massage, I'd rather spend when I know what I'm getting for sure.

Say goodbye to the entire left side of The Hill in Itaewon, if I am reading this right.

Cheers all the way up, it looks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2494455]Say goodbye to the entire left side of The Hill in Itaewon, if I am reading this right.

Cheers all the way up, it looks.[/QUOTE]How many RLD are left in Seoul? Please let them be more and newer ones!

Is there anyone who has experience with a blonde Columbian escort who advertises on top escort babes and city of love? Always see her updating her posts but I've never seen any reviews. Also, who has been up the hill recently? Any action there since I haven't been there in about 6 months.

There is a sensual massage shop near Sinseoldong Station.

Go out through the exit No. 11 of Sinseoldong Station (subway line 1).

Walk to the west about 150 m.

You can find a Jjambong Restaurant, Jeonseoleui Jjambong (Legendary Jjambong) next to a drugstore.

The massage shop is on the 2nd floor of that restaurant.

The name of the massage shop is "Mong".

You can see English sign on the window of the shop, "Mong Massage Body Total Care Health Lund".

(yellow letters in black background).

The price of 1 hour dry Thai massage including hand job is only 70 k.

(You can get 20 k discount from 12 PM to 6 PM).

I am not sure if the lady at the counter can understand English.

If you pay 30 k privately to the masseuse, you can get more service.

All the masseuses are Thai.

I don't think they are cute or beautiful, but not so ugly.

Are there many ads of many services? Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=MrTarzan;2491555]Had a bad experience with Mikaela's agency who are advertising on MR. Provider arrived and was totally stressed out and hyperventilating. No touching at all, totally glacial in attitude. Insisted she, then I, have a shower and not together, then complained when I only spent 2 minutes in the shower even though I had taken a long shower before she arrived. Seeing the writing on the wall, I retrieved my envelope, then gave her a very generous taxi fare in the hope of getting rid of her as quickly as possible. Luckily after some ranting she left. Take what you can from my experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wikileaks;2494868]Are there many ads of many services? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Massage Republic is a ad website ironically blocked in Korea. So I am guessing this is targeted towards foreigners who visit.

Usually plenty of ads, but again with covid many don't respond or have taken their ad down.

Most tend to be over priced and not worth while. But feel free to look. You might find something worth your time.

[QUOTE=Wikileaks;2494868]Are there many ads of many services? Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]MR= Massage Republic. Her services are on Topescort Babes and most sites advertising for Seoul.

[QUOTE=MrTarzan;2491555]Had a bad experience with Mikaela's agency who are advertising on MR. Provider arrived and was totally stressed out and hyperventilating. No touching at all, totally glacial in attitude. Insisted she, then I, have a shower and not together, then complained when I only spent 2 minutes in the shower even though I had taken a long shower before she arrived. Seeing the writing on the wall, I retrieved my envelope, then gave her a very generous taxi fare in the hope of getting rid of her as quickly as possible. Luckily after some ranting she left. Take what you can from my experience.[/QUOTE]I've kept a close eye on MR and other places and Mikaela herself has been flagged for B&S a number of times, and apparently she isn't anything close to the pictures she uses. I wouldn't trust any "agency" she is running, although I am sure it is all just a front for some agency with low quality women charging foreigners top dollar.

What has been others experiences with Mirari? I went there awhile back and the lone ajumma approached me and show me a rather pretty girl, which was great. However, a few weeks later I came back and didn't have any luck, only older and unattractive women. There was lots of ajummas around, so I think they may have been unwilling to let the other see they were giving service to foreigners.

Was I just lucky the first time? Should I not have my expectations to high for Mirari? Are officetel girls better, and where can I find a website that lists them, I am fine with reading Korean (PM if you want).

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2494455]Say goodbye to the entire left side of The Hill in Itaewon, if I am reading this right.

Cheers all the way up, it looks.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't sweat it, it looks like they're repaving the hill. You should call the 010 number and ask the construction company if they're demolishing the hookers.

I talked to Candy at the VIP last Christmas and she wasn't too worried about shuttering businesses on that side of the hill. Who's going to build anything? Businesses are leaving Itaewon with a vacancy rate double the rest of Seoul. The boom of a few years ago has passed.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2492561]Two options: you try to negotiate up front at the desk. When you pay, say the word "mah-moo-ri" and give a meaningful look or a handjob motion, and see how the reception person reacts. Two, you ask the girl in the room at the start when she enters the room before you lie down to get the massage, or at the end of the massage before she leaves. The easiest way is to hold up a number of fingers for how many ten thousand won bills you are offering. I think the minimum standard is three, so hold up 3 fingers, and see if she bites.

Let us know how you go. Personally I think negotiating with the masseur directly is better because that way you know that she gets all the money and the person at the front doesn't take a cut or whatever.

If this info is useful and you find a good Thai place, share the details either in the forum or privately to me.[/QUOTE]Found a Thai place where the masseuse wasn't shy about offering extras.

It's called Healing. The basic price is 50,000 won for a 60 minute Thai dry massage. 10 k extra for oily aroma. My provider was a tall Thai a little on the chunkier side, not the petite type, but with beautiful big boobs. Her English is good, so we could have a conversation. She told me 30 k was the standard for a HJ, and she had worked at several places before coming to this one. I asked her to take her top off for some fondling, and that was an extra 20 k. All up, a decent massage and a nice happy ending with boob play. Masseuse goes by the name of Yuli. She said she is on call 24-7. She also said there are 2 other girls who work there.

Location: near City Hall station exit 7. It's in that maze of small streets and business clubs called Bukchang dong, behind the Plaza Hotel. It's on the 2nd floor. Here's a map of it [URL]http://kko.to/QLdSA8WDj[/URL].

Please report if you go!

Found this spot wandering around. It's the traditional massage place. The massage was 90 minutes were your oiled up and massaged then wrapped up in that rubber sheet with hot towels placed over your body. Then massaged and walked on with the towels covering you. Then the towels come off, your flipped over and the front is rubbed down with quite a bit of attention payed to the glands if you know what I mean. Then a face mask is applied while she cleans you up before giving a pretty damn good hand job. Of course the top comes down for some fondling of those perky Korean tits and you can rub on her pussy as well. Once you pop your cleaned up. First time getting a handy while wearing a facemask. It's between Seoul station and Ipark mall. Pics seem to big to attach. Hit me up with a PM and I will share. Happy mongering.

Are Americans allowed to visit South Korea now? What are the restrictions? Thanks.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2497524]Are Americans allowed to visit South Korea now? What are the restrictions? Thanks.

Funman13.[/QUOTE]Find the answer here:

[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php[/URL]

And 10000000000's of sites like that.

See.

Hi,

Any news about what's happening on the hill? Has anyone visited recently and got some action there? I'd also like to know about a Columbian posting on top escort.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2497690]Hi,

Any news about what's happening on the hill? Has anyone visited recently and got some action there? I'd also like to know about a Columbian posting on top escort.[/QUOTE]Why don't you test her out?

Most guys on here arent in the mood to pay ridiculous rates for women on those sites.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2496309]Found a Thai place where the masseuse wasn't shy about offering extras.

It's called Healing. The basic price is 50,000 won for a 60 minute Thai dry massage. 10 k extra for oily aroma. My provider was a tall Thai a little on the chunkier side, not the petite type, but with beautiful big boobs. Her English is good, so we could have a conversation. She told me 30 k was the standard for a HJ, and she had worked at several places before coming to this one. I asked her to take her top off for some fondling, and that was an extra 20 k. All up, a decent massage and a nice happy ending with boob play. Masseuse goes by the name of Yuli. She said she is on call 24-7. She also said there are 2 other girls who work there.

Location: near City Hall station exit 7. It's in that maze of small streets and business clubs called Bukchang dong, behind the Plaza Hotel. It's on the 2nd floor. Here's a map of it [URL]http://kko.to/QLdSA8WDj[/URL].

Please report if you go![/QUOTE]Checked this place out last night, had a similar nice experience.

Had to deal with a slightly annoying mamasan upon entrance, asked about extras and she told me to talk to the masseuse about it, not her. She didn't speak English and was kind of rude. I paid my 50 k and got put in a room and told to wait. She made a phone call and about 5-10 minutes later the girl arrived. She was Thai and cute enough, average body etc. Not the girl you mentioned. She went straight to work on the massage, didn't really speak korean or english so we didn't have much communication. Good, strong massage but no hint of anything and I had essentially given up. Then at the very end she asked if I wanted he and said 30k. Asked about touching and she wanted 10k more. Technique was good, definitely worth it.

Overall a pretty good experience for the price, I love when you actually get a nice massage too. But the shop was a bit busy and the other (assumingely drunk) guys were a loud and annoying and took me out of it a bit, but probably just bad luck. Would probably repeat if I was around the area.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2497726]Why don't you test her out?

Most guys on here arent in the mood to pay ridiculous rates for women on those sites.[/QUOTE]I want to but some guy freaked me out with a story about the cops etc. Setting up scams to catch people. Have y'all ever heard stories like that?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2497438]Found this spot wandering around. It's the traditional massage place. The massage was 90 minutes were your oiled up and massaged then wrapped up in that rubber sheet with hot towels placed over your body. Then massaged and walked on with the towels covering you. Then the towels come off, your flipped over and the front is rubbed down with quite a bit of attention payed to the glands if you know what I mean. Then a face mask is applied while she cleans you up before giving a pretty damn good hand job. Of course the top comes down for some fondling of those perky Korean tits and you can rub on her pussy as well. Once you pop your cleaned up. First time getting a handy while wearing a facemask. It's between Seoul station and Ipark mall. Pics seem to big to attach. Hit me up with a PM and I will share. Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Hello,

I don't know whether you will be able to see this but.

Could you just pass along the location and the place name?

No need to see the pictures really.

Sorry that I am not committed enough to pay to use the PM system.

I've read about people buying the V at adult stores around here. Like, how available is it? Also, is there any clinic where someone could get it (like in Itaewon, Hongdae etc.) without any trouble regarding communication or something?

TIA.

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2499018]Hello,

I don't know whether you will be able to see this but.

Could you just pass along the location and the place name?

No need to see the pictures really.

Sorry that I am not committed enough to pay to use the PM system.[/QUOTE]I have pictures of the location that's the only way I could send the location.

Checked out a random sports massage place in Yeonnam-dong, under the pharmacy right by the bus stop. Provider was a bit older than the "older" women who usually are in these places. 70 k gets you an OK massage (lots of back walking with the hot towels etc) and a pretty good HJ with a little tongue thrown in. In and out in about 50 minutes. Definitely not the worst, but not worth it. Onto the next one.

Hello,

Through experience and the stories of other people that I read online.

I believe that 70,000 krw or 80,000 gets me a massage plus HJ at most places.

Is it realistic to get a full sexual intercourse in one of those places? And how much would that be usually?

And.

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2502333]Hello,

Through experience and the stories of other people that I read online.

I believe that 70,000 krw or 80,000 gets me a massage plus HJ at most places.

Is it realistic to get a full sexual intercourse in one of those places? And how much would that be usually?

And.[/QUOTE]Most massage places like that will offer massage plus HJ for 70-80 OR massage + full service for 100-130, but usually not both. One or the other.

Just a note. Tried one of the massage places at the Guui intersection. On the North East corner of the intersection (South side of that street heads to Lotte Tower) is a massage place about 3 or 4 floors up. There is a very short woman -- almost midget, but not quite -- working there. I'd say she's 50's. Massage was around 70k, and included a rub and tug. If you like women who are like 4'6" tall, and that age, you'll like her.

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[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2494589]Is there anyone who has experience with a blonde Columbian escort who advertises on top escort babes and city of love? Always see her updating her posts but I've never seen any reviews. Also, who has been up the hill recently? Any action there since I haven't been there in about 6 months.[/QUOTE]Are you speaking of an escort named "Mine"? I have a review of her if you need some feedback.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2503993]Are you speaking of an escort named "Mine"? I have a review of her if you need some feedback.[/QUOTE]I am and a review would be a lot of help. Tia.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2504121]I am and a review would be a lot of help. Tia.[/QUOTE]I texted her. She keeps sending me photos of other girls and won't let me know if she does escorting too.

I think there's a small language barrier too.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2504121]I am and a review would be a lot of help. Tia.[/QUOTE]When the pandemic hit Korea hard around February, my trip to Thailand was canceled. I had her as a contingency plan just in case something crazy happened. I got her contact from top escorts and ran a reference check to all messaging platforms to see what she used. I decided to go with Kakao since it doesn't track online status. I messaged her in English and as soon as she sent a question mark, I switched to Spanish using Google translate. It took about a week of coordinating my schedule to finalize a meeting. She was very trusting, because she gave me the address to her home. The text price for an hour was 160,000₩. In person I told her I wanted full access to her body and bareback. She hesitated and said no. I was about to leave, before she changed her mind and agreed to 180 k.

I put the money on her dresser and asked for a shower using body language. She was very accommodating and patient. After I showered she dried me off and we began to hug. I took off her sheer lingerie and she immediately began oral sex. Her skills were so good with her tongue that I had to stop her head motion and move away. We continued on her bed and had basic missionary sex. Her breasts are bolted on, but it didn't kill my vibe, because her body was amazing. She is so tiny in person. The only complaint I had was she did not smell the freshest in her armpits. Maybe thirty minutes in I finished inside her. After I finished I was able to rest inside her for about five minutes before I moved and she allowed me another shower. After the shower she motioned for me to relax with her on the bed.

I watched her interact on three separate phones while guys messaged her in Korean, Spanish, and English. She told me she was a part time teacher. After I took a nap, she woke me up so I could leave at a decent time. The entire encounter lasted slightly less than two hours. I tipped her another 20 k for the power nap. August comes around and I wanted to book her again, but by that time she had a Korean sponsor who was simp / supplying her life. She created an onlyfans and another premium account. She continued to tell me she couldn't make time, because of her boyfriend. I haven't tried since then.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2504210]I texted her. She keeps sending me photos of other girls and won't let me know if she does escorting too.

I think there's a small language barrier too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Yeah, I also texted her and she was abrupt then stopped replying. However, that was like a month ago. I'll think about trying again.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2504264]When the pandemic hit Korea hard around February, my trip to Thailand was canceled. I had her as a contingency plan just in case something crazy happened. I got her contact from top escorts and ran a reference check to all messaging platforms to see what she used. I decided to go with Kakao since it doesn't track online status. I messaged her in English and as soon as she sent a question mark, I switched to Spanish using Google translate. It took about a week of coordinating my schedule to finalize a meeting. She was very trusting, because she gave me the address to her home. The text price for an hour was 160,000₩. In person I told her I wanted full access to her body and bareback. She hesitated and said no. I was about to leave, before she changed her mind and agreed to 180 k.

I put the money on her dresser and asked for a shower using body language. She was very accommodating and patient. After I showered she dried me off and we began to hug. I took off her sheer lingerie and she immediately began oral sex. Her skills were so good with her tongue that I had to stop her head motion and move away. We continued on her bed and had basic missionary sex. Her breasts are bolted on, but it didn't kill my vibe, because her body was amazing. She is so tiny in person. The only complaint I had was she did not smell the freshest in her armpits. Maybe thirty minutes in I finished inside her. After I finished I was able to rest inside her for about five minutes before I moved and she allowed me another shower. After the shower she motioned for me to relax with her on the bed.

I watched her interact on three separate phones while guys messaged her in Korean, Spanish, and English. She told me she was a part time teacher. After I took a nap, she woke me up so I could leave at a decent time. The entire encounter lasted slightly less than two hours. I tipped her another 20 k for the power nap. August comes around and I wanted to book her again, but by that time she had a Korean sponsor who was simp / supplying her life. She created an onlyfans and another premium account. She continued to tell me she couldn't make time, because of her boyfriend. I haven't tried since then.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the very detailed info. I tried messaging her like a month ago but got an abrupt reply and then it all just stopped. Apparently there are a lot of other Latin ladies out there and I'll check' them out. After reading about your experience, I think I'll not try contacting her again since it seems to be a waste of time nowadays and, as another member also said, communication isn't smooth.

Hello there,

I am hoping that you guys can recommend me some Thai ladies.

Massage shops or "escorts", I am okay with either as long as you guys have tried the service and do sincerely recommend it.

After reading that post titled "A Sensual Thai Massage in Sinseoldong", I visited the said location and, unfortunately, the place was closed. (I do not mean closed for good. It was just closed for the time that I visited.).

I prefer going Hongdae or the area nearby.

Any help?

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2504486]Thanks for the info. Yeah, I also texted her and she was abrupt then stopped replying. However, that was like a month ago. I'll think about trying again.[/QUOTE]No problem. We are here to help each other. Her communication is horrible, but she is in high demand. I hope you have success and hopefully don't overpay with the foreigner tax.

Long time fellas. So since the shop scene is pretty much dead compared to the rest of Korea I've been hitting Tinder and a few sites. Found a couple escorts. If you have Line the ID's are.

Linlin692 she is a tight little spinner that was 120 k 2 shots. I think she is Thai. I beat that P up for almost the full hour and now she keeps asking for coffee but hence all the cafes are closed.

Then there is Haraxkorea3 that I have not met yet.

Happy hunting.

Hey guys,

I'm new here, thought ID share some of my Korean experiences since I love it there. Plus some questions too.

Anyway 2 years ago I was on the hill with my mate and we sussed it out to see if there was any hotties, in general the talent was not that good, but as we went down the hill and turned left, this small bar door opened and this hot af kpop looking thing ushered me and my mate inside, I was in awe of her and just went for it. She had long black hair, naturally beautiful face and nice slim body with decent curves and rack. My type. In there was another girl who was also pretty hot but the initial girl for me was the best.

I immediately called dibs on her and we went to the back of the bar where two beds were separated by curtains. Kinda weird knowing your mate is only a curtain away having sex next to you but it is what it is. The girl I was keen on started stripping and things just got better from there. From memory I paid her 100,000 won for the fuck, ignoring the 20,000 drink fee she wanted. Bartered down too as I did my research, but she was so hot I thought ID pay premium anyways. She started to get on top of me and man her smooth skin got me rock hard, then we started fucking and she moaned like crazy during it, felt sorry for my mate who had to hear it but I wasn't thinking of that at the time. The moaning along with how hot she is was the best combo you could get. She could be faking but hey we know paid girls can be just as boring in bed so at least she is trying to do a good job: the.

Anyway I finished after going missionary and doggy. I was so impressed by her I even accepted her offer for the drink when she asked again. Yes I caved in, but fuck quality of that type for that price is hard to find so I reckon I got a good deal anyway. She was almost a 9/10 for me, bloody rare in a dodgy rld. What I regretted was not asking for her kakao! Usually these girls accept kakao as well from my time there and sadly ill never see her again.

In regards to questions, what's the club thing that people talk about here in castle anma.

And also what are the rows a be see in the cheonho RLD?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2507497]Long time fellas. So since the shop scene is pretty much dead compared to the rest of Korea I've been hitting Tinder and a few sites. Found a couple escorts. If you have Line the ID's are.

Linlin692 she is a tight little spinner that was 120 k 2 shots. I think she is Thai. I beat that P up for almost the full hour and now she keeps asking for coffee but hence all the cafes are closed.

Then there is Haraxkorea3 that I have not met yet.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]What are the main operating RLDS in Seoul now?

Hill, Cheonho, Mirari, Yepungdo?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2507497]Long time fellas. So since the shop scene is pretty much dead compared to the rest of Korea I've been hitting Tinder and a few sites. Found a couple escorts. If you have Line the ID's are.

Linlin692 she is a tight little spinner that was 120 k 2 shots. I think she is Thai. I beat that P up for almost the full hour and now she keeps asking for coffee but hence all the cafes are closed.

Then there is Haraxkorea3 that I have not met yet.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Hello,

I checked out these two gals.

A few things that I'd like to add.

Linlin692 is probably Vietnamese, not Thai.

Haraxkorea3 - Half Thai, Half Vietnamese, her quote is 200,000 1 hour 1 shot.

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2508107]Hello,

I checked out these two gals.

A few things that I'd like to add.

Linlin692 is probably Vietnamese, not Thai.

Haraxkorea3 - Half Thai, Half Vietnamese, her quote is 200,000 1 hour 1 shot.[/QUOTE]Jesus 200,000 for one shot and an hour. Must be that CV19 economy. Did you try her out?

Someone hit up Hxxo234 she messaged me on Tinder I've been to busy to reach out to her. If your up for MFM check out Fetlife their is a hottie on there that loves MFM but you have to record it for her man. My boy and I used her a whole night last week.

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2508107]Hello,

I checked out these two gals.

A few things that I'd like to add.

Linlin692 is probably Vietnamese, not Thai.

Haraxkorea3 - Half Thai, Half Vietnamese, her quote is 200,000 1 hour 1 shot.[/QUOTE]Are they 100% women? I also looked and wasn't sure from the pics.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2508348]Jesus 200,000 for one shot and an hour. Must be that CV19 economy. Did you try her out?

Someone hit up Hxxo234 she messaged me on Tinder I've been to busy to reach out to her. If your up for MFM check out Fetlife their is a hottie on there that loves MFM but you have to record it for her man. My boy and I used her a whole night last week.[/QUOTE]I didn't try her out. I asked for a discount and she cut down the price to 150,000.

[QUOTE=MrTarzan;2508480]Are they 100% women? I also looked and wasn't sure from the pics.[/QUOTE]The one I did meet up with was a female. Have not even reached out to the other 2 on line, they just hit me up on Tinder.

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2508107]Hello,

I checked out these two gals.

A few things that I'd like to add.

Linlin692 is probably Vietnamese, not Thai.

Haraxkorea3 - Half Thai, Half Vietnamese, her quote is 200,000 1 hour 1 shot.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right. Lin is Vietnamese. Hara. No reply as of yet.

Does anybody have the current edition of adal# and / or sweetbam? I saw casualfunseoul's previous post mentioning them from about two years ago but can't pull anything up on google.

Went for a walk last night and stumbled upon a Thai place that was inexplicably open despite the current conditions. Its called Yebon and near Mapo station, on the 3rd floor of a building. 45 k for 60 min, 65 k for 90 min Thai massage. I asked the older woman working the counter about extras and she told me, "I don't know what goes on once you're in the room". I've found this to be as resounding of a "yes" as you can get in most Thai places, whereas many will flatly tell you that they don't do that. Took the hour, changed into the clothes and waited in the room. About 10 minutes later a cute enough 20 something Thai girl comes in. Gave a pretty good massage even though I think she was sorta watching something on her phone while doing it. (even at the cheap prices in Thai places this seems sorta ridiculous to me). She didn't really speak Korean or English so the communication was rough, but eventually asked if I wanted more. I think the menu was pretty open, but we settled on a standard he with her clothes off for 40 k (I think), as the communication was near impossible. She had pretty nice big fake tits and let me roam downstairs a bit but then sort of readjusted so I couldn't. Service was pretty good, no rush or anything. Afterwards she cleaned me up and finished out the clock with a little more massage and stretching. I gave her the 40 k and she looked really surprised so maybe I misunderstood even though that's a pretty standard rate. All in all I'd probably repeat since it's close to me, but I wouldn't say it's worth traveling to.

Anyone else explore some new spots recently?

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2508107]Hello,

I checked out these two gals.

A few things that I'd like to add.

Linlin692 is probably Vietnamese, not Thai.

Haraxkorea3 - Half Thai, Half Vietnamese, her quote is 200,000 1 hour 1 shot.[/QUOTE]LinLin looks laughably trans. Hideous, in fact.

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2511891]Went for a walk last night and stumbled upon a Thai place that was inexplicably open despite the current conditions. Its called Yebon and near Mapo station, on the 3rd floor of a building. 45 k for 60 min, 65 k for 90 min Thai massage. I asked the older woman working the counter about extras and she told me, "I don't know what goes on once you're in the room". I've found this to be as resounding of a "yes" as you can get in most Thai places, whereas many will flatly tell you that they don't do that. Took the hour, changed into the clothes and waited in the room. About 10 minutes later a cute enough 20 something Thai girl comes in. Gave a pretty good massage even though I think she was sorta watching something on her phone while doing it. (even at the cheap prices in Thai places this seems sorta ridiculous to me). She didn't really speak Korean or English so the communication was rough, but eventually asked if I wanted more. I think the menu was pretty open, but we settled on a standard he with her clothes off for 40 k (I think), as the communication was near impossible. She had pretty nice big fake tits and let me roam downstairs a bit but then sort of readjusted so I couldn't. Service was pretty good, no rush or anything. Afterwards she cleaned me up and finished out the clock with a little more massage and stretching. I gave her the 40 k and she looked really surprised so maybe I misunderstood even though that's a pretty standard rate. All in all I'd probably repeat since it's close to me, but I wouldn't say it's worth traveling to.

Anyone else explore some new spots recently?[/QUOTE]No new spots, but just a comment. Whenever I've gone to a Thai massage place I've had to wait 10-30 minutes for the masseuse to come, and often it seems like the has just arrived at the place of business. I suspect they are not there all the time but come out from either where they're living or some central dispatch place or another parlor when there is a customer.

If you can read Korean, check the site thaiinfo for other locations. That can sometimes get you a discount on the listed price if you mention the site.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2512916]No new spots, but just a comment. Whenever I've gone to a Thai massage place I've had to wait 10-30 minutes for the masseuse to come, and often it seems like the has just arrived at the place of business. I suspect they are not there all the time but come out from either where they're living or some central dispatch place or another parlor when there is a customer.

If you can read Korean, check the site thaiinfo for other locations. That can sometimes get you a discount on the listed price if you mention the site.[/QUOTE]I've noticed this too. Unless you catch them as they're finishing up another massage, it seems like the person at the counter calls them to come and you can even hear them coming through the front door. Doesn't necessarily bother me, but I always wish I had an idea of how long I'd be waiting. Thanks for the the link, from my experience most places will try anything to not give you those discount prices, but its always worth a shot and sometimes saves you some money.

[QUOTE=MoistCyst;2513417]Not sure about the rest but Korea BBFS is default.[/QUOTE]I'm taking this quote from the Thailand threads. Is this true? It certainly wasn't my experience in Seoul with automatic BBFS from girls.

I've had many successes with outcall Thai massage services (massage+FS) but would like to try an escort as the massage girls are hit or miss. Does anyone know why so many independent non-Korean escorts put "no blacks" in their ads? I understand there's a stigma in America with young mongers mistreating escorts but I didn't expect to encounter that verbiage in South Korea of all places by non-Koreans. Many of them do not have it in ad but will ask "are you black?" after all details of appointment have been finalized. If you say yes, expect to be ghosted / blocked.

It's to my understanding that most blacks in Korea are military men who have money and probably aren't going to risk their career over meeting with or scamming an escort and then there are the African migrant workers who I'll assume couldn't afford escorts anyways.

I've been to many FS massage shops with Chinese / Korean / Thai providers and they had no problem with race. What's with the expat escorts?

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2515559]I've had many successes with outcall Thai massage services (massage+FS) but would like to try an escort as the massage girls are hit or miss. Does anyone know why so many independent non-Korean escorts put "no blacks" in their ads? I understand there's a stigma in America with young mongers mistreating escorts but I didn't expect to encounter that verbiage in South Korea of all places by non-Koreans. Many of them do not have it in ad but will ask "are you black?" after all details of appointment have been finalized. If you say yes, expect to be ghosted / blocked.

It's to my understanding that most blacks in Korea are military men who have money and probably aren't going to risk their career over meeting with or scamming an escort and then there are the African migrant workers who I'll assume couldn't afford escorts anyways.

I've been to many FS massage shops with Chinese / Korean / Thai providers and they had no problem with race. What's with the expat escorts? [/QUOTE]On my visit back to Korea in 2018-2019 I find the flirting with the Koreans female work the same as back in day, they all have their preferences picked up on post and in the clubs only problem I had was to old to get into some club. I didn't pick up escorts, remember Korea is a status country clean cut looking the part you can pull a lot of free sex.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2515559]I've had many successes with outcall Thai massage services (massage+FS) but would like to try an escort as the massage girls are hit or miss. Does anyone know why so many independent non-Korean escorts put "no blacks" in their ads? I understand there's a stigma in America with young mongers mistreating escorts but I didn't expect to encounter that verbiage in South Korea of all places by non-Koreans. Many of them do not have it in ad but will ask "are you black?" after all details of appointment have been finalized. If you say yes, expect to be ghosted / blocked.

It's to my understanding that most blacks in Korea are military men who have money and probably aren't going to risk their career over meeting with or scamming an escort and then there are the African migrant workers who I'll assume couldn't afford escorts anyways.

I've been to many FS massage shops with Chinese / Korean / Thai providers and they had no problem with race. What's with the expat escorts?[/QUOTE]You bring up an interesting situation. I always say up front that I am a foreigner to set expectations and the majority of the time I have no issues. They only care about the color green from my experience.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2515559]I've had many successes with outcall Thai massage services (massage+FS) but would like to try an escort as the massage girls are hit or miss. Does anyone know why so many independent non-Korean escorts put "no blacks" in their ads? [/QUOTE]Escorts are also a hit and miss, more so than the Thai massage services. Just go with the people who want to service you and get paid for it, if they don't move on.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2513465]I'm taking this quote from the Thailand threads. Is this true? It certainly wasn't my experience in Seoul with automatic BBFS from girls.[/QUOTE]The RLDs, Anmas, Barbershops, clubs, non pros and even the Hill when it was jumping are all places where the girls offered covered FS. Can't remember anytime in Korea when BBFS was the norm, not to say I didn't get it but it was not widely offered up as it is in other countries.

I've been in the heart of the RLD of Pyongteak the last few days. I've noticed something here, the girls are in glass houses, and the men are in cars is this the same thing as street work back in America? I even saw a place called, in English, car service with a girl inside. Some have responded to me, mostly during the day, but when all the cars are out the are cold to me. Do you need a car in the Pyongteak RLD to get most girls?

I never found this the same in Mirari, is this the same in the Cheonho district? I don't like Mirari because you don't see the girl until last minute and they are usually old. TIA.

Hey folks,

I arrived in South Korea Pyeongtaek, about two weeks ago. It's a little challenging trying to monger with the covid restrictions in place but I have managed to have a few Thai massage ladies come to my hotel for massages, was hoping to get a Korean lady. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Bruno26;2516054]Hey folks,

I arrived in South Korea Pyeongtaek, about two weeks ago. It's a little challenging trying to monger with the covid restrictions in place but I have managed to have a few Thai massage ladies come to my hotel for massages, was hoping to get a Korean lady. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]How about a report on the Thai massage ladies with details and cost?

[QUOTE=RunMann;2515830]The RLDs, Anmas, Barbershops, clubs, non pros and even the Hill when it was jumping are all places where the girls offered covered FS. Can't remember anytime in Korea when BBFS was the norm, not to say I didn't get it but it was not widely offered up as it is in other countries.[/QUOTE]Thanks RM. I was just confirming the guy who posted in the Thailand forum was a troll. So many posts on the Thailand forums are "fake news".

[QUOTE=Bruno26;2516054]Hey folks,

I arrived in South Korea Pyeongtaek, about two weeks ago. It's a little challenging trying to monger with the covid restrictions in place but I have managed to have a few Thai massage ladies come to my hotel for massages, was hoping to get a Korean lady. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]How did you even find those Thai ladies?

Any one in particular that you would recommend?

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2515810]You bring up an interesting situation. I always say up front that I am a foreigner to set expectations and the majority of the time I have no issues. They only care about the color green from my experience.[/QUOTE]What's strange is that they are open to foreigners but some don't want black foreigners. Even though there are less black foreigners than any other demographic in Korea. The few black foreigners who do exist that could afford or even consider their inflated prices surely wouldn't be a safety risk". It would be like if an escort in a state like North Carolina, USA put "No Asians" in their ads.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2516375]What's strange is that they are open to foreigners but some don't want black foreigners. Even though there are less black foreigners than any other demographic in Korea. The few black foreigners who do exist that could afford or even consider their inflated prices surely wouldn't be a safety risk". It would be like if an escort in a state like North Carolina, USA put "No Asians" in their ads.[/QUOTE]"No black" is pretty common everywhere.

It has to do with them wanting to play the numbers game: they want to service multiple guys a day but by accepting a black guy they run the risk of being too sore afterwards and not able to service anyone else.

Sex providers want the opposite from you; they like you more if you're small and a quick shot.

[QUOTE=Asifou293;2516310]How did you even find those Thai ladies?

Any one in particular that you would recommend?[/QUOTE]I am new to Korean so I just walking around town and writing down the numbers of MP's that were open 24/7. Then download KakaoTalk, did a search on the app by name or the phone number then message them. The ask me where do I live and what type of massage do I want. Then after the massage they asked do I want anything else. Did it twice with to different MP's. Both times were Thai, I asked only for a massage the first time, second time got FS covered, massage was 80,000 Korean Won. FS covered was 200,000. Thai was a spinner, nothing to write home about.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2516375]What's strange is that they are open to foreigners but some don't want black foreigners. Even though there are less black foreigners than any other demographic in Korea. The few black foreigners who do exist that could afford or even consider their inflated prices surely wouldn't be a safety risk". It would be like if an escort in a state like North Carolina, USA put "No Asians" in their ads.[/QUOTE]Difficult to be honest about what I have heard without being rude, because it just is. I asked a few providers on The Hill about this one. The size thing was mentioned, but not until after I was given an earful of stories about disease / AIDS, blacks misbehaving and causing problems. Not GI black guys. Mostly African black guys (Nigerians, etc). About 3 years ago, an African customer visited a bar next to where the Turkish bakery was, and the girl was working alone there. Afterward he refused to pay, and beat the hell out of the girl. Smashed her ribs, etc. It was terrible. She could have died. Luckily she was able to call another girl over to get her help. She never came back.

In fact, the girls are pretty cool about the GI types (knew one provider that married her black beau and moved to the states, years ago). I heard the dislike of black guys has gotten worse in more recent years as the quality of black clients switched from clean cut soldier types to Africans they fear carry disease, or could attack them.

I would probably go to a bar where you can buy them drinks and show them you are a good person, first.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2516375]What's strange is that they are open to foreigners but some don't want black foreigners. Even though there are less black foreigners than any other demographic in Korea. The few black foreigners who do exist that could afford or even consider their inflated prices surely wouldn't be a safety risk". It would be like if an escort in a state like North Carolina, USA put "No Asians" in their ads.[/QUOTE]If you are Black you are more likely to be associated with the military, and depending how the Army plays with local businesses if they get wind of young troopers heading off to sex service places even though they have been pummeled with the Trafficking in Persons training they use the heavy hand and place it off limits. That means MPs will post up outside and drive away business. If you are not Black, they figure the odds are in their favor of you being not associated with the military and take a chance. Seems the opposite sometimes here in Japan. If they see someone Black, they more than likely assume you are an "African" and not associated with the military and would be bad for business since they tend to deal more in illegal activities. If you are an American maybe a little more leeway is given due to the fact they can call for local police who will hand you over to Shore Patrol and ruin liberty for everyone.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2516375]What's strange is that they are open to foreigners but some don't want black foreigners. Even though there are less black foreigners than any other demographic in Korea. The few black foreigners who do exist that could afford or even consider their inflated prices surely wouldn't be a safety risk". It would be like if an escort in a state like North Carolina, USA put "No Asians" in their ads.[/QUOTE]Prostitutes want to earn money by taking minimum risks, the risk is not the size of the dick, they don't care, but just have a look on the % of black people jailed vs population in the US, in France 90% of the jailed people have a migration background (mostly Muslim) so the prostitutes are looking for 50+ man, white more or less Christian paying good and may be not having sex.

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2517095]If you are Black you are more likely to be associated with the military, and depending how the Army plays with local businesses if they get wind of young troopers heading off to sex service places even though they have been pummeled with the Trafficking in Persons training they use the heavy hand and place it off limits. That means MPs will post up outside and drive away business. If you are not Black, they figure the odds are in their favor of you being not associated with the military and take a chance. Seems the opposite sometimes here in Japan. If they see someone Black, they more than likely assume you are an "African" and not associated with the military and would be bad for business since they tend to deal more in illegal activities. If you are an American maybe a little more leeway is given due to the fact they can call for local police who will hand you over to Shore Patrol and ruin liberty for everyone.[/QUOTE]That might hold true for places near military bases but that's not what I'm talking about. Local massage parlors and RLDs don't seem to care about having black customers. The only ones I've noticed with the strange American styled "no blacks" memo from are Independent non-Korean escorts. Surprisingly I've never been denied service by Korean, Thai or Chinese providers.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2516375]What's strange is that they are open to foreigners but some don't want black foreigners. Even though there are less black foreigners than any other demographic in Korea. The few black foreigners who do exist that could afford or even consider their inflated prices surely wouldn't be a safety risk". It would be like if an escort in a state like North Carolina, USA put "No Asians" in their ads.[/QUOTE]There will always be a stigma with Black men and somehow all black men will get stereotyped in the same group. I say enjoy your time in Korea. There is literally sex everywhere and many providers who will take your money and provide exceptional service. There are many hot spot areas that are discussed throughout the threads. Honestly, it is better to know you are not welcomed upfront instead of someone wasting your time and providing a mechanical experience. I have seen places, especially around military cities that have 'no foreigners allowed' signs up. Just laugh and keep it moving. Pre pandemic was easier to speak with many females who were attending the women's universities and the possibilities were endless. Stay motivated.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2517222]There will always be a stigma with Black men and somehow all black men will get stereotyped in the same group. I say enjoy your time in Korea. There is literally sex everywhere and many providers who will take your money and provide exceptional service. There are many hot spot areas that are discussed throughout the threads. Honestly, it is better to know you are not welcomed upfront instead of someone wasting your time and providing a mechanical experience. I have seen places, especially around military cities that have 'no foreigners allowed' signs up. Just laugh and keep it moving. Pre pandemic was easier to speak with many females who were attending the women's universities and the possibilities were endless. Stay motivated.[/QUOTE]I've lived in Korea for many years now. Getting laid here through tinder is way too easy compared to the states. I use massage and escort for something quick, NSA and to the point. And I don't find Korean girls to be so attractive anymore. Sex is just bleh with them.

I'm really craving Filipinas but Filipina escorts are super rare. The one who used to post on MR looked plastic / trans. Need a classic slim Filipina spinner.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2504264]When the pandemic hit Korea hard around February, my trip to Thailand was canceled. I had her as a contingency plan just in case something crazy happened. I got her contact from top escorts and ran a reference check to all messaging platforms to see what she used. I decided to go with Kakao since it doesn't track online status. I messaged her in English and as soon as she sent a question mark, I switched to Spanish using Google translate. It took about a week of coordinating my schedule to finalize a meeting. She was very trusting, because she gave me the address to her home. The text price for an hour was 160,000₩. In person I told her I wanted full access to her body and bareback. She hesitated and said no. I was about to leave, before she changed her mind and agreed to 180 k.

I put the money on her dresser and asked for a shower using body language. She was very accommodating and patient. After I showered she dried me off and we began to hug. I took off her sheer lingerie and she immediately began oral sex. Her skills were so good with her tongue that I had to stop her head motion and move away. We continued on her bed and had basic missionary sex. Her breasts are bolted on, but it didn't kill my vibe, because her body was amazing. She is so tiny in person. The only complaint I had was she did not smell the freshest in her armpits. Maybe thirty minutes in I finished inside her. After I finished I was able to rest inside her for about five minutes before I moved and she allowed me another shower. After the shower she motioned for me to relax with her on the bed..[/QUOTE]Does she look better in person? The videos and and pictures almost make her look trans and it's off putting.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2517802]I've lived in Korea for many years now. Getting laid here through tinder is way too easy compared to the states. I use massage and escort for something quick, NSA and to the point. And I don't find Korean girls to be so attractive anymore. Sex is just bleh with them.

I'm really craving Filipinas but Filipina escorts are super rare. The one who used to post on MR looked plastic / trans. Need a classic slim Filipina spinner.[/QUOTE]If you have been in Korea for years, you should already know the hot spots for Filipinas. Pohang, Seoul, Gunsan, and Cheongju districts are just a few places with them. You should never have to ever settle for using the overpriced and Western catered MR. You might as well purchase a roundtrip vacation for a week to one of the Spanish speaking islands of the Philippines. You will still have money left over for the women for days.

So I was in Mapo with sometime to kill. Tried one massage place but they were closed then walked to another that is on the main drag 2nd floor above SK gas. Went with the 1 hour Aroma. 45,000 the girl was Thai cute but a little chubby. Her name was Nancy. She had the flirty Thai girl down pat. Of course started with the " oh you so handsome routine" had some chit chat about her work, my tattoos and so on. As we were finishing up she was playful about touching my the. Then asked what extra I wanted. 30 k for HJ 40 for BJ and finish in hand then 100 k for FS. I decided on the BJ with some touching. Her head game was pretty good had a decent deep throat I love when they gag and she picked up on it so she was gagging herself making it nice and sloppy she took her time instead of the rapid pace so many try and do. I blew my load in her mouth and she swallowed. She just laughed and said " why no finish with hand" I told her she was just to good to which she said thank you with a cute little laugh. She did as for a tip so I gave her the 5 k change and she then asked for my Line ID. I shall be banging her outside the shop this week. I've found its much easier to get them to know what you are wanting if you don't wear those tight ass shoots they give you. I've never put them on once when wanting more then a massage. All in all it was 100 k for a pretty good massage and a BBBJ CIM. Keep mongering men.

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2518226]If you have been in Korea for years, you should already know the hot spots for Filipinas. Pohang, Seoul, Gunsan, and Cheongju districts are just a few places with them. You should never have to ever settle for using the overpriced and Western catered MR. You might as well purchase a roundtrip vacation for a week to one of the Spanish speaking islands of the Philippines. You will still have money left over for the women for days.[/QUOTE]New to Seoul so where are the Pinays other then The Hill?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2509594]The one I did meet up with was a female. Have not even reached out to the other 2 on line, they just hit me up on Tinder.[/QUOTE]So who did you meet? Hara?

[QUOTE=Malcolm89;2518226]If you have been in Korea for years, you should already know the hot spots for Filipinas. Pohang, Seoul, Gunsan, and Cheongju districts are just a few places with them.[/QUOTE]Bars? MPs? When you say places with them, it begs the question of how to find / contact them.

Hi,

I have 2 questions.

How are things on the hill nowadays?

Where can I get Viagra when visiting Seoul from Busan?

TIA.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2521275]Hi,

I have 2 questions.

How are things on the hill nowadays?

Where can I get Viagra when visiting Seoul from Busan (without a prescription)? I'll just be casually traveling and don't want to see a doctor and all that.

TIA.[/QUOTE]Viagra without a prescription as I'll just be traveling for a few days and don't want to see a doctor etc.

[QUOTE=Iseoulu;2516022]I've been in the heart of the RLD of Pyongteak the last few days. I've noticed something here, the girls are in glass houses, and the men are in cars is this the same thing as street work back in America? I even saw a place called, in English, car service with a girl inside. Some have responded to me, mostly during the day, but when all the cars are out the are cold to me. Do you need a car in the Pyongteak RLD to get most girls?

I never found this the same in Mirari, is this the same in the Cheonho district? I don't like Mirari because you don't see the girl until last minute and they are usually old. TIA.[/QUOTE]The girls are cold as they are generally off limit to foreigners (at least non-East Asian foreigners). If no Korean men are around and business is slow, anything is possible though. Generally though I see some Southeast Asian girls here (probably Viet) try to call me in, but not Korean girls.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2518274]So I was in Mapo with sometime to kill. Tried one massage place but they were closed then walked to another that is on the main drag 2nd floor above SK gas. Went with the 1 hour Aroma. 45,000 the girl was Thai cute but a little chubby. Her name was Nancy. She had the flirty Thai girl down pat. Of course started with the " oh you so handsome routine" had some chit chat about her work, my tattoos and so on. As we were finishing up she was playful about touching my the. Then asked what extra I wanted. 30 k for HJ 40 for BJ and finish in hand then 100 k for FS. I decided on the BJ with some touching. Her head game was pretty good had a decent deep throat I love when they gag and she picked up on it so she was gagging herself making it nice and sloppy she took her time instead of the rapid pace so many try and do. I blew my load in her mouth and she swallowed. She just laughed and said " why no finish with hand" I told her she was just to good to which she said thank you with a cute little laugh. She did as for a tip so I gave her the 5 k change and she then asked for my Line ID. I shall be banging her outside the shop this week. I've found its much easier to get them to know what you are wanting if you don't wear those tight ass shoots they give you. I've never put them on once when wanting more then a massage. All in all it was 100 k for a pretty good massage and a BBBJ CIM. Keep mongering men.[/QUOTE]Checked this place out the other night, similar experience / menu. The girl I got was less cute and more chubby, but the massage was really good. Usually I'll take that trade-off, I hate when the massage sucks. She was not shy at all about the extras and even tried to up-sell me a bit, I think everything is on the table.

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2524094]Checked this place out the other night, similar experience / menu. The girl I got was less cute and more chubby, but the massage was really good. Usually I'll take that trade-off, I hate when the massage sucks. She was not shy at all about the extras and even tried to up-sell me a bit, I think everything is on the table.[/QUOTE]What was the girls name? Went back the other day and was offered FS for 150 k.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2525707]What was the girls name? Went back the other day and was offered FS for 150 k.[/QUOTE]I probably wouldn't want to repeat with her so I didn't ask. She didn't speak much English or Korean, so we only really spoke when negotiating the service.

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2525994]I probably wouldn't want to repeat with her so I didn't ask. She didn't speak much English or Korean, so we only really spoke when negotiating the service.[/QUOTE]What service option did you choose? Both girls I've had were Thai and spoke decent English.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2526250]What service option did you choose? Both girls I've had were Thai and spoke decent English.[/QUOTE]I gave her 40 k for a standard he w / touching and her naked. I went pretty late at night, so depending on when you went it's possible we could be dealing with entirely different shifts.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2525707]What was the girls name? Went back the other day and was offered FS for 150 k.[/QUOTE]Where exactly in mapo is this place?

I had totally missed this.

No personal reports as of yet, but the Resumes section of CL seems to have a few "models" advertising. Check it out, and report back. The ads tend to get deleted within a day or so.

I went to Sion Thai today. It's at 14 Jongno10 gil. That's Jongno2 ga, between the big road and the road along the stream. Up on the 4th floor. The elevator faces directly onto the street which is weird. The place is big and bright and looks clean but I don't know how often they change the sheets on the bed or the towels they lay across the pillows.

I had a young slim Thai masseuse. I chose the 1 hour aroma oil option. 40 k. It's 30 k if you choose dry Thai style.

Her massage skills were not good. She basically just rubbed my back over nad over again in a very boring way, and then moved onto my arms and legs and repeated the process. So that was a letdown.

For the first time at a Thai massage place, she actually offered "service". When I said yes she said it was 30 k. I offered 50 k to see what it would get me. She said service with touching. I said ok. But she kept her tshirt on and just undid her bra, so that I could feel her titties under the tshirt. That's 90 k all up for a mediocre massage and a HJ with under the shirt boob fondle. I will not be going back. There are other masseuses and they may not all be the same, but why take that chance?

I was in Korea in the mid to late 90's and I see not much has changed. I admire all of you for mongering in what I believe is one of the most difficult countries to hobby for foreigners. If you are not Korean or Korean-looking and fluent in the language, you will find it nearly impossible to have an A-class experience. The standard is early 20's and BBFSCIP. The guys I ran with wouldn't go near a girl even 25. Having said that, keep trying because Korean women are among the best in the world.

Leaving Korea soon and would like to try this for the first time. I'm open to anything under 200 k. Any recommendation for massages or whatever else is out there? I also see Thai massages around itaewon, are all of those places to blow a load? Excuse my ignorance LOL.

[QUOTE=Dopeview;2532016]Leaving Korea soon and would like to try this for the first time. I'm open to anything under 200 k. Any recommendation for massages or whatever else is out there? I also see Thai massages around itaewon, are all of those places to blow a load? Excuse my ignorance LOL.[/QUOTE]Iteawon is pretty a done deal unless you find a place on The Hill open but those are straight sex no massage. Mapo has a few places I have hit up. Gangnam also has quite a few Thai places offering extras.

So I ventured back to Mapo near the world cup stadium. Found this spot. It is pretty upscale it is on the 5th floor of the KB bank building. Walked in was told had about a 20 minute wait. I decided to go with the 90 min Aroma for 55 k. You change before you go back to the rooms. So I had to wait in their movie room once changed. Waited about 25 minutes then was asked to come sit for my foot bath. The girl was a thick Thai chick wearing booty shorts and t-shirt. Once my feet were washed I was taken to the back through a locked door. The rooms are nice but no doors just a curtain. Undressed and as always was just naked I never wear those BS mesh undies. The massage was good spent a lot of time working my shoulders and ass cheeks which of course she was not shy about touching my tool. Had some sweet talking her English wasn't bad. Then flip over were she spent a lot of time working my groin area which had me at full attention. She then asked if I wanted service. Its 40 k no touching her 50 k she takes her top off. I went with the 50 because I wanted to see them tits. I asked about FS she said the shop did not allow it. The HJ was pretty good she was even throwing some dirty talk in while she stroked. Played and sucked on her tits and even had my hand in her pants rubbing her ass. I shot my load and she was saying things like "yes oh I want to taste it". She cleaned me up. Massaged my neck and hands asking if I wanted to sleep there. I got up dressed and of course asked her for her Line. She gave it to me and we shall be getting together on her holiday Sunday because she wants to try the big size. Which by the way I am slightly over average. LOL Pics won't attach. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2532908]So I ventured back to Mapo near the world cup stadium. Found this spot. It is pretty upscale it is on the 5th floor of the KB bank building. Walked in was told had about a 20 minute wait. I decided to go with the 90 min Aroma for 55 k. You change before you go back to the rooms. So I had to wait in their movie room once changed. Waited about 25 minutes then was asked to come sit for my foot bath. The girl was a thick Thai chick wearing booty shorts and t-shirt. Once my feet were washed I was taken to the back through a locked door. The rooms are nice but no doors just a curtain. Undressed and as always was just naked I never wear those BS mesh undies. The massage was good spent a lot of time working my shoulders and ass cheeks which of course she was not shy about touching my tool. Had some sweet talking her English wasn't bad. Then flip over were she spent a lot of time working my groin area which had me at full attention. She then asked if I wanted service. Its 40 k no touching her 50 k she takes her top off. I went with the 50 because I wanted to see them tits. I asked about FS she said the shop did not allow it. The HJ was pretty good she was even throwing some dirty talk in while she stroked. Played and sucked on her tits and even had my hand in her pants rubbing her ass. I shot my load and she was saying things like "yes oh I want to taste it". She cleaned me up. Massaged my neck and hands asking if I wanted to sleep there. I got up dressed and of course asked her for her Line. She gave it to me and we shall be getting together on her holiday Sunday because she wants to try the big size. Which by the way I am slightly over average. LOL Pics won't attach. Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Where is this at? Tried looking around but can't seem to find it. Its by the world cup stadium or closer to Mangwon?

Hi,

Has anybody been up the hill recently? I'll be traveling to Seoul again all the way from Busan and will be up there for a week. I want to get sure action and can only think of hooker hill for that.

Any news on places with actual action (please, no trans stuff) will be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Last weekend went and checked out a Thai spot near Gongdeok Station, called Healing Thai on the 3rd floor of an older building. Interior was nice, almost worried it might be too legit for what I wanted. Prices are cheap and maybe even cheaper if you show them the thaiinfo ad. Didn't bring my phone, so I ended up doing the 90 minute Thai massage for 50 k. Girl I got was average to slightly chubby, but pretty nice big tits in a low cut t-shirt and jean booty shorts. Gave me a foot bath then off to the room. Massage was really good, one of the best Thai massages I've had in Korea, especially at the price. About 50 minutes in I flipped over and she did my legs and got right up in my groin quite a bit and got me going, then asked if I wanted service. 30 k for a standard he, wouldn't take her clothes off but did take her shirt and bra up and let me play with 'them. Technique was slow and good, no rush at all. Afterwards finished up the rest of the massage and I was on my way. Not a Thai connoisseur by any means, but overall probably the best experience I've had, especially when factoring in the price.

I know you guys haven't just been sitting at home, who else has been out there?

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2534237]Where is this at? Tried looking around but can't seem to find it. Its by the world cup stadium or closer to Mangwon?[/QUOTE]Here is the address.

5th floor, 481-1 Mangwon-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul.

I tried to hit up healing Thai from your other post but they were closed.

[QUOTE=OutsiderX;2534540]if you show them the thaiinfo ad.[/QUOTE]Excuse the ignorance but I couldn't find any information on thaiinfo.

What's that?

Hi all,

First posting.

255, Dobong-ro, Gangbuk-gu, Seoul.

The atmosphere is a little dusty, prices appear a little high.

Oil 60.000.

Includes HJ / BJ.

FS negotiable +80.000 (50.000 would've worked but I liked both.).

Chubby newbie one talks too much, but warm-hearted and fun. Remind her to drink hot water before BJ LOL.

Somewhat distracted. I didn't come and she really put all effort in which is a turn-off. I laughed it off, told her that I was a pervert and she couldn't make me happy anyways.

The "Pro" seems to be mixed race. Tattooed, funny, light-hearted. Sex with her was fun, upbeat. Went down on her. And she on me. She synchronized well. Great dancer, I would guess. Came after a couple of moves. Asked if she would like to climax, changed the condom and after 10 more minutes we were both happy.

Isn't it nice to meet good partners?

Shower, sincere thanks to the 아51200;50472; and great Gomtang in the market next door.

Nice afternoon. 226.000 including early dinner.

Love is all around us.

Phil.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2521275]Hi,

I have 2 questions.

How are things on the hill nowadays?

Where can I get Viagra when visiting Seoul from Busan?

TIA.[/QUOTE]Any Pharmacy will sell you Sildenafil. 20 k for 4 pills à 100 MG. You probably have 8 doses with that.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2535447]Excuse the ignorance but I couldn't find any information on thaiinfo.

What's that?[/QUOTE]Thaiinfo is a Korean website with ads for Thai massage places. Sometimes they'll have discounted prices, so if you show them the listing on the site you'll get a better price. Usually not more than a 5 k discount, but nothing wrong with saving a few bucks.

[QUOTE=PhilSidena;2536043]Hi all,
Oil 60.000.

Includes HJ / BJ.
Phil.[/QUOTE]60 min massage + BJ for 60 k?

All providers or just the tattooed newbie?

[QUOTE=PhilSidena;2536059]Any Pharmacy will sell you Sildenafil. 20 k for 4 pills 100 MG. You probably have 8 doses with that.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot! That's without a prescription, right? I'll check it out ASAP.

Hi,

I am visiting South Korea for a month. Wondering I get some info about escorts and massage parlors.

I am researching as well but appreciate all your leads.

Yours truly.

Rocky.

Hi,

After going through some of the threads I realized that foreigners are not so welcoming in massage centers in Seoul.

Wondering if that is the case everywhere?

I am looking some leads for massage parlors and independent providers welcoming foreigners.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regards.

Rocky.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2536338]Thanks a lot! That's without a prescription, right? I'll check it out ASAP.[/QUOTE]Right.

But it isn't a big deal to go to any doc and ask him for a prescription.

Anyway. You don't have to prove to him that your mighty ceder of Lebanon does wave in the wind.

[QUOTE=Roshan9;2536373]Hi,

After going through some of the threads I realized that foreigners are not so welcoming in massage centers in Seoul.

Wondering if that is the case everywhere?

I am looking some leads for massage parlors and independent providers welcoming foreigners.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regards.

Rocky.[/QUOTE]That is not the case. If you speak Korean and be it the slightest bit they will in most cases let you come.

It is advisable to call and ask:"Uaegugin oado kuaenchanayo?

That will tell them that you are looking for extended services and find a girl that is willing to service a foreigner.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2536157]60 min massage + BJ for 60 k?

All providers or just the tattooed newbie?[/QUOTE]Hi,

There are 2 girls running:

Chubby newbie (2nd prio).

Tattooed pro (prefer / demand).

Best is: ask the girl before the massage.

Will be back in Seoul after 5 years of absence in April. I used to really like kissing rooms. Do they still exist and are there any that you can recommend? Preferrably around Gangnam area?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2532259]Iteawon is pretty a done deal unless you find a place on The Hill open but those are straight sex no massage. Mapo has a few places I have hit up. Gangnam also has quite a few Thai places offering extras.[/QUOTE]I ended up using [URL]https://akfkxkdwhgdk.wixsite.com/mysite-1[/URL] . They came to me and it was pretty much straight to sex. I paid the 60,000 for the hour and then negotiated to 80,000 for sex. I wasn't too into the girl that they brought me. She was Thai and they welcome foreigners.

[QUOTE=PhilSidena;2536465]Right.

But it isn't a big deal to go to any doc and ask him for a prescription.

Anyway. You don't have to prove to him that your mighty ceder of Lebanon does wave in the wind.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the info! I was wondering if you have any news about what's happening on the hill?

There were several contacts via MEEFF. Trying out one tomorrow.

Seems too good to be true.

170 for the night? HM.

Will report.

Best,

Phil.

Jip. They want me to pay the manager before the girl comes.

Njet.

Only told me after they made sure I rented a hotel room.

Suckers!

Kayeon from Meeff.

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And they wanted me to make a bank transfer LOL.

[QUOTE=PhilSidena;2536869]There were several contacts via MEEFF. Trying out one tomorrow.

Seems too good to be true.

170 for the night? HM.

Will report.

Best,

Phil.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Dopeview;2536600]I ended up using [URL]https://akfkxkdwhgdk.wixsite.com/mysite-1[/URL] . They came to me and it was pretty much straight to sex. I paid the 60,000 for the hour and then negotiated to 80,000 for sex. I wasn't too into the girl that they brought me. She was Thai and they welcome foreigners.[/QUOTE]Wonderful service. Tried twice. The coordinator is fun. Girls were a mixed bag as always.

Both stunningly beautiful. Though one took the cash and declined service when she saw my penis.

I told her that she shouldn't bullshit me. And that I go to Korean Sauna regularly and have seen enough.

Korean dicks to know that I am not too big. But of course she has every right to refuse.

She discounted 50% and tried an HJ. But that rejection was the enemy of a climax.

Evening looked like it would end with a red rod and two half satisfied people in the hotel room.

Asked her if at least she would like to come and if she would allow me to eat her out.

She actually relaxed and came wonderfully. (And she was a really narrow build. I felt sorry for my comeback after she correctly recognized that we aren't a good fit.)

No regrets. I was probably right:

Reddit entry:

Question:

Hi, I just want to know if someone has known my situation. I match some girls in meeff and they gave me their KakaoTalk. They tell me their prices for a night and ask me for my address. To be clear, the problem is not to pay, they are prostitute I guess so, My question is, are they scam or not? Is there someone who can tell me that is true through his experience in Korea? Just want someone to confirm that it's real ones.

Answer:

I fell for this yesterday.

The deal was they wanted 100,000 for 3 hours. (check out escort websites, that's too cheap).

They wanted that sent to their boss. My penis said "maybe that's how things work in Korea" so I did even though I thought it might be a scam.

As soon as I had sent it, "oh, is this your first time with us? You need to pay the deposit of 300,000 which we'll give back to you, it's to ensure there's no filming because a customer filmed before".

I said no to this followed by lots of persuasion from the "girl" and insisting she was a real Korean lady, she even sent me pictures of her ID and of the 300,000. I didn't fall for it a second time. Lesson learned.

You guys can judge me or laugh at me, that's fair. I thought this story might be enlightening.

I reported the girl, but I saw her 5 more times as she kept making a new profile.

I've asked this many times. Has anybody been to the hill recently? Any action there?

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2538938]I've asked this many times. Has anybody been to the hill recently? Any action there?[/QUOTE]Walked it after work 2 weeks ago it was dead dead. Same 2 or 3 places open with the same worn out over priced girls. When they see a well dressed American the price goes from 100 k to 150 k for one shot. Pffftt no thanks.

I was in Jongno today so I wanted to hit Rama or Lama Thai, on the third floor of a tiny triangle shaped building in a street that runs perpendicular to the south side of Jongno. Some sites have advertised it offering a 30 k 1 hour Thai massage. But when I arrived at 11:30 the door was locked. There are motion detectors on the stairs so you can hear the doorbell ringing before you open the door but nobody answered. I stood there a few seconds before heading down again. Strike 1.

Then I moved on to my second target. Chinese & Thai Massage, on the 4th floor above a language studio, maybe 10 meters outside exit 12 of Jonggak station, again on the south side of Jongno. No elevator so I had to take the stairs. It was open for business. 35 k for a 1 hour massage. No Chinese or Thai lady, instead a Korean woman in her 50's wearing a t-shirt over a long-sleeved T and leggings, as if she were going power walking on Namsan. Anyway she gave me a straight 1 hour massage, no frills, and nothing extra offered. She even left the door open a little so light came in from the main entrance. The massage was hard and I didn't like it. I won't be going back. I do not recommend it. Strike 2!

As for Lama Rama, who knows? Maybe they weren't open, or maybe they don't welcome foreigners.

Anyone had any better luck?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2535093]Here is the address.

5th floor, 481-1 Mangwon-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul.[/QUOTE]Went to go check this place, got there and was told it'd be at least a 90 minute wait. Guess I'll have to come back.

So I ventured back out and saw another Thai massage pretty close to Mangwon Station, called Coconut Thai. Place was pretty nice, a bit more expensive than I prefer though. 60 k for 1 HR aroma. Sat and waited for maybe 10-15 minutes and was taken back to my room. Girl was Thai, young and cute enough with braces. Average weight, biggish boobs in a lowcut shirt and jean shorts. Massage was pretty standard, not amazing but definitely not bad. The rooms aren't very soundproof and all the Thai girls were talking to each other through the walls during the massage, not a deal breaker for me but I'm sure it would bother some. She gave me a little tease while I was lying on my stomach but nothing major. About halfway through she had me flip over and immediately asked if I wanted service. 50 k no negotiation. She wouldn't take her shirt off, but lifted it and her bra up and kinda gave me free reign. Best HJ I've ever had without a doubt. No rush, almost more like a massage and she (at least pretended) to be pretty into it too. Afterwards she finished out the time on my legs / chest and I was out the door.

Overall a little on the pricier side for a Thai massage, but one of the better experiences for sure.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2536338]Thanks a lot! That's without a prescription, right? I'll check it out ASAP.[/QUOTE]I have been able once to buy generic Cialis in Itaewon a few years ago. Last time no luck, not even on the hill.

Go to adult shop with sign 성인용품, they will sell you generic Cialis. Not sure about the quality though. You will find these shops everywhere.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2538938]I've asked this many times. Has anybody been to the hill recently? Any action there?[/QUOTE]Yes, Kaye and probably Bean are still up top across from where Polly's Kettle used to be (now a yogurt place, unless that relocated).

The VIP people are there, but aging. Sometimes Nadia was working with her overload controlling boss, next to VIP and the capsule hotel. Sad case, Nadia. So much physical potential (really supermodel-body in her early years) but now reaping the spoils of a hard life of not taking care of oneself. Always seems to be roped-in and controlled by others. I think she likes it that way. Now she is stuck in that awful smelling bar -- Ambrosia, I think? I had always hoped she would learn to take care of herself. Poor girl didn't get a break from day 1 of her life. If I were a millionaire, I would put her up in an apartment and help her get on her feet so she could make a life for herself where she isn't being used.

There are a few other older longtime stragglers working along the row near the international food stores, as well.

Try evenings late.

Have seen this place for a long time, but finally tried it out. King Thai what Pho Massage, near Hongdae station. They have a sign out front advertising that all the girls are in their 20's, thought this seemed too good to be true or sort of like a trap, but I had to find out for myself. Prices are a bit expensive, but they have deals on a lot of the massage sites if you search around and make an appointment. Ended up paying 50 k for a 90 minute aroma, which was like 20-30 k cheaper than the price shown in shop. Took a quick shower, waited in my room for about 10 minutes until the girl showed up. She was straight up hot, probably early-mid 20's, taller, thin with big tits in a tight t-shirt and jean booty shorts. Easily the best looking girl I've ever seen in a Thai place here, maybe even better than some of the finishers at places like Jinju etc. Massage was nothing special, 7/10, a lot of teasing throughout. After the flip eventually asked if I wanted service, 40 k for standard he, 50 k with touching, 100 k for FS. Went with the 50 k option, she took her shirt off and lost about a cup size without the padded bra, but still decent size. Technique was good, she was into it and didn't rush. Cleaned me up and finished out the massage. I'm not 100% sure on what time I started, but I feel like I got shorted out of at least 15 minutes though.

Overall the price (with the discount) was pretty good and I'd love to see what some of the other girls are like, even if I got slightly shorted on time. Thai places seem to be the ultimate YMMV, but I'll definitely at least give this one another go.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2545864]one another go.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. It's hard to find a good Thai place. I think the better providers are the north Chinese / Korean mix. I'm able to talk to them and have more fun and are very accommodating. BTW I'm not Asian, I just know how to speak and read the local language somewhat.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2546314]Thanks for the update. It's hard to find a good Thai place. I think the better providers are the north Chinese / Korean mix. I'm able to talk to them and have more fun and are very accommodating. BTW I'm not Asian, I just know how to speak and read the local language somewhat.[/QUOTE]Can you recommend a place or 2 that has the north Chinese / Korean mix and that is north of the river? I shared a place last week that advertised Thai and Chinese but was lacking on both fronts.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2546314]Thanks for the update. It's hard to find a good Thai place. I think the better providers are the north Chinese / Korean mix. I'm able to talk to them and have more fun and are very accommodating. BTW I'm not Asian, I just know how to speak and read the local language somewhat.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I don't really have a preference but I speak Korean and it can be difficult with the Thai girls as a lot of them don't speak Korean or English well. This was one of the main reasons I would prefer the spinning pole massage places with older Koreans / Chinese over the Thai ones, but sometimes the massages are just horrible and it just feels like a waste.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2546487]Can you recommend a place or 2 that has the north Chinese / Korean mix and that is north of the river? I shared a place last week that advertised Thai and Chinese but was lacking on both fronts.[/QUOTE]Do you know about MVP / VIP massage? Go out Gangnam station exit 5, go strait, take a right at the next ally and another right and it's on the right hand side In B1. Total distance from exit 5 is about 100 M or less. They had Chinese there a couple years ago, but I don't live in Seoul anymore Good luck.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2545864]Have seen this place for a long time, but finally tried it out. King Thai what Pho Massage, near Hongdae station. They have a sign out front advertising that all the girls are in their 20's, thought this seemed too good to be true or sort of like a trap, but I had to find out for myself. Prices are a bit expensive, but they have deals on a lot of the massage sites if you search around and make an appointment. Ended up paying 50 k for a 90 minute aroma, which was like 20-30 k cheaper than the price shown in shop. Took a quick shower, waited in my room for about 10 minutes until the girl showed up. She was straight up hot, probably early-mid 20's, taller, thin with big tits in a tight t-shirt and jean booty shorts. Easily the best looking girl I've ever seen in a Thai place here, maybe even better than some of the finishers at places like Jinju etc. Massage was nothing special, 7/10, a lot of teasing throughout. After the flip eventually asked if I wanted service, 40 k for standard he, 50 k with touching, 100 k for FS. Went with the 50 k option, she took her shirt off and lost about a cup size without the padded bra, but still decent size. Technique was good, she was into it and didn't rush. Cleaned me up and finished out the massage. I'm not 100% sure on what time I started, but I feel like I got shorted out of at least 15 minutes though.

Overall the price (with the discount) was pretty good and I'd love to see what some of the other girls are like, even if I got slightly shorted on time. Thai places seem to be the ultimate YMMV, but I'll definitely at least give this one another go.[/QUOTE]You have anymore info on this. Hongdae has a ton of stuff.

Not sure if its just me, but I've been trying to post on here for a week and my posts have not gone through or shown up. Not much to report, took a chance in Sinchon at Thai365, not good. No extras, woman at the front desk was rude. Massage was pretty decent though if you're not looking for anything else.

Afraid not much to report lately. Anyone been to the hill this pas several weeks? I have not tried the thai365 place yet. I had found an old massage lady who would regularly give me a quick 10 min happy ending around Guui station intersection, but have not been there in a few weeks. I was able to convince her to meet me for 40 k and all done quick with nothing but the happiness. She is a bit on the old side for me, though. Will also add thar I am not going to share here anymore because I am in disagreement with being unable to discuss people tone loc would not want to meet with. I have rights and preferences too, and I do not wish to support a page that does not treat my sexual preference equally or fairly by canceling my ability to discuss what I do not want to spend my money on. As for the old lady, I have found that you can negotiate a good price with some of the older ajummas if you say you just want something quick and will be in and out in 5 to 10 minutes. Many will shoo you out, but one in four might agree to meet you for the quick and easy cash.

So don't be afraid to throw out a proposal that you would like something shortime for less.

Just outside Seongsu Station exit three is a building with an Alpha Office supply store. In the basement there is a noraebang and a Thai massage. 60 k for a 1 hour aroma massage but I got a discount because I found it on Massage Minjok and showed the advertisement. The SP was a Thai woman probably in her early to mid 30's, a little heavy set, attractive enough, friendly, didn't speak any English but knew some massage shop Korean. Got a naked he with touching for 50 k extra. If you are in that part of town it's worth checking out.

Total 90 k. Not very clean or appealing place, but open to foreigners.

Went back to King Thai Watpo near Hongdae. Made an appointment beforehand but still ended up waiting for 30+ minutes, they seemed super busy for a weeknight. Girl I got was young and thin, not a knockout but cute enough. She didn't seem to be in a great mood, I'm guessing that had to do with how busy they were. Massage and he were good despite her attitude, but it did make it a bit less fun. The prices and location are nice and I haven't had a "bad" experience yet per say, but I'll probably check out some other places. For what it's worth, a friend also tried it out recently on a weekend night and said he got a less attractive chubby girl, so they're not all gems. The hunt continues.

Anyone know of a good BBS that gives a nice prostate massage?

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2554683]Went back to King Thai Watpo near Hongdae. Made an appointment beforehand but still ended up waiting for 30+ minutes, they seemed super busy for a weeknight. Girl I got was young and thin, not a knockout but cute enough. She didn't seem to be in a great mood, I'm guessing that had to do with how busy they were. Massage and he were good despite her attitude, but it did make it a bit less fun. The prices and location are nice and I haven't had a "bad" experience yet per say, but I'll probably check out some other places. For what it's worth, a friend also tried it out recently on a weekend night and said he got a less attractive chubby girl, so they're not all gems. The hunt continues.[/QUOTE]Hi guys,

I am visiting Seoul and tried to find a few places that are foreigner friendly. Most of the parlors I tried did not turn me away so I am assuming that generally here it is foreigner friendly. However I did not have any good experiences yet. Maybe I am visiting the wrong places in and around Mapo. Hapjeong, Hongdae and the multiple parlors on the main artery. There is only one main matronly figure who does everything herself. Which frankly is not very appealing.

Can some seniors help point me to the right places.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2557909]I am visiting Seoul and tried to find a few places that are foreigner friendly. Most of the parlors I tried did not turn me away so I am assuming that generally here it is foreigner friendly. However I did not have any good experiences yet. Maybe I am visiting the wrong places in and around Mapo. Hapjeong, Hongdae and the multiple parlors on the main artery. There is only one main matronly figure who does everything herself. Which frankly is not very appealing..[/QUOTE]YEs same on my side, I also live in this area and tried 5-6 places but same experience than you, I am also interested if someone wants to share good tips / places in Mapo Area.

I think I will try this week the massage place King Thai Watpo that Peanuts7 shared few days ago and will let you know.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2557909]Hi guys,

I am visiting Seoul and tried to find a few places that are foreigner friendly. Most of the parlors I tried did not turn me away so I am assuming that generally here it is foreigner friendly. However I did not have any good experiences yet. Maybe I am visiting the wrong places in and around Mapo. Hapjeong, Hongdae and the multiple parlors on the main artery. There is only one main matronly figure who does everything herself. Which frankly is not very appealing.

Can some seniors help point me to the right places.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Really the only places with younger providers that you can just walk in off the street are going to be Thai massages. Otherwise you'll likely have to find somewhere online through a site like opstar and make an appointment, which can be difficult if you don't speak the language.

Was out last night and came across a spinning pole I'd never noticed before, behind the emart near Gongdeok station. 80 k for an hour long dry massage with he. Woman at the counter was typical older Korean mamsasan, provider was a sort of older MILFy Thai woman. Massage was whatever, but she offered BJ for 30 k more once we got down to it. She didn't speak much English and virtually no Korean, but was nice and had fun with it. Places like this are a dime a dozen so nothing special.

To the people reporting that they've been trying out random spots in Mapo / Hongdae / Hapjeong, any that stuck out? Sometimes those places can be a nice change of pace from the Thai massage spots.

Was browsing MR for the hell of it and see so many non-Korean escorts popping up with "no black, Indian or Nepal sorry" in their ads now. What's up with that?

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2558828]Was browsing MR for the hell of it and see so many non-Korean escorts popping up with "no black, Indian or Nepal sorry" in their ads now. What's up with that?[/QUOTE]You should just ask the escorts why.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2534540]Last weekend went and checked out a Thai spot near Gongdeok Station, called Healing Thai on the 3rd floor of an older building. Interior was nice, almost worried it might be too legit for what I wanted. Prices are cheap and maybe even cheaper if you show them the thaiinfo ad. Didn't bring my phone, so I ended up doing the 90 minute Thai massage for 50 k. Girl I got was average to slightly chubby, but pretty nice big tits in a low cut t-shirt and jean booty shorts. Gave me a foot bath then off to the room. Massage was really good, one of the best Thai massages I've had in Korea, especially at the price. About 50 minutes in I flipped over and she did my legs and got right up in my groin quite a bit and got me going, then asked if I wanted service. 30 k for a standard he, wouldn't take her clothes off but did take her shirt and bra up and let me play with 'them. Technique was slow and good, no rush at all. Afterwards finished up the rest of the massage and I was on my way. Not a Thai connoisseur by any means, but overall probably the best experience I've had, especially when factoring in the price.

I know you guys haven't just been sitting at home, who else has been out there?[/QUOTE]I was meaning to visit that place for a long time, even before you posted your review. But I kept putting it off. Finally I went there today and the whole strip of commercial buildings between two apartments has been entirely demolished and they have those white protective sheets up to shield the area from trespassers. So you might have been the last guy from this forum to ever visit there Peanuts.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2524094]Checked this place out the other night, similar experience / menu. The girl I got was less cute and more chubby, but the massage was really good. Usually I'll take that trade-off, I hate when the massage sucks. She was not shy at all about the extras and even tried to up-sell me a bit, I think everything is on the table.[/QUOTE]Went there today. Paid 50 k inside the room to the Thai SP for he with naked touching. She was nice and kind and the massage was hard, but it wasn't worth going back to. Only if you're in the area and you really need a rub & tug.

What else is near Gongdeok and Mapo stations?

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2559079]I was meaning to visit that place for a long time, even before you posted your review. But I kept putting it off. Finally I went there today and the whole strip of commercial buildings between two apartments has been entirely demolished and they have those white protective sheets up to shield the area from trespassers. So you might have been the last guy from this forum to ever visit there Peanuts.[/QUOTE]Had that same issue so I walked across the main drag past Worldmak building where all the restaurants are. Found a place the massage the banter with the SP was good and during the talk she expressed how she liked me and would feel odd giving me extras without knowing me more, said all the girls give extra. Got her line and met her before work the next day. Banged the hell out of her at a love motel and hit it every now and then. Always treat her to lunch. The shop will be on your right as you walk down the street just before a small 3 way intersection on the 2nd or 3rd floor.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2558446]Was out last night and came across a spinning pole I'd never noticed before, behind the emart near Gongdeok station. 80 k for an hour long dry massage with he. Woman at the counter was typical older Korean mamsasan, provider was a sort of older MILFy Thai woman. Massage was whatever, but she offered BJ for 30 k more once we got down to it. She didn't speak much English and virtually no Korean, but was nice and had fun with it. Places like this are a dime a dozen so nothing special.

To the people reporting that they've been trying out random spots in Mapo / Hongdae / Hapjeong, any that stuck out? Sometimes those places can be a nice change of pace from the Thai massage spots.[/QUOTE]So I checked this spot out after reading your post. I think it was Tuesday. I always go with the Aroma so it was 100,000 HJ included. Got the older skinny Korean. The massage was typical oiled the body up massaged then some hot towels and more massage wiping the oil off. Then she oiled up my crack, balls and Jr while I was on my stomach. A lot of taint, crack, and ball massage. Even hiked my hips up and edged JR while I was on my stomach. This last a good 15 minutes before she wiped me up had me flip over. I was thinking "here we go". She left the room came back about 5 minutes later oiled JR up. Have to say one of the best I have had she would stroke, twisted, play with the balls, edge me and then slow or stop and start again. I finally shot and fuck it was like I was 18 again it almost hit my face when it came back down. She milked it and teased until I was shaking.

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2559265]Had that same issue so I walked across the main drag past Worldmak building where all the restaurants are. Found a place the massage the banter with the SP was good and during the talk she expressed how she liked me and would feel odd giving me extras without knowing me more, said all the girls give extra. Got her line and met her before work the next day. Banged the hell out of her at a love motel and hit it every now and then. Always treat her to lunch. The shop will be on your right as you walk down the street just before a small 3 way intersection on the 2nd or 3rd floor.[/QUOTE]Do you have a little bit more info on where this is? Can't really figure it out.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2559267]So I checked this spot out after reading your post. I think it was Tuesday. I always go with the Aroma so it was 100,000 HJ included. Got the older skinny Korean. The massage was typical oiled the body up massaged then some hot towels and more massage wiping the oil off. Then she oiled up my crack, balls and Jr while I was on my stomach. A lot of taint, crack, and ball massage. Even hiked my hips up and edged JR while I was on my stomach. This last a good 15 minutes before she wiped me up had me flip over. I was thinking "here we go". She left the room came back about 5 minutes later oiled JR up. Have to say one of the best I have had she would stroke, twisted, play with the balls, edge me and then slow or stop and start again. I finally shot and fuck it was like I was 18 again it almost hit my face when it came back down. She milked it and teased until I was shaking.

Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this place? It sounds exactly like what I'm after.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2559265]Had that same issue so I walked across the main drag past Worldmak building where all the restaurants are. Found a place the massage the banter with the SP was good and during the talk she expressed how she liked me and would feel odd giving me extras without knowing me more, said all the girls give extra. Got her line and met her before work the next day. Banged the hell out of her at a love motel and hit it every now and then. Always treat her to lunch. The shop will be on your right as you walk down the street just before a small 3 way intersection on the 2nd or 3rd floor.[/QUOTE]Is this it here? [URL]http://kko.to/_ErSUVRY0[/URL].

[QUOTE=Noone1;2559585]Where exactly is this place? It sounds exactly like what I'm after.[/QUOTE]Behind emart, 3rd floor. Next to emart 24 convenience store.

[URL]http://kko.to/Z7e3hQLDT[/URL]

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2559606]Is this it here? [URL]http://kko.to/_ErSUVRY0[/URL].[/QUOTE]This looks good. I will try this out sometime and post the report.

Can some seniors also point to the best Thai spots around?

Where to find street girls in Seoul? For example, bars with girls or pretty girls performing on the streets during the day.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2559606]Is this it here? [URL]http://kko.to/_ErSUVRY0[/URL].[/QUOTE]Went by earlier and did a quick scope of the area, unless I'm missing something, I didn't see anything there.

I believe this is the place in question, but didn't check it out.

[URL]http://kko.to/LoQjrjyDM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2560536]Went by earlier and did a quick scope of the area, unless I'm missing something, I didn't see anything there.[/QUOTE]According to the map information, there is a Thai massage place on the third floor. Phone number 070-4624-7100. I haven't been there yet.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2560536]I believe this is the place in question, but didn't check it out.

[URL]http://kko.to/LoQjrjyDM[/URL].[/QUOTE]I don't see anything in that shot that looks like it could be a massage place.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2560624]According to the map information, there is a Thai massage place on the third floor. Phone number 070-4624-7100. I haven't been there yet.[/QUOTE]So I also saw that, but when you go there it appears that the 3rd floor is a saxophone place, no signs of a massage spot.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2560624]I don't see anything in that shot that looks like it could be a massage place.[/QUOTE]The third floor is a massage place. Doesn't show well in the picture, but it says its open 24 hrs and has spinning poles, one of them saying massage. Stairway leading up to it also says massage.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2560774]So I also saw that, but when you go there it appears that the 3rd floor is a saxophone place, no signs of a massage spot.

The third floor is a massage place. Doesn't show well in the picture, but it says its open 24 hrs and has spinning poles, one of them saying massage. Stairway leading up to it also says massage.[/QUOTE]Peanuts, Just go, make it happen and report.

The hill has some life. But. Ummm.

There is a new girl in Ambrosia. She is really skinny, lots of teeth, and looked all of 21 years old. ODD duck. She seemed like she has been at this job a while. Bony, but young. I paid 50,000 to the mamasan for a HJ from this young thing and was surprised to see the girl pull the curtain back, drop her entire outfit, and strattle me naked. She wanted more. I honestly wasn't in much of a mood for it, but didn't turn down the opportunity. 50 k for a quickly is pretty shocking. She even grabbed the back of my head and wanted to make out. I was kind of reluctant, because she was covered in red lipstick, and seemed keen to smear it on me. She did. I had to clean it all off before going home! While in the act I noticed something weird. A smell? I blew my load inside of her (covered) as she curled her toes in the mirror, and gave me a big, deep kiss. That is when I figured out the smell. It was a urine smell. Kind of like someone had peed themselves but not showered, and it had dried? Or maybe it was on the sofa we used?

I showered as soon as I got home. Something was not quite right about that, and not just the price -- which was a shock. I don't know if she was just horny, or what? I was more than twice her age.

They have to work days, now. Covid restrictions make them close before dark. Try afternoons.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2562469]The hill has some life. But. Ummm.

There is a new girl in Ambrosia. She is really skinny, lots of teeth, and looked all of 21 years old. ODD duck. She seemed like she has been at this job a while. Bony, but young. I paid 50,000 to the mamasan for a HJ from this young thing and was surprised to see the girl pull the curtain back, drop her entire outfit, and strattle me naked. She wanted more. I honestly wasn't in much of a mood for it, but didn't turn down the opportunity. 50 k for a quickly is pretty shocking. She even grabbed the back of my head and wanted to make out. I was kind of reluctant, because she was covered in red lipstick, and seemed keen to smear it on me. She did. I had to clean it all off before going home! While in the act I noticed something weird. A smell? I blew my load inside of her (covered) as she curled her toes in the mirror, and gave me a big, deep kiss. That is when I figured out the smell. It was a urine smell. Kind of like someone had peed themselves but not showered, and it had dried? Or maybe it was on the sofa we used?

I showered as soon as I got home. Something was not quite right about that, and not just the price -- which was a shock. I don't know if she was just horny, or what? I was more than twice her age.

They have to work days, now. Covid restrictions make them close before dark. Try afternoons.[/QUOTE]Have you been to pyongempo red ight district lately? Sorry if I misspelled it.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2562469]The hill has some life. But. Ummm.

There is a new girl in Ambrosia. She is really skinny, lots of teeth, and looked all of 21 years old. ODD duck. She seemed like she has been at this job a while. Bony, but young. I paid 50,000 to the mamasan for a HJ from this young thing and was surprised to see the girl pull the curtain back, drop her entire outfit, and strattle me naked. She wanted more. I honestly wasn't in much of a mood for it, but didn't turn down the opportunity. 50 k for a quickly is pretty shocking. She even grabbed the back of my head and wanted to make out. I was kind of reluctant, because she was covered in red lipstick, and seemed keen to smear it on me. She did. I had to clean it all off before going home! While in the act I noticed something weird. A smell? I blew my load inside of her (covered) as she curled her toes in the mirror, and gave me a big, deep kiss. That is when I figured out the smell. It was a urine smell. Kind of like someone had peed themselves but not showered, and it had dried? Or maybe it was on the sofa we used?

I showered as soon as I got home. Something was not quite right about that, and not just the price -- which was a shock. I don't know if she was just horny, or what? I was more than twice her age.

They have to work days, now. Covid restrictions make them close before dark. Try afternoons.[/QUOTE]What time did you head up there? I walked there around noon the other day the talent is dwindled so much.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2559743]Behind emart, 3rd floor. Next to emart 24 convenience store.

[URL]http://kko.to/Z7e3hQLDT[/URL][/QUOTE]Hi!

Any chance to get the exact location please?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2559265]Had that same issue so I walked across the main drag past Worldmak building where all the restaurants are. Found a place the massage the banter with the SP was good and during the talk she expressed how she liked me and would feel odd giving me extras without knowing me more, said all the girls give extra. Got her line and met her before work the next day. Banged the hell out of her at a love motel and hit it every now and then. Always treat her to lunch. The shop will be on your right as you walk down the street just before a small 3 way intersection on the 2nd or 3rd floor.[/QUOTE]Any chance to have the exact address please?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2562634]What time did you head up there? I walked there around noon the other day the talent is dwindled so much.[/QUOTE]Late afternoon, maybe? 3 pm to 5 pm sometime?

There are only 4 or 5 shops open regularly, other than a few near the top which get iffy.

1. VIP. Has 3 to 4 girls working. All veterans.

2. Ambrosia. Nadia is gone. Has new skinny young veteran girl with teeth and lipstick, I will call tooth stick. You may have to knock or walk in.

3. Kaye and Beane's place.

4. A few larger girls across from the yogurt place (formerly Pollys).

5. Next to the 2 international food stores you can find the Pandora girl under the Uzbek restaurant, sometimes. Haven't been in for a year or two, but I see her light is on. She was a wild sloppy BJ.

6. The veteran in the shop I forget the name of, a bit further North down the hill, next to where the Turkish bakery is / was. She is the one who was in that funny blog photo from over 10 years ago of 2 hookers running into VIP.

Literally the only provider not over 35 has to be that girl in Ambrosia. Prices have come way down. I have gotten a HJ for as low as 30,000 and that surprise FS from tooth stick for 50,000.

[QUOTE=Opa6969;2563070]Any chance to have the exact address please?[/QUOTE]1-12, Dohwa-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul.

Saw my favorite Outcall Thai Masseuse last week for maybe the 7th time and our appointment turned into GFE with BBFS. It's been 3 months since I last saw her so she was excited to see me again and that I came all the way to see her.

Normally its a massage and then CFS but this time we skipped the massage, went straight to kissing like a couple and had the first quick round covered. After 10 minutes rest I told her I wanted a second round. This time more kissing and I noticed she used more spit than usual on the BBJ (normally she applies lube). Then instead of putting on condom and climbing on top, she rolled over, pulled me on top and told me "finish outside, okay?

She was very wet. It took everything in my willpower to not CIP. After a missionary we switched to doggy where I eventually pulled out and peter northed her backside.

Is BBFS something that's given to long time clients? Should I be worried? Honestly felt great and want to do it again. Based on our chats and texts, I almost get this feeling from her that she wants to be my GF but is waiting for me to ask her.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2564301]Saw my favorite Outcall Thai Masseuse last week for maybe the 7th time and our appointment turned into GFE with BBFS. It's been 3 months since I last saw her so she was excited to see me again and that I came all the way to see her.

Normally its a massage and then CFS but this time we skipped the massage, went straight to kissing like a couple and had the first quick round covered. After 10 minutes rest I told her I wanted a second round. This time more kissing and I noticed she used more spit than usual on the BBJ (normally she applies lube). Then instead of putting on condom and climbing on top, she rolled over, pulled me on top and told me "finish outside, okay?

She was very wet. It took everything in my willpower to not CIP. After a missionary we switched to doggy where I eventually pulled out and peter northed her backside.

Is BBFS something that's given to long time clients? Should I be worried? Honestly felt great and want to do it again. Based on our chats and texts, I almost get this feeling from her that she wants to be my GF but is waiting for me to ask her.[/QUOTE]I usually hit my girls I meet BB this is after seeing them in the shop. I find when they meet you at a hotel or your place they want it BB. I also find I only have to pay them when meeting at the shop if she is meeting at your place or a hotel for a few hours of fun and she wants to be your GF then no need to pay her. Of course still buy her dinner or gifts. Nice gifts go along ways.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2563341]1-12, Dohwa-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul.[/QUOTE]Thanks For the address, I went there yesterday.

Place is simple to find (exit 10 at Gongdok station).

Paid 100 for Aroma to the Mamasan at the entrance.

Girl I had was a pretty Thai girl, a bit chubby for Korean standards, but I don t mind it as there was plenty to grab.

The girl barely speak Korean or English but mixing the languages we managed it.

From the start it was clear that there will be more than a simple massage.

The service was as previously describe by others with lots of oil to massage my crack and the rest from the start.

Massage overall was good for such a place and I was given a good finish.

Room was clean, girl was nice and fun and price was good.

Will go back for sure.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2564984]I usually hit my girls I meet BB this is after seeing them in the shop. I find when they meet you at a hotel or your place they want it BB. I also find I only have to pay them when meeting at the shop if she is meeting at your place or a hotel for a few hours of fun and she wants to be your GF then no need to pay her. Of course still buy her dinner or gifts. Nice gifts go along ways.[/QUOTE]I notice she didn't ask me for tip after our appointment but I paid her anyways. Maybe I should try not paying and see if she asks. Probably could have gotten away with paying for the one shot tip instead of two.

Any worry of catching anything or getting them pregnant? Honestly not sure if these girls go BB often or if it's just for special customers who can afford to see them often. In my years using Outcall Massage girls, they always use condoms for FS. I plan on booking her for an overnight if possible and see if she'll let me CIP.

Sukko Thai in Gangnam is here [URL]http://kko.to/cAX6mvCDB[/URL].

It's about 5 minutes from Gangnam Station exit 1.

If you can read Korean you can find a discount ad on Maminjok, or else it's full price from the menu at the counter. Maybe 50 k or 60 k for 1 hour Thai massage.

Get in the room, standard procedure. My masseuse was over 35, probably close to 40. Lots of tattoos and thick. She said she has been massaging for 10 years. She gave a good massage. Started playing with junior to get him hard before offering "service. ".

It was okay but I don't think I will go again.

Before Sukko I tried to hit Thai25 around the corner on the 4th floor. [URL]http://kko.to/dQ0YkXCDo[/URL] Close to exits 4 and 1 of Gangnam.

But I stepped out of the elevator and the first question was do you have a reservation. I didn't so it was bye-bye.

Some places only take reservations but I don't want my phone number to end up on a list.

I haven't been able to check on any of these leads over the past few months but you're all coming up some good leads. Thanks for reporting in!

You guys going without protection with these women is exceedingly dangerous -- not to mention potentially expensive. Please be careful.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2561300]Peanuts, Just go, make it happen and report.[/QUOTE]Have been busy lately so I haven't been on here or out exploring much, but a few weeks ago I went to try this place out, maybe midnight-ish on a Monday / Tuesday? Wasn't open.

Ended up trying an aroma / spinning pole place down the street by Mapo Station, big building on the main road. There's a place called like Boss Business Club or something in the same building.

Standard stuff, 80 k for an hour-ish dry massage from an older provider. Massage was on the better side for a place like this and actually pretty good, which is always a nice surprise.

Standard he was really good, she really took her time with it and knew what she was doing. Nothing special, but if anybody wants some variety in the area, there's worse places than this one.

Anybody else have any new leads?

Before Corona, I would usually hit up the Hyugyetels for a good time. Anyone try them lately? Might call a few and see if they are accepting foreigners yet.

FYI, one of the ladies in VIP told me they had a roof partially cave and several inches of flooding. The gov is basically condemning much of their lower side of The Hill now, also. Most of the girls remaining are moving to the bars on the perpendicular street where the international food grocery stores are. The lady who told me spoke in very broken Korean, and this was a week or more ago. Hope I got it right.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2581749]FYI, one of the ladies in VIP told me they had a roof partially cave and several inches of flooding. The gov is basically condemning much of their lower side of The Hill now, also. Most of the girls remaining are moving to the bars on the perpendicular street where the international food grocery stores are. The lady who told me spoke in very broken Korean, and this was a week or more ago. Hope I got it right.[/QUOTE]Do you have any idea which country the lady who spoke in very broken Korean came from?

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2581942]Do you have any idea which country the lady who spoke in very broken Korean came from?[/QUOTE]She spoke in broken English, I meant.

I verified that it is true. VIP and nearby bars evacuated. Some moved to other bars like Tiffany and other places on the row next to the International Food stores.

Hi guys,

I've been staying here for 1.5 months already and will stay until end of August.

Do you guys have any recommendations for Korean speaking sites to book officetel girls (if that's still a thing in this post-covid world?

Intel:

I saw jinjoo and she is the real deal although on the older side (early 40's I'm guessing). Nice fake tits and decent service.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2582243]She spoke in broken English, I meant.

I verified that it is true. VIP and nearby bars evacuated. Some moved to other bars like Tiffany and other places on the row next to the International Food stores.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if Nana still works in Itaewon? She used to be at Peach Fuzz or Nymph on the street going uphill from the fire station on the right side of the street.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2535093]Here is the address.

5th floor, 481-1 Mangwon-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul.

I tried to hit up healing Thai from your other post but they were closed.[/QUOTE]Finally got around to trying this place. Nothing special to report but an overall good experience. Massage was really good, provider was cute-ish and probably in her early 30's. Not thin but not chubby with nice big boobs. 30 for standard he, 50 with the shirt off and touching. Wasn't the best I ever had, but far from the worst. Only complaint is I blatantly got shorted about 10 minutes, maybe even 20 if you count how much time she took to mess with the fan / AC / when she went to the bathroom. Would repeat because there was nothing wrong, but would rather continue the hunt.

As sorry as Miari is these days I went there maybe a month ago. One of a group of ajumas approached me and took me to a room. Had a girl who was not a looker but gave good service. So I went back again recently. Same as last time there was a group of ajumas. This time a different one approached me. But I went to the one who I dealt with last time and requested to see "her" girl again. But she directed me towards the other ajuma. So I had a different girl who was actually better looking than the last one but didn't give as good service. Almost seems to me that the ajumas are coordinating and taking turns there to spread the business around equally. Just a theory. Not sure.

The only thing I'm sure of is that Miari is a shell of its former selfin quantity, but especially in quality. Not to mention the now seemingly non-negotiable W100 k price tag (was 80 k till a couple years ago). The only reason I go back every once in a while is that I like the no nonsense get down to business style of the red light districts. I've gotten some decent girls at Thai massage shops, but I really hate massages (almost as much as I hate shaved pussy and fake tits). I just want the action. I've asked a couple Thai massage girls to skip the massage and get straight to what I'm there for. But it soured the atmosphere, with them getting "insulted" that I was only there for "that. " Might just need to find the right one to meet outside the shop. The loss of the Yongsan and Cheongnyangni (and now Cheonho?) RLDs just sucks. They were always good. No nonsense. No bullshit massage. Just the good stuff. In and out for 70 k. Done. Sad to see all that go.

I will be in Seoul next week. I have read thru the forum and could not find any recent reports on Gangnam anmas.

Can anyone share any recent info or recommendations?

Here is what I gather so far:

Castle. May be closed.

Gain. Open.

Dao. Open.

Kingsman. Open, recent report in an HK forum.

Donuts - ?

Fish - ?

Thanks!

I will be visiting Seoul soon and was looking though some providers online. Any recommendations or tips on how to get the most "bang" for my buck?

[QUOTE=Jj3042;2584243]I will be in Seoul next week. I have read thru the forum and could not find any recent reports on Gangnam anmas.

Can anyone share any recent info or recommendations?

Here is what I gather so far:

Castle. May be closed.

Gain. Open.

Dao. Open.

Kingsman. Open, recent report in an HK forum.

Donuts - ?

Fish - ?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Unfortunately all of anma rejected foreigner now. I've been tried to go to gain and dao but they rejected foreigner. For donut and fish, I went there but it looks like they are not operating again.

[QUOTE=Jj3042;2584243]I will be in Seoul next week. I have read thru the forum and could not find any recent reports on Gangnam anmas.

Can anyone share any recent info or recommendations?

Here is what I gather so far:

Castle. May be closed.

Gain. Open.

Dao. Open.

Kingsman. Open, recent report in an HK forum.

Donuts - ?

Fish - ?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I went to Gain and Dao, but both of them reject foreigner.

And also I tried to go to Donuts and Fish, but it's looks like they are not operating anymore.

I don't know where should I go again. If any of you know a good place please share. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2583021]As sorry as Miari is these days I went there maybe a month ago. One of a group of ajumas approached me and took me to a room. Had a girl who was not a looker but gave good service. So I went back again recently. Same as last time there was a group of ajumas. This time a different one approached me. But I went to the one who I dealt with last time and requested to see "her" girl again. But she directed me towards the other ajuma. So I had a different girl who was actually better looking than the last one but didn't give as good service. Almost seems to me that the ajumas are coordinating and taking turns there to spread the business around equally. Just a theory. Not sure.

The only thing I'm sure of is that Miari is a shell of its former selfin quantity, but especially in quality. Not to mention the now seemingly non-negotiable W100 k price tag (was 80 k till a couple years ago). The only reason I go back every once in a while is that I like the no nonsense get down to business style of the red light districts. I've gotten some decent girls at Thai massage shops, but I really hate massages (almost as much as I hate shaved pussy and fake tits). I just want the action. I've asked a couple Thai massage girls to skip the massage and get straight to what I'm there for. But it soured the atmosphere, with them getting "insulted" that I was only there for "that. " Might just need to find the right one to meet outside the shop. The loss of the Yongsan and Cheongnyangni (and now Cheonho?) RLDs just sucks. They were always good. No nonsense. No bullshit massage. Just the good stuff. In and out for 70 k. Done. Sad to see all that go.[/QUOTE]Have you been to the yeoundeungpo Red light district?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2585744]Have you been to the yeoundeungpo Red light district?[/QUOTE]I actually tried many (5 or so?) years ago but somehow couldn't find it. I walked around seemingly everywhere. Really boneheaded I know. I'll have to try again, though I've heard that foreigners are sometimes not catered to there.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2582787]Does anyone know if Nana still works in Itaewon? She used to be at Peach Fuzz or Nymph on the street going uphill from the fire station on the right side of the street.[/QUOTE]Is Nana the tall girl who got her start at Moulin Rouge about 15+ years ago? If that is her, she was renting a bar all by herself under the Turkish restaurant on that side of the street. She works very randomly, and alone to avoid drama.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2582787]Does anyone know if Nana still works in Itaewon? She used to be at Peach Fuzz or Nymph on the street going uphill from the fire station on the right side of the street.[/QUOTE]Just cleaning up a mistake. If Nana is the same girl, check the bar under the Uzbek restaurant, not Turkish. Got my countries crossed. She works very randomly, and rents the place by herself.

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2585830]I actually tried many (5 or so?) years ago but somehow couldn't find it. I walked around seemingly everywhere. Really boneheaded I know. I'll have to try again, though I've heard that foreigners are sometimes not catered to there.[/QUOTE]Please try, when I arrive in Seoul it the first place I'm going.

Hi,

Was trying to find some relief for aching muscles along with some fun. Tried searching for Belle and cool massage places in Gangnam. Went to the google location but found nothing there.

Not sure what I am doing incorrect. I tried searching for more than an hour in and around the GPS location in the Gangnam area. Dogok dong Gangnam. Nothing.

On my way back I hit on the Gold anma. That place seems to be operational. However they are charging $300 (300,000 won) for an hour and I was not sure if they were willing to entertain non Koreans. The price seems pretty steep even by New York standards. I gave an excuse and walked out. Not sure what to expect there even if I were allowed to enter.

Any inputs on some nice places / anmas that are open to visit?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2586409]Please try, when I arrive in Seoul it the first place I'm going.[/QUOTE]When I think Yeungdeungpo, gamjatang comes to mind which is a close second to some aghashi honey hole. Blow your load, eat gamjatang and thank me later.

[QUOTE=Jj3042;2584243]I will be in Seoul next week. I have read thru the forum and could not find any recent reports on Gangnam anmas.

Can anyone share any recent info or recommendations?

Here is what I gather so far:

Castle. May be closed.

Gain. Open.

Dao. Open.

Kingsman. Open, recent report in an HK forum.

Donuts - ?

Fish - ?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Do they have websites for this Anmas?

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2585830]I actually tried many (5 or so?) years ago but somehow couldn't find it. I walked around seemingly everywhere. Really boneheaded I know. I'll have to try again, though I've heard that foreigners are sometimes not catered to there.[/QUOTE]I found it in the past. It is right behind the time Times Square Mall: 15 Yeongjung-ro, Yeongdeungpo-dong, Yeongdeungpo-gu.

Go out the exit nearest to the Kakao store, if I remember correctly. It's a proper glass window place, but it was during the day when I found it.

There was some older women providing service the back areas of the RLD and they waved me down, but I haven't been there during the night time. Honestly I was surprised it's existence is tolerated right beside such a modern and large shopping mall.

[QUOTE=Iseoulu;2589453]I found it in the past. It is right behind the time Times Square Mall: 15 Yeongjung-ro, Yeongdeungpo-dong, Yeongdeungpo-gu.

Go out the exit nearest to the Kakao store, if I remember correctly. It's a proper glass window place, but it was during the day when I found it.

There was some older women providing service the back areas of the RLD and they waved me down, but I haven't been there during the night time. Honestly I was surprised it's existence is tolerated right beside such a modern and large shopping mall.[/QUOTE]I found it. But before reading further, it should be known that all the booths had curtains closed and lights off. There were hand-written signs at regular intervals taped to the glass doors saying that because of the corona virus the government had mandated that they not operate. (Guess being technically illegal wasn't enough for the government to mandate that.)

From yeongdeungpo station, there are a few ways to get there, some of which I haven't explored. One way is to take exit 6, which leads to an underground shopping arcade. Wind through that to exit 2 of the arcade (not exit 2 of youngdeungpo station). When you come out you'll see in front of you the sinsaegae department store handicapped parking and bays 1,2, and 3 for those car elevator parking things they have here. Take that left. The area starts in 75-100 meters.

I got there an hour before sunset and there was no indication of anything happening. I thought about hanging around to see if any ajumas would emerge to lead me around back to skirt the restrictions. But in the end I just decided to try another day. Thanks for the info. Now I'll know where to go when that day comes.

Has anyone tried the gal that advertises on CL as Annevgrol97? She's posted some ads in the past hinting at possibly being down for something, but indirectly. Any reports?

[QUOTE=Iseoulu;2589453]I found it in the past. It is right behind the time Times Square Mall: 15 Yeongjung-ro, Yeongdeungpo-dong, Yeongdeungpo-gu.

Go out the exit nearest to the Kakao store, if I remember correctly. It's a proper glass window place, but it was during the day when I found it.

There was some older women providing service the back areas of the RLD and they waved me down, but I haven't been there during the night time. Honestly I was surprised it's existence is tolerated right beside such a modern and large shopping mall.[/QUOTE]I hope they stay open! These windows are favorite, They need to bring back Chenho and 588!

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2591350]Has anyone tried the gal that advertises on CL as Annevgrol97? She's posted some ads in the past hinting at possibly being down for something, but indirectly. Any reports?[/QUOTE]Yep. I'd say she's 25 and 5'7.

1 shot 1 hour for 200 k.

2 shots in 90 minutes was 350 k.

+50 k without protection.

Not into anal or BDSM.

Note that this was back in April 2020.

Anyone knows a good place or provider for BJs?

I miss Thailand for this so much LOL.

I had an arrangement with a CL girl but she went back home a few months ago.

And I haven't found a replacement.

I didn't renew my subscription but I will if I can get good intel: the.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2591784]Yep. I'd say she's 25 and 5'7.

1 shot 1 hour for 200 k.

2 shots in 90 minutes was 350 k.

+50 k without protection.

Not into anal or BDSM.

Note that this was back in April 2020.

Anyone knows a good place or provider for BJs?

I miss Thailand for this so much LOL.

I had an arrangement with a CL girl but she went back home a few months ago.

And I haven't found a replacement.

I didn't renew my subscription but I will if I can get good intel: the.[/QUOTE]She doesn't look that great for 350 k for 90 min. Those are MR prices.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2591929]She doesn't look that great for 350 k for 90 min. Those are MR prices.[/QUOTE]I remember her sending me a couple of pictures.

And deciding not to partake for the same reason.

Anyone knows a Lip cafe that takes foreigners these days?

Or a good oral provider in a massage place?

[QUOTE=Stack58;2591784]Yep. I'd say she's 25 and 5'7.

1 shot 1 hour for 200 k.

2 shots in 90 minutes was 350 k.

+50 k without protection.

Not into anal or BDSM.

Note that this was back in April 2020.[/QUOTE]Ha. Thanks. A very limp nope on that kind of pricing. I'm not into big hands and chunky hips.

I heard Sue will be back at Texas in Itaewon next week, for those long-termers who know her.

Made me curious about Sue.

What kind of girl? Dimensions? Price? Style of activities?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2592443]Ha. Thanks. A very limp nope on that kind of pricing. I'm not into big hands and chunky hips.

I heard Sue will be back at Texas in Itaewon next week, for those long-termers who know her.[/QUOTE]

Comparing Miari vs Yeungdongpo vs Cheonho vs Pyeongtaek RLD.

What place is better August 2021 as far as price quality / age of girls and quality of service?

I know all 3 have really shrunk to a tiny shell of its former self.

The menu I want is BBBJ and / or BBFS.

I reconned Miari on weekend 6 pm-650 pm and 3 places opened their doors out of 10 ajummas I saw. 1 place had 2 yummy girls.

I heard Cheonho and Cheongryangri either closed or extremely limited.

A few months ago in Suwon and Yeongdongpo, I asked for NONCON and they preferred to taste elastic shrinkwrap.

Be row girls look like the row in Suwon and I expect A row service in Suwon to be not so hot.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2592890]

I heard Cheonho and Cheongryangri either closed or extremely limited.

[/QUOTE]Cheongryangri was demolished years ago. Last time I went to Cheonho was a few years ago and there was only a handful of places open. The girl I saw said they were being forced to close, so I expect that they are done as well.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2592872]Made me curious about Sue.

What kind of girl? Dimensions? Price? Style of activities?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]40-50. Petite. Good talker. Excellent English. Kind person. Buy her a drink and talk about things.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2593263]40-50. Petite. Good talker. Excellent English. Kind person. Buy her a drink and talk about things.[/QUOTE]May be referring to Soo-Ae. Nice looking girl with see / the cup tits, slim waist, and nice body.

She worked at Texas and then across the street at the place where Candy works.

Texas was / is owned by a woman named Kelly, nice looking older woman with a nice body. I used to get down with her BBFSCIP, until she sent me a text that she was tired of 'low money / no money, no condom' .

I asked Soo-Ae if Kelly was still around and she said she that Kelly would never return to the business. As she said that, I thought to myself how Kelly told me the same thing once before- before taking my $300 (got it, it was a lot, but just wanted to fuck her once more) and making the walk of shame up the hill to the Hilltop Hotel.

LOL, good times though.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2593832]May be referring to Soo-Ae. Nice looking girl with see / the cup tits, slim waist, and nice body.

She worked at Texas and then across the street at the place where Candy works.

Texas was / is owned by a woman named Kelly, nice looking older woman with a nice body. I used to get down with her BBFSCIP, until she sent me a text that she was tired of 'low money / no money, no condom' .

I asked Soo-Ae if Kelly was still around and she said she that Kelly would never return to the business. As she said that, I thought to myself how Kelly told me the same thing once before- before taking my $300 (got it, it was a lot, but just wanted to fuck her once more) and making the walk of shame up the hill to the Hilltop Hotel.

LOL, good times though.[/QUOTE]Different Sue.

I've known this Sue since at least 2003. She worked at Hobby Horse, which was next to the small "normal" bar, back then (changed names a few times, now closed). She worked at Cheers on and off for a few years. Also worked at No. 1 about 10 years ago (now a trans bar). She has worked most recently at that one open bar VIP, at the front right corner of the entrance of the hill, which is now closing / closed due to water damage. Texas is where she moved to. She is fairly educated, so worth buying a drink for discussion. She's in tonight after 6 or 7 pm. Works randomly, I think. She doesn't like being talked about, and has followed this board before, so I'll leave it at that.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2592890]Comparing Miari vs Yeungdongpo vs Cheonho vs Pyeongtaek RLD.

What place is better August 2021 as far as price quality / age of girls and quality of service?

I know all 3 have really shrunk to a tiny shell of its former self.

The menu I want is BBBJ and / or BBFS.

I reconned Miari on weekend 6 pm-650 pm and 3 places opened their doors out of 10 ajummas I saw. 1 place had 2 yummy girls.

I heard Cheonho and Cheongryangri either closed or extremely limited.

A few months ago in Suwon and Yeongdongpo, I asked for NONCON and they preferred to taste elastic shrinkwrap.

Be row girls look like the row in Suwon and I expect A row service in Suwon to be not so hot.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]What are the prices in Miari? I prefer window girls have you had service from any of the girls in Suwon and Yeong?

So I hit the hill for a quick shot on the way home. It was early about 4 pm. Just wanted to get my rocks off. Well was ushered into the one spot open in the water damaged area. Had some skinny and I mean skinny Korean girl offer her services. Was quoted 300 k for full service WTF said no thanks just a blowey was quoted 150 k. Are these girls serious. I was there already didn't have time to go to my usual spots so said fuck it. On went the rubber, jesus I hate covered BJ's. But seeing as it is the hill I would go that way. She was horrible at it. I ended up taking off the cover and just went with a handy, concentrated got my nut. She cleaned me up and then asked for my number, to which I said next time. As I was leaving she said they are all moving to Texas bar.

Last week hit a massage shop on the corner near the electronics mart in Yongsan down in the lower level. Massage was good and was offered a HJ for 30 k. So I took it. The HJ was good. She took her time teased it and kept going after I shot. Some more massage afterwards. I showered and left.

The spot behind the Emart in Mapo with the HJ built into the price has new girls. One will offer FS for a cool 100 k tip.

Keep mongering and keep reporting.

Any good (recent) stories to share from CL encounters? It has become a real pain to post there, as I have to find a new WIFI IP address somewhere, change emails, and VPNs are generally not working to post from. There used to be a lot more available pre-covid. I see others trying, and know some of them must be you guys.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2594814]So I hit the hill for a quick shot on the way home. It was early about 4 pm. Just wanted to get my rocks off. Well was ushered into the one spot open in the water damaged area. Had some skinny and I mean skinny Korean girl offer her services. Was quoted 300 k for full service WTF said no thanks just a blowey was quoted 150 k. Are these girls serious. I was there already didn't have time to go to my usual spots so said fuck it. On went the rubber, jesus I hate covered BJ's. But seeing as it is the hill I would go that way. She was horrible at it. I ended up taking off the cover and just went with a handy, concentrated got my nut. She cleaned me up and then asked for my number, to which I said next time. As I was leaving she said they are all moving to Texas bar.

Last week hit a massage shop on the corner near the electronics mart in Yongsan down in the lower level. Massage was good and was offered a HJ for 30 k. So I took it. The HJ was good. She took her time teased it and kept going after I shot. Some more massage afterwards. I showered and left.

The spot behind the Emart in Mapo with the HJ built into the price has new girls. One will offer FS for a cool 100 k tip.

Keep mongering and keep reporting.[/QUOTE]Which bar were you at with the skinny girl? Ambrosia? Was she like 22 or 30 ish? I am wondering if it was tooth stick or if Nadia is back. Nadia is 30 ish and has a gob of tattoos. Toothstick is rail thin, very young, and has a wide smile. There are also two older women in 40's /50's. Both are bleach blonde. Both avoidable.

Texas seems to be the place many are going. There is still a bar or two that open randomly at the top, across from old Polly's Kettle. Most around there are bars Tone Loc would have nothing to do with, as the girls are not pure for the funky cold medina.

I heard from a friend that Sue's return to Texas has been delayed until maybe next week. Sounds like Texas will be a busy place. Personally, I don't like it when lots of them work together. The others get pissy and jealous if you spend time with someone. Much better experience if you are alone together in the bar, and less clock-watching.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2594814]So I hit the hill for a quick shot on the way home. It was early about 4 pm. Just wanted to get my rocks off. Well was ushered into the one spot open in the water damaged area. Had some skinny and I mean skinny Korean girl offer her services. Was quoted 300 k for full service WTF said no thanks just a blowey was quoted 150 k. Are these girls serious. I was there already didn't have time to go to my usual spots so said fuck it. On went the rubber, jesus I hate covered BJ's. But seeing as it is the hill I would go that way. She was horrible at it. I ended up taking off the cover and just went with a handy, concentrated got my nut. She cleaned me up and then asked for my number, to which I said next time. As I was leaving she said they are all moving to Texas bar.

Last week hit a massage shop on the corner near the electronics mart in Yongsan down in the lower level. Massage was good and was offered a HJ for 30 k. So I took it. The HJ was good. She took her time teased it and kept going after I shot. Some more massage afterwards. I showered and left.

The spot behind the Emart in Mapo with the HJ built into the price has new girls. One will offer FS for a cool 100 k tip.

Keep mongering and keep reporting.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

Also went back to the massage shop close to the Mapo E-mart.

I tried the new girl, I wasn't offered full service but I was offer a BBBJ for 50 k that I took.

Girls was pretty good at doing it and we also chat a bit after, she was quiet funny.

Found a couple other massage place in the area, will try them soon and let you know.

[QUOTE=Oliv312;2595173]Thanks for the info.
I tried the new girl, I wasn't offered full service but I was offer a BBBJ for 50 k that I took.[/QUOTE]Do you happen to remember her name? Around what time did you visit?

[QUOTE=Stack58;2595469]Do you happen to remember her name? Around what time did you visit?[/QUOTE]I don't remember her name exactly, was something like Daisy or Susy.

Went there around 1:30 pm on a Tuesday.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2595144]Which bar were you at with the skinny girl? Ambrosia? Was she like 22 or 30 ish? I am wondering if it was tooth stick or if Nadia is back. Nadia is 30 ish and has a gob of tattoos. Toothstick is rail thin, very young, and has a wide smile. There are also two older women in 40's /50's. Both are bleach blonde. Both avoidable.

Texas seems to be the place many are going. There is still a bar or two that open randomly at the top, across from old Polly's Kettle. Most around there are bars Tone Loc would have nothing to do with, as the girls are not pure for the funky cold medina.

I heard from a friend that Sue's return to Texas has been delayed until maybe next week. Sounds like Texas will be a busy place. Personally, I don't like it when lots of them work together. The others get pissy and jealous if you spend time with someone. Much better experience if you are alone together in the bar, and less clock-watching.[/QUOTE]It had to be tooth stick if there were tattoos that would of turned me on. I may have to try this Nadia. What's her rate. Honestly no way am I dropping 150 for a CBJ.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2594499]What are the prices in Miari? I prefer window girls have you had service from any of the girls in Suwon and Yeong?[/QUOTE]Until Yongsan and Cheongnyangni closed (Yongsan in the early 2010's and Cheongnyangni in early 2017), they were 70 k. Every time. No nonsense. No hassle. No negotiation. No bullshit massage. Just straight to what you're there for. After Yongsan closed, I had a paradise of sorts in Cheongnyangni with two girls giving BBFS between 2011-2017.70 k. Saw them in late 2016 and was not able to come back till Feb 2017. Whole area torn down. Girls gone. Couldn't believe it. Had no idea it was going to happen. If I had known I would have asked for their numbers to keep the good times rolling. Major disappointment.

Had been to Miari a few times over the years but Yongsan and Cheongnyangi had always been more convenient transportation-wise. Went back after Cheongnyangi closed in early 2017 and it was the shell of itself that it is now. And I had to haggle with the ajumas from 100 k down to 80 k, usually with much hassle. Now they seem to have all closed ranks and I can't talk any of them down from 100 k. (I have an earlier report or two about Miari).

Have been to Suwon twice. No a-row girls will accept non-asians as far as I know. Be-row girls not that great in my experience. 80 k. But I haven't done a thorough tour of the area. Maybe others have had better luck. (I have an earlier report).

Finally found Yongdeungpo a couple weeks back and it was closed for corona (see my earlier report).

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2595970]Until Yongsan and Cheongnyangni closed (Yongsan in the early 2010's and Cheongnyangni in early 2017), they were 70 k. Every time. No nonsense. No hassle. No negotiation. No bullshit massage. Just straight to what you're there for. After Yongsan closed, I had a paradise of sorts in Cheongnyangni with two girls giving BBFS between 2011-2017.70 k. Saw them in late 2016 and was not able to come back till Feb 2017. Whole area torn down. Girls gone. Couldn't believe it. Had no idea it was going to happen. If I had known I would have asked for their numbers to keep the good times rolling. Major disappointment.

Had been to Miari a few times over the years but Yongsan and Cheongnyangi had always been more convenient transportation-wise. Went back after Cheongnyangi closed in early 2017 and it was the shell of itself that it is now. And I had to haggle with the ajumas from 100 k down to 80 k, usually with much hassle. Now they seem to have all closed ranks and I can't talk any of them down from 100 k. (I have an earlier report or two about Miari).

Have been to Suwon twice. No a-row girls will accept non-asians as far as I know. Be-row girls not that great in my experience. 80 k. But I haven't done a thorough tour of the area. Maybe others have had better luck. (I have an earlier report)..[/QUOTE]I hope Yongdeungpo re opens soon at full capacity or else I will go to Busan, Masan RLDs!

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2595951]It had to be tooth stick if there were tattoos that would of turned me on. I may have to try this Nadia. What's her rate. Honestly no way am I dropping 150 for a CBJ.[/QUOTE]Nadia may be gone. She was as of a few months ago. That's what mamasan of Ambrosia said, but I figured she just moved to another bar. I am just guessing, but I believe her health was deteriorating from a hard life of drinking and not taking care of herself. She was on the hill leaving school around since at least 2006. I heard a rumor she went to live with her mom. Last time I saw her she looked a bit off. She was such a stunner, but literally had troubles bathing, taking care of teeth, etc. , since forever. Her teeth were rotted out of her head by 20's, and she had major dental surgery. Her tattoos were really bad. So sad, because this woman could have been a model. She was also a kind person.

Dropped by the hill and Pandora was open even tho lights were off. Got a HJ for 50 k. Nana is there, and is the sole renter. She works randomly when she feels like it. Even if lights are off, knock on the door and she may be there. She gives a crazy sloppy BJ, from past experience. I asked her if she had gotten much work, and she blurted out that she had given full service twice already that day. She has big boobs, BTW, if you are into that. Pandora is near the international food markets, under the Uzbek / Kazak? Restaurant. I recommend.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2596514]Dropped by the hill and Pandora was open even tho lights were off. Got a HJ for 50 k. Nana is there, and is the sole renter. She works randomly when she feels like it. Even if lights are off, knock on the door and she may be there. She gives a crazy sloppy BJ, from past experience. I asked her if she had gotten much work, and she blurted out that she had given full service twice already that day. She has big boobs, BTW, if you are into that. Pandora is near the international food markets, under the Uzbek / Kazak? Restaurant. I recommend.[/QUOTE]What time did you stop by?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2596856]What time did you stop by?[/QUOTE]Based on current law / Covid rules, I'm not sure how to answer that.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2597560]Based on current law / Covid rules, I'm not sure how to answer that.[/QUOTE]I tried around 4 pm the other day with no luck aside from the toothpick chick.

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2595970]Until Yongsan and Cheongnyangni closed (Yongsan in the early 2010's and Cheongnyangni in early 2017), they were 70 k. Every time. No nonsense. No hassle. No negotiation. No bullshit massage. Just straight to what you're there for. After Yongsan closed, I had a paradise of sorts in Cheongnyangni with two girls giving BBFS between 2011-2017.70 k. Saw them in late 2016 and was not able to come back till Feb 2017. Whole area torn down. Girls gone. Couldn't believe it. Had no idea it was going to happen. If I had known I would have asked for their numbers to keep the good times rolling. Major disappointment.

Had been to Miari a few times over the years but Yongsan and Cheongnyangi had always been more convenient transportation-wise. Went back after Cheongnyangi closed in early 2017 and it was the shell of itself that it is now. And I had to haggle with the ajumas from 100 k down to 80 k, usually with much hassle. Now they seem to have all closed ranks and I can't talk any of them down from 100 k. (I have an earlier report or two about Miari).

Have been to Suwon twice. No a-row girls will accept non-asians as far as I know. Be-row girls not that great in my experience. 80 k. But I haven't done a thorough tour of the area. Maybe others have had better luck. (I have an earlier report).

Finally found Yongdeungpo a couple weeks back and it was closed for corona (see my earlier report).[/QUOTE]Dongducheon has a nice little RLD if you're willing to take a train 1. 5 hours north. I used to be stationed there and the RLD was smack between where I lived offpost and the Army base, so I'd run through it every morning going to work. Sometimes I wouldn't even go to work and just stop there instead. It's got about 10-15 booths with an occasional good looking girl, but usually a handful of pretty decent ones. A lot of foreigners go there- GI's, factory workers, etc, so you're not likely to be turned away. 70 K was the going rate when I left in 2014, but may have increased since then. All in all, good little place if you're living in Uijeongbu or north, plus there's a better than average chance that you'll get BBFS action, if that's your thing (like it is mine).

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2597938]Dongducheon has a nice little RLD if you're willing to take a train 1. 5 hours north. I used to be stationed there and the RLD was smack between where I lived offpost and the Army base, so I'd run through it every morning going to work. Sometimes I wouldn't even go to work and just stop there instead. It's got about 10-15 booths with an occasional good looking girl, but usually a handful of pretty decent ones. A lot of foreigners go there- GI's, factory workers, etc, so you're not likely to be turned away. 70 K was the going rate when I left in 2014, but may have increased since then. All in all, good little place if you're living in Uijeongbu or north, plus there's a better than average chance that you'll get BBFS action, if that's your thing (like it is mine).[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this RLD in Dongducheon?

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2597938]Dongducheon has a nice little RLD if you're willing to take a train 1. 5 hours north. I used to be stationed there and the RLD was smack between where I lived offpost and the Army base, so I'd run through it every morning going to work. Sometimes I wouldn't even go to work and just stop there instead. It's got about 10-15 booths with an occasional good looking girl, but usually a handful of pretty decent ones. A lot of foreigners go there- GI's, factory workers, etc, so you're not likely to be turned away. 70 K was the going rate when I left in 2014, but may have increased since then. All in all, good little place if you're living in Uijeongbu or north, plus there's a better than average chance that you'll get BBFS action, if that's your thing (like it is mine).[/QUOTE]I've often thought about going up there even though it's really far from the center of Seoul and would probably be a tough train ride in the evenings with the rush hour commute. But I've never been able to get info on the exact location and have not made the trip because I didn't want to go all that way and not find it.

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2598350]I've often thought about going up there even though it's really far from the center of Seoul and would probably be a tough train ride in the evenings with the rush hour commute. But I've never been able to get info on the exact location and have not made the trip because I didn't want to go all that way and not find it.[/QUOTE]From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.

[QUOTE=Jimthom;2598350]I've often thought about going up there even though it's really far from the center of Seoul and would probably be a tough train ride in the evenings with the rush hour commute. But I've never been able to get info on the exact location and have not made the trip because I didn't want to go all that way and not find it.[/QUOTE]Another one that's way the hell out there near the DMZ in Paju is a huge RLD known as Yongjugol, probably the biggest in Korea now that 588 shutdown. I used to drive over or ride my motorcycle there while seeing the countryside. I only went twice and had mixed results- once at night with only one taker and once during the day with a little more luck.

Your chances of getting action there are probably slim- most girls stay away from foreigners since it affects their Korean customer base. However, if you like adventure, have a car or motorcycle, and like long drives in the country, then this might be of interest.

Paju station is in the lower left and the RLD is in the upper right of the image. You can also Google 'Yongjugol'.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2598491]From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.[/QUOTE]I checked on street view and I found no window girls, is this RLD bars and clubs?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2598831]I checked on street view and I found no window girls, is this RLD bars and clubs?[/QUOTE]No bars and clubs, just window girls. The only thing you'll see from street view are the green or blue privacy curtains that cover the alleyways. You can't drive through and look at the girls, you have to foot it.

How do the Thai massage places work? There is one between Dongmyo amd Sinseoldong station, on the South side of the street, 2nd floor. It is about 40,000 for 60 minutes. But what do you saw for extras? Thought I read once that you hold up a few fingers? Like 2 or 3? Not sure this place is game for that, or not?

Anybody knows about anma who accepted foreigner in corona situation like this?

I just went to gain and dao anmas but they said they are not accept foreigner.

I just went to fish, catle, and donut anma but it looks like they are not operating anymore.

Please give me suggestion.

I went to the hill, and got called into Green Cafe (I think?) At the top. Was told it was 250 for full service and 100 for a BJ. Knew it was a rip off. Went on Dr to Gireum Station and walked the back areas, I think one old lady yelled at me, but still found a tiny woman to fuck. Probably around 40, but it's standard about there anyway. The RLD isn't off limits to foreigners, IMO, just got to work it and speak a tiny amount of Korean.

[QUOTE=Oliv312;2595173]Thanks for the info.

Also went back to the massage shop close to the Mapo E-mart.

I tried the new girl, I wasn't offered full service but I was offer a BBBJ for 50 k that I took.

Girls was pretty good at doing it and we also chat a bit after, she was quiet funny.

Found a couple other massage place in the area, will try them soon and let you know.[/QUOTE]Went back to here the other night too. First tried a newer aroma place I'd seen near Ehwa but it wasnt open.

Did the 100 k aroma, provider was a little chubby, nice tits probably 40 ish? Not thai, but not korean either. Massage was decent enough, standard he wasn't too bad either and I definitely got my full hour (which I like).

This place doesn't wow me, but its pretty solid for what it is and its nice to be able to just walk in. Standard thai places are a better deal, it can be hard to get appointments at them lately.

Anyone got any new massage places?

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2598491]From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That's helpful info. Much appreciated. I'll report when I decide to brave the rush hour subway and give it a try.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2598494]Another one that's way the hell out there near the DMZ in Paju is a huge RLD known as Yongjugol, probably the biggest in Korea now that 588 shutdown. I used to drive over or ride my motorcycle there while seeing the countryside. I only went twice and had mixed results- once at night with only one taker and once during the day with a little more luck.

Your chances of getting action there are probably slim- most girls stay away from foreigners since it affects their Korean customer base. However, if you like adventure, have a car or motorcycle, and like long drives in the country, then this might be of interest.

Paju station is in the lower left and the RLD is in the upper right of the image. You can also Google 'Yongjugol'.[/QUOTE]That's an adventure. Years back I used to ride my bicycle on the back roads there through the rice fields. Pretty nice. Now it seems like there's another reason to dust off the old cycle. Even if I get rejected, I'll have had my ride down memory lane. I'll report if I make it there. Thanks.

Finally vaxxed. I'm thinking either I hit up Busan RLD or Seoul to get a girl back at a hotel. If I go to Seoul what kind of hotel should I get? I'll probably have to stay over anyway.

I've been looking into several websites but unsure if they offer incall services. Does anyone have any information on this or do all the providers only do outcall?

Is there anyone meet her? I think that she is hot. But I am not sure she is real.

[QUOTE=Yangjo;2604529]Is there anyone meet her? I think that she is hot. But I am not sure she is real.[/QUOTE]I find the prices there laughably off-putting. But I am a cheapie Charlie.

I am on a high right now because I found a nearby shop with a lady in her 50's who is my style. She has the body I like, skin I like, and agreed to 5 min (which really means 10) HJ's for a mere 50 k. She really seems into me, too. Should make for some nice visits. She speaks some English, so I may try to see if she is game to trade English lessons for HJ's. I love it when that works out -- very intimate, with some fun at the end. I was looking for a quick in and out place with an acceptable worker, and I have found it.

Hello fellow mongers,

This is a delayed FR and hence apologies right at the outset.

Was in Seoul before Corona times. Johnny forced me to explore. Quick spa search showed Jinju in Gangnam, wasn't too far from me either. The only risk was whether they took walk ins. Decided to give it a shot.

Walk ins were welcome. Payment was in advance, only HJ on offer, all damages only at the counter. Unfortunately because of currency etc confusion I can't say how much it was. But definitely that all belongings go into a locker, a wearable key is given, and hence no question of tips.

It's like an assembly line, folks.

A euro style shower with fellow visitors going full Monty together, brushing their teeth with the kit provided, and then getting ready.

Next step is a massage with a hot towel wrap. Disposables are compulsory. For a moment I thought I got scammed again. However after the massage another woman walks in, starts giving a vigorous HJ until you come.

I was almost sore.

In summary.

Massage 6/10.

HJ 4/10.

Looks, feel, comfort, fun all 0/10.

WIR: obviously no! I'd rather jerk myself off.

Hi everyone,

This is again a delayed FR (like I noted earlier I decided to be regular poster here and seek help and guidance to avoid any further deceptions / problems) and hence apologies right at the outset.

This is a report of how I got deceived again. This time unintentionally.

Found couple of contacts of indies in Seoul from I think MR or some such site. Texted both, one replied in good English. Claimed herself to be Latina. When asked for pics, she happily obliged. The couple of days we had in between, she was having a decent conversation etc. From the pics she appeared to be an angel. The damages were reasonable too as quoted by her. I think it was about USD 150 for 2 h, at my hotel.

Fixed the appointment, she turned up about an hour late after continually confirming that she's on her way and was stuck in traffic. When she did come to the room, I saw that she had wrinkles, and that look of an artificially slim (like anorexic) person.

I was totally turned off. Politely told her that she looks nothing like her pics. She still asked to confirm if I don't need the services. Calmly. I politely refused. She asked for taxi fare. Gave her USD 25 and said goodbye without even shaking hands.

So much for pics. I should've possibly had a video call but she kept on saying she's in a crowded place with her friends etc. That should've been a clue. Anyway lesson learnt.

Amen.

It sucks that Philippines is still closed to regular travelling foreigners. Normally during holidays vacations and weekends I used to be there regularly.

Yeongdongpo is very YMMV and most girls don't even give you eye contact.

I had some good experiences with younger girls in Miari recently but most of the ones I peek through the curtains with ajuma showing are not appetizing so I keep going. Most of the girls are or look late 30's early 40's over the hill; opposite of 15-20 years ago when there were tons of 20-24 year old girls. One place in Mia has many groups going in every 30 minutes and seem to get all the traffic compared to other places there with bad service.

I had a terrible experience in Miari with a place near the subway entrance (2nd closest entrance and 3 places on the left side invited by a younger looking softer speaking ajuma) so if you don't get any eye contact with the girl after you choose her you better cancel.

I might have to try to visit Dongducheon out of curiosity since Seoul, Pyeongtaek and Suwon are so awful lately.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2598491]From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.[/QUOTE]Wow thanks for the map. No wonder I could not easily find it.

[QUOTE=PonyTony;2605852]Hi everyone,

This is again a delayed FR (like I noted earlier I decided to be regular poster here and seek help and guidance to avoid any further
Found couple of contacts of indies in Seoul from I think MR or some such site.
Amen.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the chance.

Do you have the name she advertises as?

I've had better luck with Craigslist than MR to be honest. CR is now under heavy moderation though so I haven't had much success in months.

In Korea, is there a forum like ISG?

Trying to find some info where locals go to with reviews but it's been difficult.

Please lmk if you know any.

[QUOTE=Pokedex;2606583]In Korea, is there a forum like ISG?

Trying to find some info where locals go to with reviews but it's been difficult.

Please lmk if you know any.[/QUOTE]Korean guys don't post about fight club. They only discuss in person with their hyungs, friends and dongsengs while drinking and mongering in a noraebang, room salon and the like. The only way you will get good mileage is to have a Korean (and I'm talking native, not gyopo) buddy. It will open doors that are slammed shut to non-Koreans. Even among Koreans, there are places that will not even take gyopos and only natives. To take it even further, there are places that will even distinguish between native Koreans of higher and lower classes. It is a complex society and the hobbying environment there is no different.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2598491]From the Dongducheonjungang station in the lower right corner, the round about is your reference point. The RLD areas are marked with X's.[/QUOTE]The area had 6-8 ladies over 30 only around 5 pm Chuseok Eve. Maybe I visited too early. Weird that the RLD is in the alleyways semi-covered with curtains smack in the middle of the village / small town. It wasn't my cup of tea, so I headed on to Miari around 6 pm overrun with foreigners and not open maybe too early. Later I headed to Yeongdeungpo and found the Arow completely closed but Brow was a bit happening. I TOFTT in the Brow and it was nice. 80 k with condom and 100 k without but it was a bit rushed.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2606667]The area had 6-8 ladies over 30 only around 5 pm Chuseok Eve. Maybe I visited too early. Weird that the RLD is in the alleyways semi-covered with curtains smack in the middle of the village / small town. It wasn't my cup of tea, so I headed on to Miari around 6 pm overrun with foreigners and not open maybe too early. Later I headed to Yeongdeungpo and found the Arow completely closed but Brow was a bit happening. I TOFTT in the Brow and it was nice. 80 k with condom and 100 k without but it was a bit rushed.[/QUOTE]Nice How did she look like? What was she wearing? I wonder with BBFS allows Cip?

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2606667]The area had 6-8 ladies over 30 only around 5 pm Chuseok Eve. Maybe I visited too early. Weird that the RLD is in the alleyways semi-covered with curtains smack in the middle of the village / small town. It wasn't my cup of tea, so I headed on to Miari around 6 pm overrun with foreigners and not open maybe too early. Later I headed to Yeongdeungpo and found the Arow completely closed but Brow was a bit happening. I TOFTT in the Brow and it was nice. 80 k with condom and 100 k without but it was a bit rushed.[/QUOTE]When you say Brow are you talking about the little alley between the glass houses and main road? A few older girls hang out there in phone booth like. It is so hit or miss in Yeong. In Dongde I have a always had success and there was a cute all natural girl in her 20's. I only saw her there once so I guess she moved on.

[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2606634]Korean guys don't post about fight club. They only discuss in person with their hyungs, friends and dongsengs while drinking and mongering in a noraebang, room salon and the like. The only way you will get good mileage is to have a Korean (and I'm talking native, not gyopo) buddy. It will open doors that are slammed shut to non-Koreans. Even among Koreans, there are places that will not even take gyopos and only natives. To take it even further, there are places that will even distinguish between native Koreans of higher and lower classes. It is a complex society and the hobbying environment there is no different.[/QUOTE]If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2607240]If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.[/QUOTE]I should have clarified. I didn't mean to say there are no reviews, just nowhere near as many as you'd expect to see given the extent the native guys monger.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2607240]If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.[/QUOTE]Yes I've seen those but they might be fake? More interested in a forum based discussion for unbiased reviews of all OPs and gunmas.

Found one or two but they seem out of date. I guess Koreans don't really talk about it LOL.

I was in a RLD recently and when the police rode through they rushed to close all the windows and wait until the patrol was gone. We all know the deal here, everything is OK until it isn't and then there are fines, jail time and embarrassment.

Yes it was BBBJ BBFS with CIP but I thought she used too much jell too slippery during the BBFS so it was also very YMMV and hard for me to stand.

She looked like early 30's maybe wearing jeans but can't remember color of her shirt. She was slender with tiny boobs like an older university girl, the way I prefer.

Yes as someone pointed out there were 4-6 girls situated in the midpoint between the main busy street and RLD street. The other SWs on the busy main were not attractive. I don't know if they are interested in foreigners or not.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2606981]Nice How did she look like? What was she wearing? I wonder with BBFS allows Cip?[/QUOTE]

The opcon website shows tons of reviews from Koreans but the reviews don't provide any details of the actual service provided.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2607240]If you look at the sites they advertise hugtels there are many reviews. Also seems to be discussions boards and member posted ads. Yes, there are always levels based off what you are willing to spend. A lot of options if you want to spend more money.[/QUOTE]

Sorry I have to change my previous opstar comment here in ISG.

I found that opstar has long comments about various places written in Korean when you click on hugi and short thumbs up comments when you click on daetgeul. So you can use translate. [URL]google.com[/URL] I guess.

I am also guessing that foreigners might have a different or sometimes same experience then Koreans who write the comments.

There are too many options to choose from when looking at opstar and it gets overwhelming.

[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2606634]Korean guys don't post about fight club. They only discuss in person with their hyungs, friends and dongsengs while drinking and mongering in a noraebang, room salon and the like. The only way you will get good mileage is to have a Korean (and I'm talking native, not gyopo) buddy. It will open doors that are slammed shut to non-Koreans. Even among Koreans, there are places that will not even take gyopos and only natives. To take it even further, there are places that will even distinguish between native Koreans of higher and lower classes. It is a complex society and the hobbying environment there is no different.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2607897]Yes it was BBBJ BBFS with CIP but I thought she used too much jell too slippery during the BBFS so it was also very YMMV and hard for me to stand.

She looked like early 30's maybe wearing jeans but can't remember color of her shirt. She was slender with tiny boobs like an older university girl, the way I prefer.

Yes as someone pointed out there were 4-6 girls situated in the midpoint between the main busy street and RLD street. The other SWs on the busy main were not attractive. I don't know if they are interested in foreigners or not.[/QUOTE]Howdy there!

How much time to they give you for 1 shot service at YDP?

Is there a quick shower there or they just wipe you down?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2607897]Yes it was BBBJ BBFS with CIP but I thought she used too much jell too slippery during the BBFS so it was also very YMMV and hard for me to stand.

She looked like early 30's maybe wearing jeans but can't remember color of her shirt. She was slender with tiny boobs like an older university girl, the way I prefer.

Yes as someone pointed out there were 4-6 girls situated in the midpoint between the main busy street and RLD street. The other SWs on the busy main were not attractive. I don't know if they are interested in foreigners or not.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Have you been to the Suwon RLD? I hope all the girls in YDP offer BBFS?

20 minutes very YMMV.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2608176]Howdy there!

How much time to they give you for 1 shot service at YDP?

Is there a quick shower there or they just wipe you down?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2608259]20 minutes very YMMV.[/QUOTE]20 min is fast LOL. Do they strip you down once you enter the room? Any quick showers there?

Because it is very YMMV I usually preload with Libido max 2-3 caps from the PX or MaxVit from the Philippines with few sips of energy drink from PX an hour before to digest, then.

20 minutes Right before natural activity I take GooGoo from Korean pharmacy with another sip to swallow the supplement.

Googoo is a local form of Cialis while Palpal is local form of Viagra. Same price for foreigners and Koreans because they are not covered by national insurance.

Maybe this is overdoing it but I have had failure to fire in the past in RLD, so I have to see nonverbal signs from the girl and manager before payment if the experience will be amazingly explosive or not.

Within the RLD experience, they said take off your clothes.

I always ask to use the bathroom to really use it and quickly to wash junior.

They start with BBBJ then they love you while they are on top rodeo style.

I miss the days in Phil when they give you 5-6 hours or all night together to cum so I used to schedule 3-4 per day on the long weekend almost every weekend; that my friends was real all natural love and it was always GFE or GFE / PSE meeting through FB then whatsapp / kakao or local text msging follow up.

In my Korea experiences, I have always done RLD and only recently I started the hugetel / massage research interest recently and there is a huge market in many cities when you find the elusive website. See previous articles here about that website.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2608374]20 min is fast LOL. Do they strip you down once you enter the room? Any quick showers there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2608475]Because it is very YMMV I usually preload with Libido max 2-3 caps from the PX or MaxVit from the Philippines with few sips of energy drink from PX an hour before to digest, then.

20 minutes Right before natural activity I take GooGoo from Korean pharmacy with another sip to swallow the supplement.

Googoo is a local form of Cialis while Palpal is local form of Viagra. Same price for foreigners and Koreans because they are not covered by national insurance.

Maybe this is overdoing it but I have had failure to fire in the past in RLD, so I have to see nonverbal signs from the girl and manager before payment if the experience will be amazingly explosive or not.

Within the RLD experience, they said take off your clothes.

I always ask to use the bathroom to really use it and quickly to wash junior.

They start with BBBJ then they love you while they are on top rodeo style.

I miss the days in Phil when they give you 5-6 hours or all night together to cum so I used to schedule 3-4 per day on the long weekend almost every weekend; that my friends was real all natural love and it was always GFE or GFE / PSE meeting through FB then whatsapp / kakao or local text msging follow up.

In my Korea experiences, I have always done RLD and only recently I started the hugetel / massage research interest recently and there is a huge market in many cities when you find the elusive website. See previous articles here about that website.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report!

I was just curious how they do things since they only give 20 min. Of course ID shower up before going there anyway but you would think the SP would require the customer to wash up vigorously since a lot of the action is BBFS.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2608475]Because it is very YMMV I usually preload with Libido max 2-3 caps from the PX or MaxVit from the Philippines with few sips of energy drink from PX an hour before to digest, then.

20 minutes Right before natural activity I take GooGoo from Korean pharmacy with another sip to swallow the supplement.

Googoo is a local form of Cialis while Palpal is local form of Viagra. Same price for foreigners and Koreans because they are not covered by national insurance.

Maybe this is overdoing it but I have had failure to fire in the past in RLD, so I have to see nonverbal signs from the girl and manager before payment if the experience will be amazingly explosive or not.

Within the RLD experience, they said take off your clothes.

I always ask to use the bathroom to really use it and quickly to wash junior.

They start with BBBJ then they love you while they are on top rodeo style.

I miss the days in Phil when they give you 5-6 hours or all night together to cum so I used to schedule 3-4 per day on the long weekend almost every weekend; that my friends was real all natural love and it was always GFE or GFE / PSE meeting through FB then whatsapp / kakao or local text msging follow up.

In my Korea experiences, I have always done RLD and only recently I started the hugetel / massage research interest recently and there is a huge market in many cities when you find the elusive website. See previous articles here about that website.[/QUOTE]JeanEspero, Can you just walk into pharmacy and get the GooGoo or Palpal without a script? Thanks for the report and info. I too have been going to hungetel's too when my GF is busy with her family / kids.

Thanks again.

OC.

Does anyone know the name of the Uzbek restaurant on the hill or does it say something obvious like "Uzbekistan food" in big letters? Looking to try this sloppy talent I keep reading about on here. Does she still look pretty good? A description of large cups make it sound like she's obese and not chubby.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2614208]Does anyone know the name of the Uzbek restaurant on the hill or does it say something obvious like "Uzbekistan food" in big letters? Looking to try this sloppy talent I keep reading about on here. Does she still look pretty good? A description of large cups make it sound like she's obese and not chubby.[/QUOTE]Signage is pretty obvious. Foreign Food Mart is on the opposite sidewalk if that helps.

I don't remember which place it is though as there are 3 doors under the restaurant.

Leftmost girl was okay but I don't think it's her.

I've tried contacting her but got abrupt responses for whatever reason. It wasn't rude but abrupt / short. I'm going to try contacting her again but, after searching a ton I can't find a single review about her. Has anybody seen her before?

T. I. A.

Something I found useful on my trips to Korea and before the Corona, is a bit of studying, because knowing the language has proved useful on several occasions. Korean Language Decoded is the name of the software, from ZenPowerStore. Did me good, and opened up some opportunities that I probably wouldn't have got. Hooked up in unexpected ways, to include from a conversation at a Burger King in Seoul, of all places. Luck tends to favor the prepared.

[QUOTE=BradleyPillay;2614582]I've tried contacting her but got abrupt responses for whatever reason. It wasn't rude but abrupt / short. I'm going to try contacting her again but, after searching a ton I can't find a single review about her. Has anybody seen her before?

T. I. A.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience. However she doesn't respond anymore. Not sure if this is a genuine or a fake profile. No responses to calls / mails / texts.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2614208]Does anyone know the name of the Uzbek restaurant on the hill or does it say something obvious like "Uzbekistan food" in big letters? Looking to try this sloppy talent I keep reading about on here. Does she still look pretty good? A description of large cups make it sound like she's obese and not chubby.[/QUOTE]The Uzbeck restaurant is obvious, and has Uzbekistan large on the sign. I forget the name, but it sounds something like Tazzi or Razzi or some such. It is next ro and above the first right side foreign food market.

The bar under it is Pandora. The girl working there is Nana. She is a little chubby for a Korean (which means sort of normal for many western ladies) but not in a bad way. She still looks very good, for mid 30's. I have known her since the day she started almost 18 years ago at the old Moulin Rouge. Nice lady. The men used to practically line up to see her, back then, when she wasn't constantly on outcall. I think I blew in 20 seconds my first time with her, way back when. I recently saw her (she works fairly randomly) and asked her is she had any sex lately. She just blurted out, "I f'ed two guys this afternoon." I was not expecting a blunt answer. Haha. The other women in Itaewon must be jealous of her business, because I have been asked about her recently.

Chrome and trailor hitch expression fits.

Is all action on the hill covered FS?

Hi there,

I've found no reviews but an independent Latina on city of love, Seoul, got back to me via email and told me that we can meet up. I'm skeptical though about the post and would like to know if anyone has ever seen her before? If not then it'll be better to venture into a rdl or massage place where I know there'll be a better possibility of some action then take a chance with a scammer. I think there are quite some scams that happens on sites like that.

T. I. A.

Are there any places to pick up street walkers or bars where women hang out and you realize they are punting when they hit on you? I'm in the mood for a Russian.

Have any of you done bbfscip or bbfscim at an OP?

Wonder how safe it is.

I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.

Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.

Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and open—but with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through. Others may have better luck.

That was all that I could see going on there the evening I walked through. Don't know what it was like in the past, but it doesn't seem very happening these days.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2623172]I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.

Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.

Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through. Others may have better luck.

That was all that I could see going on there the evening I walked through. Don't know what it was like in the past, but it doesn't seem very happening these days.[/QUOTE]At what time did you visit? When I was there summer 2019 everything was closed until 20:00. At 20:00 suddenly all the lights in the houses along the main road lit up and out came the ladies.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2623172]I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.

Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.

Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through..[/QUOTE]I hope nothing happens to it and stay open and operating for a long time! I need to know at what times and day most girls are open for business?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2623547]I hope nothing happens to it and stay open and operating for a long time! I need to know at what times and day most girls are open for business?[/QUOTE]It sounds like it will be closed / "renovated" like Chun-ho and 588 was. I wouldn't count on it being open for much longer. Korea started on this road to clean up things like this years ago.

[QUOTE=Mojoman74;2623332]At what time did you visit? When I was there summer 2019 everything was closed until 20:00. At 20:00 suddenly all the lights in the houses along the main road lit up and out came the ladies.[/QUOTE]Really? Interesting. Sunset was at around 5:30 when I went there and I loitered around the area till about 7. Sunset in July is around 8, but maybe it doesn't have to do with how dark it is. That would be interesting if there is an "opening time" since there wasn't at the former Yongsan and Cheongnyangni RLDs (though of course there were more girls at night at those places). Maybe I'll have to go back after 8 next time. Thanks for the tip.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2623172]I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.

Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.
[/QUOTE]I had been there a few months before Covid, Oct / Nov 2018. It was open and business as usual then. I do remember seeing some posts in early 2020 about this redevelopment thing. Not only YDP, I think even the Hill was going to see some changes due to this. But not sure if any of it really happened or things paused due to Covid.

One of the local guys should be able to share details on this. But older posts on YDP redevelopment have been there.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2624201]Really? Interesting. Sunset was at around 5:30 when I went there and I loitered around the area till about 7. Sunset in July is around 8, but maybe it doesn't have to do with how dark it is. That would be interesting if there is an "opening time" since there wasn't at the former Yongsan and Cheongnyangni RLDs (though of course there were more girls at night at those places). Maybe I'll have to go back after 8 next time. Thanks for the tip.[/QUOTE]Your right, 588 and Yongsan were open 24/7, I went many times there, good times. Seems like Ydp is different, I was walking around before 20:00 too and was puzzled that there were no girls. And then at 20:00 suddenly it opened.

Is there any anma which accepted foreigners?

I went to several anma, but they rejected me because I'm foreigner.

I thought it because Covid situation back then, but right now government already lift up some of restrictions and already got vaccinated too.

Extremely sorry for the delayed reply!

As far as I know you can get them without prescription but I never asked directly. Different pharmacies might charge different prices so try to ask an area with many pharmacies like near hospitals. In my Korean pharmacies they are cheaper than US made see and V.

I have been occasionally getting ED during the most inconvenient times, so sometimes the 88 Palpal and 99 Gugu work and doesn't work just like sometimes see and V. In other words I can't tell you perfectly the efficacy of all those supplements.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2609342]JeanEspero, Can you just walk into pharmacy and get the GooGoo or Palpal without a script? Thanks for the report and info. I too have been going to hungetel's too when my GF is busy with her family / kids.

Thanks again.

OC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2629299]Extremely sorry for the delayed reply!

As far as I know you can get them without prescription but I never asked directly. Different pharmacies might charge different prices so try to ask an area with many pharmacies like near hospitals. In my Korean pharmacies they are cheaper than US made see and V.

I have been occasionally getting ED during the most inconvenient times, so sometimes the 88 Palpal and 99 Gugu work and doesn't work just like sometimes see and V. In other words I can't tell you perfectly the efficacy of all those supplements.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much.

It is quite tough to get in there if you are not a local. I got lucky at Castle Anma. I had put a FR here back in Nov 2019. Check out if the place is still open, and try your luck.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2391377&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2391377.

[QUOTE=FunSeoul;2628417]Is there any anma which accepted foreigners?

I went to several anma, but they rejected me because I'm foreigner.

I thought it because Covid situation back then, but right now government already lift up some of restrictions and already got vaccinated too.[/QUOTE]

I visited YDP around 7 pm in September 2 months ago on a weekday and only the be row was open halfway between train station and the RLD street. I might check it out again this weekend.

Guys update if any of you drop by YDP Or Ddongduckccheon DDC this month November 2021 on the weekend and or after 8 pm.

SITREP.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2623172]I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.

Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.

Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking. About halfway back to the major intersection in front of the station, though, there was a small street leading left into the be row, where red lights were on an business was open. But no one was game for me when I walked through. Others may have better luck..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2629299]Extremely sorry for the delayed reply!

As far as I know you can get them without prescription but I never asked directly. Different pharmacies might charge different prices so try to ask an area with many pharmacies like near hospitals. In my Korean pharmacies they are cheaper than US made see and V.

I have been occasionally getting ED during the most inconvenient times, so sometimes the 88 Palpal and 99 Gugu work and doesn't work just like sometimes see and V. In other words I can't tell you perfectly the efficacy of all those supplements.[/QUOTE]Thank you Jean, I walked into a pharmacy and asked the guy for Gugu (he spoke good English), but he didn't know what I meant. I pointed at my junk and did a little motion with my index finger and he said Cialis and I said yes. He sent a lady from behind the counter outside and told me to wait a few minutes, a few minutes later she came back in with the goods (not sure what that was all about, but whatever). 30 K won for four tabs. Only had to make one stop and not shop around. That was easier than I thought. Thanks again, I have a big weekend (Friday Sunday) with my GF on the east coast and want to be at peak performance. Hehe.

I dropped by PTK around 430 pm but seemed to be not happening. All girls looked over 30 with short hair and chubby.

Then I took subway to YDP main row of 8 stalls is definitely open after 8 pm with around 4 to6 hotties and asked for 100,000 or ship man won in Korean but all told me it had be with condom. About 2 or 3 months someone let me do BBFS BBBJ but this time no takers. The warehouse area with the older ladies on the side of the busy road directly in front of the train station parallel to RLD street asked for 60,000 but again only with condom. I couldn't try because it almost always doesn't work with CCD.

I took Mugunghwa train from YDP to PTK then made a few rounds in PTK. There were maybe 3 hotties but refused to talk to me or deal with foreigners after I asked "how much" Eol-Mam-Ni-Ka? And they were quickly taken by customers.

I got home around 12 midnight.

Conclusion. Night time in PTK and YDP is harder to monger and good chance all you can do is window shopping.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2623172]I was passing through and decided to check Youngdeungpo out a week or so after the Nov. 1 lifting of restrictions on bars, restaurants, etc. But an hour after sunset the whole street was dark and all curtains were closed. Didn't mean nobody was home as I saw a couple cleaning ladies (pimps?) knock on glass doors and quickly slip inside. Couldn't see in, though. Definitely no "customers" going in the glass doors.

Also noticed a banner above the street. I got the gist of it and it sounded ominous. Punched it into google translate which spit out "youngdeungpo station downtown station area urban redevelopment. Type: redevelopment project promotion preparatory committee. " Sounds to me like the RLD is on the chopping block. But I haven't been there till recently, so veterans may have been seeing the banner for a while. If so, maybe it's not as ominous as it sounded to me.

Anyway, reaching the west end of the main glass windows street and turning left towards the big street that parallels the subway tracks there was actually one booth lit up and openbut with a fattie / ugly. Got to the main street paralleling the tracks and turned left again heading back toward the subway station. Was a bit surprised to see a couple of (unlit) booths right on the big, main street with providers waiting in them. But so oldie / fattie / ugly that I just kept walking..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2629608]It is quite tough to get in there if you are not a local. I got lucky at Castle Anma. I had put a FR here back in Nov 2019. Check out if the place is still open, and try your luck.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2391377&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2391377.[/QUOTE]Thank you MickeyDuck. I will try to go there, but can you let me know the exact location? Because I tried to go there but I can't find it.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2630580]I dropped by PTK around 430 pm but seemed to be not happening. All girls looked over 30 with short hair and chubby.

Then I took subway to YDP main row of 8 stalls is definitely open after 8 pm with around 4 to6 hotties and asked for 100,000 or ship man won in Korean but all told me it had be with condom. About 2 or 3 months someone let me do BBFS BBBJ but this time no takers. The warehouse area with the older ladies on the side of the busy road directly in front of the train station parallel to RLD street asked for 60,000 but again only with condom. I couldn't try because it almost always doesn't work with CCD.

I took Mugunghwa train from YDP to PTK then made a few rounds in PTK. There were maybe 3 hotties but refused to talk to me or deal with foreigners after I asked "how much" Eol-Mam-Ni-Ka? And they were quickly taken by customers.

I got home around 12 midnight.

Conclusion. Night time in PTK and YDP is harder to monger and good chance all you can do is window shopping.[/QUOTE]Oh you travelled all the way to seoul and back empty handed?? Shoulda took covered service. Don't expect much in RLDs regarding BBFS. I probably wouldn't either if I were in their shoes seeing a dozen guys a night. But I'm sure there are a few.

It doesn't work at all for me with CD plus the BJ with CD makes me imagine them sucking on tire rubber and my semi hard on gets soft then the CD won't even attach so it becomes an expensive pull or tug. Maybe my junior is allergic to CDS plus it was spoiled by the Philippines adventures. It remembers the great times so well that it doesn't compensate for recent struggles.

I returned to PTK today late morning and late afternoon and it was totally abandoned absolutely no activity no red lights at all.

In between I dropped by Bijeon Sosabel to get some typical shower massage then BJ then covered covertops. It kind of worked because I haven't had it for almost 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2630830]Oh you travelled all the way to seoul and back empty handed?? Shoulda took covered service. Don't expect much in RLDs regarding BBFS. I probably wouldn't either if I were in their shoes seeing a dozen guys a night. But I'm sure there are a few.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OralSea;2629679] He sent a lady from behind the counter outside and told me to wait a few minutes, a few minutes later she came back in with the goods (not sure what that was all about,..[/QUOTE]That pharmacy didn't carry the drug in its formulary but a nearby pharmacy did. So the lady went to that one, made the purchase on your behalf, and then sold it to you at a markup.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2630859]It doesn't work at all for me with CD plus the BJ with CD makes me imagine them sucking on tire rubber and my semi hard on gets soft then the CD won't even attach so it becomes an expensive pull or tug. Maybe my junior is allergic to CDS plus it was spoiled by the Philippines adventures. It remembers the great times so well that it doesn't compensate for recent struggles.

I returned to PTK today late morning and late afternoon and it was totally abandoned absolutely no activity no red lights at all.

In between I dropped by Bijeon Sosabel to get some typical shower massage then BJ then covered covertops. It kind of worked because I haven't had it for almost 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]I see.

What do you mean by covertops? You mentioned you arent using condoms.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2630859]It doesn't work at all for me with CD plus the BJ with CD makes me imagine them sucking on tire rubber and my semi hard on gets soft then the CD won't even attach so it becomes an expensive pull or tug. Maybe my junior is allergic to CDS plus it was spoiled by the Philippines adventures. It remembers the great times so well that it doesn't compensate for recent struggles.

I returned to PTK today late morning and late afternoon and it was totally abandoned absolutely no activity no red lights at all.

In between I dropped by Bijeon Sosabel to get some typical shower massage then BJ then covered covertops. It kind of worked because I haven't had it for almost 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]May I ask what is sosabel? I m open to all the options in Korea.

I meant Covered FS there but becomes pull tug.

From Pyeongtaek Station take bus 10 to get off at CGV Bijeon Sosa or you can cross the street from RLD then take bus 888 B.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2631131]I see.

What do you mean by covertops? You mentioned you arent using condoms.[/QUOTE]

I meant Covered FS (not covertop) there but becomes pull tug.

From Pyeongtaek Station take bus 10 to get off at CGV Bijeon Sosa or you can cross the street from RLD then take bus 888 B.

I used to quickly view RLD then bus to Bijeon CGV if RLD doesn't offer the right individual menu choices. Lately RLD is closed on some days.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2631205]May I ask what is sosabel? I m open to all the options in Korea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheRose;2630906]That pharmacy didn't carry the drug in its formulary but a nearby pharmacy did. So the lady went to that one, made the purchase on your behalf, and then sold it to you at a markup.[/QUOTE]In the location I went to there wasn't a pharmacy anywhere near there and she was only gone for a few minutes. The place was at a roadside market area along a major roadway, but there is sex shop about 150 M from there, I was going to go there next if they said no. Maybe she went there, I should try there next time. LOL.

Good point Bro Thanks.

Was in Itaewon at night for the first time in years. Tried to see Candy down at Tiffany Bar, as she is my go-to for a great time GFE. However, she was indisposed and ventured up the hill. Most of the old places are boarded up or already had new modern Korean-centric bars going. However, up the right side next to Evergreen I saw a girl with tits bigger than my head standing in the door near the top of the hill.

Recognized her as Cherrie, a slightly plump lady with enormous jugs who I had sampled many times in years past. Worked out a BBBJ and asked her to go upstairs instead of her room across the street. She is a damn pro, as can be expected, but I felt proud that I held out for about 10-12 minutes of sloppy wet BJ action with her self-initiating lots of ball-licking, rimming, and titfucking action in that short time. Pulled out and finished all over those giant juggs of her and she was decent enough to clean me up orally. The tits alone are worth it, and she has a friendly personality and eager to please. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get her to double team ya with Candy. Damn. I think I need to make another trip up there before Christmas.

Those of you who frequent Thai spots. Anyone else noticing a decline in quality? Lot of fat, chubby, older and ugly women on the scene lately. Unfortunately a lot of these shops don't give you the option of choosing your girl.

Found a place that offered FS for 100 after the massage. Girl was very chubby but somehow I willed myself to do it. Figured it was a fluke and I'll try again in hopes of the lean Thai spinner type I'm used to seeing in this line of work. This time I got an even fatter chick. The massage was good because of her weight and mass but when she asked if I wanted service I swiftly declined.

Found another place while on a trip 2 hours away. Landed another chubster who quoted me 100 for HJ with no touching. Hard no.

Recently found a good outcall Thai place. They don't show pictures or allow me to choose girl but they seemed confident about their girls in the ad. They sent me a magnificent spinner and set the bar high. Beautiful, loved to cuddle and extremely tight. She seemed older than the usual Thai outcall girls. Probably at least 35 but passing for 25. We exchanged Lines and I got her name. I wanted to repeat so weeks later I requested her by name but the she wasn't available. Probably because it was around 3 am. So I figured I'll try any random chick they send in hopes she would be another stunner. Boy was I wrong. This one was ugly, chubby and gave a very weak massage. She asked if I wanted service and I decided maybe I will TRY FS but talked her down in price. So goes to wash up then undresses. With clothes off she looked absolutely horrible. Big pot belly, weird skin coloring, no hips or redeeming qualities. I had to tell her "nevermind" I'll just do HJ. She put clothes back on and gave me a very poor HJ. Took me 20 to finish. Had to close my eyes and imagine one of my favorites was taking care of me.

There must be an embargo on pretty Thais or my luck is shit. Will just stick with my usual outcall place I've been seeing for years. They show pictures and never give me issues.

Hi friends,

First time posting here but I've been mongering for a bit and looking for someone to go to hyugetels with in Seoul.

I understand that sometimes hyugetels don't allow foreigners but I think I'll be able to smooth talk our way into one (if you are a foreigner).

Do be aware though that they might also say no out of their discretion.

My requirements for you:

- hygienic (I don't want to get kicked out).

- polite ( same as above).

- able to pay for your share ( same again + don't want to get beat up LOL).

- in Seoul.

As for myself I speak both fluent English and Korean and am Korean.

DM me and I'll post updates on this forum as well on how things go Cheers.

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Hi,

Can anyone local tell me what's become of this bar?

Every time I pop over to that neighborhood it's always closed.

I was in there the weekend before COVID lockdown was announced early 2020.

I received fantastic GFE service from a slim brown-haired girl I've been hoping to find again.

ISimply the best.

I remember that a COVID breakout had been traced to a bar in the area, wondered if it had been that bar and if they were forced to close?

Any updates appreciated.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2637172]Hi friends,
DM me and I'll post updates on this forum as well on how things go Cheers.[/QUOTE]I am very interested but you need to pay for a membership or to contribute a few more posts to be able to receive DMs.

[QUOTE=EedorYong;2637321]
Club Nymph update?
Can anyone local tell me what's become of this bar?
[/QUOTE]The one in Itaewon? I think there's only one girl there now and she opens after 7 or 8 from what I remember.

If you see the light try pulling the handle she'll probably open if she's not with someone else.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2638225]I am very interested but you need to pay for a membership or to contribute a few more posts to be able to receive DMs.[/QUOTE]Oh I see and my bad! First time posting and did not know that DM's required more of a membership / active status.

Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?

Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2639654]Oh I see and my bad! First time posting and did not know that DM's required more of a membership / active status.

Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?

Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?[/QUOTE]I'd be down to go with you. But not sure how I can contact you. I been a a lurker here for years haha.

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I would be down to go places with you and even pay for your session.

[QUOTE=JeanEspero;2607908]Sorry I have to change my previous opstar comment here in ISG.

I found that opstar has long comments about various places written in Korean when you click on hugi and short thumbs up comments when you click on daetgeul. So you can use translate. [URL]google.com[/URL] I guess.

I am also guessing that foreigners might have a different or sometimes same experience then Koreans who write the comments.

There are too many options to choose from when looking at opstar and it gets overwhelming.[/QUOTE]Hey friend,

I am trying to find more reviews on the places / girls in Seoul and so interested to check this opstar site you are talking about here. What should be my google search keywords here to find that website?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2639654]

Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?

Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?[/QUOTE]What I need is a Korean friend / guide that would help me get in and get serviced by a provider that is young and pretty.

Because it's impossible even with the knowledge to access most places without a Korean vouching for us.

[QUOTE=Ready81;2635030]Was in Itaewon at night for the first time in years. Tried to see Candy down at Tiffany Bar, as she is my go-to for a great time GFE. However, she was indisposed and ventured up the hill. Most of the old places are boarded up or already had new modern Korean-centric bars going. However, up the right side next to Evergreen I saw a girl with tits bigger than my head standing in the door near the top of the hill.

Recognized her as Cherrie, a slightly plump lady with enormous jugs who I had sampled many times in years past. Worked out a BBBJ and asked her to go upstairs instead of her room across the street. She is a damn pro, as can be expected, but I felt proud that I held out for about 10-12 minutes of sloppy wet BJ action with her self-initiating lots of ball-licking, rimming, and titfucking action in that short time. Pulled out and finished all over those giant juggs of her and she was decent enough to clean me up orally. The tits alone are worth it, and she has a friendly personality and eager to please. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get her to double team ya with Candy. Damn. I think I need to make another trip up there before Christmas.[/QUOTE]Cherry's been around for many years now- probably at least 10, maybe more. I've wrote about previous experiences a few years back. When she started working there first, she wasn't fat and had big tits and nice face, but not so much now.

Bean started working there in 2005 or 2006, the first time I met her. Last time I was there in December 2019, she started putting weight on and hadn't triimmed up, so it was a bit of a turn off. Kay still provided great GFE and has huge tits, so I'm looking forward to seeing her again.

Just about every girl on the hill has been there at least ten years. Occasionally a new one may stumble in, but the turf's protected and competition 'stiff', so they don't stay long.

I'll be there in April, so hoping there won't be any lockdown restrictions or silliness. Do the girls wear masks all the time now? It's that way here in the States, so it's also a bit of a turn off, but tolerable.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2637172]Hi friends,

First time posting here but I've been mongering for a bit and looking for someone to go to hyugetels with in Seoul.

I understand that sometimes hyugetels don't allow foreigners but I think I'll be able to smooth talk our way into one (if you are a foreigner).

Do be aware though that they might also say no out of their discretion.

My requirements for you:

- hygienic (I don't want to get kicked out).

- polite ( same as above).

- able to pay for your share ( same again + don't want to get beat up LOL).

- in Seoul.

As for myself I speak both fluent English and Korean and am Korean.

DM me and I'll post updates on this forum as well on how things go Cheers.[/QUOTE]Would be great if I could come along with you to a couple of specific hyugetels that I have been wanting to go to.

I definitely check off all your requirements. Let's meet up sometime?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2640693]Would be great if I could come along with you to a couple of specific hyugetels that I have been wanting to go to.

I definitely check off all your requirements. Let's meet up sometime?[/QUOTE]Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?

But I don't think he's going to come back.

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[QUOTE=RafiXo;2640336]Hey friend,

I am trying to find more reviews on the places / girls in Seoul and so interested to check this opstar site you are talking about here. What should be my google search keywords here to find that website?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's now.

[URL]https://opgani6.com/[/URL] If it doesn't work the change the number 6 to 7 and so on. Use Chrome to translate the page and make an account.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2641335]It's now.

[URL]https://opgani6.com/[/URL] If it doesn't work the change the number 6 to 7 and so on. Use Chrome to translate the page and make an account.[/QUOTE]Do they take Asian foreigners?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2641955]Do they take Asian foreigners?[/QUOTE]That site is just an a place for advertisements. Each establishment / business (if you want to call it that.) is different. You'll need to talk to them (phone call) and if you don't sound native they'll probably ask you about it and may ask the girl if she will see you. My advice would be just be upfront and ask or you may end up getting denied at the last minute.

Hi there!

It's a shame that I can't find a way to communicate with other members here / meet up as I don't have a membership and a lot of members here don't either. And to my understanding both parties need a membership to message?

If anyone has a suggestion or any idea, please do let me know.

In other news, I've been slowly writing up a guide on the different types of services offered so will post that soon!

And to answer some previous comments:

"Do they take Asian foreigners?" - They most likely will not unless you speak fluent Korean. But even if, you might need another Korean to vouch for you.

"Op sites" - These sites change very frequently and are all in Korean. You will need to create an account and call with a cell phone number (no vpn / hidden numbers, phone booth, etc). Another great site is bamtteok1.

"Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?" - And we actually get a slight discount if we go together with friends and its not as uncommon as you might think haha.

If you guys have any further questions on the scene, feel free to ask away and will reply when I have time.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2642943]Hi there!

It's a shame that I can't find a way to communicate with other members here / meet up as I don't have a membership and a lot of members here don't either. And to my understanding both parties need a membership to message?

If anyone has a suggestion or any idea, please do let me know.

In other news, I've been slowly writing up a guide on the different types of services offered so will post that soon!

And to answer some previous comments:

"Do they take Asian foreigners?" - They most likely will not unless you speak fluent Korean. But even if, you might need another Korean to vouch for you.

"Op sites" - These sites change very frequently and are all in Korean. You will need to create an account and call with a cell phone number (no vpn / hidden numbers, phone booth, etc). Another great site is bamtteok1.

"Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?" - And we actually get a slight discount if we go together with friends and its not as uncommon as you might think haha.

If you guys have any further questions on the scene, feel free to ask away and will reply when I have time.[/QUOTE]No shame to join as a member and enjoy DM access. I don't believe ISG is a non-profit organization. Even if it was, non-profits rely on contributions and or government funding.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2643095]No shame to join as a member and enjoy DM access. I don't believe ISG is a non-profit organization. Even if it was, non-profits rely on contributions and or government funding.[/QUOTE]Exactly and if you really don't want to pay you can share some knowledge until your get to Senior level.

Especially if you have good contacts with establishments.

You might also know more than us about government plans and rumors etc.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2643295]Exactly and if you really don't want to pay you can share some knowledge until your get to Senior level.

Especially if you have good contacts with establishments.

You might also know more than us about government plans and rumors etc.[/QUOTE]Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?

Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).

Massages?

Don't know of any concrete rumors but a lot of establishments recently require QR code as well as a vaccination pass upon entry so to fit with government guidelines.

Do take my guide with a grain of salt though as I am Korean and your mileage may vary depending on how well spoken you are in Korean as well as how much damages you are willing to put down.

First things first here are the necessary requirements for mongering:

1. Valid and active phone number (no hidden numbers, internet, phone booths, etc).

2. Vaccination QR code (government has been cracking down on establishments that do not trace for covid).

3. Ability to speak a decent amount of Korean for making reservations.

Let's break down the establishments (by price).

With higher prices of course comes better quality girls as well as appearances.

Kiss Bang .

Kiss bangs are for making out as well as conversations. Some allow tops to come off with some touching but that's about it.

Your mileage may vary depending on how well you can sweet talk and how strict the establishments are.

DO NOT ASK OR TRY FOR FULL SERVICE HERE. You risk getting kicked out, beat up, and black listed.

Girls: Early 20's, often local college students.

Damages: Around $50 for 30 min.

<Lip Cafe .

Lip cafes are similar to kiss bangs but for blow jobs and usually allow both top / bottom to come off with mutual touching / play depending on the establishment.

A great place to visit if you want a quick release.

Girls: Early 20's and may not be the most attractive but they will definitely be skilled.

Damages: $50 for one shot 15 minutes.

<Kunma / Massages .

Kunma / Massages provide swedish / aroma massages with a happy ending. The happy ending is usually restricted to handjobs but YMMV.

Girls: Girls here are often from foreign countries such as Thailand / Laos / Philippines / Etc. They are probably not the most attractive women in the world. Quality differs largely depending on the establishment.

Damages: $50-$60 for a one hour massage. HJ tips cost an additional $30. BJ tips should be around $50. Full service will be $100.

<Hyugetel.

Hyugetels are establishments that offer full service options at rooms or small apartments. The quality of the rooms / apartments may not be nice at times. Think of it as a place for a quick fuck.

Girls: Girls here range from 20's - 30's. Looks vary depending on the location and are also often from foreign countries. Women here are below the OP standard of looks for sure though there are quite a few who are very attractive.

Damages: Starting at $80 for a one shot 30 minute course. Two shot / unlimited shot options are also available as well as no condom and anal options. Stocking and dildo services are available as well.

<Anma.

Anma's are massage parlors similar to kunma's but higher in quality of massages, service, and girls.

Full service options are provided here as well as amazing GFE. These girls will make you feel like you're in a japanese adult video. Yes, this also does mean that some provide nuru massages / soap massages, etc.

A lot of these are themed to be clubs or spas where you can pick your girls.

These establishments may also require additional proof of verification to ensure that you are not the police / blacklisted / can be trusted.

Girls: Girls here are usually top of the 1% in terms of looks and quality. La creme de la creme.

Damages: $200 for a one shot hour course. With additional costs for longer sessions, more shots, no condoms, anal, stocking, threesome, etc.

<Officietels (OPs) .

OP's are small but nice luxury offices / apartments rented out for full services options.

These establishments may also require additional proof of verification to ensure that you are not the police / blacklisted / can be trusted.

Girls: Girls here are also the top 1% in terms of looks. For OP's I have found that there are more American / European girl options as well. These ladies are all QUALITY in terms of. Well. Everything.

Damages: With quality comes price, and damages range around $200 for a one shot hour course. With additional costs for longer sessions, more shots, no condoms, anal, stocking, threesome, etc.

<FAQs .

"What's the difference between Anma and OP then?" - Main difference is that Anma provides a sexual massage and play while OP is more focused on sex.

"What do you mean by 1% looks for Anma / OP girls?" - I mean that they are often models / rising celebrities status gorgeous with the skills to match. 11/10.

"How do I find these establishemnts?" - Online. Sites such as bamtteok / opggani / opstar.

"Do they accept foreigners" - Most likely no, but if you have a buddy that speaks korean then possibly yes.

"I'm worried about COVID, are these places safe?" - Depends on the establishment but a lot of places now offer rapid corona testing kits, sanitize their facilities multiple times a day, and monitor temperature.

Hope this guide provided a quick update on the status of mongering in Korea.

Feel free to ask any questions as well and I'll try to get back to you all ASAP.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2643802]Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?

Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).

Massages?

Don't know of any concrete rumors but a lot of establishments recently require QR code as well as a vaccination pass upon entry so to fit with government guidelines.[/QUOTE]I am preparing for my first trip and not interested to visit any RDL. Doing internet search and reading articles I found only below sites which cater to foreigners. Not sure if anyone here has any experience with any of them. So far it seems it is quite hard to monger here as a foreigner.

[URL]https://modelineseoul.wixsite.com/beautygirlsinseoul/strip-salon[/URL]

[URL]http://www.seoulescort8.com/strip-salon.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.luxseoulescorts1.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoul[/URL]

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2643802]Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?

Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).

Massages?

Don't know of any concrete rumors but a lot of establishments recently require QR code as well as a vaccination pass upon entry so to fit with government guidelines.[/QUOTE]Have you gone to Yengdp red light any info updates?

[QUOTE=OralSea;2641335]It's now.

[URL]https://opgani6.com/[/URL] If it doesn't work the change the number 6 to 7 and so on. Use Chrome to translate the page and make an account.[/QUOTE]Ty, I lost track of the link changes a while back! How do you know when they change the url format (e. G. From opstar to opgani to whatever is next)?

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2644104]Ty, I lost track of the link changes a while back! How do you know when they change the url format (e. G. From opstar to opgani to whatever is next)?[/QUOTE]You really can't know until you check and the site is down, just do a simple google search of the site once again as stated before or add an extra number to the end. For example if it was opstar1, next site will most likely be opstar2 or opstar3.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2643877]Have you gone to Yengdp red light any info updates?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I'm not very familiar with RLDs in Korea. Ever since the pandemic though I've heard that most are being shutdown from lack of business or moved out as a part of gentrification or the government's clean up.

Most mongering info and establishments in Korea have actually moved online to the sites mentioned before.

It's just much safer and more low key for both the establishments and customers involved.

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2643859]I am preparing for my first trip and not interested to visit any RDL. Doing internet search and reading articles I found only below sites which cater to foreigners. Not sure if anyone here has any experience with any of them. So far it seems it is quite hard to monger here as a foreigner.

[URL]https://modelineseoul.wixsite.com/beautygirlsinseoul/strip-salon[/URL]

[URL]http://www.seoulescort8.com/strip-salon.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.luxseoulescorts1.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoul[/URL][/QUOTE]Cannot vouch for any of these sites except massage republic (do check the reviews and the accounts that wrote the reviews to confirm that they are somewhat legit).

As for the other escort service providers, you will sadly be paying a premium.

I never realized until now but beginning to understand that mongering for foreigners in Korea is very tough compared to other countries.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2643802]Out of curiosity, what has everyone's experience been with mongering in Korea?

Is it mostly RDL in Itaewon? (Which is nearly dead).
Massages?
[/QUOTE]RLD, thai massage, kunma, OP with Russian, Lip. No anma or room salon.

Tried but couldn't get in.

Honestly I just want to become a regular at a good Lip place LOL.

[QUOTE=RafiXo;2643859]I am preparing for my first trip and not interested to visit any RDL. Doing internet search and reading articles I found only below sites which cater to foreigners. Not sure if anyone here has any experience with any of them. So far it seems it is quite hard to monger here as a foreigner.
[/QUOTE]I wouldn't get my hopes up for any of those options.

Fake pictures and way overpriced.

If you just want to do it for posterity then go ahead but you've been warned.

What's hooker hill like now that there's a 9 pm curfew? Where's the best place for street meat?

I'd be willing to go early.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2643852]Do take my guide with a grain of salt though as I am Korean and your mileage may vary depending on how well spoken you are in Korean as well as how much damages you are willing to put down.

First things first here are the necessary requirements for mongering:

1. Valid and active phone number (no hidden numbers, internet, phone booths, etc).

2. Vaccination QR code (government has been cracking down on establishments that do not trace for covid).

3. Ability to speak a decent amount of Korean for making reservations.

Let's break down the establishments (by price)..[/QUOTE]Good guide. There is also one similar on Reddit.

I find the best places to go are room salons (KTV), kiss bangs, officetel and an ma.

But it's pretty much most of it is off limits to foreigners. If you don't look Asian and speak Korean. Your experience will be very poor in Ymmv sense.

I had made friends in Korea and they bought to room salons and the girls were insanely hot. They vouched me for some officetel ad well.

The key to mongering in Korea is find a Korean native or local, willing to help you in exchange for money or friendship.

Otherwise your just stuck with sub par girls from rdl and kiss bangs places.

Speaking Korean helps a lot especially if your a foreigner. Bonus if your Asian looking. But some officetel or an ma.

Won't take you no matter what.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2644305]RLD, thai massage, kunma, OP with Russian, Lip. No anma or room salon.

Tried but couldn't get in.

Honestly I just want to become a regular at a good Lip place LOL.[/QUOTE]There is a few near gangnam station and jamsil.

Station. I go quite a lot and offer 50,000- 100,000 for full BBFS, most.

Of the girls take it LOL.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2644625]There is a few near gangnam station and jamsil.

Station. I go quite a lot and offer 50,000- 100,000 for full BBFS, most.

Of the girls take it LOL.[/QUOTE]50 to 100 k on top of the massage fee?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2643852]Do take my guide with a grain of salt though as I am Korean and your mileage may vary depending on how well spoken you are in Korean as well as how much damages you are willing to put down.

First things first here are the necessary requirements for mongering:

1. Valid and active phone number (no hidden numbers, internet, phone booths, etc).

2. Vaccination QR code (government has been cracking down on establishments that do not trace for covid).

[/QUOTE]I've been pretty consistently going to gunma / massage places throughout the past 2 years and I've never QR coded at any of them. Sometimes the "legit" looking thai places will want you to write down your info on a log, but you can easily write a fake number or whatever if you're worried. However, as he stated above, without a phone number you can't contact anyone off opgani or any of the other sites, so that is for sure essential.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2644694]50 to 100 k on top of the massage fee?[/QUOTE]Yeah on top of the fee. Don't get much massages in kiss bangs. Just fondling, kissing and sex.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2644890]Yeah on top of the fee. Don't get much massages in kiss bangs. Just fondling, kissing and sex.[/QUOTE]I see.

Since kiss bangs are generally college aged girls and located around universities, are most customers under 30 or do older korean men also go there?? Just wondering if that type of sex business only caters to young guys? Thanks.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2644624]Good guide. There is also one similar on Reddit.

I find the best places to go are room salons (KTV), kiss bangs, officetel and an ma.

But it's pretty much most of it is off limits to foreigners. If you don't look Asian and speak Korean. Your experience will be very poor in Ymmv sense.

I had made friends in Korea and they bought to room salons and the girls were insanely hot. They vouched me for some officetel ad well.

The key to mongering in Korea is find a Korean native or local, willing to help you in exchange for money or friendship.

Otherwise your just stuck with sub par girls from rdl and kiss bangs places.

Speaking Korean helps a lot especially if your a foreigner. Bonus if your Asian looking. But some officetel or an ma.

Won't take you no matter what.[/QUOTE]Wish I could message you brother so we could go mongering in 2022!

I do fell that that gangnam is THE SPOT to be for "mongering online" as that's where most finance businesses are located anyway.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2644989]I see.

Since kiss bangs are generally college aged girls and located around universities, are most customers under 30 or do older korean men also go there?? Just wondering if that type of sex business only caters to young guys? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Customers will range anywhere from 20's - 60's there's really no set age limit. The business does not cater to just younger guys. Anyone one with money is open for business.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2644625]There is a few near gangnam station and jamsil.

Station. I go quite a lot and offer 50,000- 100,000 for full BBFS, most.

Of the girls take it LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh wow 50,000 seems to be on the extreme low balling range for BBFS. Good for you for finding out such a spot and smooth talking your way through.

Actually personally not a fan of bb due to health concerns but to each its own!

Wishing everyone a wonderful 2022 and may you all be blessed with the best services available!

What type of establishments / fantasy are you guys hoping to make come true in 2022?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2641955]Do they take Asian foreigners?[/QUOTE]Some do, I just send them a text and ask them.

Ventured out late last night to check it out. Was called into a shop by a big tittied girl named Candy. Wanted 200 for BBFS lasting 20 minutes and 1 shot. Yea didn't go for it bought her a drink for 30 just to talk asked her if she really gets that. She said that's what everyone has agreed to charge. Asked her if she had any takers and she said 1 the whole night. Fucking way over priced.

[QUOTE=OralSea;2645707]Some do, I just send them a text and ask them.[/QUOTE]Are the girls local Koreans.

Though?

Or are they the Russians, Thai ones?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2645287]Wish I could message you brother so we could go mongering in 2022!

I do fell that that gangnam is THE SPOT to be for "mongering online" as that's where most finance businesses are located anyway.[/QUOTE]If you're serious about and you're a frequent monger. I'll send the $25 btc each to the admin to activate our accounts for dm.

I'm a Korean sex addict, not going to lie LOL.

I love Korean girls. It is my hobby to have sex with new ones every day.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2645958]If you're serious about and you're a frequent monger. I'll send the $25 btc each to the admin to activate our accounts for dm.

I'm a Korean sex addict, not going to lie LOL.

I love Korean girls. It is my hobby to have sex with new ones every day.[/QUOTE]Problem is banging a regular Korean girl not in the sex industry. A lot are lame in bed. Just lying there and moaning LOL. No passion.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2645290]Oh wow 50,000 seems to be on the extreme low balling range for BBFS. Good for you for finding out such a spot and smooth talking your way through.

Actually personally not a fan of bb due to health concerns but to each its own![/QUOTE]50-70 k is the going rate at RLDs if you look and speak like a local. Miari goes for as low as 30-40 k during the day if you're a local, one of my regular mamasans told me this but wouldn't give me a discount past 60 k daytime and 70-80 k night time.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2645787]Ventured out late last night to check it out. Was called into a shop by a big tittied girl named Candy. Wanted 200 for BBFS lasting 20 minutes and 1 shot. Yea didn't go for it bought her a drink for 30 just to talk asked her if she really gets that. She said that's what everyone has agreed to charge. Asked her if she had any takers and she said 1 the whole night. Fucking way over priced.[/QUOTE]Definitely not worth it, fuck that! I think in conclusion its safe to say that that Itaewon RDL is dead?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2645958]If you're serious about and you're a frequent monger. I'll send the $25 btc each to the admin to activate our accounts for dm.

I'm a Korean sex addict, not going to lie LOL.

I love Korean girls. It is my hobby to have sex with new ones every day.[/QUOTE]Hey brother! I'm actually really close to hitting 30 posts which would make me a senior member I believe! Now its up to you to get your posts up as well haha and we'll be able to DM one another.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2646066]Problem is banging a regular Korean girl not in the sex industry. A lot are lame in bed. Just lying there and moaning LOL. No passion.[/QUOTE]I've had amazing luck with tinder / bumble and just being honest with my intentions! Though the match rate is low, those that do match we usually end up on a fun date or two.

But I do agree though that a lot of korean korean girls will just lie down like a dead fish and not move so I just take the initiative to toss them and position them around myself.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2646130]50-70 k is the going rate at RLDs if you look and speak like a local. Miari goes for as low as 30-40 k during the day if you're a local, one of my regular mamasans told me this but wouldn't give me a discount past 60 k daytime and 70-80 k night time.[/QUOTE]Oooh gotcha, thanks for this piece of information. Knowledge is power my friend.

I guess its the same for establishments that advertise mongering online, weekdays / in the mornings tend to be a bit cheaper or have more discount options.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2645787]Ventured out late last night to check it out. Was called into a shop by a big tittied girl named Candy. Wanted 200 for BBFS lasting 20 minutes and 1 shot. Yea didn't go for it bought her a drink for 30 just to talk asked her if she really gets that. She said that's what everyone has agreed to charge. Asked her if she had any takers and she said 1 the whole night. Fucking way over priced.[/QUOTE]LOL heard the same line when one of the providers said BJs were at least 100 and "everyone" agreed to charge that.

Got one for 60 next door. That was last year— well 2020 actually.

I honestly don't understand The Hill. I'd love to screw Bean in the ass though haha.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2646211]I've had amazing luck with tinder / bumble and just being honest with my intentions! Though the match rate is low, those that do match we usually end up on a fun date or two.
[/QUOTE]Same on Tinder but it's too much effort. Craigslist was okay until they started taking down posts like lightning.

Seeking Arrangement is filled with (way too) overpriced ordinary girls.

Slide in those DMs when you can LOL.

On these OP sites, is there anywhere I can find a basic guide for terminology? I can speak / read normal Korean, but all these specific terms and abbreviations and stuff might as well be a completely different language.

Had some free time yesterday before dinner and went online to look for a hyugetel in Gangnam.

Getting There:

Called and set an appointment to see a girl for a 70 minute two shot course. Since it was my first time visiting this establishment, I had to verify by sending a photo of my business card.

Confirmed within minutes then was given the address and told to call once I arrived.

Arrived at the location and called and was given a room number at a officetel for me to enter.

Service:

Came to see "Bori" a 28 years old gorgeous thai girl with a petite frame and massive the cups (plastic surgery).

She greeted me with a warm smile and gave me some water / juice as we both got undressed.

Did some small talk then we got undressed and she took me into her shower.

We both brushed our teeth and after she washed me thoroughly in the shower.

She then used mouthwash to cleanse herself once again and then promptly gave me a blow job for a minty and refreshing oral.

Went to to the bed where she massaged my balls and cock for a few minutes before she gave me a BJ.

I was on top for the first shot where I pounded her in missionary before I finished. She was surprisingly very tight and her reactions were great as well.

She washed me up with a wet towel and in the down time I played and teased her tits / pussy some more before getting hard and going for round 2.

This time she was on top and rode me nice and hard until I finished once again.

She washed me up once again with a wet towel then cleaned me in the shower before we said good bye.

Conclusion:

Service was not rushed at all with a lot of GFE. Was a little nervous going to a new establishment but overall she made me feel comfortable and would come again.

She was enthusiastic and friendly and made sure to make me feel comfortable as well. Very playful and teasing as well.

I asked if her establishment took foreigners but her boss did not allow it but she did tell me that other hyugetels nearby did.

Damages were 14 manwon for 2 shot. I got a manwon discount since it was my first time visiting.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2646914]On these OP sites, is there anywhere I can find a basic guide for terminology? I can speak / read normal Korean, but all these specific terms and abbreviations and stuff might as well be a completely different language.[/QUOTE]Hmm would it be possible for you to copy and paste to this forum so I can translate for you?

Some common terms and abbreviations:

ㅇ12609; - kissing.

ㅂ12616;- pussy.

ㅇ12601;- oral.

장 - means an amount of paper, which in slang means cash. So 15장 would be 15 manwon.

핸54540; - handjob.

샷 - shot, means cumming. 2샷 course would mean a course where you can cum twice.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2647004]Had some free time yesterday before dinner and went online to look for a hyugetel in Gangnam.

Getting There:

Called and set an appointment to see a girl for a 70 minute two shot course. Since it was my first time visiting this establishment, I had to verify by sending a photo of my business card.

Confirmed within minutes then was given the address and told to call once I arrived.

Arrived at the location and called and was given a room number at a officetel for me to enter.

Service:

Came to see "Bori" a 28 years old gorgeous thai girl with a petite frame and massive the cups (plastic surgery).

She greeted me with a warm smile and gave me some water / juice as we both got undressed.

Did some small talk then we got undressed and she took me into her shower.

We both brushed our teeth and after she washed me thoroughly in the shower.[/QUOTE]Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647182]Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.[/QUOTE]Do you mean too many messages back and forth before she accepted your offer?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2646130]50-70 k is the going rate at RLDs if you look and speak like a local. Miari goes for as low as 30-40 k during the day if you're a local, one of my regular mamasans told me this but wouldn't give me a discount past 60 k daytime and 70-80 k night time.[/QUOTE]I have always wondered about Mari and what time they open during the day.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2646696]LOL heard the same line when one of the providers said BJs were at least 100 and "everyone" agreed to charge that.

Got one for 60 next door. That was last year well 2020 actually.

I honestly don't understand The Hill. I'd love to screw Bean in the ass though haha.[/QUOTE]It just seems like they are used to drunk Americans thinking to much with their dicks. Hell if she was super hot "maybe" but chubby and not to friendly. Nope.

Hmm a BJ for 60. Covered or raw?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647182]Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.[/QUOTE]Who are these girls on Instagram? Working girls or just models?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647182]Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.[/QUOTE]Who are these girls are Instagram? Working girls or models?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2647301]Do you mean too many messages back and forth before she accepted your offer?[/QUOTE]Right and also like they don't respond right away. Some don't even respond at all.

Obviously. But once I get their kakao, they are more comfortable to talk. Most of.

Them that reply back, I suspect they work at a room salon or something.

One girl I msged, accepted my 500,000 offer with 200,000 for sec with no condom after a bit of taking.

The long part is also gaming them and taking them to dinner etc. Some you do get lucky.

I found that if you look for the girls in city like Daegu or Ilsan, are more likely to respond and meet. But take longer to set up.

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[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647182]Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.[/QUOTE]How do you find them on insta?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647509]Right and also like they don't respond right away. Some don't even respond at all.

Obviously. But once I get their kakao, they are more comfortable to talk. Most of.

Them that reply back, I suspect they work at a room salon or something.

One girl I msged, accepted my 500,000 offer with 200,000 for sec with no condom after a bit of taking.

The long part is also gaming them and taking them to dinner etc. Some you do get lucky.

I found that if you look for the girls in city like Daegu or Ilsan, are more likely to respond and meet. But take longer to set up.

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Please do not post text with unnecessary hard returns in the Forum. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/QUOTE]What? You had to still try and convince her to meet even after offering 700000 won?? Lmfao what a joke.

Secondly. Why are you offering crazy prices?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2647691]What? You had to still try and convince her to meet even after offering 700000 won?? Lmfao what a joke.

Secondly. Why are you offering crazy prices?[/QUOTE]Yeah some take convincing especially if they are far away. If you low ball, they aren't going to be to impressed. So if I offer them more money as a way of paying for their taxi rides, certain requests (no condom) and they are more inclined to meet and also give them the idea of future sponsorship. To that end, the more you are generous (rich in sense), good pics on Instagram, better responses and better luck. You definitely don't want to offer an ma prices to them LOL. Is it economical. Of course not. It just another method of f'ing. You can definitely get the same type of girls in officetel with better pricing or go to clubs and Pick girls up. But some of the Instagram girls are really hot. If I can DM one day, I can show you some messages and pics. Also using location and popular places to find some girls LOL. Note to admin. Sorry I'm trying to format my posts because if I continuously type, it seem like to was going all the way to the left of the screen into one major sentence before it "return" I was trying to organize my sentences into section. Right now I just wrote without hitting return once, hope that works better.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2647578]How do you find them on insta?[/QUOTE]If you search by location in Instagram, type popular clubs, locations and malls, you can find a lot. Start several liking their pics and see if they like back. Once they do, follow them and send a friendly message. You want to find girls with less followers, not those influencers kinds. Under 2000 followers (more or less) worked best for me.

Once you follow enough, Instagram will inherently suggest the similar girls. You also check their followings and follow those. If they follow a lot of guys, it's a good sign. As the algorithm builds on your account, you will get more similar girls. It's a lot of work, it's easier just go to officetel or an ma and get it over with, especially if you're not very good looking or on a budget. But if you have time and don't mind chatting with some girls then sure.

I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?

Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.

I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647182]Sounds good! Any CIP option? I DM some girls on Instagram and met up with one, took her to a motel in Gangnam and did the deed but way to much work.[/QUOTE]Hey brother!

They do have CIP options but do not take foreigners: see They also have stocking service for free.

These girls were Thai but gorgeous 8 or 9/10. Wish I could upload photos here but not sure if that is allowed?

And oh wow that takes some serious skill and effort! Kudos to you for pulling it off.

Let's hit 30 posts so we can DM!

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2647691]What? You had to still try and convince her to meet even after offering 700000 won?? Lmfao what a joke.

Secondly. Why are you offering crazy prices?[/QUOTE]500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647773]If you search by location in Instagram, type popular clubs, locations and malls, you can find a lot. Start several liking their pics and see if they like back. Once they do, follow them and send a friendly message. You want to find girls with less followers, not those influencers kinds. Under 2000 followers (more or less) worked best for me.

Once you follow enough, Instagram will inherently suggest the similar girls. You also check their followings and follow those. If they follow a lot of guys, it's a good sign. As the algorithm builds on your account, you will get more similar girls. It's a lot of work, it's easier just go to officetel or an ma and get it over with, especially if you're not very good looking or on a budget. But if you have time and don't mind chatting with some girls then sure.[/QUOTE]Interesting! I tried this on a small group but wasn't getting any hits. I was using a blank-ish account and not flaunting assets.

Thanks for the tips.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2647004]Had some free time yesterday before dinner and went online to look for a hyugetel in Gangnam.

Getting There:

Called and set an appointment to see a girl for a 70 minute two shot course. Since it was my first time visiting this establishment, I had to verify by sending a photo of my business card.

Confirmed within minutes then was given the address and told to call once I arrived.

Arrived at the location and called and was given a room number at a officetel for me to enter.

Service:

Came to see "Bori" a 28 years old gorgeous thai girl with a petite frame and massive the cups (plastic surgery).

She greeted me with a warm smile and gave me some water / juice as we both got undressed.

Did some small talk then we got undressed and she took me into her shower.

We both brushed our teeth and after she washed me thoroughly in the shower.

She then used mouthwash to cleanse herself once again and then promptly gave me a blow job for a minty and refreshing oral.[/QUOTE]Bro,

Nice report. Waiting for you get your PM setup.

Do let me know which hyugetels in Seoul accept foreigners. Waiting to visit those places ASAP.

[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2647804]I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?

Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.

I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The key phrase "take pic of hotel key" means they are often just an agency. The person you're chatting with is usually a guy, and basically once he talks you up and you send him the picture. He will call one of the girls and meet you.

Ask them this: oh what I don't like you? Or you don't look the same in real life. If they answer something like "oh I'm confident you will like me or like oh just pay for my taxi then" and then you will know for sure they are most likely An agency LOL. Tons of them the massage rep site!

[QUOTE=DaveC8201;2647904]500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah LOL I was so super horny. This one in particular I offered 500 k, asking for a date (I straight up just and be transparent sometimes unless you want to try to game) and go back to watch a movie at a motel. She said yeah to it. I then ask her if it is okay we make love / get intimate as well? Then she said stuff like oh I've never been with a foreigner and I don't have sex that much or like sex? Something like that my Korean isn't the best. So I offered her 200 k for a total 700 k (which included her fare to Gangnam). She just said ok LOL. Met her and went to some boutique hotel in samseong for 40 usd around. Did the deedx2 cip, Then went to eat.

[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2647804]I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?

Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.

I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah bro I forgot to add. Don't bother with tinder if you decide to, you will get tons of these girls who put their Instagram handles on the profile. Some are agency but the majority of that is they just want extra followers and every horny guy follows and likes. Don't bother with it!

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2647770]Yeah some take convincing especially if they are far away. If you low ball, they aren't going to be to impressed. So if I offer them more money as a way of paying for their taxi rides, certain requests (no condom) and they are more inclined to meet and also give them the idea of future sponsorship. To that end, the more you are generous (rich in sense), good pics on Instagram, better responses and better luck. You definitely don't want to offer an ma prices to them LOL. Is it economical. Of course not. It just another method of f'ing. You can definitely get the same type of girls in officetel with better pricing or go to clubs and Pick girls up. But some of the Instagram girls are really hot. If I can DM one day, I can show you some messages and pics. Also using location and popular places to find some girls LOL. Note to admin. Sorry I'm trying to format my posts because if I continuously type, it seem like to was going all the way to the left of the screen into one major sentence before it "return" I was trying to organize my sentences into section. Right now I just wrote without hitting return once, hope that works better.[/QUOTE]To each his own. But offering prices like 700 k change the market somewhat and even average looking girls start charging 300 k thinking they are worth it.

No matter how cute they try and make their selfies and messaging, its a risk to pay that much for less than a industry pro Korean girls think by just looking the cutest or sexiest as possible with their luxury bag deserves high asking price. Most are likely dead fish in bed moaning like japanese porn stars LOL.

Its weird. You don't mind spending potentially 700 k on a girl who gets dolled up without guarantee of their bed skills but you don't want to spend 25000 won on a membership?

[QUOTE=DaveC8201;2647904]500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.[/QUOTE]Ask the guy who offered that in the other post LOL. It was me that's for sure!

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648162]To each his own. But offering prices like 700 k change the market somewhat and even average looking girls start charging 300 k thinking they are worth it.

No matter how cute they try and make their selfies and messaging, its a risk to pay that much for less than a industry pro Korean girls think by just looking the cutest or sexiest as possible with their luxury bag deserves high asking price. Most are likely dead fish in bed moaning like japanese porn stars LOL.

Its weird. You don't mind spending potentially 700 k on a girl who gets dolled up without guarantee of their bed skills but you don't want to spend 25000 won on a membership?[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. Well most of them are absolutely dead in bed unless they worked in a sex shop before LOL. But one thing for I notice, ugly girls provide the better service LOL. In terms of 700 k, you'd be surprised how much people offer out there. I don't just blindly offer that much money. There is somewhat negotiation involved but I don't want to get into it, maybe later when I get a chance to really dissect it. It's really quite normal at least for me and to a lot of my friend who do the same thing. Some say it's normal, some say are simps. In terms of bed skills, I don't mind it too much because I know if I need a good f**k I just go to an ma. It's the girls that you can't f**k normally or at least the feeling of that us what is exciting. Actually I don't even mind paying for the membership, I even offered takoyaki I'd pay both of our memberships. But instead I guess we will try to hit 30 posts. This would be a better option as I don't have a Coinbase account and don't want to do the know your customer setup LOL. But if they accepted credit card as is, I would sign up immediate and pay for takoyaki. Admin can message me directly for my details.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2647981]Bro,

Nice report. Waiting for you get your PM setup.

Do let me know which hyugetels in Seoul accept foreigners. Waiting to visit those places ASAP.[/QUOTE]Will do! And I would need to venture a bit first to a few more hyugetels to figure out which ones accept foreigners.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648085]Yeah LOL I was so super horny. This one in particular I offered 500 k, asking for a date (I straight up just and be transparent sometimes unless you want to try to game) and go back to watch a movie at a motel. She said yeah to it. I then ask her if it is okay we make love / get intimate as well? Then she said stuff like oh I've never been with a foreigner and I don't have sex that much or like sex? Something like that my Korean isn't the best. So I offered her 200 k for a total 700 k (which included her fare to Gangnam). She just said ok LOL. Met her and went to some boutique hotel in samseong for 40 usd around. Did the deedx2 cip, Then went to eat.[/QUOTE]Damn man with 500 k you could have a threesome with gorgeous S class models in Seoul raw, and CIP / CIM. With 700 k you could do all that and more!

Thanks for your luxury report and insight into IG mongering / hustling.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648162]To each his own. But offering prices like 700 k change the market somewhat and even average looking girls start charging 300 k thinking they are worth it.

No matter how cute they try and make their selfies and messaging, its a risk to pay that much for less than a industry pro Korean girls think by just looking the cutest or sexiest as possible with their luxury bag deserves high asking price. Most are likely dead fish in bed moaning like japanese porn stars LOL.

Its weird. You don't mind spending potentially 700 k on a girl who gets dolled up without guarantee of their bed skills but you don't want to spend 25000 won on a membership?[/QUOTE]To each its own! I'm sure there's a thrill in convincing the other partner too which makes it extra fun. Or maybe even a fun challenge.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648192]I know what you mean. Well most of them are absolutely dead in bed unless they worked in a sex shop before LOL. But one thing for I notice, ugly girls provide the better service LOL. In terms of 700 k, you'd be surprised how much people offer out there. I don't just blindly offer that much money. There is somewhat negotiation involved but I don't want to get into it, maybe later when I get a chance to really dissect it. It's really quite normal at least for me and to a lot of my friend who do the same thing. Some say it's normal, some say are simps. In terms of bed skills, I don't mind it too much because I know if I need a good f**k I just go to an ma. It's the girls that you can't f**k normally or at least the feeling of that us what is exciting. Actually I don't even mind paying for the membership, I even offered takoyaki I'd pay both of our memberships. But instead I guess we will try to hit 30 posts. This would be a better option as I don't have a Coinbase account and don't want to do the know your customer setup LOL. But if they accepted credit card as is, I would sign up immediate and pay for takoyaki. Admin can message me directly for my details.[/QUOTE]I was offered entry into one of the Anmas in Gangnam for a fee of 300 k. I wasn't sure of what I would get inside and hence didn't opt for it. If the quality and the experience is good, then I definitely don't mind paying up. Which anma is top of the line quality and accepts foreigners and what should I be paying for 2 shots?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2648338]I was offered entry into one of the Anmas in Gangnam for a fee of 300 k. I wasn't sure of what I would get inside and hence didn't opt for it. If the quality and the experience is good, then I definitely don't mind paying up. Which anma is top of the line quality and accepts foreigners and what should I be paying for 2 shots?[/QUOTE]Seems like they charged you a bit more. It's usually like 280 k for 2 shots and 240 k or 1 shot. I usually go to Gain Anma and goldfish / dream anma near gangnam station. And club anma in Samseong. There are other like king, castle and donuts but have been since 2018. They might be closed now.

Usually the mamasan or receptions will ask you what type of girl you want. Big boobs, cute face etc. But service should be quite good. Massage + sex or two shot might include, small massage, sex then nuru massage then sex. Depends! Which one did you go!

[QUOTE=DaveC8201;2647904]500 K? And 200 K more? Was she super hot? Did you pay for dinner too? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648429]Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.[/QUOTE]Just watch a porn for 5 minutes. Save 700)).

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648163]Ask the guy who offered that in the other post LOL. It was me that's for sure![/QUOTE]*WASNT me.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648493]Just watch a porn for 5 minutes. Save 700.[/QUOTE]Sound advice! I'll keep that in mind and get new pair of shoes instead.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648416]Seems like they charged you a bit more. It's usually like 280 k for 2 shots and 240 k or 1 shot. I usually go to Gain Anma and goldfish / dream anma near gangnam station. And club anma in Samseong. There are other like king, castle and donuts but have been since 2018. They might be closed now.

Usually the mamasan or receptions will ask you what type of girl you want. Big boobs, cute face etc. But service should be quite good. Massage + sex or two shot might include, small massage, sex then nuru massage then sex. Depends! Which one did you go![/QUOTE]I was offered entry at Gold Superman near Gangnam and also at Lyra (erstwhile Castle) near SeoulLeung. Both offered 300 k for one shot. Is it OK to negotiate or is it a 'take it or leave it' model and it's not considered polite to negotiate?

I am looking for the address of Gain. Heard from folks that it's top quality. Once you get your PM, do PM me the location of Gain.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648429]Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.[/QUOTE]Korean Airline. Must be a flight attendant. Those girls are hot! Every time I fly Korean Airline, I get an erection. Wouldn't mind be a part of the mile high club!

There is definitely some Korean hottie on IG! Did she show a lot of skin in her IG pix?

Hey guys,

I got some good news today I went to gain anma as I was in gangnam station and the reception told they are now accepting foreigners especially from Singapore or countries with LTV. The best time she told me to come is when it's not busy which is between 1-2 pm when everyone is in break. There closed rooms at this time as well. She also told me bring all my friends next time so definitely looking forward to being a group of people one day. (Not sure if we can get discount but probably we can!

[QUOTE=DaveC8201;2648699]Korean Airline. Must be a flight attendant. Those girls are hot! Every time I fly Korean Airline, I get an erection. Wouldn't mind be a part of the mile high club!

There is definitely some Korean hottie on IG! Did she show a lot of skin in her IG pix?[/QUOTE]Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.

[QUOTE=DaveC8201;2648699]Korean Airline. Must be a flight attendant. Those girls are hot! Every time I fly Korean Airline, I get an erection. Wouldn't mind be a part of the mile high club!

There is definitely some Korean hottie on IG! Did she show a lot of skin in her IG pix?[/QUOTE]It's just the thought of banging a flight attendant is awesome man. Her pictures aren't showing to much skins like big breasts. But she dresses well and wear these nice skanky dresses that shows off her cleavage in a subtle way and nice long legs with white creamy skin that is my favourite. And she has so many random pictures of her in nice hotels that you have no idea who took for her haha. It is a good sign when msging I think she said she work at air Busan or Asiana, I forgot but her uniform is light blue was a white scarf. Sucked in bed just lied there, but she was so sexy, body was so nice, slim, long legs, white manicure and pedicure. Hairless! My favourite!

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2648642]I was offered entry at Gold Superman near Gangnam and also at Lyra (erstwhile Castle) near SeoulLeung. Both offered 300 k for one shot. Is it OK to negotiate or is it a 'take it or leave it' model and it's not considered polite to negotiate?

I am looking for the address of Gain. Heard from folks that it's top quality. Once you get your PM, do PM me the location of Gain.[/QUOTE]I think it doesn't hurt to negotiate. But don't haggle to much. Just simply ask: is 2 shot okay for 300 k? For me I need 2 shots because I come in like 2 minutes. But if you like longer foreplay then you can just opt for 1 shot. The price you're getting is still good and you're allowed to get in there really the key. So many foreigners can't get in at all so they have to go to RLDs and random barber blowjob joints.

Everything is negotiable but whether you good or bad at is a different story haha. For kiss bangs I always pay around 100,000 for full service but usually the girls just give you a hand job or blow job. But you can say stuff like, no hand job no blow, just sex 100 k? Please. They always say yes hehe. Some girls I DM, when telling them the location to meet, I definitely don't want to bring them to high end hotels like Hyatt, shilla, Sofitel or other hotels. So I sneak the question like. Is any location okay? Do you like fancy hotel or anything is okay? Is it okay we go to motel? And usually they only answer the last question, and answer any location / motel is okay then you book a simple love motel hehe, saved some money there that's what I did with flight at attendant.

I'll probably check out Lyra / castle later today and see the situation!

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648785]Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.[/QUOTE]To each their own hehe. There are people paying $2000 a day some up to 20,000 a day for Kpop stars and trainees or just high end models too. It's funny because I always hear about this on Reddit forums and stuff and always thought people say this shit to flex, boast and chase clout. When I met a few friends in cheongdam doing business and got introduced to some group and just talking with girls I met I learned first hand almost every single Korean kid under 28 don't work because of their parents and all they talk about is the very thing we talk about here but they are more into picking up girls at the club / instagrams and sponsoring 3-5 girls at time paying 20,000-40,000 a month or sometimes in single session (take with grain of salt). There is one particular super hot girl very popular on Instagram that charge 15,000-20,000 (not quite sure all details) and the only hotel she goes to is paradise city with a specific room. There's more to this but I shorten, skipped some details, because I don't want to type an essay and go to into deep details. It is incredible the amount of people make, and what they spend it on. If you look at as as whole, it's stupid to pay for sex when it's free LOL, let alone 300 or 700 or 20000. There are levels to the games but some might say level of stupid.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2648642]I was offered entry at Gold Superman near Gangnam and also at Lyra (erstwhile Castle) near SeoulLeung. Both offered 300 k for one shot. Is it OK to negotiate or is it a 'take it or leave it' model and it's not considered polite to negotiate?

I am looking for the address of Gain. Heard from folks that it's top quality. Once you get your PM, do PM me the location of Gain.[/QUOTE]Hmm I think you could ask for a lower price or name your price first 280 K or something and see how they respond. Most places won't budge though from their initial call price.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648429]Yeah she was super hot man and I was super horny. She works for a Korean airline so man I could not resist.[/QUOTE]Worth it haha!

Also will be visiting another hyugetel tomorrow in gangnam area. Will report back if they allow foreigners and what the process / experience is like.

Ooh also as a question, what kind of girls are you guys' looking for from an anma / hyugetel / op / etc experience?

Korean? Russian? GFE? Cute? Petite? Sexy? Big ass? Etc?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648785]Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.[/QUOTE]Heh at least this way he gets to enjoy multiple women for the same cost of dating full time. Best of both worlds in my book!

Also, should be at 30 posts now so PM if you'd like to go to hyugetels / anmas / OP's together (Please see my post way below).

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2648785]Haha you're go na pay deeply for that hotness. If people are paying 700 for a date then think of how much youd be spending dating full time. Shed be wanting a Chanel bag every week. Enjoy LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not paying 700. That's crazy and pushes the price up for everyone. I'd just go to Gain a few times or other places for that price.

Based on some of these posts from a few pages back, I think we have been invaded by some agency crew trying to push higher rates.

These rate asks won't last when there are fewer flight restrictions. We'll see more independent uni girls working for less (they are out there) and a trip + week of fun in SE Asia will be less than some of the foolish numbers I am seeing posted here.

Don't think you need to spend some of these ridiculous prices to have fun in Seoul. Do your homework. Try dating (unless you are just plain fugly or really old).

And on a different note. Candy has been around Itaewon for over 15 years. If I catch any of you actually paying 30 k for a drink with someone like that, I will personally reach through your monitor and slap you like Napoleon.

And yes, the Hill is mostly dead, but if you can catch Pandora open, under the Uzbek restaurant, you will be a happy man.

[QUOTE=DaveC8201;2649187]I'm not paying 700. That's crazy and pushes the price up for everyone. I'd just go to Gain a few times or other places for that price.[/QUOTE]Or kiss room LOL, you can go 3 times paying the average of 190 and bang 3 cute girls!

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2649184]Heh at least this way he gets to enjoy multiple women for the same cost of dating full time. Best of both worlds in my book!

Also, should be at 30 posts now so PM if you'd like to go to hyugetels / anmas / OP's together (Please see my post way below).[/QUOTE]Right! If you take a hot girl on a date, you're going to spend close to that and you might not get sex until few dates haha! Any good high end resto is going to cost $200++ With alcohol, especially if it's sushi omasake. Then plus a nice hotel it's gone 400+ unless you just budget everything which definitely works! Everyone has a method, budget and different type of girls they go after! I'll go with you soon!

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2649371]Based on some of these posts from a few pages back, I think we have been invaded by some agency crew trying to push higher rates.

These rate asks won't last when there are fewer flight restrictions. We'll see more independent uni girls working for less (they are out there) and a trip + week of fun in SE Asia will be less than some of the foolish numbers I am seeing posted here.

Don't think you need to spend some of these ridiculous prices to have fun in Seoul. Do your homework. Try dating (unless you are just plain fugly or really old).

And on a different note. Candy has been around Itaewon for over 15 years. If I catch any of you actually paying 30 k for a drink with someone like that, I will personally reach through your monitor and slap you like Napoleon.

And yes, the Hill is mostly dead, but if you can catch Pandora open, under the Uzbek restaurant, you will be a happy man.[/QUOTE]It's interesting you mention the price hike, I also hear from the girls I've been seeing and some of my pals that run outcalls, they are telling me tons of girls are going to Singapore or Dubai because they are paying way more than men in Korea as tons of them low balling and demanding. But I agree you definitely do not need to spend that kind of money to have fun. Just stick within your budget and comfort level, there many girls in the sea who will accept your offer. Some might think they are worth more than they are just like the same way you think they are worth. If that make sense. Plenty to choose from.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2649182]Ooh also as a question, what kind of girls are you guys' looking for from an anma / hyugetel / op / etc experience?

Korean? Russian? GFE? Cute? Petite? Sexy? Big ass? Etc?[/QUOTE]My ideal Korean women would: creamy white skin, c cup, cute or sexy face, and slim legs. I don't have a preference for height.

Occasionally I don't mind having college girls, a-be tits, Average body and soft bum. It'd usually the age or their perceived innocence that's turns me on. I also don't mind Korean MILFs 30-35+ as some of them kept their bodies nice and toned. Petite girls are nice too because you can pick them up and you know what I mean!!

In terms of sex experience, I prefer GFE the most I don't mind not having PSE because you can get that any time. I like the DFK and slowly love making and eventually CIP where possible. I have yet to try a Russian here but heard from some of my friends they are sexy as fuck. This is on my bucket list for sure.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2649179]Also will be visiting another hyugetel tomorrow in gangnam area. Will report back if they allow foreigners and what the process / experience is like.[/QUOTE]Bro sorry what is a hyugetel? Is what the difference between that and anma? Do you get to choose the girls instead? This is probably something I haven't tried yet.

This has worked for me, but like mentioned some of the girls are asking crazy amounts. One wanted me to pay 500,000 just to meet for dinner. And she was average looking at best. There is a Russian Korean girl on there. She is list her age 26 but I think she is 29 and name starts with letter V. She does not like kissing or oral and afraid of germs. The rate was 300,000 for about 2 hours of time. I would be curious if other guys are getting better experiences with her.

British girl 5'2" short and slim and fun but wants everything with cover. Her rate was between 400,000 and 500,000.

Suwon used to be awesome. Dongducheon is open to foreign teachers and a few at yeongdeungpo. Pyeongtaek really is not good. Busan is same has Guram. 1 or 2 of out of 10 would open door but girls were in their late 30's or bigger.

I have not found a good way to find the right girl that will accept. Even the older or fatter ones often say no. These places do not have be row girls. I asked one girl 4 or 5 times.

It is so much work and always changing.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2649452]This has worked for me, but like mentioned some of the girls are asking crazy amounts. One wanted me to pay 500,000 just to meet for dinner. And she was average looking at best. There is a Russian Korean girl on there. She is list her age 26 but I think she is 29 and name starts with letter V. She does not like kissing or oral and afraid of germs. The rate was 300,000 for about 2 hours of time. I would be curious if other guys are getting better experiences with her.

British girl 5'2" short and slim and fun but wants everything with cover. Her rate was between 400,000 and 500,000.[/QUOTE]I tried this too. That entire website site in Seoul is flooded by agencies. I think I met at least 7 or 8 girls on there and deduced they were agency because they had no idea of our prior conversations or spoke English like how they talk in chat LOL. So I'm assuming it's some guy typing it.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2649184]Heh at least this way he gets to enjoy multiple women for the same cost of dating full time. Best of both worlds in my book!

Also, should be at 30 posts now so PM if you'd like to go to hyugetels / anmas / OP's together (Please see my post way below).[/QUOTE]Haha tako halo, I don't think we can message each other. You must buy a subscription: I was looking forward to our 30 post.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2649072]I think it doesn't hurt to negotiate. But don't haggle to much. Just simply ask: is 2 shot okay for 300 k? For me I need 2 shots because I come in like 2 minutes. But if you like longer foreplay then you can just opt for 1 shot. The price you're getting is still good and you're allowed to get in there really the key. So many foreigners can't get in at all so they have to go to RLDs and random barber blowjob joints.

Everything is negotiable but whether you good or bad at is a different story haha. For kiss bangs I always pay around 100,000 for full service but usually the girls just give you a hand job or blow job. But you can say stuff like, no hand job no blow, just sex 100 k? Please. They always say yes hehe. Some girls I DM, when telling them the location to meet, I definitely don't want to bring them to high end hotels like Hyatt, shilla, Sofitel or other hotels. So I sneak the question like. Is any location okay? Do you like fancy hotel or anything is okay? Is it okay we go to motel? And usually they only answer the last question, and answer any location / motel is okay then you book a simple love motel hehe, saved some money there that's what I did with flight at attendant.

I'll probably check out Lyra / castle later today and see the situation![/QUOTE]Are you able to do full service in kiss bang or are you meeting them outside later? I thought its hard to do full service in the room.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2649371]

And on a different note. Candy has been around Itaewon for over 15 years. If I catch any of you actually paying 30 k for a drink with someone like that, I will personally reach through your monitor and slap you like Napoleon.

And yes, the Hill is mostly dead, but if you can catch Pandora open, under the Uzbek restaurant, you will be a happy man.[/QUOTE]Preach.

SA is mostly a joke. How I wish we could travel.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2649182]
Ooh also as a question, what kind of girls are you guys' looking for from an anma / hyugetel / op / etc experience?
[/QUOTE]Korean, big breasts, good at BJs.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2649610]Are you able to do full service in kiss bang or are you meeting them outside later? I thought its hard to do full service in the room.[/QUOTE]You can do it in the kiss room itself. Yeah it's not the most Romantic or comfortable thing, it's more like a quickie than anything. You don't shower or anything. You can use some wet wipes to wipe yourself and her down. You can ask for their kakao if you want to meet at motels from time to time if you want. You will need to talk to them about that and arrange it. If they like you they definitely will do that.

Wow, 700 k!

Now the agencies and MR girls reading this forum will start thinking they should up their rates by another 100-200 k since someone out there is willing to pay haha. The scene in Korea sure has come a long way from independent girls charging 120-150 k, to doubling their rates virtually overnight (I was there when the 150 k girls became 250 k girls, then just as suddenly suddenly 350 k became the norm). And now they hear of customers willingly throwing 700 k for service that isn't even overnight!

There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k, and by all night I mean exactly that. Not quite my cup of tea when you can get almost as hot girls from the OP sites for less than half the price, especially if you become a girl's repeat customer she would be more than willing to make side deals with you.

Someone asked what time Miari opens. The answer is it's pretty much a 24 HR place. The night shift girls start arriving between 6-8 pm and work till 4-5 am. The day shift girls arrive around 6-7 am and work till noon-ish, then second day shift girls work from noon till around 5 pm. Night shift obviously has the highest selection, though there will be a good (but small) selection of MILFs for day shift.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2649793]There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k.[/QUOTE]How do you find girls on insta? How would you know they are punting?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2649793]Wow, 700 k!

Now the agencies and MR girls reading this forum will start thinking they should up their rates by another 100-200 k since someone out there is willing to pay haha. The scene in Korea sure has come a long way from independent girls charging 120-150 k, to doubling their rates virtually overnight (I was there when the 150 k girls became 250 k girls, then just as suddenly suddenly 350 k became the norm). And now they hear of customers willingly throwing 700 k for service that isn't even overnight!

There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k, and by all night I mean exactly that. Not quite my cup of tea when you can get almost as hot girls from the OP sites for less than half the price, especially if you become a girl's repeat customer she would be more than willing to make side deals with you.

Someone asked what time Miari opens. The answer is it's pretty much a 24 HR place. The night shift girls start arriving between 6-8 pm and work till 4-5 am. The day shift girls arrive around 6-7 am and work till noon-ish, then second day shift girls work from noon till around 5 pm. Night shift obviously has the highest selection, though there will be a good (but small) selection of MILFs for day shift.[/QUOTE]Yeah could of probably had a 3 some!

I'm from the us but would go to Seoul once or twice a year before Covid. I plan to go again once quarantine rules loosen up. I've gone to anmas and RLDs and kiss bangs but it would be cool to have a few mongering bros to share info and meet up with. If you guys are serious about it I'd love to exchange info also for that. Guess I would have to post to get up to DM status since I don't want to do the weird payment system also. I've never been to a room salon since my Korean is limited and it's hard to figure out when you're not fluent. I would be down to go though.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2640955]Y'all want to meet up and go to room salons together?

But I don't think he's going to come back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2649682]You can do it in the kiss room itself. Yeah it's not the most Romantic or comfortable thing, it's more like a quickie than anything. You don't shower or anything. You can use some wet wipes to wipe yourself and her down. You can ask for their kakao if you want to meet at motels from time to time if you want. You will need to talk to them about that and arrange it. If they like you they definitely will do that.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to a kb the prices were higher than you listed. It was 80 k for an hour and girls were asking 50 for a HJ and some even 100 for a HJ. I declined the 100 HJ cause they're just jacking up the price. I had one girl offer 150 for FS but she was less attractive than the other ones that wanted more money. I never tried negotiating but perhaps I could try that.

Anyone know if it's possible to get a Korean phone number without having a Korean ID? Something temporary would be fine. I've always understood you need a Korean ID to grt a phone. In the us we have prepaid phones or no contract / monthly phone plans. Does that exist in Korea?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2649540]Haha tako halo, I don't think we can message each other. You must buy a subscription: I was looking forward to our 30 post.[/QUOTE]Guys,

Just buy a subscription. Lot easier and convenient to PM details and move from there.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2649793]Wow, 700 k!

Now the agencies and MR girls reading this forum will start thinking they should up their rates by another 100-200 k since someone out there is willing to pay haha. The scene in Korea sure has come a long way from independent girls charging 120-150 k, to doubling their rates virtually overnight (I was there when the 150 k girls became 250 k girls, then just as suddenly suddenly 350 k became the norm). And now they hear of customers willingly throwing 700 k for service that isn't even overnight!

There are thousands of Korean girls on insta that will let you creampie them all night for 700 k, and by all night I mean exactly that. Not quite my cup of tea when you can get almost as hot girls from the OP sites for less than half the price, especially if you become a girl's repeat customer she would be more than willing to make side deals with you..[/QUOTE]I wish yeongdeungpo was a 24 HR place? By the way what are the Prices at Miari?

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2649456]Suwon used to be awesome. Dongducheon is open to foreign teachers and a few at yeongdeungpo. Pyeongtaek really is not good. Busan is same has Guram. 1 or 2 of out of 10 would open door but girls were in their late 30's or bigger.

I have not found a good way to find the right girl that will accept. Even the older or fatter ones often say no. These places do not have be row girls. I asked one girl 4 or 5 times.

It is so much work and always changing.[/QUOTE]How many are left in Seoul including ***** hill? I miss 588.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2649963]Anyone know if it's possible to get a Korean phone number without having a Korean ID? Something temporary would be fine. I've always understood you need a Korean ID to grt a phone. In the us we have prepaid phones or no contract / monthly phone plans. Does that exist in Korea?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can buy a pre-paid SIM but they will need your passport to register it to it.

Last time I was there and at cheonho also I was quite 100 k for 30 minutes but I'm not a local. I've heard locals get 80 k. Mind you, this is also two years ago pre Covid. Things may have changed.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2650143]I wish yeongdeungpo was a 24 HR place? By the way what are the Prices at Miari?[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Will basically any place do this? Any idea of what normal prices are? It's useful to have a local number just for something like kakao taxi. Sometimes it's hard to get a taxi.

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2650391]Yes, you can buy a pre-paid SIM but they will need your passport to register it to it.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone here been to a kiss bang lately? It seems kiss time in hongdae is still open but I'm not sure how the others are. I came across this website that had a list of kids bangs on another forum but seems to be an old list. I wonder how many of those are still open now. I can try to go find the list again and post it here if anyone is interested in exploring.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2649959]Last time I went to a kb the prices were higher than you listed. It was 80 k for an hour and girls were asking 50 for a HJ and some even 100 for a HJ. I declined the 100 HJ cause they're just jacking up the price. I had one girl offer 150 for FS but she was less attractive than the other ones that wanted more money. I never tried negotiating but perhaps I could try that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2649423]Or kiss room LOL, you can go 3 times paying the average of 190 and bang 3 cute girls![/QUOTE]Where are some foreigner-friendly kiss bangs? I have never been in one.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2650501]Thanks. Will basically any place do this? Any idea of what normal prices are? It's useful to have a local number just for something like kakao taxi. Sometimes it's hard to get a taxi.[/QUOTE]It's been a long time since I had a pre-paid SIM so I don't know what the rates are. Just go to a SKTelecom or KT store with your passport and they will probably know what you need. The pre-paid SIMs that I had in the past would automatically expire after like 30 days -- not sure if that's still true today either.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2650544]Has anyone here been to a kiss bang lately? It seems kiss time in hongdae is still open but I'm not sure how the others are. I came across this website that had a list of kids bangs on another forum but seems to be an old list. I wonder how many of those are still open now. I can try to go find the list again and post it here if anyone is interested in exploring.[/QUOTE]A couple years ago Korea passed a law to crack down on "sex like" establishments -- this impacted KB's which is why there are a lot less of them now (risk vs reward).

If you take exit 1 out of Hongdae at the green line, go towards the the first back street behind the main road. You should be on the opposite of the main Hongdae area. At the first intersection, on the left backhand corner above a convenient store, you will see a sign with a big K at the very top. I believe it is the third floor you there is one there. However, I think a better one is down the road. When you are at the first intersection facing away from the main road, make a left and go almost all the way down the street. On the right hand side towards the end, there is a red brick building after a "banana noraebang" and you'll see a sign with a K on it and says kiss time if I remember correctly. Go up to the third floor and there is another one there that I've found to have hotter girls.

Please report back if you go. I'd like to know how they are doing these days. They both take foreigners. At least East Asian looking ones from my experience.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2650625]Where are some foreigner-friendly kiss bangs? I have never been in one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2650916]If you take exit 1 out of Hongdae at the green line, go towards the the first back street behind the main road. You should be on the opposite of the main Hongdae area. At the first intersection, on the left backhand corner above a convenient store, you will see a sign with a big K at the very top. I believe it is the third floor you there is one there. However, I think a better one is down the road. When you are at the first intersection facing away from the main road, make a left and go almost all the way down the street. On the right hand side towards the end, there is a red brick building after a "banana noraebang" and you'll see a sign with a K on it and says kiss time if I remember correctly. Go up to the third floor and there is another one there that I've found to have hotter girls.

Please report back if you go. I'd like to know how they are doing these days. They both take foreigners. At least East Asian looking ones from my experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

What the protocol for these Kiss rooms?

I mean you pay at the counter and then brush your teeth etc. Or are they just talking with you mainly until you ask them for some services??

There is no real protocol aside from what you mentioned. You pay, go brush your teeth, then the front desk guy will show you to your room. If you know who you want, you can make a request. You can ask for specific types but usually they just send whoever is available to your room.

In the room, it depends a lot on the girl. Some girls are kind of straight to business and will tell you their menu and prices. Personally, I prefer the ones who at least try to establish a rapport as they're usually more service oriented. They'll usually chit chat and you can kiss and touch and how much and how far you can go is up to the girl. Almost always they'll ask if you want extra service as that's how they make their money. Prices seem to vary and I feel like I've paid more than what I've seen others say they pay for in forums. I've been quoted pretty standard by multiple girls 50 for HJ and if they offer BJ it's 100. Some will ask for 100 for HJ, which is too much IMO but they're usually the better looking ones. I've had one quote 50 just to take her top off. She was one of the better looking ones I've seen though.

Some offer FS but menus vary a lot depending on the girl. I find part of the fun is to find one you like and have a rapport with them instead of going to a jack shack. The girls are usually college girls and I've had more good looking than not good looking ones.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2651177]Thanks.

What the protocol for these Kiss rooms?

I mean you pay at the counter and then brush your teeth etc. Or are they just talking with you mainly until you ask them for some services??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2650916]If you take exit 1 out of Hongdae at the green line, go towards the the first back street behind the main road. You should be on the opposite of the main Hongdae area. At the first intersection, on the left backhand corner above a convenient store, you will see a sign with a big K at the very top. I believe it is the third floor you there is one there. However, I think a better one is down the road. When you are at the first intersection facing away from the main road, make a left and go almost all the way down the street. On the right hand side towards the end, there is a red brick building after a "banana noraebang" and you'll see a sign with a K on it and says kiss time if I remember correctly. Go up to the third floor and there is another one there that I've found to have hotter girls.

Please report back if you go. I'd like to know how they are doing these days. They both take foreigners. At least East Asian looking ones from my experience.[/QUOTE]What is the address of this place? The directions are a bit confusing. Or at least give the address of the convenient store if that is better for privacy issues.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2649540]Haha tako halo, I don't think we can message each other. You must buy a subscription: I was looking forward to our 30 post.[/QUOTE]In order to be a senior member, you need to have 25 posts (not 30) and you need to have an active account here for six months.

Do you live in Seoul? I live in Seoul myself and it would be good to meet some new people.

[QUOTE=DoodleMan;2651408]What is the address of this place? The directions are a bit confusing. Or at least give the address of the convenient store if that is better for privacy issues.[/QUOTE]I doubt anyone really knows the addresses to most of these places they go to. It's not like they have a yelp page. Honestly, the directions I gave were pretty detailed and I was given much less detailed directions the first time I went.

I was never able to find nor get in with an officetel. It seems they're more for natives. Anyone here know how a foreigner would be able to get access or more info?

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2651498]I was never able to find nor get in with an officetel. It seems they're more for natives. Anyone here know how a foreigner would be able to get access or more info?[/QUOTE]Are you in Korea now? I used to tell these private services my pseudonym when I tried contacting these places. I would tell them I am cnetro and I needed an inquiry if foreigners were allowed, but they always said no. Times have changed due to COVID, so it's possible there aren't any places that allow foreigners anymore except in Itaewon. But the Itaewon ladies are quite old and unattractive, plus they are fat and / or riddled with plastic surgeries. It's hard to find an attractive lady in Itaewon now.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2554683]Went back to King Thai Watpo near Hongdae. Made an appointment beforehand but still ended up waiting for 30+ minutes, they seemed super busy for a weeknight. Girl I got was young and thin, not a knockout but cute enough. She didn't seem to be in a great mood, I'm guessing that had to do with how busy they were. Massage and he were good despite her attitude, but it did make it a bit less fun. The prices and location are nice and I haven't had a "bad" experience yet per say, but I'll probably check out some other places. For what it's worth, a friend also tried it out recently on a weekend night and said he got a less attractive chubby girl, so they're not all gems. The hunt continues.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know the list of therapists available in this location? I want I try to find one particular one from Thailand. She had given a great massage. However forgot to ask her name. Been trying to find her since.

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[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2650500]Last time I was there and at cheonho also I was quite 100 k for 30 minutes but I'm not a local. I've heard locals get 80 k. Mind you, this is also two years ago pre Covid. Things may have changed.[/QUOTE]Is Cheonho open and operating?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2651718]Is Cheonho open and operating?[/QUOTE]Perhaps someone in Korea can do some recon and report back. It's not that far from the heart of Seoul.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2651718]Is Cheonho open and operating?[/QUOTE]Different place but ydp was totally dead last time I went pre Covid. I did go when the sun was still out though.

[QUOTE=DoodleMan;2651664]It's too bad we can't send messages here without being a senior member or a subscriber. [/QUOTE]Most sites such as this one charge a nominal subscriber fee as it takes money to run a site like this.

[QUOTE=RunMann;2652006]Most sites such as this one charge a nominal subscriber fee as it takes money to run a site like this.[/QUOTE]It seems some of the guys would prefer a more traditional way to pay like with a CC and the fee itself isn't so much the issue.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2651718]Is Cheonho open and operating?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, that place is shut down. I live near it and it's been down for 2 years now. Only places in Seoul that I know of is YDP, which is a shell of its former self, Miari, and Hooker Hill.

[QUOTE=Venturism;2652197]Unfortunately, that place is shut down. I live near it and it's been down for 2 years now. Only places in Seoul that I know of is YDP, which is a shell of its former self, Miari, and Hooker Hill.[/QUOTE]That's sad to hear. Cheonho was way better than ydp miari and 588 I felt. Anyone know if Suwon is still open?

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2651900]Different place but ydp was totally dead last time I went pre Covid. I did go when the sun was still out though.[/QUOTE]There is s girl on the main road down from YDP station. She is next to cash machine. She takes foreigners but always wants people to buy for more time. Guys will go in and come out to get more money. I heard one saying service is bad because she is wanting the customer to run out of time. If someone does get excited enough she tries to limit how deep they go. She looks attractive but horrible service.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2652451]There is s girl on the main road down from YDP station. She is next to cash machine. She takes foreigners but always wants people to buy for more time. Guys will go in and come out to get more money. I heard one saying service is bad because she is wanting the customer to run out of time. If someone does get excited enough she tries to limit how deep they go. She looks attractive but horrible service.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll look for her next time I go. She has to be pretty hot to make up for what sounds like poor service. Who knows. Hotness can make me overlook many flaws LOL.

[QUOTE=DoodleMan;2651616]Are you in Korea now? I used to tell these private services my pseudonym when I tried contacting these places. I would tell them I am cnetronobl and I needed an inquiry if foreigners were allowed, but they always said no. Times have changed due to COVID, so it's possible there aren't any places that allow foreigners anymore except in Itaewon. But the Itaewon ladies are quite old and unattractive, plus they are fat and / or riddled with plastic surgeries. It's hard to find a young, attractive lady in Itaewon now.[/QUOTE]I'm not in Korea right now but hope to be soon. I would think the officetels aren't in itaewon. I've never partaken at any of the places on the hill but from what I've read it seems the talent hasn't been good there for years.

I was hoping some of you can help answer some general room salon questions for me. I have basic knowledge but never been to one as it's not really a solo adventure. I know Korean Chinese mentioned a meet up to go to one.

How do you find them? I've seen some places around Gangnam that I assume are room salons but I can't tell for sure if they are or not.

How much do they usually cost? I know cost varies depending on the quality of the girls. Let's say one that has good looking girls but doesn't have the 1% ones. Also don't want a run down place with old / fat women.

How many people do you need to go? Is 2 acceptable?

Will someone who knows just a little Korean enjoy it?

Any other things a rs noob should know?

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2652451]There is s girl on the main road down from YDP station. She is next to cash machine. She takes foreigners but always wants people to buy for more time. Guys will go in and come out to get more money. I heard one saying service is bad because she is wanting the customer to run out of time. If someone does get excited enough she tries to limit how deep they go. She looks attractive but horrible service.[/QUOTE]Have you tried her? I hope YDP Stays open forever!

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2653781]Have you tried her? I hope YDP Stays open forever![/QUOTE]I haven't seen her. I've only been to ydp once and it didn't look open. I was there middle of the day though. I'm not sure if I saw the whole place cause the area I saw was pretty small.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2651247]There is no real protocol aside from what you mentioned. You pay, go brush your teeth, then the front desk guy will show you to your room. If you know who you want, you can make a request. You can ask for specific types but usually they just send whoever is available to your room.

In the room, it depends a lot on the girl. Some girls are kind of straight to business and will tell you their menu and prices. Personally, I prefer the ones who at least try to establish a rapport as they're usually more service oriented. They'll usually chit chat and you can kiss and touch and how much and how far you can go is up to the girl. Almost always they'll ask if you want extra service as that's how they make their money. Prices seem to vary and I feel like I've paid more than what I've seen others say they pay for in forums. I've been quoted pretty standard by multiple girls 50 for HJ and if they offer BJ it's 100. Some will ask for 100 for HJ, which is too much IMO but they're usually the better looking ones. I've had one quote 50 just to take her top off. She was one of the better looking ones I've seen though.

Some offer FS but menus vary a lot depending on the girl. I find part of the fun is to find one you like and have a rapport with them instead of going to a jack shack. The girls are usually college girls and I've had more good looking than not good looking ones.[/QUOTE]Anyone venture out to check out the places?

What happened to Korean Chinese and Tacoyaki? It seems like they live in Korea so I wanted to contact them but it looks like they disappeared off this site.

[QUOTE=DoodleMan;2654487]What happened to Korean Chinese and Tacoyaki? It seems like they live in Korea so I wanted to contact them but it looks like they disappeared off this site.[/QUOTE]Not sure where they went. I'm from the us.

Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.

For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.

Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.

Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.

Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.

Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings.

MVP VIP Massage in Gangnam used to be a fairly reliable location. The women working there tended to be older, but they were fit and gave a good massage before moving on to full service. Overall, there were more hits than misses, and some girls even offered uncovered service. Recently, however, service at MVP VIP declined. The usual front desk guy, who I presumed was the owner or manager, changed sometime in 2021. When he left the quality of the women dropped. I visited twice in 2021 and both times the women were large, unattractive, unfriendly, and annoyed. I won't be going back. Let me know if you've had better experiences lately. Maybe I was just unlucky.

Miari RLD has generally remained unchanged. My usual said that there are far fewer customers these days. As a result there seems to be fewer women as well. There aren't drastically fewer women, but it is noticeable nonetheless.

If you go to Miari, be prepared to look into at least a few different doors. Also, keep in mind that some of the women look relatively thin and busty sitting down, but flabby and flat chested naked. Some of the older ladies working outside will try to give you the worst of the bunch unless you're a picky customer. The more they promise good service, the faster you should run away. And if you don't like what you see. And they promise that there are more girls inside, they aren't lying, but the other girls won't be any better. Just keep walking. On a Sunday afternoon not too long ago, one of the older ladies who I have good rapport with told me point blank "there aren't many women and none of them are pretty today". Saturday is much better than Sunday, and the evenings are better than the mornings and afternoons.

If you can establish a relationship as a good customer at Miari, you will undoubtedly get better service. Also, if there is anything that you specifically want, ask first. Ask before stepping inside. Also double check that older lady and the woman who will provide the service both know what is expected. From my experience, it is possible to get uncovered full service from quite a few women, but certainly not all of them. Deep french kissing is also on the menu, but it has gotten harder to get since the pandemic. A few years ago, I even got anal at no extra charge. On that day I think I just got lucky as I haven't gotten any since. It was my third time with the same provider and she was suddenly happy to offer me anal. However, if anal is your thing, don't ask the older ladies whether their girls do it. Even the provider who gave it to me told me not to tell the older ladies. None of them are supposed to offer anal, and the older ladies will get upset if you even ask.

However, feel free to ask to use the showers. Even if you're already clean, it's not a bad idea to wash off before and after. Just make sure to ask before you pay. Anything that isn't agreed to before paying seems to seriously annoy the older ladies.

In 2019 I started using Gunmas and Hyugetels advertised online. Gunmas are full body massage, plus handjob, blowjob, titty fucking, and simulated sex, I. E. A well lubricated pussy sliding across the underside of your cock and balls without penetration. Some of these are advertised at brick and mortar massage shops but many are also in private officetels. Gunmas are staffed by Korean ladies, and because they don't include penetration they tend to accept foreigners more readily than the other advertised services online.

Some previous poster already mentioned that the popoular online service opstar moved to opgani6. This is true. You can also check out aspot11 and yamap7 without registering, but they have a smaller selection. However, if you can't register because your Korean language skills aren't good enough, you won't be able to use the service anyway. Even if you can register, you will still have to communicate with management through text and / or phone call. Some establishments only allow calls, others will allow details to be hashed out over text, but still require that you call to receive the room number after arriving at the officetel. Some will even want you to send a picture of your business card to confirm that you're a real person in Korea. They probably also want your information on file as a means of protecting the women. If this spooks you, you're free not to use their services.

Hyugetels are officetels, but they are generally staffed by Thai ladies. Most Hyugetels won't accept foreigners at all. Therefore, it is important to be as straightforward as possible. I always tell management that I'm not Korean when I make inquiries. Plenty of these messages have been ignored. Sometimes management politely tells me that their women are for Koreans only. This isn't due to xenophobia as many posters assume. After all, most women working at Hyugetels are from Thailand. It is generally the women's preference not to accept non-Koreans. These women don't want to be with western guys because they are 1) afraid of long dicks and / or 2) assume that western men will jackhammer them. By the way, this is not my assumption, this is what a handful of women have told me. In addition, I've even been asked by management how long my dick is before being offered the women who are willing to accept. The first time I was asked, I was caught off guard and had to check that I had heard correctly.

Because not every woman at a Hyugetel will agree to be with a foreigner, I have never been allowed to pick from the whole menu. For instance, if they advertise five women, I might be offered one or at most two of the five. There is no recourse in these situations. I don't believe there are any ombudsmen who will get involved in these business, so it's a take it or leave it kind of deal.

From my experience, there is more than one Hyugetel in Seoul that accepts foreigners. However, I don't believe they accepted me with open arms. I think their mentality was "OK, we'll give you a shot, but don't fuck this up". This was never stated outright, but I'm certain that there is a lot of hassle in taking on a new foreign customer. There are rules on their advertisements and they want to make sure that their customers understand. There's also cultural etiquette that they worry westerners won't understand. Therefore, you may not be provided access to the same Hyugetels that I have been.

If you intend to contact some of the advertisers, be polite and understanding. If you piss off one manager. Or worse, if you piss off one of the girls after they let you in, you will be blacklisted. Also keep in mind that although there are many advertisements, there aren't that many "businesses". A lot of them are the same place with a different mobile phone number. And a lot of them share a pool of talented woman. If you follow the advertisements long enough, you will notice a woman pop up in another part of the city.

I'm afraid I won't reveal which "businesses" have accepted me as I'm fairly certain I was only allowed because I was polite and persistent, and I don't want to blow up their business and likewise potentially ruin my enjoyment. However, where there is a will, there is a way. Good luck out there.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2653573]I was hoping some of you can help answer some general room salon questions for me. I have basic knowledge but never been to one as it's not really a solo adventure. I know Korean Chinese mentioned a meet up to go to one.

How do you find them? I've seen some places around Gangnam that I assume are room salons but I can't tell for sure if they are or not.

How much do they usually cost? I know cost varies depending on the quality of the girls. Let's say one that has good looking girls but doesn't have the 1% ones. Also don't want a run down place with old / fat women.

How many people do you need to go? Is 2 acceptable?

Will someone who knows just a little Korean enjoy it?

Any other things a rs noob should know?[/QUOTE]The only way I know how to go to a room salon is to call them and make a reservation. So you're going to need to know a bit of Korean. You can find quite a few on those officetel websites. You choose a girl and go to a noraebang room. They'll provide you snacks and a bunch of alcohol that you won't be able to finish. It's 1 hour in the room and then 45 min for fun time.

It's a flat rate of 240,000 won, but may charge you more if you're a foreigner. During the time, they constantly bring you more snacks and alcohol even though you don't need it. They expect you to tip 10,000 every time, so probably an extra 60,000.

The great thing is that you get to choose the girl from a 2 way mirror. You can see them, but they can't see you. Maybe 5-10 girls. Might have to wait longer for more girls to come if there is none you like. I got a smoking hot girl when I went.

Service wise, they start you off with a 20 second BJ at the start and end of the noraebang room. You talk, sing, drink, and eat during that time. Then you go up to the room where they provide the worst service ever. Very rushed and just lays there. They need to have energy for the next 10 guys they're going to see.

Probably something fun to experience one time, but for the cost and service, definitely not worth it anymore than that. You can go by yourself if you want, but it's definitely a better experience when you go with your bros. I took my friends there pre-covid 2 years ago. They don't know any Korean. I know only basic Korean, so I was the translator for them. The girls know minimal English. If you know basic Korean, you'll be fine.

[QUOTE=Venturism;2654970]The only way I know how to go to a room salon is to call them and make a reservation. So you're going to need to know a bit of Korean. You can find quite a few on those officetel websites. You choose a girl and go to a noraebang room. They'll provide you snacks and a bunch of alcohol that you won't be able to finish. It's 1 hour in the room and then 45 min for fun time.

It's a flat rate of 240,000 won, but may charge you more if you're a foreigner. During the time, they constantly bring you more snacks and alcohol even though you don't need it. They expect you to tip 10,000 every time, so probably an extra 60,000.

The great thing is that you get to choose the girl from a 2 way mirror. You can see them, but they can't see you. Maybe 5-10 girls. Might have to wait longer for more girls to come if there is none you like. I got a smoking hot girl when I went.

Service wise, they start you off with a 20 second BJ at the start and end of the noraebang room. You talk, sing, drink, and eat during that time. Then you go up to the room where they provide the worst service ever. Very rushed and just lays there. They need to have energy for the next 10 guys they're going to see.

Probably something fun to experience one time, but for the cost and service, definitely not worth it anymore than that. You can go by yourself if you want, but it's definitely a better experience when you go with your bros. I took my friends there pre-covid 2 years ago. They don't know any Korean. I know only basic Korean, so I was the translator for them. The girls know minimal English. If you know basic Korean, you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]Some rooms you fuck the girls with your friends in the room itself. Just imagine a noraebang orgy but you stick with the girl that you partner up with.

Time is 2 hours and 2nd hour is when they strip down LOL.

[QUOTE=Venturism;2654970]The only way I know how to go to a room salon is to call them and make a reservation. So you're going to need to know a bit of Korean. You can find quite a few on those officetel websites. You choose a girl and go to a noraebang room. They'll provide you snacks and a bunch of alcohol that you won't be able to finish. It's 1 hour in the room and then 45 min for fun time.

It's a flat rate of 240,000 won, but may charge you more if you're a foreigner. During the time, they constantly bring you more snacks and alcohol even though you don't need it. They expect you to tip 10,000 every time, so probably an extra 60,000.

The great thing is that you get to choose the girl from a 2 way mirror. You can see them, but they can't see you. Maybe 5-10 girls. Might have to wait longer for more girls to come if there is none you like. I got a smoking hot girl when I went.

Service wise, they start you off with a 20 second BJ at the start and end of the noraebang room. You talk, sing, drink, and eat during that time. Then you go up to the room where they provide the worst service ever. Very rushed and just lays there. They need to have energy for the next 10 guys they're going to see.

Probably something fun to experience one time, but for the cost and service, definitely not worth it anymore than that. You can go by yourself if you want, but it's definitely a better experience when you go with your bros. I took my friends there pre-covid 2 years ago. They don't know any Korean. I know only basic Korean, so I was the translator for them. The girls know minimal English. If you know basic Korean, you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Doesn't sound like the most fun from how you describe it but it'll probably be worth a try at least once. 240 is a lot less than I was expecting. One thing I'm confused about is the food and drinks. You tip the guy 10 but don't they also charge you extra every time they bring it in or is the 240 all inclusive of food drinks and girls' service?

Thanks for the detailed report on the officetels! I will do my best in trying to get in with one next time with your advice. What is a normal rate for one hour at an office tel?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2654929]Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.

For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.

Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.

Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.

Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.

Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings..[/QUOTE]

It seems in Asia, it's more normal to be getting it in on with a girl in the same room as other guys, IE pink salons in Japan. I don't know how I feel about that though LOL.

So it's 2 hours of drinking and singing before any action? I can see the appeal in that but I don't know how fun it would be if your Korean isn't good and the girls English isn't good.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2655249]Some rooms you fuck the girls with your friends in the room itself. Just imagine a noraebang orgy but you stick with the girl that you partner up with.

Time is 2 hours and 2nd hour is when they strip down LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2654929]Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.

For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.

Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.

Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.

Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.

Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings..[/QUOTE]Good report. Do you plan to get a PM for better communication. I wanted to understand the protocol and some 'unwritten' rules that will help me get access.

I want to go there but I don't want to go alone if I can go as a small group with one or two other people. Hopefully someone is interested.

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[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2655262]Thanks for the detailed report on the officetels! I will do my best in trying to get in with one next time with your advice. What is a normal rate for one hour at an office tel?[/QUOTE]The prices are clearly listed in the advertisements, so your best bet is to read them. If you can't read them, you won't be able to request what you would like anyway.

However, in the interests of trying to give back to the forum, where I have learned much, I'll explain the basics below.

Time is one factor that dictates price, but so is basic service as well as extras from the options menu. Most establishments also offer small discounts which are also described on the advertisements.

I'll explain by example below. Take, for instance, be course, which is a 50 minute, covered, 1-shot session. Most places list it at 100,000 won, and most offer a 10,000 won discount for customers who make an appointment before 6:00 pm. So if you want service in the early afternoon, you would only pay 90,000 won.

The 60 min courses are generally advertised as including 1-shot and 1-hand. So in addition to extra time, the provider will let you cum once through sex and once through a hand job. Some providers will work really hard to make you cum the second time. These 60 minute courses cost 110,000 - 120,000 won. If you want uncovered and would like to cum-inside your provider, you will need to add 30,000 won to the basic course price.

There are both shorter and longer courses than those mentioned above. Take a look at the advertisements and make some calls.

I tried a Gunma in Songpa gu. PM me for the details.

Not a good experience. The deal was struck at 90 k won. I went to the place and was ushered in. The massage was totally namesake. The provider was a decent girl but way too inexperienced and she told me so. Early 20's if I were to hazard a guess. After the namesake massage, it was all extras, 30 k for top access, 30 k for he and so on. The girl was totally new to this and not at all service oriented. Kept pushing back and saying no to everything.

The description provided by BonJovi3 in his Gunma section is totally not correct. It's a very basic fully clothed massage with a little bit of teasing involved. Nothing more.

Including the extras I spent 150 k, however I think a well known Anma like Gain, Castle, Gold etc would be a much better bet for the price they charge as well as much better value for money.

I will experiment those and provide a report.

Gunma's are not worth the price at all. Neither a good massage nor a good he.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2654929]Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.

For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.

Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.

Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.

Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.

Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings.

MVP VIP Massage in Gangnam used to be a fairly reliable location. The women working there tended to be older, but they were fit and gave a good massage before moving on to full service. Overall, there were more hits than misses, and some girls even offered uncovered service. Recently, however, service at MVP VIP declined. The usual front desk guy, who I presumed was the owner or manager, changed sometime in 2021. When he left the quality of the women dropped. I visited twice in 2021 and both times the women were large, unattractive, unfriendly, and annoyed. I won't be going back. Let me know if you've had better experiences lately. Maybe I was just unlucky..[/QUOTE]You haven't been to the YDP RLD?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2655266]Good report. Do you plan to get a PM for better communication. I wanted to understand the protocol and some 'unwritten' rules that will help me get access.[/QUOTE]Regarding the unspoken rules, I would say to let the women take charge. This is particularly important on your first encounter. She may be anxious if she hasn't been with many foreigners. Or, she may may be a true pro. In either case, you'll be better off following her lead in the beginning. An anxious provider will become comfortable over time, and a true pro will do a great job no matter what. She might even do things you didn't know you liked.

One thing to remember about East Asia, is that this sort of encounter is a service, and thus it tends to follow a particular set of steps. The steps are meant to slowly arouse so that your total time is well spent. You don't want to be so horny that you can't enjoy the experience because you're so focused on the end result. Just go with the flow and let the encounter play out. This is what I meant above when I wrote 'let the woman take charge'.

First, you'll brush your teeth and get showered. The provider will soap you up and and tease you by stroking you a bit during the process. Some providers will even give you some head in the shower. If they don't give you head in the shower, it is because it wasn't listed as one of their free service options.

After the shower you will dry off and be asked to lay on the bed. The provider will then lick you up and down your body and focus on your nipples before gently blowing you. If it is listed in the providers free options on her advertisement, she will also suck your balls, lick your asshole, and deep throat you. By the way, the three activities listed above are in order from most common to rarest.

This whole service is rather slow and meticulous, and it's meant to be slow, so enjoy it. After all. Hyugetel literally means 'rest' hotel. This is also one of the reasons why I prefer Hyugetels to RLDs. There is no rush to finish. The experience tends to be more sensual, more relaxing, and ultimately more pleasing.

Now I'll explain how all this relates to cultural etiquette. When I used the word service above, I would like to clarify that I meant the word in the most transactional sense. You are literally paying a woman to do something to you. As much as you may want to do something to her, you haven't necessarily paid for that, and thus you need to ask and / or be tentative when trying. This includes kissing and pussy licking. Even if they are listed as free options, you want to check first and make sure it's OK in the moment. Don't let your immediate desire interrupt the flow of the service. Let the situation play out. You may want to immediately jump on top of the provider, and being horny who could blame you, but it's better to wait until the right time, which is dictated by the experience.

Then there are activities like nipple tweaking which are not listed on advertisements, but are potentially fair game. In the heat of the moment you might want to pinch a nipple, but it's better to ask first or try tentatively. Some girls are comfortable saying no, others won't want tell you to stop but will instead position their nipples out of your reach. And remember that not every provider is really into things like deep French kissing, having her pussy eaten, or nipple play. They are, however, typically more than happy to do things to you, and they are also happy to do it with you in all sorts of positions.

You may have noticed that what I described is decidedly not porn-like. If you gravitate toward porn-like sex and get aggressive, many providers will not like it. If you have a porn fantasy, you probably won't meet the right kind of provider on your first outing. However, those women exist and some / most women will become more adventurous with repeat customers.

Managers want their women and their customers to be happy. There are even a handful of websites advertising a gentlemen's discount. Providers who state to management that you were a polite and well-mannered customer will help earn you discounts on future visits. This seems to indicate that the women's happiness is a priority. However, those same websites state that women who get more than three complaints for not providing adequate service will be fired. So, customer satisfaction is guaranteed. But, in this context, customer satisfaction is the provision of service in a transactional, contractually obligated way.

In addition to these unstated rules, there are also clearly stated rules on each advertisement. In a nutshell, they state that filming and photography are not allowed, taking off a condom without express permission is not allowed, verbally abusing women is not allowed, being drunk is not allowed, and finally that it is impossible to make a reservation using a public phone (land line) or internet phone (services like Skype).

Happy hunting. Let me know if you have any luck out there.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2655984]Regarding the unspoken rules, I would say to let the women take charge. This is particularly important on your first encounter. She may be anxious if she hasn't been with many foreigners. Or, she may may be a true pro. In either case, you'll be better off following her lead in the beginning. An anxious provider will become comfortable over time, and a true pro will do a great job no matter what. She might even do things you didn't know you liked.

One thing to remember about East Asia, is that this sort of encounter is a service, and thus it tends to follow a particular set of steps. The steps are meant to slowly arouse so that your total time is well spent. You don't want to be so horny that you can't enjoy the experience because you're so focused on the end result. Just go with the flow and let the encounter play out. This is what I meant above when I wrote 'let the woman take charge'.

First, you'll brush your teeth and get showered. The provider will soap you up and and tease you by stroking you a bit during the process. Some providers will even give you some head in the shower. If they don't give you head in the shower, it is because it wasn't listed as one of their free service options.

After the shower you will dry off and be asked to lay on the bed. The provider will then lick you up and down your body and focus on your nipples before gently blowing you. If it is listed in the providers free options on her advertisement, she will also suck your balls, lick your asshole, and deep throat you. By the way, the three activities listed above are in order from most common to rarest.

This whole service is rather slow and meticulous, and it's meant to be slow, so enjoy it. After all. Hyugetel literally means 'rest' hotel. This is also one of the reasons why I prefer Hyugetels to RLDs. There is no rush to finish. The experience tends to be more sensual, more relaxing, and ultimately more pleasing.

Now I'll explain how all this relates to cultural etiquette. When I used the word service above, I would like to clarify that I meant the word in the most transactional sense. You are literally paying a woman to do something to you. As much as you may want to do something to her, you haven't necessarily paid for that, and thus you need to ask and / or be tentative when trying. This includes kissing and pussy licking. Even if they are listed as free options, you want to check first and make sure it's OK in the moment. Don't let your immediate desire interrupt the flow of the service. Let the situation play out. You may want to immediately jump on top of the provider, and being horny who could blame you, but it's better to wait until the right time, which is dictated by the experience.

Then there are activities like nipple tweaking which are not listed on advertisements, but are potentially fair game. In the heat of the moment you might want to pinch a nipple, but it's better to ask first or try tentatively. Some girls are comfortable saying no, others won't want tell you to stop but will instead position their nipples out of your reach. And remember that not every provider is really into things like deep French kissing, having her pussy eaten, or nipple play. They are, however, typically more than happy to do things to you, and they are also happy to do it with you in all sorts of positions.

You may have noticed that what I described is decidedly not porn-like. If you gravitate toward porn-like sex and get aggressive, many providers will not like it. If you have a porn fantasy, you probably won't meet the right kind of provider on your first outing. However, those women exist and some / most women will become more adventurous with repeat customers.

Managers want their women and their customers to be happy. There are even a handful of websites advertising a gentlemen's discount. Providers who state to management that you were a polite and well-mannered customer will help earn you discounts on future visits. This seems to indicate that the women's happiness is a priority. However, those same websites state that women who get more than three complaints for not providing adequate service will be fired. So, customer satisfaction is guaranteed. But, in this context, customer satisfaction is the provision of service in a transactional, contractually obligated way.

In addition to these unstated rules, there are also clearly stated rules on each advertisement. In a nutshell, they state that filming and photography are not allowed, taking off a condom without express permission is not allowed, verbally abusing women is not allowed, being drunk is not allowed, and finally that it is impossible to make a reservation using a public phone (land line) or internet phone (services like Skype).

Happy hunting. Let me know if you have any luck out there.[/QUOTE]Nice info!

But the part about the girls getting fired is probably just to make the customer feel confident about visiting there. Also I'm sure there are TONS of drunk korean men going there as getting Hyguetel service makea a lot of there money at night from gjys who have been drinking.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2655740]I tried a Gunma in Songpa gu. PM me for the details.

Not a good experience. The deal was struck at 90 k won. I went to the place and was ushered in. The massage was totally namesake. The provider was a decent girl but way too inexperienced and she told me so. Early 20's if I were to hazard a guess. After the namesake massage, it was all extras, 30 k for top access, 30 k for he and so on. The girl was totally new to this and not at all service oriented. Kept pushing back and saying no to everything.

The description provided by BonJovi3 in his Gunma section is totally not correct. It's a very basic fully clothed massage with a little bit of teasing involved. Nothing more.

Including the extras I spent 150 k, however I think a well known Anma like Gain, Castle, Gold etc would be a much better bet for the price they charge as well as much better value for money.

I will experiment those and provide a report.

Gunma's are not worth the price at all. Neither a good massage nor a good he.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that you had a bad Gunma experience.

Can I ask whether you made an appointment using one of the websites listed in this forum when you had your encounter? Reading for clues in your report, I would guess that you had walk-in service at a regular massage shop, because from what I know there is no way to 'make a deal' at a real Gunma. The prices listed, 110,000 won for 60 minutes, are firm, and customers don't negotiate with the provider. The money is for 60 minutes total time, meaning there isn't a 60 minute massage plus extra time for HJ / BJ. It's more like 5 minute small talk, 5 minute shower, and 15-20 minute back massage, followed by service as described in the previous post until completion. Then quickly shower up and leave.

I've had my fair share of bad experiences in Korea as well, but every time I've booked through one of the web advertisements, I've had nothing but a good time. What they offer is pretty standard.

If, however, you walk in to a massage shop that does not explicitly offer extras, the providers will offer what you paid for first (a 60 minute massage), and then ask for extra money for any extra services provided, and as you stated they will be fairly expensive because you will need to pay for a higher tier of service as well as the extra time it takes to get there. Also, if you ask for service mid-massage, they will ask for even more because they know you're horny already and more likely to agree to any price. If you use walk-in massage services, don't be afraid to ask the owner / manager whether extras are allowed the moment you walk in. They won't be surprised that you would ask. I've been known to be even more blunt and ask whether sex is allowed. After being told no, and turning to walk away, a some places called out to me that sex wasn't allowed, but handjobs were part of the deal. In a lot of massage shops, this is the norm. However, it's important to clarify what you want and how much it costs, before you pay.

Also, as an extra note, if you look through the Gunma advertisements, look at the backgrounds of the photos. If all the advertised women take their individual photos in the same room with a narrow massage table, it means they work from a real massage shop. If, however, the pictures are taken in a bed or on a sofa, the providers will work out of an officetel somewhere. I prefer the latter, as they offer more comfort, more intimacy, and more privacy.

I hope you next experience goes well.

Also, I didn't know that the Anmas offered service that cheaply. I was also under the impression that most Anmas did not accept non-Asian customers. Being white and being relatively cheap, I have never even tried to enter an Anma before.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2655797]You haven't been to the YDP RLD?[/QUOTE]I've never been to YDP RLD before. I've always lived closer to other RLDs and based on information in this forum, not many people have had great things to say about YDP. What was your experience like?

Cheonho was good before it closed.

Miari is still good if you want uncovered service, but the facilities are worn out and youngest women seem to be in their mid 30's.

I haven't been to Suwon RLD in years because its a long commute, but I am curious whether it is still in action. I know this is the Seoul forum, but if anyone can confirm that Suwon is still open, I would appreciate it.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2655260]Thanks for the info! Doesn't sound like the most fun from how you describe it but it'll probably be worth a try at least once. 240 is a lot less than I was expecting. One thing I'm confused about is the food and drinks. You tip the guy 10 but don't they also charge you extra every time they bring it in or is the 240 all inclusive of food drinks and girls' service?[/QUOTE]It's 240 upfront for the room and girl with all the food and drinks included. Then every 10 minutes after, someone comes in with more food and drinks and you got to tip them 10. They'll come in another 4-5 times, so you're tipping them 10 every time they come. Then when you go to the room, you got to tip the guy that leads you to the room. So if you go with friends, you can split the cost of the tips.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2655249]Some rooms you fuck the girls with your friends in the room itself. Just imagine a noraebang orgy but you stick with the girl that you partner up with.

Time is 2 hours and 2nd hour is when they strip down LOL.[/QUOTE]Luckily we didn't go to that type. It felt a little awkward for all of us getting a BJ in the same room, but I'm not going to pass up getting blown from a hot girl LOL.

[QUOTE=Venturism;2656248]Luckily we didn't go to that type. It felt a little awkward for all of us getting a BJ in the same room, but I'm not going to pass up getting blown from a hot girl LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah it would awkward for sure the first time but most Korean friends who are close with each other think its pretty normal. They even wash naked at saunas together so they couldnt care less.
I pity the girls, or maybe they don't even care, that have to start having to blow sweaty business men who have been working all day without wiping down. Girls literally pour beer on their cocks to sterilize LOL. Makes covid sterilization look like a joke.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2656193]I'm sorry that you had a bad Gunma experience.

Can I ask whether you made an appointment using one of the websites listed in this forum when you had your encounter? Reading for clues in your report, I would guess that you had walk-in service at a regular massage shop, because from what I know there is no way to 'make a deal' at a real Gunma. The prices listed, 110,000 won for 60 minutes, are firm, and customers don't negotiate with the provider. The money is for 60 minutes total time, meaning there isn't a 60 minute massage plus extra time for HJ / BJ. It's more like 5 minute small talk, 5 minute shower, and 15-20 minute back massage, followed by service as described in the previous post until completion. Then quickly shower up and leave.

I've had my fair share of bad experiences in Korea as well, but every time I've booked through one of the web advertisements, I've had nothing but a good time. What they offer is pretty standard..[/QUOTE]I very much booked from a web ad. It was gunmalove dot com.

It was definitely not a regular massage shop. It was an officetel and I had to go inside an apartment complex. Not sure which websites are listed here on this forum that explicitly provide the service that you mentioned in your post. Please share the list of sites where it guarantees a good experience and not fleece you for extras after going inside. It was a bad miss for me I guess.

I have been offered entry into multiple Anma. The cost quoted is 300 k. Which is double of what I paid. For a lousy experience.

I will try out an anma next and share the report.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2656146]Nice info!

But the part about the girls getting fired is probably just to make the customer feel confident about visiting there. Also I'm sure there are TONS of drunk korean men going there as getting Hyguetel service makea a lot of there money at night from gjys who have been drinking.[/QUOTE]I'm sure some guys visit after drinking, but if they are actually drunk they aren't allowed in. These places get enough business that they can afford to bar bad customers.

Also, I'm certain that these places fire bad providers. Good service is a really important part of Korean consumer culture. Koreans don't joke around when it comes to customer satisfaction, and it stands to reason that the same rules that apply to every other successful service oriented business would apply here as well. These businesses rely on positive user reviews to generate new customers and they also rely on good experiences to create repeat customers. The most popular places are extremely professional.

No doubt there are unscrupulous managers, bad businesses, and women who would rather not be working, but considering how accepted this activity is in Korean culture (illegal, but totally normal), I'm certain that typical business practices apply. Like workers in any industry, the women are not irreplaceable. And believe me when I say that most customers in Korea expect the same quality of service at a Hyugetel that they would receive from a department store.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2656146]Nice info!

But the part about the girls getting fired is probably just to make the customer feel confident about visiting there. Also I'm sure there are TONS of drunk korean men going there as getting Hyguetel service makea a lot of there money at night from gjys who have been drinking.[/QUOTE]I'm sure some guys visit after drinking, but if they are actually drunk they aren't allowed. These places get enough business that they can afford to bar bad customers. It's partly why so few of them will accept non-Korean customers. They simply don't need the potential hassle of dealing with non-Koreans when there are plenty of Koreans willing to play.

Also, I'm certain that these places fire bad providers. Good service is a really important part of Korean consumer culture. Koreans don't joke around when it comes to customer satisfaction, and it stands to reason that the same rules that apply to every other successful service oriented business would apply to these businesses as well. These businesses rely on positive user reviews to generate new customers and they also rely on good experiences to create repeat customers. As a result the popular places are extremely professional. They have clean rooms, clean bedding, fresh towels, and attractive and willing providers.

No doubt there are unscrupulous managers, bad businesses, and women who have bad attitudes, but considering how accepted this activity is in Korean culture (illegal, but totally normal), typical business practices apply. In other words, in the regular world, there are also bad managers, businesses, and workers. Likewise, they will go out of business if they offer an unacceptable standard of service or maintain a workforce that doesn't perform. Just like workers in any industry, the women that work at Hyugetels are not irreplaceable. There's simply too much competition to maintain a shitty business.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2656207]I've never been to YDP RLD before. I've always lived closer to other RLDs and based on information in this forum, not many people have had great things to say about YDP. What was your experience like?

Cheonho was good before it closed.

Miari is still good if you want uncovered service, but the facilities are worn out and youngest women seem to be in their mid 30's.

I haven't been to Suwon RLD in years because its a long commute, but I am curious whether it is still in action. I know this is the Seoul forum, but if anyone can confirm that Suwon is still open, I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.

It has been said for foreigners f. Weekdays are better than weekends. And slow days the girl might be more open to f. But yes more girls on weekends and later in evening.

Suwon is gone. Or at least most of it. Construction started and main area was gone. It was the best foreigner spot. Now the other areas are getting more foreigners so maybe those will start to be more excepting.

YDP- the area between the mall and station road has older less attractive women that are open to FS. Service is good but the ladies might be in there 40's.

The area close to the mall is not F friendly. But 1 or 2 girls have offered service and they were not bad looking in their 20's /30's. Yes, the girl on the main road is attractive but she does not want to be fucked. She will do many things to keep from being deeply fucked. She is not horrible and because most of the others will not even let you inside. It is not the worse.

Dongducheon is getting older and bigger girls. But still F friendly.

Pyeongteak is just not worth it most days, but there are private rooms outside the glass windows with much older ladies 40/50's.

Wonju. Not a lot of girls and not open to F but one girl said yes for 200,000. I did not do it.

Paju. Have not visited in a long time and when I did not 1 place would let me enter. Day or night.

Mari was same experiences you have had. Which is also same has in Busan. Older lady lets you in and you pick. It is a pain too look in and say no. Girls look worse with clothes off but then it is really too late.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2656415]I very much booked from a web ad. It was gunmalove dot com.

It was definitely not a regular massage shop. It was an officetel and I had to go inside an apartment complex. Not sure which websites are listed here on this forum that explicitly provide the service that you mentioned in your post. Please share the list of sites where it guarantees a good experience and not fleece you for extras after going inside. It was a bad miss for me I guess.

I have been offered entry into multiple Anma. The cost quoted is 300 k. Which is double of what I paid. For a lousy experience.

I will try out an anma next and share the report.[/QUOTE]I've never visited gunmalove, and it doesn't appear to be online anymore. Can you clarify one thing about your experience. Did the ad list a bunch of women or just one? The ads that show just one woman typically don't include explicit description. Because of the lack of description, I always assumed that massage was the only guarantee and that extras cost more. There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example '51088;49828;48124;1인49397; These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more.

Even some of the ads that show multiple women, don't have any sexual descriptions. I always assumed that these would be waste of time too.

The only Gunma services I've used in the past (the ones where everything is allowed short of vaginal penetration and where everything is done to you while you lay down (as described in my earlier post)) expressly state the services offered on their websites next to the pictures of the women who offer the services. 역47549; means sucking and licking are involved. I think 부48708;48512;48708; is self explanatory. 하48708;50855; is non-penetrative sex. 똥44620;49884; means she'll lick your asshole. 입49912; can either mean BJ or cum in mouth (if it's at no extra charge it's just a BJ but if it costs more, it's CIM). And then there's 청47329;, which doesn't have an English translation. It's a bit hard to describe, but it's a BJ where the women sucks your cock going up and down in the normal way, while moving forward and backward (toward you and away from you) so that while your dick is in her mouth her head moves up near your belly button in one moment and then down between your legs in the next. So it's up down up down while she sucks your dick. It creates a unique sensation.

The Gunma I used in the past is called 설47128;. The women work out of the 선47497; area. I feel comfortable recommending this place because the provider who serviced me told me that I was not her only foreign customer. However, keep in mind that she teased me because my Korean was worse than her other foreign customers. So, if your Korean isn't at least conversational, you almost certainly won't get in, but I'll be happy if you prove me wrong. You can find the ad for this particular Gunma on all the websites mentioned in my previous posts.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2656614]I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.

It has been said for foreigners f. Weekdays are better than weekends. And slow days the girl might be more open to f. But yes more girls on weekends and later in evening.

Suwon is gone. Or at least most of it. Construction started and main area was gone. It was the best foreigner spot. Now the other areas are getting more foreigners so maybe those will start to be more excepting.

YDP- the area between the mall and station road has older less attractive women that are open to FS. Service is good but the ladies might be in there 40's.

The area close to the mall is not F friendly. But 1 or 2 girls have offered service and they were not bad looking in their 20's /30's. Yes, the girl on the main road is attractive but she does not want to be fucked. She will do many things to keep from being deeply fucked. She is not horrible and because most of the others will not even let you inside. It is not the worse..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I appreciate the report.

I have had a few Gunma experiences. Each of my gunma experience was different. Couple of times, find a guy on the street take me inside and show me a menu to choose time and experience. Cost was 130,000, went into room and changed, shower and back to room. Girl came in and massaged and then sex. Used Opstar and paid 90,000 for same thing. And even just walked into a thai massage place and asked what was possible. One place used two girls, one to give massage and one for sex services. I have also had the hand and pussyslide finish. Felt real enough. Most places have been upfront about what is offered. I use translation app and try to be extra nice, even when they say no foreigners.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2655708]The prices are clearly listed in the advertisements, so your best bet is to read them. If you can't read them, you won't be able to request what you would like anyway.

However, in the interests of trying to give back to the forum, where I have learned much, I'll explain the basics below.

Time is one factor that dictates price, but so is basic service as well as extras from the options menu. Most establishments also offer small discounts which are also described on the advertisements.

I'll explain by example below. Take, for instance, be course, which is a 50 minute, covered, 1-shot session. Most places list it at 100,000 won, and most offer a 10,000 won discount for customers who make an appointment before 6:00 pm. So if you want service in the early afternoon, you would only pay 90,000 won.

The 60 min courses are generally advertised as including 1-shot and 1-hand. So in addition to extra time, the provider will let you cum once through sex and once through a hand job. Some providers will work really hard to make you cum the second time. These 60 minute courses cost 110,000 - 120,000 won. If you want uncovered and would like to cum-inside your provider, you will need to add 30,000 won to the basic course price.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I can read so that shouldn't be a problem. I have more of a problem with finding these advertisements. I'm not sure where to look.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2655740]I tried a Gunma in Songpa gu. PM me for the details.

Not a good experience. The deal was struck at 90 k won. I went to the place and was ushered in. The massage was totally namesake. The provider was a decent girl but way too inexperienced and she told me so. Early 20's if I were to hazard a guess. After the namesake massage, it was all extras, 30 k for top access, 30 k for he and so on. The girl was totally new to this and not at all service oriented. Kept pushing back and saying no to everything.

The description provided by BonJovi3 in his Gunma section is totally not correct. It's a very basic fully clothed massage with a little bit of teasing involved. Nothing more.

Including the extras I spent 150 k, however I think a well known Anma like Gain, Castle, Gold etc would be a much better bet for the price they charge as well as much better value for money.

I will experiment those and provide a report..[/QUOTE]I was a little surprised by Bonjovi3's description of gunmas as well. I've never been to one but from what I know they're more like massage parlors with he. Anmas technically are massage parlors but you're there for FS and I've been to a few like fish (I think is closed now) and one a couple blocks away and another at seoleung but I forgot their names. They were all pretty service oriented.

Perhaps bonjovi3 went to a surprisingly good gunma.

Thanks for the report. I'm glad to hear that the owners not only want the customers to respect the girls but the girls to do the same. It should provide for a better experience.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2655984]Regarding the unspoken rules, I would say to let the women take charge. This is particularly important on your first encounter. She may be anxious if she hasn't been with many foreigners. Or, she may may be a true pro. In either case, you'll be better off following her lead in the beginning. An anxious provider will become comfortable over time, and a true pro will do a great job no matter what. She might even do things you didn't know you liked.

One thing to remember about East Asia, is that this sort of encounter is a service, and thus it tends to follow a particular set of steps. The steps are meant to slowly arouse so that your total time is well spent. You don't want to be so horny that you can't enjoy the experience because you're so focused on the end result. Just go with the flow and let the encounter play out. This is what I meant above when I wrote 'let the woman take charge'.

First, you'll brush your teeth and get showered. The provider will soap you up and and tease you by stroking you a bit during the process. Some providers will even give you some head in the shower. If they don't give you head in the shower, it is because it wasn't listed as one of their free service options...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2656207]I've never been to YDP RLD before. I've always lived closer to other RLDs and based on information in this forum, not many people have had great things to say about YDP. What was your experience like?

Cheonho was good before it closed.

Miari is still good if you want uncovered service, but the facilities are worn out and youngest women seem to be in their mid 30's.

I haven't been to Suwon RLD in years because its a long commute, but I am curious whether it is still in action. I know this is the Seoul forum, but if anyone can confirm that Suwon is still open, I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I agree cheonho was pretty good. I'm sad to hear it's closed. Suwon had some pretty attractive girls last time I went. However, I didn't like miari. Having to go into the rooms to look is kind of troublesome and the girls weren't very attractive and I finally chose one that looked good but once she stood up and got in the room she was much heavier than she looked sitting down with her dress covering her body. Since I was already in the room and paid I figure there's no going back so just went with it. Never went back.

[QUOTE=Venturism;2656247]It's 240 upfront for the room and girl with all the food and drinks included. Then every 10 minutes after, someone comes in with more food and drinks and you got to tip them 10. They'll come in another 4-5 times, so you're tipping them 10 every time they come. Then when you go to the room, you got to tip the guy that leads you to the room. So if you go with friends, you can split the cost of the tips.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Sorry to ask more noob questions but I assume 240 is per girl and the 240 includes an in room BJ? FS elsewhere?

[QUOTE=Venturism;2656248]Luckily we didn't go to that type. It felt a little awkward for all of us getting a BJ in the same room, but I'm not going to pass up getting blown from a hot girl LOL.[/QUOTE]A lot of the anmas went to a club theme a few years ago where a group of guys waiting will get called up like 5 at a team and they take you up the elevator to a room that's like a club with loud edm music, lights, etc and your girl will blow you in a room while the other guys get theirs from their girl and then they take you to a corner for your first shot before taking you back to a private room. It's less weird cause you don't know any of the guys but I would find it weird doing that with other guys I know also LOL.

Anyone know how to send private messages? I don't even see an option to do so.

[QUOTE=DoodleMan;2654487]What happened to Korean Chinese and Tacoyaki? It seems like they live in Korea so I wanted to contact them but it looks like they disappeared off this site.[/QUOTE]Don't worry I'm still here! Not so sure about Korean Chinese, but hope he is too.

I'm just waiting to become a senior member so we can DM and go mongering together!

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2654929]Since there's been a lot of activity on the Seoul forum recently, I decided it would be a good time to add my two cents.

For context, it's important to note that I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I can write and speak Korean well enough. I'm far from fluent, but I can easily communicate over the phone.

Furthermore, I've been in Seoul for a number of years, but like a lot of people on this forum, I took time off from this leisure activity due to concerns of contracting Covid. I was further deterred by the difficulty of gaining entry to establishments at the beginning of the pandemic. Even establishments where I was a known regular became suspicious that I might be a walking Covid carrier.

Anyway, the situation in Seoul has changed somewhat since the time before the pandemic and has changed again since the early days of the pandemic.

Since late 2020, I've returned to my all my regular places and managed to find a few new ones. I've detailed my experiences below.

Cheonho RLD closed for good. The area was torn down to make way for a large apartment complex. Right before the area was demolished, during the final process of evicting the last of the brothels, a fire broke out in the area. Unfortunately, a few women died. The blame for the fire was placed on an old charcoal heater being used in one of the buildings..[/QUOTE]Really nice write up and review!

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2656614]I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.

It has been said for foreigners f. Weekdays are better than weekends. And slow days the girl might be more open to f. But yes more girls on weekends and later in evening.

Suwon is gone. Or at least most of it. Construction started and main area was gone. It was the best foreigner spot. Now the other areas are getting more foreigners so maybe those will start to be more excepting.

YDP- the area between the mall and station road has older less attractive women that are open to FS. Service is good but the ladies might be in there 40's.

The area close to the mall is not F friendly. But 1 or 2 girls have offered service and they were not bad looking in their 20's /30's. Yes, the girl on the main road is attractive but she does not want to be fucked. She will do many things to keep from being deeply fucked. She is not horrible and because most of the others will not even let you inside. It is not the worse.

Dongducheon is getting older and bigger girls. But still F friendly.

Pyeongteak is just not worth it most days, but there are private rooms outside the glass windows with much older ladies 40/50's..[/QUOTE]Is Hooker hill worth it going to looking for FS?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2656618]I've never visited gunmalove, and it doesn't appear to be online anymore. Can you clarify one thing about your experience. Did the ad list a bunch of women or just one? The ads that show just one woman typically don't include explicit description. Because of the lack of description, I always assumed that massage was the only guarantee and that extras cost more. There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example '51088;49828;48124;1인49397; These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more.

Even some of the ads that show multiple women, don't have any sexual descriptions. I always assumed that these would be waste of time too..[/QUOTE]The Gunma names that you mentioned don't show up at all in any browser searches. It can't be a single Korean syllable. I guess the mods are masking the details. Please share specific names in PM. My PM is open. Gunmalove is very much up and running. It doesn't have anything along the lines that you are describing in your report.

I am also unable to find any Gunma websites in any of your posts. Either the details have been masked or you haven't provided the specifics.

I been surfing through this site for a bit and was wondering about that too, since a couple of y'all are talking about it. Not only that but some places require you to be in a group rather being solo.

It seems one of previous posts about 25 posts getting you access to DMs is incorrect. Anyone know what the real number is?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2657317]Don't worry I'm still here! Not so sure about Korean Chinese, but hope he is too.

I'm just waiting to become a senior member so we can DM and go mongering together![/QUOTE]

It's been years since I've even walked through there and the last time I walked by it was pretty dead and I didn't see anything worth your time. Not sure how it is today but from others posts it doesn't seem that great. However itaewon has a lot of good restaurants and bars so one could always make a little trip out of it and do some recon of the hill and post here for others also LOL.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2657371]Is Hooker hill worth it going to looking for FS?[/QUOTE]

I've gone with a friend before but the most was 2 of us. Every time it was just to a massage jack shack where we had our own room so it wasn't weird or anything.

[QUOTE=DoodleMan;2657378]I hope it won't sound awkward if I want to meet one of you guys to go to these sex establishments as a group. It is weird visiting these places alone for me especially since my Korean isn't that good. If you look in my post history, you should be able to find my pseudonym that I said I used when I go looking around. Maybe Control-F and type pseudonym.

Has anyone gone as a group? Or do you guys go usually alone? I'm very uncomfortable going alone and since this is Korea we're talking about, I'd feel a lot safer going with strangers haha. Thank goodness Korea is a safe country.

I want to be a senior member here, since I want buy a subscription but I refuse to do so with bitcoin. So Instagram contact is the best way for me until I can become a senior member.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2657393]The Gunma names that you mentioned don't show up at all in any browser searches. It can't be a single Korean syllable. I guess the mods are masking the details. Please share specific names in PM. My PM is open. Gunmalove is very much up and running. It doesn't have anything along the lines that you are describing in your report.

I am also unable to find any Gunma websites in any of your posts. Either the details have been masked or you haven't provided the specifics.[/QUOTE]You're right, I was able to find gunmalove. I don't know why it didn't show up on my first search. On first look, it seems like an actual massage shop website. As has already been mentioned in previous posts, opgani6 is the best site, but you'll need to be able to register to view the ads. If this is difficult for you, try the site aspot11 or yamap7. These sites don't require registration, but they also don't have quite as many advertisements.

I can see that something strange happened to the Korean. I don't think the site moderator blocked it. The strings of numbers represent the Korean characters and looking at the post history, the same issue happened before to another poster. I tried to repost my previous message below. Let's see if placing spaces between Korean characters is a work around for the issue that caused the Korean characters not to display properly.

There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example 자 스 민 1 인 샵. These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more.

Even some of the ads that show multiple women, don't have any sexual descriptions. I always assumed that these would be waste of time too.

The only Gunma services I've used in the past (the ones where everything is allowed short of vaginal penetration and where everything is done to you while you lay down (as described in my earlier post)) expressly state the services offered on their websites next to the pictures of the women who offer the services. 역 립 (yeoklip) means sucking and licking are involved. I think 부 비 부 비 (booby booby) is self explanatory. 하 비 욧 (hobbyyeot) is non-penetrative sex. 똥 까 시 (Ddonggashi) means she'll lick your asshole. 입 싸 (ipssa) can either mean BJ or cum in mouth (if it's at no extra charge it's just a BJ but if it costs more, it's CIM). And then there's 청 룡 (changryeong), which doesn't have an English translation. It's a bit hard to describe, but it's a BJ where the women sucks your cock going up and down in the normal way, while moving forward and backward (toward you and away from you) so that while your dick is in her mouth her head moves up near your belly button in one moment and then down between your legs in the next. So it's up down up down while she sucks your dick. It creates a unique sensation.

The Gunma I used in the past is called 설 렘 (Sullaem). The women work out of the 선 릉 (Seolleung) area. I feel comfortable recommending this place because the provider who serviced me told me that I was not her only foreign customer. However, keep in mind that she teased me because my Korean was worse than her other foreign customers. So, if your Korean isn't at least conversational, you almost certainly won't get in, but I'll be happy if you prove me wrong. You can find the ad for this particular Gunma on all the websites mentioned in my previous posts.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2656614]

Suwon is gone. Or at least most of it. Construction started and main area was gone. It was the best foreigner spot. Now the other areas are getting more foreigners so maybe those will start to be more excepting.[/QUOTE]Can confirm and second that. Walked thru a couple of months ago and it was completely dead, the girls prob went online, other RLDs, or some miscellaneous places unknown to foreigners for the time being.

Not sure if you guys have been looking at the news in the Philippines. But in my dash to get caught up on all I've missed, I've been lurking in other forums from the surrounding P4 P countries and saw the news that they will be opening up in Feb. The forum says Feb 10 but I've also seen sites say Feb 1. So might want to start planning and reading those other threads, as you can get more for less about 4 hours away. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but please try to keep the prices over there reasonable for everyone upon your arrival LOL.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2656622]Couple of times, find a guy on the street take me inside and show me a menu to choose time and experience. Cost was 130,000, went into room and changed, shower and back to room. Girl came in and massaged and then sex. [/QUOTE]Usually these are more pricey cause the broker gets a finders fee for bringing in business. If you have a preference, you can always ask and they'll try to find what you want in that area. Be nice and polite, these guys are just doing their job. Sometimes I've used them, then remember the place they took me to so I can go back there on my own and save the extra 10 k - 30 k.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2657682]Usually these are more pricey cause the broker gets a finders fee for bringing in business. If you have a preference, you can always ask and they'll try to find what you want in that area. Be nice and polite, these guys are just doing their job. Sometimes I've used them, then remember the place they took me to so I can go back there on my own and save the extra 10 k - 30 k.[/QUOTE]130,000 in Korean won is only about $120 USD. It's fairly cheap. Not expensive at all.

Also Korea has a mandatory ten day quarantine. It will get reduced starting February 4th to seven days, but that's still more time than most people would like to spend.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2656867]Thanks. Sorry to ask more noob questions but I assume 240 is per girl and the 240 includes an in room BJ? FS elsewhere?[/QUOTE]240 is for the girl and the room. If there's more people, they all have to pay 240. Don't know if there's specials if you wanted more than one girl for yourself. The BJ is included with the 240. You're only paying more because of tipping for all the extra food and drinks that you will not use.

The place I went to was actually a hotel in one of the side streets in Yeoksam. The basement was where the magic mirror room was where you choose your girl, along with the noraebang room. Then you go upstairs with the girl you chose to smash. But like I said, their attitudes and service are not that great. But you get to choose the style of girl you want.

The manager was cool though. He recommended girls we shouldn't choose. If there's none that you like, he'll let you wait so more girls arrive. You can also get a Viagra pill if you want.

Establishments like regulars that come often. I'm sure if you become a VIP, the girls will treat you better because of management.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2657542]It seems one of previous posts about 25 posts getting you access to DMs is incorrect. Anyone know what the real number is?[/QUOTE]Still here! Just lurking! Yeah I think it take 6 months and 30 posts to be a senior! Perfect time for the summe to meet and hunt. I've been meeting up with some girls I met from room salons and kissbangs! Been practicing my Korean more often now.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2657563]You're right, I was able to find gunmalove. I don't know why it didn't show up on my first search. On first look, it seems like an actual massage shop website. As has already been mentioned in previous posts, opgani6 is the best site, but you'll need to be able to register to view the ads. If this is difficult for you, try the site aspot11 or yamap7. These sites don't require registration, but they also don't have quite as many advertisements.

I can see that something strange happened to the Korean. I don't think the site moderator blocked it. The strings of numbers represent the Korean characters and looking at the post history, the same issue happened before to another poster. I tried to repost my previous message below. Let's see if placing spaces between Korean characters is a work around for the issue that caused the Korean characters not to display properly.

There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example 자 스 민 1 인 샵. These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more.

Even some of the ads that show multiple women, don't have any sexual descriptions. I always assumed that these would be waste of time too..[/QUOTE]Ah. Yes. These sites I know of. I have tried using them, however these are not foreigner friendly at all. No one responds properly. I tried pinging them on TG and calling them, however they don't entertain foreigners at all. If you know of any contacts that are foreigner friendly please let me know.

I have been reading a lot of the posts here and I am impressed with everyone's experiences.

I too am open to meeting people here on this site. It sounds like a good opportunity. It seems like several people here are active and living in Seoul, which is awesome since I live in Gimpo.

I am most interested in the rooms that people can choose a girl. On Hooker Hill, there's usually only 1-2 girls available at bars where they work at, and they are almost always fat, old, ugly, or a mix of all three.

I kinda wish the old RLDs were around again, where you can walk the streets and see the women sitting behind the store windows. Haeundae had that but then they were all closed down around the time of the 2018 Winter Olympics.

Does the Miari RLD have that as well? I hate having to enter an establishment to see the girls inside. It makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable to say no when there's no girls that interest me.

I know a few websites like city of love and massage republic but those websites don't have many listings available these days. Even when they do, it is mostly foreign women or Korean women who only do outcall service.

I can never find Koreans who do incall. Are the only websites that provide incall those that are targeted towards Korean men? It's a shame that my choices are limited when it comes to Korean women.

I do not want to do outcall service as they always overcharge or require a hotel / motel reservation, which ends up costing even more money. I'd rather not have them come to my home either as my coworkers live on the same floor as me, and it would cause problems saying no when they show up and I find them more unattractive than they were in the pictures. The outcall agencies always end up doing a bait and switch, or they use lot of editing on their photos to make them look better than they really do.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2658495]I know a few websites like city of love and massage republic but those websites don't have many listings available these days. Even when they do, it is mostly foreign women or Korean women who only do outcall service.

I can never find Koreans who do incall. Are the only websites that provide incall those that are targeted towards Korean men? It's a shame that my choices are limited when it comes to Korean women.

I do not want to do outcall service as they always overcharge or require a hotel / motel reservation, which ends up costing even more money. I'd rather not have them come to my home either as my coworkers live on the same floor as me, and it would cause problems saying no when they show up and I find them more unattractive than they were in the pictures. The outcall agencies always end up doing a bait and switch, or they use lot of editing on their photos to make them look better than they really do.[/QUOTE]There are possibly zero incall service for non-Koreans right now. You may possibly get in if you can speak Korean but if they know you're foreigner, they probably won't let you in and it's had to do with your d size at that point. Some repeatable Outcall service may cater to non-Koreans but like you, all pics are photoshopped and they basically just send whoever is available during that time you book. I tried some and I got attractive Korean girls but they cost around 800 k to 1 million won, so it's definitely not economical and I don't recommend it. If you're foreigner, best bet if an ma or kiss bang for now.

Forgot about those RLD stuff, it's so old school.

Thanks for the detailed report. Seems if you understand Korean, most of the advertisements use semi discreet words that are pretty obvious what they're advertising is available.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2657563]You're right, I was able to find gunmalove. I don't know why it didn't show up on my first search. On first look, it seems like an actual massage shop website. As has already been mentioned in previous posts, opgani6 is the best site, but you'll need to be able to register to view the ads. If this is difficult for you, try the site aspot11 or yamap7. These sites don't require registration, but they also don't have quite as many advertisements.

I can see that something strange happened to the Korean. I don't think the site moderator blocked it. The strings of numbers represent the Korean characters and looking at the post history, the same issue happened before to another poster. I tried to repost my previous message below. Let's see if placing spaces between Korean characters is a work around for the issue that caused the Korean characters not to display properly.

There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example 자 스 민 1 인 샵. These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more..[/QUOTE]

Sad to hear that. Suwon had some good looking girls last time I was there.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2657677]Can confirm and second that. Walked thru a couple of months ago and it was completely dead, the girls prob went online, other RLDs, or some miscellaneous places unknown to foreigners for the time being.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure the pi is a better country to monger and is way cheaper. However I prefer the look of Korean or East Asian women more. Not sure about the other guys here.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2657678]Not sure if you guys have been looking at the news in the Philippines. But in my dash to get caught up on all I've missed, I've been lurking in other forums from the surrounding P4 P countries and saw the news that they will be opening up in Feb. The forum says Feb 10 but I've also seen sites say Feb 1. So might want to start planning and reading those other threads, as you can get more for less about 4 hours away. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but please try to keep the prices over there reasonable for everyone upon your arrival LOL.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. Being able to choose the girl is definitely a plus. Do you get FS in the room? Elsewhere? Is that usually extra?

I wish the anmas would let you choose that way. The ones I've been to where you choose are off photos of an iPad that don't really look like the actual girl.

[QUOTE=Venturism;2657745]240 is for the girl and the room. If there's more people, they all have to pay 240. Don't know if there's specials if you wanted more than one girl for yourself. The BJ is included with the 240. You're only paying more because of tipping for all the extra food and drinks that you will not use.

The place I went to was actually a hotel in one of the side streets in Yeoksam. The basement was where the magic mirror room was where you choose your girl, along with the noraebang room. Then you go upstairs with the girl you chose to smash. But like I said, their attitudes and service are not that great. But you get to choose the style of girl you want.

The manager was cool though. He recommended girls we shouldn't choose. If there's none that you like, he'll let you wait so more girls arrive. You can also get a Viagra pill if you want.

Establishments like regulars that come often. I'm sure if you become a VIP, the girls will treat you better because of management.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully you'll have on privileges for when everyone gets together.

Miari is where you have to go into a room. I don't like it either. It feels a bit awkward to go in and they all get ready for you and you just walk out. It's also hard to really see what they look like when they're sitting down with a big flowy dress covering most of their body. I mentioned in a previous post I tried it once and the girl was a lot more fat than she looked sitting down. They also don't really have showers and it's all a lot more run down than other window shops. The girl just wipes you down and it's all very mechanical and business like.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2658135]I have been reading a lot of the posts here and I am impressed with everyone's experiences.

I too am open to meeting people here on this site. It sounds like a good opportunity. It seems like several people here are active and living in Seoul, which is awesome since I live in Gimpo.

I am most interested in the rooms that people can choose a girl. On Hooker Hill, there's usually only 1-2 girls available at bars where they work at, and they are almost always fat, old, ugly, or a mix of all three.

I kinda wish the old RLDs were around again, where you can walk the streets and see the women sitting behind the store windows. Haeundae had that but then they were all closed down around the time of the 2018 Winter Olympics..[/QUOTE]

I've seen several incall sites in full English but the prices seem higher and I can't confirm if the girls look good or not.

They definitely exist. It's been a while since I've searched for those so I don't remember the sites anymore. Perhaps someone else here can share info / experiences.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2658495]I know a few websites like city of love and massage republic but those websites don't have many listings available these days. Even when they do, it is mostly foreign women or Korean women who only do outcall service.

I can never find Koreans who do incall. Are the only websites that provide incall those that are targeted towards Korean men? It's a shame that my choices are limited when it comes to Korean women.

I do not want to do outcall service as they always overcharge or require a hotel / motel reservation, which ends up costing even more money. I'd rather not have them come to my home either as my coworkers live on the same floor as me, and it would cause problems saying no when they show up and I find them more unattractive than they were in the pictures. The outcall agencies always end up doing a bait and switch, or they use lot of editing on their photos to make them look better than they really do.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. I didn't see this when writing my last post. 800 is ridiculous. Anmas would be a better choice. Personally I like kiss bangs but it's hit or miss. Not all girls offer a full menu. I like them mostly cause the girls are almost always young and attractive and there's a little excitement in not knowing what you can get and from girls that are not really pros.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2658672]There are possibly zero incall service for non-Koreans right now. You may possibly get in if you can speak Korean but if they know you're foreigner, they probably won't let you in and it's had to do with your d size at that point. Some repeatable Outcall service may cater to non-Koreans but like you, all pics are photoshopped and they basically just send whoever is available during that time you book. I tried some and I got attractive Korean girls but they cost around 800 k to 1 million won, so it's definitely not economical and I don't recommend it. If you're foreigner, best bet if an ma or kiss bang for now.

Forgot about those RLD stuff, it's so old school.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2658734]Thanks for the info. I didn't see this when writing my last post. 800 is ridiculous. Anmas would be a better choice. Personally I like kiss bangs but it's hit or miss. Not all girls offer a full menu. I like them mostly cause the girls are almost always young and attractive and there's a little excitement in not knowing what you can get and from girls that are not really pros.[/QUOTE]Seems like kiss bangs are not that easy though. 1. You don't know what you're going to get and the way things work out for foreigners here, most likely more negative than positive unless you're korean.

2. Also seems like you got to do a lot of talking and persuading in a foreign language just to get some action. Almost trying to beg a hesitant GF to do something LOL.

May I ask how you accessed, cz I found it on one of the sites you recommended, messaged the telegram contact by asking whether they service foreigners, moreover in my pure Korean (I'm pretty Advanced in the language) only to be replied in English with "Sorry, only Korean men". Probably they No longer receive foreigners or they never did and you were lucky then bt it ain't a big deal as this is a dejavu for any foreigner here hahah.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2657563]You're right, I was able to find gunmalove. I don't know why it didn't show up on my first search. On first look, it seems like an actual massage shop website. As has already been mentioned in previous posts, opgani6 is the best site, but you'll need to be able to register to view the ads. If this is difficult for you, try the site aspot11 or yamap7. These sites don't require registration, but they also don't have quite as many advertisements.

I can see that something strange happened to the Korean. I don't think the site moderator blocked it. The strings of numbers represent the Korean characters and looking at the post history, the same issue happened before to another poster. I tried to repost my previous message below. Let's see if placing spaces between Korean characters is a work around for the issue that caused the Korean characters not to display properly.

There are a lot of these one woman shops that follow the same naming convention, I. E. 'girl's name + 1 woman shop', for example 자 스 민 1 인 샵. These types of ads live on the Gunma listings, but if you can read the Korean, you will notice that they aren't overtly sexual. Therefore, I've never used their services. They only explicitly state massage, and I tend to be looking for more..[/QUOTE]

Miari service is so mechanical with average looking girls. In fact self-gratification would prove to be a better a better option. Having to enter the room, the ajjumah closes the door only to look and get disappointed. And girls keep on complaining about the foreigners' size full time. Total turn off. Miss Suwon Indeed.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2656865]I agree cheonho was pretty good. I'm sad to hear it's closed. Suwon had some pretty attractive girls last time I went. However, I didn't like miari. Having to go into the rooms to look is kind of troublesome and the girls weren't very attractive and I finally chose one that looked good but once she stood up and got in the room she was much heavier than she looked sitting down with her dress covering her body. Since I was already in the room and paid I figure there's no going back so just went with it. Never went back.[/QUOTE]

I have discovered that there's an unlimited number of anmas, kissbangs, officetells, Ugetells that offer full service in almost any Korean district (you can see this on a number of Korean adult sites). But most of these cater to only Korean men. Itaewon being a populous district too should at least have some of these establishment besides hooker hill (wc is dead BTW). Anyone here who recently visited or knows some of these establishments in Itaewon? You should let us know. I figured if they do exist in Itaewon definitely they should be foreigner friendly or something compared to Gangnam, Hongdae.

It's hard to find girls that want to fuck foreigners these days. As I mentioned before, the girls who fuck foreigners are either foreigners themselves, or only do outcall to your home (some even require you to make a hotel reservation). They are also all catfishes so you never know who you're going to get.

I'm trying to find a place where I can go directly and fuck. Hooker hill isn't the best place since the women there are aging rapidly, are fat, and even have lots of plastic surgery.

The 9 pm indoor curfews are also hurting businesses. I don't believe the Itaewon locations stay open passed 9 pm due to the omicron regulations.

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[QUOTE=Charles96;2659119]I have discovered that there's an unlimited number of anmas, kissbangs, officetells, Ugetells that offer full service in almost any Korean district (you can see this on a number of Korean adult sites). But most of these cater to only Korean men. Itaewon being a populous district too should at least have some of these establishment besides hooker hill (wc is dead BTW). Anyone here who recently visited or knows some of these establishments in Itaewon? You should let us know. I figured if they do exist in Itaewon definitely they should be foreigner friendly or something compared to Gangnam, Hongdae.[/QUOTE]I would love to explore Itaewon with you if you are down. I too am curious what is still available for foreigners in Itaewon. I'm super curious about how things are in 2022.

I am under the assumption you are born in 1996 based on your name. I'm from 1997 so we're pretty much the same in terms of age.

I agree with you, massage republic and city of love are full of foreign women. They aren't regularly updated and you would be lucky to find a mongable Korean chick. I tried message republic 2 times bt once I hit a miss with a Korean who despite being young didn't look attractive to me at all unlike her pictures. And the only time I actually got something out if it was when I chose a Russian.

Bt The prices of these outcalls are over hiked man, the cheapest is 300 won an HR plus the hustle of booking a hotel reservation and stuff. You know, If I reserve just to monger, by the time you come through the next day I already lost interest haha. I have had some luck with Korean-oriented services tho only outcall as it's pretty cheap compared to Foreign-oriented outcall agencies. For Korean men Incall even starts at 80,000 an hour and outcall can go as low as 100,000 150,000. Even 30-40 minutes rates do exist.

I would telegram many and ask if foreigners get serviced. Of course many don't even reply or reply with a flat out no, others could consider you only when you're an Asian foreigner wc I'm not. Bt one time with luck, I landed on a beauty of a life time. The agency didn't care whether you're a foreigner or not. Her name was Ujin, she was so pretty, friendly and same age as mine. Unlike many Koreans who just lye down in bed she knew all the bed tricks and didn't hesitate. I thought I could become a regular first then later ask for her contact for side arrangements but unfortunately I never saw her again. Few weeks and her picture disappeared from their advert and the boss told me she's resting for a bit but later the business too pulled down all their adverts from all Korean sites I knew and disappeared. It's only in Korea where as a foreigner even when you have your money you still can't monger hahah.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2658495]I know a few websites like city of love and massage republic but those websites don't have many listings available these days. Even when they do, it is mostly foreign women or Korean women who only do outcall service.

I can never find Koreans who do incall. Are the only websites that provide incall those that are targeted towards Korean men? It's a shame that my choices are limited when it comes to Korean women.

I do not want to do outcall service as they always overcharge or require a hotel / motel reservation, which ends up costing even more money. I'd rather not have them come to my home either as my coworkers live on the same floor as me, and it would cause problems saying no when they show up and I find them more unattractive than they were in the pictures. The outcall agencies always end up doing a bait and switch, or they use lot of editing on their photos to make them look better than they really do.[/QUOTE]

That would've been cool unfortunately my weekends these days are pretty packed. I would love to explore other options in Itaewon (if they even do exist) bt no hooker hill as I've been there for a check several times bt nothing new each time.

There was a bar last year (at the beginning of the hill on the right hand side near 7 / 11) Now that one had some pretty looking ladies (tho somehow older) but last time I visited towards the end of last year it had closed. I don't know whether it was corona or something. Bt it seemed to have closed permanently. Up the hill is just some 2 or 3 unattractive, ugly, fat women left (apparently they've been there for quite long now according to some posts on this forum).

Bt if you do get some info or happen to explore with some members here I hope you update us on our options that side.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2659270]I would love to explore Itaewon with you if you are down. I too am curious what is still available for foreigners in Itaewon. I'm super curious about how things are in 2022.

I am under the assumption you are born in 1996 based on your name. I'm from 1997 so we're pretty much the same in terms of age.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles96;2659107]May I ask how you accessed, cz I found it on one of the sites you recommended, messaged the telegram contact by asking whether they service foreigners, moreover in my pure Korean (I'm pretty Advanced in the language) only to be replied in English with "Sorry, only Korean men". Probably they No longer receive foreigners or they never did and you were lucky then bt it ain't a big deal as this is a dejavu for any foreigner here hahah.[/QUOTE]That is definitely true. 99% of them don't accept foreigners. There might be an odd ball who may accept. Not sure how to find those odd balls.

If someone has contacts of these guys who accept foreigners, please send PM. My PM is open.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2659119]I have discovered that there's an unlimited number of anmas, kissbangs, officetells, Ugetells that offer full service in almost any Korean district (you can see this on a number of Korean adult sites). But most of these cater to only Korean men. Itaewon being a populous district too should at least have some of these establishment besides hooker hill (wc is dead BTW). Anyone here who recently visited or knows some of these establishments in Itaewon? You should let us know. I figured if they do exist in Itaewon definitely they should be foreigner friendly or something compared to Gangnam, Hongdae.[/QUOTE]Castle and gold Anmas accept foreigners. I can refer. Please send me a PM.

Tried a Russian from Opgani. Only one of them accepted a foreigner. The setup was fine. The SP was ok and he mentioned all the dos and donts well. Paid 150 k for a one hour one shot session. The session started off on a very negative note. The provider was just ok. She was ok but not at all like the adverts up on the site. She was behaving very aggressively initially calling out what's included and what's not. What to do and what not to do. Not sure how her previous experience had been with foreigners. But over the session, things got much better. She allowed a lot more and initiated sessions that she herself had excluded and by the end it was overall a decent experience albeit with a very bad start.

PM me if anyone wants the contact details and a reference. It is definitely a difficult place to monger if you are not a Korean.

Wait! I had never heard of Gold bt you're saying Castle is still in existence? I heard many good stories about Castle and last year I went to check it out only to find out the building was even demolished and as if some kind of construction was happening there. You're saying it moved it's location or something?

BTW I would love the reference bt I need to buy membership first and trading with btc in Korea just became another hustle recently with Gopax (Only one that allowed foreigners to trade crypto with krw) out of the KRW-BTC exchange game now.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2659476]Castle and gold Anmas accept foreigners. I can refer. Please send me a PM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2659246]It's hard to find girls that want to fuck foreigners these days. As I mentioned before, the girls who fuck foreigners are either foreigners themselves, or only do outcall to your home (some even require you to make a hotel reservation). They are also all catfishes so you never know who you're going to get.

I'm trying to find a place where I can go directly and fuck. Hooker hill isn't the best place since the women there are aging rapidly, are fat, and even have lots of plastic surgery.

The 9 pm indoor curfews are also hurting businesses. I don't believe the Itaewon locations stay open passed 9 pm due to the omicron regulations.[/QUOTE]You should just go to YGD RLD and see if any of the girls there will service you! And let us know how it went.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2659246]It's hard to find girls that want to fuck foreigners these days. As I mentioned before, the girls who fuck foreigners are either foreigners themselves, or only do outcall to your home (some even require you to make a hotel reservation). They are also all catfishes so you never know who you're going to get.

I'm trying to find a place where I can go directly and fuck. Hooker hill isn't the best place since the women there are aging rapidly, are fat, and even have lots of plastic surgery.

The 9 pm indoor curfews are also hurting businesses. I don't believe the Itaewon locations stay open passed 9 pm due to the omicron regulations.[/QUOTE]Good to know about the 9 pm curfew. I'm scheduled to fly to Korea in April and all I want to do is creampie Bean and Kaye (like I've always done), but that will definitely sway my decision if everything shuts down at 9:00 pm. I'm hoping the 7 day quarantine is over before then, too.

Separately, you were born in 1997 and I was fucking on Hooker Hill in 2000 when you were three. In fact, there was a girl that I creampied that used to work at the old 'Amazon' club whose coworker was murdered by some GI from Paju. I've been fucking Bean and Kaye since 2006, so they're definitely seasoned if that's your taste. You should give them a young dickdown just for fucking sake.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2659533]Wait! I had never heard of Gold bt you're saying Castle is still in existence? I heard many good stories about Castle and last year I went to check it out only to find out the building was even demolished and as if some kind of construction was happening there. You're saying it moved it's location or something?

BTW I would love the reference bt I need to buy membership first and trading with btc in Korea just became another hustle recently with Gopax (Only one that allowed foreigners to trade crypto with krw) out of the KRW-BTC exchange game now.[/QUOTE]Castle is very much open. PM me and I can share the details.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2649682]You can do it in the kiss room itself. Yeah it's not the most Romantic or comfortable thing, it's more like a quickie than anything. You don't shower or anything. You can use some wet wipes to wipe yourself and her down. You can ask for their kakao if you want to meet at motels from time to time if you want. You will need to talk to them about that and arrange it. If they like you they definitely will do that.[/QUOTE]Where do I find the kiss places? I'm guessing only Seoul area? I'm in pyeongtaek area.

[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2647804]I had some matches on meeeff and they give me a kakao ID. Then they message me only in hungul, no English. Saying meet for 3 hrs for 1.5 roses. They say send picture of hotel key tell room number and hotel name. Are these scams? Donut eaters? Or legit?

Any advice or recommendations for meeting outcall girls? Please PM with any recommendations. Thanks.

I did quite a bit of mongering in Hawaii, so let me know if you need any advice for back there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]As a follow up to this question, I was told for outcall you have to pay a deposit and girl returns at end of session. Is this a scam?

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2659759]Good to know about the 9 pm curfew. I'm scheduled to fly to Korea in April and all I want to do is creampie Bean and Kaye (like I've always done), but that will definitely sway my decision if everything shuts down at 9:00 pm. I'm hoping the 7 day quarantine is over before then, too.

Separately, you were born in 1997 and I was fucking on Hooker Hill in 2000 when you were three. In fact, there was a girl that I creampied that used to work at the old 'Amazon' club whose coworker was murdered by some GI from Paju. I've been fucking Bean and Kaye since 2006, so they're definitely seasoned if that's your taste. You should give them a young dickdown just for fucking sake.[/QUOTE]Good sir, could you please PM with info about these two ladies. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2659107]May I ask how you accessed, cz I found it on one of the sites you recommended, messaged the telegram contact by asking whether they service foreigners, moreover in my pure Korean (I'm pretty Advanced in the language) only to be replied in English with "Sorry, only Korean men". Probably they No longer receive foreigners or they never did and you were lucky then bt it ain't a big deal as this is a dejavu for any foreigner here hahah.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to to keep contacting different advertisers. Contact as many as you can.

Also, some businesses simply do not respond to text messages from unknown numbers. Therefore, you will be better off following up and calling to make your inquiry. If they don't immediately deny you, you can then ask if they are willing to continue communicating through text.

I probably contacted more than 50 Hyugetels and Gunmas this way before I was allowed entrance to the first of them. Since then, I have been to five different places, but I've become a regular at just two of them (the two that offered the best service). Just keep at it and persist. Eventually, you'll find a place willing to accommodate you.

Went toward city hall. Followed the directions towards healing Thai. Don't think that's operational now. Been replaced by K massage which is a completely legit setup.

Any good recommendations on places that provide a good massage with extras?

[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2660360]Good sir, could you please PM with info about these two ladies. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Sure. They've been discussed quite a bit on here in the past. They work (ed) at the bar beside of the Grand Ole Opry the last time I saw them in December 2019.

Bean is the short one with a cute face (similar to Park So Dam of 'Parasite'), has a sun tattoo on her navel, and has huge hips and a big booty; a real anomaly in Korea. The last time I saw her, she started putting on weight and was not clean shaven anymore, so it was a bit of a turnoff.

Kaye is the taller Amazon one with the huge tits (not the fat one whose name is Candy). She's a real sweetheart and would usually work on weekends or so.

Maybe someone on here can provide an update, since it's been over two years from the last time I saw either one. They are, after all, about the only reason I want to travel to Korea.

I'll PM you with more details on my experience.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2661168]Went toward city hall. Followed the directions towards healing Thai. Don't think that's operational now. Been replaced by K massage which is a completely legit setup.

Any good recommendations on places that provide a good massage with extras?[/QUOTE]They are two different places. K Massage is on the 2nd floor right behind the Plaza Hotels on a 4 lane road [URL]http://kko.to/BYV_zd-dT[/URL].

But Healing Thai is down a dark alley so narrow a car will not fit [URL]http://kko.to/gKsQ277fH[/URL].

I haven't been to Healing Thai recently but soon I will check it out again.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2659432]That would've been cool unfortunately my weekends these days are pretty packed. I would love to explore other options in Itaewon (if they even do exist) bt no hooker hill as I've been there for a check several times bt nothing new each time.

There was a bar last year (at the beginning of the hill on the right hand side near 7 / 11) Now that one had some pretty looking ladies (tho somehow older) but last time I visited towards the end of last year it had closed. I don't know whether it was corona or something. Bt it seemed to have closed permanently. Up the hill is just some 2 or 3 unattractive, ugly, fat women left (apparently they've been there for quite long now according to some posts on this forum).

Bt if you do get some info or happen to explore with some members here I hope you update us on our options that side.[/QUOTE]Yes, the Hill is a sad rendition of what it once was. There are a few choices up near the top, across from where Polly's Kettle used to be (old-timers would remember that place, but I think it's a yogurt storage area with a gate in front, now). Kaye and Beane are / were up there. I haven't see Kaye around in a while (haven't been there much) but she would be my choice. I also know that Candy is down before the Hill, across the street. Not sure if the best one is still working up at Pandora or not (she's pretty random). It's interesting to see that back page 2 is now online, as of January. You can search for it and find it. It would be good to see girls figure that out, so spread the word. There is also a short gal or two who work up on the Hill in the bars just down from where Kaye and Beane work.

Where you have to pay a deposit is a real scam. Be careful buddy, you might never see the girl. (Korean sites talk about it a lot advising guys to avoid deposits and stuff).

[QUOTE=Pattysmitty88;2660264]As a follow up to this question, I was told for outcall you have to pay a deposit and girl returns at end of session. Is this a scam?[/QUOTE]

Deposits are illegal so no one would want that in Korea. The government is allowed to look through credit transactions and deposits in Korea, and since prostitution is illegal in Korea this is a big no no. The only women who do accept credit cards are the ones working at the bars, since they can legally operate as a bar and have business licenses for that. Escorts do not.

It has been sometime since I posted.

Found a couple Hugetels on Opgami that serviced Americans. They both asked my size so in the interest of not scaring them make sure you self yourself a little short if you know what I mean. Both were in Dongdaemun. Both girls were Thai and of course I was polite made it enjoyable for them and now see them outside the shops before they work or on their holiday.

In Mapo check out the store on the second floor next to the gas station on the main road she rotates girls and each time the girl has offered extra FS between 80 k and 100 k. Massages are usually good and the FS has been decent each time. In Yongsan there is a traditional Korean massage that allows foreigners near the electronics mart. 80 k for a traditional Korean massage and service. They provide service the old fashioned way. Climbing on top like they are riding you but use their hand and some type of warming lotion. Its not bad.

Keep on mongering my good men.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2662206]Yes, the Hill is a sad rendition of what it once was. There are a few choices up near the top, across from where Polly's Kettle used to be (old-timers would remember that place, but I think it's a yogurt storage area with a gate in front, now). Kaye and Beane are / were up there. I haven't see Kaye around in a while (haven't been there much) but she would be my choice. I also know that Candy is down before the Hill, across the street. Not sure if the best one is still working up at Pandora or not (she's pretty random). It's interesting to see that back page 2 is now online, as of January. You can search for it and find it. It would be good to see girls figure that out, so spread the word. There is also a short gal or two who work up on the Hill in the bars just down from where Kaye and Beane work.[/QUOTE]Good to hear about Kay and Bean, sad to hear about the hill, but nothing lasts forever.

Cherry is the big tit girl who worked in the bar with Kay and Bean. I said 'Candy' before, but I was incorrect. Candy used to work at the bottom of the hill across the street at the Tiffany Bar. She's fun, too, but is getting worn with time. They've all been at this racket for 10+ years and it shows.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2662940]It has been sometime since I posted.

Found a couple Hugetels on Opgami that serviced Americans. They both asked my size so in the interest of not scaring them make sure you self yourself a little short if you know what I mean. Both were in Dongdaemun. Both girls were Thai and of course I was polite made it enjoyable for them and now see them outside the shops before they work or on their holiday.

In Mapo check out the store on the second floor next to the gas station on the main road she rotates girls and each time the girl has offered extra FS between 80 k and 100 k. Massages are usually good and the FS has been decent each time. In Yongsan there is a traditional Korean massage that allows foreigners near the electronics mart. 80 k for a traditional Korean massage and service. They provide service the old fashioned way. Climbing on top like they are riding you but use their hand and some type of warming lotion. Its not bad.

Keep on mongering my good men.[/QUOTE]Bro,

Can you share the details, I have sent you a PM.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2662940]
In Mapo check out the store on the second floor next to the gas station on the main road she rotates girls and each time the girl has offered extra FS between 80 k and 100 k. Massages are usually good and the FS has been decent each time.[/QUOTE]I've recently been back to this place a few times too, can confirm it's been worth it. Massages have been good and girls haven't beed bad either, in looks or attitude. Much improved from when I had been there before (maybe a year ago? Check post history).

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2662940]It has been sometime since I posted.

Found a couple Hugetels on Opgami that serviced Americans. They both asked my size so in the interest of not scaring them make sure you self yourself a little short if you know what I mean. Both were in Dongdaemun. Both girls were Thai and of course I was polite made it enjoyable for them and now see them outside the shops before they work or on their holiday.

In Mapo check out the store on the second floor next to the gas station on the main road she rotates girls and each time the girl has offered extra FS between 80 k and 100 k. Massages are usually good and the FS has been decent each time. In Yongsan there is a traditional Korean massage that allows foreigners near the electronics mart. 80 k for a traditional Korean massage and service. They provide service the old fashioned way. Climbing on top like they are riding you but use their hand and some type of warming lotion. Its not bad.

Keep on mongering my good men.[/QUOTE]You aren't really being specific enough so I am confused. What train station is closest to the "Mapo" location and what station is closest to the "Yongsan" location? Mapo and Yongsan are huge.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2664878]You aren't really being specific enough so I am confused. What train station is closest to the "Mapo" location and what station is closest to the "Yongsan" location? Mapo and Yongsan are huge.[/QUOTE]That would be Mapo station and Yongsan station. For Yongsan go towards the electronics mart " I was specific in that" and Mapo pretty specific with the SK gas station on the main road.

I do not have the address you will have to find that yourself.

40 k is the basic cost for one hour of thai massage.

[URL]http://kko.to/TUu-03u4j[/URL] Third or fourth floor of this building.

2 or 3 Thai women work there. Extra "service" is to be negotiated in the room on a case by case basis. The first time I visited last fall I paid 50 k for all nude happy ending with roaming. But when I went recently it was a different SP and "service" was not on the menu. But it was a good solid massage that lasted over an hour, so for 40 k I didn't complain.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2665082]That would be Mapo station and Yongsan station. For Yongsan go towards the electronics mart " I was specific in that" and Mapo pretty specific with the SK gas station on the main road.

I do not have the address you will have to find that yourself.[/QUOTE]Is this the place up on the 3rd floor? [URL]http://kko.to/EE15a3ufT[/URL].

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2662940]It has been sometime since I posted.

Found a couple Hugetels on Opgami that serviced Americans. They both asked my size so in the interest of not scaring them make sure you self yourself a little short if you know what I mean. Both were in Dongdaemun. Both girls were Thai and of course I was polite made it enjoyable for them and now see them outside the shops before they work or on their holiday.

In Mapo check out the store on the second floor next to the gas station on the main road she rotates girls and each time the girl has offered extra FS between 80 k and 100 k. Massages are usually good and the FS has been decent each time. In Yongsan there is a traditional Korean massage that allows foreigners near the electronics mart. 80 k for a traditional Korean massage and service. They provide service the old fashioned way. Climbing on top like they are riding you but use their hand and some type of warming lotion. Its not bad.

Keep on mongering my good men.[/QUOTE]This is exactly right. I've used the Hyugetels in the Dongdaemun area quite a few times.

As you mentioned, a few of the Thai ladies were keen to swap contact info. Most of the ladies work 2-4 week stints before moving to another Hyugetel or massage parlor, and thus they would love to keep regular customers on the side to boost their income.

However, being married, I err on the side of caution and keep my contact details private. Part of what I'm paying for is discretion, and no matter how much I trust some of the ladies I've met, if they called or texted and my wife got wind of it, I would have no excuses.

Also, I wouldn't want to deal with making a reservation to meet up with the added issue of booking a love motel. I appreciate that the Hyugetels supply the venue and the ladies. It makes my life much easier.

However, I am curious how much of a discount the ladies give you for meeting outside of working hours. Or do they like you enough that they put out for the price of a date, I. E. You buy dinner and drinks, they spend the night at your place afterwards?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2657879]Still here! Just lurking! Yeah I think it take 6 months and 30 posts to be a senior! Perfect time for the summe to meet and hunt. I've been meeting up with some girls I met from room salons and kissbangs! Been practicing my Korean more often now.[/QUOTE]Same here! Been lurking every now and then and going to hyugetels in the meantime. Hoping to check back with you in the summer haha!

And I have been asking around but some places that I have gone to before will allow foreigners if I can vouch / go together so got you covered.

I have realized though that Russian hyugetels services are a huge hit or miss. Not to mention pricier too!

On a side note, RDL are dead with covid and previous crackdowns on these districts. The "meta" or trend is changing.

The new age is to get online and monger that way. There are previous guides written a few pages back by me and a few others if you'd like more details.

But the TDLR version is that you need to speak Korean, have a Korean phone number, and be Korean or have someone who is Korean that can vouch / go with you.

I know it sucks but this is just the way it is in Korea at the moment: see.

Also, gunmas in my opinion are not worth it, as for the same price or cheaper you can get FS and multiple shots as well.

Cheers and stay safe all!

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2659759]Good to know about the 9 pm curfew. I'm scheduled to fly to Korea in April and all I want to do is creampie Bean and Kaye (like I've always done), but that will definitely sway my decision if everything shuts down at 9:00 pm. I'm hoping the 7 day quarantine is over before then, too.

Separately, you were born in 1997 and I was fucking on Hooker Hill in 2000 when you were three. In fact, there was a girl that I creampied that used to work at the old 'Amazon' club whose coworker was murdered by some GI from Paju. I've been fucking Bean and Kaye since 2006, so they're definitely seasoned if that's your taste. You should give them a young dickdown just for fucking sake.[/QUOTE]Curfew has been extended to 10 pm, hope that helps haha.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2665848]Curfew has been extended to 10 pm, hope that helps haha.[/QUOTE]Hi Taco Yaki bro,

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[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2639654]Oh I see and my bad! First time posting and did not know that DM's required more of a membership / active status.

Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?

Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

I am interested.

I will be going to Seoul soon. Is there any way to contact you?

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2658672]There are possibly zero incall service for non-Koreans right now. You may possibly get in if you can speak Korean but if they know you're foreigner, they probably won't let you in and it's had to do with your d size at that point. Some repeatable Outcall service may cater to non-Koreans but like you, all pics are photoshopped and they basically just send whoever is available during that time you book. I tried some and I got attractive Korean girls but they cost around 800 k to 1 million won, so it's definitely not economical and I don't recommend it. If you're foreigner, best bet if an ma or kiss bang for now.

Forgot about those RLD stuff, it's so old school.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Which website outcalls the gal that cost 800 k to 1 mil? I'm able to outcall to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Roxas;2666179]Hi bro,

Which website outcalls the gal that cost 800 k to 1 mil? I'm able to outcall to my hotel.[/QUOTE]If your dumb enough to pay 1 mil for subpar night then they all the sites with do outcall LOL.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2665848]Curfew has been extended to 10 pm, hope that helps haha.[/QUOTE]Every minute helps, all I need is 30 seconds.

But seriously, nothing will change until after the elections, then hopefully the quarantine restriction will be lifted. Japan and Australia have already loosened theirs, we'll see about Korea.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2666492]If your dumb enough to pay 1 mil for subpar night then they all the sites with do outcall LOL.[/QUOTE]I misphrased. I meant those elite ones.

[QUOTE=Roxas;2666644]I misphrased. I meant those elite ones.[/QUOTE]There are no elite girls for 1 mil LOL.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2665846]On a side note, RDL are dead with covid and previous crackdowns on these districts. The "meta" or trend is changing.

The new age is to get online and monger that way. There are previous guides written a few pages back by me and a few others if you'd like more details.

But the TDLR version is that you need to speak Korean, have a Korean phone number, and be Korean or have someone who is Korean that can vouch / go with you.

I know it sucks but this is just the way it is in Korea at the moment: see.

Also, gunmas in my opinion are not worth it, as for the same price or cheaper you can get FS and multiple shots as well.

Cheers and stay safe all![/QUOTE]RLDs are not dead yet. YDP is trying to be less obvious so might be closed but it was open a couple weeks ago with lights lowered and people keeping an eye out. Others in the past month that were also open and with less traffic, the girls have been a little more open to foreigners. Yes, the odds are 1 in 15 but RLDs don't have scheduling times and are quick in and out. It is also the main place a foreigner has access to Korean girls. My contacts from RLD girls say they prefer it. They mentioned Hugtels get raided often and could better control hours.

Being foreigner is the biggest roadblock. There are so many apps for translation now that not speaking the language has not been much of an issue. Some girls I visited using OPGA also did not speak Korean. Some ads even stated if the girl could or not. Being a foreigner is difficult. I have actually gone through all the steps and gotten into the room only to have the girl change her mind or not understand how foreign I was. And size was not the issue. It is the rumors that foreigners are full of STDs, too big, too rough, too whatever. Even my GF wanted me to get tested because of the rumors and had crazy questions about cultural differences. She was not the only one I heard it from.

I am trying to be a good example and give as many of the girls a good taste of foreigner experience. (wink).

I have a few contacts from the hugtels and want to meet one outside work because the new place she went to does not respond to foreigners.

Is it cheaper to meet outside? More pops? Better experience? I know a lot of rookie questions but I am trying not to turn a hugtel connection into a sugar baby.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2665830]This is exactly right. I've used the Hyugetels in the Dongdaemun area quite a few times.

As you mentioned, a few of the Thai ladies were keen to swap contact info. Most of the ladies work 2-4 week stints before moving to another Hyugetel or massage parlor, and thus they would love to keep regular customers on the side to boost their income.

However, being married, I err on the side of caution and keep my contact details private. Part of what I'm paying for is discretion, and no matter how much I trust some of the ladies I've met, if they called or texted and my wife got wind of it, I would have no excuses.

Also, I wouldn't want to deal with making a reservation to meet up with the added issue of booking a love motel. I appreciate that the Hyugetels supply the venue and the ladies. It makes my life much easier.

However, I am curious how much of a discount the ladies give you for meeting outside of working hours. Or do they like you enough that they put out for the price of a date, I. E. You buy dinner and drinks, they spend the night at your place afterwards?[/QUOTE]Well brother what I do is install Line on the way to work and uninstall that on the way home to hit the my contact with the girls. As far as price honestly they enjoy the company of being pampered with food and some BFE as much as I do. I have even had a few refuse to accept any cash I give them at the end of meeting. The most I have ever gave a girl after spending a few hours together with at least 3 or 4 pops is 100 bucks.

These girls are treated like shit or like just a wet hole by the natives so the enjoy someone actually talking to them showing a little chivalry.

You are correct when they move they always tell me and ask me to swing by once. I think its so they new boss sees they are an earner.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2667211]RLDs are not dead yet. YDP is trying to be less obvious so might be closed but it was open a couple weeks ago with lights lowered and people keeping an eye out. Others in the past month that were also open and with less traffic, the girls have been a little more open to foreigners. Yes, the odds are 1 in 15 but RLDs don't have scheduling times and are quick in and out. It is also the main place a foreigner has access to Korean girls. My contacts from RLD girls say they prefer it. They mentioned Hugtels get raided often and could better control hours.

Being foreigner is the biggest roadblock. There are so many apps for translation now that not speaking the language has not been much of an issue. Some girls I visited using OPGA also did not speak Korean. Some ads even stated if the girl could or not. Being a foreigner is difficult. I have actually gone through all the steps and gotten into the room only to have the girl change her mind or not understand how foreign I was. And size was not the issue. It is the rumors that foreigners are full of STDs, too big, too rough, too whatever. Even my GF wanted me to get tested because of the rumors and had crazy questions about cultural differences. She was not the only one I heard it from.

I am trying to be a good example and give as many of the girls a good taste of foreigner experience. (wink).[/QUOTE]Do you have any recent reviews for YDP? I heard they are not open during the day why is that?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2665845]

I have realized though that Russian hyugetels services are a huge hit or miss. Not to mention pricier too![/QUOTE]I can second that, went with a Korean co-worker recently and the girl I got was +20 lbs ago than the picture we saw on the site we all know (approx. 40 kg, got to get with the local measurements LOL). We used an app to communicate, and although she was very nice and accomadating with me, I had a real hard time finishing with her. My friend had a terrible experience with his girl, she was complaining and was not providing good customer service. Knowing this guy, I can vouch cause he's not the usual Korean who is rude to the ladies. I've heard mention of kiss bangs, that will be my next adventure. See if I can pull some Kakaos and meet them outside like the other bros on here.

[QUOTE=Roxas;2666179]Hi bro,

Which website outcalls the gal that cost 800 k to 1 mil? I'm able to outcall to my hotel.[/QUOTE]If you have that much money to burn, then share some with the bros on here LOL pay for a round of KTVs. I kid, I kid, but seriously if you can spend that much normally then best advise I can offer is befriend some korean men. Ones that are into the same hobby, pay for the 1st outing together at a good place and they will ensure you are taken care of at other places. Make sure they can pay for themselves later, you just help them out with the first one, then they might pay the next one, and soon a bond will be formed. In fact over 40% of Korean men have used mongering services, so chances of finding a Korean friend with similar interests is pretty high. No disrespect, and far be it from me to tell you how to spend your money. But if you can spend that much, there's also sugar babies or escorts who will do alot for about 200 K WON. So you have far more options and outlets than the rest of us out here ballin' on a budget.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2668399]If you have that much money to burn, then share some with the bros on here LOL pay for a round of KTVs. I kid, I kid, but seriously if you can spend that much normally then best advise I can offer is befriend some korean men. Ones that are into the same hobby, pay for the 1st outing together at a good place and they will ensure you are taken care of at other places. Make sure they can pay for themselves later, you just help them out with the first one, then they might pay the next one, and soon a bond will be formed. In fact over 40% of Korean men have used mongering services, so chances of finding a Korean friend with similar interests is pretty high. No disrespect, and far be it from me to tell you how to spend your money. But if you can spend that much, there's also sugar babies or escorts who will do alot for about 200 K WON. So you have far more options and outlets than the rest of us out here ballin' on a budget.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

I'm interested in your idea. Anyway to contact you?

Also are you in Seoul now? I'm going to Seoul soon.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2667463]Well brother what I do is install Line on the way to work and uninstall that on the way home to hit the my contact with the girls. As far as price honestly they enjoy the company of being pampered with food and some BFE as much as I do. I have even had a few refuse to accept any cash I give them at the end of meeting. The most I have ever gave a girl after spending a few hours together with at least 3 or 4 pops is 100 bucks.

These girls are treated like shit or like just a wet hole by the natives so the enjoy someone actually talking to them showing a little chivalry.

You are correct when they move they always tell me and ask me to swing by once. I think its so they new boss sees they are an earner.[/QUOTE]Good tips and awesome to hear it worked out for you!

But of course as always, for others who are trying to attempt this, do be careful and try to become kind of a regular or friendly before trying this out. I know at most Hyugetels / OPs if you're caught doing this, you'll be blacklisted. Though I'm sure the chances of the girls snitching are super low!

For me personally, I would rather pay than give up my time for BFE as most times I'm just looking for a quick release!

I respect the hustle!

[QUOTE=Roxas;2668671]Hi bro,

I'm interested in your idea. Anyway to contact you?

Also are you in Seoul now? I'm going to Seoul soon.[/QUOTE]Roxas, the only want to message people on this site is 1. Become a premium member by paying via bitcoin or 2. Be a senior member with an active account for over 6 months.

Cheers and best of luck to your travels.

Went to a lip cafe in Gangnam over the weekend and had a blast! This is my quick review .

Called and scheduled an appointment for the afternoon.

The service I requested was a relay course (one shot with one girl, then one shot with another) 20 minutes each. Touching / licking allowed with clothes off, but no penetration. I also got to select the girls after looking at their menu online.

Received a text of the address. Arrived and showered, then relaxed in the waiting room having some mixed coffee when the manager told me my room was ready.

Entered a room where I was greeted by my first choice. She had decent looking be cups and was on the bit of the older side of lip cafes (she said she was 27). Wasn't the most glamorous but her lips skills were amazing. Your mileage with girls will differ but she was the store's ace and rightly so. She started off my having me lie down on my back and kissing / licking my neck and worked her way down to my nipples then cock. Flipped to 69 and had some fun there. Highlight of the session was her rimming me deep and jerking me off with both her hands. Came in her mouth as she deep throated me while playing with my balls.

Went to shower again. Told the manager I would be ready again in 15 minutes or so. Got rung up to my next room and was greeted by choice number 2.

Choice number 2 wasn't as skilled as my previous choice but she had natural e cups and was a college student. Inexperienced but tried her best which was cute and had its own appeal.

No rimming this time but the highlight was a nice wet tittyfuck. Came in her mouth as she ate every last drop and finished the journey.

I would say for the price, it's a great experience! Especially if you're just in the mood for a quick release and go. Total damages was 11 manwon.

Anyone in Seoul that does anal? Bonus points if they offer it without a condom. I don't really know any providers who do anal in Korea. On the extreme chance they do, it is usually with a condom.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2668713]Went to a lip cafe in Gangnam over the weekend and had a blast! This is my quick review .

Called and scheduled an appointment for the afternoon.

The service I requested was a relay course (one shot with one girl, then one shot with another) 20 minutes each. Touching / licking allowed with clothes off, but no penetration. I also got to select the girls after looking at their menu online.

Received a text of the address. Arrived and showered, then relaxed in the waiting room having some mixed coffee when the manager told me my room was ready.

Entered a room where I was greeted by my first choice. She had decent looking be cups and was on the bit of the older side of lip cafes (she said she was 27). Wasn't the most glamorous but her lips skills were amazing. Your mileage with girls will differ but she was the store's ace and rightly so. She started off my having me lie down on my back and kissing / licking my neck and worked her way down to my nipples then cock. Flipped to 69 and had some fun there.[/QUOTE]Nice review.

Just wondering can I drop my kakao ID here?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2668713]Went to a lip cafe in Gangnam over the weekend and had a blast! This is my quick review .

Called and scheduled an appointment for the afternoon.

The service I requested was a relay course (one shot with one girl, then one shot with another) 20 minutes each. Touching / licking allowed with clothes off, but no penetration. I also got to select the girls after looking at their menu online.

Received a text of the address. Arrived and showered, then relaxed in the waiting room having some mixed coffee when the manager told me my room was ready.

Entered a room where I was greeted by my first choice. She had decent looking be cups and was on the bit of the older side of lip cafes (she said she was 27). Wasn't the most glamorous but her lips skills were amazing. Your mileage with girls will differ but she was the store's ace and rightly so. She started off my having me lie down on my back and kissing / licking my neck and worked her way down to my nipples then cock. Flipped to 69 and had some fun there. Highlight of the session was her rimming me deep and jerking me off with both her hands. Came in her mouth as she deep throated me while playing with my balls.

Went to shower again. Told the manager I would be ready again in 15 minutes or so. Got rung up to my next room and was greeted by choice number 2..[/QUOTE]Nice one. Can you share the details of this setup? Looks very reasonable for the price. I have paid a lot more for services that were a lot less.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2668790]Anyone in Seoul that does anal? Bonus points if they offer it without a condom. I don't really know any providers who do anal in Korea. On the extreme chance they do, it is usually with a condom.[/QUOTE]Although it is available, it depends on a few factors. Your best bet is an escort, who you can negotiate that with and are you dead set on it being a Korean girl? There's other nationalities available. Just google escorts in seoul, or go to massage *republc. I don't know where you've been or how often you've gone to a provider, but I'll list it from least likely to most likely:

1. 1st time with any manager if you're good looking and vibe great with them.

2. Escort who you've negotiated it with or are a repeat and "loyal" customer with.

3. Hyugitel / anma where you've seen the same girl several times, again a repeat "loyal" customer.

4. Any massage parlor where you've been a repeat customer, and possibly established enough comfort and rapport that she'll let you do this either at the shop or when you meet her outside.

5. Misc. For those unknown unknown variables.

6. Some random girl in the wild you meet at a bar / club / dating app that's DTF.

As always, got to +/- for any variables or surprises. There's always TS if that's your thing, but I ain't about that life.

[QUOTE=Roxas;2669005]Just wondering can I drop my kakao ID here?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't recommend it, unless its a fake one you use for mongering or a throwaway. And even then, I'd urr on the side of caution.

Kyopo here with 80% or so Korean language ability. I've been able to bluff my way into "Korean only" places such as anmas and glass houses. Got an Opstar account and tried ringing a nearby officetel listed. I thought each listing was an individual freelancer but seems like each listing is a mini-online brothel with a menu of girls. An ajusshi answered the listed phone number and I fumbled my way for a bit before he asked. "Are you a foreigner?" I admitted I was a Kyopo and the ajusshi apologized and said the girls don't take foreigners. He seemed nice enough and I wondered if I should have offered more money or pushed him to persuade one of the girls to accept. Anyway, to those that have successfully used an officetel, what is the exact script one should use, starting with the initial Hello,? Example: "Hello, I got your number from Opstar. Can I book an appointment?" Or something else? If anyone can post the exact Korean phrases to use that would be helpful. BTW, what the heck is a "stocking?" And when they have a +3 in front of an extra, how much is the extra? Any other protocols? I see they advertise their hours as 12 noon to 5 AM. How immediately can they be booked? Like call at noon and get a girl an hour later?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2668713]Went to a lip cafe in Gangnam over the weekend and had a blast! This is my quick review .

[/QUOTE]Luckyy. Is it the one near exit 4? I only managed to get in once and after that it was "no".

I've managed to get in another one near Suji-gu station in 2020 but it's way too far for my taste.

[QUOTE=Bokehnikon;2669263]BTW, what the heck is a "stocking?" And when they have a +3 in front of an extra, how much is the extra? Any other protocols? I see they advertise their hours as 12 noon to 5 AM. How immediately can they be booked? Like call at noon and get a girl an hour later?[/QUOTE]+3 means look at the listed price for the course and time you chose and add 30,000.

For bookings, each place is different and if you're set on a specific girl they'll let you know her availabilities or ask you for your "type".

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2669047]Nice one. Can you share the details of this setup? Looks very reasonable for the price. I have paid a lot more for services that were a lot less.[/QUOTE]The setup was similar to that of a massage / kunma!

You enter, pick your course, pay, then shower and hang out in the waiting room with your fellow mongers if there are any at the time. Usually beverages and some snacks available but not so much now that its covid.

Once your manager arrives, the staff will escort you to your room and your service begins.

The room is fairly small and has enough space for a massage table / bed.

For lip cafes of course, no condoms needed and of course CIM. I wasn't sure if facials were available as I didn't ask.

If you have any questions feel free to ask away on here as I sadly can't DM yet.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2669263]Kyopo here with 80% or so Korean language ability. I've been able to bluff my way into "Korean only" places such as anmas and glass houses. Got an Opstar account and tried ringing a nearby officetel listed. I thought each listing was an individual freelancer but seems like each listing is a mini-online brothel with a menu of girls. An ajusshi answered the listed phone number and I fumbled my way for a bit before he asked. "Are you a foreigner?" I admitted I was a Kyopo and the ajusshi apologized and said the girls don't take foreigners. He seemed nice enough and I wondered if I should have offered more money or pushed him to persuade one of the girls to accept. Anyway, to those that have successfully used an officetel, what is the exact script one should use, starting with the initial Hello,? Example: "Hello, I got your number from Opstar. Can I book an appointment?" Or something else? If anyone can post the exact Korean phrases to use that would be helpful. BTW, what the heck is a "stocking?" And when they have a +3 in front of an extra, how much is the extra? Any other protocols? I see they advertise their hours as 12 noon to 5 AM. How immediately can they be booked? Like call at noon and get a girl an hour later?[/QUOTE]- The listings online opstar / opggani are all shops.

Just be direct and to the point! I'm afraid every time I type Korean on this blog it gets jumbled up and broken into unreadable text.

"Hello, I'm looking to make a reservation at 4 PM with bla bla manager for course A".

Afterwards you might need to verify with a business card or some other type of personal info to make sure you're not a narc. Depends on the establishment.

- Stockings also mean stocking service where the girl will wear stockings during your play.

- +3 for example is an extra charge and that would be an extra 3 manwon to meet the girl on top of the service you chose.

- If they say they are open from noon to 5 am, it means that reservations start at noon and service starts at 1 pm usually for most shops. They also only take daily bookings only, as in you can't schedule in advance.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2669263]BTW, what the heck is a "stocking?" And when they have a +3 in front of an extra, how much is the extra? [/QUOTE]Hard to know exactly without seeing the ad, but usually "stocking" refers to a specific request about the girl wearing pantyhose. Seems to be quite popular, its offered and advertised a lot, implying a lot of people want / care about that.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2669476]- The listings online opstar / opggani are all shops.

Just be direct and to the point! I'm afraid every time I type Korean on this blog it gets jumbled up and broken into unreadable text.

"Hello, I'm looking to make a reservation at 4 PM with bla bla manager for course A".

Afterwards you might need to verify with a business card or some other type of personal info to make sure you're not a narc. Depends on the establishment.

- Stockings also mean stocking service where the girl will wear stockings during your play.

- +3 for example is an extra charge and that would be an extra 3 manwon to meet the girl on top of the service you chose.

- If they say they are open from noon to 5 am, it means that reservations start at noon and service starts at 1 pm usually for most shops. They also only take daily bookings only, as in you can't schedule in advance.[/QUOTE]You can type in Korean on this site, but you need to put a space between each syllable so that your writing looks like this: 강 남 휴 게 텔 . If you don't put a space between the syllables, the site shows only the first one and lists the rest in a numeric code, I. E.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2669263]Kyopo here with 80% or so Korean language ability. I've been able to bluff my way into "Korean only" places such as anmas and glass houses. Got an Opstar account and tried ringing a nearby officetel listed. I thought each listing was an individual freelancer but seems like each listing is a mini-online brothel with a menu of girls. An ajusshi answered the listed phone number and I fumbled my way for a bit before he asked. "Are you a foreigner?" I admitted I was a Kyopo and the ajusshi apologized and said the girls don't take foreigners. He seemed nice enough and I wondered if I should have offered more money or pushed him to persuade one of the girls to accept. Anyway, to those that have successfully used an officetel, what is the exact script one should use, starting with the initial Hello,? Example: "Hello, I got your number from Opstar. Can I book an appointment?" Or something else? If anyone can post the exact Korean phrases to use that would be helpful. BTW, what the heck is a "stocking?" And when they have a +3 in front of an extra, how much is the extra? Any other protocols? I see they advertise their hours as 12 noon to 5 AM. How immediately can they be booked? Like call at noon and get a girl an hour later?[/QUOTE]If you are a kyopo with '80% Korean language ability', you should be able to access every type of sex service in Korea without issue. If your Korean is that good, making a simple reservation shouldn't be a problem. My Korean ability is really quite low and I've been able to navigate phone call reservations relatively easily.

If the officetel you contacted did not want to offer service, I imagine that they must have thought something was strange about the call. Maybe you asked too many questions and they thought you were going to cause problems.

Next time, just ask for a reservation with a particular girl at a particular time and tell them any options that you would like to add on to the service. It is really that simple.

They may ask you whether this is your first time. You can tell them that you've never visited this particular officetel, but that you've been a customer at this or that anma or gunma in the past. If they have a contact with the shop you mentioned, they will call them to check. If they don't have a contact, just stating that you have already purchased sex in the past may suffice. Some shops may want additional info from you such as a photo of your business card or ID card. It seems shady, but it really isn't.

If they ask you whether you are kyopo again, rather than admit that you are a kyopo, just tell them that you are Korean, but that you lived abroad in your teens or twenties. This might be reasons enough why your Korean isn't perfect.

Also, don't give up on the first reservation. Just call around to other shops.

To your other point, the earlier you try to book, the fewer options you will have. Some of the girls are not ready or awake first thing in the afternoon. Sometimes, as late as 5:00 or 6:00 pm, the shops seem to run a skeleton crew. If you goal is to be the first of the day, early afternoon is your best bet. Also, many places offer an afternoon discount of 10,000 to 20,000 won depending on the service you choose. Just be prepared to ask them which girls are available at the time you want to book your appointment.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2668790]Anyone in Seoul that does anal? Bonus points if they offer it without a condom. I don't really know any providers who do anal in Korea. On the extreme chance they do, it is usually with a condom.[/QUOTE]Anal is certainly available in Korea. At Hyugetels it will be written in Korean alongside the other optional services that each girl provides. For instance, just two weeks ago, I chose a Thai girl who offered anal, and although I chose a basic service, she had no problem with me putting my fingers in her ass. I'll almost certainly choose her anal course next time.

However, based on your post history, you might have a hard time finding this kind of service. Do you mind sharing a report of your own? What kind of adventures do you get up to?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2667463]Well brother what I do is install Line on the way to work and uninstall that on the way home to hit the my contact with the girls. As far as price honestly they enjoy the company of being pampered with food and some BFE as much as I do. I have even had a few refuse to accept any cash I give them at the end of meeting. The most I have ever gave a girl after spending a few hours together with at least 3 or 4 pops is 100 bucks.

These girls are treated like shit or like just a wet hole by the natives so the enjoy someone actually talking to them showing a little chivalry.

You are correct when they move they always tell me and ask me to swing by once. I think its so they new boss sees they are an earner.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Glad you're having fun! Keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2669472]The setup was similar to that of a massage / kunma!

You enter, pick your course, pay, then shower and hang out in the waiting room with your fellow mongers if there are any at the time. Usually beverages and some snacks available but not so much now that its covid.

Once your manager arrives, the staff will escort you to your room and your service begins.

The room is fairly small and has enough space for a massage table / bed.

For lip cafes of course, no condoms needed and of course CIM. I wasn't sure if facials were available as I didn't ask.

If you have any questions feel free to ask away on here as I sadly can't DM yet.[/QUOTE]Got it. Can you share the specific name that I should search for on opstar?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2669472]The setup was similar to that of a massage / kunma!

You enter, pick your course, pay, then shower and hang out in the waiting room with your fellow mongers if there are any at the time. Usually beverages and some snacks available but not so much now that its covid.

Once your manager arrives, the staff will escort you to your room and your service begins.

The room is fairly small and has enough space for a massage table / bed.

For lip cafes of course, no condoms needed and of course CIM. I wasn't sure if facials were available as I didn't ask.

If you have any questions feel free to ask away on here as I sadly can't DM yet.[/QUOTE]What site did you use to find this place? Are you Kyobo? Thanks in advance for the info.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2648706]Hey guys,

I got some good news today I went to gain anma as I was in gangnam station and the reception told they are now accepting foreigners especially from Singapore or countries with LTV. The best time she told me to come is when it's not busy which is between 1-2 pm when everyone is in break. There closed rooms at this time as well. She also told me bring all my friends next time so definitely looking forward to being a group of people one day. (Not sure if we can get discount but probably we can![/QUOTE]When do you plan to go to Gain again? I would also like to come along. Let me know.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2669472]The setup was similar to that of a massage / kunma!

You enter, pick your course, pay, then shower and hang out in the waiting room with your fellow mongers if there are any at the time. Usually beverages and some snacks available but not so much now that its covid.

Once your manager arrives, the staff will escort you to your room and your service begins.

The room is fairly small and has enough space for a massage table / bed.

For lip cafes of course, no condoms needed and of course CIM. I wasn't sure if facials were available as I didn't ask.

If you have any questions feel free to ask away on here as I sadly can't DM yet.[/QUOTE]So do they take walk-ins? If so can you point me to the location?

Or is there a site I should visit?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2668713]Went to a lip cafe in Gangnam over the weekend and had a blast! This is my quick review .

Called and scheduled an appointment for the afternoon.

The service I requested was a relay course (one shot with one girl, then one shot with another) 20 minutes each. Touching / licking allowed with clothes off, but no penetration. I also got to select the girls after looking at their menu online.

Received a text of the address. Arrived and showered, then relaxed in the waiting room having some mixed coffee when the manager told me my room was ready.

Entered a room where I was greeted by my first choice. She had decent looking be cups and was on the bit of the older side of lip cafes (she said she was 27). Wasn't the most glamorous but her lips skills were amazing. Your mileage with girls will differ but she was the store's ace and rightly so. She started off my having me lie down on my back and kissing / licking my neck and worked her way down to my nipples then cock. Flipped to 69 and had some fun there. Highlight of the session was her rimming me deep and jerking me off with both her hands. Came in her mouth as she deep throated me while playing with my balls..[/QUOTE]Nice report. Lip cafes sound amazing. I've always wanted to visit one.

You're Korean, right? Do you think that the lip cafe you visited would ever accept a white guy? I've never bothered calling, because I never thought it would be possible to receive service at any of the shops that have a common waiting area. I imagine that owners wouldn't want foreign customers lounging in the waiting room with the Korean customers.

Also, I've got a quick question. Recently, I asked a Hyugetel girl the average age of her customers, and she told me that most of the guys who visit are in their 20's. Did you find that the other customers at the lip cafe were in this demographic?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2669840]Got it. Can you share the specific name that I should search for on opstar?[/QUOTE]Name of the place was "Madonna."

No clue if they take foreigners. Looking forward to your report.

Thanks to everyone that replied to my earlier post about officetels. Haven't tried calling them up again yet, though. Got a regular someplace else I've been hitting up.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2669206]Although it is available, it depends on a few factors. Your best bet is an escort, who you can negotiate that with and are you dead set on it being a Korean girl? There's other nationalities available. Just google escorts in seoul, or go to massage *republc. I don't know where you've been or how often you've gone to a provider, but I'll list it from least likely to most likely:

1. 1st time with any manager if you're good looking and vibe great with them.

2. Escort who you've negotiated it with or are a repeat and "loyal" customer with.

3. Hyugitel / anma where you've seen the same girl several times, again a repeat "loyal" customer.

4. Any massage parlor where you've been a repeat customer, and possibly established enough comfort and rapport that she'll let you do this either at the shop or when you meet her outside..[/QUOTE]I prefer Koreans or Hispanics. Koreans because I'm in Korea and would naturally want to meetup with Korean girls, and Hispanics because they have very nice bodies and are my personal type. So I am not interested in Chinese or Thai girls, who appear to be the most common people to offer anal service.

I am also not into trans. The massage republic site, is full of escorts who aren't Korean. There's barely any Hispanics there (none of which offer anal) and the Koreans are outcall only from agencies who will always bait-and-switch and / or use pics without visible faces or heavily edited / blurred faces. It's unfortunate, but also understandable given the circumstances pertaining to Korean law.

Tried a couple of setups in Seoulleung and Gangnam. The one is Gangnam is totally price inflated and avoidable. It's called the nude walk on Opstar. They publicize as a nude massage. But the service was pathetic. The Thai lady was totally disinterested. The massage doesn't last more than 15 minutes compared to what is advertised as 60 minutes. A lot of time is wasted on prep etc. Additional services are offered inside which is already inflated compared to the 110 k charged at the reception. All in all a complete waste of money.

I did find a hidden gem in Seoulleung. It's a perfect setup with a cover charge of 40 k and extras to be negotiated inside. This was a very good find and I have had a great time both the times that I have been there. The ladies are into it and very good sport. Once the lady overshot the slot by a good 20 minutes and gave me a great time. Very good attitude and service. I will only share the details with select few in PM who can provide reciprocal contacts.

Off to see a hyugetel with a Russian manager sometime this weekend, will report back with specific details!

From the advertising it says she is 23,158 in height, 56 kg, and natural F breasts.

Will be going for a unlimited hour and a half course which costs around 24 manwon.

Definitely the most expensive for hyugetel standards and is basically an OP price but I need me some thick booty and bustyness sometimes that's hard to find in Korean / Asian girls in general.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2674826]Off to see a hyugetel with a Russian manager sometime this weekend, will report back with specific details!

From the advertising it says she is 23,158 in height, 56 kg, and natural F breasts.

Will be going for a unlimited hour and a half course which costs around 24 manwon.

Definitely the most expensive for hyugetel standards and is basically an OP price but I need me some thick booty and bustyness sometimes that's hard to find in Korean / Asian girls in general.[/QUOTE]I have tried this service. The picture is either heavily photoshopped or old or it's a bait and switch. In my case the pic was very old and heavily photoshopped.

When I spoke to a few folks, they said that this is a hit and miss kind of an establishment. More misses than hits.

So I've already read up recent postings on the old school glass houses. Many of the big famous ones such as 588 in Seoul, Daegu, Haeundae in Busan and Suwon have fallen victim to "redevelopment." Pyeongtaek is still kicking but some of the buildings have been demolished. Miari, YDP almost ghost towns. Sigh, end of an era.

There seems to be little material on glass houses in provincial cities, especially fresh reports less than several years old. Places such as:

Jeonju.

Hanseong, Wonju (not sure if glass houses exist here, supposed to be the RLD of this little city).

Paju.

Supposedly Gyeonju has one near the older train station?

Anyone know the status of the above mentioned areas?

Any other glass houses somewhere in the boonies?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2675322]I have tried this service. The picture is either heavily photoshopped or old or it's a bait and switch. In my case the pic was very old and heavily photoshopped.

When I spoke to a few folks, they said that this is a hit and miss kind of an establishment. More misses than hits.[/QUOTE]I strongly agree with Buddy, as has been my experience as well. Prob better luck trying to pick up a non-WG at a reg bar / club who is the desired ethnicity / nationality. Maybe pay the extra for the girls on MR / escorts, least those are guaranteed or better hits than a miss. Good luck TacoY, eager to read your FR.

Most providers at establishments are understandably cagey about providing personal details about themselves beyond age and name (always a fake one, at that). But a small minority have been pretty forthcoming to me, confessing their real name. I had one at first encounter (or maybe second) show me pics of her immediate family on her phone as we made pillow talk and mentioned where her brother went to university, where he worked, etc, where her hometown was. Although I never tried, I felt it would have been quite easy to meet up with these girls and pursue something outside. Any thoughts? Anyone with similar observations?

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2672295]I prefer Koreans or Hispanics. Koreans because I'm in Korea and would naturally want to meetup with Korean girls, and Hispanics because they have very nice bodies and are my personal type. So I am not interested in Chinese or Thai girls, who appear to be the most common people to offer anal service.

I am also not into trans. The massage republic site, is full of escorts who aren't Korean. There's barely any Hispanics there (none of which offer anal) and the Koreans are outcall only from agencies who will always bait-and-switch and / or use pics without visible faces or heavily edited / blurred faces. It's unfortunate, but also understandable given the circumstances pertaining to Korean law.[/QUOTE]I am pretty confident that a number of the foreign Asian women on MR are trans, but they don't advertise that fact.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2675322]I have tried this service. The picture is either heavily photoshopped or old or it's a bait and switch. In my case the pic was very old and heavily photoshopped.

When I spoke to a few folks, they said that this is a hit and miss kind of an establishment. More misses than hits.[/QUOTE]Reporting back, was not disappointed! Was as advertised and I've been to this hyugetel a few times before so was sure their photos were legit.

They usually go for more "exotic" tastes and have two Russian managers and a shemale manager working at the moment!

Forgot to ask for you all if she / the establishment took foreign clients: see.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2675777]So I've already read up recent postings on the old school glass houses. Many of the big famous ones such as 588 in Seoul, Daegu, Haeundae in Busan and Suwon have fallen victim to "redevelopment." Pyeongtaek is still kicking but some of the buildings have been demolished. Miari, YDP almost ghost towns. Sigh, end of an era.

There seems to be little material on glass houses in provincial cities, especially fresh reports less than several years old. Places such as:

Jeonju.

Hanseong, Wonju (not sure if glass houses exist here, supposed to be the RLD of this little city).

Paju.

Supposedly Gyeonju has one near the older train station?

Anyone know the status of the above mentioned areas?

Any other glass houses somewhere in the boonies?[/QUOTE]I think YDG is the only real Glass house left in Seoul, Correct me if I'm wrong?

Hi all,

I'm visiting Korea in April / May for about month and a half. From my sleuthing in this forum, it seems like opstar is the main Korean advertising thread to find play areas. What's a good neighborhood to book an Airbnb that's close to the anmas and lip cafes? I'm a gyopo with average Korean skills. If I am able to get into a few of these establishments, I'm looking forward to sharing back the findings. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sleep949;2676838]Hi all,

I'm visiting Korea in April / May for about month and a half. From my sleuthing in this forum, it seems like opstar is the main Korean advertising thread to find play areas. What's a good neighborhood to book an Airbnb that's close to the anmas and lip cafes? I'm a gyopo with average Korean skills. If I am able to get into a few of these establishments, I'm looking forward to sharing back the findings. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You are correct, Opstar would be one of the main advertising sites.

The Gangnam neighborhood in Seoul should suit all your needs. More specifically Seollung Station, Yeoksam Station, and Gangnam Station itself.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2676599]Reporting back, was not disappointed! Was as advertised and I've been to this hyugetel a few times before so was sure their photos were legit.

They usually go for more "exotic" tastes and have two Russian managers and a shemale manager working at the moment!

Forgot to ask for you all if she / the establishment took foreign clients: see.[/QUOTE]Shemale?? How do you know?

Better to ask someone before accidently getting a shock of ones life LOL.

Hello,

I am reading through google and hard to find solid info on locations for services. I can see that foreigners are not widely accepted at many establishments. What if I am Korean born in Canada. My Korean is okay. But noticeable it is not my first language. Will they accept me or write me off as a foreigner?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2639654]Oh I see and my bad! First time posting and did not know that DM's required more of a membership / active status.

Would you guys be interested in a guide explaining the different services, etiquette, how to contact, etc offered in Korea?

Ranging from kunma / massages, kiss bang / lip cafes, hyugetels, officetels, anmas?[/QUOTE]Hi Taco!

I hope you do write up that guide! It would be super helpful. Maybe a thread in and of itself. I plan on visiting Korea in a month or so. I'll definitely be sharing my experiences. I speak pretty fluent Korean, so I don't think I'll have too much trouble navigating.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2678012]Shemale?? How do you know?

Better to ask someone before accidently getting a shock of ones life LOL.[/QUOTE]I know because its what she was advertised as on the site.

Hmm but a follow up on the Russian manager, I tried to see her again but was replaced with a completely different person this time around. Was very disappointed.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2678117]Hi Taco!

I hope you do write up that guide! It would be super helpful. Maybe a thread in and of itself. I plan on visiting Korea in a month or so. I'll definitely be sharing my experiences. I speak pretty fluent Korean, so I don't think I'll have too much trouble navigating.[/QUOTE]I wrote a mini guide a few pages back on this forum!

Do ask any questions if you have any, I can't DM though.

How is everything going so far with finding people? I still find it very hard to find people and these websites seem to become inactive or remove their listings.

There are no rules that state we can't talk about this, and it doesn't even seem like it's against the rules to link to those websites. So with that being said, what websites do you guys recommend? I seem to have no luck finding anyone on MassageRepublic, TopEscortBabes, and CityOfLove.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2679700]There are no rules that state we can't talk about this, and it doesn't even seem like it's against the rules to link to those websites. So with that being said, what websites do you guys recommend? I seem to have no luck finding anyone on MassageRepublic, TopEscortBabes, and CityOfLove.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing Opstar a lot on the forums but I don't know what it is exactly? Can someone DM me the exact link to Opstar? I tried googling it but it's like some aviation company that keeps popping up LOL.

BTW I'm Meeks! Here for a little while.

I went to Seoul today and drove through the glass house RLD area next to Times Square mall. It was about 6 pm with a second pass about 7 pm. No girls! Lots of what were clearly "glass houses" but every one of them had the curtains closed. No lights. Too early? Bad day? Crackdown / closure? I do not know, just reporting my observation.

[QUOTE=Dbates80;2681080]I went to Seoul today and drove through the glass house RLD area next to Times Square mall. It was about 6 pm with a second pass about 7 pm. No girls! Lots of what were clearly "glass houses" but every one of them had the curtains closed. No lights. Too early? Bad day? Crackdown / closure? I do not know, just reporting my observation.[/QUOTE]I think now they only show up when people are walking right by them. And I mean right in front. They are scared of people filming them and also scared of undercover police. They are looking for people who look like they are seeking women. Either guys in groups or guys alone that consistently pace back and forth and look left and right for girls. And yes, it was definitely too early. The girls these days like to show themselves only after the sun goes down.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2681294]I think now they only show up when people are walking right by them. And I mean right in front. They are scared of people filming them and also scared of undercover police. They are looking for people who look like they are seeking women. Either guys in groups or guys alone that consistently pace back and forth and look left and right for girls. And yes, it was definitely too early. The girls these days like to show themselves only after the sun goes down.[/QUOTE]Are there girls in the windows Midnight times 12-4 Am?

[QUOTE=Dbates80;2681080]I went to Seoul today and drove through the glass house RLD area next to Times Square mall. It was about 6 pm with a second pass about 7 pm. No girls! Lots of what were clearly "glass houses" but every one of them had the curtains closed. No lights. Too early? Bad day? Crackdown / closure? I do not know, just reporting my observation.[/QUOTE]Too early.

So, from what I understand GA-IN is accepting foreigners again? Non-Asian foreigners, too?

[QUOTE=Iseoulu;2681554]Too early.[/QUOTE]There should be girls to choose from at least 18 hours a day.

[QUOTE=JjMeeks;2679984]I've been seeing Opstar a lot on the forums but I don't know what it is exactly? Can someone DM me the exact link to Opstar? I tried googling it but it's like some aviation company that keeps popping up LOL.

BTW I'm Meeks! Here for a little while.[/QUOTE]Hey Meeks. I'm just like you, I didn't know what opstar was, but upon digging through the forum more I found the link! Its [URL]opgani7.com[/URL]. If that doesn't work, then change the 7 to an 8 and so on. There are other advertising websites such as yamap7 that don't require registration, but don't see as much advertisement as opstar.

As for other people who have experience with opstar. Are the pictures of the girls real? I'm aware there's some photoshop involved in these pictures, but was curious if they were of the actual girl. I would like to book with a girl on opstar, unfortunately, I am a foreigner (From us, but am Asian) and I don't Korean. Is there any way I could weasle my way through using google translate to text or maybe know a guy who could set an appointment up with me.

I remember reading the KoreanChinese (or Taco Yaki?) guy mentioning meeting up sometime. I'm down for that, but I won't be in Korea till mid July.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2678568]I wrote a mini guide a few pages back on this forum!

Do ask any questions if you have any, I can't DM though.[/QUOTE]Hey Taco,

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] But do you have any advice for a foreigner trying to book through opstar?

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2679700]There are no rules that state we can't talk about this, and it doesn't even seem like it's against the rules to link to those websites. So with that being said, what websites do you guys recommend? I seem to have no luck finding anyone on MassageRepublic, TopEscortBabes, and CityOfLove.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Korea, I used MassageRepublic. It seems to be the only reliable site in terms of finding a legit provider.

You could try trystlink, but prepare your wallet, girls there charge upwards of $800 for an hour.

Tried out three options today. Gain, Gold and Castle.

Got turned away at both Gain and Gold.

I was invited to Gold a couple of months back. However this time around no such luck. It seems to be completely on chance these days. If the receptionist likes your face you get entry else you don't.

Got entry into Castle. They charged an exorbitant 310 k for one hour and one shot. I tried to negotiate for two shots but no luck. Currently in the waiting room. Will share the full review in my next post.

Would like to go along with some folks here Taco, Korean? I think going individually is not a good idea for a foreigner.

[QUOTE=MooseWings;2682266]Hey Meeks. I'm just like you, I didn't know what opstar was, but upon digging through the forum more I found the link! Its [URL]opgani7.com[/URL]. If that doesn't work, then change the 7 to an 8 and so on. There are other advertising websites such as yamap7 that don't require registration, but don't see as much advertisement as opstar.

As for other people who have experience with opstar. Are the pictures of the girls real? I'm aware there's some photoshop involved in these pictures, but was curious if they were of the actual girl. I would like to book with a girl on opstar, unfortunately, I am a foreigner (From us, but am Asian) and I don't Korean. Is there any way I could weasle my way through using google translate to text or maybe know a guy who could set an appointment up with me..[/QUOTE]I'm sure it's all fake. They always happen to find girls with fantastic bodies (usually Japanese pornstars) and use their photos. I doubt any of them are real.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2682405]I'm sure it's all fake. They always happen to find girls with fantastic bodies (usually Japanese pornstars) and use their photos. I doubt any of them are real.[/QUOTE]Most of the time they are not the actual girls, but if you can read Korean it'll actually say that. When the pictures are of the actual girls, they also say that and its pretty obvious because they're cell phone type pictures and not professional modeling shots.

[QUOTE=MooseWings;2682266]Hey Meeks. I'm just like you, I didn't know what opstar was, but upon digging through the forum more I found the link! Its [URL]opgani7.com[/URL]. If that doesn't work, then change the 7 to an 8 and so on. There are other advertising websites such as yamap7 that don't require registration, but don't see as much advertisement as opstar.

As for other people who have experience with opstar. Are the pictures of the girls real? I'm aware there's some photoshop involved in these pictures, but was curious if they were of the actual girl. I would like to book with a girl on opstar, unfortunately, I am a foreigner (From us, but am Asian) and I don't Korean. Is there any way I could weasle my way through using google translate to text or maybe know a guy who could set an appointment up with me.

I remember reading the KoreanChinese (or Taco Yaki?) guy mentioning meeting up sometime. I'm down for that, but I won't be in Korea till mid July.[/QUOTE]Peanuts7 is right. Read the watermarks in the centre of the photos. It will read either 100% which means 100% real, or which means they're still preparing to add a real photo. In other words, it's a placeholder image.

From my experience the 100% real photos are very accurate. I've never felt like I wasn't meeting the woman I booked from the advertisement. They may, however, be more dolled up in the their photos with better hair and makeup, but I've also been pleasantly surprised to find some women to be more attractive in real life.

Moosewings, you might have trouble booking without being able to speak any Korean. In my experience, the last step of the booking process always involves a phone call. You'll need to be able to tell the manager that you arrived, which girl you booked, and that you would like to know her room number as well as the code to enter the building / elevator. Likewise, your listening skills would need to be good enough to gather this info.

Your best bet would be to use google translate, but tell them up front that you are not Korean and don't speak Korean. They may try to accommodate you. It really just depends on the mood of the manager and how much he wants to work to get your business.

Give it a shot and let us know if it works.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2682383]Tried out three options today. Gain, Gold and Castle.

Got turned away at both Gain and Gold.

I was invited to Gold a couple of months back. However this time around no such luck. It seems to be completely on chance these days. If the receptionist likes your face you get entry else you don't.

Got entry into Castle. They charged an exorbitant 310 k for one hour and one shot. I tried to negotiate for two shots but no luck. Currently in the waiting room. Will share the full review in my next post.

Would like to go along with some folks here Taco, Korean? I think going individually is not a good idea for a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Turned out to be a nightmare. I was taken directly into a room. No club experience. The provider was at least 50+ And very average looking. Trying to please but was trying to hurry up with a lot of fake moans. I was told that I am too big (which I know I am not. I am just average). There was a namesake massage with which it started off. Lots of loud noises without much contact. It was terrible. Then came the actual service. She continually asked me to be slow and gentle but she was rather rough. Lots of fake moans and kept on requesting me to come off fast.

This has been the single worst experience of my life. At this price point in the US, I have had experiences that were premium and high quality.

Don't intend to visit any more Anmas after this experience. There are places with a quarter of the price which provide a much better experience.

Horrendous rip off is the synonym of Castle anma / Lyra. Could use the worst of the negative adjectives, multiply those by a factor of 100 and the experience would still be below that.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2682638]Peanuts7 is right. Read the watermarks in the centre of the photos. It will read either 100% which means 100% real, or which means they're still preparing to add a real photo. In other words, it's a placeholder image.

From my experience the 100% real photos are very accurate. I've never felt like I wasn't meeting the woman I booked from the advertisement. They may, however, be more dolled up in the their photos with better hair and makeup, but I've also been pleasantly surprised to find some women to be more attractive in real life.

Moosewings, you might have trouble booking without being able to speak any Korean. In my experience, the last step of the booking process always involves a phone call. You'll need to be able to tell the manager that you arrived, which girl you booked, and that you would like to know her room number as well as the code to enter the building / elevator. Likewise, your listening skills would need to be good enough to gather this info..[/QUOTE]Hey Bonjovi3. Glad to hear that for the most part, the pictures are accurate. I was a bit skeptical because my local AMP and stuff all use fake pictures to advertise their girls, I guess its different in Korea.

I'll start shooting some messages to managers a couple of days before I arrive in Korea so that I have enough time to set up appointments, or else I'll leave Korea empty-handed! I'll def let you guys know how it went, though it won't be till July. So in the meantime, I'll be trying to learn as much about opstar as possible and Korean ofc.

If you don't mind me asking if you're Korean? If not how were you able to book an appointment aside from getting lucky with a manager? Would it help if I offer to pay a foreigner fee?

Thanks,

MooseWings.

Hugtel- Most places want to speak on the phone. It is for safety and also to see who you are. One story I read was about a guy who got all the way into the room and showered and still after the girl thought about it, decided she was not okay with a foreigner. The good thing was she gave the money back. Also positive, another girl said yes to anal but when it hurt to much give me a refund for that service.

If you find a number you can google it and maybe bring up the other websites. There are at least 3 or 4 and not all businesses are on each. And yes, they change the websites and girls often. So good today might be bad tomorrow. But bad today might be good tomorrow. It is just a lot of work. Pictures, most are not a good match but generally they are not too far off.

YDP does not start until after 8 pm. The girls will "disappear". But if you see guys hanging out, then it probably means they are open but currently hiding. Wait a little and then walk through.

RLDs are really a big hit or miss for foreigners. The girls really do not want to be seen accepting foreigners so if you walk around when it is slow or do not stand out too much, chances could increase.

[QUOTE=MooseWings;2683144]Hey Bonjovi3. Glad to hear that for the most part, the pictures are accurate. I was a bit skeptical because my local AMP and stuff all use fake pictures to advertise their girls, I guess its different in Korea..[/QUOTE]Moosewings, there are certainly some that use fake photos. The ones that are real make sure to advertise that the photos are, in fact, real. I tried to type out the Korean meaning for real and not real that appears watermarked on the photos in my last post but the Korean didn't show up for some reason. Phonetically, it would be be 실 사 'shil-sa' and 'shil-sa Jun.-bi-jung' , respectively.

If their are no watermarks indicating the authenticity of the photos and the photos are all very glamorous and professional, then the photos are probably fake.

Also, to answer your questions, I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I have intermediate Korean skills. To get service, I have always been up front with the management and let them know that I'm not Korean. However, I still get turned down most of the time. Thankfully, I have a handful of regular places that have no problem offering me service. I wish I could access more of them, but this is just the way it is.

And no, it won't help to offer more money. Look at Buddy1978's recent post. If they charge you more, they will also offer you worse service. You'll get some desperate lady they only use to service the drunkest customers. Sounds like they pulled some gremlin out of the basement to service Buddy1978 and charged him well over a normal rate for the pleasure of the experience.

If they ever refuse to show you who will provide the service before you pay, you're better off walking away. If the provider is attractive, they'll have no problem proving it.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2683250]Hugtel- Most places want to speak on the phone. It is for safety and also to see who you are. One story I read was about a guy who got all the way into the room and showered and still after the girl thought about it, decided she was not okay with a foreigner. The good thing was she gave the money back. Also positive, another girl said yes to anal but when it hurt to much give me a refund for that service.

If you find a number you can google it and maybe bring up the other websites. There are at least 3 or 4 and not all businesses are on each. And yes, they change the websites and girls often. So good today might be bad tomorrow. But bad today might be good tomorrow. It is just a lot of work. Pictures, most are not a good match but generally they are not too far off.

YDP does not start until after 8 pm. The girls will "disappear". But if you see guys hanging out, then it probably means they are open but currently hiding. Wait a little and then walk through.

RLDs are really a big hit or miss for foreigners. The girls really do not want to be seen accepting foreigners so if you walk around when it is slow or do not stand out too much, chances could increase.[/QUOTE]Have you tried YDP yourself?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2682638]Peanuts7 is right. Read the watermarks in the centre of the photos. It will read either 100% which means 100% real, or which means they're still preparing to add a real photo. In other words, it's a placeholder image.

From my experience the 100% real photos are very accurate. I've never felt like I wasn't meeting the woman I booked from the advertisement. They may, however, be more dolled up in the their photos with better hair and makeup, but I've also been pleasantly surprised to find some women to be more attractive in real life.

Moosewings, you might have trouble booking without being able to speak any Korean. In my experience, the last step of the booking process always involves a phone call. You'll need to be able to tell the manager that you arrived, which girl you booked, and that you would like to know her room number as well as the code to enter the building / elevator. Likewise, your listening skills would need to be good enough to gather this info.

Your best bet would be to use google translate, but tell them up front that you are not Korean and don't speak Korean. They may try to accommodate you. It really just depends on the mood of the manager and how much he wants to work to get your business.

Give it a shot and let us know if it works.[/QUOTE]Good advice. I'm a kyopo with middling Korean language skills. I recently tried calling up a local officetel (just once). The manager (actually, in this business they seem to refer to the girls as managers) asked me if I was a foreigner and I responded I was a Korean American. The manager was nice enough, apologized and said even if he could allow me to book, the girls don't like to take foreigners. I think I could have persuaded or offered a little more money but oh well.

To be honest I have mostly given up on finding escorts in 2022 in Korea. It's crazy how things are more backwards in modern times than there were in the 90's and early 00's. COVID is partially a reason for sure, but it clearly isn't a reason now. Koreans are taking over the omicron cases so they can't use that as an excuse whatsoever.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2683699]Good advice. I'm a kyopo with middling Korean language skills. I recently tried calling up a local officetel (just once). The manager (actually, in this business they seem to refer to the girls as managers) asked me if I was a foreigner and I responded I was a Korean American. The manager was nice enough, apologized and said even if he could allow me to book, the girls don't like to take foreigners. I think I could have persuaded or offered a little more money but oh well.[/QUOTE]That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2683746]That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.[/QUOTE]I think it was a mistake admitting you were a Korean American. Next time just say you're Korean. But surprised they even asked if you were a foreigner, might have been just his intuition / your accent / etc?

And correct, they call the girls managers out of respect.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2683405]Moosewings, there are certainly some that use fake photos. The ones that are real make sure to advertise that the photos are, in fact, real. I tried to type out the Korean meaning for real and not real that appears watermarked on the photos in my last post but the Korean didn't show up for some reason. Phonetically, it would be be 실 사 'shil-sa' and 'shil-sa Jun.-bi-jung' , respectively.

If their are no watermarks indicating the authenticity of the photos and the photos are all very glamorous and professional, then the photos are probably fake.

Also, to answer your questions, I'm not Korean. I'm white, but I have intermediate Korean skills. To get service, I have always been up front with the management and let them know that I'm not Korean. However, I still get turned down most of the time. Thankfully, I have a handful of regular places that have no problem offering me service. I wish I could access more of them, but this is just the way it is.

And no, it won't help to offer more money. Look at Buddy1978's recent post. If they charge you more, they will also offer you worse service. You'll get some desperate lady they only use to service the drunkest customers. Sounds like they pulled some gremlin out of the basement to service Buddy1978 and charged him well over a normal rate for the pleasure of the experience.

If they ever refuse to show you who will provide the service before you pay, you're better off walking away. If the provider is attractive, they'll have no problem proving it.[/QUOTE]Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.

KoreanChinese you still here buddy? I think we have like two months or so until senior?

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683882]I think it was a mistake admitting you were a Korean American. Next time just say you're Korean. But surprised they even asked if you were a foreigner, might have been just his intuition / your accent / etc? .[/QUOTE]If he said he was Korean it would have been easily called out since he said he is a "kyopo with middling Korean language skills". No offense but if you're not Korean, or have not studied Korean for many years you can easily tell if someone isn't Korean by the way they speak, their accent, and intonation. This is coming from a Korean American who grew up in the states but studied Korean in Korea. After studying Korean for a couple years, even I can tell when someone isn't from Seoul by their accent / words or if they are a foreigner.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683884]Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.[/QUOTE]I find it weird that they even use those numbers. Should just be 100% real. Imagine if you bought a 65% real PS5 only to find out that it's just a PS4 that has games which are also available on the PS5 included. That would be a rip-off scam.

These women are essentially the same. It's weird to think about, since if they are worried about people recognizing them, then perhaps they just shouldn't be in the industry. That's my opinion anyways.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2683567]Have you tried YDP yourself?[/QUOTE]I do not like surprises so RLD is nice because I can see what I will get. YDP was impossible a few years ago, but recently have had some success. The girls inbetween the streets will almost always say yes. Maybe 3 girls in the glass houses is possible.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2683746]That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter. You need to be Korean by blood AND Korean by birth, not OR.

There are mixed race Koreans that have lived in Korea their whole lives, only to be treated like a foreigner. Imagine going to the local market every day and having to reinvent yourself. How exhausting.

For the old hands like myself, a review of Hooker Hill.

First, the bad- the hill continues to be slowly constricted by transgender bars and businesses closed by the pandemic. All shops on the ITW Hotel side (left as you're walking up) are closed and everything below the Grand Ole Opry on that side is likewise closed, to include VIP. As for the ITW Hotel? The million (s) dollar hotel planted right in the middle of hooker ville? It's no longer open. Not sure who thought that was a good business idea, but apparently the gentrification of Itaewon fell to the wayside and now this huge building sits silent and dark on the hill. Shame, it looked like a nice place.

The not as bad- although the pandemic may have hurt business overall, with the recent relaxation of rules there may be a sliver of hope of reopening. There are three non trans bars on the hill proper. At the very top is the Galleria- an old lady works there along with the middle aged one who used to work at the old Amazon Club. They're both rather unappealing without beer goggles, so I didn't bother. Back around the corner and down the hill is the Lily Club with the same hill pimp working there as always. She tried to hustle me into paying for a girl, sight unseen, but I politely rejected and left.

Further down is Bean's bar beside of the Grand Ole Opry and East West Club. Bean works there full time and has three other girls rotate in- Kay, another old timer from the old Bridge Club, and some other lady I'd never seen before. It's pretty small, so four women crowded in there is a bit much, but there is a separate room off sight. Bean still looks cute and still has that asset, but has put on a small amount of weight- like every girl on the hill. Kay looked about the same with those huge tits, but she only works weekends and I didn't get to partake. Shame because she's a sweetheart and one of my ATF.

On the main strip are four bars- Texas, Tiffany, Pandora, and Nymph. Texas is still run by Kelly and has a girl named Sarah that works there. Sarah used to work at the Avant Garde, but I had not seen her in five or six years. She's a real sweetheart, too, probably the nicest girl on the hill. A few years ago, I met her and had a really nice time. Naturally pretty, I think she had lost a lot of weight and was self conscious of the stretch marks and loose skin around her mid section. She's put the weight back on, so she's not as appealing as before, but she's still a sweetheart.

Across the street at TIffany are the famous Candy and Suzy. They're always down for whatever and pretty funny, too, so you'll always have a good time there.

Further up at the Pandora is a fairly sexy lady that I've had a pretty good time with before. Not much to say, other than she reminds me a little bit of SD Governor Kristi Noem.

The last place is Nymph and the 'lady' that works there is one that I could swear was a tranny from years ago. I've never partaken, but I could swear she's been on the hill since 2003 and was one of the first trannies.

At any rate, that's a rundown of the slowly dwindling hill scene. Is it terrible? Not really. Trannies are slowly driving out what business there is and what they don't take over, the shop owners have closed up. The girls are aging and there are no new ones, but it can still be fun. Other than the music blaring from the Grand Ole Opry, the hill itself is long past it's prime and pretty quiet.

[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2656614]I have seen many RLDs in Korea. My guess and maybe from some readings there are a few smaller ones in towns I have not been.

Dongducheon is getting older and bigger girls. But still F friendly.[/QUOTE]Travelled up to DDC this past week and it's still pretty much the same. Girls there range from 2-8 on a scale to ten.

It was still early, right at sunset, so about half the shops were closed. There were about fourteen of fifteen girls and I saw about five or six girls that looked decent.

The girl I spent time with was slightly tall (5'9" or 5'10") and had a nice body with long legs, but acted kind of doe-like and reminded me of an anime character. She was sweet, it was more transactional and not very uninhibited, but she could warm up with time.

Overall, not bad for any foriegner living in Uijeongbu or north, but I wouldn't travel 1. 5 hours one way for what could be just an average time, unless you're an explorer and / or horndog.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683884]Water marks and the shil-sa are both good standards to go off of for photos. There is also something called "shink-yul" which means how close they are to the photos. Would be "shink-yul 90% which means they are very similar to the photo but could look different due to photoshop. Some have some odd numbers like 65% or something but just know that the higher the percentage, the closer it should be to the image.[/QUOTE]Taco Yaki, right on. Shink-yul is konglish for synchronization, isn't it? I've seen that phrase used on the OP adverts and in some of the user reviews as well. However, I don't have any experience with the OPs.

I don't use the OPs because they are not only more expensive but also less likely to service a white guy. Therefore I've only ever bothered calling Hyugetels and Gunmas that offer Thai women.

I like that the Thais in Korea tend to have fair skin and east Asian features. Also, the Thais that service foreigners tend be really positive. I've had nothing but good experiences with these women.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2683887]KoreanChinese you still here buddy? I think we have like two months or so until senior?[/QUOTE]I'm here! Ya! Counting down the days until we can meet!

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2684623]For the old hands like myself, a review of Hooker Hill.

First, the bad- the hill continues to be slowly constricted by transgender bars and businesses closed by the pandemic. All shops on the ITW Hotel side (left as you're walking up) are closed and everything below the Grand Ole Opry on that side is likewise closed, to include VIP. As for the ITW Hotel? The million (s) dollar hotel planted right in the middle of hooker ville? It's no longer open. Not sure who thought that was a good business idea, but apparently the gentrification of Itaewon fell to the wayside and now this huge building sits silent and dark on the hill. Shame, it looked like a nice place.

The not as bad- although the pandemic may have hurt business overall, with the recent relaxation of rules there may be a sliver of hope of reopening. There are three non trans bars on the hill proper. At the very top is the Galleria- an old lady works there along with the middle aged one who used to work at the old Amazon Club. They're both rather unappealing without beer goggles, so I didn't bother. Back around the corner and down the hill is the Lily Club with the same hill pimp working there as always. She tried to hustle me into paying for a girl, sight unseen, but I politely rejected and left.

Further down is Bean's bar beside of the Grand Ole Opry and East West Club. Bean works there full time and has three other girls rotate in- Kay, another old timer from the old Bridge Club, and some other lady I'd never seen before. It's pretty small, so four women crowded in there is a bit much, but there is a separate room off sight. Bean still looks cute and still has that asset, but has put on a small amount of weight- like every girl on the hill. Kay looked about the same with those huge tits, but she only works weekends and I didn't get to partake. Shame because she's a sweetheart and one of my ATF.

On the main strip are four bars- Texas, Tiffany, Pandora, and Nymph. Texas is still run by Kelly and has a girl named Sarah that works there. Sarah used to work at the Avant Garde, but I had not seen her in five or six years. She's a real sweetheart, too, probably the nicest girl on the hill. A few years ago, I met her and had a really nice time. Naturally pretty, I think she had lost a lot of weight and was self conscious of the stretch marks and loose skin around her mid section. She's put the weight back on, so she's not as appealing as before, but she's still a sweetheart.

Across the street at TIffany are the famous Candy and Suzy. They're always down for whatever and pretty funny, too, so you'll always have a good time there.

Further up at the Pandora is a fairly sexy lady that I've had a pretty good time with before. Not much to say, other than she reminds me a little bit of SD Governor Kristi Noem.

The last place is Nymph and the 'lady' that works there is one that I could swear was a tranny from years ago. I've never partaken, but I could swear she's been on the hill since 2003 and was one of the first trannies.

At any rate, that's a rundown of the slowly dwindling hill scene. Is it terrible? Not really. Trannies are slowly driving out what business there is and what they don't take over, the shop owners have closed up. The girls are aging and there are no new ones, but it can still be fun. Other than the music blaring from the Grand Ole Opry, the hill itself is long past it's prime and pretty quiet.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks, even if the news is gloomy about the legendary hill.

[QUOTE=BokehNikon;2683699]Good advice. I'm a kyopo with middling Korean language skills. I recently tried calling up a local officetel (just once). The manager (actually, in this business they seem to refer to the girls as managers) asked me if I was a foreigner and I responded I was a Korean American. The manager was nice enough, apologized and said even if he could allow me to book, the girls don't like to take foreigners. I think I could have persuaded or offered a little more money but oh well.[/QUOTE]Bokehnikon, you're on the right track. Calling is the right move. You'll get a much quicker response if you call rather than text message. A lot of officetels seem to outright ignore all texts.

If you want service, be prepared to make a handful of calls and also make sure to call around to different neighborhoods. I have a feeling that a lot of the officetels in a single neighborhood are operated by the same group of people. So a no from one officetel, might mean a no from the others.

Regardless, keep calling and I'm sure that you'll find at least one that will make good.

The lack of escorts lately kills me. Used to have so many good non-Korean options from 2016-2019 but they've vanished due to covid probably.

Now MR is populated with these post op transgenders claiming to be from random southeast Asian countries like Bhutan, Malaysia, etc while trying to charge 300 k per shot on an incall. Then they have the audacity to be selective about the nationality of the people they see. They absolutely refuse to do outcalls which leads me to believe that they are not independent. Probably have a Korean handler who will not let them leave their areas like most Korean handlers do.

The remaining escorts are 45 year old Koreans with fake pictures who charge insane fees like 500,000 per hour.

Anybody have a good connection where I can get something decent to take a trip to me on a outcall? Living 2 hours away from Seoul in the middle of nowhere sucks. I can find plenty of "massage" spots near me where I simply walk in and pay 120 k for BBBJCFS with a decent Thai but I miss the intimacy of an escort coming to my home or hotel. Willing to pay for the roundtrip transportation.

[QUOTE=KoreanChinese;2684756]I'm here! Ya! Counting down the days until we can meet![/QUOTE]Hey guys, I will be in town around mid June, I would also be willing to do a meet up as well. My Korean is descent as I have studied it back in the states and as a gyopo (Korean expat), I'm sure I can be of assistance to searching for the best options. Keep me in mind when you become seniors.

[QUOTE=Jjmanse;2685805]Hey guys, I will be in town around mid June, I would also be willing to do a meet up as well. My Korean is descent as I have studied it back in the states and as a gyopo (Korean expat), I'm sure I can be of assistance to searching for the best options. Keep me in mind when you become seniors..[/QUOTE]Likewise, I will also be in Seoul for most of June. While my Korean is limited (I plan on studying Korean with a tutor for a month and a half straight after finals week), I'm sure I can assist in some way. If you guys go somewhere else, such as Tokyo, I can help you out or arrange a meet-up there in the future if we happen to be in Tokyo at the same time because I am more familiar with the scene there.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2685111]The lack of escorts lately kills me. Used to have so many good non-Korean options from 2016-2019 but they've vanished due to covid probably.

Now MR is populated with these post op transgenders claiming to be from random southeast Asian countries like Bhutan, Malaysia, etc while trying to charge 300 k per shot on an incall. Then they have the audacity to be selective about the nationality of the people they see. They absolutely refuse to do outcalls which leads me to believe that they are not independent. Probably have a Korean handler who will not let them leave their areas like most Korean handlers do.

The remaining escorts are 45 year old Koreans with fake pictures who charge insane fees like 500,000 per hour.

Anybody have a good connection where I can get something decent to take a trip to me on a outcall? Living 2 hours away from Seoul in the middle of nowhere sucks. I can find plenty of "massage" spots near me where I simply walk in and pay 120 k for BBBJCFS with a decent Thai but I miss the intimacy of an escort coming to my home or hotel. Willing to pay for the roundtrip transportation.[/QUOTE]Ahh the Korean escort on MR who charges insane fees, I think I know who you're talking about. I saw her a few years ago and was shocked to see a much older women than what was on her ad, still paid the insane fee because I was still new to the scene and was afraid to walk away.

BTW do you have any info on Hana or Suji on MR? I was planning on seeing Hana actually a few years ago, but complications arose regarding the incall and settled for the aforementioned escort. Was considering seeing them again if I can't get an reservation with opstar in June.

There are a few non-Korean escort on MR that are white and do outcall, not sure if you're into them.

But yes I agree, the lack of escorts in general is sad. Hopefully there are more escorts that cater to foreigners in the future.

[QUOTE=Jjmanse;2685805]Hey guys, I will be in town around mid June, I would also be willing to do a meet up as well. My Korean is descent as I have studied it back in the states and as a gyopo (Korean expat), I'm sure I can be of assistance to searching for the best options. Keep me in mind when you become seniors.[/QUOTE]You'll need to post more yourself! You need 25 posts to be a senior member as well as six months activity.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2684623]For the old hands like myself, a review of Hooker Hill.

First, the bad- the hill continues to be slowly constricted by transgender bars and businesses closed by the pandemic. All shops on the ITW Hotel side (left as you're walking up) are closed and everything below the Grand Ole Opry on that side is likewise closed, to include VIP. As for the ITW Hotel? The million (s) dollar hotel planted right in the middle of hooker ville? It's no longer open. Not sure who thought that was a good business idea, but apparently the gentrification of Itaewon fell to the wayside and now this huge building sits silent and dark on the hill. Shame, it looked like a nice place.

The not as bad- although the pandemic may have hurt business overall, with the recent relaxation of rules there may be a sliver of hope of reopening. There are three non trans bars on the hill proper. At the very top is the Galleria- an old lady works there along with the middle aged one who used to work at the old Amazon Club. They're both rather unappealing without beer goggles, so I didn't bother. Back around the corner and down the hill is the Lily Club with the same hill pimp working there as always. She tried to hustle me into paying for a girl, sight unseen, but I politely rejected and left..[/QUOTE]The left of the hill has actually gone out of business long before COVID. I have lived in Korea since 2019 and that left side was empty even then. I also came to Korea as a tourist in 2018 and I can't recall seeing any of those spots open. I believe a lot of those Hooker Hill spots died down when the American military was relocated outside Yongsan and into Osan or Pyeongtaek. That cut down on a lot of the Hooker Hill traffic, which mostly catered to foreigners. As the ladies get older without any new ones taking their place, it also becomes harder to attract new clients who may be looking for younger women.

The hotel on the left side of the hill shut down in 2020, and that was indeed due to COVID. I used to go there often in 2020 for hookups. There also used to be a hotel above Thursday Party (going up the stairs on the left side), which I believe has closed as well.

[QUOTE=MooseWings;2686138]Likewise, I will also be in Seoul for most of June. While my Korean is limited (I plan on studying Korean with a tutor for a month and a half straight after finals week), I'm sure I can assist in some way. If you guys go somewhere else, such as Tokyo, I can help you out or arrange a meet-up there in the future if we happen to be in Tokyo at the same time because I am more familiar with the scene there.[/QUOTE]I'll be in Seoul I'm June as well. Same situation, kyopo with average Korean skills. It's great that COVID restrictions are starting to lift, thing are looking up at that time. Lets find a way to meet up!

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2686165]You'll need to post more yourself! You need 25 posts to be a senior member as well as six months activity.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are correct. I have been around for more than six months but I need to make more posts. If worst comes to worst I'll just pay for membership when the time comes.

[QUOTE=Sleep949;2686244]I'll be in Seoul I'm June as well. Same situation, kyopo with average Korean skills. It's great that COVID restrictions are starting to lift, thing are looking up at that time. Lets find a way to meet up![/QUOTE]As mentioned, you need to be a senior or paid member to send messages and receive them. Looks like you haven't been around long enough to get the senior membership so paying would be your best option.

It's interesting to see so many people coming to Korea in June. Why is that? Is it due to the relaxation of the COVID mandates and travel regulations?

[QUOTE=Jjmanse;2686506]As mentioned, you need to be a senior or paid member to send messages and receive them. Looks like you haven't been around long enough to get the senior membership so paying would be your best option.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I may just bite the bullet and purchase the membership sometime in April as my account won't be old enough by the time June rolls around.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2686671]It's interesting to see so many people coming to Korea in June. Why is that? Is it due to the relaxation of the COVID mandates and travel regulations?[/QUOTE]That's definitely why I am going. If I had to sit through a week of quarantine, that's almost a grand I'm blowing on being alone at a hotel.

Visited Lyra (formerly known as Castle?) on Easter Sunday in mid-afternoon. Had trouble finding precise directions on this form, but it's pretty easy. Exit Seolleung metro, walk past McDonalds, and then turn left on the short street 48; you'll see it on right before the road T's. Can confirm 310 k upon entry; I tried to negotiate at the counter but they were having none of it.

Was led up to an empty room to drop my bag, then into the main room with the girl. Met Areum. Was happy to see she was good looking; not as skinny as some Koreans, but not chubby either; decent fake tits; said she was 28 and looked it too. Took an unrushed sensual table shower with body-to-body gliding and sucking all over, especially the stick and berries. After the shower we moved to the bed for more foreplay, BJ-applied-condom, and then the full act. She couldn't take an actual hard-deep pounding (I'm no Mandingo / Danny the but also not Asian), so slow-and-easy was the race. I sometimes take time to pop but Areum was a good sport, let me flip her around, and continued the turned-on act until release. This was my first Seoul adventure. Overall it was a quite pleasant experience, though at the price I still would have appreciated an actual massage.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2683746]That's ridiculous considering how you are still a Korean by blood. It blows my mind how picky these people can be towards foreigners.[/QUOTE]It's not entirely a bad thing that the women are able to refuse service. It means that when we do get service, it is because the women genuinely want to offer a good time, which makes for a pleasant experience. I mean, the last thing I want to do is fuck someone who is begrudgingly spending time with me. I've done it, you've probably done it, and we all know that it's not exactly the greatest way to bust a nut.

Among the reasons I have heard that these women do not want to spend time with foreigners, the most often repeated reasons are threefold. They are worried about big dicks, being jackhammered painfully, and poor communication leading to misunderstanding.

These girls get fucked a lot, so if they can minimize the difficulty of their job by refusing to service big dicks, then it's hard to criticize them. But it isn't just the size they are worried about, they assume that foreigners, even Korean American foreigners, are porno obsessed mongers who will fuck hard, long, and fast. Again, they refuse service as a means of protecting their pussies from being unrelentingly jackhammered. They are also worried that we won't listen if they try to tell us to slow down, change position, or stop doing something painful. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Although those are the three biggest reasons that we are refused service, they aren't the only ones. There is also the worry that we will get caught up in the law and create additional complications for everyone. Keep in mind that these illegal businesses are either willfully ignored by the police or supported and protected by them. Having foreigners involved, even Korean Americans, might create waves that no one wants to deal with. In this regard, they may be refusing service simply to protect their interests.

Add to this the commonly held belief that normal foreigners should be able to score outside of the services offered by these women and suddenly foreign mongers are all considered abnormal even beyond the standards that all foreigners are considered abnormal. We are automatically categorized as outsiders even among foreigners and we are assumed to be fat, ugly, smelly, hairy, miserable, mean, etc.

I've been told as much. Post-coitus, I've been told that a big dick wasn't as bad as imagined and that I didn't fuck like a guy in a porn video. In other words, they were happy that I hadn't just beat up their pussy. I've also had women tell me that they were surprised I wasn't a fat slob.

I hope this goes without saying, but considering all of this, if you do score at an Officetel or Hyugetel, be on your best behaviour. For what it's worth, each time you are with one of these women, you are building a reputation for yourself, and if your reputation is positive then other women will be likely to offer you service.

When I initially got my foot in the door at a Hyugetel, I wasn't allowed to pick my partner. Only one woman had reluctantly agreed to be with a foreigner and she was my only choice. But on subsequent excursions, I was provided access to every woman on the menu because of the positive reviews that I was given after my first few encounters. Word quickly got around that I was a good customer. A couple of women were even adamant that I book their friends who worked at the same Hyugetel.

I wish this sort of word of mouth would pass between Hyugetels, Officetels, and Gunmas all around the city, but it doesn't seem to work that way. You're considered to be a risky customer until you can prove otherwise, but you won't be given the opportunity to prove it because you're considered to be a risky customer. It's a catch 22 that's not easy to escape, but it is possible to find a business willing to offer services.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2686671]It's interesting to see so many people coming to Korea in June. Why is that? Is it due to the relaxation of the COVID mandates and travel regulations?[/QUOTE]Relaxation of covid restrictions is prob my main reason. I was originally supposed to go to Japan, but I don't think they'll open in time before I start my masters program in spring. I chose June because from what I heard, it's waay too hot in July.

[QUOTE=Facebook2;2685111]The lack of escorts lately kills me. Used to have so many good non-Korean options from 2016-2019 but they've vanished due to covid probably.

Now MR is populated with these post op transgenders claiming to be from random southeast Asian countries like Bhutan, Malaysia, etc while trying to charge 300 k per shot on an incall. Then they have the audacity to be selective about the nationality of the people they see. They absolutely refuse to do outcalls which leads me to believe that they are not independent. Probably have a Korean handler who will not let them leave their areas like most Korean handlers do.

The remaining escorts are 45 year old Koreans with fake pictures who charge insane fees like 500,000 per hour.

Anybody have a good connection where I can get something decent to take a trip to me on a outcall? Living 2 hours away from Seoul in the middle of nowhere sucks. I can find plenty of "massage" spots near me where I simply walk in and pay 120 k for BBBJCFS with a decent Thai but I miss the intimacy of an escort coming to my home or hotel. Willing to pay for the roundtrip transportation.[/QUOTE]Have you tried swapping contact information with the Thai ladies at the massage shop. I'm sure quite a few would be willing to meet at your place. They may even offer additional services if you meet outside their place of work.

I saw ads before but now can not find them again. Can someone point in the direction of how to hook up with a and k in the south?

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2686671]It's interesting to see so many people coming to Korea in June. Why is that? Is it due to the relaxation of the COVID mandates and travel regulations?[/QUOTE]Until the next round of covid hits and things get stupid again LOL.

[QUOTE=DexFerty;2686165]You'll need to post more yourself! You need 25 posts to be a senior member as well as six months activity.[/QUOTE]I wonder what they use to measure the 6 months of activity. How active do you have to be during that time?

[QUOTE=Pranked;2686884]Visited Lyra (formerly known as Castle?) on Easter Sunday in mid-afternoon. Had trouble finding precise directions on this form, but it's pretty easy. Exit Seolleung metro, walk past McDonalds, and then turn left on the short street 48; you'll see it on right before the road T's. Can confirm 310 k upon entry; I tried to negotiate at the counter but they were having none of it.

Was led up to an empty room to drop my bag, then into the main room with the girl. Met Areum. Was happy to see she was good looking; not as skinny as some Koreans, but not chubby either; decent fake tits; said she was 28 and looked it too. Took an unrushed sensual table shower with body-to-body gliding and sucking all over, especially the stick and berries. After the shower we moved to the bed for more foreplay, BJ-applied-condom, and then the full act. She couldn't take an actual hard-deep pounding (I'm no Mandingo / Danny the but also not Asian), so slow-and-easy was the race. I sometimes take time to pop but Areum was a good sport, let me flip her around, and continued the turned-on act until release. This was my first Seoul adventure. Overall it was a quite pleasant experience, though at the price I still would have appreciated an actual massage.[/QUOTE]For 310 k I was given a pathetic lady who was 45+.

Awful service, hurried up incessantly and was awful to look at. Next time I go, I will call this out explicitly and see if they give me a good provider, else I will walk away instead of trying to be nice and she'll out 310 k. This is a ridiculous price for such a poor experience. I felt scoring at King Watpho was a much better option, the girls are better looking and the massage is good too.

I am assuming you are a Korean, that's why you got a decent looking option.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2687437]I wonder what they use to measure the 6 months of activity. How active do you have to be during that time?[/QUOTE]If you look at the FAQs, you only have to be a forum member for 6 months and have 25 posts. It doesn't say there is a req. To be regularly active.

Last week I decided I'd like to add some Hyugetels to my list of "places I am allowed to visit".

I figured it would be nice to have more options available, and thus I followed my own advice and called upwards of twenty. From all of those calls I got a green light from only two Hyugetels.

One at Gangnam station was willing to offer service, but needed to check in with the providers first. I was fairly certain that they would approve me, because they had hired women I had slept with at other establishments in the past, but among their current lineup were women I had never seen before. Unfortunately, none were willing to join me. I'll try back again when their lineup changes. Anyway, it was nice to get a maybe rather than an outright no.

The other, near Seolleung station, was quick to offer service. As far as I could tell, it was a brand new ad (I had certainly never seen it before), which may explain why they were willing to get me in the door.

Without any reviews posted on Opstar, they may have expected business to be slow and were ready to do whatever it takes to get a new customer. I was happy to take advantage and be among their first.

From start to finish the experience was great. After requesting a woman, course, and an extra option I was asked to provide a picture of my ID card. Not all Hyugetels require guests to send ID, but I've done it enough that it's no longer a cause for concern. The Hyugetel then followed up by sending me their address, and later when I arrived I called to request the building door code and room number. It's all par for the course and it went exactly as expected. More importantly, the service offered behind closed doors was great and I have every intention of returning. 40 minutes of shower, kissing, rimming, DATY, BBBJ, and CIP for 120,000.

As always, it's nice to have more options.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2687699]For 310 k I was given a pathetic lady who was 45+.

Awful service, hurried up incessantly and was awful to look at. Next time I go, I will call this out explicitly and see if they give me a good provider, else I will walk away instead of trying to be nice and she'll out 310 k. This is a ridiculous price for such a poor experience. I felt scoring at King Watpho was a much better option, the girls are better looking and the massage is good too.

I am assuming you are a Korean, that's why you got a decent looking option.[/QUOTE]Hate to tell you, but he said he isn't Asian in that review, which would mean he isn't Korean. I suspect they may have had nobody who was willing to see a foreigner, besides the old lady, but they still wanted your cash.