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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1834813]Is it really a sexual expression? Skeptical.

I have not noticed this so often on girl's facebook pages or Instagram or similar, but have noticed that Thai girls do like to make funny faces at times. One girl I liked would exaggerate her lip pout for fun. Another common one is making a hand shape like a gun, then point it way from side of the face with thumb resting on the side of the chin. I have heard the term "gek lor" for this action, but don't fully understand the meaning or why.

Thai girls love to make special poses for photos rather than try to look very casual natural.[/QUOTE]Okay guys, I appreciate your feedback. But, I was able to get an answer direct from a Thai girl I enjoyed a webcam chat with recently. The protuding tongue, is simply a way to look cute, and is popular the way that American bimbos do the silly "duckface". She assured me it was nothing sexual, though it wasn't anything she would do herself (she came off as a bit educated, though she was only a hairdresser).

That said, I learned a few lessons about how you can misread Thai women on the dating sites. I had flagged some girls I'd seen on ThaiFriendly, as possible P4 P candidates (and those are on there to be sure) based on their scanty clothing and provocative poses, as well as lacking a profile giving their objectives. One young lady, had a bounty of pictures posted in lingerie, cleavage promient and her aureola peering out from her top. I checked her profile recently and her profile was an angry rant about her being mistaken as a FL. She posted something like "If you want to fuck, go to Pattaya and get a bargirl". She wasn't the only one who had updated her description after posting rather provocative pictures on TF. Another, I had flagged, posted a similar angry rant and said "If you don't want to marry me, don't contact me" In their desperation to get attention and attract a mate, it seems these girls might have sent out the wrong message. I can understand why. The competition is formidable.

The point to us is, not to rush to make judgement on appearances alone. Otherwise, we make a case for those bimbos who promote "SLUTWALK". I'm sure those of you on the ground in the LOS or those who have ample experience there, might chime in on how to better get a read on the ordinary girls.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1839314]Okay guys, I appreciate your feedback. But, I was able to get an answer direct from a Thai girl I enjoyed a webcam chat with recently. The protuding tongue, is simply a way to look cute, and is popular the way that American bimbos do the silly "duckface". She assured me it was nothing sexual, though it wasn't anything she would do herself (she came off as a bit educated, though she was only a hairdresser).

That said, I learned a few lessons about how you can misread Thai women on the dating sites. I had flagged some girls I'd seen on ThaiFriendly, as possible P4 P candidates (and those are on there to be sure) based on their scanty clothing and provocative poses, as well as lacking a profile giving their objectives. One young lady, had a bounty of pictures posted in lingerie, cleavage promient and her aureola peering out from her top. I checked her profile recently and her profile was an angry rant about her being mistaken as a FL. She posted something like "If you want to fuck, go to Pattaya and get a bargirl". She wasn't the only one who had updated her description after posting rather provocative pictures on TF. Another, I had flagged, posted a similar angry rant and said "If you don't want to marry me, don't contact me" In their desperation to get attention and attract a mate, it seems these girls might have sent out the wrong message. I can understand why. The competition is formidable.

The point to us is, not to rush to make judgement on appearances alone. Otherwise, we make a case for those bimbos who promote "SLUTWALK". I'm sure those of you on the ground in the LOS or those who have ample experience there, might chime in on how to better get a read on the ordinary girls.[/QUOTE]I found both my previous Thai GF and my present Thai GF on dating sites (respectively Date-in-Asia and ThaiFriendly). It is indeed very difficult to gauge their intentions based upon the photos they post. Even their profiles, or lack thereof, are not to be taken as scripture.

Going slowly slowly and sending them many messages is the best way forward and even then nothing is certain.

Maybe I was just lucky, but both of them stayed the night in my room after we first met and had dinner. By letting her in control and not rushing things, she did not feel threathened and after a while melted in my arms and we had good sex.

I guess they get so many blunt and sexually-tinted messages, they really appreciate someone who they can first see as a friend rather than a sex-partner.

Of course that takes time and it would be bad to abuse their thrust. If you are not looking for a GF, but rather for a one-night stand then the bars and discos of Pattaya are a better hunting ground.

Yes, I'm sure there must be professional girls on these websites, but frankly I find it a waste of time and effort to try and find them there as it is so easy to find them in any bar or club in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1839436]I found both my previous Thai GF and my present Thai GF on dating sites (respectively Date-in-Asia and ThaiFriendly). It is indeed very difficult to gauge their intentions based upon the photos they post. Even their profiles, or lack thereof, are not to be taken as scripture.



Of course that takes time and it would be bad to abuse their thrust. If you are not looking for a GF, but rather for a one-night stand then the bars and discos of Pattaya are a better hunting ground.

[/QUOTE]Well, I definitely appreciate the GFE that comes from a real girlfriend (even if she is your girlfriend for a few days only). But, I also appreciate the skills and services that you can enjoy with total selfishness, that come with a real professional wh*re. There is a place for both, and I have figured out how to work it into my plans. I wouldn't want to abuse their trust, but I am also aware they are likely playing the field as well. I took my profile of TF down, after building a portfolio of contacts. Did any of them remove their profiles after I told I was going to do that? No, of course not and I won't fault them for that.

Now as you commented earlier in a different thread, its easy to meet lots of girls on Thai dating sites and you have to cut them loose at some point. I've met a bunch of girls online but as you have probably noticed. And I was also advised of this on another Thai dating site. The girls will lose interest very quickly, even if you are on your best behavior. That dwindles the numbers down. There are some who communicate erratically but you have to question their interest and how sincere they are, as well.

One young cutie, who is from far up north in Isaan, and working in a mall way down South (a short distance from Pattaya) has been obsessively web cam chatting with me, but is also very secretive. Often looking over her shoulder when we web cam, or ending calls abrubtly. Once I noticed a large photo on her wall. A wedding photo of a bride and groom. I asked her who the couple were. She ended the call abruptly. She is excited about me visiting her. I just asked if I should stay with her. Her response was her place wasn't very nice, so I absolutely couldn't stay there, but a hotel on the beach would be great. I'm not anticipating much guilt about anything I'm about to do with her. 555.

That said, I am sure there are some truly "nice girls" I can meet. But if they don't want to have me over, or come up to my hotel room, I don't need to pressure them nor do I need to seduce them if I find there is no chemistry. As you said, I have so many options for easy sex. Maybe the young lady wants to have a second date, but its later in the week (I'm looking to stay three weeks), then I can entertain myself with my "short-term" options, right? As you said, not rushing things and letting the woman be in control is a good strategy. And what better way to relax and take it easy, than to know you have so many other options. I'm seeing the LOS as a great place for a man who is confident with women, but not afraid to pay for their company. We have our choices at least. As we should all know by now, sex costs money no matter who provides it. Dates can be as expensive as hiring a working girl, and gifts for your girlfriend can get expensive. Honestly, I don't see myself spending much money on a hotel if I am only out mongering, whereas you don't take your date to a budget hotel and expect her to be impressed. I can see the cost of lodging spiking when you are out to impress your date. So, I won't be hooking up with girlfriend-material girls for the purpose of "free" sex.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1839436]Yes, I'm sure there must be professional girls on these websites, but frankly I find it a waste of time and effort to try and find them there as it is so easy to find them in any bar or club in Thailand.[/QUOTE]+1 to that. I have a GF already. I don't need two. It is either one or nothing. Much easier to monger with no pretence of being single. I also make it clear that it doesn't matter to me if the girl has one or 3 boyfriends already.

P4 p girls and semi-P4 P really appreciate being able to have a close friendly relationship with a guy, with sex, without the guy prying into her personal business, and putting pressure on her. I was having regular sex with one P4 P girl, who had a BF knowing nothing about her P4 P activity, yet I was somehow hooked on her. Later she dumped the BF (he put her under too much pressure). I had no clue of course, how many other suitors there were. I was disappointed when she retired and it all stopped, however thankful the reasonable period of great experiences. I could have been after if I had no GF, potentially. She was a hell of a lot of fun, even on a short holiday.

Spending one night in Bangkok for a visa run. I've been through there before and done the whole Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy thing. I'm wondering what else is out there. Flying into Suvarnabhumi in the afternoon and back out the next. Don't want to spend half my time chatting up a girl that might not be looking for a LT encounter. Anything close to the airport worth staying at or checking out? I always liked Phuket more than BKK. Dark skin, shaved, and never got refused back door service. Any good options for that anyone can recommend? Basically hoping for a LT GFE with no boundaries.

I like watching Thailand vids on youtube, some interesting stuff being shown for all to see. Been watching this guy who's youtube handle is '20 seconds in Thailand', one of his first video's was him saying how bad life was becoming back home in the states and how he lost his job and decided to move to Thailand. How does one who's lost one's job just get up and move across the world and continue to find money to survive in a foreign country? Yeah, youtube's giving him some cash with views but it can't be much. I also undertand that you can live on alot less but you still need money coming in. Unemployment checks from the states paying for him to live in the land of smiles?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1888654]I like watching Thailand vids on youtube, some interesting stuff being shown for all to see. Been watching this guy who's youtube handle is '20 seconds in Thailand', one of his first video's was him saying how bad life was becoming back home in the states and how he lost his job and decided to move to Thailand. How does one who's lost one's job just get up and move across the world and continue to find money to survive in a foreign country? Yeah, youtube's giving him some cash with views but it can't be much. I also undertand that you can live on alot less but you still need money coming in. Unemployment checks from the states paying for him to live in the land of smiles?[/QUOTE]Not sure how he began, but 20 seconds dude now has a Patreon that's close to cracking $1,000 per month. That's what most teachers make! Ah, where did I go wrong.

[QUOTE=ThingStick;1888809]Not sure how he began, but 20 seconds dude now has a Patreon that's close to cracking $1,000 per month. That's what most teachers make! Ah, where did I go wrong.[/QUOTE]In one of his first dozen or so video's he mentioned someone told him to move to Thailand if his job didn't work out. He then got laid off and decided to move to Thailand. Didn't sound like he had much if any savings so I'm guessing some for of unemployment was (or is) paying his way. Youtube pays based on views and his views aren't high enough to make him more than a few bucks here and there. It takes balls though to move to a country without a means of support, not like you can get a job at the local seven eleven. And you can't depend on one person's donations for long before that source of income dries up.

So what's the lowest amout of usd's needed to live in Thailand. Rent, food, transportion, the occasional visa run. I'm going to guess $600 usd per month would be the absolute minimum. That would give you just over 21000 baht. 4 k to 7 k on rent would leave you with 400 baht per day spending money.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1889034]In one of his first dozen or so video's he mentioned someone told him to move to Thailand if his job didn't work out. He then got laid off and decided to move to Thailand. Didn't sound like he had much if any savings so I'm guessing some for of unemployment was (or is) paying his way. Youtube pays based on views and his views aren't high enough to make him more than a few bucks here and there. It takes balls though to move to a country without a means of support, not like you can get a job at the local seven eleven. And you can't depend on one person's donations for long before that source of income dries up.

So what's the lowest amout of usd's needed to live in Thailand. Rent, food, transportion, the occasional visa run. I'm going to guess $600 usd per month would be the absolute minimum. That would give you just over 21000 baht. 4 k to 7 k on rent would leave you with 400 baht per day spending money.[/QUOTE]The lowest (minimally comfortable) amount of USD I calculated out of curiosity just a few days ago was about $750 per month. That included what you mentioned but I added electricity (occasional aircon) and at least a smartphone with internet access. If you pushed it to $1000-$1100 per month you could include a couple of visits to a BJ bar per week or a ST or two with a Sukhumvit freelancer per week.

This wouldn't be living in some rat infested apartment in the outlying shanty town areas of Bangkok either. It could be no more than a 10-15 minute walk or 10 baht motorcycle taxi ride to Sukhumvit and Asok.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1889034]Rent, food, transportion, the occasional visa run.[/QUOTE]Be aware the entire visa situation has been cracked down since 3 years or so. There is no more 2 or 3 entry tourist visa, only single or multiple, the latter last for 6 months in country as before but requires extensive qualifications (varies by country) to be had, 2 border runs and 3 extension at Bt 1,900 each. Student visa require a lot of hours and attendance / proficiency is verified. Repeated visa exempt entries is out of question. The only ones doing relatively easy are married people (which need to show Bt 400,000 in bank) or over 50 (show 800,000).

[QUOTE=Breadman]Youtube pays based on views and his views aren't high enough to make him more than a few bucks here and there.[/QUOTE]Patreon is different. You are paid monthly per supporter, which you can identify and interact directly. As long you can keep them satisfied and/or get new ones, you're OK. I know one guy which recently started with it, to be honest his content is truly awesome and suited.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1889130]The lowest (minimally comfortable) amount of USD I calculated out of curiosity just a few days ago was about $750 per month. That included what you mentioned but I added electricity (occasional aircon) and at least a smartphone with internet access. If you pushed it to $1000-$1100 per month you could include a couple of visits to a BJ bar per week or a ST or two with a Sukhumvit freelancer per week.

This wouldn't be living in some rat infested apartment in the outlying shanty town areas of Bangkok either. It could be no more than a 10-15 minute walk or 10 baht motorcycle taxi ride to Sukhumvit and Asok.[/QUOTE]The guy lives in phuket, saw a video where he said he's paying 7000 baht per month for a brand new condo. Phuket or pattaya would be the cheapest options, rent and electric for under $250 per month if not less.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1889250]Be aware the entire visa situation has been cracked down since 3 years or so. There is no more 2 or 3 entry tourist visa, only single or multiple, the latter last for 6 months in country as before but requires extensive qualifications (varies by country) to be had, 2 border runs and 3 extension at Bt 1,900 each. Student visa require a lot of hours and attendance / proficiency is verified. Repeated visa exempt entries is out of question. The only ones doing relatively easy are married people (which need to show Bt 400,000 in bank) or over 50 (show 800,000).

Patreon is different. You are paid monthly per supporter, which you can identify and interact directly. As long you can keep them satisfied and/or get new ones, you're OK. I know one guy which recently started with it, to be honest his content is truly awesome and suited.[/QUOTE]That's almost $23,000. That seems very high. So if I marry a Thai lady and move to Thailand, I need to keep a balance that high in a bank account? That weeds out the freeloaders. Do you also need a special permanent Visa?

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1889451]That's almost $23,000. That seems very high. So if I marry a Thai lady and move to Thailand, I need to keep a balance that high in a bank account? That weeds out the freeloaders. Do you also need a special permanent Visa?
[/QUOTE]If married, either 400,000 Bt. deposited, or an embassy-certified 40,000 Bt / month income. I called these visa but the correct name (when obtained in Thailand at Immigration) is "extension of stay", which is renewed every year, indefinitely. See attached.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1889412]The guy lives in phuket, saw a video where he said he's paying 7000 baht per month for a brand new condo. Phuket or pattaya would be the cheapest options, rent and electric for under $250 per month if not less.[/QUOTE]On the side topic of what the minimum monthly USD amount one would want or need to live in Thailand, yes, location is one of the main variables. My calculations were assuming living in Bangkok under reasonably comfortable conditions. Although rent (easily doable at 7000-8000 THB per month for an aircon room, no kitchen, even in the Sukhumvit / Asok area) and your smartphone or tablet data / internet access package are predictable monthly expenses, utility / electric expenses are only somewhat predictable within a given range. Then there are other less predictable variables that can make a big difference; food, "dating", if any, and the THB to USD exchange rate. You can eat more western style meals and enjoy a few more or higher quality "dates" per week/month when the THB to USD rate is closer to 35 than 30.

And on the visa issue, I admit I was assuming the over age 50 annual retirement visa that I have; 1900 THB annual at Thai Immigration plus $50 USD annual at the USA Embassy for a notarized income verification letter.

Also, it turns out that first issued income verification statement, possibly from the Thai consulate in your home USA state or city, is very likely (but certainly not guaranteed) the only time you will need to show documentation of the equivalent of 800,000 THB on hand or an income stream of 65,000 THB per month (Social Security, pension, rental property income, whatever) or a combination of the two that supports that general level of solvency. At least at the USA Embassy, in order to renew that visa every year, a notarized income verification letter, which is the only income verification document asked for at Thai Immigration any of the several times I have renewed my annual visa including just last month, has been issued to me without any documentation required and based soley on what I state on a very simple form is my monthly income in USD.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1889412]The guy lives in phuket, saw a video where he said he's paying 7000 baht per month for a brand new condo. Phuket or pattaya would be the cheapest options, rent and electric for under $250 per month if not less.[/QUOTE]In the past Patong, Phuket was always a lot more expensive for equivalent standard Hotel accommodation compared to Sukhumvit Bangkok.

If he can get a new condo for 7000 baht per month, it must be small basic or inconveniently located, or have times really changed? I don't go to Patong any more, but always used to be an expensive place.