Manila

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2432437]I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).[/QUOTE]I hope you are speaking for yourself mate. In over 20 years in this hobby, no once have I dropped the ball on my privacy. The girls know me by the name I wish to be known. Sure, your boarding pass, baggage tags, hotel TV display could all give things away, but that is down to how careful you are. Please avoid generalizing this.

As for sending money online, even to girls you know and want to see again, that is a slippery slope. But you know that already.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2432437]I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!

I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).

Often I send girls a Grab. It presents two advantages, the girls is flattered that you send her a car, and you can monitor where she is, which is such a useful information vs. The girl telling her she's OTW when she's not. But if the girl pays attention, she can see your full name on the phone of the driver.

At the hotel when you go take shower, when you take a nap, the girl will often turn on the TV. In any semi upscale hotel when you turn the TV on, it displays a message like "Hello John Doe, welcome to our hotel blah blah ".

Note that aside from the digital world, when you go take a shower the girl can simply check your luggage tag but if you're smart you can take it off.

When you're in the hallways or at the buffet, hotel staff tend to call by your name especially if you're a regular client or what they consider a (semi) VIP (IE: you're a gold or platinum member in their hotel group loyalty program).

When you're home girls will ask you for 500 pesos to buy rice or whatever. Once in a while with a girl you want to see again, you're inclined to send her. Now the girl are smart they have paypal and of course if you send them a paypal there goes your privacy).

If a girl wants revenge, wants to blackmail you claiming she's pregnant etc. I can see a lot of reasons where the lack of privacy can become a problem. Especially for those fishing on dating sites and making semi fake promises and having girls dreaming of a better future getting brutally dumped after the first date![/QUOTE]If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2432437]I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).[/QUOTE]I was concerned about them knowing my name for awhile but after thinking about it, not any longer. My name is common (first and last name) so it is useless by itself for anyone to find me. My phone is dedicated to Philippines so all pinay calls are corraled there. Other precautions I take are that I do not ever use Facebook, try hard to avoid getting in photos, and always pay by cash in country avoiding CC identity theft. My phone and laptop are password protected so useless if looked at while I am in the shower or sleeping. Maybe I am too complacent for some gents but I am divorced with no SO to worry about. The biggest hole I see in my privacy is the hotel registration detail made thru a lodging travel site. With inside help from a desk person someone could find out a lot.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2432495]If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.[/QUOTE]I am not concerned either. In 30 years of mongering I have never had a problem with girls knowing my name. Hell, I exchange Line & Viber ID's with the girls I like even after a first night. I exchange email addresses and a lot more with my perennial repeat girls. My favorite girls all know my name. So what ? I am a single/divorced American man. I trust my girls not to do anything real stupid, so as to upset the apple cart and force me to drop them. The worst blowback I have ever received was the occasional sob story and a plea for some wired money.

I would not enjoy this sport half as much as I do if I worried about my ID falling into the "wrong hands", or getting a girl pregnant, or even catching something. It is all part of the game. Use your senses and don't be stupid. That's all. Basically there is nothing to worry about. I might add that I am not a politician's son or a public figure. I got nothing to hide. I am an open book. I like young Asian girls and they kind of like me back in their own way. If anyone has a problem with that they should stay home, get married, eat too much, and never get laid. Ha Ha. Up to you.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2432495]If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.[/QUOTE]What if he has an SO? I know a case where my buddy was screwed by a Filipino free lancer. He helped her get a visa to the US, and she spent a month with him. He got her a hotel room and even took her to Vegas. But she was expecting to stay in the US and marry him. When it did not happen, she wreaked havoc with his life. She managed to get most of his email addresses and passwords.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2432495]If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.[/QUOTE]What if the girl is a liar, cheat, or scammer? Knowing your name is already half the battle. Being from the streets, everybody had a street name and nobody went by their government name. I guess that is where it comes from with me.

Hell, even most hookers or strippers do not use their real names. Sometimes I act like I do not believe they are the age they tell me and in their anxiousness to show me wrong they whip out their ID that has their real name on it.

I will admit that in all these years I don't think there has been an issue, but it is all just a part of covering your tracks. Just like you put your valuables in the safe and hide the minibar stuff, you also give them a fake name.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2432437]I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world![/QUOTE]Some guys take the whole second persona to a whole other level. They are welcome to do this but, in all honesty, I think the only person that they are kidding is themself. You've mentioned several ways that a girl can get a John"s true name etc. I'd also suggest that asians generally have a far broader circle of friends and family than we do in the west. Add in endemic corruption and it would be extremely easy for any girl to get accurate contact details from hotel, transport etc personnel if she wanted.

I keep a second travel phone with it's own contact apps etc and I'm careful that it doesn't cross pollinate my regular home phone and accounts. I certainly don't want difficult to explain messages or friend requests appearing on my civilian FB account for example. This is more for my civilian life's benefit than the girls'.

I tend to treat girls half decently and make it clear that I never send cash while we are not face to face. For these reasons they have an incentive to keep me on side rather than try for extorsion etc.

The very few times that girls have tried to get extra cash from me, I've found that it's very quickly over when they find it won't be forthcoming. I've never had them put any effort into vengeance for it's own sake.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2432495]If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.[/QUOTE]I've visited Manila 3 x to 4 x a year for the past 10 or 12 years. I've had a few problems. Maybe 1% of my "dates".

I'm pretty sure I treat the girl very well, but let's be realistic not every girl that we meet are mentally balanced, and that's a potential issue if a nutjob passes your screening process.

In no particular order I can remember a ladyboy from Tinder that omitted to mention being a LB and not handling rejection too well. He / she threatened that her uncle or whatever worked in the Police or border police and would make my life miserable. Despite my solid experience the level of hysteria made the situation a bit hard to handled. I've had one girl that the pregnancy blackmail 7 or 8 years ago, and another one that demanded money with insistence claiming I gave her herpes or some minor STD like that (she wanted 5 K to pass some dermatological tests at Makati Med), but as I do full STD screen test every 3 months I am more than certain that I have never transmitted any disease to a girl.

I don't mind that all my regular girls have my full details, but I'm not particularly pleased if a bar girl knows my details, potentially share it with her mamasan and coworkers. Then they can google you, find your address, your linkedin profile etc. Being single I'm not too worried but not really pleased either.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2432494]I hope you are speaking for yourself mate. In over 20 years in this hobby, no once have I dropped the ball on my privacy. The girls know me by the name I wish to be known. Sure, your boarding pass, baggage tags, hotel TV display could all give things away, but that is down to how careful you are. Please avoid generalizing this.

As for sending money online, even to girls you know and want to see again, that is a slippery slope. But you know that already.[/QUOTE]I'm sure It's possible. But it's not effortless to have a fully efficient spy routine to hide your identity.

In Angeles it's probably easier than elsewhere because in AC you can be whoever you want pay the hotel in cash. But in Manila and many countries hiding from your digital trail is hard. Most hotels requires Credit card and ID, using taxi vs grab is really annoying, using a shitty Nokia burner with a prepaid SIM is not as pleasant as using an iphone etc.

It's not exactly easy to go to the lobby of the hotel and tell them please change my name from Gunter Schmit to John Doe on the TV screen and make sure the personnel always refers to me as John Doe.

Most (if not all) escorts services requires you to leave a lot of information about yourself. Dating girls online leave a digital trail with your IP, metadatas on your Pc or Phone so that leaves bar girls. Oh wait all bars have CC TV's. So that leaves crack heads in dark alleys.

These days Girls always ask for you FB / whatsapp / viber etc.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2432437]I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).![/QUOTE]If you want to know the girls real name just offer to wire her some money. She has to give you her real full name from her ID to pick up the wired cash.

My concern for my privacy is only for Identity theft in a 3rd world country where I don't know anybody important enough to help me out if all my credit cards, bank passwords, and ATM card are frozen. That would be hell in shitsville. I'd be calling a regular and asking if she has space for me to sleep on the floor of her hut.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2432566]What if the girl is a liar, cheat, or scammer? Knowing your name is already half the battle. Being from the streets, everybody had a street name and nobody went by their government name. I guess that is where it comes from with me.

Hell, even most hookers or strippers do not use their real names. Sometimes I act like I do not believe they are the age they tell me and in their anxiousness to show me wrong they whip out their ID that has their real name on it.

I will admit that in all these years I don't think there has been an issue, but it is all just a part of covering your tracks. Just like you put your valuables in the safe and hide the minibar stuff, you also give them a fake name.[/QUOTE]If the girl is a liar, cheat or scammer? Deal with it boys.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2432555]What if he has an SO? I know a case where my buddy was screwed by a Filipino free lancer. He helped her get a visa to the US, and she spent a month with him. He got her a hotel room and even took her to Vegas. But she was expecting to stay in the US and marry him. When it did not happen, she wreaked havoc with his life. She managed to get most of his email addresses and passwords.[/QUOTE]So he was a liar and cheat to begin with. Karma came around and bit him. I am sure there is much more to his story than told to you. He is no victim.

How did She get his email addresses and passwords? He let her get it.

How did she get expectations of marrying him?

My brother introduced me to this hobby close to fifty years ago. The first thing he told me was to never give these girls your real name. I have done that ever since and it has worked well for me. I have no intention of changing that.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2433038]My brother introduced me to this hobby close to fifty years ago. The first thing he told me was to never give these girls your real name. I have done that ever since and it has worked well for me. I have no intention of changing that.[/QUOTE]Most of us agree on that. But don't you find it increasingly difficult to achieve in this digital world?

With the world going cashless in the next 10/15 years it will be even more difficult.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2433111]Most of us agree on that. But don't you find it increasingly difficult to achieve in this digital world?.[/QUOTE]In the digital world have 2 phones (just buy a 100 euro 2nd phone) download WhatsApp and set up for using a foreign sim card when you get to your location.

Create a fb account and only access that account on your mongering phone.

Download Wechat, tinder and the other apps you need.

Once you set things up you can change your sim card from different countries without changing your apps, including WhatsApp.

You will need a new Google email for download.

Never put your real SIM in this phone or login to your real fb account.