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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1804177]I have asked this question to many girls over a period of time but never got a convincing answer. My best estimates put it around 30 - 50% of the lady drink cost. I have tried this approach too, not at Soi 6 but at some of the open bars at WS, 2nd Road & Soi 7. I ask for my drink, find a real pretty face and "I barfine you" in less than 10 minutes at the bar. Its not a big deal IMHO.[/QUOTE]They get 50 baht from a 150 baht lady drink. Have been told this many times. Also some bars and gogos have a monthly quota system for ladydrink sales. If the individual girl falls short she is fined 50 baht per drink.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1804155] Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?[/QUOTE]I always skip drink and ladydrink in soi6, just stop outside the bar when I see a girl I like, ask some question and if her answer are right I take her upstair for ST.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1803959]Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl [B]and[/B] the room.
No doubt the mamasan, having seen you accepted the 500 baht prime for the room, told the girl to increase her price as well.
You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,
I don't think I gave any signs of being a newbie neither I am. I liked the girl, talked to her outside and then took her in for a drink. I would have given 200 baht extra for room. I generally don't negotiate on room or barfine costs and take them to be sacrosanct. This was an aberration. I knew that 1000 + 350 was pretty much the price range since last year hence aware that they were asking 200 extra and I was ok.
Issue was that the girl was asking for 50% extra. The room cost was immaterial at that point of time in my decision making process.
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[QUOTE=AskeAske;1804110]Many thanks for a detailed and well-written report.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. Always post with the hope that someone will benefit or avoid the mistakes I would have done on my visit. A clear one was not taking Mons no or going to her bar on the last night as well. No regrets now, plenty of fish awaiting for me in Indonesia and Philippines next month.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1804155] Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? [/QUOTE]Yes, I've done this many times.
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[QUOTE=Llttf;1804223]They get 50 baht from a 150 baht lady drink. Have been told this many times. Also some bars and gogos have a monthly quota system for ladydrink sales. If the individual girl falls short she is fined 50 baht per drink.[/QUOTE]I was told the same thing by many girls over the years. There were times when the frikkin mamasan would not let me take my girl too early, and the answer was always the drink quota. Some girls come to work even when they have their period, just to fulfil their drink quota. When I asked a girl what would happen if a customer wants to barfine you, she said she would dance around the question.
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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1781313]My limited knowledge on the subject tells me that Sagami 001 is available only in one size, while the 002 comes in mutiple sizes, shapes and colors. I order my stock online from a Japanese website and they take 1 week to deliver (in Singapore). I have not seen them on shelves of pharmacies or even inside sex shops. Apparently the economics of price, demand, supply does not work out for the vendor.[/QUOTE]FWIW I was told the 001 were not approved for sale in Singapore, when I explicitly asked for them there. I have found them available OTC elsewhere in Asia, though.
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Soi 6
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1789753]But what you don't realize is that when most girls come to Pattaya they start out on Soi 6. So chances are that if you meet a chick elsewhere, such as a gogo then she has already done her time in Soi 6 and learned the lay of the land enough to graduate and venture out to work other places. So actually a Soi 6 girl would more than likely have less mileage on them![/QUOTE]I have some friends who visit Pattaya a lot. They said it's the opposite, that the girls finish at Soi 6.
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Kinnaree Club
[QUOTE=HenryR;1789700]Someone on this forum mentioned the Kinnaree Club in Pattaya as a good place. Can someone give details about it, such as location etc? I looked through a bunch of posts here, plus did a search on this forum, but couldn't find it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.
Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.
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[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1804432]Wolvenvacht,
I don't think I gave any signs of being a newbie neither I am. I liked the girl, talked to her outside and then took her in for a drink. I would have given 200 baht extra for room. I generally don't negotiate on room or barfine costs and take them to be sacrosanct. This was an aberration. I knew that 1000 + 350 was pretty much the price range since last year hence aware that they were asking 200 extra and I was ok.
Issue was that the girl was asking for 50% extra. The room cost was immaterial at that point of time in my decision making process.[/QUOTE]IllusionHeart,
I know. I was just making fun. And the fact that you did not accept her offer shows you know "the market" quite well.
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[QUOTE=HenryR;1804687]I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.
Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.[/QUOTE]I visit that place every time I am in Pattaya. When you say 350 bahts barfine, you mean for the room on premise. I've never taken a girl to my hotel room. I assume one can do that, but I just wanted to clarify that they have rooms on the premises. I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.
Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.
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[QUOTE=HenryR;1804685]I have some friends who visit Pattaya a lot. They said it's the opposite, that the girls finish at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]What the what! They must not visit too often. One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old. What I call the hidden away bars around Pattaya is where they finish. For instance, recently I fucked a 40 year old from a bar on Klang 16. She showed me this picture from when she was 28 years old new to Pattaya, and working on Soi 6.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;1804736]I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.
Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.[/QUOTE]Kinnaree is in Pratumnak (Little Russia), which is between South Pattaya and Jomtien. The last time I was there I ate a barbecue pork sandwich that was so damn good. It filled me up. There was no way that I could take a girl after that. Next time I know to fuck first and eat later.
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[QUOTE=PuteNut;1804618]FWIW I was told the 001 were not approved for sale in Singapore, when I explicitly asked for them there. I have found them available OTC elsewhere in Asia, though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, I will check next time I travel, which should be very soon.
I have asked explicitly for the 001 too across a range of pharmacies and even sex shops. No one ever told me about the "not approved for sale" bit. I really don't care much, as my supplies from the Japanese online retailer are fairly steady.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1804102]Every time I've gone with a girl on soi 6 it was 300 for the room and 1000 towards the girl. Don't think I've ever read someone only posting they paid 1000 baht for both the room and the girl.[/QUOTE]Only took a girl on soi 6 twice. First time was about 3 years ago and it was 1000 all in (300 room cost, 700 for the girl). The second time was early this year and it was 300 plus 1000. I also confirmed this with a guy I know who owns a bar on soi 6. So 1300 is the going rate as of late last year to early this year.
Having mentioned all of that it is also important to note that the girls part can always be negotiated. Especially if she knows you or if she likes you or if her rent is due (LOL). But most guys don't have enough time for all of that when they are visiting. Might as well just pay the increased rate and enjoy yourself.