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No problem bowerboy, but I'm not sure you'll believe it. Hand on heart:
Not only do I not help her financially, and never have, but we share costs. Supermarket shopping, cinema tickets, restaurants. She pays half. Or I pay once, she pays next time, and so on. All in all, she pays half.
When we travel: she pays half of everything, including hotels costs (if we were going to an expensive place, like 6000 a night, I would offer to pay, but like many thai girls, she doesn't like fancy places and sees them as a waste of money, so we do mid-level hotels together. 1000-1500 a night).
Keep in mind this is a girl who makes great money, she isn't struggling financially.
Does she bring other guys to her condo? Not as part of her job, that's for sure. She likes to have the two separate. She might bring other guys she likes when I'm not in BKK, but I really don't think it's frequent. I don't really care. She is free to do as she wants.
More perspective:
This is my first relationship ever with a professional girl. But I've been in Asia for a long time and obviously haven't been celibate. I've always had the same arrangements as above, with many, many girls. I absolutely agree with NicFrenchy that the vast majority (90%+) of normal girls will just like you because they like you, without expecting money. That is, of course, if you are nice, presentable and fun. It helps to be young (mid thirties for me) but it's very possible to do even when much older (friends of mine do it). But again you need to be nice. The girl needs to enjoy your company and have a good time.
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[QUOTE=Chill Out;1278437]I absolutely agree with NicFrenchy that the vast majority (90%+) of normal girls will just like you because they like you, without expecting money. That is, of course, if you are nice, presentable and fun. It helps to be young (mid thirties for me) but it's very possible to do even when much older (friends of mine do it). But again you need to be nice. The girl needs to enjoy your company and have a good time.[/QUOTE]I second this. If you are nice and make the girl comfortable at all levels then you are at different level altogether. Yes money is important but it doesn't harm if you try to build up a friendship atleast if not a long term relationship!
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[QUOTE=Chill Out;1278437]The girl needs to enjoy your company and have a good time.[/QUOTE]And that is EXACTLY what it is about for them. Whether you're 25 or 65, most could not care less as long as when you are together, it is SANOOK.
I dated a girl whose income was 14, 000 / month and she was paying for her place 6, 500 (she had a Roommate). She decided to upgrade to an 8k place with a King bed and be by herself just so that I could come as many time as I wanted without the Roommate being there.
Did I give her Money? NO. Did she ask me to Pay a bit of the Room? NO.
I booked her a hotel downtown Sukh for 2 months (I PAid) during the Floods as her place was under water. Cost me about 50k Total.
She was so grateful.
The month after she moved in, she handed me 5k cash as part of a 10 month refund. She wanted to pay me back the money. I refused.
She said she was very lucky to have me during the rough time as she has no family to help her. She never ever asked for a dime and when I go to her place, she always has the soda and junk food that I like (she pays).
She has FUN with me all the time we are together and that is enough for her to want to see me more. SANOOK, that's all there is to it really.
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I visited Nana Plaza on Friday night. First time I'd been to a gogo in a few months. Was surprised to find it very packed in early May.
Billboard, Angel Witch & Rainbow 2 were all full and I took one of the last seats. Pretty decent lineups in all 3, including several girls I'd really enjoy humping.
The girl I ended up barfining turned out to be one of the most attractive girls I've ever been with. Enormous natural D-cup tits on a skinny body with a young pretty face. Not something you see too often in Thailand. I admit that I caved and paid 2000 ST, which I've only done once before. She wouldn't take 1500, and it was understandable to me, as she was too attractive for a gogo bar.
I made her earn it for about an hour straight. She wasn't complaining and turned out to be quite a nice girl without a superstar attitude.
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[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1278449]she was too attractive for a gogo bar.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting point of view.
I am now interested to see this girl (if you are willing to share her details). I thought GoGo bars was about banging girls that you would not be able to bang in the first place? So the more attractive the better, right?
I mean, why go to a bar and pay for a run-of-the-mill girl that you could find easily in Thailand? (I'm thinking non-P4P Freebies).
From where I stand, I would Barfine girls from GoGo bars (same as you did) if they were really pretty and I knew I could not screw a girl like this without paying.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1278493]That's an interesting point of view.
I am now interested to see this girl (if you are willing to share her details). I thought GoGo bars was about banging girls that you would not be able to bang in the first place? So the more attractive the better, right?
I mean, why go to a bar and pay for a run-of-the-mill girl that you could find easily in Thailand? (I'm thinking non-P4P Freebies).
From where I stand, I would Barfine girls from GoGo bars (same as you did) if they were really pretty and I knew I could not screw a girl like this without paying.[/QUOTE]
There are the standard hot girls in the gogo bar, but then occasionally you happen upon the girl who is too hot. Meaning that within a month she'll have 10 sponsors and you'll never see her again. I suspect that's what will happen with this girl. She was too much of an outlier to last long on the market.
The freebie thing sometimes works well and is enjoyable, but other times it doesn't seem worth the time and effort when you could go down the street and be happily satisfied within an hour and don't have some annoying chick hanging around your place the next day or angry at you because you don't want a relationship.
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[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1278449]I visited Nana Plaza on Friday night. First time I'd been to a gogo in a few months. Was surprised to find it very packed in early May.
Billboard, Angel Witch & Rainbow 2 were all full and I took one of the last seats. Pretty decent lineups in all 3, including several girls I'd really enjoy humping.
The girl I ended up barfining turned out to be one of the most attractive girls I've ever been with. Enormous natural D-cup tits on a skinny body with a young pretty face. Not something you see too often in Thailand. I admit that I caved and paid 2000 ST, which I've only done once before. She wouldn't take 1500, and it was understandable to me, as she was too attractive for a gogo bar.
I made her earn it for about an hour straight. She wasn't complaining and turned out to be quite a nice girl without a superstar attitude.[/QUOTE]Hi GB. Which bar was this girl in? Sounds nice. I agree that some girls are all about looks and some about performance. Happy to pay for looks even if performance bad.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1278385]H444, oh you are so wrong. On so many levels. I will just say that for the people who live in Bangkok and actually know a thing or two about Thai ladies (not the P4P Type or the Wannabe Gold Diggers) there is a lot of opportunities. Many Thai Ladies are BORED and LONELY.
Especially with half the Male Population being Gay.
Treat them with respect, nicely and they will respond as such. I have done the non P4P heavily for 2 years now and only 10% of the girls were interested about Money. That my Friend, is a FACT.[/QUOTE]Somehow I think that Hardon444 either has never had sex with anything but his hand, or has never had sex with a non-hooker, neither in Thailand nor anywhere else in the world.
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[QUOTE=Werqweq;1278520]Somehow I think that Hardon444 either has never had sex with anything but his hand, or has never had sex with a non-hooker, neither in Thailand nor anywhere else in the world.[/QUOTE]And he has 1 Ball.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
From where I stand, I would Barfine girls from GoGo bars (same as you did) if they were really pretty and I knew I could not screw a girl like this without paying.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you could get a really pretty girl, but it would take longer than saying "barfine". ;)
Those hot girls can be found in the gogos, but it takes some hunting, and like Gentle said, they often don't last long. One of the hottest girl I've ever been with (P4P or not) was in Nana too, she lasted 2 months and found herself a big time sponsor.
This is a girl who was so hot, I saw her as I was coming down from the short time hotel (having come 5 minutes earlier) and I had to go for her anyway. I never did that before or since.
When she left, she wanted to remain friends but I guess her sponsor didn't like that too much, her phone number stopped working after a while.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1278532]And he has 1 Ball.[/QUOTE]The problem is "where" does he have it?
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1278606]Gogo girls on average not that good looking. Even at baccara or rainbow 4 there are very few stunners.
Come on nic frenchy. You didn't know that!
[/quote]Frankly speaking? The Bars and GoGos are not my scene so I know Very little about them.
[quote]I still not understand, you get so mut free sex why are you even interested in paying?[/QUOTE]Wait, I thought you said it was never free?
One gets tired of regular girls after a while. Been there, done that (from the stunners to the Fuglies). I need a Change. Something that's Hassle-Free.
Come in, bang, come out.
There is no doubt I will go back to non-P4P but now I mix it up more.
And it's not about the money, I have plenty of that already.