Every word out of your mouth is a bold faced lie lololol
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003176]But but but Donnie Two Dolls is stealing all those Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars China was going to give us to pay for everything we want and need like Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, god I'm glad Trump invented that word, and make all Americans rich from those Trump Tariffs!
He denies America those Billions and Billions and Billions of free money from other countries every time he buckles and caves on 1 Tariff percentage point!
[B]USA And China agree to slash tariffs for 90 days in major trade breakthrough.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/us-and-china-agree-to-slash-tariffs-for-90-days.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
Oh, BTW, has somebody finally explained to Donnie Two Dolls than an illegally-enacted presidential Executive Order to raise, lower, raise, lower, buckle and cave, raise, lower, raise, buckle and cave, etc etc tariffs is not a "Trade Deal", whether it is enacted on goods from the United Kingdom, China, Mars, The Moon or anywhere else?[/QUOTE]Your lame attempts to gaslight ISG are absurdly weak, give it up you're just wasting your electricity.
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/05/12/peacemaker-in-chief-british-peer-calls-for-trump-to-be-awarded-nobel-peace-prize-for-preventing-india-pakistan-war/[/URL]
Your bitterness over America improving warms my fucking heart, you traitor LMFAO
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003490]Even Murdoch's Wall Street Journal had to admit Trump essentially bent over, grabbed his knees, unable to touch his calves much less his ankles, and took it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] from Xi and All Of China:
[B]The Great Trump Tariff Rollback.
The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.[/B]
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/opinion/u-s-china-trade-deal-tariffs-donald-trump-xi-jinping-a561d16b[/URL]
You know, it might be marginally ok for him to jerk himself and everyone else off when he is buying or selling one of his failed golf resorts from or to a gaggle of drunks.
But all of this in, out, confusion, incoherence, blithering blather, feigned or genuine incompetence doesn't work when he's dealing with real world businesses, the national and global economy.[/QUOTE]There Are Two Chinas, and America Must Understand Both.
The technological success that has captured the attention of many in the United States is one aspect of the Chinese economy. There's another, gloomy one.
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By Li Yuan.
May 13,2025.
Updated 1:16 am ET.
Two Chinas inhabit the American imagination: One is a technology and manufacturing superpower poised to lead the world. The other is an economy that's on the verge of collapse.
Each reflects a real aspect of China.
One China — let's call it hopeful China — is defined by companies like the A. I. Start-up DeepSeek, the electric vehicle giant BYD and the tech powerhouse Huawei. All are innovation leaders.
Jensen Huang, the chief executive of the Silicon Valley chip giant Nvidia, said China was "not behind" the United States in artificial intelligence development. Quite a few pundits have declared that China would dominate the 21st century.
The other China — gloomy China — tells a different story: sluggish consumer spending, rising unemployment, a chronic housing crisis and a business community bracing for the impact of the trade war.
President Trump, as he tries to negotiate a resolution of a trade war, must reckon with both versions of America's arch geopolitical rival.
The stakes have never been higher to understand China. It's not enough to fear its successes, or take solace in its economic hardships. To know America's biggest rival requires seeing how the two Chinas are able to coexist.
"Americans have too many imagined notions about China," said Dong Jielin, a former Silicon Valley executive who recently moved back to San Francisco after spending 14 years in China teaching and researching the country's science and technology policies. "Some of them hope to solve American problems using Chinese methods, but that clearly won't work. They don't realize that China's solutions come with a lot of pain. ".
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The vehicle assembly lines of Geely Automobile's Zeekr Factory in Ningbo, China. Credit. Qilai Shen for The New York Times.
Just like the United States, China is a giant country full of disparities: coastal vs. Inland, north vs. South, urban vs. Rural, rich vs. Poor, state-owned vs. Private sector, Gen X vs. Gen Z. The ruling Communist Party itself is full of contradictions. It avows socialism, but recoils from giving its citizens a strong social safety net.
Chinese people, too, grapple with these contradictions.
Despite the trade war, the Chinese tech entrepreneurs and investors I talked to over the past few weeks were more upbeat than any time in the past three years. Their hope started with DeepSeek's breakthrough in January. Two venture capitalists told me that they planned to come out of a period of hibernation they started after Beijing's crackdown on the tech sector in 2021. Both said they were looking to invest in Chinese A. I. Applications and robotics.
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But they are much less optimistic about the economy — the gloomy China.
The 10 executives, investors and economists I interviewed said they believed that China's advances in tech would not be enough to pull the country out of its economic slump. Advanced manufacturing makes up about only 6 percent of China's output, much smaller than real estate, which contributes about 17 percent of gross domestic product even after a sharp slowdown.
When I asked them whether China could beat the United States in the trade war, nobody said yes. But they all agreed that China's pain threshold was much higher.
It's not hard to understand the anxiety felt by Americans frustrated with their country's struggles to build and manufacture. China has constructed more high-speed rail lines than the rest of the world, deployed more industrial robots per 10,000 manufacturing workers than any country except South Korea and Singapore and now leads globally in electric vehicles, solar panels, drones and several other advanced industries.
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Many of China's most successful companies have gained resilience from the economic downturn and are better prepared for the bad days ahead. "They've been DOGE-ing for a long time," said Eric Wong, the founder of the New York hedge fund Stillpoint who visits China every quarter, referring to the Trump administration's cost-cutting effort known as the Department of Government Efficiency. "By comparison, the USA Has been living in excess for a long time. ".
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But as we marvel at China's so-called miracles, it is necessary to ask: At what cost? Not just financial, but human.
China's top-down innovation model, heavily reliant on government subsidies and investment, has proved to be both inefficient and wasteful. Much like the overbuilding in the real estate sector that triggered a crisis and erased much of Chinese household wealth, excessive industrial capacity has deepened imbalances in the economy and raised questions about the model's sustainability, particularly if broader conditions worsen.
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The electric vehicle industry shows the force of the two Chinas. In 2018, the country had nearly 500 E. V. Makers. By 2024, about 70 remained. Among the casualties was Singulato Motors, a start-up that raised $2. 3 billion from investors, including local governments in three provinces. Over eight years, the company failed to deliver a single car and filed for bankruptcy in 2023.
The Chinese government tolerates wasteful investment in its chosen initiatives, helping fuel overcapacity. But it is reluctant to make the kind of substantial investments in rural pensions and health insurance that would help lift consumption.
"Technological innovation alone cannot resolve China's structural economic imbalances or cyclical deflationary pressures," Robin Xing, the chief China economist at Morgan Stanley, said in a research note. "In fact," he wrote, "recent advances in technology may reinforce policymakers' confidence in the current path, increasing the risk of resource and capital misallocation. ".
The Chinese leadership's obsession with technological self-reliance and industrial capacity is not helping its biggest challenges: unemployment, weak consumption and a reliance on exports, not to mention the housing crisis.
Officially, China's urban unemployment rate stands at 5 percent, excluding jobless migrant workers. Youth unemployment is 17 percent. The real numbers are believed to be much higher. This summer alone, China's colleges will graduate more than 12 million new job seekers.
Mr. Trump was not wrong in saying factories are closing and people are losing their jobs in China.
In 2020 Li Keqiang, then the premier, said the foreign trade sector, directly or indirectly, accounted for the employment of 180 million Chinese. "A downturn in foreign trade will almost certainly hit the job market hard," he said at the onset of the pandemic. Tariffs could be much more devastating.
Beijing is playing down the effect of the trade war, but as negotiators held talks last weekend with their USA Counterparts, its impact was obvious. In April, Chinese factories experienced the sharpest monthly slowdown in more than a year while shipments to the United States plunged 21 percent from a year earlier.
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All of the economic fallout will be shouldered by people like a man I spoke to, with the surname Chen, a former university librarian in a megacity in southern China. He asked that I not use his full name and where he lived to shield his identity from the authorities.
Mr. Chen lives in the gloomy China. He stopped taking the vaunted high-speed trains because they cost five times as much as a bus. Flying is often cheaper, too.
He lost his job last year because the university, one of the top ones in the country, was facing a budget shortfall. Many state-run institutions have had to let people go because many local governments, even in the wealthiest cities, are deeply in debt.
Because he's in his late 30's, Mr. Chen is considered too old for most jobs. He and his wife had given up on buying a home. Now with the trade war, he expects that the economy will weaken further and that his job prospects will be dimmer.
"I've become even more cautious with spending," he said. "I weigh every penny. ".
GOD (AKA Donald J Trump) is FUCKING GREAT.
How you spend your money is a more powerful vote than at the ballot box!
I've said from the start that I am a beginner rider looking for the best starter bike for the money.
Google is weird here (Thailand). Six dealerships have is listed they sell [B]CFMoto[/B]. None of them did. So, after learning I not going to actually buy the moto of my choice I have come back to: [B]Royal Enfield[/B] - [U]Guerrilla 450[/U].
But it was hard for me to make a final decision. So I am also going to get a sport bike for the track and either a tourer or a scrambler and set them up with luggage for my long trips. I have zero interest in going off road here in Thailand (at least until I take my off-road riding course).
[U]How does this relate to politics?[/U]
I find it interesting that the China Man is in the Dis-United States of America but is not here in Thailand. At least you can get good bourbon here. Individuals in the Dis-United States of America think they are the center of the world. They have the biggest market but there is an entire world out there. Everyday they are busting their asses to build lives like the once citizens of the Dis-United States of America take for granted. The underdog is counting on not being paid attention to until they start kicking ass and taking names. I read where someone says industries decline is part of the economic cycle. [B]Maybe it is time that the Dis-United States of America recognizes it is on the decline[/B]. The Republican Morons are the cause. Time to either do something about it or goes softly in to the night.
Until [B]Harley-Davidson[/B] designs and builds a reliable motorcycle for a beginner under 10 K USD, I will not be representing the Dis-United States of America nor voting for their products.
Republican are interested in everything but the facts!
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, you [b]Democratic douches[/b] are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.[/QUOTE]How are you paying your hookers?
Name the last president to balance the budget!
You cannot. Because if you look at how budget deficits work it is really the entire process handled by both the Article 1 and Article 2 branches that make it happen. It does not happen in one year or one term.
They do that to obscure the facts and history.
Must be related to ISGs SC lololol itsy bitsy Tootsie roll shall be her new name
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3003772]Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.
And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/05/15/diddy-accused-of-raping-woman-who-compared-his-penis-to-a-tootsie-roll/[/URL]
