Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2370608]That was totally uncool. You could have just said the girls are not really to my taste. I like a candid mamasan. You're in a brothel for heavens sakes.[/QUOTE]I disagree. What he did was what we should all be doing. It's not going to stand the slightest chance of getting better if we don't let the mamasans and owners know the lineup is unacceptable.

Friend was in Addict. Hadn't chosen a gal in several visits. Mamasan asked him why he hadn't been booking. He replied, "they are all too big. " And the mamasan looked at the gals and said, "See, I told you. You're all too fat,. ".

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2371156]Good review, I have to second the recommendation for Nam at Snow White.[/QUOTE]Thanks Crocodilexp. I appreciate the positive feedback. There are a number of seemingly unremarkable girls at Snow White who have revealed their hidden charms to me recently. Sometimes, you just get a good vibe from a plain girl in the lineup and are rewarded with a fine ride. I will post my reviews this week at a pace designed to allow time for the proper discussion of each one.

While my experience was just fine and Noy was an eager partner it does seem from other reports Daisy Dream may have a problem on their hands.

Almost all posts have commented on the too dim lighting in the lounge / reception making getting one's bearings not easy and choosing from the line up difficult.

I also feel rightly or wrongly that the receptionist should be female. Ideally she is customer focused, putting the client at his ease, asking if he had any particular requirements and whether there are girls willing to accommodate. For example I like shaved. A welcoming drink and a cold cloth are nice touches.

Next, the attractiveness of the girls is honestly not great but would be acceptable if service was above average which while again I was personally happy does not seem to be what others experienced.

My sense is while the owners went to some lengths and expense to create a particular Chinese pleasure house vibe they lost it on recruitment and more importantly on training.

I have always maintained training is paramount to the success of any P4P venue. Training programs where the girls are shown maybe by an experienced provider how to treat customers, understand that basic services such as BBBJ, DATY, rimming, multiple pops and multiple positions are standard and not at their discretion.

Videos should be used to show some of the more inexperienced newcomers how to professionally perform these services.

Most important of all is to create an atmosphere in the shop of welcoming happy hookers who are eager to meet you and enjoy what they do for a living.

The hook to sell all of this on is letting the girls know this is the job they have chosen to make money and that they can do this, a 100 k a month or more. They should understand this is only going to happen if the shop is successful and that all of them not just some have to work hard making sure every customer is happy and wants to come back again.

To round off my formula for success, to attract the best talent give the girls a fair share of the fee which I would peg at a minimum 70% and use creative online marketing to promote the business.

OK I can imagine some of you are wondering which planet this guy is living on but I believe it is eminently doable if the will is there.

P.S. I am available as a consultant trainer.

I know I can easily find no condom at the PSE massage places. I'm curious if anyone has had any luck at the soapy massage. I like the girls at these places much better but these places always seem stricter about rubber use.

Anyone have any BBFS luck at addict?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Canyon;2370902]After all the hype, I decided to visit Daisy Dream. The thecor is definitely impressive, with a nice Chinese-themed door at the entry. Once inside, it was hard to see because it was so dark. The thecor seemed nice, but it was so dim, I couldn't tell. The line-up was not impressive, ranging from ordinary to not very nice. I picked one who's face was acceptable. We climbed up two flights of stairs, and the atmosphere got hotter and hotter, as we climbed higher and higher. Once in the room, the heat was almost unbearable. She turned on the A / see, but it took a while to cool down.

Once she disrobed, I was very disappointed. The breasts were flat and were wrinkled like prunes. In the line-up, the breasts looked full, hidden inside a padded bra. Her name was Indy, so caveat emptor. There was no truth-in-packaging here. Her massage was fairly good, but the sex was terrible. BJ was covered and sex was so bad that I could not come. I had to pay 2. 500 upon entry for one hour, so there was no way to get a refund or withhold payment.

Despite the nice thecor, I would never go back. Charge of 2,500 for an hour, is too much. Should be for 90 minutes. Girls were not very attractive. Service, at least from Indy, was terrible.

This is an interim trip report. I wanted to post it now, so you could avoid the place. In a week, I'll post another report. I will have a good recommendation in that report, but I'm waiting until the end of my trip.[/QUOTE]Canyon,

I did not get to daisy Dream for a look yet. Sounds like you saved me the trouble. I certainly would not go up if I could not see a girl that sexually excited me at all. I PMed you my phone number.

I hate dim lighting. Today I looked in some MPs but forgot the correct range glasses (long sighted) so dim lighting would have stuffed it up no end. Addict was very brightly lit but I did not choose anyone. Club 102 was a little dimly lit but a reasonable looking bunch today. Maybe you can try it.

I ended up paying just 2100 for 90 minutes at SW. Session was quite okay For a newbie (as yet not very skilled just 5 days on the job). I posted my report accidentally in Bangkok thread.

I would happily pay 2500 for 1 hour if girl was really hot. I still like looking at nudie dancers as can see if figure is truly good but Bar prices are getting out of hand these days. Even the crappy girls start to expect 3 K for ST and some places have a 1 K barfine.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2370977]Very informative post Canyon. Too bad you had to take one for the team in order to post it however. LOL. I hate shriveled tits. And the darkness inside the joint is an immediate tell that no good can come from it.

But I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. I know you will. For upscale - check out soapy Maria Hotel & Spa. They have a lot of attractive girls (60 or 70). Good lighting too! Ha Ha.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Although I made a report mentioning Maria in the past, I did not actually yet get to go there and have a look.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2370608]That was totally uncool. You could have just said the girls are not really to my taste. I like a candid mamasan. You're in a brothel for heavens sakes.[/QUOTE]I don't really get you. We are not trying to be very cool and popular with the line up in general. Candid mamasan calling a spade a spade, somewhat rudely perhaps. Why should he not say he likes slim girls (ignoring the anal part)? If the implication is none of them were really slim, so be it. What's the big deal. Possibly some were slim but he still did not like them.

Many guys are far less "cool" and state very plainly they cannot take any girls with a baby, only white skin, only those doing anal, etc.

If asked anything about my taste, I usually state I like skinny girls. Some shops hardly have any. However at least if any skinny girls have not come out yet, they might get called. Still won't work if the skinny girl happens to be ugly or have some other problems like very straight body, or no ass at all.

I was in Addict today very well lit. Mamasan asks me if any of the 10 girls approx. Appeals. I was candid too. I said that nose jobs don't really appeal to me (without commenting about how obvious they might be), and I thought at first they all had nose jobs. Most noses were not cute at all (for me). One girl pipes up and says she has no nose job, only a tit job. I had to be honest and say, sorry I don't really like tit jobs much either, however more simply in reality her look was not interesting me. Some of the tits jobs looked awful even though covered. Not every girl had a tit job, quite possibly.

These plain girls are supposed to be hot and gorgeous once they have had a nose job and a tit job. Sorry that is just not doing it for me. They usually look worse in my eyes.

Would be good for me if shops realised they ought to try to stoke some all natural slim girls with a reasonable face. Not all of us are into heavy surgeries girls. I will occasionally forgive surgeries if is a good subtle job. Tits that are still soft on the top. Straight slightly long noses are O.K. I had a regular at Crazy for years with a good nose job, but small tits.

[QUOTE=MrBenn;2370779]
Nam performs well and has the right attitude but there is no getting away from her weight. If she were to slim down a bit, I would certainly repeat.[/QUOTE]I tried newbie Biwtee (Beauty) and she could lose a few kilos too (maybe 5 off would be good). Hope she does and I might even repeat, despite only a learner. Her pussy felt really nice once she had stretched just a little. Was not so easy to get one finger in at first. Some guys demand super tight I think.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2371389]I tried newbie Biwtee (Beauty) and she could lose a few kilos too (maybe 5 off would be good). Hope she does and I might even repeat, despite only a learner. Her pussy felt really nice once she had stretched just a little. Was not so easy to get one finger in at first. Some guys demand super tight I think.[/QUOTE]Beauty is not a newbie.

She came back to work last week, she was absent almost 1 year while giving birth and taking care of the newborn.

She has worked at Snow White a few years before that.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2371184]I disagree. What he did was what we should all be doing. It's not going to stand the slightest chance of getting better if we don't let the mamasans and owners know the lineup is unacceptable.

Friend was in Addict. Hadn't chosen a gal in several visits. Mamasan asked him why he hadn't been booking. He replied, "they are all too big. " And the mamasan looked at the gals and said, "See, I told you. You're all too fat,. ".[/QUOTE]Mamasans are not stupid. They know exactly what mongers like. If they could get all slim good looking girls you think they would not accept them? Anyway we all have different styles. I would tell a mamasan anything but I will never tell a working girl to her face or within earshot that she is fat.

I have a few reports to share from my last few trips to Bangkok that I haven' shared as I usually stick to my country of work for intel but figure should share here and hope the info is useful as this board has helped me a fair bit.

When I was visiting in July and while my friends were nursing their hangovers in the day I sneaked out to Chrome bar to try out a nuru for my first time. I heard great things about it from a friend and boy was he right!

Felt a bit weird there as I expected the place to look a bit nicer inside and less dingy but maybe I shouldn't have expected so much from this type of place. There was a group of guys in there early 30's there drinking beers casually with a worker which was a bit unusual to me but also kind of cool how casual this city can be at any time of day with fun times.

I was there around 1 or 2 pm and there were only 2 girls available at the time, one with short hair that seemed a little intimidating for a newbie and another who I believe was #35 based on looking at the website today. She wasn't super hot or super fit, I would say a 5 or 6 on my scale but was cute, small with a decent body and a had a sexy / nasty look like she would really know what she was doing. She lead me up to the room which was a bit worse than I expected also, but since it is a shower with an air-mattress on the floor didn't feel dirty to me at least. Helped me undress washed me down super well with a ridiculous amount of soup, made sure to get every inch.

35 Had me lay down on my stomach and started with a nuru, she really did lots of great teasing a bit of massaging and got me going super quick. Really a unique experience with the body slides and gel is interesting. After about 15 minutes or so got me to flip and it was bit more of the same with lots of HJ teases, she inserted a digit for my first time I didn't love it but also surprisingly didn't hate it, after a little while went on to the BBBJ and damn she was a pro, had me finishing in a super short time!

After round 1 rinsed me off and went back to enjoying some nuru again with her teasing, mouth and hands it had me full steam and ready for round 2 quicker than ever possible, I really thought I was only going for 1 round but she is a pro. After a while she pulled out a rubber and tried her out in a few positions which was nice, with some extra added difficulty due to the slippery factor. Since she was super wet from the gel I asked if I can put a finger in her butt and she happily obliged which was so hot! She asked me to go gentle and try junior in there after awhile as well, he wasn't there for too long before I couldn't take it any longer and it was probably the fastest round 2 I have ever had.

Again she showered me super well and helped me dress to have me on my way with a big smile on my face! Overall really great experience and super unique from anything else. I really need to go back sometime and try it with 2 girls for a longer session!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2371435]Mamasans are not stupid. They know exactly what mongers like. If they could get all slim good looking girls you think they would not accept them? Anyway we all have different styles. I would tell a mamasan anything but I will never tell a working girl to her face or within earshot that she is fat.[/QUOTE]Many would certainly tell you. Thais can be very direct. Maybe if more punters told them to their face, they'd get the message and lay off the big desserts and junk food.
And if the punters don't accept and the gals don't get any business then they'll improve or close. Either is an improvement on the current state of things.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2371464]Many would certainly tell you. Thais can be very direct.[/QUOTE]For sure they are very direct. Almost every Thai working girl I talk to calls me fat. It doesn't bother me in the least. If it bothered me, I'd lose some weight. It never stops them from taking my money so it's a non issue.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2371464]Many would certainly tell you. Thais can be very direct. Maybe if more punters told them to their face, they'd get the message and lay off the big desserts and junk food.
And if the punters don't accept and the gals don't get any business then they'll improve or close. Either is an improvement on the current state of things.[/QUOTE]What good is telling a girl that she's overweight? She knows that and most likely tells herself that every day. I dated a portly girl many decades ago and understand their mindset. Are those direct Thais to whom you refer known for their couth? The Thai pros and non-pros with whom I have had relations have all been quite prudent. I prefer to discuss working out and dieting with a girl, initiated diplomatically, rather than to offend them. That would have more effective results.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2371507]For sure they are very direct. Almost every Thai working girl I talk to calls me fat. It doesn't bother me in the least. If it bothered me, I'd lose some weight. It never stops them from taking my money so it's a non issue.[/QUOTE]I am less than 2 kilos/about 4 lbs overweight for my height according to any Proper Weight-to-Height chart on the internet. Neither P4P Thai girls nor regular non pro Thai girls hesitate for a moment to comment on me being "uon" (fat) when they put their hands on my waist or stomach. Yes, many Thai girls will say they like a man with a little extra weight on his body. But the fact that they even give me a backhand compliment like that, must say anything at all about those 2 kilos, tells me a lot about how Thai girls don't give a damn about trying to be diplomatically silent regarding anybody else's weight.