Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Breadman;1811370]Like LBM said, try to blend in. [/QUOTE]Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.

Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.

The best our Indian brethren can hope for is to be identified as Indians (little chance to avoid that) of "upper class" of "Hi so" by not running around in boisterous packs, being clean and wearing nice clothes.

Don't look like a beaten dog, but look the doorman right in the eye, smile and pose as the esteemed guest of the Club you indeed are, whereas the doorman is only an employee, appointed to keep the riff-raff out and open the door for you.

Walking 5 times past the door, furtively looking out of the corner of your eyes and then hesitating to go in, will surely not be your best approach.

They may charge you a drink to allow you in, just accept it gracefully as you were going to order a drink anyhow. It even happened to me once in Baccara in Soi Cowboy when I went there with my GF. They sold us a drink before we could go in as quite right they assumed I was not visiting them to barfine another girl. Strangely enough, Suzi Wong allowed us in without any fuzz, but then again Suzi Wong is my favorite agogo club.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1811413] Thai are experts in profiling. [/QUOTE]I would agree wholeheartedly. Try doing a slow stroll down Cowboy wearing a wife beater, shorts, and flip-flops. Then, a week or so later do the same slow stroll dressed in business casual and note the difference in how well you are received.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1811413]Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.

Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.

[/QUOTE]But wouldn't going to that extreme confound the door guys just a bit? How many bald headed Indians might they have seen on the job? My guess is none. It would work much better than wearing a nike shirt. Another thing to consider is trying to enter separately, one might make it in whereas two will be denied. The other guy has to try another bar on his own.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1807163]Hello guys,

I am planning a trip to LOS in Mid Feb with one of my best friends and thought it would be a good idea to get a good 4* Hotel with a suite with 2 attached rooms and a common hall.

Do anyone have an idea about any such hotels or service apartments? I was thinking of booking somewhere close to where all the action is.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

And while we are on the subject, wrong choice to be looking for what's basically 'one room'. A girl will freak out if you bring her back and your buddy is sitting in the main area or she see's another door that's closed. You might even consider staying in hotels next to each other instead of the same hotel, if one of you manages to get a girl back to the room she might ask how many guys are with you to the receptionist.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1806696]Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".

You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly still out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.[/QUOTE]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.

You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.

I like having something set up for early afternoons if possible. Then I'll venture out around 4 pm looking for something suitable. I'll then try out a short time girl somewhere from a gogo or a beer bar early in the evening. I'll then party on, maybe run into something worth taking for another round or look for something LT. I do like the atmosphere of the clubs and like to get out, try to bring a ST girl along and turn it into LT. What worked great for me last trip was finding girls who would come over after work and stay the night, let me sample here and there while knowing I had dinner planned for later.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1811286]This is some handy advice Little Big Man, but it is absolutely not fail proof! I know because I dress in exactly the manner that you suggest when mongering, and I have been denied entry to three bars in Thailand. Two in Bangkok and one in Pattaya (wasn't Happy Go-Go where I was welcomed with open arms). Probably because they thought I was Indian. I will be writing about these experiences in detail a little later. Look for the post to come. And remember that I was dressed as you recommend.[/QUOTE]I be crazy to disagree, Clothing is only a small %, one can't change how you facially look or speak and how you rap back to the doorman. Next up is getting a greenback out and ready if the first doesn't work 100 baht,, just like home. I've never had a problem going anywhere or rejected in Thailand including the Temples with my general Nike shorts, Golf type shirts or sports shoes. Of course I do not have greasy hair, smell. Personally I do not believe in going too far just to go in? Now if you want to throw them off, up the ante, get yourself a suit and a tie, or even a tuxudo with top hat and cane, now if that doesn't do it I just settle for Hamburger the rest of my trip and get a room at Soi 6, or Soi Honey. If your timing is right you might want to hookup with some of the Expats Go Go bar and go go crawls. I been to a few and once in a while there is someone Indian and I've haven't notice them not being denied entry?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1811370]Like LBM said, try to blend in. What's the first thing people spot to identify someone as coming from India? I'd have to say the unwashed long greasy hair is the first thing that comes to mind. If its hot and humid, westerners shave off most of their hair (either a buzz cut or by going bald). I've met younger Indians at home in the states who had buzz cuts and they blended in completely. A buzz cut and a baseball cap are the way to go. All depends on what lengths you and your buddy will go to get into these clubs. Try it first your way, saying you'll buy a bottle. Try it by trying to dress like a westerner. If that fails there are tons of barber shops that will give you a buzz cut in Pattaya. I use them every trip.[/QUOTE]Breadman,

Sounds as if I am going on some clandestine mission. Most of the time I wear smart casuals (chinos and a polo t-shirt) and under no circumstances do I have oil in my hair, the modern Indian youngster has changed a lot and we have moved away from the typical Indian some people have in mind, though there are some outliers. I shall try all mentioned tactics and report back with which one worked.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1811413]Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.

Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.

The best our Indian brethren can hope for is to be identified as Indians (little chance to avoid that) of "upper class" of "Hi so" by not running around in boisterous packs, being clean and wearing nice clothes.

Don't look like a beaten dog, but look the doorman right in the eye, smile and pose as the esteemed guest of the Club you indeed are, whereas the doorman is only an employee, appointed to keep the riff-raff out and open the door for you.

Walking 5 times past the door, furtively looking out of the corner of your eyes and then hesitating to go in, will surely not be your best approach.

They may charge you a drink to allow you in, just accept it gracefully as you were going to order a drink anyhow. It even happened to me once in Baccara in Soi Cowboy when I went there with my GF. They sold us a drink before we could go in as quite right they assumed I was not visiting them to barfine another girl. Strangely enough, Suzi Wong allowed us in without any fuzz, but then again Suzi Wong is my favorite agogo club.[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,

Yes I agree, being confident is key to getting in, if we look shabby and act jumpy I am sure the doorman will think that we are up to no good and deny entry, they will also restrict entry to people who they think are not going to spend money and just take up space in the club, I intend to spend money and have a good time at the clubs, if I have to I don't mind tipping the doorman either.

And I also agree with the point that they may charge me for the drink, as it is who is going to go in a club and not have a drink?

Thank you for all the help.

TheTank

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.

You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.[/QUOTE]So when she comes to you before she goes to work the guy who took her last night enjoyed her again that same afternoon.... LOL!

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1811652]So when she comes to you before she goes to work the guy who took her last night enjoyed her again that same afternoon.... LOL![/QUOTE]Can't slip anything past you now can I. I'm a little bit more clever than that though. I ask the girl in a joking way if she was 'busy' as in if she has fucked already (if she was, I let her be). And follow that up by asking if she is horny. At least this way she is a bit fresher. ;)

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.[/QUOTE]Perfectly! We will divide the world between us two. I go early, you go late.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds.[/QUOTE]Someone much wiser than me once said "One shower and she is as good as new, almost a virgin again".

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1812017]
Someone much wiser than me once said "One shower and she is as good as new, almost a virgin again".[/QUOTE]Hose her down and hand her the mouthwash.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1812017]Perfectly! We will divide the world between us two. I go early, you go late.[/QUOTE]Not exactly. For the gogo girls that I know (and have met both at a gogo or out and about), I have them come over 'before' she goes to work. So you are actually getting them later. I leave that barfining stuff to you.

And yes, they always need a good cleaning to make 'em almost good as new! (at least new for the next customer) :-) It's like buying a used car. Nice and clean, polished, and ready for delivery.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.

You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.[/QUOTE]A bargirl liked very much to do her first (maybe) short time for the evening with me at 6 PM. That way, she had one out of the way and a nice money start, before she even arrived at work. She did not like to take LT as it typically limited her earnings potential (LT possible for larger sums or very well liked customers). However logically she isn't a virgin so freshness is only relative and we would not know for sure if she just met some other guy at his Hotel at 4 PM. Don't be so smug. Just accept that you are helping out a girl to take her at some time that is not normally so popular with all the other dudes, so she can make more money all up.

These Thai girls clean thoroughly and popular girls are able to choose less difficult customers that will not leave them devoid of energy. They are clean. Sloppy seconds is emotional bullshit.

I think many of us agree though, for girls that have too many customers, it's better to be an early customer. Arriving at shops not far from closing time is a bad idea. Girls can be very drunk late in the evening ( or sometimes even early). Drunk girls is also not a good idea.

If you haven't been here is awhile, new places abound. I recently took a buddy further to North Pattaya and Naklua. He had never been that far up. New bars, cleaner streets / sidewalks (the walkways were previously all gravel, dirt, etc.), and new girls.

In the whole LK Metro area, including Soi Buakhao, there are also new bars. Sport bars, bars with girls, and new gogos. Plenty of new faces all around. Got to love it.