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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1280552]Obstacles to dating good Thai girls:
They work ALOT. Most work 6 days a week and not only will you be competing against other dudes, you'll be competing for their spare time, which they'll often want to spend with their friends and family or they'll simply be too tired to go out.
Many not speak good Engrish! I've met a few hot live ones and their English was terrible and it became too awkward and frustrating. So learn your thai guy! Haha.
The better looking girls get tons of messages on these sites. I saw my Gik's mailbox on her Tagged account and there was maybe 30 messages in one day. Probably more. She simply deleted all of them. You want to stand out, you better be quite a compelling character.
MANY, especially the smoking hot party girls you see at RCA / Siam Square / Thong lo have NO intention of meeting falang dudes! You might get a nibble here and there, its not out of the realm of possibility, but they're generally bored or prefer to meet Thai dudes.
Some have no intention of finding a boyfriend on these sites and only want to improve their Engrish. Perhaps you could lure one of them into the friendly confines of your house, but more often than not, it's just a dead end.
Some good girls not really good girls! If her schedule is wide open, chances are she's not such a good girl!
It takes time and effort to get quality girls. Sure any Joe Blow or overweight English teacher can get a 35+ year old with horrible stretch marks. 3 kids, a previous Thai husband who did nothing but beat her and drink whiskey all day, and saggy tits to make a quick rendevous. Not much demand for them!
Thai girls are generally shy, especially if they haven't been around too many falang. I was working on one gal from Thai Friendly, a 26 year old cute thai / Chinese mix, goes to RCA often, while she's interested to hook up, she's somewhat of an airhead, and very shy to meet.
Girls that are too eager to meet right away are desperate and almost never hot. No girl worth her salt will meet right away.[/QUOTE]Tony, totally agree which is why I think Nic is just so utterly wrong on the subject and has no real grasp of internet dating.
If you have a hot Thai girl that is receiving 20 or 30 messages a day and then some one comes along and says "hey lets get on the webcam, can you show me your tits, great can you come to my place now". I mean come on seriously, how far are you going to get with that approach?
You are right, all you will get with that style is the occasional desperate fat ugly girl. No good looking girl has any need to do that.
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1280562]Tony, totally agree which is why I think Nic is just so utterly wrong on the subject and has no real grasp of internet dating.[/QUOTE]Tony & Bowerboy:
You guys, in your haste to trash Frenchy, missed the most important peice of information in this discussion.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Nic, but I think you said that you can speak, read, and write Thai. That, of course, gives you a tremendous advantage which can make all the difference in the world for farang success on any Internet dating site in Thailand.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1280526]Actually, it's quite the Opposite, I use a THAI site, all written in THAI where young THAI people meet for a good time.
You see, I use Tagged, Camfrog, TLL for the long con, but there are a few THAI sites where girls (mostly 20 24) are really bored and want to meet guys, but you need to know how to read and write Thai[/QUOTE]
The only thing I'm wondering is why he never told us that before.
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D at Dr BJ
Arrived in Bangkok today from Pattaya and planned to hit Dr BJ's asap. Hmm formatting keeps changing so I [B]B'd[/B] To separate the details further below.
Met the good Dr himself upon entering the salon. A very personable guy, answered a couple questions as the girls took their places by the railing and on the couches in the lower area. As he was explaining how the place worked I saw a very pretty face and my list was forgotten! Her hair was long and the way it framed her face made her look adorable. I still checked them all but kept coming back to her while talking with the Dr. I told the doc she was the one for me and waited with him while she came downstairs.
She had on a red form fitting dress that looked great on her. Small chest, slim waist, and a nice looking ass. I saw her tag said 'D' and I wondered why I didn't see her on the website. She asked my name and told me hers was Pat. I smiled and hoped she would be as good as Pat in Pattaya! I asked her if her pic was on the website and she said it was. 3rd one from top. I told her I didn't think I saw her pic but maybe she was just prettier in person. And I wasn't lying as I found out later when I checked her pic on the website! She does look prettier in person.
She took me over to a sink just like the ones in a hair salon and washed up my dick while chatting and laughing with me. I then sat down in the chair and got comfy so we could get the show on the road. She crawled up my body kissing my stomach, my chest and nips, my neck, my jaw line, all making me very horny! Her BJ was absolutely fantastic. Fast, slow, almost deepthroat, ball licking, ball sucking, the whole shabang. I knew I was in trouble when my legs started to vibrate and it wasn't long after that I busted my nut in her mouth. I warned her I was ready to shoot and she didn't slow down a bit, sucking until I was dead in the water and couldn't move.
We started chatting and laughing again as she cleaned me up before heading downstairs to pay the tab. A quick chat with the Dr and I was headed back to my hotel to write this up and then relax before tonight sets in. I will definitely return to Dr BJ's Salon.
I got back to the hotel and checked the website for her. Her hair today was styled differently and was more suited to her face. I believe this and the fact she was smiling the entire time is why she looked so different than her pics on the site. I think the good Dr will have to update her write-up as she was very affectionate with me. I had a wonderful time with her and can't say anything bad about her oral skills. She definitely deserves better than the 7. 6 she has on the website based on her performance with me today.
[B]Date of encounter: 13 May 2012[/B]
Name: D.
Age: Didn't ask.
Languages: Thai and a little english.
[B]Making Contact[/B]
How did you find her: Lineup at Dr BJ's. She is on the website though I didn't pick her from it.
Link:
[URL]http://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/URL]
Did she match her pics: A little, I actually think she looks better in person than in the pics on the website. I mentioned this to Dr BJ as well.
Percentage Photoshop:
Was she on time: She was in-house.
Neighborhood: Soi 7/1.
[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]
Anal: Didn't ask. It's a BJ bar.
Oral w or w / o: without until I popped in her mouth.
Kissing:
Any restrictions:
[B]How would you rate her[/B]
Face: 7, prettier in person than in her pics.
Tits: 6-7, small, nice nips.
Ass: 8, nicely shaped ass and looked great in her outfit.
Body: 7-8, on the whole her body was very pleasing to my eyes in her outfit. The first thing I noticed when she got in the lineup was her face and hair.
[B]Level of Service[/B]
Enthusiastic or Business-Like: Very enthusiastic! Dr BJ's write-up doesn't do her justice!
Clock Watcher: No. She didn't look at a clock or a watch at all.
Her strong point: Oral skills were very good.
Her weak point: None that I can think of in the oral skills department.
$$$ & Time: 1000 baht until the end plus a couple of drinks.
Overall Rating of Encounter: 10, I was thoroughly pleased with both D and the entire encounter, from start to finish.
Do you recommend: Highly recommended. If you had a bad BJ before go see her and get a great one!
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1280566]Tony & Bowerboy:
Correct me if I'm wrong, Nic, but I think you said that you can speak, read, and write Thai. The only thing I'm wondering is why he never told us that before.[/QUOTE]Maybe he doesn't want to tell us he works for Quai the'Orsay. (or for what is now the former address) LOL
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This afternoon I took the advice of this forum and went on several dating websites. I talked to the girls on cam and recorded all their vital stats and information in a spreadsheet. While on cam I made sure the camera was pointed through the window of my bedroom directly onto the sofa in the living room, so she would be aware that my sofa is in a separate room, which usually made her really horny and interested in me.
I've had sex 8 times today with 8 different hi-so girls. Average time between the first message to her and sex was 2. 5 minutes (including travel to my place on her brand new expensive motorbike). Before leaving they all made up the room and prepared fresh condoms and refreshments for the next girl who would be arriving shortly.
Thanks to everyone for the tips.
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1280539]Big deal. Another of your silly screen shots that mean nothing.
More meaningless drivel to add to your 3, 600 other posts of holier than thou nonsense[/QUOTE]Now now boy, why get so riled up boy? You need to take a chill pill or you're going to have a heart attack soon.
Is everything written on this board so important to you?
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1280566]The only thing I'm wondering is why he never told us that before.[/QUOTE]Do you write all your life on a forum where men talk about which girl they fucked and for how much? And then want try and prove they have a bigger dick?
The senior Members I met and meet when they are in Bangkok know me, who I really am and not my Internet Persona.
But anyhow, it's always fun to now and then encounter people that are deluded about what Thailand is and think that because they've been here 40 times on holiday and go to RCA and all, understand the country and its inner workings.
Thing is, No Foreigner will ever fully understand this country because they will never be let-in. Even OTH knew that. You see, I have been here a long ass time, living and working and I will never have the pretence to say I know all about Thailand, because I most certainly never will. And you know what? I am completely fine with that.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1280577]Internet Persona.[/QUOTE]Exactly :) In your case based on Fantasy. I actually think you ARE OTH. Seriously. You come across in exactly the same arrogant way and seem to spout the same non sense and with a similar amount of posts.
"is everything written on this board so important to me". No but clearly it is to you as indicated by the 3, 000 plus posts.
That post from Gentle Boner was pretty funny
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[quote=bowerboy;1280578]exactly :) in your case based on fantasy. i actually think you are oth. seriously. you come across in exactly the same arrogant way and seem to spout the same non sense and with a similar amount of posts.[/quote]nah, oth was a great man which most of you did not get the chance to meet. he's a true old asia hand.
[quote]"is everything written on this board so important to me". no but clearly it is to you as indicated by the 3, 000 plus posts.[/quote]not really, could have been in the 5000 by now, seeing as i completely stopped reading / posting for 2 years. was too busy on dating sites. hahaha.
seriously dude, number of posts is meaningless to me, it's not because someone has 9000 posts that they're better than the rest.
i just like to post and take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of people sometimes. some understand that and we have fun, others (like you) take it personal and it grows old quick.
[quote]that post from gentle boner was pretty funny[/quote]agreed, i almost peed myself.
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[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1280541]I think it would be better to move the conversation to GENERAL section or probably create another forum to discuss as it would apply to how or not to work your way upto Non Pros! On this sub forum probably more of us are interested to read about new places in Bangkok or reviews on existing with discoveries made by fellow mongers![/QUOTE]Ah, the Forum police!
Sorry but, we are in the Bangkok Thread are we not? So dating sites don't cover girls from Bangkok? And where is it written that we need to discuss pros only?
If this conversation is not where it's supposed to be, then I expect a moderator to move it or tell us the rules because so far, there aren't any here.
If ou need a report about Bangkok, you are welcome to enlighten us with one, I'll be waiting for your report.
Otherwise, you're just clogging the thread like the rest of us you're accusing.
Sorry if I sounded harsh, but rules are rules.
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[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1280573]I've had sex 8 times today with 8 different hi-so girls. Average time between the first message to her and sex was 2. 5 minutes (including travel to my place on her brand new expensive motorbike). Before leaving they all made up the room and prepared fresh condoms and refreshments for the next girl who would be arriving shortly.
Thanks to everyone for the tips.[/QUOTE]There is still room for improvement, as your girl should also keep you mildly aroused for the next girl and eventually get her a bit wet to facilitate the deed. But probably your spreadsheet is not sophisticated enough to include a "bi / non-bi" option. See? Not professional enough!
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1280584]There is still room for improvement, as your girl should also keep you mildly aroused for the next girl and eventually get her a bit wet to facilitate the deed. But probably your spreadsheet is not sophisticated enough to include a "bi / non-bi" option. See? Not professional enough![/QUOTE]Spreadsheet needs to include each girls name, number, brief description and where they are in the conversion funnel.
Second spread sheet to monitor results when split testing message content and message headers (ie test which messages work best for each stage of the conversion funnel). Same for sms messages.
I am serious, that is the extent we took it to. Myself, My German Friend and another American friend.
Crazy yes, obsessive compulsive yes, massive amounts of sexual activity yes, some of the craziest and best years of my life yes, regrets absolutely not!
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1280552]Obstacles to dating good Thai girls:
They work ALOT. Most work 6 days a week and not only will you be competing against other dudes, you'll be competing for their spare time, which they'll often want to spend with their friends and family or they'll simply be too tired to go out.
Many not speak good Engrish! I've met a few hot live ones and their English was terrible and it became too awkward and frustrating. So learn your thai guy! Haha.
The better looking girls get tons of messages on these sites. I saw my Gik's mailbox on her Tagged account and there was maybe 30 messages in one day. Probably more. She simply deleted all of them. You want to stand out, you better be quite a compelling character.
MANY, especially the smoking hot party girls you see at RCA / Siam Square / Thong lo have NO intention of meeting falang dudes! You might get a nibble here and there, its not out of the realm of possibility, but they're generally bored or prefer to meet Thai dudes.
Some have no intention of finding a boyfriend on these sites and only want to improve their Engrish. Perhaps you could lure one of them into the friendly confines of your house, but more often than not, it's just a dead end.
Some good girls not really good girls! If her schedule is wide open, chances are she's not such a good girl!
It takes time and effort to get quality girls. Sure any Joe Blow or overweight English teacher can get a 35+ year old with horrible stretch marks. 3 kids, a previous Thai husband who did nothing but beat her and drink whiskey all day, and saggy tits to make a quick rendevous. Not much demand for them!
Thai girls are generally shy, especially if they haven't been around too many falang. I was working on one gal from Thai Friendly, a 26 year old cute thai / Chinese mix, goes to RCA often, while she's interested to hook up, she's somewhat of an airhead, and very shy to meet.
Girls that are too eager to meet right away are desperate and almost never hot. No girl worth her salt will meet right away.[/QUOTE]Excellent post, I'd say this is all 100% true."Good" Thai girls are busy, with work, with friends, with family, and most certainly won't be hopping in the sack with you after chatting on the internet. The ones that will, take a look at their various email boxes and even furthermore at their motives. If you don't want to pursuit a committed full time relationship in this country, 'tis a million times better to fork out a bit of cash and have an endless load of fun.
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1280590]Spreadsheet needs to include each girls name, number, brief description and where they are in the conversion funnel.
I am serious, that is the extent we took it to. Myself, My German Friend and another American friend.
Crazy yes, obsessive compulsive yes, massive amounts of sexual activity yes, some of the craziest and best years of my life yes, regrets absolutely not![/QUOTE]. I clearly don't do that and keep on wanking. I am old school. :)
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280583] Ah, the Forum police! Sorry but, we are in the Bangkok Thread are we not? So dating sites don't cover girls from Bangkok? And where is it written that we need to discuss pros only?
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It was just a suggestion and not accusation to anyone of misconduct or not following forum policy. Secondly am sure when you talk about THAI girls, Bangkok is just part of your acheivements. I recommended General section as this topic to me seemed apt to be discussed there.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280583]If ou need a report about Bangkok, you are welcome to enlighten us with one, I'll be waiting for your report.
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Sure. When am there next I shall try my best to report. In meanwhile I come here to understand the scene or discover a new place like many others. Hopefully sooner I will submit a comprehensive report. And yes I hope that I can also get a non pros this time round.