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In a spirit of kindness, I will assume you are only trying to help, not some sort of zealot.
1. There Is a thread for this kind of stuff. 11Bravo even posted the link.
2. Several of your points are factually wrong.
3. Anyone who seeks serious medical advice via a monger forum is making a big mistake.
4. Everything in life is a risk. Being informed is a good thing, it helps you make potentially important decisions, but misinformation helps nobody, and indeed can hurt.
[QUOTE=Dxb Rocks][QUOTE=Slugger]I must say that it becomes a bit frustrating at times to dig up a specific info. As the members seem to be tight lipped about it. Recent examples being russian house address or fantasia details. And we all need time to become senior members. But then where there's a will there's always a way. And I will always try and share my info. Beecause thats what we are here for isn't it?[/QUOTE]
I appreciate your point of view.
The so called "tight lips" comes from experience. House numbers are not handed out to anyone not personally met (this is my personal standard anyway) because when they have been passed around in the past, idiots have shown up at the house door and caused general chaos.
There is no real way to parse a post (hard enough to do it with the person in front of you!) to find out if the potential punter is a psycho.
This is not BS, it has happened, and to people I know.
The whole Fantasia thing is not a secret, but it is a case of "if you have to ask, then you don´t need to know." ;)
What actually may seem to be paranoid secrecy is the result of some hard lessons learned.
There are thousands of working girls in DXB, and they can and will be found, indeed they want to be found.
Contacts, while nice if you hit it off with certain girls, or find yourself without a "date" for the evening, are far from needed.
I mongered happily in DXB for 6 years before I read anything about this forum, and while I have found it useful, and met some really excellent people (on both sides of the business) it was not required to have a good time.
Barring the friends, both virtual and "face to face" I have made here, the most personally useful and enjoyable tidbit of info I have ever gleaned from this site was the Seaview. My kind of music.
My 2 fils for the pot.
While a prolific contributor on other boards (different handle, Canadian boards), the same can't be said for my contribution here. Nevertheless, I do frequent the forums (as a paid member) to glean valuable info when traveling. I rarely ask questions and when I do, its only to clarify something after I've spent the time doing my own research.
Of the few questions I've asked on this board, all have been answered quickly and politely. The reality is that the regulars here are a wealth of info and run what is undoubtedly one of the best forums on the planet, second to none. I rarely seen a rude response to a newbies question unless it is utterly inane or the question clearly demonstrates laziness on the part of the poster (ie: obviously no attempt to research themselves). That said, looking forward to my 2nd trip to Dubai in Dec. Thanks for all the info.
On another note, and with no intention to flame, I cringe when I see "unsolicited informative" posts such as the one recently by Suhail575. As sporadic pointed out, much of what was listed is factually wrong and likely gleaned from 2nd hand sources, not a medical prof. I happen to be an infectious diseases doc (makes you wonder why I enjoy this hobby!!). I rarely contribute med advice, but occasionally, such as now, take the time to pontificate. I won't go into all the details concerning his post, but suffice it to say the treatment options listed for the management of GC are at least 20 years out of date and likely wouldn't work for the strains we encounter today.
If anyone cares, I'll post a detailed response, otherwise I'll just finish by stating the obvious, don't believe everythinh you read on the net.
Stirling
Last night my "xiao lao po" and I were walking off dinner along the creek in Deira. We decided to look in the SAS Radisson check out the restaurants for future reference and possibly grab a drink. This used to be the Intercontinental. It appears from their website it was taken over in October 2006. I did a search and found no reference to this hotel's GF status (there was a report saying the Radisson at Media City was GF, but this of course is no gaurentee)
We spotted a very sexily dressed woman heading for the Hotel, she was all over a guy she was with and we concluded she was probably a Russian WG. While I may compliment this gentleman on his choice, if you are reading this, carrying on in the street like that is asking for big trouble.
We also spotted three 99% certain CIS WGs in the lobby. The first bar was quiet but the second one we looked in; the “Ku-Bu” must have had at least 20 CIS girls. While I am not a CIS aficionado I was still impressed by the selection. It's worth checking out if you are on that side of the creek.
The Radisson web site says [quote] Our popular DJ from the United Kingdom mixes the latest music every night at one of the most well-known nightclubs in Dubai, Ku-Bu. We promise that this tattoo themes nightclub will sink in and leave you craving for more.[/quote]We did not stop for a drink as it was not the ambiance [i]we[/i] were looking for.
[QUOTE=Barcrawler]the second one we looked in; the “Ku Bar” must have had at least 20 CIS girls. While I am not a CIS aficionado I was still impressed by the selection. It's worth checking out if you are on that side of the creek.[/QUOTE]Here I was thinking that I had discovered something new. I UTFSE before posting and found no references to this Radisson. (I also tried some alternate spellings). I should have thought laterally. When I searched for “Intercon” I found this bar used to be called [b]Kubu[/b] rather than Ku-Bu, and there are a few recent reports that verify my observation that good looking CIS can be had here.
Gulf News today, 4 Nov:
[url]http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Police_and_The_Courts/10079741.html[/url]
[i]Nine women arrested for alleged involvement in prostitution
Dubai: Nine Filipinas have been arrested for alleged involvement in prostitution, following a police complaint filed by Philippine authorities on behalf of three women, who had been tricked into prostitution.
The Philippine Consulate General said the nine, most of them believed to be prostitutes, were arrested at their villa in Rigga on October 30.
Rafael Palencia, assistance to nationals officer at the Philippine Consulate General in Dubai, told Gulf News that the police acted on a complaint filed by the consulate and three women, who had come to the consulate seeking help after escaping their pimps on October 20.
"We are fed up with these pimps and requested the police to take action. Credit should go to the police for their quick action," he said.
"This is a breakthrough and will serve as warning that we will coordinate with authorities."
The consulate has received more than 30 cases since it opened its doors last year.
Palencia said this was the first time the consulate directly informed the police on prostitution cases involving their citizens.
He said the consulate did not take direct action previously. Some of the victims were reluctant to press charges or were "willing victims".
He said consulate officials would discuss the arrests and whether to pursue their own charges against the women if and when they were deported to the Philippines.
The Philippines have stringent anti-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] laws, with penalties ranging from a lengthy jail sentence to death depending on the severity of the charges.[/i]
[QUOTE=11Bravo]Dubai: Nine Filipinas have been arrested for alleged involvement in prostitution, following a police complaint filed by Philippine authorities on behalf of three women, who had been tricked into prostitution.
[/QUOTE]There have been several reports about the proactive nature of the PI embassy in this regard. Back in June there was a report in the Gulf News saying that the PI authorities were “controversially recruiting former pimps to act as informants”. I am sure I saw a long article on the lady at the embassy and her role in assisting girls who end up in P4P against their will.
[QUOTE=Barcrawler]Here I was thinking that I had discovered something new. I UTFSE before posting and found no references to this Radisson. (I also tried some alternate spellings). I should have thought laterally. When I searched for “Intercon” I found this bar used to be called [b]Kubu[/b] rather than Ku-Bu, and there are a few recent reports that verify my observation that good looking CIS can be had here.[/QUOTE]It does pay to try not only alternate forms of spelling, but also, as you say, an incomplete spelling. For example,[list][*]"ku": no hits;[*]"Inter": no hits;[*]"Intercon": 5 hits;[*]"inter*" (* wild card): 100 hits (but undesired, such as [u]inter[/u]esting, so,[*]"interc*": 18 hits[*]"ku*": 19 hits[/list]And the great thing is, 1) you get the first 12-14 lines of the post in the search results so you have a chance to see if it is of interest, AND 2) opening the post in a new window, the search term is highlighted in red on the page, making it easily seen. e.g., "ku*" also returns "kuwait" but given the word is highlighted in red, easily seen (as long as you are not a dog).
Granted, you might have to wait a minute between searches, but gives you time to ponder (or read a specific thread).
[QUOTE=Sporadic]The so called "tight lips" comes from experience. House numbers are not handed out to anyone not personally met (this is my personal standard anyway) because when they have been passed around in the past, idiots have shown up at the house door and caused general chaos.[/quote]Many forget, but [i]immoral activities[/i] are illegal here. It's not like the police can be called if there are [i]problems[/i].
[url]http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/11/02/10079211.html[/url]
Extract:
[i]Dubai: Three men are being tried for getting drunk and reportedly locking up a suspected sex worker and beating her inside a hotel apartment in Dubai.
...Then she collected her clothes wanting to leave the apartment, but the Saudis stopped her before she reached the elevator and forced her back in after beating her and dragged her by the hair.
...They then threw her on the floor and gave her water. They locked her in one of the rooms. The woman said she got away from the apartment and ran to the hotel reception where she called police. Police rushed to the hotel and caught the three men.
...The woman was charged with prostitution.[/i]
LE doesn't even need a reason to deport... given that most girls are on a visitor visa, that status is easily revoked. For those overstayers... as Trink would say, 'Nuff said. They are history. The [i]customers[/i] don't even have to gain entry to the apartment to cause problems; make enough noise outside, and for sure the neighbors will complain, which WILL bring unwanted attention from LE.
Now, YOU wouldn't do this. But how do I know? And how do I know you will be as careful with vetting requests for contacts as I am if you are pm'd the contact? As is often stated, hit any of the regular, open bars for 2 hours, and you should have more than enough contacts. Is she beautiful? Only you can answer that. GFE? Past performance with another punter can be an indication that she has that capability, but no guarantee with you. Best bet is to chat with her in the bar, see how she reacts to you.
[QUOTE=Sporadic]Barring the friends, both virtual and "face to face" I have made here, the most personally useful and enjoyable tidbit of info I have ever gleaned from this site was the Seaview.[/QUOTE]As I posted, when I arrived here, no contacts, only knowing some bar that began with a 'C'. Besides the friends met on the forum, the forum has provided me with the names of PLACES: York, Imperial, TGIT (Astoria), Jockeys (Panarama). From there, I took the initiative to go out and find the wg's. If someone as aged and [i]past prime[/i] as myself is turning them away, then believe me, not difficult.
[QUOTE=Stirling]I rarely ask questions and when I do, its only to clarify something after I've spent the time doing my own research. ...Of the few questions I've asked on this board, all have been answered quickly and politely. ... I rarely seen a rude response to a newbies question unless it is utterly inane or the question clearly demonstrates laziness on the part of the poster (ie: obviously no attempt to research themselves).[/quote]When it's obvious that someone has TRIED to find an answer (more than just the "I've read ALL the FR's, but...), then answers more forthcoming. Further, posting history (as long as it's providing info, not just more questions) also gains one [i]merit[/i]. Nothing like seeing someone with 15 posts, all of them questions over a 6 month period, with NO FR's. Makes one wonder what ARE they doing with the info. Further, the key issue is [b]IS[/b] the question answered, not the form of the answer. Once someone is [i]encouraged[/i] to learn how to use the search tools, then... a lot of inane posts can be eliminated.
[QUOTE=Stirling]If anyone cares, I'll post a detailed response, otherwise I'll just finish by stating the obvious, don't believe everythinh you read on the net.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but believe you've stated it succinctly enough.
[QUOTE=Barcrawler]There have been several reports about the proactive nature of the PI embassy in this regard.[/QUOTE]For the [i]involuntary servitude[/i] girls, I can only hope more so.
Bar Crawler - what a coincidence. I was at Radisson SAS last night also, but not in Deira.
A pal called and invited me out for a roof-top "Brazilian" party at the brand spanking new Radisson SAS, in Media City. Was a crowded affair, 95% party-goers, but lo and behold, my pal was chatting up what he thought was a regular girl (Dutch), dancing away and flirting. Eventually she made it known that she will go home with him - for 2000DH! She said she's not a working girl, but occasionally does a little business mixed with pleasure. Turns out she wasn't the only semi-pro there. The same deal with a sexy German girl. There were also a few obvious WGs, including Romanian and again Turkish. Some stunners in the crowd.
After dropping Wildcat at home, pal and I headed to Rattlesnake about 1am. What's happened to the CIS??? Only a few there. They must have found a new venue/s. There were mainly Chinese and African. My pal picked up a young slim CIS the moment we arrived, and settled in for a drink with her. I took the number of a tall slim girl (I like tall sometimes!) She said she's from Slovenia, and the accent fits. Arranged to call her soon. 400 for an afternoon at her apartment.
Had a chat with Miss Indianesque Madagascar - looking great, and very tempting.
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BTW - I did a discrete check with the Radisson front desk. Rack rate is 1200, but I can get a room for 575. As for GF status - someone will have to find out the hard way!
As it was a fiend’s last night in town we ventured out to the Seaview. As one would expect for a Saturday it was not that busy. To start off with it was mostly the usual PRC suspects, and a smattering of Africans and ‘Stanis. Then the PI girls started to arrive. Initially I spotted a group of 4, then another group of 5 or 6. Some of the PRC’s found customers and during the second set I got to thinking that the PI girls may out number the PRCs, a quick headcount put the score at 12 all, but then the PI scored a drop goal to steal the game as three more walked in.
Many of the nice looking ‘Stanis who I had seen on my last visit were MIA, but the usual suspects were present.
I was genuinely there just for the music last night, and a bit of window shopping of course, but I did talk to a few PRCs including one very nice one. Said she was working during the day and was looking to supplement her poor salary, she certainly did not come across as a real pro. Later she came back and said she was leaving, but could she get me a drink with here entry token, I said yes and did the decent thing and refunded her the cost.
The cute PRC who uses her phone note pad to communicate came over a couple of time. I had assumed she spoke no English but a quick chat showed she could go beyond the standard phrases, so I think the messages are just a way of communicating over the band.
Miss Psycho (11Bravo, you will know who I mean) came over mentoring a pleasant looking new girl (three days in DXB, no English).
A busty Afro approached “I see you were admiring me” she says. In fact I may have been monetarily distracted by her cleavage but I was watching a very nice Kyrgyz and the group of PI girls behind her. She moved off reasonably quickly once I had said I was just there for the band.
By the end of the second set my friend was getting embroiled with Miss Psycho and her protégé, it was already well past my bed time and I left.
[b]Postscript – [/b] My friend pulled Miss protégé and reports he had a good time despite the obvious communication problems.
[QUOTE=Barcrawler]As it was a [u]fiend’s[/u] last night in town...[/quote]Typo, or freudian slip?
In my quick emailing, I regularly mistype "busy" as "busty" (the T and Y are next to each other on the keyboard).
I emailed an employee today about a project, adding "I know you are busty". Luckily I checked my email before sending it. Trouble is, she is very busty, so the evidence against me in the sexual harassment case would be, ahem, very weighty.
[QUOTE=11Bravo]Typo, or freudian slip?[/QUOTE]A freudian slip no doubt, he was feindishly eyeing up Miss Protégé when I left him.
I'd still like to know, where else Filipinas have been frequenting lately?
[QUOTE=Piper1] Trouble is, she is very busty, so the evidence against me in the sexual harassment case would be, ahem, very weighty.[/QUOTE]Pendulous is the word you are looking for, or will be looking for in ten years ;)
Joe Banana: Sounds like they have set up shop at the seaview.
While I am thrilled at the prospect, some reports of their "controlled" situation is a little offputting. I will have to judge for myself ;)