Jakarta

For the sake of naming the side, let's call it Exile side as it seems girls in exile or time out tantrums.

TBH I've had several gem pulled from that side including a couple Threesome. I've never enquired to why girls are from exile side reluctant to spread their legs open but will definitely find out this time.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2939163]Delbo, totally man. Those girls in the extreme corner don't care a fuck and are least bothered / interested in customers. Some of them seem to be good, all said, I have never seen them going down with customers and don't know which mamas look after them. Has anyone ever selected from this line up, I am actually curious to know.[/QUOTE]

Just read this elsewhere. I didn't know it. But it makes sense.

50 K note ATMs will be 1.25 mil or 1.5 mil maximum withdrawal. Basically either 25 or 30 banknotes.

100 K note ATMs should be either 2.5 mil or 3 mil max withdrawal. With 30 banknotes being the max.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2939310]
It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.[/QUOTE]True. Plus, some guys are using credit versus debit cards at the ATM.

I tried an ATM app off Google Play. It was a joke. Only listed 3 different banks and only the ones at the bank locations from what I could tell. Not showing stand alone ATMs.

Not much but I have posted in other areas so that others can benefit from it.

[QUOTE=AverageGeek;2939157]

2. I haven't seen a lot of reports on Yogyakarta in the "Other Areas" thread. Any suggestions for places there or links to FR's?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2939310]In my experience, each ATM (even from the same bank) can be different in terms of the maximum withdrawal limit and the denominations of bills it has. 50 K /100 K.

It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.[/QUOTE]Yes, very confusing. Not standardised.

I had shown with attachment file whereby BNI is 2. 0 jt for my WISE prepaid card. (20 pieces of notes).

You are right, in very generally the ATM dispensed 25 or 30 pieces of notes.

If you ask around, most people in Jakarta shall tell you 2. 5 jt or 1. 25 jt or they even do not know about this limit.

For them, they mostly only know BCA and will not do the maximum withdrawal at the ATM machine.

For amount of 2. 5 jt, mostly go to counter.

My experience of max ATM withdrawal is very bad. CRAPPP.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2939337]Not much but I have posted in other areas so that others can benefit from it.[/QUOTE]Will take a look again. A lot of the reports seemed quite old which is not a great sign I guess.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2939223]Agree. Guys seem to be overthinking Classic and all other bars in Jakarta. If you see a girl, approach her and ask her who her mamasan is. She will happily point out who her mama is. Doesn't matter where the girls are sitting. If she doesn't want you she will say she's busy. If she really was busy guaranteed she will remember your face and come back to you after she's done.[/QUOTE]I also think that mamas aren't as bad for newbies as some guys have said, and that superstar Cha Cha has been overblown. (She seems to know that theres a buzz about her with foreign newbies.). On my first Classic visit, the mamas weren't nearly as aggressive as I expected. True, they were waiting like a wolfpack at the Terminal entrance and the past reports recommending that you walk immediately past them were good advice. They give up on you after 1. 5 seconds if you move fast enough and they even leave you alone for a good while if you don't look eager. Once they started approaching me, they were playfully pushy and would just move on if I didn't respond or directly but politely told them not right now.

In my brief experiences thus far, Cha Cha was the most aggressive, bringing new girls to my table every 5 minutes or so and even setting a couple down with me, but I just asked them to leave and they did. She tried to push them on me in pairs, some undesirables, which I usually declined. I only took her up on one of her 21 yo girls that I found to my taste but didn't agree to all my terms so left.

Other mamas also shifted between fine and annoying from moment to moment, so I find it hard to generalize for other new guys. I think you just need to go and get into it a few times, if you like it. My thing with Classic is that I just didn't find it that fun. The band is too loud but theres no good rocking going on because everyone just sits around. Then as others have said, its too dark to see what the girls really look like quickly. Yeah, you got to learn to weed them out, but it can be hit or miss like other parts of Asia, even when you think you got a gem, when you get down to the room you still see the baby damage, pear shape, sagging tits, or tooth misplacement that you swear wasn't there a minute before.

And the Terms & Conditions negotiation is much the same as anywhere I've been. Take a couple girls I went with for 3 some from mamasan Diamond (Inzan, not sure of spelling, but looks very masculine). Yuki is from countryside was 20 and F from Jakarta 22. F tried to tell me I would only get 60 minutes and 1 shot even though 2 girls BS, but when I told her that Mama confirmed 2 shots 90 minutes for the 500 k she changed her tune. Even then, once we got downstairs it was Nestles Quick and Instant Coffee. Yuki was somewhat lame attitude. She did get wet as I fingered her while F did BBBJ and BBFS cowgirl and she gave me decent BBBJ with aggressive ball sucking, but she wasn't much fun and rode a robotic cowgirl CFS. F wanted CFS but agreed to BBFS for an undefined tip (later gave her 150 k). Both had babies: F had baby damage but seriously fine ass to marvel at while pumping her from behind.

Neither allowed DATY in the end though both said it would be ok back at the table upstairs (wtf). This initially broke my heart LOL but Yuki was a bit smelly so no prob in the end. Their lack of interplay and mixed enthusiasm (F was fun and wild, but Yuki wasn't) stunted my growth so only did 1 shot and didn't want 2nd. I finished early by my choice, because the room was kind a rancid and they felt hurried. I gave 50 k tip to Yuki (she didn't deserve it) and 150 tip to F (well deserved). There was also an altercation in the room next door as I went back upstairs. A Chinese guy was having a major fight with mamasan. Thought it might escalate so I bolted.

I wouldn't repeat these 2, and sorry to say that I aint as mesmerized with Indo girls as a lot of guys are. IMHO, the real hotties are a small minority and fucking full of themselves. Classic and other downscale joints aren't really my thing either. Its just a bit chaotic without the crazy fun IMO, hit or miss with the girls, and then too rushed. I know most dudes don't care about the atmosphere, but I don't like fucking with mamasans clock ticking. However, I got to admit that the damage is very cheap, so nothing lost. Only cost me under USD100 over several hours for both Spa facility with food and drink and also Terminal threesome with 3 beers, bad nasi goreng dinner, water, 2 packs of cigs and tips.

Also, note that the basement Spa has suddenly upped its prices. New price list below. I protested like an SOB when they showed me but gave up after several tries and went upstairs, because wasn't impressed by spa girls.

"I also think that mamas aren't as bad for newbies as some guys have said, and that superstar Cha Cha has been overblown. (She seems to know that theres a buzz about her with foreign newbies.). On my first Classic visit, the mamas weren't nearly as aggressive as I expected. True, they were waiting like a wolfpack at the Terminal entrance and the past reports recommending that you walk immediately past them were good advice. They give up on you after 1. 5 seconds if you move fast enough and they even leave you alone for a good while if you don't look eager. Once they started approaching me, they were playfully pushy and would just move on if I didn't respond or directly but politely told them not right now.

In my brief experiences thus far, Cha Cha was the most aggressive, bringing new girls to my table every 5 minutes or so and even setting a couple down with me, but I just asked them to leave and they did. She tried to push them on me in pairs, some undesirables, which I usually declined. I only took her up on one of her 21 yo girls that I found to my taste but didn't agree to all my terms so left.

Other mamas also shifted between fine and annoying from moment to moment, so I find it hard to generalize for other new guys. I think you just need to go and get into it a few times, if you like it. My thing with Classic is that I just didn't find it that fun. The band is too loud but theres no good rocking going on because everyone just sits around. Then as others have said, its too dark to see what the girls really look like quickly. Yeah, you got to learn to weed them out, but it can be hit or miss like other parts of Asia, even when you think you got a gem, when you get down to the room you still see the baby damage, pear shape, sagging tits, or tooth misplacement that you swear wasn't there a minute before. ".

Also noticed the mamasans were less aggressive when I was there early this month. Maybe management got the word.

I always walk pass them and check out the inventory before I sit down tell, them I want to have a drink first.

Thanks for the report!

[QUOTE=Cgk19;2939355]Yes, very confusing. Not standardised.

I had shown with attachment file whereby BNI is 2. 0 jt for my WISE prepaid card. (20 pieces of notes).

You are right, in very generally the ATM dispensed 25 or 30 pieces of notes.

If you ask around, most people in Jakarta shall tell you 2. 5 jt or 1. 25 jt or they even do not know about this limit.

For them, they mostly only know BCA and will not do the maximum withdrawal at the ATM machine.

For amount of 2. 5 jt, mostly go to counter.

My experience of max ATM withdrawal is very bad. CRAPPP.[/QUOTE]You can do this: insert card. Withdraw limit (whatever it is). Repeat transaction. Withdraw limit. Etc.

The 'limit' is per withdrawal, but you can make multiple withdrawals at the same visit.

Strange. But true.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2938961]Not sure which URL you used. Below is the official immigration site and they charge IDR 519,000. The eVisa was instantaneous at least in my case. When the payment transaction completed I got an email with the eVisa pdf file.

[URL]https://evisa.imigrasi.go.id/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes that was the site I used, it took 4 days to come through for me.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2939011]Does anyone have any recent updates on the bars in Blok M, particularly on Jalan Melawai and Jalan Falatehan? Is it worth staying in this area for a change? Most of the nightlife seems to be concentrated on the North side, including Kota Indah, Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta, Kelapa Gading. My favorites are New Royal, Starmoon, Kings Cross, Hotel Classic in these areas.[/QUOTE]Onkly the dregs left in blok M and only 2 bars open well 3 if you count obamas, there empty most nights, Blok M has had its heyday unfortunatly.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2939334]True. Plus, some guys are using credit versus debit cards at the ATM.

I tried an ATM app off Google Play. It was a joke. Only listed 3 different banks and only the ones at the bank locations from what I could tell. Not showing stand alone ATMs.[/QUOTE]Didn't try in Jakarta, but other places I've been google maps works ok. Just enter "ATM near me".

[QUOTE=Member#3088;2939546]You can do this: insert card. Withdraw limit (whatever it is). Repeat transaction. Withdraw limit. Etc.

The 'limit' is per withdrawal, but you can make multiple withdrawals at the same visit.

Strange. But true.[/QUOTE]This is not strange, they want to make you pay multiple ATM fees. When the ATM is of a kind where you can swipe the card instead of feeding it inside machine, I don't mind so much. It only takes a 2-second power cut or a random malfunction for your card to be lost inside an ATM.

If you actually rent a hotel room at Classic is it possible to bring girls from Classic Terminal back to your room or do you still have to use the short time rooms?

[QUOTE=XXL;2939593]This is not strange, they want to make you pay multiple ATM fees. When the ATM is of a kind where you can swipe the card instead of feeding it inside machine, I don't mind so much. It only takes a 2-second power cut or a random malfunction for your card to be lost inside an ATM.[/QUOTE]I don't know if this works in Indonesia, but what worked in Thailand 10-15 years ago or so, when Thailand too introduced a similar fee for using ATMs with foreign cards, was to go inside the bank itself and say you want to do a "cash advance" at the counter with your foreign credit / debit card. They'd then swipe your card on their local machine, and I think I had to present my passport too, and sign the copy they made of it at the counter.

The benefits of this was two-fold (or three if you include your fear of the ATM swallowing the card): 1) no ATM fee. 2) no withdrawal limit as far as I could tell, except the one your own bank imposes.