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Nice pics!
[QUOTE=ThaKid5;1491779]and I couldn't get any pics without clothes, even when I said no face in picture they still wouldn't budge. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting some pics bro! Helps keep me focused on getting back!
I call bullshit on your girl in the middle. I smashed that back in February, and took pictures as a condition of taking her to the room. The mole on her nose is distracting, but I'm a sucker for a nice rack.
I've been back 2 times since February and she's begged for me to take her again each time. Since idle begging didn't work, she saw I had Whatsapp on my phone back in September, and has been randomly sending me nekkid pics to get my attention. I don't engage her, because the request for $$ will come next!
Long story short. Make your demand before you take her. It's your best position of leverage. All of the chicks know (through the chica network) that I'm cheap, and I'm going to take "fotos disnuda" or they can't come to the room.
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[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1492244]Yeah you got to be firm even when she looks good.
I had I chica on halloween night (amazing body) say she wouldn't go for less that $100 US TLN! No wonder it was near 3 am and she was still hadn't been picked up. LOL
She went home alone that night which was stupid since she could have had good money in her pocket.
Chances are if you over pay they under perform.
Next time I go I'm learning Spanish and low balling the fuck out of these chicas[/QUOTE]It's not really that difficult.
Just type in the number 1500 on your phone. And say "solo 1500 pesos. Why propina si estoy alegro."
Usually just typing it on your phone will do the trick, even if she doesn't know English. The girls will not over-perform necessarily if you pay more than the standard rate. Some girls will be attracted to the guy and fuck your brains out. Others will just want to make it quick and get out. It's a roll of the dice with any girl, no matter what you pay.
It's just as easy to say if you stick firm to a low price, then she'll think you're cheap and underperform just to get a little bit of cash and bounce. But best of luck, we are all in this hobby to get the best experience (well, most of us anyways). If some reach that goal by paying more, fantastic. If others get it by just having the girl really like them (and even on the rare occasion without paying anything) then excellent! The end game is the same for most of us.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1492253]2000-2500 ST is about right. We are talking about $48-$60 bucks. Where in the US can you find a dime piece for that kind of money? Don't be that guy sitting on the airplane after your trip saying to yourself "damn, that chica was banging, but she wanted 2000-2500 ST and the (faceless) guys on ISG told me not to pay that".
As much as some of these chichipatos would like to believe, chicas are not going home starving because you did not give her 2000-2500 pesos. If she is damn fine, she will get snatched up as soon as U-turn your back.
Keep everything in prospective bro. Most of the guys claiming they don't pay more than 2000 ST don't mind that there h0es look like that "thing" in the pic attached.[/QUOTE]+1.
Head on over to Europe where it costs $100 an hour and sometimes more if you want a GFE.
Always a good idea to negotiate, but if you really want to bang the girl and she's sticking to her price and you're able to afford it. Go for it. If it's a bad experience, oh well. If it's a good experience, you won't be thinking "geez, I just shot my load and am satisfied but man. I wish I would have paid $10 less."
Most of these girls will get picked out quick by just standing there, or by walking around since all mongerers walking around Sosua are eyeing just a about every girl that passes by. The ones that look good know it.
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[quote=Puntz79; 1492258]It's not really that difficult.
Just type in the number 1500 on your phone. And say "solo 1500 pesos. USDA income guidelines and restrictions."[/quote]Usually just typing it on your phone will do the trick, even if she doesn't know English. The girls will not over-perform necessarily if you pay more than the standard rate. Some girls will be attracted to the guy and fuck your brains out. Others will just want to make it quick and get out. It's a roll of the dice with any girl, no matter what you pay.
So true.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1492253]2000-2500 ST is about right. We are talking about $48-$60 bucks. Where in the US can you find a dime piece for that kind of money? Don't be that guy sitting on the airplane after your trip saying to yourself "Damn, that chica was banging! But she wanted 2000-2500 ST and the (faceless) guys on ISG told me not to pay that".
As much as some of these chichipatos would like to believe, chicas are not going home starving because you did not give her 2000-2500 pesos. If she is damn fine, she will get snatched up as soon as U-turn your back.
Keep everything in prospective bro. Most of the guys claiming they don't pay more than 2000 ST don't mind that there h0es look like this "thing" in the pic attached.[/QUOTE]You are a poor excuse for a human being! Therefore, you need to pay more! Posting that pic and saying what you did, proves it, IMO!
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[QUOTE=OldKool; 1491196]For her price could have had 3 DR girls but what the fuck. It has beeen a long time since I had plowed 22 year old pussy. I got to say she gave a 5 star performance. 5ft tall and a perfect thick body. Just the way I like them. Had all gone well I would be in the DR with some DR non pro GFE but all and all this was a very good shot in the where ever. The youbg lady hd great bed side manner. She was a great actor who knew why she was in the room. She was a bit paranoid about bein videoed or taped without her knowledge. The young lady was a solid 8. The body was flawless. She was real pro.
G.[/QUOTE]I will be traveling through Atlanta soon would you give this chic's number to me.
Did you get any photo's
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[QUOTE=ThaKid5; 1491779]The only downfall of the trip was going through DR Customs on the way back in Santiago. I was nearly questioned for 15 mins as to why I was travelling by myself. In another country where the guy could barely understand my English, I am glad my limited Spanish helped me. Never been so nervous in my life.
I hate you had to go through that shit but it being the 1st time for you I am sure when they started asking you questions you had that o shit look on your face and they just ran with it.
The next trip you will be more experienced and no matter what happens it will not bother you like it did this time.
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Thanks for all the input, hoping to go back in March, April or May.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1492253]2000-2500 ST is about right. We are talking about $48-$60 bucks. Where in the US can you find a dime piece for that kind of money? Don't be that guy sitting on the airplane after your trip saying to yourself "Damn, that chica was banging! But she wanted 2000-2500 ST and the (faceless) guys on ISG told me not to pay that".
As much as some of these chichipatos would like to believe, chicas are not going home starving because you did not give her 2000-2500 pesos. If she is damn fine, she will get snatched up as soon as U-turn your back.
Keep everything in prospective bro. Most of the guys claiming they don't pay more than 2000 ST don't mind that there h0es look like this "thing" in the pic attached.[/QUOTE]I got amazing women for 2000 and less, real talk.
Chicas try to jack up the prices when they see the thirst in your eyes and hear that American accent.
So what if you miss out on one girl? There's another one just as hot who will gladly accept $1500p.
Don't get suckered into paying more for the same thing smarter men pay less for
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[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1492329]I got amazing women for 2000 and less, real talk.[/QUOTE]What is "amazing"? It's a relative term that could mean anything. A "7" in your mind could be a "5" in my eyes. And how do we know what you really paid? I could go find bikini pics of Kim Kardashian, crop the face out, post it here and claim "I only paid 500 pesos for this chica!"
A guy just returning from Sosua can come on here and post a photo of a well-known "amazing" Dominicana (who not too many people fuck with because they know she wants 4000 ST) and claim he got her for 1000 TLN. Most guys will be scratching their heads like "how did he pull that off?" But the other half of us will most likely call bullshit.
[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1492329]Chicas try to jack up the prices when they see the thirst in your eyes and hear that American accent.
So what if you miss out on one girl? There's another one just as hot who will gladly accept $1500p.
Don't get suckered into paying more for the same thing smarter men pay less for[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with anything, and everything to do with supply and demand.
Just like Puntz79 said, most of the hot chicas know they are hot and get picked out quick. Just because you are offerning 1500 doesn't mean she has to accept it or waste her time trying to haggle with you the same way you do not have to waste your time trying to get her below 2500 pesos.
Could this same chica be had for 1500 pesos? Sure, quite possibly. If you are one of those guys who do not mind waiting until 4am for her after she's been bounced around by 3 to 4 other guys by then, then of course she probably would go for 1500 TLN. What chica wouldn't jump at chance for a hot shower, nice bed, A/C, and breakfast in the morning after a full night of turning multiple tricks until 4am? Just don't be complaining if her performance is less than stellar by then, LOL! And what is TLN at 4am when half the night is already gone?
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[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1492329]Chicas try to jack up the prices when they see the thirst in your eyes and hear that American accent.[/QUOTE]Thatz pretty funny, LOL. The percentage and absolute number of thirty simps visiting Sosua has increased exponentially since around the time of the arrival of Kenny Graham. Fortunately, the exchange rate has been working in favor of the American gringo.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1492417]What is "amazing"? It's a relative term that could mean anything. A "7" in your mind could be a "5" in my eyes. And how do we know what you really paid? I could go find bikini pics of Kim Kardashian, crop the face out, post it here and claim "I only paid 500 pesos for this chica!"
A guy just returning from Sosua can come on here and post a photo of a well-known "amazing" Dominicana (who not too many people fuck with because they know she wants 4000 ST) and claim he got her for 1000 TLN. Most guys will be scratching their heads like "how did he pull that off?" But the other half of us will most likely call bullshit.[/QUOTE]How I define amazing is pretty face, slim waist and nice round butt.
I don't have any reason to lie or brag and my price isn't in any way hard to believe.
$2500 is passions and cmp prices, you're paying for the girl AND the room so why would you pay that much on the street with your own place? Common sense.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1492417]Has nothing to do with anything, and everything to do with supply and demand.
Just like Puntz79 said, most of the hot chicas know they are hot and get picked out quick. Just because you are offerning 1500 doesn't mean she has to accept it or waste her time trying to haggle with you the same way you do not have to waste your time trying to get her below 2500 pesos.
Could this same chica be had for 1500 pesos? Sure, quite possibly. If you are one of those guys who do not mind waiting until 4am for her after she's been bounced around by 3 to 4 other guys by then, then of course she probably would go for 1500 TLN. What chica wouldn't jump at chance for a hot shower, nice bed, A / C, and breakfast in the morning after a full night of turning multiple tricks until 4am? Just don't be complaining if her performance is less than stellar by then, LOL! And what is TLN at 4am when half the night is already gone?[/QUOTE]Well (#1) no matter what time of day she's probably already been with someone in the last 3 hours and (#2) I've picked up girls at 12am for $2500. $3000 TLN. I generally don't stay out too late.
A woman is only as hot as how many men are sweating her, it's hard to feel like a "10" when you've been sitting by yourself all night.
Paying more is no guarantee of quality, unfortunately that's the type of thinking that will turn a buyer's market like Sosua into a seller's market
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[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1492512]Paying more is no guarantee of quality, unfortunately that's the type of thinking that will turn a buyer's market like Sosua into a seller's market[/QUOTE]We've seen it happen in other markets. From the reports I'm reading, it seems like Sosua continues to trend in that direction. Unfortunately, some Americans use their economy as a reference point when traveling to third world countries, instead of the local economy and customs.
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[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1492512]Paying more is no guarantee of quality, unfortunately that's the type of thinking that will turn a buyer's market like Sosua into a seller's market[/QUOTE]I agree with you completely. No one is arguing that more money equates to better service. What I am saying is let's "keep it one-hunned" up in here.
If Pinky (the pornstar, back in her early career) was strutting down the streets of Sosua, you cannot tell me that guys would not be tripping over each other and cock-blocking just to get to her first.
Not because they feel she gives great service; it is because most folks would agree that Pinky is very visually attractive. A broad like that can set her own prices, and if you don't want to pay them then you miss out on that ride.
I wouldn't mind paying to hit that if she wanted 2500 pesos. And I would definitely love to add those trophy photos to my collection and brag about it to my boys back home on (relationship) lock, LOL.
On the flip side, not everybody would agree that Pinky is attractive. They may be more into a Jada Fire or a Misty Stone.
FYI: "Buyers Market", "Sellers. Market"; not every chica in Sosua is doable. There are fuglies that will always be mixed into the scene taking up space. You will always be competing with other mongers for the same small pool of attractive chicas available. Supply and Demand. Which is why I always say if you want the odds to be in your favor and avoid a "Sausage Fest", then don't travel to the DR during US Federal holidays.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1492535]You will always be competing with other mongers for the same small pool of attractive chicas available.[/QUOTE]Trust me, there's plenty of ass to go around and the "one-hunned" truth is they're really competing for US!
Remember these women are essentially losers who only have one thing of value, and it's only really valuable in relation to who wants it. If Pinky grew up in the backwoods of Utah somewhere she couldn't give it away if she tried. The main problem is thirsty guys are over validating these chicas to the point where they have the arrogance to ask for 4000ps a night in a country where the average monthly salary is far less. And then they go fuck some bum Dominican dude raw for free! Personally I avoid the grumpy faced, high maintenance chica wolves in the catsuits because the sex NEVER justifies the cost. They want more and they'll do less.
EDIT: In short there should be a cap on what we pay because these girl will push and push until 5000 ST becomes standard.