Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Darislnd;1285276]Thanks for the update Nic. Whats your opinion of the girls at those two places vs Pink? To me, having good girls is the most important, I don't mind paying a little extra for service from someone higher end looking. Also, are all these places pretty clean STD wise?[/QUOTE]Picking / liking a girl is very subjective, I may love a girl and you may hate her because contrary to what people think, these girls don't give the same level of service to every customer.

Making the girls comfortable, joking, laughing, teasing will be "Sanook" for the girl and she will let herself go into the session.

If you just go there, tell your name, go shower and go lay there waiting for your massage and then wait for her to flip you over and offer extras, she's going to be bored and go through the motions like a robot.

I'd say if all you want is a HJ by a very cute girl, then you have to go to a THAI massage joint (one where the Thai guys go).

You'll have very pretty girls, but the MO is different.

You go there, you get a so so massage by a very cute girl and at the end she gives you a HJ. You need to tip her to take her clothes off.

Some places, TOP is 1000 and bottom is another 1000. Can be pricey.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1285405]Whats the boots on the ground report of USA dollar to baht exchange rate? On web I see you get 31 plus now.[/QUOTE]Last night 31.5 THB = 1 USD

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1285296]Facts remain facts. Pali may be taught in schools but its not very close to Thai language at all.[/QUOTE]I asked the 12 year old daughter of GF about Pali Language. They recite / chant it in prayers to the Buddha. Does she understand its meaning? Only slightly, because monks at the temple often say something in Pali and then say it again in Thai so that the Thais understand. Also Thai may have borrowed a few words from Pali, just like it borrows words from English. It has never been taught to her at school. At school she studies Thai, English and Chinese. Its a middle class school. Not free, but not the most expensive exclusive school with Farang students. Maybe some higher level schools teach Pali as an optional subject. The structure of Pali words is very unlike Thai according to my internet research.

Sorry to be off topic but this is the "Miscellaneous Off Topic" thread, right? We rarely have good mongering reports here these days.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1285393]
I invite my GF to certain functions that I know she will refuse, and then I can skip the function also or leave early.[/QUOTE]

LMAO. You guys are evil ;)

Went to Nana last night. Why I'm not sure?

Rainbow 4 had very few really pretty girls at 8PM but improved as it got later. I would rate 10% of the girls as really good looking (I'm talking about the face) , and the remainder as average. Most girls there do have reasonable bodies though. Girls with great tits, only about 10% too. The 10% of girls with silicones don't impress me, but luckily is just 10% or so.

One pretyy girl with great tits, was quickly called out off the podium by a Japanese customer (I'm guessing). She was quickly bar-fined and back there within an hour max. Probably less (I didn't have a stop-watch handy). Although I have had a nice girl long time from RB4, I see the pattern that top girls there are looking for very quick turn-over STs to make as much money as possible.

I get much better enthusiastic sex from girls at Soi Cowboy, particularly from girls at Baccarat, Suzi Wong, Shebas, Doll's House. Not sure why. Maybe RB4 is not the best place at Nana to find girls that are enthusiastic fuckers and will give a good 2-3 hour ST.

Had a quick look at Nana Car Park girls. Was early but a couple of reasonable lookers. Most very ordinary. The big difference from Rainbow 4 and Nana car park is that car park girls often have poor bodies. High percentage were either over weight or well under weight. A small percentage looked okay No one stunning of course.

Such behaviour cannot be condoned. These people should have been reported to the police or the appropriate authorities so that they be banned from entering Thailand. They create bad opinion on foreigners in Thailand.

However, I don't think all Indians are like these morons. There might be others who are genuine gentlemen, whose behaviour would be exemplary.

We have morons in all countries.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1283509]What these morons thought they would gain from their loutish, unacceptable behavior is a mystery to me. By the time they left, they had thoroughly alienated every customer and all of the hotel staff working in the vicinity of the argument.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dan Key;1284463]If you go to oilies, make sure you use very hot water in the after shower to get it all off.[/QUOTE]Ever tried to get *real* hot water out of a Thai shower? Most, at best, manage only a little warm. So you will have to use lots of soap to get the oil off and you always miss some hard to reach spots. Finally you end up both lubed and scented. Try to explain that at home.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1285546]Ever tried to get *real* hot water out of a Thai shower? Most, at best, manage only a little warm. So you will have to use lots of soap to get the oil off and you always miss some hard to reach spots. Finally you end up both lubed and scented. Try to explain that at home.[/QUOTE]The most common mistake made by guys is that they think the problem is the oil scent. It's not.

You don't have to smell clean, you need to smell like usual. Your missus will smell it immediately if you used another soap.

Bring your own soap so that you smell like you always smell at home. THAT is the way to fly under the Radar.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1285521]Went to Nana last night. Why I'm not sure?

One pretyy girl with great tits, was quickly called out off the podium by a Japanese customer (I'm guessing). She was quickly bar-fined and back there within an hour max. Probably less (I didn't have a stop-watch handy). Although I have had a nice girl long time from RB4, I see the pattern that top girls there are looking for very quick turn-over STs to make as much money as possible.[/QUOTE]A win win situation for the bar too, cashing multi-BF in the same evening through the same girl. Her, being a gogo, gets also more cash per round than not coming back to the bar and act as a FL around, since it is perceived that a gogo girl can ask far more money than a FL staying a few meters away in Nana car Park. Regardless of performances as we know YMMV.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1285099]Xenophobia is active dislike towards foreigners. Just having racial prejudices is not the same thing. Being a Farang in itself is not a disadvantage in Thailand (unless you're doing business, in which case being non-Chinese and not having connections is a handicap). It is quite often an advantage.

For lower-class Thai girls, we're sort of saviors, both in terms of money, and in liking the type of looks that desirable Thai guys don't care much for. As for Thais with money, they are far less enthusiastic about Farang, but closer to indifference than to active dislike.

A Thai princess used to be married to an American. At least one of the women from the CP Group family (richest in Thailand) is married to an American (of an appropriate social status). Xenophobic? Hardly.

To be blunt, many, if not most of us expats here are NOT cream-of-the-crop in any society. And tend to go for ugliest women within the underclass of the Thai society (who are still better than what they could get in the West). Farang also have an objective language / communication style disadvantage. However, with Thai women, being a Farang is not a disadvantage at all if you speak Thai and develop some cultural sensitivities. Very few Thai women of comparable social status would reject you as a suitor just based on being white. NOT the case in most other countries.[/QUOTE]You have a the typical view of a lot of the expats I meet in Thailand. Your view is somewhat informed but still heavily flawed. You say that foreigners are the saviors of lower class Thai girls because only we like the way they look? So how exactly do all those Thai to Thai marriages happen here? All those full blooded Thai babies running around? Thai guys are attracted to all types of Thai women. You are taking the preferences of maybe the top 1% of Thai men and then using that to determine what beauty is. I really don't care what rich Thai guys want, that's as stupid as me going back home and then assuming that the only beautiful women there are the girlfriends of big shots, movie stars and other members of the top 1% at home. Have you ever gone out of the tourist zones like Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket and such, and had a look around at the Thai couples? Can you really say that the Thai guys are only with girls who are tall, white and slim with straight noses? I'll answer that for you. No. And also can you really say the girls that they are with are all ugly because they don't fit the spec?

You say Thais with money are indifferent to foreigners and my first thought when I read this is where are you from, my second thought was how much money is the cutoff to become a "Thai with money"? Because wherever it is that you are from I can guarantee that rich people there will be indifferent to you as well, if you aren't rich of course. It's safe to say that if you don't mingle with rich people back home then you won't do it here in Thailand either. It has nothing to do with the culture, it's just that monied people stick together for the most part.

You say most westerners here are not the cream of the crop of our societies but guess what? Most Thais here aren't the cream of the crop in their own societies. If you or the people you know here go for ugly women then that is their decision. I can state from my end that me and my friends and colleagues here do not spring after ugly women. Have some of the women been outside of the specifications that the the top 1% of men seem to like? Yes. But they were definitely not ugly. But seems to reason that if the people you associate with are older foreigners then they will accept a girl who may not be the best looking simply because they are happy just to be having sex with a woman half their age. You made a lot of references to social status. I'm not sure if you were saying that because you actually believe in such a thing or if you just mean income level. I'm not white or Asian and have zero issues going after women that I find attractive regardless of whether or not they know about my "social status".

To any guys who read your post and started thinking that everything is predetermined by social status or income level I would just like to add this. If you have no problems getting a good woman back home then you will no problems doing the same here. If you have difficulties getting women back home then you won't be able to come here and get the top non-workin girls but you will be able to spend a few baht and spend some time with some perfectly fine working girls until you evaluate what's holding you back.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca; 1285632].

To any guys who read your post and started thinking that everything is predetermined by social status or income level I would just like to add this. If you have no problems getting a good woman back home then you will no problems doing the same here. If you have difficulties getting women back home then you won't be able to come here and get the top non-workin girls but you will be able to spend a few baht and spend some time with some perfectly fine working girls until you evaluate what's holding you back.[/QUOTE]I think all that was well said and I mostly agree, particular with the last part. I would just add the, perhaps minor point, that at least in my experience (and if I understand you correctly, you would not be in a position to easily confirm this) , as a whitey you do more or less automatically move up a notch on the 1 to 10 looks scale from some (but far from all) women's point of view. A considerable amount of women here are attracted to white skin and western style noses, which gives guys like me a slight bonus in the meeting game here in Thailand, while that is no bonus to me where I come from, as the majority of men have those features.

All Upper-Class Thais went to school Overseas so they have been exposed to White skin already.

One common mistake many expats make is that they think they know Thailand and thai people, well, I know only a few expats that know Thais extensively (they speak Thai, Lao, Issan.) and even they would tell you that there is no way for a Farang to be treated / Accepted fully by a Thai Family.

As far as I am concerned, I don't give a shit about all that. I have money, I am happy with my job and my life here, that's all that matters.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;1285649]A considerable amount of women here are attracted to white skin and western style noses, which gives guys like me a slight bonus in the meeting game here in Thailand, while that is no bonus to me where I come from, as the majority of men have those features.[/QUOTE]Women are the same the world over. What is so hard to understand. They can spot a loser no matter what shape or size or color of the nose. Alpha females attracted to alpha males. IF you're living in a swollen out of shape or spindly dessicated body, cheap bad-fitting clothes, a lifetime lowlife prole you will attract the same quality women no matter where in the world you are. Some women may be attracted to a two-thousand-a-month pension, which gives guys like this a slight bonus.