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[QUOTE===*****man;2385375]I think Snow White has had the better looking girls over the past few years and continues to have them. And can you name any Mango girls who started as A- but became A+? It's a nice idea but I don't see it happening.[/QUOTE]Off the top of my head, I can name 4 girls. Cream, Kate, Aom and Daa. There were many more but you would have to check the Wayback Machine to see precisely when the A+ marker was added to the profiles of the various girls on the Mango website. This happened regularly.
Girls naturally become more adventurous as their sexual experience grows. Your incredulity is a logical fallacy. If you have difficulty understanding how or why a claim is true, it doesn't automatically mean that the claim is false.
I won't question your opinion about which shop has the better looking girls because beauty is entirely subjective.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2385357]
Amm sounds worth a try.
[/QUOTE]Amm is a nice girl, of course we have known her as a receptionist for many years. She tries hard to give a pretty good GFE session. We had chemistry. I can't comment about PSE stuff and multi pops.
If she was slimmer, I might well be repeating often. Her age is not really an issue for me, but boobs so-so and small (struggling to remember detail). Definitely better looking than Chear for me, and a little better than Prae (especially for the face). If Amm had Cherry's body, would be just great for me.
I have preferred other slimmer girls over the years. E. g. Fern was older but slimmer, and repeated. Long term favourites there were Cat, followed by Cherry, followed by Yok, and finally Fern. No other girls done more than twice. Some I liked, but disappeared too quick.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385183]Some guys believe that naming their favourite massage girl only encourages hoards of drooling copycats to swarm the shop and wear her out. Of course, the "drooling copycats" part is absolutely correct but, in my experience, the "wear her out" part is entirely false. In the real world, a busy girl is a happy girl and money is the greatest aphrodisiac. This, and fierce competition between the girls, is how superstars are created.
Mango has always managed to recruit girls who are more attractive than their rivals at Snow White. I think this is because Snow White expects its girls to do anal right from the get-go. Mango, on the other hand, recruits both anal and non-anal girls. The latter are often much prettier. Quickly, however, they discover that their less attractive but anally-receptive co-workers are earning much more than them. There is only one way to compete. Motivating remarkably pretty girls to let big hairy foreigners fuck them up the arse is what made Mango great.
I believe that the conditions may now be right to make that magic happen again.[/QUOTE]Sure we can attract maniacs to girls, but right now some pretty girls in MPs are complaining there may be no business for multiple days. I know one or two. Getting some positive publicity could be help. Of course 3 or 4 dud reviews for a girl, we are likely to avoid her, as too risky. Even to find out that a particular girl has magnificent large high natural tits could be an attractive point.
Over the years I have had more different Mango girls than at Snow White, so overall they did have the odd girl that suited my taste, but not all the time. My early days at Snow White was exclusively June, while had Cat at Mango.
Girls that want to give anal for free have option not to work at Mango, however girls like to have options to make extra given lack of price rises over many years. Many girls still making about 1400 for a fuck session. Does not make sense compared to bargirls trying for 3 K these days (perhaps accepting 2500). The discrepancy seems too high unless level of looks is massively different. Doki Doki has a new price structure to help the girls get good money, and therefore attract superior girls, perhaps.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385183]Some guys believe that naming their favourite massage girl only encourages hoards of drooling copycats to swarm the shop and wear her out. Of course, the "drooling copycats" part is absolutely correct but, in my experience, the "wear her out" part is entirely false. In the real world, a busy girl is a happy girl and money is the greatest aphrodisiac. .[/QUOTE]Very true, why some members don't share details can be puzzling.
There is however one situation I understand. It's when a new girl arrives on the scene who is head and shoulders above the norm. She is attractive, young, friendly, eager and happy to please, not just open to direction but hungry to learn how to kiss and how to use her body to give good head and perform in different positions.
Some punters I would describe as mongering Svengalis prefer to keep this find to themselves knowing three to 6 months after becoming popular and doing 5 sessions a day she will no longer be that same sweet girl that gave you that amazing experience.
It's not that she has entirely changed but its human nature to become blasé doing the same thing day in day out, it becomes just another day at the office quickly forgotten. A good example of this is Kiss at Doki Doki. She is still a sweet kid, you can have a good time but the magic has gone.
On a different note Mr be. If Mango don't have a professional PR outfit touting their shop they could do worse than hiring you on say a free shag or two a week retainer.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385183]Some guys believe that naming their favourite massage girl only encourages hoards of drooling copycats to swarm the shop and wear her out. Of course, the "drooling copycats" part is absolutely correct but, in my experience, the "wear her out" part is entirely false. In the real world, a busy girl is a happy girl and money is the greatest aphrodisiac. This, and fierce competition between the girls, is how superstars are created.
A busy shop always attracts the best girls. Back when Mango was the #1 shop in Bangkok, it always had the hottest girls and they were easy to book too. They worked all hours of the day and night so they were seldom unavailable. Girl reports were flooding into the ISG at that time and a great session with hot girl was almost guaranteed.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your reports as I think, like you, that there are very few reports on specific girls in the Bkk oilies (and I also think that giving the name of the girl is really important), but I believe what you just said does not reflect the reality.
When you report a girl that is good looking and gives a great service (especially if there is A+ in her service), she is going to be overbooked for at least a few weeks, she might be unavailable when you want to meet her, and her service will probably decline quickly also. Not a big deal for a guy that lives there for a long time, but the story is different when you are in BKK for only two or three weeks per year.
I couldn't meet a girl that I had planned to meet during my last trip a few weeks ago for that same reason.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385183]Mango has always managed to recruit girls who are more attractive than their rivals at Snow White. I think this is because Snow White expects its girls to do anal right from the get-go. Mango, on the other hand, recruits both anal and non-anal girls. The latter are often much prettier. Quickly, however, they discover that their less attractive but anally-receptive co-workers are earning much more than them. There is only one way to compete. Motivating remarkably pretty girls to let big hairy foreigners fuck them up the arse is what made Mango great.[/QUOTE]Really?
How come the two times I've been in Mango I've been deceived both by the looks and by the service provided by these two girls?
Both times I chose a girl that was said to be A+ and both times I've been rejected when I wanted to fuck their ass.
First time was with Ae a few years ago, she had a not beautiful belly and I had a not very good time with her.
Second time was recently with Sara, she is bigger and darker than I thought, I went to see her just because of A+ and I was denied access to it. To her credit she offered me to come back the next day and said she would allow me to fuck her ass but I wanted to do it in the first session.
I've seen the line up in both SW and Mango and I don't think girls in Mango are better looking.
Most importantly, I've never had any girl gave me a so so service in SW. In my opinion these two shops are not comparable at all, they don't compete in the same league. The level of service in Mango was at almost zero for me, and was mostly excellent in SW.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2385416]Doki Doki has a new price structure to help the girls get good money, and therefore attract superior girls, perhaps.[/QUOTE]They are superior in what way? Maybe they offer a better specific service that some other shops, but that's the only thing I can see them being superior at (and personnaly I prefer the service offered at SW).
In looks they are certainly not (although I didn't see Kiss and it looks like she is attractive), and some of their girls are 40 up.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385344]Apple is not fat and neither is she skinny. Her figure and skin colour are exactly as portrayed in her photographs. Unlike most massage girls, her belly is flat. Her clothing conceals only her large natural breasts. When I followed her up the stairs, she looked quite average from behind but, when she stripped off, I was very impressed. That doesn't happen often these days.
Apple has a body worthy of any go-go bar but she doesn't have the outgoing personality required for that gig. She is timid and skittish by nature. Initially, she exuded fear and negativity so I went down on her right away and made like a Chinaman slurping noodles until she was moaning like a plague victim. When I finally came up for air, she was a different woman.
Her blowjob is almost non-existent due to her dental braces but, aside from that, she gave me a full-on GFE and I left walking on air. I am still daydreaming about her amazing boobs.
Apple is the ultimate YMMV girl. If you don't have sufficient game to charm a timid civilian girl then you should opt for a more experienced provider. Apple is one for the "tart-whisperers".[/QUOTE]I think I am the last report that said she is fat. For me she is fat. But for me anyone that isn't slim is fat.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2385416] Doki Doki has a new price structure to help the girls get good money, and therefore attract superior girls, perhaps.[/QUOTE]S,
What is this new price structure at DD's that gets the girls good money?
Has it changed from the 3000 60 minutes 3500 90 minutes?
My info from the girls is that they keep 50% of the house fee I. E. 1500/1750 same as regular oilies for 60 minutes and 250 extra for 90 minutes.
Nina leveraged her relationships with girls at Mitu and elsewhere to join her in her new venture. What then and now makes it attractive for girls to work there is Nina's management style, service standards and room amenities which brings in the punters in droves.
It has been a win win for the girls in that 4, 5, sessions per day is the norm for the popular girls but a massive earner for Nina and her partner raking in over a mil and a half a month before overheads. I've often wondered what the monthly envelope contains.
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[QUOTE=MrBenn;2385407]Off the top of my head, I can name 4 girls. Cream, Kate, Aom and Daa. There were many more but you would have to check the Wayback Machine to see precisely when the A+ marker was added to the profiles of the various girls on the Mango website. This happened regularly.
Girls naturally become more adventurous as their sexual experience grows. Your incredulity is a logical fallacy. If you have difficulty understanding how or why a claim is true, it doesn't automatically mean that the claim is false.
I won't question your opinion about which shop has the better looking girls because beauty is entirely subjective.[/QUOTE]There was no logical fallacy. Time to stop sniffing your own farts, old boy.
I do remember Cream and she stopped working years ago. I don't recall her ever not being A+. None of the current crop of girls have gone from A- to A+. In fact, May went in the opposite direction.
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[QUOTE=Francesco24;2385486]I think I am the last report that said she is fat. For me she is fat. But for me anyone that isn't slim is fat.[/QUOTE]Is she fatter than Snow White's Ninja was?
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2385416]Sure we can attract maniacs to girls, but right now some pretty girls in MPs are complaining there may be no business for multiple days. I know one or two. Getting some positive publicity could be help. Of course 3 or 4 dud reviews for a girl, we are likely to avoid her, as too risky. Even to find out that a particular girl has magnificent large high natural tits could be an attractive point.
Over the years I have had more different Mango girls than at Snow White, so overall they did have the odd girl that suited my taste, but not all the time. My early days at Snow White was exclusively June, while had Cat at Mango.
Girls that want to give anal for free have option not to work at Mango, however girls like to have options to make extra given lack of price rises over many years. Many girls still making about 1400 for a fuck session. Does not make sense compared to bargirls trying for 3 K these days (perhaps accepting 2500). The discrepancy seems too high unless level of looks is massively different. Doki Doki has a new price structure to help the girls get good money, and therefore attract superior girls, perhaps.[/QUOTE]You've said a few times now that times are hard and girls can't get customers but I see no evidence of this. Last time I went to Snow White I bumped into another customer going out as I was going in and there were 2 Japanese / Korean guys sitting on the sofa waiting because their preferred girls were busy. It seems Snow White is doing better than ever. Of course certain girls and shops decrease in popularity and the girls you're talking to may be a victim of that.
I do agree with you that good reviews help a girl. They want as many customers as possible and they understand that some of those customers will be difficult. I think it's quite mean to the girl if you get good service but don't post a good review.
Top girls in the oilies can easily get 5 customers a day so can earn more than gogo girls.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2385357]I haven't had a favorite at Mango in years. My top four, Cherry, who went on to open Cherry Massage, Bo, had her the second day Mango was open, Ann, who was related to Nestle and only worked occasionally during the second and third year the shop was open, and Ammy. None had kids, all three holers, all pure PSE, and seemed to take great joy in the entire process or were very good actresses. Either is fine. <snip> Ammy was thin, cute, and could deliver. Could take all you could dish out. Two of these gals loved come as well. Liked to play with it on the their bodies or yours.
I miss gals like this..[/QUOTE]Ammy, now that's a blast from the past. I really liked her. One of my all time favorite massage girls. She was very attractive, passionate, and really knew what she was doing plus she was always into making me feel great. I used to love seeing her. I thought about her a bit after she dropped off my radar screen. Ha Ha. I wonder what she is doing now.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2385412] I have preferred other slimmer girls over the years. E. g. Fern was older but slimmer, and repeated. Long term favourites there were Cat, followed by Cherry, followed by Yok, and finally Fern. No other girls done more than twice. Some I liked, but disappeared too quick.[/QUOTE]Fern was my last repeat Mango girl. Not as good looking as Ammy and I liked Ammy more, duh, but Fern was very nice and yes, she was an older girl, You could tell by looking at her nipples and her tits, ha ha. Her tits had a slight sag or drop to them. Not mommy damage, just the eventual effects of gravity on all well endowed girls over time as they age into their 30's and womanhood. It is kind of sexy, you know, although I would have preferred knowing her when she was 20. Her tits at age 20 must have been pretty amazing. But I liked Fern. I used to Line her up and invite her over to my hotel for a couple of hours before she went to work. Don't know about her Porn star capabilities, but she was another Mango girl with a graduate degree in sexual technique. She gave great BJ's and had all the right moves while shagging. She really knew how to turn me on plus like I said, she was a really nice girl. I still have her Line number. I even thought about contacting her a couple of times in 2018, but then decided against it. 555. Most times it's best to move on.
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[QUOTE=*****man;2385507]Is she fatter than Snow White's Ninja was?[/QUOTE]If I am not mistake Ninja with someone else, even I wouldn't call Ninja fat (at least the few times I met her). So for sure Apple is fatter.
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[QUOTE=*****man;2385512]You've said a few times now that times are hard and girls can't get customers but I see no evidence of this. Last time I went to Snow White I bumped into another customer going out as I was going in and there were 2 Japanese / Korean guys sitting on the sofa waiting because their preferred girls were busy. It seems Snow White is doing better than ever. Of course certain girls and shops decrease in popularity and the girls you're talking to may be a victim of that.
I do agree with you that good reviews help a girl. They want as many customers as possible and they understand that some of those customers will be difficult. I think it's quite mean to the girl if you get good service but don't post a good review.
Top girls in the oilies can easily get 5 customers a day so can earn more than gogo girls.[/QUOTE]Talk to the mamasans. They will all tell you that business is not good. You might happen to hit the place at a time it is busy, but it's not busy compared to a few years ago. There will always be gals who are popular and hard to book, but overall most gals are not doing so well, and that is why so many have gone overseas to work.