Bangkok Reports

Went out with a friend and his mate to Route 66, who are professional pickup artists. Despite the eye candy, this has to be the worst place in BKK trying to pickup girls. On Saturday nights, its too crowded, too loud, and the girls are often in groups, not really wanting to venture outside their little clique, or the girls just looking for Thai guys and not into foreign guys. I was surprised to see quite a few black fellows in this place, but they seemed well groomed and dressed, not shady like the ones on lower sukhumvit. Probably not long before seeing an uptick in half black / thai babies running around. Pretty much got no action, a few smiles here and there but that's about it. The other dude, professional pickup artists got clever and rubbed an ice cube on a girls bare shoulder and she immediately put her hand up saying stop.

At closing time, we went our separate ways, I still felt energetic and slightly buzzing, then took a cab to Climax. I saw a a girl was walking out and she said she's going to Spicey. I've never been there and decided what the hell. She said we could take a cab there and then had the driver pick up one of her girlfriends nearby. She was bragging to me how she has MANY sponsors, one American seeing her in a month, another guy from England in 2 months, and an Italian in a few weeks. This chick wasn't even all that too, amazing how these sharks can lure so many guys for sponsorship!!!

Arived to Spicey and at the Entry, the 2 girls assumed I would pay their entry fee of 300 baht each and I told the cashier I wasn't with them. I told her sorry that's more than my momma allows me to spend in one night. The nerve of some of these gals just to share a cab ride and they expect me to pay entry fee! She was a bit miffed and said to pay for the taxi and I said sure I'll pay my share and threw her 40 baht. This place reminded me of a warehouse that was renovated for Halloween time. It seemed like a decent place with a mix of good girls and freelancers. Got a free Heineken with the 300 fee and walked around and saw a hot girl in a miniskirt standing there with her 3 friends. Danced a little and then went to the lobby to chat, she started to get a bit distant, so we went back in and parted ways, walked around some more and then ran into her again she grabbed my arm then started to dance some more, this girl was a hot little tan skinned girl, said she was from Hat Yai I think. I'm fairly certain it was, but don't hold me to it.

It was getting late (early) and I started to tire, I thought the chemistry started to click again, and thought I'd just get her number, weather she was p4p or not, I still wanted to see her again for sex play. To my surprise, she said she would come with me and I was pretty happy about that. Once we arrived to my condo, we drank some more vodka, then started getting frisky, and things were about starting to heat up. Or so it thought haha. She started to complain she was drunk and tired and then said she had to go home. LOL She left, offered to exchange numbers, but I declined. I think in hindsight I should have exchanged, but her abrupt change of demeanor really turned me off and maybe when its all said and done its not a big deal.

I end up passing out drunk and just ordered some McDonalds for breakfast LOL

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1285896]The other dude, professional pickup artists got clever and rubbed an ice cube on a girls bare shoulder and she immediately put her hand up saying stop.[/QUOTE]That got me laughing out loud. Professional pickup artist? From which league? What's the salary like? As an amateur, I'm interested.

Also, looks to me that the professional who "Got Clever" was just as dumb as the next guy. Rubbing ice on a Thai girl's bare shoulder in public? Mmmhhhh I'm not surprised the girl gave him a cold shoulder.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1285880]I think Thai girls always like their own kind first. Until they get burned and change to liking Foreigners, thinking they will be better than Thai guys. Nothing to do with skin color, eye color or dick size here.[/QUOTE]

This is a key point. Thai girls get fed up with selfishness of Thai men and are then prepared to try Farangs, if they seem more considerate and more honest. Others are just looking for a guy with money I guess. Some girls just become very wary of all men in general. There are good guys out there to be had. A mate of mine was an extremely good guy, but lacking great ability to charm the girls in his home country. He got snapped up very quickly by the female manager of the Bungaloes (with daugther already) where he stayed in his 2nd day in Thailand. They are long married now. I don't particularly like his wife (too stingy and too sarcastic) but she was a great judge of male character and gave him little chance to escape, I guess.

One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.

I guess professional pickupartist is my dream to become or what I try to pretend I am, hehe. No offence.

Atleast sometimes I manage to pick up girls (not all the the time hitting a freebie / or "normal" girl will succeed. I sometimes get turned down in Thailand, Norway or anywhere else for that matter. Same same). What I have learned, and this especially goes for Thailand, is that you never touch a girl in public without her permission. In Thailand this means loose face if she is with other people.

Rubbing a little ice on her shoulder is ofcourse not worth killing (and most certanly will the girl treat is as a irritating gesture. Atleast I am pretty sure it did not drew any positive attention whatsoever. In Norway we sometimes, atleast when we were younger, slapped some womens arses in public, discoes and such. No problem. I don't think I would try that one in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1285964]This is a key point. Thai girls get fed up with selfishness of Thai men and are then prepared to try Farangs, if they seem more considerate and more honest. Others are just looking for a guy with money I guess. Some girls just become very wary of all men in general. There are good guys out there to be had. A mate of mine was an extremely good guy, but lacking great ability to charm the girls in his home country. He got snapped up very quickly by the female manager of the Bungaloes (with daugther already) where he stayed in his 2nd day in Thailand. They are long married now. I don't particularly like his wife (too stingy and too sarcastic) but she was a great judge of male character and gave him little chance to escape, I guess.

One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.[/QUOTE]Last year in the Bangkok Post there was a article regarding a topic sucha as this being discussed. Particular how useless Thai men were and how sick and tired and they better start to step up. The article also revealed that with the increase number of Korean soap operas being showed on Thai T. V. That many are fascinated and have a romance derived from watching these soaps that Koreans and others Asian men like Japanese and Chinese are becoming more popular. Many feel they look like us and have money to spend and seem to take care of business.

A few month back a similar conversation was going and someone said something to let this " better looking and stronger " it got me thinking and when I'm at some of the popular gogos I watch the girls with the Asian guys. Although there are old one I see a lot of the girls having a pretty good time with these other Asian who seem to be in the same age group as the girls working? Are they ugly I don't know but when one thinks about the article and can see a Thai women point that we look like them and seem to have money to spend. In essence they are halfway there, right!

The article goes on and state that it's not all wine and roses and many who have traveled abroard, like Korea have found out that that Koreans are pretty big butterflies themselves and can be abusive towards their women. Many have return disillusion! Being Asian I believe that women in Asia would rather stay with their own kind. If a situation arised Thai man and money staying in Thailand or Thai women and Farang I would Thai man with money!

In the end, it still the money! As for myself being asian and speaking some Thai and live here they all seem happy to meet me and say I'm nearly 100%Thai, but when I tell them my priority before they get any ideas I'm left with a empty glass and no girl. This is good and bad I don't have to buy more than one drink but I have to work harder to get them to stay?

Its not your white skin and good looks with your perfect nose it begins and ends with the $$$$$$

LBM

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1285964]One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.[/QUOTE]Love blinds people. It's that same blindness that leads guys (often foreigners) to buy property in a local gal's name only to be burned a few years down the road, often dumped for another foreign fellow or in many cases another local fellow.

To each his own I suppose.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1285964]One massive problem with Thai men, is they like to get a girl pregnant (or don't care is she gets pregnant) and then they dissappear, and get a new girl. I know one Thai man who made babies with 4 different girls (not concurrently) but he was a serial deserter. Not sure why Thai girls are so dumb as to have a baby early in the relationship.[/QUOTE]This happens all over the world. Poor [insert nationality] girls are no different from [insert another nationality] in this regard.

[QUOTE=Professor 1;1285974]This happens all over the world. Poor [insert nationality] girls are no different from [insert another nationality] in this regard.[/QUOTE]It is no different with regard foreign mongers who visit. They too make babies with local girls (BAR as well as NON-BAR ). And run away.

Girls are used to it. I am sure they are dissappointed but it is fact of life. Very few girls request to wear condom in Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines.

Chinese, Vietnam girls always do. So do south American girls.

[QUOTE=Professor 1;1285974]This happens all over the world. Poor [insert nationality] girls are no different from [insert another nationality] in this regard.[/QUOTE]In western countries it happens very little compared to here in Thailand. Perhaps in the west, the girls get abortions.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1285552]The most common mistake made by guys is that they think the problem is the oil scent. It's not.

You don't have to smell clean, you need to smell like usual. Your missus will smell it immediately if you used another soap.

Bring your own soap so that you smell like you always smell at home. THAT is the way to fly under the Radar.[/QUOTE]Well I suppose Nic would have oiled up skin every day, so nothing unusual. ;)

Its the oiliness of the oil. It is different to sweat.

I do agree that some MP soaps are going to make you smell strange though, that's why I would like to be able to get some sweaty / stinky spray to mask it, were it available. Its not very practical to take my shower gel with me, although possible if transferred to a very small container, given I have taken lube with me on occasions, and take condoms if going to a Thai oriented soapy where the girl's condoms may be too small (49s are rather uncomfortable) or too thick.

Fortunately my GF doesn't come up to me sniffing. I take showers very often so that any given shower at home after going out won't seem strange. Get rid of unusual smells quickly is the point.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1285546]Ever tried to get *real* hot water out of a Thai shower? Most, at best, manage only a little warm. So you will have to use lots of soap to get the oil off and you always miss some hard to reach spots. Finally you end up both lubed and scented. Try to explain that at home.[/QUOTE]You must be referring to Hotel showers. My home shower is certainly capable of hotter than I can stand. The heat dial is always on very low. Many MPs have a similar on wall electric instant water heater. It should be capable of quite hot if adjusted.

No matter, I recommend lotion rather oil, as its easier to get off to point where won't be noticed.

In the west, its the opposite, especially if the dude's wealthy its like hitting the lottery. Its no accident many athletes have multiple kids from multiple mothers.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1286040]No matter, I recommend lotion rather oil, as its easier to get off to point where won't be noticed.[/QUOTE]I recommend to start playing with your girl right in the shower and then continue on the bed. No oil, Lotion or whatever! You'll smell like pure sex. Haha

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1286045]I recommend to start playing with your girl right in the shower and then continue on the bed. No oil, Lotion or whatever! You'll smell like pure sex. Haha[/QUOTE]Your right. I haven't actually had much lotion lately. I usually say to forget the massage, unless she wants to brush over me with nice soft tits. Certainly the "special" comes before any attempt at semi-real massage for me, and then often we run out of time.

I am not paying for a massage. My favourite girls soon get used to not bothering with massage. I have no real use for a massage. If I did I might go to a spa.