If you ever managed to reach the level of babble, it would be an improvement.
[QUOTE=Questner;2804310]This type of ignorant babble always amazed me. Incomprehensible pile of nonsense.[/QUOTE]Too bad the best you can do is post infantile videos and images. It's no surprise that you'd find anything beyond two syllables to be incomprehensible.
500 more dead Orcs for every lame pic!
[QUOTE=Questner;2804322]'Hey you, stop scaring the ostrich!
I'm not asking anyone have you ever been to Crimea or Donbass, or have ever tried to swim across the river Dnepr, but to know where the front line at the moment is basic.[/QUOTE]Nice going! It's kind of like Nero fiddling while Rome burned. Except that it's Questner diddling (himself) while the Russian imvaders burn.
Russian imperialists, go fuck yourself!
[QUOTE=Questner;2804316]Have you got brain freeze, too much chocolate ice cream? Yanukovich, although corrupt, was a duly elected President of Ukraine. What do you mean by saying 'get rid of'? Do you get you can't seat on both chairs. Until the coup Russia tried her best to live peacefully with Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Whatever internal issues were happening WITHIN Ukraine, Russia had NO fucking right to cross the borders. Russia had plenty of infuence in post-Soviet Ukraine, both directly and through proxies. It's clear from the way things unfolded that Ukraine wants to have a future in Europe and NOT in Russia's sphere of influence. If that wasn't the case, then Russia would have been welcomed in the way that Putin delusionally thought would happen. The fact that Ukraine has resisted tooth-and-nail, INCLUDING in predominantly Russian-speaking areas, is proof positive that Ukrainians want Putin and his Orcs to fuck off to hell.
The coup myth is dead and buried, except among the perpetually deluded.
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2804541]Henry the K and Tricky Dick's "Make the Economy Scream" (in Chile). Would not have worked for Putler in "influencing" Ukraine. CIA sponsored coup ousting Victor Y ?
Possible. So what now, 400 pound incels living in mom's basement? Does Finland in NATO raise your hackles? Putler could care less, he says. Too bad Fat Nixon is being neutered. Could have ended the Special Military Operation in a day.[/QUOTE]Here's just one of many articles debunking the tired "CIA coup" cliche:
[URL]https://bitterwinter.org/myth-of-the-american-coups-in-ukraine-2-2014/[/URL]
Article highlights:
1. Little Victor already had a sketchy political history in Ukraine.
"Viktor Yanukovych, the politician whose presidential election was annulled by the Supreme Court for electoral fraud in 2004".
2. Little Victor won the 2010 election with less than 50% of the vote. And he ran on an electoral platform that was specifically in favor of integration with the EU.
"Yanukovych ran again for President in 2010, with a platform that included Ukraine's request to become part of the European Union. He won the election by obtaining in the second turn 48.95% of the vote against 45.47% of his opponent Julia Tymosenko".
3. After his election, not only did Little Victor arrest his political rival (Tymosenko) but he completely reneged on his commitment to EU integration.
"On November 21,2013, Yanukovych abruptly announced that he would not sign the Association Agreement with the European Union that had been agreed upon, and would rather enter into a treaty of economic cooperation with Russia. This was a complete about-face with respect to the program on which he had been elected".
4. Little Victor cemented his reputation as Putin's lackey when he adopted the Russian whitewashed view of the Stalin-orchestrated Holodomor famine.
"When Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper during his visit to Ukraine went to pay his respects to the victims of the Holodomor, many of whom were ancestors of Canadian Ukrainians, at the Kiev memorial of the genocide, Yanukovych declined to participate and told Harper there had been no genocide. As some scholars have noted, many non-Ukrainians failed to understand the enormity of Yanukovych's claim. It was as if a president of Israel would publicly deny the Holocaust".
5. If 1-4 (above) are thought of as the kindling, this next highlight is what actually lit the fire.
"What started in Maidan Square as a small and peaceful protest mostly by university students escalated to violence and to a revolution, which was called Euromaidan or the Revolution of Dignity. What changed the course of the events was the brutal repression of the students by police on November 29. Dozens of students were badly beaten. Many who went to Maidan Square after November 29 would probably not have protested for the European Union, but took to the streets to denounce police brutality, which they regarded as evidence of the authoritarian drift of the Yanukovych government".
One final point made in the article is that the estimates of protesters in Kyiv range from 400,000 to 800,000. So, in order to believe in the "CIA" myth, you have to deny each of those protesters their individual agency. Each one of those people made an individual decision to actively join the protests. If you think the CIA can mind-control hundreds of thousands of people, then I have a bridge across the Kerch Strait to sell you.
Or, one can take the "Occam's Razor" approach and consider the plain facts of the matter. Little Victor did not have a large base of support and, after reneging on a key campaign promise and adopting a Holodomor-denial position, flushed the remainder of his support down the toilet. Then, thinking he could stay in power using brutal and repressive tactics, he lit the match that sent him crashing, burning, and fleeing to Russia.
