Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=TrueBlue666;2392726]Decided to try Sara because of (or in spite of?) her reviews. Sometimes I just get the mostly baseless assumption that I'll have a better experience. That pretty much ended up being the case again. Her face is mostly the same as her pictures (a bit darker, though, shocking, I know). She said her age as 22-23 (I've never had the answer given as a range before), and I'm inclined to believe that's probably accurate. As stated previously, she's not skinny, but she's not fat, but she has rather large breasts for a thai gal, and they felt natural. As for the experience, she was only slightly stubborn, gentle coaxing was really all it took to get her to do something, and really the only thing she absolutely forbade was kissing. She was a little reluctant to let me in the back door (I'm not small), but she ended up taking it in multiple positions anyways, again with a bit of gentle coaxing. Flattery and a friendly demeanor can go a long way. After we finished and were just chilling off, she was actually pretty friendly. I guess she goes back and forth between Thailand and Korea (spending more time in Korea than Thailand), so if you don't get to see her, that may be why. Would I recommend her? I don't know. If you're kind of the impatient sort, probably not. If some reluctance doesn't bother you, then I'd say you'll be fine.

Any other younger "A. Level" (A+, greek, back door-othies, etc etc) gals anyone'd recommend for this weekend? When I say younger, I mean mid twenties or younger. I don't mind reporting on them if I try them out. I've already tried the Snow White and Cherry girls that I've wanted to try.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I was thinking about giving her a try (because of the big boobs) but if she can't even kiss then.

[QUOTE=*****man;2392794]Even Focus is now refusing a finger in her pussy or arse. To be fair she did immediately follow up with 'you can put your dick in my arse' but even Addict girls are ok with a finger in the pussy so I was surprised a provider with a reputation for good service would have this attitude.[/QUOTE]Girls can suddenly get restrictive of this, due to a bad experience with being scratched by some guy, either finger nail or even hard protruding skin on fingers. We need to keep fingernails trimmed and smooth, and make sure no hard skin bits sticking out.

Another reason is when the girl does not want us to detect a sponge stuffed up the pussy.

I still find 90% of generally non-restrictive girls are allowing finger in pussy to some degree, and helps if they are regulars. I always liked to finger girls, to check for a sponge only 4 inches in which will restrict the fuck (and needs to be removed even if she has a period), and also it turns me on to feel up a nice smooth pussy.

Plenty of girls are scared of being probed in case of being scratched or suspecting dirty fingers, not properly washed which could cause infection. Dirty dick is equally bad, but normally condoms are used. Hence some girls are allowing finger in pussy if finger is wearing a condom. Still better than nothing for me, even if prefer BB finger. Maybe Focus will allow this.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2392953]I miss the old days when the mantra at the PSE shops was, "All girls do everything. " Saeng would make a point of telling you that when you entered a Tulip. Mango, SW, and Cherry were the same when they first opened. We're a far cry from that now.[/QUOTE]As somebody noted it's odd that a girl allows a dick front and back but not a finger. I'm wondering has it something to do with possible discomfort from nails biting into sensitive tissue.

Tulip stands out for consistent PSE in as much as almost all providers are on the same page. The other so called PSE shops have some girls that "do everything" but in general wherever you go you most likely will have to sacrifice looks and age in getting the full monty. It is what it is, younger cute girls generally do not want anal and do not need it in their routine to attract customers and to be honest I feel it was always this way even in the good old days.

Follow up question to my first one. I know I can read the post, but between here and all the blogs there seems to be some inconsistency.

How much should I expect to pay for just a straight Nuru massage with 1-2 pops? Not looking for anal (man you guys love butt stuff LOL). Just a good session with a hot girl. I know go gos have become overpriced. Thermae is decent, but the ones I like only want Asians. I'm staying on soi 11 so I know I can get freelancers, but there is just something about getting washed, body glides and laid.

As always I appreciate feedback and will post when I go to the spot I pick.

Just popped into SW this evening after a bite to eat on my way back home. Approx 10 pm. Walked and her ladyship. (Mamasan) showed me the menu as per usual. I went for the 90 minute option as it was already late in the day. Handed over 2,100 baht when one of the girls walked up behind me. I thought. Assumed she was going to walk be into backroom so I could select a girl; I think there were another 4 or 5 in total. But nope. She was in the process of ushering me up the stairs. I turned back round to the Mamasan who said that she was my girl.

I asked "I don't get to choose anymore? She said. "hmmm. Why you want to choose?" Anyway, for a second I thought ah wtf, ok then I will go with her. However then said, no, I want to choose, I always choose. The girls at the back all eagerly jumped up to be selected. But the moment was gone, I said 'forget it, give my money back I will go somewhere else". She argued and huffed and puffed but in the end she handed over the money.

Literally walked across the road, paid 2,400 baht (yes, 300 more), but received a fab massage, BBBJ, good sex, a new friend on Line whom I will talk to the hotel soon for an overnight. Left her a 500 baht tip just because she treated me with respect unlike the Mamasan at Snow White. Never again (after having been there before).

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2393042]As somebody noted it's odd that a girl allows a dick front and back but not a finger. I'm wondering has it something to do with possible discomfort from nails biting into sensitive tissue.

Tulip stands out for consistent PSE in as much as almost all providers are on the same page. The other so called PSE shops have some girls that "do everything" but in general wherever you go you most likely will have to sacrifice looks and age in getting the full monty. It is what it is, younger cute girls generally do not want anal and do not need it in their routine to attract customers and to be honest I feel it was always this way even in the good old days.[/QUOTE]When Mango and Snow first opened over 10 years ago they were every bit as full on as Tulip but with better looking gals. That lasted a few years.

[QUOTE=MarksusSex;2393169]Just popped into SW this evening after a bite to eat on my way back home. Approx 10 pm. Walked and her ladyship. (Mamasan) showed me the menu as per usual. I went for the 90 minute option as it was already late in the day. Handed over 2,100 baht when one of the girls walked up behind me. I thought. Assumed she was going to walk be into backroom so I could select a girl; I think there were another 4 or 5 in total. But nope. She was in the process of ushering me up the stairs. I turned back round to the Mamasan who said that she was my girl.

I asked "I don't get to choose anymore? She said. "hmmm. Why you want to choose?" Anyway, for a second I thought ah wtf, ok then I will go with her. However then said, no, I want to choose, I always choose. The girls at the back all eagerly jumped up to be selected. But the moment was gone, I said 'forget it, give my money back I will go somewhere else". She argued and huffed and puffed but in the end she handed over the money.[/QUOTE]Possible the girl selected by the mamsam is not popular and she was simply trying to get her a customer. A more nefarious explanation would be an arrangement between the mamsam and some of the girls involving kickbacks. Either way bad for business which will eventually result in some popular girls going elsewhere. Take away from your experience: never pay before seeing the goods. Incidentally is upfront payment compulsory at SW nowadays?

Fingernails are a working girls worst enemy. One nick from a dirty nail can create a pretty nasty infection in the money maker.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2393042]As somebody noted it's odd that a girl allows a dick front and back but not a finger. I'm wondering has it something to do with possible discomfort from nails biting into sensitive tissue.

Tulip stands out for consistent PSE in as much as almost all providers are on the same page. The other so called PSE shops have some girls that "do everything" but in general wherever you go you most likely will have to sacrifice looks and age in getting the full monty. It is what it is, younger cute girls generally do not want anal and do not need it in their routine to attract customers and to be honest I feel it was always this way even in the good old days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarksusSex;2393169]Just popped into SW this evening after a bite to eat on my way back home. Approx 10 pm. Walked and her ladyship. (Mamasan) showed me the menu as per usual. I went for the 90 minute option as it was already late in the day. Handed over 2,100 baht when one of the girls walked up behind me. I thought. Assumed she was going to walk be into backroom so I could select a girl; I think there were another 4 or 5 in total. But nope. She was in the process of ushering me up the stairs. I turned back round to the Mamasan who said that she was my girl.

I asked "I don't get to choose anymore? She said. "hmmm. Why you want to choose?" Anyway, for a second I thought ah wtf, ok then I will go with her. However then said, no, I want to choose, I always choose. The girls at the back all eagerly jumped up to be selected. But the moment was gone, I said 'forget it, give my money back I will go somewhere else". She argued and huffed and puffed but in the end she handed over the money.

Literally walked across the road, paid 2,400 baht (yes, 300 more), but received a fab massage, BBBJ, good sex, a new friend on Line whom I will talk to the hotel soon for an overnight. Left her a 500 baht tip just because she treated me with respect unlike the Mamasan at Snow White. Never again (after having been there before).[/QUOTE]Any MP that includes almost undoable girls will try to assign one, to balance the workload. You must choose first, pay after. Always ask to see the line up straight off before anything else. Paying first really suggests you don't care, and anyone left over will do. So partly you invited the problem, IMHO.

Then you should not have asked if you can choose, but should have stated that you will choose a girl. Not giving them an option. I am not aggressive but the norm for me, is to check the line up and leave, when no one is appealing. There is no guarantee I will take someone, and I would not have considered the type of service as yet.

Having chosen a girl, I might ask if she likes gel massage or oil massage, etc. Although it is likely I will not take any "massage" at all. I do take Nuru if is available and girl is willing.

At 10 PM I would expect the line up to be potentially quite weak. I prefer to attend somewhat earlier if possible. however I know that sometimes the time gets away.

[QUOTE=Diglerni;2393131]Follow up question to my first one. I know I can read the post, but between here and all the blogs there seems to be some inconsistency.

How much should I expect to pay for just a straight Nuru massage with 1-2 pops? Not looking for anal (man you guys love butt stuff LOL). Just a good session with a hot girl. I know go gos have become overpriced. Thermae is decent, but the ones I like only want Asians. I'm staying on soi 11 so I know I can get freelancers, but there is just something about getting washed, body glides and laid.

As always I appreciate feedback and will post when I go to the spot I pick.[/QUOTE]Nuru is available at several places and the prices are inconsistent. I recommend 90 minutes minimum so no rush but maybe some guys can get by with much less if they pop quickly. Proper Nuru uses a slippery gel (like egg white but less sticky) made from seaweed extract. It is virtually tasteless so if gets in your mouth no problem. I can give DATY (69 position) to girl's pussy while she slides on me.

You won't get a 2nd pop included in most places without negotiating an extra fee for it, however others may have info about where a 2nd pop is included. (I never take 2nd pop).

Nuru price is normally higher than Oil massage, as it is harder work for the girl. She has to use muscles to stabilise herself on a slippery body. Some well known Nuru places (and there will be many more): DokiDoki (about 1 k or so dearer than most places for 90 minutes) Soi 31, Chrome bar Soi 7/1 (body slide also possible at Wood bar VIP room), CanCam Soi 24/1, New Massage Soi 33, Dream Heaven Soi 33, plenty of others.

I think a cheap Nuru will be 2300 for 90 minutes including sex (or maybe slightly more if my memory is bad) and probably do not provide air mattress, some will be 2700 or 2900, and Doki Doki was either 3500 or 3700 I forget (perhaps 3500 for 60 minutes). VIP rooms can add to the price but not much benefit, May include a Jacuzzi. Sometimes large rooms can be hot, due to Jacuzzi and aircon not coping.

Despite DokiDoki being more costly, the experience for me was excellent, with well trained girl, where at a cheaper place girl may not be so great. Chrome bar specialises in bodyslide on a large mat (not an air matress) so they ought to be good at it. I took two girls at Chrome bar once. One was excellent and the other a bit lazy.

Years ago I had a Nuru slide on mattress at Geisha massage with girl called Guitar. Mattress was leaking and starting to deflate but I still had great fun with the girl and fucked her on the deflating mattress. I intended to repeat her often but she quit quite quickly. Seems she came from too far away and had traffic to fight to get to work. Often happens that the most fun girls don't last that long if they are not hardened hookers. On the other hand newbie girls can be dick scared (maybe that is a reason that some of them leave - can't handle a pounding).

In old days I used to do mostly Soapies and some of those had bodyslide service. I used to take bodyslide at Mona Lisa, Emannuelle, Chao Praya II (if body section girls were not too fat and had pretty face), Cleopatra (Din Daeng), even Nataree. Annies was not good - cramped space and aircon too cold. The bodyslide died out gradually, and my attendance to Soapies also gradually died out. So Nuru body slide is the new option for me. I don't need to waste excessive time in the bathtub like at a Soapy.

So DokiDoki seems a lot less risky to me, for getting a dud girl, than going to a Soapy MP. Some surgeries in the Nuru MPs too but maybe less than Soapies generally.

Took her. Everything about her is natural except for her silicon implants. She looks much better than her pics suggest. She is in late 20's and no baby damage. Patient with her BJ and makes fake noise while having sex. Did not complain much during the session, but I don't think she can take heavy pounding. I took her for 90 min on first day and wanted to repeat the next day, but she did not agree for more than 60 min. Strangely, mamasam seem to encourage that behavior. I asked for other girls but she kept on giving my excused for why others girls I wanted (either kitty or beauty) were not available next day. She almost seemed to dissuade me at the expense of getting more business from me. May be because I end up using all my time with the girls there, but you get a mix of customers.

Overall, positive on the girl but increasingly more negative on SW.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2393042]As somebody noted it's odd that a girl allows a dick front and back but not a finger.............[/QUOTE]Dick is covered, finger is not.

[QUOTE=TempStories;2393368]Took her. Everything about her is natural except for her silicon implants. She looks much better than her pics suggest. She is in late 20's and no baby damage. Patient with her BJ and makes fake noise while having sex. Did not complain much during the session, but I don't think she can take heavy pounding. I took her for 90 min on first day and wanted to repeat the next day, but she did not agree for more than 60 min. Strangely, mamasam seem to encourage that behavior. I asked for other girls but she kept on giving my excused for why others girls I wanted (either kitty or beauty) were not available next day. She almost seemed to dissuade me at the expense of getting more business from me. May be because I end up using all my time with the girls there, but you get a mix of customers.

Overall, positive on the girl but increasingly more negative on SW.[/QUOTE]One possibility is SW could be having a problem retaining gals. So what these days is considered a "demanding" customer is steered away from the prettier more uppity gals who can't take a full on 90 or 120 min session. My guess is we westerners expect a lot more than our Asian counterparts and the younger prettier ones would rather do the Asian guys. Used to see one gal at Tulip about once a month. Surprisingly, the vast majority of her customers were Asian. She said only about 2 out of 10 want A+ and most were not very hard work, even in a 2 pop session.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2393359]Any MP that includes almost undoable girls will try to assign one, to balance the workload. You must choose first, pay after. Always ask to see the line up straight off before anything else. Paying first really suggests you don't care, and anyone left over will do. So partly you invited the problem, IMHO.

Then you should not have asked if you can choose, but should have stated that you will choose a girl. Not giving them an option. I am not aggressive but the norm for me, is to check the line up and leave, when no one is appealing. There is no guarantee I will take someone, and I would not have considered the type of service as yet.

Having chosen a girl, I might ask if she likes gel massage or oil massage, etc. Although it is likely I will not take any "massage" at all. I do take Nuru if is available and girl is willing.

At 10 PM I would expect the line up to be potentially quite weak. I prefer to attend somewhat earlier if possible. however I know that sometimes the time gets away.[/QUOTE]Well, all reasonably fair points I suppose, only to a degree however. The behaviour I encountered is the exception to the rule of the places I tend to frequent. The mamasan's who know me, know also I look after them (as well as the girls well). For the avoidance of any doubt, that translates as I spend a fair few bob. That relationship works well and has over the course of many years has resulted of great nights out (well over and above the shag itself).

I know I that my spending behaviour. Or now lack thereof as is now the case with SW- will not change much or anything for that matter on any scale in BK. However, my well earned filthy lucre will only find its way to a select number of establishments.

When I go for a massage / sex I don't want to take on a psyche of going into battle / war. I am there to have a good time. In the end I got my money back, some other girl across the road who did a good job got some extra cash and maybe some others walking into SW will now more forewarned. Once bitten twice shy is the name of the game.

[QUOTE=MarksusSex;2393521]
When I go for a massage / sex I don't want to take on a psyche of going into battle / war. I am there to have a good time. In the end I got my money back, some other girl across the road who did a good job got some extra cash and maybe some others walking into SW will now more forewarned. Once bitten twice shy is the name of the game.[/QUOTE]Yes I absolutely agree. In some places I may get a bad reputation, for walking in and not choosing anyone, or being a guy that fucks too long. In Dozo massage I thought the line up was going to be great but of about 12 to 15 girls, only 4 were shown to me (as willing to do Farangs), and they did not appeal as much. So if I paid first, that would be bad luck, or needing to go through request refund hassle, which I prefer to avoid.

Tulip is another shop that might assign you a girl (ugly as they come) , if you did not stop them from doing so, and I am sure there are plenty of other shops that will try it. Spas with real massage are probably not used to customers wanting to select from a line up. After all a real masseuse does not need to be good looking.

Those that want a milking table service could utilise a real "dog" under the table to suck through the hole, since you would not need to see her. I can't quite see the thrill of being blown by an unseen girl under the table, or old hag, (or even ladyboy could be substituted). I guess webcams have put all the old hags doing phone sex out of business.

Many BJ shops think you should choose the girl with excellent BJ service, no matter how ugly she might be. ha ha. An ugly girl at Star of Light once said to me, "Its a BJ and she is a real expert, so why do care what she looks like?" The old saying "Put a bag over her head, and fuck her" would not apply to BJs. Still if my BJ girl is hot, I will likely want to fuck her too, and usually do.

I never utilised Akane because they like to choose one of the two girls assigned, I believe. That's definitely not for me.

Although not a SW regular, I will still use them, expecting better than average service levels, but always make it clear which girl I want, or see the line up. Its just easier, to avoid hassles. The receptionist can be trying to help out the girls, rather than being totally customer service oriented. Many girls are struggling to make enough money these days. Some other shops can be very quiet even, especially if not well managed. Things that are need to make a shop popular seem obvious to us, yet many shops don't get it. DokiDoki seems to be doing well from the outset. Yet some shops, like Daisy Dream, stupidly concentrate on a fancy dcor in reception, instead of having nice good looking girls that give great service.

At SW, Beauty was O.K. with nice smile and great pussy. BJ was so-so. Annie was very enthusiastic and quite good (older), drawback was zero tits and very skinny. I think I would like to try Lemon next time, unless anyone else is prettier (ha ha). However I like slim girls. No recent dud girls for me at SW.

To me, only the particular girls really matter. I tolerate annoying shops with annoying front of house staff. The world is not perfect.