Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1818054]I'm surprised you would say that considering all of the years you spent in Cali. There are many people in Cali that have Indian blood in them. Some of the most beautiful women there have Indian blood and are referred to as "una India" or " La India". No one hid the fact that they had an Indian heritage.[/QUOTE]In his cryptic style he may be referring to paisas, and indeed most of them do not have native Indian blood. This is in spite of what he thinks. You can google the demographics of Medellin and learn that pretty much everything the paisas told Sparrow and that he rejects is indeed correct. It is a city of Spanish descendants and European immigrants. Here, I'll save the trouble.

According to figures submitted by the DANE census 2005. The ethnographic makeup of the city is:

Black, mulatto, Afro-Colombian or Afro-descendant: 6.5%.

Indigenous Amerindians: 0.1%.

No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%.

During the 17th and 18th centuries, Medellin received many immigrants from Spain. Most Indigenous peoples died from the introduction of European diseases, and many of those who survived intermarried with early Spanish settlers, who were mostly men; later, Spanish women also began to immigrate. During the 19th and 20th centuries, immigrants arrived from Lebanon, Jordan, Germany, Italy and Portugal. Many people from Medellin are referred to as Paisas, people of mainly Spanish ancestry, a lot of them Basque. There is a small Afro-Colombian and Zambo-Colombian (people of Indigenous and African descent) population.

So is the result based on respondents' choice, rather than a scientific gene study on the sample of population?

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1818181]According to figures submitted by the DANE census 2005. The ethnographic makeup of the city is:

Black, mulatto, Afro-Colombian or Afro-descendant: 6.5%.

Indigenous Amerindians: 0.1%.

No ethnic affiliation: 93.4%..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1818193]So is the result based on respondents' choice, rather than a scientific gene study on the sample of population?.[/QUOTE]Well yeah, followed by historical information about immigration to the city and the decimation of the native population many years before. Admittedly far from perfect, but I think for now I'll take that over Sparrow's extremely loose narrative and comparisons to Peru. Medellin does not have a large native population. It is rather obvious.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1817823]It is quite difficult to find a Colombian that that will admit to even having any Indian heritage. The only question is are they in denial or just ignorant.[/QUOTE]The Colombian native population has been so watered down and disbursed, along with a large percentage of the population self identifying with the Spanish, that I think many are indeed ignorant of the Indian in their heritage. Certain areas of Colombia have much more Indian influence like Cali and Cartagena, and also many of the poor regions and areas most of us don't go. Usually the native Indian blood is at least several generations old, and do really any of us know our entire genetic history outside of those of us who have sent off our DNA? (I haven't and don't know).

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1818054]I'm surprised you would say that considering all of the years you spent in Cali. There are many people in Cali that have Indian blood in them. Some of the most beautiful women there have Indian blood and are referred to as "una India" or " La India". No one hid the fact that they had an Indian heritage.[/QUOTE]They'll call any girl with long black straight hair "La India". I get the impression that the term is used more to describe the hair of a particular girl than whether or not. They actually think they have Indian blood in them.

Although my experiences are anecdotal. I have talked to numerous Colombianas that obviously have Indian blood in them that will say they are not Indian at all. Whether they are lying or really believe it is a mystery to me. Never cared enough to press them on the subject. I did ask one girl where she thought all the Indians went if Colombians aren't Indian. Her reply was simply. "I don't know".

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1817708]This is a rather funny exchange with one gringo insisting over and over he is special and somehow has the ability to blend in with society, while the other who knows him insists he doesn't.

I have lived in Colombia at times and have been traveling to Medellin before the mansion existed. When I lived in Colombia, everyone in my neighborhood and in the city was well aware I wasn't.

Blending. Still I made many friends and was treated well for the most part. I dress the part, speak Spanish, am in shape, and do pretty good with the ladies. However, as I walk down the street or especially as I sit in a restaurant with a 20 something girl, am well aware of the opinions of the local families around me. It doesn't bother me per se, but I am respectful and don't make a brash scene of myself.

When I go out I always try to be respectful of the local culture and the fact that people are going to be judging my actions by the fact that I am an extranjero. Contrast that to a table I was next to recently, about 3 miles from the Lleras area. Three overweight 50 something guys with their "girlfriends". All trying to shout over each other in broken Spanish, English and Spanglish about inane topics that they were mostly wrong about, followed by loud laughter. The girls were busy texting god knows who and taking selfies and generally looking bored. All of their tits were being advertised via the clothes they wore, no one else in the restaurant was dressed like them. One of the girls was at most 19. One guy had on flip flops with black socks, a dirty tee shirt, and shorts. Another kept talking loudly with very yellow teeth and food in his mouth and food on his shirt. The third was holding himself up as an expert on all things Medellin, Loudly. All three of them were unattractive and fat. The tables around them were all looking and then covering their mouths while they whispered to each other and shook their heads and fingers. The kids at these tables were told to not look in the direction of the gringo table. The fathers looked like they were being restrained from confrontation.

I wasn't just embarrassed to be an american, I was embarrassed to be a human.

MedellinGringo, I don't know you but I stated earlier in this thread self awareness is important in this game. Maybe you should just stop and think about this blending in thing, it really is a ridiculous. Maybe you are like me and know how to look and behave like a human in a country where you are a foreigner and have bothered to learn local customs and language, but you are still an obvious foreigner sitting in a restaurant with a local girl that is out of your social strata and out of your age group. The people around you are tolerating and maybe even appreciating your presence because you aren't acting like a gorilla, not because you are blending. Stop kidding yourself.[/QUOTE]Well I never said I blend in. Or that I don't appear to be a gringo.

I did say that if Colombianos are thinking the girl that is with you is a prepago. It is most likely the gringos fault and not the girls. I don't see many prepagos that dress or act in any particular way that would indicate they are a prostitute. If it weren't for the more obvious monger sitting next to her.

And for the few that would rather talk about me instead of the general discussion of what might lead Colombianos to think someone is a monger. I will say that I don't feel like Colombianos are the least bit offended when they see me out on a date.

First of all I don't think that the women I date are what most Colombianos would think of as a prepago. They are for the most part not surgically enhanced and a bit to thin to be considered top notch by most Colombianos. Although I have noticed that really thin women do better in Medellin than other parts of Colombia. Secondly I'm not so old or unattractive looking that it isn't a possibility that I couldn't date or attract the same quality of women by putting myself out there as a guy looking for a serious relationship. Not all women are looking for a P4 P type relationship with gringos.

Having said that I'm sure some Paisas probably do suspect that I'm a monger when I out with a girl,,, whether or not she is actually a prepago or just some chick I met on ColombianCupid who has no interest in P4 P.

Hello,

I wonder how service compares in Colombia / Medellin compared to other mongering locales.

A guy I met in Germany told me that BBBJ is not standard in Colombia but most girls will do it for a small tip, is that right?

Are many of the girls willing to provide anal? I don't expect this to be as prevalent as Brazil, but was wondering if it is fairly was to get or non existent like in the Czech Republic.

Thanks.

You see the actors and reporters on TV. They all look like Europeans indicating that Colombians want to believe that they are like them. Girls in Colombia always strive to look white and they like guys with white skin (who are not fat). I have heard that many white people in the USA Possess tiny portion of African and / or native American' blood, but they do not know and do not want to know about it. I am not supporting or rejecting this account, though.

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1818209]The Colombian native population has been so watered down and disbursed, along with a large percentage of the population self identifying with the Spanish, that I think many are indeed ignorant of the Indian in their heritage. Certain areas of Colombia have much more Indian influence like Cali and Cartagena, and also many of the poor regions and areas most of us don't go. Usually the native Indian blood is at least several generations old, and do really any of us know our entire genetic history outside of those of us who have sent off our DNA? (I haven't and don't know).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1818449]You see the actors and reporters on TV. They all look like Europeans indicating that Colombians want to believe that they are like them. Girls in Colombia always strive to look white and they like guys with white skin (who are not fat). I have heard that many white people in the USA Possess tiny portion of African and / or native American' blood, but they do not know and do not want to know about it. I am not supporting or rejecting this account, though..[/QUOTE]I was disagreeing with what you said till after I saw miss Universe pageant they were calling Steve Harvey on twitter all types of and-words ape, subhuman, after he misread the cue card and crowned Miss Colombia as the wrong Miss Universe.

Hi Guys,

No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?

I have a feeling it is hard.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1818566]Hi Guys,

No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?

I have a feeling it is hard.[/QUOTE]These are real girls and a lot depends on you. You asked before about an up charge for BBBJ. That is a 'thing' only in the casas, and is how those poor girls have figured out how to hustle up about a couple hundred extra pesos a day. As for what they will or won't do, be advised that as a whole paisas are proud of their hygiene and disgusted by those with less hygiene than them so as it is said YMMV as to what you can accomplish here.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1818566]Hi Guys,

No one answered, so I will ask again hoping for an answer. Is it really hard to get providers to provide anal sex in Colombia or is it relatively easy like Brazil?

I have a feeling it is hard.[/QUOTE]I would like to help you but I don't know the answer as I have never asked a provider for anal sex.

I have had a few that initiated anal sex without me asking for it. So out of all the chicks I banged including regular women. I would say less than 5% actually initiated anal sex.

And the sample size is well over a hundred. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1818578]These are real girls and a lot depends on you. You asked before about an up charge for BBBJ. That is a 'thing' only in the casas, and is how those poor girls have figured out how to hustle up about a couple hundred extra pesos a day. As for what they will or won't do, be advised that as a whole paisas are proud of their hygiene and disgusted by those with less hygiene than them so as it is said YMMV as to what you can accomplish here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer, so I gather they don't have hard limits against anal. Do you know if many girls are willing to provide it if you are courteous and clean, in some locales girls are extremely reluctant to do it no matter what.

YMMV. If you are decent looking, have good hygiene, can speak a bit of Spanish, maybe you'll get your wish. But I don't really ask for anal either, and most do not provide it and will not consider it. You have a better chance of it if you can get with a girl you have chemistry with. Money talks but that doesn't mean they will be happy to let you stick it in her ass. If you want a destination where good looking women are up for anal, and you might not even need to ask then go with Buenos Aires. I'd say most of the chicas I have had there will be OK with anal. Medellin and Colombia in general, different story.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1818783]Thanks for the answer, so I gather they don't have hard limits against anal. Do you know if many girls are willing to provide it if you are courteous and clean, in some locales girls are extremely reluctant to do it no matter what.[/QUOTE]

Why not just ask the girl before you take her instead of badgering the board on whether a puta who you have yet to even choose will allow anal? Asking guys on the board will not get you anywhere. We may say sure there is no problem with it then you get there and every girl you choose refuses. As they said, YMMV.