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Right Nedski,
I think they rather naively don't realise the depth of this industry in the economy; sure it should be regulated, sure safe sex should be encouraged, but to ban it is to make it dangerous and push it further into the clutches of gangsters.
And all this is happening at a time when the government is lowering interest rates to encourage consumer spending!! This ban will leave valuable money in the banks of Korean and western consumers of these services, and stop the girls spending their hard-on earned cash in the department stores!
Sanctimonious *******es.
And, others know more than me, but I reckon the authorities have caught on to this board and are reading it. One service recommended here, I'd love to visit, but daren't take the chance. FRIENDS is far from any of the RLD's and I don't reckon the place would have been raided had it not been so popular with posters here. So, I'd like to echo the previous poster in a hope that good reports are posted via PM to people like poor old Mickey Race!
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Various Updates:
Room Salons - At least the place I visited in Kangnam the second round was not offered
Outcall - Apperas to be ok, there are several that are listed in the English version of the Korean Herald that are offering service. I did notice there were several days in a row that they did not even advertise. They are now back in the newspaper and when I called they offered service but I was too far out of Seoul for them to provide
Ipaywon - I did vist Starbucks on the hill and had a girl named Gina who had a great body, but her attitude sucked. I hate it when you conclude the deal with payment and then the sexy attidude goes away. It all becomes cold and mechanical. Service was offered both in the club or in a room very close by. I chose the room close by for 170,000 Won for everything. She also did mention that the ban is not really affecting Ipaywon, as she put it they are leaving the foreignors alone. Not sure if this it true. Maybe they are concerned if the GI's don't get their rocks off they will become unruly?
Massage Places - At least the one I visited in Miguem Satation (Bundang), for those of you interested PM me and I will give directions. 160,000 for full service plus a 20K service charge for foreignors ( I hate that). Nice hottub with naked girl, nice massge then the final act. Nothing great, in fact I didn't come with the first girl, and was willing to pay for another one but the Mamasan refused saying she only had a few girls and that I already wore out one of them (complaining of size) so I had to go home and do the wife! I don't understand this size complaint, I am by no means John Holmes, and most other Asian girls do not complain. Koreans for some reason seem to complain about this most
Anyway that's all I got for now.
Good Luck!
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Real shame they're cracking down. It's so.. wrong.
Hundreds of the working girls are protesting.
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Ultimately, this is a situation not unlike prohibition of alcohol or drugs.
it gets pushed down to the underground, further victimizing the girls - as they lack access to proper medical care and check-ups, protection against violence, etc.
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Ranco,
you should have read my report on Finkle, yes there are several Starbucks and I was looking for Finkle for an hour or so until I decided to take a walk and found the 2ns Starbucks.
At Finkle I had such a great experience, maybe the best in Asia with a nice looking girlfriend. I wish she could speak some English to have diner and stay over night at my hotel.
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I recently visited O2 (thanks to Ranco's post) and had a very nice time. I had a little trouble finding it at first so I thought I'd try to give back something to the forum and clear up the directions a little bit.
You want to go out towards the old electronics shopping mall from the Yong San station. The store Ranco mentioned is ETLand. It's the one with the big poster of Gundam (a giant robot). At first, I thought he was talking about the new E-mart that just opened, so I went towards the wrong side.
Basically get out of the old electronics shopping mall (the one where you take the long catwalk to) and walk towards ETLand. Walk along the building and it'll eventually turn into a movie theatre. At the end of the block, go a little further and you'll see the orange sign for O2.
160,000 won and I thought the service was awesome (it was my first massage place so I can't compare to any other place). I asked the girl about the crackdown, and she didn't seem to be worried at all.
Even one of the mamasan taking the money was pretty attractive. I'm Korean-American so getting serviced was easy. I was planning to ask if they accepted foreigners but slipped my mind while getting serviced, sorry.
Leaving SK pretty soon, and I'd like to thank all the contributors for making my stay a little more enjoyable. Enjoy your time here everyone.
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The Situation in Seoul is quite dismal at best.
Except Outcalls and Itaewon, it's really really gloomy. Few madams I talked with, they all refuse to meddle any FS, and interestingly enough, even the girls were afraid of this crackdown - it's supposed to "free" them. Damm !
The government is well aware of the current situation, and the madams are waiting for the 20th of this month - the 4 weeks from when the first crackdown starts - where the grip would be loosen.
Sad, I have to say.
Play Thing
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Mickey
I think you overestimate the intelligence of the average copper in Korea. Many of them are just doing their National Service (as an alternative to military) and in three years, I couldn't find one who could even SPEAK English, let alone read and understand it (and I'm not saying that is a BAD thing - it's just a fact!) I've been inside police stations, too.
FRIENDS is known to the police, who, periodically "raid" the place, as they do other massage "clinics". This happens when other operators make bogus complaints, or when unsavoury clients (usually drunks) moan to the nearest cop to be found.
The matter is usually well catered for, by the warning systems in place, though - as in ALL these places - occasionally, the proprietor and/or the girls have to take a trip "downtown" for questioning.
The girls are usually asked things like "What do you do?" (Answer: "Only massage." Question: "What about hand play?" (Answer: "No, never.")
A check of the id card or driver's licence is made to confirm that the girls are of age and that is that!
Funnily enough, I am in Australia, now. Yesterday, an ad appeared in the adult section of our paper: "A Korean Doll" massage...I called the number and spoke some Korean - the girl didn't have a clue! As far as I could tell from her accent, she is probably Chinese!
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Hope you're right HoMan; but I wonder if it wouldn't be worthwhile for people to write their report and then invite people to PM them if they want directions, as one poster has done here. It's up to them I suppose, but the way Gonad Man came so close to getting his arse kicked out of the country had he had a hard-on, well, still makes me a little nervous to visit anywhere posted here.
Shame because one place mentioned recently sounds fantastic.
EastTech, I've been with Gina and had a completely different experience, she was funny, witty, service oriented. I think you might have got her on a bad day. Nontheless she has an absolutely fabulous body, just gorgeous tits.
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Ho Man,
You say it appeared in your paper, what paper is that?
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seems to be really bad in Korea. Even the Financial Times reports on it...
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/662b9d06-1cb5-11d9-8d72-00000e2511c8.html
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For those of you reporting that the crackdown hasn't affected the hill, look again. Almost all the clubs at the top of the hill were closed tonight to include the infamous Fantasy. My W50,000.00 BJ girl who lives at the top of the hill area was even afraid to step out of her little hooch, said the Cops were out in full effect tonight. We set up a meeting for later at a sleazy motel, but I chickened out because it didn't feel right out there.
Yikes! could it be that you can get more action in South (Bible Beltway) Carolina than in Korea, Its scary.
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Date?
are you looking for a date in seoul?
I know a girl who is a real fun date.
she is fun, sexy, slim and intelligent
great for dates, fuctions etc..
no stress, no bs, real fun and just wants to have a fun time.
wine, dine etc..
you feeling loney? then give an email, ill hook you up with her.
she is very sexy..
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East Tech:
"the Mercury" - as I said, from her voice and accent, I don't believe she is Korean - or it could be that she couldn'tunderstand even the simplest of Korean phrases on the phone!