2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]This is a brief update to a report I did on a visit in 2005 to the Beer Garden (formerly known as the Bier Garten) at Sukhumvit Soi 7. A lot has changed outwardly. The bar had shed its seedy tropical look thanks to a total make-over to become a comfortable bar-restaurant complex. It still functions as a hook-up point for horny male tourists and willing Thai ladies, but even on the meat-market front, there were subtle changes. Keep in mind my latest observations are based on four short visits spread over two days in early November, 2006. The earliest visit was at 2.p.m., the latest around 7 p.m.

I can't say the BG has changed at all...the makeover is pretty darn superficial. It does look a tad less "sleazy," but it is still too hot, not enough seats, and the failure of the staff to do anything promotion-wise to get ladies into the aircon area upstairs means that that spot is now going on x months without a single customer ever sitting there. I have always found day quality to be lower than night, and as a regular, think that you get way more office or department store gals who rarely show coming in only at night, so a chance for the new unjaded talent...met 2 Rangsit Uni gals in there the other night whom I'd never seen before....BG just varies all the time everyday. Weekends or end of the month, when rent is due, are supposed to be hopping, but one might go in on Fri the 30th and find the selection atrocious. Or show up mid week mid month and for some reason, it is full of stunners...a lot of expats go to drink at the BG as it is a nice no hassle place full of women with hands down the cheapest prices in the area (a chang in the Thermae has now gone up to 90 baht in the space of less than 3 months), whereas the BG is still at 65 after a price hike..there are no BF's to be paid, and the going rate is 1000 baht for a gal..if you are paying more, you do not live in Bkk nor are you willing to trust your instincts and be patient. It seems that this has been the quietest tourist November I've ever seen in the BG, and i think that quality and quantity has been excellent

I land in the morgning and fligth out again at about 21:00. I was told that the taxi time can be upto 2hour in rushours. The customen is fast, 30min af lande I was sitting in a taxi.

I had a day BKK. Biergarden open at 10:00 or early, I pick a girl(7/10) at about 12:00, nice but not that great, special in the bed the action was not that good. Later I was on EDEN, I only find 1 rearly nice(8/10), so I did it with only her. She was realy into it, her task was to please me, so 2 pop.

I can only compare BKK and Pattaja in the time span 8:00- 17:00, and I will say that there is more buttiful girls in Pattaja, or atleast it easy to find some nice girls in Pattaja in the daytime.

As most of you are aware the tax goes up tp 700bht from 500bht.

I have heard that the nex tax will be included in your air fair ticket.

Is this correct?

Hi

I have explored Phuket & Pattaya but not go around to exploring Bangkok.

Did stay in a Bangkok hotel for a night with a Thai girl i met in England but i have no idea where it is or where I went.

Where are the best places to go and have a good/great time and which hotels are near to these places. I am happy with cheap and cheerful as long as it has aircon and is girl friendly.

Thanks

Well shit, I'm cross posting, but really this is about Bangkok and the Philippines, so gotta do it. I've been reading and posting since WSG was .org back in 1996, so my member name changed, my posts look low, but maybe some slack will be cut.
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Been a long time since I did any kind of real “report”.

Have spent 12 of last 28 months in Cebu. ALL other months in USA.

For 3 weeks I've escaped to LOS and found that the ol' "boring" discussion of thai compared to Phil woman is actually NOT boring and is interesting.

They are truly a different breed. And their backyards are very different places.

True, in the Phils I'm JUST in cebu, having never stepped foot in a bar in Manila or AC. Therefor, Cebu is a puddle and as I write here from Bangkok, well it is certainly an ocean.

Prices: The costs are about 2,150 B here ST and in Cebu it’s about the same price for most places. The dollar is about 1::35 here and 1::50 in Cebu. I discuss performance and experience below, but the sheer amount of choice here makes the deal much better then the numbers sound. On some nights in Cebu it’s a lot of work to find someone that’s an 8+ or 9. Here it should be do-able any night at Nana or Soi Cowboy. You can cherry pick easier (no pun intended). And to me, Cherry picking is what sets a good monger apart from a great one. Only problem is that the beers and especially the ladies drinks really add up here. I think they are a good ½ or even 2X more here. If in Manila is prob more similar for all prices. In AC, Bangkok must be easy 2X more for everything monger related.

I've stayed at a couple places here. And I did a lot of research. I want too give a huge thumbs up to "Drop Inn" on Soi 30 Suk. It’s only 1-2 years old and rocks for the money. This place is about 23 USD, within a long stone’s throw (5 minute walk) of Soi Cowboy and a quick hop on the skytrain to Nana. It's a 3 star hotel with a lot of class, FREE wireless and land-line access, etc.

After boning countless women in Cebu, LOS is such a massive breath of fresh air. And the biggest difference I see here is one that others don't bring up as much. I think IF you are the type that girls can feel that special GF feeling for, this is in some ways better. That is harder to find here! In Cebu and the Phils in general all the girls want a damn ticket to the USA and it is on there mind 24/7. They are so into the heaven that is the US (Heaven compared to life in a shack, hell in ways they don’t know about) that they really don't care if the person they are with is a corpse.

Here I don't see that as much. The worship of the USA is missing and what a relief! This country has a lot to be proud of. They have a religion that may have even "got it right" better then we have in US and Europe. I am also sick of the worship of the overseas worker that is found in Phils. What a dumb idea for the head of a country to encourage all best and brightest to go away…especially at a time when outsourcing can make the Phils stronger in a lot of ways if they play that game 110% now.

I am on the verge of middle age so it’s not as easy to find the GF experience here as it was on the other 4 visits I did here, all of which were in my late 20s and early/mid 30s. I've been with 4 girls here. 2 of the 4 were very good in bed but it was not a true GF "I like it too" experience. I hate if girls are faking it, and I'm damn good at knowing at least to some extent. One of those was at a message place, so that’s to be expected. She certainly did her job well. No complaints about that.

But the 2 that stepped out of there "job" while with me, wow, they had passion that is just not the same as Phil girls. I think they are more seductive. They are in less of a rush, which I like. Most, not all, girls in the Phils have that Latin passion which says "let's fuck like jack-hammers" quick, quick. But the 2 here that were into it...wow, really slow and seductive sex that went on and on and on. Nothing wrong with the “faster, quicker, harder”, but for me I like it slow and very long building up to a bigger bang.

I also learned, after 4 other trips to LOS, that beer bars may be better than dance bars if you’re looking for what I mention above. A lot of the girls dancing that are new speak NO English. For me that's a turn-off.

My theory has always been if you want to be with someone who you pay but who actually enjoys it because you enjoy if they do...well it should not be someone in the biz for too long.

So the beer bars...they have to talk! The first of the 2 that were true GF experiences (and who I only did on one night) spoke zero English and I was her first white guy. But, she had been fucking for money with Thai guys previously. What a great attitude and just so FUN.

Second girl was one of the best fucks I've had in 2 years. Been with her 2 nights, but now I'm off for another location. She spoke very, very little but was a beer bar girl from Nana (3 weeks) and soi one (3 months), so had to learn Eng fast. She had a real job in a retail store prior…nice to be with someone that’s finished high school and knows things like “Africa is a continent, not a country”.

She was going to come with me down south to beaches, but it came out on the second night with her (which was free, although I gave her my dress shirt she’d worn to sleep the night prior) that a dude from Germany sent her 1000 euro, emails and calls her every day, and claims he’s coming for her and will be getting her a visa. Chump.

She quit her bar the second night I went with her…most or entirely because she had 1000 euro given to her 2 weeks prior by the German guys friend who delivered it to her in person, wrapped up, for her to open in front of all her co-workers at the bar… so she was actually no longer a bar girl my second night with her (she went AWOL).

He was with her ONE night. He then paid her like 100 Euro for that, had her drive to the airport with her and thinks he knows her because of all this and 2 weeks of emails and phone chats even though her English is almost nothing at this point. But, I don’t blame her for being afraid to go to a southern beach with me. She’s afraid he’ll dump the whole idea, and seems he is a decent catch (sucker might be a better word although she’s not the type to fuck him over in a nasty way…she BELIEVES 2 people can meet this way), as she says he treats her well and is in his 30s (she’s 22).

Guess that's part 1. Not sure what thread to put this/these in, but will do a part two from next destination if the action and the response from anyone warrants it.

[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]As most of you are aware the tax goes up tp 700bht from 500bht.

I have heard that the nex tax will be included in your air fair ticket.

Is this correct?[/QUOTE]

Correct, new airline tickets issue after this year will be one all inclusive fare that will include the departure tax. Its a good thing as alot of people usually forgets the tax, uses up all the bahts (tax must be paid in bahts ONLY), find exchange changers at last minute before being let out of country. A pain for anyone in a rush to leave.


PT

Wanderluster.
Nice story, keep it up. This board doesn't comment much, so if you don't get much feedback, it doesn't mean your story isn't appreciated.
let's hear some more, and if you have pics, well.... so much the better.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Wanderluster.
Nice story, keep it up. This board doesn't comment much, so if you don't get much feedback, it doesn't mean your story isn't appreciated.
let's hear some more, and if you have pics, well.... so much the better.[/QUOTE]I agree. This is one of the most interesting and useful posts in ages. Notice it didn't make Jackson's sugestion for a Report of Distinction - maybe because it isn't the same boring shit, which seems to be his criteria.

I've gone ahead and posted it, anyway.

Wanderluster, please report more if you can. It's nice to have a different perspective.

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Hi OTH,

Any Forum Member may post a link to any report that they believe qualifies as a Report of Distinction.

As I moderate the Regular Member's reports, I try to identify and tag the reports that I believe qualify as RODs. However, I don't moderate the Senior Member's reports, so I'm not in a position to suggest which of their reports should also be listed as ROD, and thus I rely on the membership to help and identify these reports.

In other words, identifying and tagging ROD is everybody's job, not just mine.

The primary reason I try to indentify some ROD's myself is to give other members some idea of what qualifies as a ROD.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

It's been a long time since i've ventured into town, too much work, and it really is more of a chore than anything, but this time i was dragged kicking and screaming !

We hit Soi Cowboy around 8pm and trawled some bars, IMO Soi Cowboy is the place of choice for those that like more than a look in the bar, Soi Cowboy has a number of 'touching' bars, to my knowledge there are NONE in Nana.

Toy Boy is one such 'touchy' bar, and it was unusually quiet, we sat and enjoyed our beers, the music was very quiet, and actually perfect for chatting to friends whilst soaking it in, obviously there were a mirage of girls all eager to 'take care of him' but as i always do in these bars, i took a slow look around at the offerings and invited 2 to join me for a drink, the others will always try for 1 cola, but i stick to my guns in a smiley way and it has never failed, whilst the girls aim here is to whip your boy out as quickly as possible, pull it roughly for as little as possible and down as many colas and tequillas in the process, it doesn't HAVE to be that way. The girls here always seem to give good head and neck massages, and i decided to enjoy that whilst my freind decided to do an 'Opebo' with the girl bent over the bar, he is a little reckless, but it was his choice, i reminded him of where we were, but he was concentrating on things other than my voice. I took another look around the bar, and none of the girls in there were shocked or surprised at these actions. Shortly after he had 'finished' we paid up and left, my bill was 1 beer and 2 lady drinks, anyone complaining or warning of these bars as rip offs where you are fleeced for drinks, simply does not understand how they work. Even if i do partake in the touchy extras, i always explain to the girls, that its a one cola each show and 200 baht each tip, i explain they can have it, or they can have half of it with some flat coke, it's always met with smiles and good action.

We left Toy Boy and headed straight into AfterSkool. Afterskool, for those that don’t know, has a naughty boys corner at the back of the bar, its where you can go for a HJ or BBJ, it used to be a tip as you go, up to you kind of place, but on this visit I was told prices had been standardized, a HJ was 300 baht and a BBJ was 700 baht, that would be plus the colas and tequilas, there were some nice looking girls, but I still hadn’t reached choosing time, so I passed. There is however a stunning girl who works here, in anyones opinion she would be amazing to look at, and she is 20yrs old, she does not do the touchy stuff in the bar, she wears Jeans and blouse and is amazing……until you speak to her, she speaks very good English and is basically a ‘I’m stunning and I know it’ girl, when I indicated I was interested, she explained it was 3,000 baht ST, no BJ, just FS, but before we could go she needed to check my size ! If I am too big, she won’t go ! Well, I know that won’t be a problem, and I was right, but why would I go ? In my opinion she will be an expensive starfish, I’d like to hear from any brothers who have tried her.

After Toy Boy we went into Sharks Bar, this is not a ‘touchie’ bar, there were some really good lookers on the poles in here, and even upstairs where there are 2 pool tables and a small go-go area.

Baccara bar was busy upstairs and downstairs, but I always find the girls to be very unapproachable, don’t know why, just never feel any want to chat with them, good lookers though.

Now I was ready to choose we moved across the street to Jungle Jims, this bar is owned by the same people as Toy Boy, Moonshines and a couple of others that escape me, all are ‘touchie’ bars, but JJ is very aggressive, it’s a long narrow bar, and there were at least 30 girls all waiting for a victim. After the usual sitting down, choosing 2, and getting drinks they hung around for a while, still trying to get the old boy out, or get a cola out of us, but they soon got the gist, not by us saying anything, but simply by paying lots of attention to the 4 we had with us.

I like these bars, because USUALLY, anal is on offer, it’s not as guaranteed as left of the yellow line, but it is very easy to find, I indicated to my 2 that it was time to go upstairs to the ST room, so we paid bar, 400 baht, paid for the room, 250 baht, and agreed 1,000 baht to each girl for 2 shots including anal and a little lesbian action.

The events in the room were good, both girls lived up to their end, the lesbian consisted of a nice 69 whilst I slipped in and out of ones arse, BBBJ, plenty of DFK, all in all a good session with 2 shots as promised and no request for any other monies. All in all I’d say around 45 minutes to an hour.

After that it was into the Offshore Bar, for sausages and chips and then a cab ride home. Not such a bad night after all.

[quote=meaty]whilst my freind decided to do an 'opebo' with the girl bent over the bar.[/quote]

do an 'o****'???? roflmao. that might be his true "claim to fame" or perhaps more like 'infamy' on this board.

the only thing is, toy bar would be way out of o****'s price range (and league, quite frankly).

very nice report.

i wonder why jackson didn't recommend it for report of distinction status. do you think it's because you're not a green-horn, newbie and therefore don't have that "gee-whiz" factor? however, it's a much more useful and informative report than some newbie's first-time on cowboy where inevitably he'd be the guy paying too much and getting the "shaft" (pun intended - lol) at toy or some other bar. you explain in clear terms how to act and avoid that - much more useful information.

re: baccara
you didn't get any attention paid to you, as is generally the case for every farang because you aren't japanese and ready for 2-3-4. i'm five minutes away and go in there frequetly, just for a drink and a look. but, i know better than to expect more. as a friend of mine 'tastelessly' put it, "it's like hiroshima never happened!" (you had to be there. it was quite funny in context.)

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
I wonder why Jackson didn't recommend it for Report of Distinction status. Do you think it's because you're not a green-horn, newbie and therefore don't have that "gee-whiz" factor?[/quote]I suggest it is because Mr. J does not vet Sr. Member reports. Seriously doubt he has seen it.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]I suggest it is because Mr. J does not vet Sr. Member reports. Seriously doubt he has seen it.[/QUOTE]

That's a real possibility. But, I still wonder why he promotes almost every lengthy newbie post; good, bad or indifferent to a Report of Distinction, especially since many of them are cookie cutter reports - same experiences at the same places.

There's nothing wrong with these posts and I'm sure they provide other newbies useful information. I just question why they deserve any special status, except in the extremely rare circumstances that there's actually something new and different reported.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]..........COWBOY

Very nice report.

I wonder why Jackson didn't recommend it for Report of Distinction status. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the compliments on my penile working vacation report. Funny coincidence here! Last night after I wrote that, I was out and about and realized I've been at the bloody hotel for 5 days and soi cowboy is 3 mnutes away and in 4 or 5 visits to BKK I didn't THINK i'd ever been to cowboy. So I was out and about, looked at the map at the sky train, stopped by and then proceeded to shit my pants.

Never had seen it. It's fucking huge...but what is funny is by chance there is now as I log in to do a SEARCH about the area to go out in FIVE minutes, a fantastic report. So I'm outa here and over to Cowboy. Should have arranged to meet some of you. Can't believe I never went over their in the past.

Tomorrow I'm flying to Phuket, so I will report on both here and there...I am a newbie in some ways to Thailand given that it's been 4 or 5 years, but yes I've spent a good deal of time here in my early 30s/late 20s.

Guys, all regular posts get "checked" before being posted. If it is lenghty, pretty much regardless of content, or value, it gets suggested for ROD. However a good post, informative, interesting, funny, written by a senior member doesn't get seen prior to being posted.
a senior member could write a "Penthouse" type of report, give phone numbers, locations, make it fun, and hilarious, and it would not make it to ROD suggestion status.

kind of a double edge sword

Anyway, no big deal, there are too many RODs, which really don't belong there.

Agreed 1Ball, but the problem is, though I understand Mr.J´s postion (any new member who posts something beyond "Give me a contact number!" should be encouraged.)

They also pay him. Unlike freeloading Sr. members like us. ;)

Dilution is the problem. At first the ROD´s were a great way to get the feel of an area, now you have to sift the wheat from the chaff.

At the end of the day, not worth worrying about IMHO.