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Ah. A transposition of that one point
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3018102]We have known this since forever; inflows of Immigrants at the time of Great Repub Economic Disasters contribute mightily to a rapid and strong recovery, adds nothing to the rate of inflation and as an added bonus does not increase the violent crime rate one iota:
[B]Declining immigration weighs on GDP growth, with little impact on inflation.
July 8, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2025/0708[/URL]
Virtually every expert prognostication for slower economic growth, lower jobs creation and higher inflation rates under Trump's economic policies includes his "closing the borders" and thereby dramatically reducing authorized and unauthorized immigration as an important reason for it.
And, sure enough, it has unavoidably arrived in the BLS numbers as supervised by none other than a Trump appointee:
[B]US labor market cracks widen as job growth hits stall speed.
Aug. 2, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-labor-market-cracks-widen-job-growth-hits-stall-speed-2025-08-01/[/URL]
[B]Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics after weaker-than-expected jobs figures slam markets.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/01/trump-erika-mcentarfer-jobs-report-fired.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]
Oh well.
BTW, in my rental property area of Southern California, Zillow has indeed shown resale values drop a few percentage points under Trump, but my rent rates have increased at the same time..[/QUOTE]I see now that point was inadvertently transposed:
[QUOTE]However, that same high Trump Mortgage Loan rate problem prevents many more people in need of housing to rent instead of buy.[/QUOTE]Should have been: However, that same high Trump Mortgage Loan rate problem prevents many more people in need of housing [B] from buying and must rent instead.[/B].
The point being Trump's classic Repub crap governance has been so astonishingly crappy this time around that he started making it much harder for people to achieve the American Dream of owning their own home by jacking up Mortgage Loan rates as early as late last year with his constant blithering blather about high tariff taxes he was anxious to impose on the USA for imported items from all around the world even before he took his Lie of Office in January.
Consequently, Zillow does indeed show property values declining and stealing money from American homeowners already. But rents in my rental property area of Southern California have most decidedly not declined but have increased notably instead. Which naturally happens when crappy Repub governance like Trump's jacks up Mortgage Loan rates for no reason at all but that he just gets a kick out of shitting on America and the American people.
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Nope. You Are 100% Wrong Again and As Usual:
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3018244]Wrong! When you figure in costs to health care and education, illegal immigrants were a net cost. The USA has a formula for how many people to let in. There is a long waiting list of people to get in and if you want to adjust that number upwards, you can, and few IMO would object to that.
What douches like you do not get is that there is one spouse in the USA here legally and he or she has to wait upwards of three years to get their spouse into the country if they are a legal immigrant. It is 2 years for American citizens. For a sibling, that wait is 17 years! Instead of speeding up that time and letting someone in who has a support system in place so they are not a burden on health and education, Biden opened the border up to everyone including criminals. Only a douche like you would argue that opening up the border so criminals could come in was good policy.
But hey, Dems should run on immigration again if they want to lose.
As for the "lady" in charge of the jobs report, she was gaming the system so badly for Biden that she should have been let go months ago. Wall Street even learned to adjust to the fake and later revised data.
And here we go again with the Alinsky method of accusing Republicans what Democrats are guilty of. Trump might game the numbers NPR says. Yeah, Biden had been doing that for years![/QUOTE]You did not include a link or quote or reference for that conclusion because there isn't a credible one anyway.
But I have one.
[B]AI Overview:[/B]
[QUOTE][b]Yes, numerous studies and analyses indicate that immigration is generally a net positive for the economy, even when considering the costs associated with social entitlements.[/b] Immigrants contribute to economic growth by filling labor shortages, driving innovation, and increasing overall spending. While some argue about the specific fiscal impact, the overall consensus is that immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits over their lifetimes.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
[B]Economic Growth:[/b]
Immigrants expand the labor force, leading to increased productivity and economic output. They also start businesses at higher rates than native-born individuals, further contributing to economic growth.
[B]Fiscal Impact:[/b]
While immigrants utilize social services and benefits, they also pay taxes and contribute to public finances. Studies often find that immigrants make a net positive contribution to government revenue over time, meaning they pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits.
[B]Labor Market:[/b]
Immigrants help alleviate labor shortages in various sectors, particularly in industries with high demand for skilled and unskilled workers. This can lead to increased production, lower prices for consumers, and greater overall economic efficiency, according to the OECD.
Innovation and Entrepreneurship:
Immigrants are often found to be more entrepreneurial than native-born individuals, driving innovation and creating new businesses that contribute to economic growth.
[B]Social Entitlements:[/b]
While some worry about the cost of social entitlements, studies show that immigrants generally contribute more to public finances than they receive in benefits over their working lives, according to the American Immigration Council. This is particularly true for those who are employed and pay taxes.
[B]Impact on Wages:[/b]
While some studies show that immigration can have a small negative impact on the wages of low-skilled workers, others find that the overall effect on wages is positive or negligible, according to Brookings.
[B]Long-term Perspective:[/b]
Looking at the long-term fiscal impact, immigrants are often found to be a net positive for the economy, contributing more in taxes over their lifetime than they receive in benefits.
[B]Specific Examples:[/b]
Research from organizations like the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) has analyzed the economic effects of immigration, finding positive impacts on GDP growth, government revenue, and overall economic activity. [/QUOTE]Repubs and MAGAs opened the Office of the Presidency to criminals who committed and were convicted of multiple Felonies.
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More on Biden's brilliant Immigration policies that saved America
Thank President Joe Biden's brilliant immigration policies for contributing mightily to the strongest and fastest recovery from the most recent Great Repub Economic Disaster:
[B]How immigrant workers in US have helped boost job growth and stave off a recession.
April 12, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/immigration-jobs-economy-wages-gdp-trump-biden-fbd1f2ec89e84fdfaf81d005054edad0[/URL]
[QUOTE]How has the economy managed to prosper, adding hundreds of thousands of jobs, month after month, at a time when the Federal Reserve has aggressively raised interest rates to fight inflation normally a recipe for a recession?
Increasingly, the answer appears to be immigrants whether living in the United States legally or not. The influx of foreign-born adults vastly raised the supply of available workers after a U.S. labor shortage had left many companies unable to fill jobs.
More workers filling more jobs and spending more money has helped drive economic growth and create still-more job openings. The availability of immigrant workers eased the pressure on companies to sharply raise wages and to then pass on their higher labor costs to their customers via higher prices that feed inflation. Though U.S. inflation remains elevated, it has plummeted from its levels of two years ago.[/QUOTE]You want to see what happens when a numbskull Repub does the exact opposite of what Biden did even though Biden was challenged with recovering America from the latest colossal Repub economic disaster and Trump was challenged with how to cheat on his golf score card while conjuring up ways to shit all over and reverse the Envy of the World Economy he inherited from Biden-Harris?
GDP Growth at an anemic 1. 2% so far this year.
Per month jobs creation so far this year under Trump at roughly 50% of what it was last year under Biden.
The rate of Inflation that had been decling through last year under Biden has been increasing for the past few months under Trump.
For starters.
Elections have consequences.
Well you could not have been more wrong about Scumbag Barry if you tried
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3018250]When you say "they" MDS, it is not just the Dems but the crooks in the "intelligence" agencies.
The reason I voted for Obama in 2008 was he seemed to have a hold on all the crooks in the business world and what they were doing. He had staffers who were smart on his campaign with new financial ideas. As soon as Barry got elected though, he threw those people to the back of the bus and hired on swamp creatures like Larry Summers who made $5 million working one day a week at a hedge fund.
And all the crooks who cost us so much money? Yeah, none went to jail. Even baby Bush put the Enron folks in jail.
Barry, the Bushes, Biden, and the Clintons all let the "intelligence" agencies and Wall Street do whatever the fuck they wanted. Then Trump came in and he had no pressure points. He had his own money. Oh, they had Stormy Daniels and the grab them buy the pussy tape, but in comparison, the intelligence agencies knew Biden was bought and paid for by Ukraine and China, and they had 10 X as much stuff IMO on Hunter than was in his laptop.
That is why he scares them so much. When it came to money, Trump was clean. Hell, they had to make up Russiagate, the fake rapes, the bullshit loan scandal, and the ridiculous criminal case to get him. Hell, they were so desperate they even IMO tried to have him killed.[/QUOTE]He was installed after.
He was thorougly vetted by the "deep state" they even passed over Scumbag Bubba for a 3rd and possibly 4th term.
Bubba won more delegates in the primaries and they handed it to Barry, why? And Over John McCain a Vietnam war hero in the general election as well, why?
Bubba was selected the same way with help from Perot over Bush former head of the CIA, why?
Bush a republican could never of did for the oligarchy what Bubba was able to with his white trash hillbilly schtick /1st black president, "I feel your pain".
He gutted Glass Steagal / installed the CCP into WTO and Most favored nation status, along with pushing thru NAFTA and gutting welfare for the poorest.
No republican could of did that.
Back to Scumbag Barry was was installed for the same reasons, leave the status quo alone and we will make you very rich.
Like Scumbag Bubba via the CF, Scumbag Barry left the Oligarchy alone and when the phone rang one day he even quickly crushed the 99% as quickly and dutifully as any house slave ever could.
Do you remember one of the first people hired after the election in 2008 if not thee 1st?
None other than Scumbag Rahm Emanuel.
But God is Great, in 2015 Our Lord and Savior surfaced and so did Scumbag Bubba for another shot at the White House.
And what did he run on? TPP.
ROTFLMMFAO.
We all know the rest!!
GOD is so Awesome!!
God Bless America!!
Yesterday was the 1st of the month, SS day
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3018115]You know I really think people's politics are out of hand with their personal lives. What I post on here in no way reflects me in a social setting. It used to be you did not talk politics or religion, but it is hard when it is not thrown in your face.
I was in a Target and they had these trans Halloween costumes with their dick hiding pouches and then they had like some of the ugliest, fat black women photos on the walls where attractive models used to be. It was like if you said that said these "models" were inappropriate, you were racist.
With Trump's election, there is a return of whites in ads. The backlash and reaction to the new ads with good looking white models in them has been hilarious. I know it is early and we need a break from the black beasts but I hope we see commercials with attractive models of other races as well.
[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leftists-lose-their-minds-over-dunkin-donuts-ad-featuring-white-model[/URL]
But the I-cannot-believe-this-is-real-article of the day from ZH is this:
TDS TikToker Asks For Tips On How To Be Unattractive To "MAGA Men".
[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tds-tiktoker-asks-tips-how-be-unattractive-maga-men-gets-simple-answer[/URL]
I guess if I were to think those hideously fat and ugly black women on the walls of Target were beautiful, I would be wondering what was and was not attractive as well.
Anyway, Spidy, maybe you can use the photo and tineye and figure out the name of this uh "woman". She is waiting for you, buddy![/QUOTE]I'm guessing he's busy burning up his check on $2 blk putas in the favelas of Rio, don't worry he will return here when his SS money runs out, unfortunately.
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Will Dictator Trump try to fire the Gallop employees now?
The American people have a very low Approval Rating for Democrats now because they are not stopping Dictator Trump and his America-hating MAGAs from destroying America and shitting all over the Envy of the World Economy the Biden-Harris Administration handed them.
Oh well.
Elections have consequences.
The American people will have the opportunity to start rectifying the 2024 electorate's now well and surely appreciated horrible mistake in about 10 months. If the country survives Trump and his MAGALoons that long:
[B]Democrats Regain Advantage in Party Affiliation.
Shift occurs even as Democratic Party favorability falls to record low.
July 31, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://news.gallup.com/poll/692978/democrats-regain-advantage-party-affiliation.aspx[/URL]
[QUOTE]Shifts in party affiliation away from the ruling party have occurred in the first year of most recent presidential administrations. The current movement in party preferences is primarily driven by a greater share of political independents saying they lean toward the Democratic Party.[/QUOTE]