Sosua Reports

Well I just got back from my first trip to Sosua. It took me some time to actually get infront of the pc and write this report but here it goes.

Well after reading the forum for about 3 months me and my brother decided to take the trip to DR. I have a friend who usually comes to sosua 3 times a year, and was always bragging about all the good times that he has here. So we booked Jetblue for 350 bucks round trip from NYC. Not bad I would have to say and the service is great. Well got to puerto plata around 3:30pm on Friday feb 8. It was great, nice and hot all green all over the place. I am very fluent in espanol so finding a taxi to take us to sosua was not a problem. Me and my bro for $20 not bad. The guy wanted 30 but I said no way and told him the most I would give him was 20, he agreed and off we went to one of my best trips ever.

We got to casa cayena in 10 mins and went to check in. Before going inside the hotel we saw this two hot looking girls across the street from the hotel and my bro was like. Yo lets goooo get some. I told him to hold on, that we had to get a room first. To my sorpresa there were no room available untill the next day. Man I was soooo pist so we had to take a walk to the next hotel, which was new gardens which was full too. Now I was getting real pisst off. So I took out my little map that I had printed out from here. And found my way to the europa plaza. Finally rooms, I was so happy to finally find a hotel with available rooms ($55 day). Got two rooms next to the jacuzzi which was great. The hotel it is not bad at all. I had heard some bad things about it but nooo it was cool. If you walk outside to the right there was a bar always with girls and nice people to have a presidente and a nice conversation. Across the street from the europa were the motoconchos always asking if you wanted to take a ride.

It was around 5PM and after having a nice chat with one of the guys that works in the hotel we decided to hit La Passion. Sosua is a small town very hard to get lost in and alot of friendly people always looking to help you out. So we walked to la passion, about 5 mins from the europa. Finally got there and saw all the girls jejejeje. Was given a menu with all the prices. This was some funny menu, but anyways. We was drinking with the senoritas. One presidente, 2, 3, 4. 10 wow now we was F. Ed up. I remember that I didn't have any food since the last night so we order some burgers from the place next door. I was already too drunk to do much. Well the girls kept talking how weird it was too see to guys that spoke spanish around all the gringos and eurpean men in the town. Some funny things they talked behind the one's that didn't speak spanish. But anyways back to the report. After checking out the girls I decided to take a shampoo massage with short semi dark girl whose name I recall was carmen. She was muy bonita, but was not happy about the shampoo massage cause it was gonna mess her well treated hair. Well we got in and wow was she hot. Gave me a nice massage, first with oil and after with shampoo. She rubbed her naked body against mine which felt great. I was soo drunk and happy that I didn't care. I was in heaven. Well it was time for the BBBJ. It was great. She kept on looking at me and said "papi dame toda tu leche" which means daddy give me all your milk. She did the best she could but I was way too drunk and just couldn't finish the act. She got very mad and said that this happens alot with guys that drink too much and that she always likes to make her clients happy. I didn't care that I didn't finish. The whole experience was great. Well we went back to the hotel. Got in the jacuzzi and had me a redbull. Relaxed untill 9pm and when to the room to get ready for clasicos.

After a cold shower I was ready for clasicos. Only thing was that I had this bad headache. So me and my bro went to look for a pharmacy. Walking around the town was great. All the girls would give you a look, some would call you to the bars, other would touch my hair and say things in spanish. I would just say Hi and walk away. I didn't want anything untill I saw clasicos. Well got to the pharmacy and got some advil. While buying water to take the advil 4 girls walk into the store and start the talk. One of them says to her cousen. Mira este papi me lo como yo. "look this papi I will eat". Sound better in spanish. Well she was talking about my bro. He really didn't like the girl but felt inlove with her cousen. She was hotttttt. Well he tries to get her to the hotel but she says that she needs to go home and take care of some things first, but she would be in clasicos later on. My bro says. "I can't wait" so we go to the hotel and drink a presidente on the bar next to the jacuzzi. The girl at the bar is very bonita and my bro starts making conversation. But this is another story for day 2 or 3. Well we finally walk to clasicos around 11pm. Sooooooooooo many girls wow. We sat at the bar downstairs and drink a presidente. Before I finish my first presidente two girl have already hit on me. I nicely say no thank you. So we see finally lot of girls going upstairs. So upstairs we go. You Have to pay 100 pesos to get in but you get a ticket for a free beer. More girls upstairs. So we make our ways and just check all the girls. Wow there are some many girls all shapes all sizes. My friend who recomended sousa said. "bro do not take any girls home for more than 1500 pesos. So I had this in the back of my mind. I guess he was talking about the 4's 5's and 6's cause the 7's to 10 always wanted 3000pesos to which I always said No gracias mami, too much. So my bro finally found his girl from the pharmacy. She wanted 3000 but said ok to 2000 but only for few hours. I could of had a girl for 2500 but she said she would go tell her sister she was leaving and I guess some other guy gave her the 3000 cause later I saw her with some 50 year old man. I am not old 28 years of age. 170pounds and not bad looking. So my guess is that this guy just gave her whatever she asked. So the club was closing and I didn't have me a girl. So I was about to go to the hotel alone but on the way down this girl who had been looking at me all night. Grabbed my hand and finally said something to me. I told her I was going back to my hotel. She says can I go with you. And I say so you want 3000 too. She says how much can you give me. So I think about this for a min and say 2000 TLN she looks happy hold my hand hand and says lets go papi.

Walking to the hotel I see my bro ahead of me with this great looking girl. And I wonder man I should of gave the first smoking girl which was a 10 in my book the 3000. But hell I had a ok girl and I didn't think I did so bad for my first night in sosua. The girl was great. Treated me like I was her man. Did everything and even let me take some pics. Not bad for my first night. Well am posting some pics hope you guys like it. Manana if I can I will post DAY 2.

Which was even better.

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[QUOTE=ScubaBum]OBTW, it’s all on video. [/QUOTE]Is the girl who picked your pocket the same one you got on video the night before? If so, is it possible to post a pic of her so we all know who should be avoided?

ScubaBum,

Do you have a photo of the thief?

Dear experts!

I have been in Santo Domingo before, but never in Sosua. What is the best hotel in that area? It should of course be girlfriendly and it should have axcess too internet. Wireless. Of course it is a stupid question. But still I have to ask.

[QUOTE=Mr Well]Dear experts!

I have been in Santo Domingo before, but never in Sosua. What is the best hotel in that area? It should of course be girlfriendly and it should have axcess too internet. Wireless. Of course it is a stupid question. But still I have to ask.[/QUOTE]

There is a thread specifically for Sosua hotels.
There is also a list of all the Sosua hotels on that thread.

TJ

[QUOTE=Cesar Luis]Well I just got back from my first trip to Sosua. It took me some time to actually get infront of the pc and write this report but here it goes.

Well after reading the forum for about 3 months me and my brother decided to take the trip to DR. I have a friend who usually comes to sosua 3 times a year, and was always bragging about all the good times that he has here. So we booked Jetblue for 350 bucks round trip from NYC. Not bad I would have to say and the service is great. Well got to puerto plata around 3:30pm on Friday feb 8. It was great, nice and hot all green all over the place. I am very fluent in espanol so finding a taxi to take us to sosua was not a problem. Me and my bro for $20 not bad. The guy wanted 30 but I said no way and told him the most I would give him was 20, he agreed and off we went to one of my best trips ever.

We got to casa cayena in 10 mins and went to check in. Before going inside the hotel we saw this two hot looking girls across the street from the hotel and my bro was like. Yo lets goooo get some. I told him to hold on, that we had to get a room first. To my sorpresa there were no room available untill the next day. Man I was soooo pist so we had to take a walk to the next hotel, which was new gardens which was full too. Now I was getting real pisst off. So I took out my little map that I had printed out from here. And found my way to the europa plaza. Finally rooms, I was so happy to finally find a hotel with available rooms ($55 day). Got two rooms next to the jacuzzi which was great. The hotel it is not bad at all. I had heard some bad things about it but nooo it was cool. If you walk outside to the right there was a bar always with girls and nice people to have a presidente and a nice conversation. Across the street from the europa were the motoconchos always asking if you wanted to take a ride.

It was around 5PM and after having a nice chat with one of the guys that works in the hotel we decided to hit La Passion. Sosua is a small town very hard to get lost in and alot of friendly people always looking to help you out. So we walked to la passion, about 5 mins from the europa. Finally got there and saw all the girls jejejeje. Was given a menu with all the prices. This was some funny menu, but anyways. We was drinking with the senoritas. One presidente, 2, 3, 4. 10 wow now we was F. Ed up. I remember that I didn't have any food since the last night so we order some burgers from the place next door. I was already too drunk to do much. Well the girls kept talking how weird it was too see to guys that spoke spanish around all the gringos and eurpean men in the town. Some funny things they talked behind the one's that didn't speak spanish. But anyways back to the report. After checking out the girls I decided to take a shampoo massage with short semi dark girl whose name I recall was carmen. She was muy bonita, but was not happy about the shampoo massage cause it was gonna mess her well treated hair. Well we got in and wow was she hot. Gave me a nice massage, first with oil and after with shampoo. She rubbed her naked body against mine which felt great. I was soo drunk and happy that I didn't care. I was in heaven. Well it was time for the BBBJ. It was great. She kept on looking at me and said "papi dame toda tu leche" which means daddy give me all your milk. She did the best she could but I was way too drunk and just couldn't finish the act. She got very mad and said that this happens alot with guys that drink too much and that she always likes to make her clients happy. I didn't care that I didn't finish. The whole experience was great. Well we went back to the hotel. Got in the jacuzzi and had me a redbull. Relaxed untill 9pm and when to the room to get ready for clasicos.

After a cold shower I was ready for clasicos. Only thing was that I had this bad headache. So me and my bro went to look for a pharmacy. Walking around the town was great. All the girls would give you a look, some would call you to the bars, other would touch my hair and say things in spanish. I would just say Hi and walk away. I didn't want anything untill I saw clasicos. Well got to the pharmacy and got some advil. While buying water to take the advil 4 girls walk into the store and start the talk. One of them says to her cousen. Mira este papi me lo como yo. "look this papi I will eat". Sound better in spanish. Well she was talking about my bro. He really didn't like the girl but felt inlove with her cousen. She was hotttttt. Well he tries to get her to the hotel but she says that she needs to go home and take care of some things first, but she would be in clasicos later on. My bro says. "I can't wait" so we go to the hotel and drink a presidente on the bar next to the jacuzzi. The girl at the bar is very bonita and my bro starts making conversation. But this is another story for day 2 or 3. Well we finally walk to clasicos around 11pm. Sooooooooooo many girls wow. We sat at the bar downstairs and drink a presidente. Before I finish my first presidente two girl have already hit on me. I nicely say no thank you. So we see finally lot of girls going upstairs. So upstairs we go. You Have to pay 100 pesos to get in but you get a ticket for a free beer. More girls upstairs. So we make our ways and just check all the girls. Wow there are some many girls all shapes all sizes. My friend who recomended sousa said. "bro do not take any girls home for more than 1500 pesos. So I had this in the back of my mind. I guess he was talking about the 4's 5's and 6's cause the 7's to 10 always wanted 3000pesos to which I always said No gracias mami, too much. So my bro finally found his girl from the pharmacy. She wanted 3000 but said ok to 2000 but only for few hours. I could of had a girl for 2500 but she said she would go tell her sister she was leaving and I guess some other guy gave her the 3000 cause later I saw her with some 50 year old man. I am not old 28 years of age. 170pounds and not bad looking. So my guess is that this guy just gave her whatever she asked. So the club was closing and I didn't have me a girl. So I was about to go to the hotel alone but on the way down this girl who had been looking at me all night. Grabbed my hand and finally said something to me. I told her I was going back to my hotel. She says can I go with you. And I say so you want 3000 too. She says how much can you give me. So I think about this for a min and say 2000 TLN she looks happy hold my hand hand and says lets go papi.

Walking to the hotel I see my bro ahead of me with this great looking girl. And I wonder man I should of gave the first smoking girl which was a 10 in my book the 3000. But hell I had a ok girl and I didn't think I did so bad for my first night in sosua. The girl was great. Treated me like I was her man. Did everything and even let me take some pics. Not bad for my first night. Well am posting some pics hope you guys like it. Manana if I can I will post DAY 2.

Which was even better.

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Great Report!!!!!!
I had a similar experience my first time there. But I stayed at BB's.
can't wait to go back. Maybe I'll stay in Sousua instead of BB's.

Mad Love,

I loved reading the reports that some guys post here and took great notes from all. I hope mine can give a few pointers. Some times I just sit at work and wait for someone to post report about their experience in other parts of the worl. ScubaBuM your report was great too. I am trying to find a way to scape my girlfriend and head to sosua again in June or July. I will post day two tonite if I get back from work early. I will be going to Lima Peru this Friday for 10 days. I hope I can bring more great stories too.

Cesar Luis,

Where did you guys find the girl in the first picture? She's f***ing hot!! What's her name?

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Cesar Luis,

Where did you guys find the girl in the first picture? She's f***ing hot!! What's her name?

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Just walking around sosua. I needed an advil from all the beer I had that day. My head was pounding so we took a walk. When we got to the pharmacy, 4 girls walked in and one of the girls is the girl in the pic. They just started talking in spanish about how much one of the girls liked my bro, but he only had eyes for the girl in the pic. I wouldn't blame him she is hot. Hotter in person. And a lovely girl to hang out with. We told her that we was going to clasicos later on that night. She met with us there. I can't remember her name but if you ever go to clasicos you might just bump into her. Please do not tell her you saw her pic in this website. She is very nice took me out to the dance floor when I was mad that I couldn't get one of those hot hot girl to go home with me for less than 2000 pesos. The next night I learned my lesson. Took a hot hot tamale hot to the bones girl with me to the hotel and I didn't care about the price. I will talk about her in Day 2 of my trip. I just got home. I bumped into an ex girlfriend of mine and we went for drinks so I don't feel in the mood to write. Sorry I can't remember her name. I didn't bang her. My bro did.

Later.

Well I was going to bed but for some reason I just can't sleep maybe is the coronas I had just an hour ago. But anyways back to day two of my trip to sosua.

Well I can't really sleep. Is 4AM in the morning and I just finish having sex for the 3rd time with the girl from my first night in sosua. She really took all the Leche out of me. She is very tired and goes to sleep. I am just laying there naked on the other side of the bed just thinking Damn I just had me some great sex. Well I am very unconfortable about having this girl I just met sleep in my bed so I just can't find a way for me to fall sleep. I am pretty sure alot of guys went through this. But anyways. I finally fall sleep around 6am.

Wake up at 9am I don't really feel like waking the girl up for a quicky. So I get up and go take a shower. When I come out she is awake and asks what time is it. I tell her that it is around 9am so she tell me that she needs to go and take care of I don't know what. I don't care cause I still have this bad hang over from the night before. I go to the safe take the 2000 pesos and say bye. She gives me a kiss and says hope to see you tonite.

Well it is around 11am I go and wake my brother up. Time to go get something to eat. So we finally get out of the hotel and it is around 12:30 pm. It is lunch time. We decide that is would be fun to eat at the beach. On the way out of the hotel we can see some girls getting out of the hotel with a face that said everthing. They got banged reallll bad. Well it is funny seeing all this girls getting on the motoconchos like they never slept the whole night. At this time there are girls already working the streets. It is amazing how this small town has all these hard working women. So I ask one of the guys that works in the hotel how do I get to the beach from there. He says just walk straight down the street like if you was going to clasicos. At the end you have to make a left and you will pass all those little places where they try to get you to buy stuff. Since am in california I just can't buy nothing that says Santo domingo, so I just say thank you but no and just keep on walking. This guys can really work you hard but all you have to say is "no gracias" and keep on walking. Don't stop if you stop they will think you might wanna buy something, and that is the end for you. So we manage to get to the beach. What A beautifull place. Finally find a decent place to eat I can't remember the number cause all this small bars and restaurants have numbers but it is around the 50's. We eat and the food is very good (600 pesos beer soda food and a nice conversation with the guy that serves).

It is about 2 or 3pm and we are ready to hit the water. Guy from the restaurant recomends his friend to rent the chairs and tent at the beach. All together around 900 pesos. Another guys comes over and asks if we want to go scubadiving. Why not. 25 dollars. So after the swim and the scuba we are tired and it is around 5pm drink some presidentes. Met a group of guys from the Bronx. Shared some tips and stories with one of the guys, he was cool. He told me this was his 40 trip to sosua, he has been coming here since the year 2000. Wow now that is what I call a real monger LOL. We are tired now and it around 6pm and we walk back to the hotel. Around this time lots of bars open, lots of girls around the streets. Some girls start calling "hey papi", we say thank you but we are tired. You walk and the girls are giving you the eye. Some are more agresive than others. But at the end we make it back to the hotel. We go into the jacuzzi and have a redbull. So my brother wants to go to La passion again. I really don't wanna go back but hey I can't leave my bro alone. So we take a shower and make our way to la passion. Same girls from the day before. Nothing new. We have two presidentes and out the door we go. We go back to the hotel and see girls go in with guys and girls coming out, some funny Sh. T. So we meet two brother from philly they here fishing if you know what I mean, but really fishing for Women. LOL. So we go to the bar next to the europa and have another presidente. One of the brothers tells me that she usually sits there and looks to find a girl before 8pm do the nasty and than goes and he parties all night. So it is around 8pm and we head back to the hotel to get ready for clasicos. Before I take a shower I call my GF to say whats up and everything is good here in california. Call from a Cell phone I rented in the hotel (600 pesos with lot of mins) last me all trip. Well my bro is sitting outside the hotel and he sees the girl from night before pass with another friend. He doesnt waste any time and off they go for a Bang. So I have nothing to do untill 10pm. I sit outside but none of the girl I see really turn me on. So I just sit outside and drink my presidente. Finally is 11pm and off we go to clasicos. Before entering clasicos we hit Latinos which is ok but way too many dominicanos and haitians. So off we go to clasicos. Place is packed again lot and lots of girl. This place is heaven but come early so you can be selective and choose the victim for the night. So we do our rounds and find many 7's 8's and some 10's. There is this girl that I saw the night before but this time she is alone so I walk up to her and ask her if I can buy her a beer. She tells me that she would stay with me and chill but that she would not drink. She has a bad headache. In my mind am saying this girl is super hot but if I go home with her and she is feeling the way she is feeling now, I won't have a good time. So I nicely say thanks but no thanks and go on my way. There is this other girl that is giving me the eye but I don't like her I like her friend so I tell her I want to go home with her friend. She tell me that her friend already has a boyfriend for the night but that I might be able to get her later on that night at the casino. So I say ok maybe and I go on my way.

So me and my bro are standing close to the door that heads downstairs and some girl comes up to me and tell me "hey you see my friend overthere, she likes you and would like it if you would hang out with her. Her friend had a smoking body with an ass that can compete with JLO but her face is average.

I tell her that I already have a girl with me that night and that maybe some other night. So it is around 1am and me and my bro finally find our Kill for the night. Two girls. Smoking hot. The girl I choose is Ingrid. Beautifull golden hair. Not dark and not white. Perfect in the the middle. Wonderfull tits and a great ass to go with that pretty face of her. So we negotiate and close the deal at 2000 pesos for couple of hours. I didn't drink as much as I did the first night so I was ready for everything. Got to the room and she looks very shy. So I asked her if she wanted me to buy her a beer. She says ok and off I go to the bar that is inside the hotel. So we are drinking our presidentes and she is telling me her story. She says this is her first time in sosua. She has done this in santiago a couple of times but very few times. Tells me she has a baby girl and that she works to buy milk fo the baby. She is also in college and wants to get something out of life. She made me feel very comfortable. We finish our beer and I tell her that I am taking a shower. And ask if she wants to join. She says no thank you. So I come out of the shower and she is in bed with only her panties on. Wow amazing body.

I am ready to cum and I haven't even touched this girl. So she starts touching me. Kissing my neck my chest, my body. Wow she is amazing. So it is my turn I lay her flat in the bed and start kissing those great tits. They get very hard real fast and I start touching her down there. I tell her hey your panties are getting really wet. She looks at me and gives me that look again like she is shy. So I kiss her breast and neck and she starts kissing me in the mouth and am like wow wow this wasnt plan but heck am in the mood right now I just don't care. She is really worked on now and moans very hard. Finally she tells me to stop cause she won't be able to take it anymore. She starts to kiss me and down she goes for one of my best BBBJ of all my life. She is so good that I ask if I can make a small video. She says NOOOOO. I ask for pics. She says NOOO. I don't want to make her mad so I don't push the subject. So she asks for the comdon and offf we go. First me on top, second doggy wow what a great asss she has. She is screaming and holding her hand at the end of the bed. I can feel her cuming and we relax for a min. I tell her I am not done yet. She tells me Si papi I know but give me a min to cach my breath. So she turns arond and plants herself. I am looking at her back and her ass just going up and down and that ass looks like a heart <3 and I just can't take it anymore. Wow. Greattt sex for the second night. We rest fot a couple of mins and her friends calls and says that she is ready to go. I give her the money and she tells me to walk her out the hotel. Outside she tell me that she is going to the casino and would love it if I see her there later. Gives me a kiss and off she goes. I go inside take a shower and off I am to the casino. To make the story short. I bring her back to my room again that night for an extra 1000 pesos and again another great bang. She told me that she was going back to santiago in the morning and did not know when she was coming back. Again walked her out kissed me in the mouth again and said that she hopes to see me again someday. God meeee too. Well folks it is time for bed. Hopefully manana I will post day 3 with some more pics I have around.

To all Good night

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@ScubaBum and @Cesar Luis

Thanks to you two for the great report and hope to read some more of them.
Its good that you enjoy your stay in Sosua and im sure you will have more fun again.

Hope to see more pics here.

I look forward to go there again for hole April. Will do some work, learn some more Spanish and of course have fun with girls there. I being there several time, but till now I haven't had any massage at Passion, but it was on my plan always.

Cheers

Don Ben

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Cesar Luis,

Where did you guys find the girl in the first picture? She's f***ing hot!! What's her name?

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

The girl in the first picture can sometimes be found at the new garden hotel. I had a really good session with her last time I was there.


She also walks around pedro clisante during the day.

[QUOTE=ScubaBum] San Jose was getting too dangerous for me to be comfortable any longer.[/QUOTE]ScubaBum, would you mind elaborating on this statement a bit? I've been to Sosua many times, but never to San Jose. I have read some things on the CR forum about increasing security risks in SJ.

How did you feel about your security in Sosua as opposed to SJ? (That pick-pocketing notwithstanding, I don't think you were in any physical danger).

Also, any thoughts on the differences in the mongering experience between the two places? Thanks in advance for any insights.

Since I have been in CR so much, I prefer to stay in apartments such as Sudamer or Morazon Apts. It is different than staying at the hotels where you can hop into a cab instantly and security is always there.

Also, I like to walk everywhere and I am very used to Tico barrios. When I lived with a Nica novia, I was comfortable in La Carpio where someone gets shot daily. I might have been ignorant to the danger, but I felt part of family and didn't want to embarass myself or the family by distancing myself from their way of life. Actually, I came away enriched by the experience.

My last trip to CR in Oct., made me feel that I was on borrowed time as to my safety.

At 3:50 pm on a Sat. afternoon, I came out of the Sportsmans Lodge and at the corner ran into an old Gringo with a .357 held against his head while he was emptying his pockets. His "date," was Anna (who many guys know from Idem-now at SL) and she was fending off a guy trying to get her pocketbook. 2 guys sat in a car next to this.

That night, at 1:30 am, a 23 yo chica took 4 bullets in her stomach in front of the front entrance to Key Largo.

On Tuesday, 2 men and a Del Rey chica were murdered in Escazu-an upscale Gringo barrio. One of the guys was in a regular poker game with a friend of mine.

Thursday of that week, another shooting at El Pueblo.

I just can't get that incident with the gun out of my mind and felt it was time for a change. I miss the CRT boys alot but........

San Jose is still a great mongering place. New low priced MPs are opening and there are about 300 places to get laid from under $10 (for the brazen) to $50 in addition to the Del Rey.

Of course, a lot of guys are going there now but it is still fun. Don't go around American or Tico holidays though.

Sosua to me is a breath of fresh air. Literally. The air in SJ is the worst I ever breathed. It is in a valley and the bus fumes are bad. Also, Sosua has the beach and beautiful girls willing to go for $45 or $60.

Classicos to me is better than the Del Rey, but SJ has the MPs and the full service strip bars where you can get a hottie for $20 or a little more. Lots of places like that. It's fun to go on tours of those places with groups of guys.

I walked around Sosua at 3-4am by myself and did not feel nervous. In SJ, you must be on your guard at 10am.

I hope that answers your questions and thanks for asking. I needed to get that off my chest.

She looked a little better after a lot of cervesas. Missing a couple of front teeth should have clued me in but what can I say?