How the hell do you handle a Mexican wife?
I used to joke about getting buried vs getting married. I am married, not buried.
Until now. HELP …
Those of you who are married to Mexican wives owe it to the society of mankind to spell it out. How the hell do you handle a Mexican wife?
Seems like the cabronish personality works best and reaps most rewards but that is not me. I am a lover, not a fighter. Ha-ha, yeah right.
I flex my muscles and that works fine. She bends over backward to keep me happy. I act like I don’t care and she is head over heels. To tell the truth, I enjoy the begging and all the efforts to “please her man”.
But the real me is, unfortunately, like Bob. Hey Bob. I am a loving caring romantic idiot. But that backfires and she is in control. Of course. You drool and they dangle the carrot. You take out the whip and they set, roll over, play dead and shake hands.
So how the hell do you handle a Mexican wife? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
El Cabron
GFE versus emotional marriage....
This is just my opinion, and it's the way I see it...Of course, differing personalities may make my opinions more or less correct depending on the individuals involved.
Control is a very strong instinct in males. It is also a very attractive quality that attracts females. But, eventually, as you enter into a legitimate relationship with one of these bar girls, and as the relationship progresses over time, the attractiveness of our taking control only appeals to them individually to the extent that they can rely upon it to nourish them emotionally, sexually, and to the extent that our control can physically take good care of them with respect to quality of life.
We can "control" the outcome and keep them coming back for more by appearing to relinquish control to them in order to continue to get what we want, which means we truly are in control because we are choosing to relinquish control.
Therefore, it is merely an illusion of relinquished control. The illusion,as perceived by them, is that we are relinquishing control on account of them, which translates for them into a testament to their uniqueness. That is the aphrodisiac that keeps them coming back for more as the relationship progresses.
I always did say that a Cabronish handling of bar girls is the correct strategy. But, once we cross that divide, we are talking about two entirely different scenarios, legitimate girlfriends versus GFE with h**kers. The strategies are a little different in the sense that you can not be as "harsh" with your GF as you can be with h**kers whose only motivation is money. With our legitimate bar girl girlfriends, we have to be much more caring.
With respect to your specific circumstances El Cabron, when you see her starting to take the circumstances you've created for her for granted, or you sense she is trying to dominate control of the relationship to your dis-satisfaction, then just put a little bit of very subtle doubt in her mind, just a little. Don't call her, don't pay any attention to her, one day, two days, then when she seeks you out, and you can sense her concern building, then come right back with the same former level of devotion.
It's the fear of losing your devotion to her that keeps things going on the right track. But, there's a delicate balance that keeps her delivering what you like. If each of your respective strategies to get what each of you wants goes too far one way or the other, then the relationship suffers. It's not so different than real marriage actually.
And always remember, she has a hell of a lot to lose, much more than you have to lose. Play off of that advantage. Having cultivated relationships with "those kinds of girls," we already know that their insecurities prompted them to enter professions that 90% of girls would never consider. So, they are far more fearful of life without you than most "good girls" would be under similar circumstances.
She is far better off with you now than she will ever likely be again. Make her taste a little bit of what life is like without you. And, I am not talking entirely about what we can do financially for them, but the totality of what we do for them in all respects, emotionally, financially, legitimately caring about them, everything. But, certainly, because their choices in life reveal them to be "that kind of girl" initially, I believe they are much more susceptible to feeling the effects of your monetary influence upon their lives than other kinds of girls. However, that is not to diminish all of the other benefits they "feel" from us. But, the prospect of our not taking care of them does, IMHO, weigh more heavily, and have greater influence upon their minds than the minds of most "good girls." Knowing that they possess those kinds of vulnerabilities is helpful in knowing the extent to which, and how, you can influence their behavior toward you.
It's human nature...they sometimes take us for granted, just as 99%, or countless millions, of legitimate husbands are taken for granted. But, life has a way of beating up on them regularly enough, especially in their kind of society, that if we plant a seed of fear over the prospect of alternative consequences they are apt to see the light pretty quickly, especially our girls who already love us emotionally, but also depend on us for at least a portion of their very existence.
And, don't discount the emotional support we give them. It's worth a ton to them. But, you put the two together, and they're a very powerful combination of influence upon them. And, I don't mean to imply that just because we strategize about them, that we are somehow disingenuous with respect to our sincerity toward them. It's just that we need to employ certain methods to keep things going in the right direction.
Frankly, it is easier dealing with bar girls whose only motivation is money. The strategy is cut and dry, and there are no emotional consequences. That's why I don't bawk at guys that just want to monger, and have no interest in my own kind of scenario. Our path is a lot of work.
So, you see, we are always in control. Just make them think that they are calling the shots in order to keep the effects of the aphrodisiac in full gear, in order to keep them fulfilled so you will also get what you want. Employ the same Cabronish tactics you always used, but turn down the volume of the strategies you've used on club girls in the past to the extent that you can still use your devotion to her to keep things headed in the right direction.
But, it sounds to me that your methods are working fine for you anyway. You said that you act like you don't care and she falls in line. I suspect that what has changed in comparison to your former application of these methods is that you "love her to death," and if you truly are as I am, a loving caring romantic...uhhhhh, "idiot"... :-) then, you "feel" the effects of being the Cabron. You must realize that your romantic and caring side is what motivates the relationship between you, and it's the foundation of her love for you. So, you have to apply the same methods you used before as a Cabron, but apply those methods with tender loving care.
But, bottom line...what ever made you believe that it would end up any differently than any other marriage? All girls get off on having control. As long as I know why I am permitting them to have control, and I am enjoying the "ride" it produces, then I'm happy.
See, the deeper you go, the more you understand....You are morphing uncontrollably into an Unspongebob2. Or, more accurately, El Un-CabronBob. :-)
[QUOTE=El Cabron 007]I used to joke about getting buried vs getting married. I am married, not buried.
Until now. HELP …
Those of you who are married to Mexican wives owe it to the society of mankind to spell it out. How the hell do you handle a Mexican wife?
Seems like the cabronish personality works best and reaps most rewards but that is not me. I am a lover, not a fighter. Ha-ha, yeah right.
I flex my muscles and that works fine. She bends over backward to keep me happy. I act like I don’t care and she is head over heels. To tell the truth, I enjoy the begging and all the efforts to “please her man”.
But the real me is, unfortunately, like Bob. Hey Bob. I am a loving caring romantic idiot. But that backfires and she is in control. Of course. You drool and they dangle the carrot. You take out the whip and they set, roll over, play dead and shake hands.
So how the hell do you handle a Mexican wife? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
El Cabron[/QUOTE]
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
well. there have been some relatively subtle changes in the monterrey scene over the last few months. the re-opening of givenchy several weeks ago, the closing of parthenon no less than approximately two weeks ago, and the shifting of all that talent to other clubs, mixing things up a bit. i thought perhaps some might like a cheat sheet to scope out new frontiers.
first, keep in mind that my comments are very time sensitive, and changes can occur rapidly from one week to the next. so, you can't really rely on things being as i am reporting here, not even if you visit here in the next two weeks.
givenchy has been a complete and total disappointment compared to its former self. i have scoped it out several times, literally walking through, scoping out the talent, walking literally around the stage looking in all directions, lingering long enough to make what is a brief but ample assessment. i wouldn't waste my time. i'll give it a couple more weeks, and scope it out again.
one thing about monterrey...change is constant. if you scope out a bar today, and it stinks, don't fall back on those conclusions forever. it can change, and sometimes it only changes for a few days and it's back to its old lousy self again. or, like in the former new givenchy, and now parthenon, they can morph into some pretty decent venues that actually give el infinito some competition.
first, lets clarify something about parthenon. it was temporarily closed down because some had reported it to have **** girls working there. this, in my opinion, was an inflated charge perpetrated by some patrons to parthenon that interpreted the ages of the girls to be younger than they really were, which caused the newspapers to smell a story they could sensationalize to sell product, something that newspapers in our present day world are notorious for doing all the time.
does anyone of us trust anything we read in the newspapers any more? i for one do not trust a word they say. their only motivation in our modern day society is to promote their particular brand of political indoctrination, primarily leftist political rhetoric, and sensationalize solely for the purpose of selling newspapers.
journalism is, for all intents and purposes, virtually dead. so, you can not rely on the "media" to report the facts. they are only interested in making up lies that serve their own interests. needless to say, when the word made it back to one of the reporters at the newspapers that parthenon was employing ****d girls, they jumped on it, hoping to cause a stir, and serve their own interests.
eventually, due to the sensationalizing of the newspaper, el norte, the municipal government in monterrey responded with a sting operation. did they find a huge number of girls in violation??? not hardly...they only found a grand total of only "two" girls that did not have proper age identification, hardly a testament to parthenon intentionally supplying **** girls in their operation.
fact is, and we all know this is true, on any one day we can find **** girls working in probably 95% of the bars in monterrey. so, while i do not condone their employing **** girls, it was quite obvious that the parthenon incident was sensationalized for the purposes of selling newspapers, and not because el norte, or the municipal government of monterrey, have any particular benevolence concerning the protection of young girls in the sex trade of monterrey.
and, it is true that the girls working at parthenon did appear young, pretty, sexy, and hot, more so than what i typically saw working at other clubs, where many girls are what i consider to be almost middle aged, 23-28 years old. so, yes, parthenon was becoming one of my favorite bars for hot "young," legal girls.
now, the subject of whether hot legally young girls, (ie: 18-19 years old), are particularly good companions on salida, etc...that's a different issue. in my opinion, they are not, and my conclusions relative to the parthenon "young" girls hasn't changed my mind on that particular subject with the exception of perhaps one that i would not really categorize as being among the hottest at parthenon. however, if you like to sit in the bars and enjoy some energetic young, legal, hot girls, then parthenon was becoming a very good venue, perhaps as good as el infinito, which up to then had been the all time champion of bars for hot and relatively young, legal girls.
so, the significance of finding another venue such as parthenon compared to el infinito, for me, was particularly encouraging. unfortunately, in order to sell newspapers, el norte's sensationalizing of the facts caused them to be shut down.
up to very recently, i was not sure where the girls from parthenon went. i had been told they were dispersed out among the other bars along villa gran. but, i had checked along villa gran, and could not locate one of them.
now, there is a particular bar that i don't often frequent named beibi's. it is virtually right across the street and catty cornered to el cielo on arteaga. in the past, it had always been a disappointment, a big disappointment. so, i never frequented there. oh, once in a while i recall visiting and finding a decent girl there, but the consistency was so unreliable that i never really visited with any frequency.
well, i was down on villa gran the other night, and my former waiter from parthenon recognized me walking along the street between el infinito and givenchy. he took me by the arm and walked me up to beibi's, where i found each and every one of my former "legally young" hot girls working.
parthenon is owned by the the same people that own azul tequilla, beibis, mangos, and few others, that according to one of my girlfriends working now at beibis.
so, you see, all of these supposedly "illegal" girls working at parthenon were all actually of legal age, and they are all working "legally" at beibis. i did notice one girl absent from the mix of girls that i knew at parthenon, and i suspected then that she "may" have been too young to be working there. but, the reality is, she was slightly fat, not really in the category of the young hot girls that attracted all the attention, etc...so, she may have been one of the grand total of two that were found to be working illegally at parthenon...why knows?
but, i can say that beibis now boasts the same hot lineup that was at parthenon, and be assured that all that the girls there are most certainly perfectly legal. with all the bars in el centro, especially the bars owned by the parthenon group, having been closely scrutinized for the last couple of weeks, so el norte can sell newspapers, and so the municipal government can boast that they have the best interests of the girls in mind...yeah right!...you can rest assured that the girls that were the subject of this "witch hunt" were all in fact of legal age.
my girlfriends told me that parthenon was actually scheduled to open again last thursday night. but, i checked out it, and that didn't happen. parthenon is likely to be closed for a couple of months. but, the girls seemed pretty convinced it was going to be opening pretty soon again, after having only been closed for a few weeks. they all expected to be working back there again last thursday, but that didn't happen. but, they were all pretty convinced that they would be back working there this week. so, i suspect that parthenon will open sooner than later just based on the expectation that all the girls had for it to re-open soon, as though their management had already prepared them for a move back to their old facility sooner than later.
i really couldn't care less which of the bars they work in, as long as they're out there. the facilities at parthenon are really no different than beibi's. parthenon is a larger facility than beibis. so, beibi's seems really packed full of girls right now. but, were you to move them all over to parthenon, it would be virtually the same number of girls that could always be found there.
one interesting benefit to having all these girls stuffed into a place like beibi's, which is a relatively crappy bar under regular circumstances, one that really has very few patrons under normal conditions, there is very little competition from other patrons compared to parthenon, el infinito, tangalay, etc...
with fewer patrons than usual, all the hotties are walking around doing all they can to attract your attention. some would be turned off by the constant question, "una copa?" but, my ears are relatively deaf to the question after all these years in the bars of monterrey. i just waive them off, and gawk more thoroughly, looking for whatever strikes my fancy that night. of course, as time progresses, and if the girls remain at beibi's, the public will likely begin to hear of beibi's new found attractiveness, and there will be more competition from other patrons.
amigomio had commented to me recently that this situation with parthenon having ****d girls had caused all the clubs in the area to suffer to the extent that so many of them had reductions in the numbers of hot girls that were working, the clubs apparently allowing only girls with legitimate identification to work.
apparently, with all of the attention from the municipal government coming down on the clubs along villa gran and in el centro, it has created a "fear" among bar management. and, there is also a residual effect in that many girls are intimidated by so much scrutiny by armed men, (ie: police, federales, etc...) that they just don't want to be "caught in the cross fire."
with the bar management being especially careful about which girls they're allowing to work, and the girls fearful of the "dangers" inherent in the thugs working within their own government that are entrusted with their safety (ie: the police and federales), it translates into there being a lesser number of girls working in the bars due apprehensions by management and the girls.
now, all of this being the case, then one can only logically conclude that parthenon was no worse than "all" the rest of the bars in el centro. afterall, the raid only produced two supposedly ****d girls at parthenon. and, not that they were actually ****d, but only that they could not produce proper age identification when carded...and there is a difference. but, obviously, all the bars in el centro are guilty to the same degree as parthenon, if not more so, if in fact their numbers of girls are down based on a fear by management that "some" of their girls could shut them down.
i happen to know based on a very intimate knowledge of el infinito in particular that they are being especially careful. logically, if you have nothing to be ashamed of, then why be especially careful? obviously, parthenon's infraction of the rules were no more egregious than all the rest of the bars in el centro. it was definitely a witch hunt, and parthenon has received an undue and unfair slandering against its reputation as a decent bar, one that has every right to be patronized compared to el infinito, tangalay, el cielo, givenchy, etc...
so, now that we have set the record straight with respect to parthenon being no more or less guilty of routine practices employed by each and every one of the bars in monterrey, we can give it credit where credit is due. it is a contender, competing right along side of el infinito, with nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of.
normally, i am quite selfish about reporting these kinds of transitions for fear that my reporting them might hasten the decline of presently favorable circumstances, thereby sabotaging my own enjoyment of the venue. however, i suspect it will be business as usual at parthenon quite soon, and beibi's fifteen minutes of fame will once again be history, with beibi's assuming it's former crappy reputation once again, probably sooner than later. i will be disappointed to see that happen.
too bad they can't just re-populate it with huge numbers of newbie, hot, barely old enough girls, but "legally aged" girls of course....let's all be honest, that's what we like to look at, verdad? who votes for a 35 year old fat mama, versus a barely 18 year old hot, hard bodied, angel, uhmmmm? lets not be too hypocritical about this age issue.
but, it's likely that beibi's will fall back to its former lousy self. i could never really understand why some bars have such lousy lineups. there are so many thousands, hundreds of thousands really, of hot and willing girls in monterrey that need to make a peso, and are willing to go to work in the bars. frankly, there is simply no excuse for bars having such crappy lineups. the supply is huge. it's just another reflection on poor bar management, imho, because supply is certainly not the problem.
one good thing that came out of this whole scenario with the closing of parthenon was my introduction by one of my parthenon (beibi's) girls to mangos, a bar that i had never visited before. when i visited mangos with her, she cleared the way for salidas with no less than four new girls, hot girls, ones i had never met before, all of them making an unsolicited offer to go on salida, not having spoken to me for more than two minutes each. i was apparently "pre-cleared" as a known and trusted entity by my parthenon/beibi's girl. had i wanted to go on salida, the choices between beibi's and mangos would have made for a very interesting evening.