Bogota Reports

I agree with this. It seems to be the same in just about any city. The difference between the 150k girls the 300k girls and the 30k girls is next to nothing. A lot of times literally those girls will only be allowed to work one or two days a week in the more expensive places so they fill the holes by working in the cheaper joints. Just like the food here, the more you pay doesn't necessarily mean better AT ALL.

[QUOTE=Peter Fonda]Hola amigos.

I have been in Bogota, Colombia many times. Recently I was there in Feb. Here, so many first time-goers are asking about the ' la mansion' on the right side of Autopista N. First, girls are just little above of average than in many places in Bogota. They look nicer than in place like Chapinero o Santa Fe because the place looks much clean and well decorated (in the standard of Colombia). Chicas are maybe little bit well dressed. Atmosphere is upgraded. However, the girls are basically all same as others. They are the girls who want to make extra to support family o for their educational goals. I am not saying they are all putas. Juan Pablo is same as this. If you want to truely meet real-non-pros, just go to shopping center in day time o Zona Rosa area at night and make your effort. Still there are tons of girls who want to meet foreigner for fun o for serious relationship. If you want to meet some semi-pros, PM me. Remember that I have been in Bogota 77 times. I know only good places in Bogota. But It will cost you little more, but lots of fun.[/QUOTE]

Peter Fonda and Bango Cheito are correct. Even here in Florida, a lot of the strip clubs are owned by the same people. If a girl at a low-end club is popular, she gets bumped up to a high-end club. If a girl at a high-end club isn't popular, she gets knocked down to a low-end club.

I've never been to Bogota, but the same thing happens in other cities of Colombia. The same owners have both high-end and low-end places. The girls don't have internet forums to share info like we do. Everything is by word of mouth. A very attractive girl might start at a low-end place because that is where she has a contact. The manager of the low-end place wants her there, but the girl slowly learns about the high-end places. Unlike the mangers of the low-end places, the owners want the best girls at the high-end places. At the high-end places, there are more foreign guys. The Colombians sometimes can't predict the tastes of the foreign guys so the owners use trial and error. Sometimes too many girls don't show up on a particular day at a high-end place so they start transferring girls over from the low-end places. Also, a high-end place may need to send a bunch of girls to a corporate event so they start start transferring girls over from the low-end places. If a girl from a low-end place proves to be popular at a high-end place, she may get bumped up permanently to the high-end place.

As for why the same girl often looks better at a high-end place than at a low-end place, the answer is simple. The high-end places have stylists and make-up artists on their staffs. The low-end places do not have stylists and make-up artists on their staffs. If you go to Barranquilla, you will see the girls from Lusitania in the afternoons at Buenavista before the stylists and make-up artists work their magic. It's terrifying.

There is an entire industry of people in Colombia who "arreglar" the girls before they are shipped to the United States, Europe, Japan, the Middle East, etc.

So there's little correlation between price and quality. Personally, I think there's a greater correlation between time and quality. The less time they have worked as a prostitute, the better the quality of the experience. That's my opinion, anyway.

Bango Cheito mentioned restaurants, and he's right. It's mind-boggling. In the United States, there is a correlation between price and quality at restaurants. The most expensive restaurants are usually the best restaurants. Are there exceptions? Sure, but the generalization is still accurate. In Colombia, there is no predictability whatsoever. In Colombia, there is no correlation whatsoever between price and quality at restaurants. It's absolutely mind-boggling.

Frankly, Colombian food sucks. The Colombians need to take some lessons from the Peruvians. There are outstanding restaurants all over Lima.

Colombian women are the only reason to ever step foot in Colombia.

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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]I agree with this. It seems to be the same in just about any city. The difference between the 150k girls the 300k girls and the 30k girls is next to nothing. A lot of times literally those girls will only be allowed to work one or two days a week in the more expensive places so they fill the holes by working in the cheaper joints. Just like the food here, the more you pay doesn't necessarily mean better AT ALL.[/QUOTE]I've seen Mansion girls doing outcall and working the street. Went to look, never felt interested in staying to pay & play.

Soooo. Does anyone have info on the "Mansion" on Calle 49. In comparison to the one on the Autopista Norte 117? Which of the two is supposedly better. In terms of girls and decor (which is the famed, mythological Mansion with the beauty queens and models--not that I believe it, I'd just like to check it out)?

Thanks,

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,

Can anyone verify that these are not referring to the same location? I've been to the one on Autopista Norte and Pepe Sierra and I liked it but it was way overpriced. Looking to try to hit up the other one, pending good recommendations, if it exists.

Quesada Casas (Area Can Be Dangerous at Night)

1. La Mansión de la Barbie Calle 49 # 13-70. 6-8 Chicas. Prices: Entrance 1k, Chicas 20k 15 minutes, 40k 30 min., 60k hour. Hours: __.

Santa Barbara

2. La Mansion, Autopista Norte 117 & Pepe Sierra (Calle 116). __ Chicas. Prices: 20k for Beer, 150k-300k 60 min. Hours: __.

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Soooo. Does anyone have info on the "Mansion" on Calle 49. In comparison to the one on the Autopista Norte 117? Which of the two is supposedly better. In terms of girls and decor (which is the famed, mythological Mansion with the beauty queens and models--not that I believe it, I'd just like to check it out)?

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]The famous one is at 116 (Pepe Sierra) and Autopista.

And you're right: there are no beauty queens or models to be found there, although sometimes you can find an authentic (overpriced, though) gem among the staff, and befriend her to meet elsewhere.

I've been with Mansion girls after a first meeting in the house, or have met them before in other casas and have later on found them working this "higher class" joint.

As for the 49 mansion, I believe they use the name because it is somehow classy and represents. I've said this in other reports. Some kind of urban myth among taxi drivers and other people in Bogota (thinking that famous models and actresses work there. Absolute BS).

Something similar is happening with Abejitas. A very good MP. I keep seeing advertisements for "abejitas del norte", "abejitas reinas", etc.

Guys who run brothels seem to be extremely creative at naming their joints.

[QUOTE=Client 9]Peter Fonda and Bango Cheito are correct. Even here in Florida, a lot of the strip clubs are owned by the same people. If a girl at a low-end club is popular, she gets bumped up to a high-end club. If a girl at a high-end club isn't popular, she gets knocked down to a low-end club.[/quote]I've never been to Bogota, but the same thing happens in other cities of Colombia. The same owners have both high-end and low-end places. The girls don't have internet forums to share info like we do. Everything is by word of mouth. A very attractive girl might start at a low-end place because that is where she has a contact. The manager of the low-end place wants her there, but the girl slowly learns about the high-end places. Unlike the mangers of the low-end places, the owners want the best girls at the high-end places. At the high-end places, there are more foreign guys. The Colombians sometimes can't predict the tastes of the foreign guys so the owners use trial and error. Sometimes too many girls don't show up on a particular day at a high-end place so they start transferring girls over from the low-end places. Also, a high-end place may need to send a bunch of girls to a corporate event so they start start transferring girls over from the low-end places. If a girl from a low-end place proves to be popular at a high-end place, she may get bumped up permanently to the high-end place.

As for why the same girl often looks better at a high-end place than at a low-end place, the answer is simple. The high-end places have stylists and make-up artists on their staffs. The low-end places do not have stylists and make-up artists on their staffs. If you go to Barranquilla, you will see the girls from Lusitania in the afternoons at Buenavista before the stylists and make-up artists work their magic. It's terrifying.

There is an entire industry of people in Colombia who "arreglar" the girls before they are shipped to the United States, Europe, Japan, the Middle East, etc.

So there's little correlation between price and quality. Personally, I think there's a greater correlation between time and quality. The less time they have worked as a prostitute, the better the quality of the experience. That's my opinion, anyway.

Bango Cheito mentioned restaurants, and he's right. It's mind-boggling. In the United States, there is a correlation between price and quality at restaurants. The most expensive restaurants are usually the best restaurants. Are there exceptions? Sure, but the generalization is still accurate. In Colombia, there is no predictability whatsoever. In Colombia, there is no correlation whatsoever between price and quality at restaurants. It's absolutely mind-boggling.

Frankly, Colombian food sucks. The Colombians need to take some lessons from the Peruvians. There are outstanding restaurants all over Lima.

Colombian women are the only reason to ever step foot in Colombia.

In general, Colombian food is not too bad. I am not sure which cities you have been to. In my experience, big cities in Colombia have very good restaurants, specially in bogota..It is expensive, but excellent.

Friends,

I messed up in posting my report (8:54 am).

Please ignore it.

Anyone going to be around this weekend? I know the timing is shit, Palm Sunday and all, but I'll be passing through Bogota Saturday night and Sunday day on the way to business on the coast. Been through BOG a few times so I'll be out and about. Write me if you want to tag along.

[QUOTE=Client 9]Frankly, Colombian food sucks. The Colombians need to take some lessons from the Peruvians. There are outstanding restaurants all over Lima.[/QUOTE]Man, you are *so* wrong. Bogotá has some great restaurants at fantastic prices. Where on earth have you been eating?

[QUOTE=Peter Fonda]In general, Colombian food is not too bad. I am not sure which cities you have been to. In my experience, big cities in Colombia have very good restaurants, specially in Bogota. It is expensive, but excellent.[/QUOTE]First, it would be helpful if you learn to use the quotation button properly.

I wouldn't say Colombian restaurants are too expensive. Price isn't the issue. Quality is the issue.

Again, I've never been to Bogota. However, I do go to the other four major cities of Colombia (Barranquilla, Cali, Cartagena and Medellin). In all of those cities, Colombian food is boring and Colombian restaurants suck. The so-called "best" restaurants in Colombia do not compare with the best restaurants in any developed country I have visited. Furthermore, the so-called "best" Colombian restaurants do not compare favorably with restaurants in other countries of Latin America. Restaurants are far better in San Jose, better still in Buenos Aires and the best restaurants of all are in Lima.

Are there exceptions? Sure, but the generalization is still accurate. In every city I find a handful of Colombian restaurants that are adequate. Not great, simply adequate. Since my visits to Colombia range from one month to four months, this is a problem. It is tiresome to eat at the same handful of restaurants month after month.

In my experience in Colombia, Gringos tend to congregate at certain restaurants that attempt to mimic Argentine steakhouses.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Colombia is the easiest place in the world to meet and date beautiful women. Other than the women, almost everything about Colombia sucks. Without the women, there is absolutely no reason to ever step foot in Colombia.

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Client 9,

I beg to disagree with you. Some of the finest restaurants I have ever eaten in were in Bogota. Pesquerilla jamarillo, would compare very favorably with any great fish restaurant in the world. Café Renault is also excellent Italian, Café Bogota has excellent excellent high class Colombian food also in park 93 are some great sushi and other restaurants.

Had some great fondue 3 nights ago chalet Suisse.

With respect to Colombia. I would like to retire there. Colombia according to the HPI, happy person index, has the second happiest people on earth USA ranks # 150. I find the people wonderful and the cost of living incredibly low.

Mel

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Man, you are *so* wrong. Bogotá has some great restaurants at fantastic prices. Where on earth have you been eating?[/QUOTE]Reading comprehension on an internet forum is important. For the third time, my generalization about Colombian restaurants is based on four major cities of Colombia (Barranquilla, Cali, Cartagena and Medellin). Again, I have never been to Bogota.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gents,

Can anyone verify that these are not referring to the same location? I've been to the one on Autopista Norte and Pepe Sierra and I liked it but it was way overpriced. Looking to try to hit up the other one, pending good recommendations, if it exists.

Quesada Casas (Area Can Be Dangerous at Night)

1. La Mansión de la Barbie Calle 49 # 13-70. 6-8 Chicas. Prices: Entrance 1k, Chicas 20k 15 minutes, 40k 30 min., 60k hour. Hours: __.

Santa Barbara

2. La Mansion, Autopista Norte 117 & Pepe Sierra (Calle 116). __ Chicas. Prices: 20k for Beer, 150k-300k 60 min. Hours: __.

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

La Mansion de Barbie is a daytime, low-end brothel with 4 or 5 girls there, charging COP$20K for a quickie. On my first trip to Bogota five years ago, a cabbie dropped me there when I told him to bring me to a place with girls. I still have the business card. I asked the girl the name of the place and she said "La Mansion de Barbie" and I was excited because I thought it was the famous "La Mansion" I had read about. Didn't realize until later it was a totally different place. There is nothing special about it; there are many dozens and dozens of places just like it all over central Bogota.

La Mansion is fancy, very expensive night club in north Bogota. I only went there once (it is not particularly well-known to cabbies, even when you ask for it by name) and really was not impressed at all.

[QUOTE=Blourghus]They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

La Mansion de Barbie is a daytime, low-end brothel with 4 or 5 girls there, charging COP$20K for a quickie. On my first trip to Bogota five years ago, a cabbie dropped me there when I told him to bring me to a place with girls. I still have the business card. I asked the girl the name of the place and she said "La Mansion de Barbie" and I was excited because I thought it was the famous "La Mansion" I had read about. Didn't realize until later it was a totally different place. There is nothing special about it; there are many dozens and dozens of places just like it all over central Bogota.

La Mansion is fancy, very expensive night club in north Bogota. I only went there once (it is not particularly well-known to cabbies, even when you ask for it by name) and really was not impressed at all.[/QUOTE]Great! That's exactly the description I was looking for.

Rodeo

Would anyone else find interest in a thread specifically for posting contact info (phone numbers, email addresses, club she works in) on the chicas? This would of course be for pros only, not non-pros of personal relationships.

What do y'all think?

Rodeo