Istanbul

hey neyzen,

thanks for your explanation but i think there is a misunderstanging here, i know that sharing is the aim of this board, when i was talking about the rules, i meant using pm feature of this forum, as you know you can't be able to send pm to regular members and also regular members can't receive pms, to benefit this feature you have to pay or wait for 6 months to upgrade your membership that's what i was trying to say with bad english;)

and also about sharing subject, i always share my informations with this board members whom they contact me via mail, they know me very well, i am / was still in touch with all of them,

thank you

[quote=neyzen tevfik]dear friend,

may it be that you may have misunderstood or exaggerated our rules within this section (İstanbul) and generalized this to the forum ?

please let me remind you (of course it is up to you to comply with our rules or, give out your hard-earned info freely or publicly):

giving the contact number of s girl to a fellow member is not prohibited. in fact, it is the aim of this forum to share... however, we do not do this publicy, in order to prevent **** and/or non-deserving people to abuse this forum as a source of free wh*re numbers or pictures.

thus, we give numbers or info only by using the personal mail (pm) system provided freely in this forum. also, some of us (like myself) takes the liberty of choosing whom to give these hard-earned info and whom not to...

that's all...[/quote]

I was in Istanbul last week.

Went to Seranda on a Saturday night.

I was there before a couple of days before and this cute girl have been dancing and give me a serious staring but I left because I was not interested.

That Saturday night, I was at Bacardi and the picking was awful.

Bacardi was in sliding down slope in terms of quality.

Three years ago, almost every girl there were model quality and now you have to force yourself to like the girls there.

So I went to Seranda and saw this same girl giving me a serious stare from the dance floor and signal her head to ask me to come over.

She was by far the cutest girl in the room.

Her name is Lisa, from Moldovia, she look like a cute Latina girl from the US.

We agreed on 100 US $ for one hour and 50 US$ for the room upstairs.

This is when it went downhill.

We stripped naked, she immediately put on condom and stick it into her pussy.
Three minutes into it she asked me why I haven't come yet.

I wanted to change position and she comply, and then one minute later, she asked again if I still haven't come.

I ask for another position, she let me for 30 seconds and fake a leg cramp and said she can't continue anymore.

Clearly, I was pissed and start putting on my clothes while she tried to make small talk like nothing was out of ordinary.

When I finished dressed up, she ask if I was angry.

I looked at her and told her why she agreed on 1 hour when she really want to do it for just 5 minutes and she fake non understanding of the English language when the whole time she was speaking English to me up to that point.

So guys, the name is LISA from MOLDOVIA.

Shoulder lenght hair, dark blonde hair and around 5'9".

AVOID, AVOID, AVOID!

I was in Istanbul again last week.

Was there in February and got a very gorgeous girl from Bacardi and thought I would go back there again to try my luck.

The girls in Bacardi was not good anymore.

By the way, I realized now that Bacardi have double standard where the drinks and fruits cost 30 Ytl and the drink for girl is 20 Ytl for local Turkmen but for visitors from other countries, it jumped to 50 Ytl.

If you bring a girl with you, the bouncer at the door will insist on 20 Ytl tips while if you are a Turkmen, you are only oblige to pay 10 Ytl.

There you go guys! Your favorite club's double standard.

I was there on my first night and did not get anyone, so I went to Seranda and see no one.

Then went to Balance Disco in Altin Ishik hotel right on the corner from Seranda.
Saw this blonde girl with big tits giving me a serious stare from the dance floor.
I went up to her and she told me her name is Karina from Moldovia.

We agreed on US$ 100 and the room was 7o Ytl (US $50).

Went up to the room and when she took off her clothes, her 36 DD turned into a B cup! It's all the padding on the tube top she's wearing.

She gave me bj with condom but her vagina smells so I was quite turned off five minutes into it.

I force myself to finish quick and get the hell out of there.

By the way, I went to all the places the posters of this board recommended and spent some serious entrance and drink fees to check out the scenes.

I must say, that Bacardi have the best quality girls but their girls are not even that good anymore compare to what it was three years ago.

I met a regular there and he told me all the hot model looking girls, give their numbers to the regular clients and stop going to Bacardi and just work through phones and word of mouth from their regular clients.

Plus there is one guy who is a host at Bacardi, he is tall but hunch over and look like Elliot Gould the actor.

He was nice to me at the beginning and try to get girls to come sit with me but I decline and told him that I did not see anyone I like just yet.

Half an hour into it, he got mad and screamed at me in Turkish to get me out of the table he was watching over.

I was ready to leave but another host ran over and took me to another table far away from the stage.

Nice treatment to the customers, guys!

Anyway, by 4 AM , I did take one girl from Ukraine back to my hotel at the Hilton, which by the way, have no problem with girls going to your room.
We agreed on $ 150 US and a cab fee back for her for 2 sex.

But she left after we did it once which I did not push for the second one because it was already close to 5 AM and I felt like sleeping by then.

In conclusion, I would rather be in London, Amsterdam, or Montreal and pay more to get better quality girls and avoid all the hassle, legworks and bad treatments than to go back to Istanbul again and deal with Bacardi.

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[QUOTE=Low Skill]I know that sharing is the aim of this board, when I was talking about the rules, I meant using PM feature of this forum, as you know you can't be able to send PM to regular members and also regular members can't receive PMs, to benefit this feature you have to pay or wait for 6 months to upgrade your membership [/QUOTE]

Ouch, since I did not check new rules, I was not aware that a REGULAR member cannot use the PM feature.

I remember that I was able to use the PM system from the moment I enrolled into this forum; being a regular member first, then it went on the same way with my senior membership. But it has been so long, that I might be remembering false.

Furthermore, as much as I know, becoming a senior member is not a matter of time (waiting for 5-6 months or whatsoever), but it's the number and value of contributions that one makes.

Neyzen Out...

StJohn,

Sorry to hear your bad experience but that is how it is for mongering. There will be days for bad and good luck. Also this week being the christmas time all the girls went back to their home countries for vacation. Considering the fact that there are rarely any Turkish women working at the Aksaray scene I think the lack of good looking women can be explained.

When it comes to the double standart at the clubs. It is a tough world out there. That can happen to any tourist visiting any city around the globe.

I didn’t surprise what StJohn has faced.

No need to discover America again. There is a serious downtrend on quality and service in Aksaray.

Equally, the quality of independents is also on downtrend. I was lucky to experience the last days of the good old days.

Very few of the top notch girls are on market. There are too many regular beauties and very few hidden jewels.

Moldavian and Ukrainian girls prefer to go to Italy, Spain, Greece and Cyprus. Some works at Romanian cabarets than move to EU countries.

No problem dude, but I want to mention that again in order not to giving wrong/old information to newbies:

From the faq:

How does a Regular Member become a Senior Member?

Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports.

[QUOTE=Neyzen Tevfik]Ouch, since I did not check new rules, I was not aware that a REGULAR member cannot use the PM feature.

I remember that I was able to use the PM system from the moment I enrolled into this forum; being a regular member first, then it went on the same way with my senior membership. But it has been so long, that I might be remembering false.

Furthermore, as much as I know, becoming a senior member is not a matter of time (waiting for 5-6 months or whatsoever), but it's the number and value of contributions that one makes.

Neyzen Out...[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the sympathy guys.

I would not return to Istanbul for mongering again.

As far as I know, all the top notch gorgeous girls from EE can easily be found in London, Paris, and Prague. I would really rather pay double the Aksaray rate and have incredible time with gorgeous girls in nice apartments than sitting around in some smoky joints getting abusive treatment by the thugs in the clubs just for the sake of getting some mediocre girls who provide below par services or sometime did not even deliver as promised.

After discovering this wonderful forum, I decided to begin my career visiting girls in Istanbul. I went to Bacardi, it was easy to locate. There were a lot of beautiful girls. I choosed the girl named Anna. I was very exited, because this was my first, I couldnt stop myself to look her eyes.We had 3 times in 3 hours. But I agree that prices do increase (paid 150$)

To be continued.

Best Regards

[QUOTE=Yupi Yup]I believe there is a reason why these are the only recomended places at the forum. They are tested many times and had no problems (only a few unlucky ones). If you are into some adventure you can try other places but from my and my friends experiences it is not going to be very pleasent.(I do not think that anyone actively mongering can say they were never cheated)

There is one thing that I am sure of, even if you can find other decent places the price structure is not going to be any different. If you hear an offer that is too good I would definately stay away.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

Unfortunately those places are mostly rip-offs: there are lots of hidden costs involved. I went to the one right opposite of Irmak and I picked up a very beautiful moldovian. I had to pay the waiter, the bill, the maitre d' who showed our table initially, an illegimate taxi to drive to 1 minute distance, and so on so on. Stay away!!!

[QUOTE=Calarasi]I saw at news on Sunday that an MP at Ortakoy is closed by the police and 2 man and 4 or 5 lady are arrasted. Because of sex at MP. Dou you know about that place. That means that all MP's are not secure anymore or there was a problem at that place?[/QUOTE]

The one at Ortakoy is called ROXY. Although I have never been to that place, I remember them advertising in the Posta newspaper under "saglik" section. I located their place driving by.

But I reckon there is an epidemic going on now with MPs. Just yesterday I went to the rather new "La Vie" establishment at Levent. When I was escorted to the room, I asked for "happy ending" rather than the shitty massage. The reply was that they were not offering that service. I told them I had received happy ending at the very location. Still they refused. I thought that they took me for a police or something. But I guess your information reinforces the idea that the cops are being very strict with them.

Hi there guys,

I am I glad to be back in this WSG forum. First of all, I have been block out as the sensorship in Qatar pretty much control all websie which are considered as undesireable. I had to battle my way out to get a proxy that works this time round. I understand that informations from fellow brothers from the Turkey forum is pretty much confine to those who are actually residing in Turkey itself. Belive me, I understand and repect that. I will be visiting Istanbul on the 1st and will be there till the 5th of Jan 2007. Happy New Year, I just need some help on information on a particular escort known as Carmen. She only services non Turkish lads(as specified on her webpage). I did communicate with her via email and she seems OK. I know how you brothers felt about local girls, but has anyone really tried her. I got a feed back from a Mister, on the expate forum saying that she acts as a profesional, but actually is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Appreciate it if you brother have a prior info on this.

Puz Hunter

[QUOTE=Low Skill]No problem dude, but I want to mention that again in order not to giving wrong/old information to newbies:

From the faq:

How does a Regular Member become a Senior Member?

Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports.[/QUOTE]

Here is Jackson's comment about this (see Ankara Section for the post):

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Hi Anaffair,

Do you mean that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can't afford a $13 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained?

If you purchase a subscription then you can use the PM system.

Come on dude, a forum subscription is less than the price of a newspaper once a week.

Thanks,

Jackson

Back in Istanbul after a three month absence so it was time to call the old numbers and see if the girls were still around. Got a hit on the first call so never made it down the list :) Maya is my head over heals GFE that you can read about earlier in this thread. For you lazy people:

Maya - 23, tall, medium brown hair, Moldovan. She works at Bacardi and speaks some english as well as decent Turkish. No DFK, no anal, no BBBJ. Tender and sweet, extreme GFE.

She came, it was great. She's not cold/indifferent, she doesn't cut the time, she doesn't smoke, and her phone never interupts. What more can you ask for?

Damage is $100/hour, which means I'm over paying. Don't know how these guys that are swinging $200-300 all night pull it off.

The expression GFE has been discussed couple of times in the forum. We have never come up with a final definition.

Some explains GFE as a non-commercial, unrushed, enjoyable and relaxing session.

And for others, not only the harmony of chemistry and mind, personality and mutual expectations trigger the effects of GFE; but also a session that facilitates the experience, cuddling, foreplay, DFK and BBBJ creates the illusion and reality of passion for both sides (but mostly only for man’s side)

No matter how she involves, a session without DFK, DATY and BBBJ cannot be described as GFE in my book.

I am one of the guys, who throws $200-250 for all-night and time-to-time don’t mind to pay $200 for 2 hours. You have to pay more for the quality services (101 Economics).

Very few of the Aksaray girls offer a true GFE (the way I understand). None of the Aksaray girls offer a real lesbi show and/or threesome (with or without toys). You have to go Aksaray, spend more than they deserve, try to obtain their confident and impose her to take to your place. Nobody gurantees that she will be responsive and honest on session. I am not that tolerant anymore.

I am lazy guy; I call the girl and she shows up in my door less than an hour with a sexy designer outfit, sultry lingerie, sexy stockings and designer high heel boots. I get what I asked.

Keep in mind that at the end of the session, she puts her dress on, refreshes her make up and leaves the place for another customer. And that is the reality behind it.

GFE is only an illusion that man creates and loves to experience.


Happy New Year! Wish you all the best and a pleasant Bayram