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[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2227179]LOL hairy? I actually remember the first girl I ever met in Rio, can picture her face but what was between her legs? I don't remember, probably manicured somewhat but not bald LOL.[/QUOTE]
This week I went through old Brazil photos, 1991-2018. Throwing away more or less one thousand of old photos (I hope the garbish guy don't open the plastic bags). It was a nice memory walk to sort out the best photos. What I noticed where the bushes and the bikinis, how they have changed during the years. In the nineties, slimmer girls, more natural tits, no silicone and bushes (I do prefer shaved or landing strips).
However, I noticed how Copacabana (and Brazil in general) have changed. Help, Meia Pataca, the quiosques and ho-beach have changed a lot.
I would rate:
1991-1996 as number 1 (the Golden days, tons of women everywhere in Copacabana)
1997-1998 as number 2 (the start of the cleaning up in Brazil in a small scale)
1999-2010 as number 3 (many brazilian mongering scenes getting killed, and many of the Copa-veterans leaving the sunking ship)
2010-2014 as number 4 (Copa mongering on the final stage)
2015-... as number 5 (the mongering scene in Rio being limited to Mabs, thermas, privés and trash)
I guess Brazil 1980-1991 might have been even better?
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[QUOTE=RioBob;2227133]Since I've mentioned numerous times my first time in Rio was 1980 here is a pic of my 1980 Brazil Visa.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting that, Bob. Now remind me how much it costed back then? I recall at one point in the 80's it was $50 USD for American Citizens, which was a bit of cash for a young guy in and out of college at the lower end of the wage scale. I'd be curious, what was the price range of the girls back then.
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[QUOTE=RioBob;2227179]LOL hairy? I actually remember the first girl I ever met in Rio, can picture her face but what was between her legs? I don't remember, probably manicured somewhat but not bald LOL. I was staying at the Rio Palace which is now Sofitel in Copa, the Cafe next door Pigalle must have been 25 girls sitting there. I had no idea they were hookers, I told my friend something is up with this place all these beautiful girls are looking at us. The rest is history.
From 1980 to 1987 I went to Rio 35 times, I worked for Pan American airways at the time and flew everywhere. To be honest I had no idea about Military dictatorship, I was young and having a good time. Copacabana was packed with girls in every cafe, Franks bar, Barbarellas, Club Erotika etc. Help didn't open until 1984 but really wasn't a monger destination. I frequented places like Regines in the Meridian hotel, Crocodile in The Rio Othon Palace and Hippopotamus in Ipanema where Barronetti was. Girls were cheap and next day they would show up at your hotel to go out again, many times money wasn't even discussed but paid anyway just to set it straight.[/QUOTE]Funny I went to rio in 2006 and even then I would still see the little soul patch on their puss.
I will say one thing, I noticed many Brazillian girls tend to have larger clits. Maybe that is why their sexdrive is so much higher and more intense.
Thanks for all the contribution. I was looking for thru the internet archve to try and find old photos of Help from the 2006-2007 era. It was just an amazing time. Only thing was, the DJ played the same exact playlist every single night!
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[QUOTE=BlueChange;2227294]Funny I went to rio in 2006 and even then I would still see the little soul patch on their puss.
I will say one thing, I noticed many Brazillian girls tend to have larger clits. Maybe that is why their sexdrive is so much higher and more intense.
Thanks for all the contribution. I was looking for thru the internet archve to try and find old photos of Help from the 2006-2007 era. It was just an amazing time. Only thing was, the DJ played the same exact playlist every single night![/QUOTE]I love the memories. Do you mind posting some of the photos? I would love to see some old Help photos girls or no girls in the shot.
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[QUOTE=BlueChange;2227294]I will say one thing, I noticed many Brazillian girls tend to have larger clits. Maybe that is why their sexdrive is so much higher and more intense.[/QUOTE]Nahhh. Many Brazilian girls do not tend to have larger clits; that is only the ones that use steroids. Old Help photo.
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2227112]Verify trip-reports with passport stamps? What will be the next? Photos of used condoms to verify sessions?[/QUOTE]LOL. We can go there too!
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[QUOTE=RioBob;2227200]He was talking about Reals not dollars: "The damage was are $389 (9 for a soda). ".[/QUOTE]I was indeed, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I'd rather assign the job to one of my hands than pay actual $400 to a professional for releasing a few mls of my bodily fluids.
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Help, history lesson.
Regarding Help.
Before Help was built there used to be a palace, Casa do Vaticano. First it was a kind of simple house. Later around 1930 it was turned into a palace looking house. It was built by an italian earl, Conde Innodare, who was married to a polish ballet dancer, Estephania Paskovitej.
https://1.bp.bl*gspot.com/-qLz16d6VKdg/WRrUnFobpQI/AAAAAAAAAnU/I0MHXY_gDgsmc9n6HcHGo7h5WRvql5S3gCLcB/s1600/9238%2BCasa%2Bdo%2BVaticano%2BSzendrodi.jpg
Later the house was abandoned and invaded by homeless people.
https://3.bp.bl*gspot.com/-R2egLhrrKaw/WRwbgsQmjpI/AAAAAAAAAn0/FoFRJHkDXmc97hIDEetC-XAHVYI0vo3-wCLcB/s1600/9243%2BCasa%2BVaicano.jpg
In 1984 a spanish guy, Chico Recarey, constructed Discoteca Help. First it worked as a fancy disco. What I heard it used to be mainly white people visiting the disco the first years. Later they allowed coloured girls to enter, this in combination with gringos turned the disco into a monger-temple.
The governor Sérgio Cabral put an end to Help in 2010.
http://www.rioquepassou.com.br/2011/12/05/casa-do-vaticano-1971/
http://saudadesdoriodoluizd.bl*gspot.com/2017/05/casa-do-vaticano_17.html
https://revistatrip.uol.com.br/tpm/a-pista-quente-da-help-fecha-as-portas
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Sperto,
Wasn't there a family with a Polish name linked to the ownership of the Help property towards the end? Any relation to the Count's wife?
By the way, I couldn't get those links to work. They're some long hyperlinks. Not sure the problem.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2227486]Sperto,
Wasn't there a family with a Polish name linked to the ownership of the Help property towards the end? Any relation to the Count's wife?
By the way, I couldn't get those links to work. They're some long hyperlinks. Not sure the problem.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about the ownership.
The links should work if you change the "*" to "o" (it's impossible to post the word b l o g s p o t).
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2227243]I guess Brazil 1980-1991 might have been even better?[/QUOTE]I was there December 1985 to March 1986 on vacation and it was one of the best times of my life! Stayed in Rio at a local's hotel for $15/ night about six blocks from the beach. So easy to meet hot girls despite the language barrier. Hell, one carioca chick, thin but big tits, I met on Copacabana took me out dancing with two of her hot girlfriends for a night to remember. So many happy memories!
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[QUOTE=Sperto;2227243]
I guess Brazil 1980-1991 might have been even better?[/QUOTE]Rio was much more innocent in the 80's, up front money was never discussed it was like a GFE and next day or when they were leaving we would talk about a present for them usually 15 to 25 dollars. As you know the currency was the Cruzeiro and we exchanged the money in jewelry stores or bell hops and got 20 to 40 % above official rate which made everything extremely cheap. Before Help girls were spread out evenly across Ave. Atlantica, whatever hotel we were staying at all you had to do was go to the nearest cafe and there were many girls there unlike today. After Help everything seemed to be concentrated in one place or another.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2227256]Thanks for posting that, Bob. Now remind me how much it costed back then? I recall at one point in the 80's it was $50 USD for American Citizens, which was a bit of cash for a young guy in and out of college at the lower end of the wage scale. I'd be curious, what was the price range of the girls back then.[/QUOTE]$50 for the visa sounds a little high especially because it was only good for 3 months so in those days we were going to NY to the consulate several times a year to get a new Visa, so I would suspect it was about $25. Luckily as years went by they started with 5 year visa and now 10 which is great.
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[QUOTE=RioBob;2227526]Rio was much more innocent in the 80's, up front money was never discussed it was like a GFE and next day or when they were leaving we would talk about a present for them usually 15 to 25 dollars. As you know the currency was the Cruzeiro and we exchanged the money in jewelry stores or bell hops and got 20 to 40 % above official rate which made everything extremely cheap. Before Help girls were spread out evenly across Ave. Atlantica, whatever hotel we were staying at all you had to do was go to the nearest cafe and there were many girls there unlike today. After Help everything seemed to be concentrated in one place or another.
$50 for the visa sounds a little high especially because it was only good for 3 months so in those days we were going to NY to the consulate several times a year to get a new Visa, so I would suspect it was about $25. Luckily as years went by they started with 5 year visa and now 10 which is great.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying those details. I admit I was a bit confused when I first heard the term Real a while back, because the term Cruzeiro was stuck in mind from long ago. But, what where the mechanics behind an official rate and the rate locals got? Was this a scenario like the Eastern Bloc during the Cold War, where the official rate to Western currencies for the tourists was different from what a local could obtain? I understand inflation caused the currency of Brazil to change periodically in the late 20th century. But, I'm thinking the junta might have enacted some bad economic and financial policies as such regimes typically do.
Now that I think about it, the sum of $50 was likely through a third party visa service back then. Now, the consulate in NYC lists it as $160 USD for US citizens and half that for most anyone else ($180 USD if you are from Angola, one of the few other nations in the world where Portuguese is the official language, oddly enough). I found the e-visa was only $117 though that is chump change for what I expect to blow on working girls if I ever get there. But back in my early adulthood, I had traveled a bit around Western Europe for less than $10 a day, so $50 was not a small amount to me in the early 80's.
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Karma or Macumba
[QUOTE=Sperto;2227370]The governor Sergio Cabral put an end to Help in 2010.[/QUOTE]Sergio Cabral, Filho the Puta!! Karma got to him. He is currently being held at the Gericin penitentiary in Bangu, Rio de Janeiro, for corruption and money laundering. Crooked bastard is accused of embezzling more than $80 million USD. On 13 June 2017, he was sentenced to 14 years and two months. On 20 September 2017 he was sentenced to an additional 45 years imprisonment for embezzlement. However, Fa-King Brazilian law, limits sentences to 30 years actually served. All those people he put out of work, put a Macumba curse on him.
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[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2227693]But, what where the mechanics behind an official rate and the rate locals got? Was this a scenario like the Eastern Bloc during the Cold War, where the official rate to Western currencies for the tourists was different from what a local could obtain?[/QUOTE]In the early 90's, I remember that in Rio you could get the "tourist" rate that was 25-40% better than the official rate based on economic conditions and government policy. As RioBob noted, our driver took us to a jewelry store across from the old Rio Roiss Hotel for a better Cruzeiro rate. Obviously, there were currency controls designed to restrict capital leaving the country. Middle and upper class Brazilians knew how to get their rapidly deflating Cruzeiros into Dollars or hard assets like gold and jewelry. I guess that's why jewelry stores were operating in the parallel market.
The girls always wanted Dollars. I think Inflation spiked 5000% per annum before the Real was introduced in 1994. Even school children knew the Cruzeiro/Dollar exchange rate every day and what it might be tomorrow. I might have some of the details slightly wrong, but that was the basic currency situation back in the 80's and 90's.
From what understand, Brazil still has a tourist rate that has been around 4% higher (devalued Real) than the official government rate. This might why some members have reported receiving higher than the published rates at some select currency venues.