Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1516386]In October and November my DC membership was in full effect. I had several numbers of chicas to contact. However, I only contacted one from PP. She had the Mr Ed thing going on with her grill. Plus she lied about her age. Her profile said she was 29, but in person she revealed that she was 41. A total turn off. And it changed my interest in pursuing the other contacts.

So, every time I was on the ground in Sosua, there were so many chicas available, that I forgot all about the DC chicas. In Sosua the chicas were right in my face. My attraction was realized in the moment, no guess work involved. We all knew why they were there and what was expected. The DC chicas I had no clue if I would be attracted to or would want to get with them. Plus, the probability of encountering issues, like them claiming to need money for transportation or them being on or coming off the rag.

You know the saying "A bird in the hand."[/QUOTE]That's is super. Clearly it is working for you and you are happy! Unfortunately, I only like to hang with the Sosua chicas, buy them drinks, flirt, dance etc. I really do not want any Sosua hard core or experienced pros, with more than 30-60 days experience in my room. Just does not work for me. Strangely enough, sometimes I like soft pros chicas in Brasil. Otherwise I prefer puerto plata non-pros, because I do not want any ST or usually, really even a 1 nighter. So, I am definitely not the norm.

This dovetails really well with my experience with the Cupid girls and the POP non pros.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1516319]Not sure who you were seeking feedback from, but I can share a little of my experience.

I don't speak spanish fluently. I know enough spanish to get by though. When I 1st joined DC I thought it was cool corresponding back and forth with chicas for weeks and months before meeting them. Now, I find that counter-productive, and to a certain extent, kinda corny. We arent developing a relationship, so whats the point? For one, many of these chicas are communicating with several dudes all at the same time. Just like any other dating website. The only connection that counts is the one with the guy in country with her at that moment. Only when I'm there will my turn be significant. So now, when my membership is paid and I'm browsing profiles or responding to interested chicas, I send messages to chicas telling them I will be there in a week.

Give me your number and I'll call you when I get there. Just about every woman I sent that message to, left her number in my mailbox. No hesitation. I believe when they know you will be there so soon, you get moved up on the priority list. They know some bennies are just a week away. A dude still online yapping away aint getting nowhere until he gets himself down there.

When I arrive in country, if I want I will call them, and arrange a meeting. Last April it was a chica that lived in PP. I called her before I left the airport to go to Sosua. I met a taxi friend of mine at the airport and got him to translate for me. I ended up going into PP to meet her that afternoon. She was fine as hell. Took her back to Don Antonio and she was my pretend GF for about 2 months. Thats just one example. But my point is, I feel I am having more success just taking numbers and calling when I get in country, than maintaining weeks and months of meaningless chatter with women who are juggling communication with several dudes online including me.

I don't concern myself getting details straight with chicas (their expectations for $$$) before meeting them. That I can do once I meet them in person, once I realize there is mutual attraction. Ironically, often it wasnt necessary getting payment expectations out on the table. We just went with the flow. Most times things went well, all were satisfied. Other times, adjustments had to made for overly opportunistic chicas. If a Dom Cupid chica tried to get payment details on the table online or in email prior to meeting, I probably wouldn't follow through with her. I can go to Sosua for that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516202]I wonder by whose account or standard O?[/QUOTE]I've never been during the Super Bowl, but I've read some people's observations / accounts that chicas prices tend to be higher during this time. I know this is a generalization since different people travel in different circles, but I think the reference would be to the average monger in D'Latin or Rhumba.

[QUOTE=ORourke86; 1516374]I'm only concerned with what they think of me to the extent that I think it will affect the future service I will receive (from them or those they communicate with).

For me, the potential reduction in service from gifting (appearing to be weak, etc) is not enough to offset to pleasure the gifts bring me. So I give gifts.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking, I can relate to you when it comes to having a woman wear sexy lingerie. It surely can enhance some womens sex appeal. But at the same time, usually the sexy attire a woman is wearing when I meet her does it for me and then some. The rest that goes on between us, usually happens in the dark or subdued light. Moreover, if it's only ST, the chica really isn't going to be there that long, nor will she be wearing the lingerie that long for it to make that much of a difference in the overall experience. But I do understand that this is what works for you.

I get your point also, that a reduction in service from gifting (potentially appearing weak) is not enough to offset the pleasure the gifts bring you. But the problem with that sole perspective, is that a reduction in service may not be the only risk nor the worse outcome a monger may face? If a monger misjudges the impact of potentially appearing weak with the wrong chicas, he could find himself dealing with a lot more than a reduction in service. Like a chica calling some cops she knows that can set a dude up proper for extortion. Or potentially what that chica did. If anything, your incident can serve as reminder for all of us, of what can potentially happen with the wrong chica that doesn't share our pleasures / interests / motivations. And we must all be aware, in some instances a dude may not be able to buy his way instantly out of trouble.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1516413]I've never been during the Super Bowl, but I've read some people's observations / accounts that chicas prices tend to be higher during this time. I know this is a generalization since different people travel in different circles, but I think the reference would be to the average monger in D'Latin or Rhumba.[/QUOTE]The way I look at it, chicas arent like retail clothing stores where shit goes on sale and then gets marked up. In Sosua pussy is always negotiable. Come to think of it. In the past few months I haven't heard many stories of dudes complaining about chicas expecting ridiculous amounts for their services. One or two here or there, but not like it was a few months ago like it was an epidemic. If anything guys have been reporting paying on average 1000 to 2000 for ST.

If there is a sharp increase in chicas asking ridiculous amounts for SBW, hopefully they'll experience enough guys who will quickly bring them back to reality. My recollection of past SBW, I didn't have any problem with finding affordable pussy. Another consideration? A lot of fresh newbies will likely be on hand. They might try to blurt out some ridiculous amount, and they may hook a few dudes. But an experienced monger will quickly shoot that shit down. I suspect competition will be fierce. A lot of chicas will be sitting on their asses, or pacing up and down Dr Rosen looking for work, just like I witnessed in Nov and Dec. Guys are going to take advantage of that.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1516402], I only like to hang with the Sosua chicas, buy them drinks, flirt, dance etc. I really do not want any Sosua hard core or experienced pros, with more than 30-60 days experience in my room. Just does not work for me. Strangely enough, sometimes I like soft pros chicas in Brasil. Otherwise I prefer puerto plata non-pros, because I do not want any ST or usually, really even a 1 nighter. So, I am definitely not the norm.[/QUOTE]I don't think your out of the norm not wanting to deal with the Sosua hardcore pro's. I noticed quite a few guys wifing up at times, seeing the same girl multiple times, and avoiding the girls on the Strip. In my case, I was mixing it up every day or so having sleepovers and then pulling in new ones. Just a kid in a candy store!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516430]In the past few months I haven't heard many stories of dudes complaining about chicas expecting ridiculous amounts for their services. One or two here or there, but not like it was a few months ago like it was an epidemic. If anything guys have been reporting paying on average 1000 to 2000 for ST.[/QUOTE]This is consistent with my recent trip. Almost every girl I encountered could be had ST for 1500 without any real negotiating. If you are willing to negotiate, I'm sure you could beat it down to 1000, especially during the day. Some very premium night-only girls were at 2000 ST and not budging. But very rare.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516430]A lot of fresh newbies will likely be on hand. They might try to blurt out some ridiculous amount, and they may hook a few dudes. But an experienced monger will quickly shoot that shit down.[/QUOTE]Exactly. If they don't recognize you or think you might not know the ropes, of course they will ask for a lot of money. Why not? Worst case scenario: you will correct them and they will still get the going rate.

[QUOTE=ORourke86;1516374]I'm only concerned with what they think of me to the extent that I think it will affect the future service I will receive (from them or those they communicate with).[/QUOTE]I like your attitude! Do not let others put words in your mouth. Giving gifts even to a Sosua "puta" (who are hardened but just as human as we are) , does not set you up as a mark. All you are doing (other than getting the pleasure for yourself as you described, is setting her up with a positive vibe. Which translates into a better time spent together. The fact of bringing a gift, is not so much an incentive but an acknowledgement that you have thought about this person (at least in the receiver's mind) and that per se creates a positive outcome. As they say, it is not the object but the thought behind it that counts. This is not to say, that all women will react equally (very negatively according to popular fiction but I am yet to see this and I started my secret life around 1986 in land down under) or will reciprocate but you live your life according to the good karma you want to generate. Ignore the nay-sayers!

[QUOTE=Bellpepper;1516285]I took a stroll this morning and passed Passion's. I happened to meet the manager and he told me that the club will open tonight at 6 pm. Maybe this is old news for you but I have not seen anything about it in this forum.[/QUOTE]Is it open?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1516413]I've never been during the Super Bowl, but I've read some people's observations / accounts that chicas prices tend to be higher during this time. I know this is a generalization since different people travel in different circles, but I think the reference would be to the average monger in D'Latin or Rhumba.[/QUOTE]I've been to super bowl in Sosua 2 years ina row, about to make it mt 3rd in a few weeks. By far the best selection of chicas in Sosua during the year. Never experienced chicas uping their price during super bowl. If anything it is easier to negoiate becuase there is so much competion during super bowl.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1516487]By far the best selection of chicas in sosua during the year.[/QUOTE]Cool. I hope you Superbowl mongers take and post some pics of the talent.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1516462]I like your attitude! Do not let others put words in your mouth. Giving gifts even to a Sosua "puta" (who are hardened but just as human as we are) , does not set you up as a mark. All you are doing (other than getting the pleasure for yourself as you described, is setting her up with a positive vibe. Which translates into a better time spent together. The fact of bringing a gift, is not so much an incentive but an acknowledgement that you have thought about this person (at least in the receiver's mind) and that per se creates a positive outcome. As they say, it is not the object but the thought behind it that counts. This is not to say, that all women will react equally (very negatively according to popular fiction but I am yet to see this and I started my secret life around 1986 in land down under) or will reciprocate but you live your life according to the good karma you want to generate. Ignore the nay-sayers![/QUOTE]At this point I'm going to address you and ORourke68 here. 1st off the only reason you are posting is because you and your buddy Old Fool have a bug up their butt in my regard on these boards. And I'm sure thats the motivation for this type of response. I find that type of posting very cowardly. Now to the meat and potatoes.

Nobody put any words in anybodys mouth. And nobody here took the position of being a nay sayer. I don't think ORourke even took it that way. ORourkes position was acknowledged as him doing his own thing. If anything, the exchange has been productive and respectful. I don't talk to people as if they are children even if I am offering a perspective or advice. Further, throughout my exchange with ORourke I purposely prefaced my comments using words as "may" and "potentially" "possibly". Those words are powerful, because they acknowledge the possibility of being wrong, or something not applying. I leave room for error. I never intended nor do I recall trying to throw out absolutes of what is going to happen. My motivation was simply offering brotherly caution.

Whereas your response has a dual motive here. And check it. You couldn't possibly know if giving gifts even to a Sosua "puta" (who are hardened but just as human as we are) "does not set you up as a mark". How the hell could you possible know that for sure? Totally irresponsible statement. You better learn the power of the words may, possibly and potentially. Your statement had no thought at all, that was you simply trying to counter what I said. It's much wiser to always be aware of how ones actions may or potentially send the wrong message or cause the wrong type of attention. I hope you see the words may and potentially? Because we don't need to see any more exaggerations about somebody putting words in anybodies mouth, or being a nay sayer

From what I read, ORourke appears to be quite astute of realizing there are risks out there, seems to know that every chica doesn't respond to gifts the same. Next time you want to get at me, why don't you just come direct? Give me the opportunity to help you understand what you read and the spirit in which it was was given to the individual I was talking to.

ORourke, if in any way I over stepped my bounds or appeared too expressive, I meant no harm, and did not intend to discount your abilities to protect your own interest. Other than that. I hope were all good?

[QUOTE=ORourke86; 1516454]This is consistent with my recent trip. Almost every girl I encountered could be had ST for 1500 without any real negotiating. If you are willing to negotiate, I'm sure you could beat it down to 1000, especially during the day. Some very premium night-only girls were at 2000 ST and not budging. But very rare.

Exactly. If they don't recognize you or think you might not know the ropes, of course they will ask for a lot of money. Why not? Worst case scenario: you will correct them and they will still get the going rate.[/QUOTE]Consistent with my recent trip as well. Ironically, once me and a chica agree on at least 1500 as a base, I'm good. What I eventually give her when done is a whole other story. Because many of the chicas I had last trip were great, which resulted in me giving them a 500 peso propina and maybe moto money. None of them asked for a propina or expected me to give one, so the 500 peso propina was totally on me. If a chica quoted me 2000 right off the bat for ST, I would likely counter with 1500. Of course it would depend on how attracted I was to her. When done, I might be less likely to give her the 500 peso propina. But would do so if the chica was exceptional or someone I would consider special.

I do recall one newbie quoting me 3500 for ST. But it was clear the only reason she did it, was just to see if I would go for it. It's comical how a chica can go from 3500 to 1500 in 5 seconds. On the way back to your spot, it would be quite interesting getting a chica to be honest about why she quoted some ridiculously high amount.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1516400]Dunno what to say. I met over a dozen from Cupid and they were all honest and none were over 23. It is a lot of work though. I get their Facebook sites and check out all their photos and their timelines. I validate, cross- validate and look for sound of their voice, how they talk etc. Even though my spanish is barely elementary. I am also fairly proficient in reading people in general. Not a 100% success rate, but probably say 65. But it is an art though and I can't quite spell out the details of taking in individual data points and weaving them into a personality profile projection.[/QUOTE]Since I'll be in the DR for an entire month (Jan into Feb) , I may mix it up. Enjoy the hell out of Sosua. And also travel around to some neighboring towns. I still have the numbers of some DC chicas. I don't think they would hold it against me that I didn't call or follow through before. They may not even care. I know a very nice 40yr old chica from Santiago I met on DC back in August. She co owns a salon. I may surprise her with a visit. That much time in country will allow me to be more adventurous.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516660]Since I'll be in the DR for an entire month (Jan into Feb) , I may mix it up. Enjoy the hell out of Sosua. And also travel around to some neighboring towns. I still have the numbers of some DC chicas. I don't think they would hold it against me that I didn't call or follow through before. They may not even care. I know a very nice 40yr old chica from Santiago I met on DC back in August. She co owns a salon. I may surprise her with a visit. That much time in country will allow me to be more adventurous.[/QUOTE]Love to travel to some neighboring towns. What do you recommend, with a driver, cause I will not drive in the DR. Also, any towns with good accommodations, with good free wifi, good water and electricity? And of course, plenty of chicas with a small town attitude?