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[QUOTE=Mandiri]I am doing your proposed approached using the Date In Asia dating site. My concern with this approach is that I end up meeting up a gal met on-line and I don't like her (because I have not met her face to face before... I guess I can always find an excuse to "dump" her...[/QUOTE]
I am using Date in Asia and I have met some good friends. I use the "let's do lunch" as the first meeting and if it isn't right, I don't have to make a excuse. I always have to go back to work and I tell them that before we meet. If we click, I ask them to dinner.
I am going to Manila next week and I have three from DIA set up for lunch. I will report how it goes.

Only three months left here in the Philippines and I am crying already.

Robb

Let's stop all this crap about Shopping Malls. The girls are everywhere and are approachable everywhere.

If you limit your operations to Shopping Malls you are restricting your chances of success way too much.

Get on the programme , and off the bar stool , move around and be open to gestures everywhere you go , everywhere.

Cebu City is pick up Central.

Has anyone stay here before? Elegant Circle Inn?

I am trying to find a Hotel in Cebu, Budget with a Massage Parlour.

The hotel I was going to stay at has doubled in Price!

I stayed there 5 years ago more or less- Ok= Nothing special- Right on Osmena circle- Walk to Siver Dollar. Hotel had 2 sections= Old section cheaper, Also try Eddie's Tourist Hotel- (walk to Lonestar & Mango Ave bars. Have fun!

Walked by it a hundred times, its a dog with fleas.


[QUOTE=Asheron]Has anyone stay here before? Elegant Circle Inn?

I am trying to find a Hotel in Cebu, Budget with a Massage Parlour.

The hotel I was going to stay at has doubled in Price![/QUOTE]

Only once have I found worthwile p4p at a mall. Even hitting on regular girls has some risks -- not the least is that you'll often have an audience.

Of course the sales ladies have every reason to be talking to you. Those are the ones I go after.

So, Joker, care to tell us about one of your success stories? And what kind of "gestures" are you using?

X

[QUOTE=Joking]Let's stop all this crap about Shopping Malls. The girls are everywhere and are approachable everywhere.

If you limit your operations to Shopping Malls you are restricting your chances of success way too much.

Get on the programme , and off the bar stool , move around and be open to gestures everywhere you go , everywhere.

Cebu City is pick up Central.[/QUOTE]

The following is in response to Xmans comments:

Cynicism and sarcasm will get you nowhere.

Use your imagination to come up with m.o's and then your personality to execute those m.o's.

Gestures. Try smiling for starters. Rest is up to your ability to strike up a conversation. Being shy will get you nowhere.

Of course it will help if your minus a beer belly and dressed properly. Plastic thongs, T. Shirts and bar talk will not suffice.

Open your mind and the girls will open their legs.

I have had luck once with counter girl named Maricel, an 8. 5 with beautiful face and ass. Sadly she was not so great in the sack. My cousins introduced me to her after I spied her counter mate Weng. Both were working at ShoeMart in Megamall in Manila. Weng was a 9. 5! Damn near perfect! Bod and face. I wanted to meet Weng but cousins mistakenly talked to Maricel. LOL. ; (and arranged date. I am sure you can pick up these girls regardless of age if you a little charm (I am 48 and somewhat handsome; )) and if you are presentable and do not look like Quasimodo / Frankenstein. Go to the make up counter at the big stores, they tend to have the beautiful ones there. Only problem is time; (These girls tend to work 12 hour days six days a week. So you have to see them after work or they have get a few days off to see you, apparently this is not easy for them. Luvulooongtime P.S. Filipina Heart is good too for regular girls. I met J. A 7 in looks college girl but a 9. 5 in performance. Her picture she posted looked like a 9, but in person a 7. We were doing the horizontal bop within 1 hour of meeting. That young lady could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

My advice is be an alpha male. Be honest, courteous, respectful, funny, clean, dress well, and be quiet and confident. Boastfulness and loudness are a real turn-offs to pinays. In my experience the pinoys in general do not treat the women well, so if you are decent you will have to fight them off. As long as you are not an asshole, you are in.

Luvuloongtime

[QUOTE=Joking]The following is in response to Xmans comments:

Cynicism and sarcasm will get you nowhere.

Use your imagination to come up with m.o's and then your personality to execute those m.o's.

Gestures. Try smiling for starters. Rest is up to your ability to strike up a conversation. Being shy will get you nowhere.

Of course it will help if your minus a beer belly and dressed properly. Plastic thongs, T. Shirts and bar talk will not suffice.

Open your mind and the girls will open their legs.[/QUOTE]

You are right BUT there is a big but. P4P saves time! Some of us do it just for that reason. If you walk through the bars around Mango you know that almost every girl is available that night. If you are some hot shit guy that meets the ideal of the girls there more than any other guy: you will have a better time and maybe pay less. I often had 2.5 hours free time in a day that I was NOT sleeping or in the office.

Best thing was to cruise the bars for 45 minutes with extreme hawk-eyes for the most stellar lookers who'd smile back at me and not waste much time before seeing if they want a bar fine. I always liked a GF experience with them but even that was possible if I was a gentleman to them for that VERY short "get to know you" time.

Now, imagine you are the #1 hot shit guy (I was going to say Tom Cruise, but I forgot he's proby no one's "ideal") that meets the ideals of girls in malls , on walking about town, etc. OK, You have everything going for you. But if you don't have time to waste know this: you have a 50% chance you will NOT get laid. 1/2 the fucking girls that are not married are virgins! Cebu is more roman catholic than Rome! Acually, i've only been in rome for 3 days, so not so sure about that.

It is true that a lot of the time the non-pro girls knew I had a serious significant other in the US...because I had to make sure they were discreet or my employees might see me walking with them with there arm around me. But, I often told the girls I met that they should know that AT LEAST FOR NOW I am/was not marriage material.

I used to work 80 hours a week running my own company in Cebu. I met a lot of girls online and only went after the 8.5-9s. I am lucky that I am good at the Pick-up thing. BUT, the unmarried/not divorced girls will only let you play with their tities 1/2 the time. That's all. Maybe going for the girls that are separated and you don't run into this stupid virgin until marriage thing. And I think it's scummy and low life to lie in a big way to girls to get them to sleep with you-- especially if they are in a 3rd world country (if in 1st world country, it's less scummy). "My God, you could be my WIFE you are so perfect I think I will Die if I don't sleep with you tonight". The 2nd part is ok, but the 1st is scummy.

Cheers!

Ref Wander Lusters post :

"Yes , well just to clarify for others.

I was not knocking pay4play. I never mentioned it. You are now comparing pay4play with hunting for regular women.

A completely new item for discussion by anyone who is interested".

Let's drop the words bar stools and bar talk out of my posts , because I do not want to discuss pay4play as compared to regular girls , a different subject altogether.

My original idea was to debunk the theory that Shopping Malls are the panacea , for finding regular girls. It's a nonsense theory I have personally grown tired of.

Mongers should be at the ready wherever they are. Once you see the glad eye , try your luck. Rejection is part of the game. Toughen up and keep at it. The rewards are worth it.

Build up a stable of fillies. When in need , they are only a cell phone call away.

Wander Lust is right in terms of time. My point is you can fuck some regular ladies without lying to them. I spend three weeks vacation in PI so I have time to cultivate a relationship with regular women. I got lucky and met a girl of 19 through filipina heart who did not want to get married, but just fuck! Her sister threatened to kick her out and stop supporting her college education if she continued to see me; ). I even ofrered her money after one of our sessions and bless her heart she would not take it. Even when she knew I was going to see other women she told me to "have a good time. " So it is possible to get freebies with out resorting to trickery. I think WL estimate of 50% virgins jibes with my experience. My only point is you can P4P and screw some real honeys too if you have the time. Doing both makes for one fun time!

Luvulooongtime

This may be a continuation of my comments, but isn't the "response" I asked for. Although I agree with (almost) everything you say, I was hoping for a story.

You do have one, don't you?

X

[QUOTE=Joking]The following is in response to Xmans comments:

Cynicism and sarcasm will get you nowhere.

Use your imagination to come up with m.o's and then your personality to execute those m.o's.

Gestures. Try smiling for starters. Rest is up to your ability to strike up a conversation. Being shy will get you nowhere.

Of course it will help if your minus a beer belly and dressed properly. Plastic thongs, T. Shirts and bar talk will not suffice.

Open your mind and the girls will open their legs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luvulooongtime]Wander Lust is right in terms of time. My point is you can fuck some regular ladies without lying to them. I spend three weeks vacation in PI so I have time to cultivate a relationship with regular women. I got lucky and met a girl of 19 through filipina heart who did not want to get married, but just fuck! Her sister threatened to kick her out and stop supporting her college education if she continued to see me; ). I even ofrered her money after one of our sessions and bless her heart she would not take it. Even when she knew I was going to see other women she told me to "have a good time. " So it is possible to get freebies with out resorting to trickery. I think WL estimate of 50% virgins jibes with my experience. My only point is you can P4P and screw some real honeys too if you have the time. Doing both makes for one fun time!

Luvulooongtime[/QUOTE]

Joking and Luvulooongtime,

I agree pretty much entirely with what you both of you. Really is two different situations. As for my %50, I should have noted that this is really more true for girls that intend to get 2 years education after high school. If they are from a poor or relatively poor family then the idea of saving virginity is usually not as much a part of the "culture" of people like them in Cebu.

Saving virginity for marriage is pisses me off to know end-- especially for the girls' sake. Funny thing is it's the "more educated" classes or groups that want to go by that rule even though a girl might not mary until age 27.