Moscow

Phasar

Thanks for your report. But after 2 years in Moscow, do people always need to call an escort? I mean it is not much more easier to find enough "normal" girls contacts to call than escort?

[QUOTE=Toptraveler1]Phasar

Thanks for your report. But after 2 years in Moscow, do people always need to call an escort? I mean it is not much more easier to find enough "normal" girls contacts to call than escort?[/QUOTE]

Sex with escorts is like Chinese food. Sure you can take time to prepare a proper meal, but sometimes it's just more convenient to pick the up the phone and order a little "take out".

[QUOTE=Phasar]After 2 years of living in Moscow, here are some of my personal observations, feel free to disagree.

-- If you don't speak the language you'll end up spending a truckload of money on average service. Even the freebees will cost you a lot of money in clothes, cafe and restaurant fees. The hot looking Russian girls quickly turn cold and sour like the icecream and sour cream they constantly eat when the money/presents don't flow quickly enough. Always remember this place is only about money, money and money.

-- Sites like rusdosug, intimcity combined with the reports on sextalk are your best guides. Don't believe the girls that claim they speak English, most really don't. Again try to get as quikly as possible some basic Russian skills. Most of the girls I've done were from those 2 sites (about 2 per week).


-- The more expensive, the worse, if you're staying in the 2000 to 3500 RUR per hour range you have the best changes, avoid the ones looking like stunning models, it's just not worth the money.

-- Don't be intimidated, I've never had any bad experience at the appartments. Places are not always spotless and if you've never been in a soviet place it will be an experience.
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I fully agree with that.

[QUOTE=Passepartout]Guys: I need your help.

We would like (me and my friend) to find a girl for the whole night, open to everything if I can say (including DP).

Budget that we have for that plan is 600 euro.

How would you find the girl in Moscow with that kind of budget? Do you think it is possible?[/QUOTE]


Here is my report, as members were Keen to help me in my quest.


Well, we failed to find what we wanted - DP.

We went to NF, and after 1 hours and a half of hard and disappointed negotiations (girls seems to be horrified when you say that yu expect anal...); we finally met a stuning blonde girl, model like.
My friend was for the first time in Moscow couldn't believe that he could fuck such a beautiful girl in his life... by the way, she was quite friendly, good sense of humour, and seems very interested to go with 2 guys.
So we paid each of us 12 000 rubles, and went to my apartment for a 2 hpurs perfect session (GFE, analingus, uncovered BJ, etc...).
It was a nice party with good music, french champagne and an amawing ukrainian beauty. Only missing was the anal touch If I can say.

Probably next time, in order to get a DP, we will look for a less beautiful girl who will be pleased to do that for such money.


A very surprising thing is that I have done a DP for only 150 euros 8 days later in Paris, as a friend of mine met an occasional worker who accepts everything! (and she is pretty too!!).

[QUOTE=Passepartout]....Only missing was the anal touch If I can say.....[/QUOTE]

I agree 110% with you. Sex without anal is as a beach in front of ocean without girls in bikini...useless ;)

However very "funny" and strange, that in NF, with such prices..., girls are not into anal too....too bad :)

Phasar,

OK, I have a question...

You say you have been living in Moscow for 2 years and it seems that you know your way around and have a fair amount of experience with apartments and salons, and yet this is only your 2nd post on the Moscow board.

почему???

I agree with everything you've said, the 3 most important things any Moscow hobbyist can do is to:

1. Learn a little Russian
2. Learn a little Russian
3. Learn a little Russian

It will expand your horizons immensely, and keep you out of Night Flight (24,000r!!!! geez, Louise, guys, you could get laid for a week with that kind of money).

I have some suggestions to add to your apartment guide...

Pick a name for yourself when you call the girl; Dima, Yuri, Sasha, etc. It helps the girls to sort you out from everyone else. This way, when you arrive at the podyezd, you can say "Eta Yuri". Saying "it's me" could be a little confusing. This is particularly true if you are talking to a dispatcher, who may be scheduling several different guys for different girls at the same time.

Instead of giving them a specific time, which can lead to confusion, the simplest thing to say is simply "boodoo tahm.. cherez chas" (I will be there in an hour), or "cherez dva chasah" (in 2 hours), or "cherez pohlchasah" (in a half hour). In most of these places the girls don't watch the clock that closely, the chances of them being ready to receive you at precisely 2:45pm are pretty slim.

The hierarchy of Russian addresses is:

metroh (subway station, many times they will tell you to go to a certain subway station and then call from there)
ulitsah (street)
dohm (house/building)
korpus (in the old Soviet bauhaus complexes, there may be many different buildings that make up a single dohm, they are identified by korpus number)
podyezd (an entrance, the same building may have several entrances, each one is numbered)

Some additional helpful Russian phrases:

gdyea ti na-HOAD-ish-cyah? (where are you located?)
and the most important word any monger should know, ckoil'kah? (how much?)
One that I have found helpful is, ckoil'kah plyoos za ah-NAHL (how much (more) for anal?)

I'm not sure what Jackson has against Russian mongers, but it's unfortunate that he refuses to give us even just a single thread for the Russian Language. One of things we could do would be to have scripts for guys who want to try the apartments and salons. It would be an invaluable resource not only for the guys in Moscow, but anywhere in FSU and most of Eastern Europe.

всего доброго

[QUOTE=Guido88]Rum Coke

Perhaps you need a tad more experience before you make blanket statements. I have never had girls-students send anything other than what I ordered. The people I have referred to them have overall been quite happy with the service.

Your assumption that all the photos on girls-students.ru is incorrect. There are a couple of girls shown who are pro models. Maybe they are working or not. To call the site a fake is BS.

Guido88[/QUOTE]Sorry to refute your statement Guido88, but I can identify at least one fake profile on the girls-students.ru site from personal experience. Look at [url]http://www.girls-students.ru/galery.php?id=314[/url] . This is a photo of an escort who worked in Prague in 2004 when I visited. She's a professional model from Vrchlabí, Czech Republic. She had a short-lived career as an escort in late 2003/early 2004, before she returned to modeling full time. I know, because I was one of her clients :-). Here is her modeling page: [url]http://www.profi-models.com/MODS/mi_hyl.html[/url]

You can see what remains of her outdated profile from the Services Prague escort agency website on archive.org: [url]http://web.archive.org/web/20040214020446/www.servicesprague.com/michelle/[/url]

You'll see it's the same person.

I doubt that a fashion model from the Czech Republic moved to Moscow to be an escort. Especially when she was a successful fashion model, spoke impeccable English, had great reviews, and--even in 2003/2004--commanded EUR 1200 per day. Today her rate would be EUR1800-2000 if she were still working.

This profile is obviously fake.

Hi Gents,

If you used girls-students, moscow-students, beauties-students or similar lately what were the prices? Did the girls have good attitudes?

Thanks for your time.

Al

170cm is a bit short to be a successful fashion model and I have yet to ever meet a girl who didn't lie about her height/weight. More then likely she left escorting because she found a sugar daddy or two. Since she was at her height (pun intended) 5 years ago she would be at the twilight of her 'modeling' career. Where else would she be besides Moscow or Dubai? :)

Not to say I would trust the photo's on an internet site and even more specifically a FSU website.

Shelbysbaker - answer to your report - yes there are many fake photos on these site. Hopefully you weren't born yesterday and realize that MANY of these sites have old fake photos to "hook" the hungry monger. Hope you are wise when calling these sites to tell the operator in no uncertain terms that if the girls does not look like the picture you'll send her packing.
Reading past reports from Guido88 I did sample the talent from this site during past trips. I told them my terms and requirements and they sent me what I wanted. Nice slim 24yo eager blonde - liked her so much called her back for three evenings.

Al Gonkin - the general "normal" rate is approx US$100 per hour -or used to be.

Enjoy and stay safe

Shelbysbaker

Lets see now. Your 1st post and have shared nothing of value yet quick to critique.

Been to Moscow or used girls-students?

Any idea WTF you are talking about?

My point was that overall the several mongers I know who have used the site have been quite happy with it.

My experience with the site was all-positive and some of the best experiences I had in several Moscow trips. I have always gotten what I ordered and can only report good experiences. YMMV

I was one of the first to point out inconsistencies with some photos. Definite possibility they are padding the pics.

To the mongers that believe somehow there is a magical website, salon, Tochka, *****house anywhere in the world that things are always perfect I make the following suggestion.

Grow up; you are dealing with money and women. Two of the most inconsistent problematic entities on this earth. Hustles are unavoidable; there is no Nirvana or perfection on this earth.

Russia for me is the best I have found in many respects. Nowhere else I would rather go.

With that said even the simplest things can be difficult and the Russian people can be fairly aggressive in their pursuit of a better life.

All part of the fun.

Its up to the monger to use his resources and brains to get the best value and pussy he can. Those with a little street smarts do extremely well, a small percentage can not seem to get laid in pussy heaven no matter what.

Oh Well

Guido88

Passepartout

No No

Tell me you did not pay 24,000 rubles for a piece of ass in Moscow.

Got to be a typo error.

If true she is still laughing so hard she will not be able to work for months.


Guido88

Passepartout

If you are looking for anal with great looking women (Almost Russia quality) you might consider Montreal or Quebec.

BBJ, CIF, CIM, and Anal for a small up charge are easily available. Pricing in euros is around 250 euros for a couple of hours. Some girls will do PSE ( Porn Star Experience) with no boundaries. Hell some are Porn stars.

Eleganza or Devilish both have a good selection of girls who will do as requested.

So far my experience has been great attitudes and the French Canadian are nasty by nature.

Not a bad one yet.

If you want more info send me a PM. Happy to help.

Guido88

So we re coming to Moscow 17/21 july,
some one of you will be in town?
would be nice to hang out for a beer or two

[QUOTE=Guido88]Passepartout

No No

Tell me you did not pay 24,000 rubles for a piece of ass in Moscow.

Got to be a typo error.

If true she is still laughing so hard she will not be able to work for months.


Guido88[/QUOTE]



Unfortunatly, I confirm that this is the sum we have paid.

I perfectly know that it makes no sense, and I would never do it alone. My friend was visiting me for 3 days. First tieme mongering experience for him. He told me " I will probably not repeat this experience. So bring me the most beautiful girl in town, whatever the price is."

So we went for NF and overpaid clearly.

One other good places to meet russian girls open for everything for a small fee (150 euro for the night) is Bangkok. In the night club o fthe Novotel, there is always 10 russian girls waiting for you. As thai prices are very low; they only ask for 150 euros for the full night with all options.