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Lucifer'so appeared closed Friday night when I walked by though perhas it was too early. However, it was in full swing when I walked by last night. The band sounded good so might try another night this week. Thanks for tip.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1859844]Lucifer is a shadow of its old self. The back is closed (some say for remodeling). Since the owner opened 808 nobody goes to Lucifer anymore.[/QUOTE]
First stop was IBAR last night but as in the prior evening, very little eye contact. Left around 12:30 and went into Windmills, a rather sleazy gogo off WS. All nude place and place was packed, barely a seat to be found, but can't say I am impressed by quality of girls or establishment.
Seriously considered calling it an evening but decided to drop in Red Car, which is near entry to WS. Quite a few pax in there and lots of girls. Nothing happened for a while but an interesting girl caught my eye. She was dressed casually wearing a sort of Daisy Mae type shirt tied above her navel and tight blue jeans. I prefer girls in casual dress as it sometimes indicates possible non pro. Many of the girls in here dressed well and provacative way.
This girl did not have a real classic Thai look and it turned out it was because she was not Thai at all but Iranian / Singapore mix (countries have been changed to protect the innocent). Fluent English but also spoke Russian, Chinese, and, of course, Farsi. Very well traveled too. Suspect it is with sponsor(s) or as high end FL.
We were goofing around dancing for 1/2 hour and finally said she had to leave as needed to sleep due to early departure. Said she was traveling / passing through but had been there before since she knew some of staff. I was disappointed but was ready to roll with it.
Then as she was leaving, she invited me to join her at another club on WS but we could not get in as she did not have her ID. We went to another club down WS on the corner with a guitar sticking off roof. Danced some more. Asked her to come with me to my apartment but she said she was too expensive dampening any hopes I had of a miraculous freebie in Pattaya. LOL.
That place was closing so went to an Iranian owned bar down a side street. Surprisingly happening with locals and Iranians. About 3am now. She started dirty dancing while I sat. She was petite but had a perfect round and non Thai ass plus nice ample breasts.
So she tells me her price: 10,000 baht. I laugh and say you are correct and you are expensive, told her that's a Singapore price. How about Pty discount, I ask. After several minutes of dancing and kissing, she lowers her price to 6,000. I say sorry but still not happening. She asks me price I would pay and I said 3000 max. End of discussion so I figure evening with her is over.
We stumble down Soi looking for transport to our respective accommodations. After several false starts, she is in songtaew with me. Next thing I know, she gets off truck with me at my apartment. Don't recall any convo where she changed her mind but whatever.
Now in apartment, we chat for a while and after a bit, she reconfirms price of 3 k baht and game on. Took nice shower with her, and got the perfect GFE plus what a lover this girl was. Obviously experienced and talented. Amazing 24 yo body with nice shaved and moist pussy. At first she resisted DATY but then went all in on my second recon. attempt. Finished me off with partial CIM after long and leisurely bang. When she left, she called me her sweet dirty old man in a jocular way. Never exchanged contact info as she did not seem interested and was leaving for BKK today anyway.
She also says that she likes sex but not just to bang indiscriminately and had turned down some guys earlier in evening. Clearly one of my most memorable girls of this or any Thai trip. More than I usually pay but no regrets with this one
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1859933]We stumble down Soi looking for transport to our respective accommodations. After several false starts, she is in songtaew with me. Next thing I know, she gets off truck with me at my apartment. Don't recall any convo where she changed her mind but whatever.[/QUOTE]Typical. Pattaya. Saturday night. 2 am. You just never know what's going to happen next.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1859916]Lucifer'so appeared closed Friday night when I walked by though perhas it was too early. However, it was in full swing when I walked by last night. The band sounded good so might try another night this week. Thanks for tip.[/QUOTE]Lucifer had two bands, a modest one for the front and the Americans for the back which is much larger. I can't imagine them reduced to the front now, they had a lot of public, doing sexy contests, etc. But everything changes, even the best goes, Hollywood in Patong is now closed!
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1859933]First stop was IBAR last night but as in the prior evening, very little eye contact. [/QUOTE]T, why do you keep worrying about eye contact? You are there; they are there. Just go up and talk to the ones you like. Even non-pro girlfriends that I have met in the discos were never eyeing me. I saw them and liked them and went up to talk to them. If I waited for eye contact I would never have anybody.
Your right as I thought about that after my first night there. Its prob because at certain venues in Bangkok all you get is eye contact. In fact, if you exchange glances, they try to get on you whether you like it or not. So, I am getting lazy. I thought that I need to be a bit more aggressive at the Ibar especially, but the great thing about Thailand is you can still get what you want, as happened to me last night, without barely lifting a finger (or eyebrow).
However, that being said, some of the hotter ladies in Ibar are quite discriminating themselves and might blow you off because they don't like the cut of your gib, your age, or they just feel like being difficult. Frankly, it seems like a tough crowd in there when it comes to the real hotties. I saw guys younger than me getting blown off there though it did not happen to me.
In short, eye contact reduces, though it does not eliminate, your chances of rejection. I don't like it when I get rejected under any circumstance because it reduces my sense of impregnability. 555 / LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1860110]T, why do you keep worrying about eye contact? You are there; they are there. Just go up and talk to the ones you like. Even non-pro girlfriends that I have met in the discos were never eyeing me. I saw them and liked them and went up to talk to them. If I waited for eye contact I would never have anybody.[/QUOTE]
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However, that being said, some of the hotter ladies in Ibar are quite discriminating themselves and might blow you off because they don't like the cut of your gib, your age, or they just feel like being difficult. Frankly, it seems like a tough crowd in there when it comes to the real hotties. I saw guys younger than me getting blown off there though it did not happen to me.
In short, eye contact reduces, though it does not eliminate, your chances of rejection. I don't like it when I get rejected under any circumstance because it reduces my sense of impregnability. 555 / LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, it happens and for various reasons, beside what you said it can be that the ladies know about a guy's attitude, that is if he's into paying or not, or of the "wrong" nationality.
It must be said that Ibar is not a easy field for evergreen players. Ladies there feels they have the upper hand being in "best" bar (go figure), and are picky or just act strange. Which is an Asian way to say no.
However if one wants to play on an even level he must act. Of course it makes no sense with women that do ugly faces or gestures for the onset.
What I do is to observe a little, smile a little, then move into or move on. Works for me.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1860150]Your right as I thought about that after my first night there. Its prob because at certain venues in Bangkok all you get is eye contact.[/QUOTE]It reminds me of a buddy of mine, another board member who frequents Dominican Republic. When he came to Thailand he was all bent out of shape because the women in Thailand do not approach the men as the hookers do in DR. To him that meant they were not interested. I said man just go up and talk to them. He was like no fuck that. They need to come to me. Okay. Well more than likely you will keep a dry dick if that is the way it has to be.
As far as the guys getting blown off you have to realize that it is a mixed crowd in the disco these days. There are chicks who are just out to drink and have fun with their friends (from whom you can be rejected, but also score freebies) and chicks out to supplement their income. So if you are rejecred by one just simply move on to the next. Sure bets are women who are alone or with only 1 other girl, and women who are only drinking beer or Breezers. A lot of the women with bottles of liquor and smoking hookahs are just out for fun with friends. The former will be ready to leave with you ASAP.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1859933] Nothing happened for a while but an interesting girl caught my eye. She was dressed casually wearing a sort of Daisy Mae type shirt tied above her navel and tight blue jeans. I prefer girls in casual dress as it sometimes indicates possible non pro. Many of the girls in here dressed well and provacative way.
This girl did not have a real classic Thai look and it turned out it was because she was not Thai at all but Iranian / Singapore mix (countries have been changed to protect the innocent). Fluent English but also spoke Russian, Chinese, and, of course, Farsi. Very well traveled too. Suspect it is with sponsor(s) or as high end FL.
[/QUOTE]Great score, definitely got yourself a great deal with a real looker. Could you imagine what that would have set you back in another country. I love Bangkok Beat too. I have to say, for a 67 y/o, you are definitely setting the bar high for anyone half your age. Be safe and keep those stories coming.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1860150]Your right as I thought about that after my first night there. Its prob because at certain venues in Bangkok all you get is eye contact. In fact, if you exchange glances, they try to get on you whether you like it or not. So, I am getting lazy. I thought that I need to be a bit more aggressive at the Ibar especially, but the great thing about Thailand is you can still get what you want, as happened to me last night, without barely lifting a finger (or eyebrow).
However, that being said, some of the hotter ladies in Ibar are quite discriminating themselves and might blow you off because they don't like the cut of your gib, your age, or they just feel like being difficult. Frankly, it seems like a tough crowd in there when it comes to the real hotties. I saw guys younger than me getting blown off there though it did not happen to me.[/QUOTE]You reminded me of my experience in IBar. Let me put it in detail.
It was my first night in Pattaya in fact it was my first in Thailand. I entered IBar with the hope of getting a nice girl for a first timer like me. I was ready to pay 4 k for a real stunner. I entered around 10:30 and till 11:00 o'clock nothing happened. And I definitely can say that there are some no-pro girls go there for partying.
Around 11:15 I moved towards beach side of bar. Few girls gave me nice approachable glances but I was not interested. At last after 15-20 minutes of wait a nice cute looks at me, I already have seen this lady from backside but after seeing her face I felt an attraction from inside. Our eyes matched and soon I moved to her seat. I politely ask whether I can have a seat with her and she says yes. Next we started our conversation with a "Hi".
After few minutes of waiting I asked her if she was interested to come with me and we settled for 2.7 k. Meanwhile She said me she was 20 and all other regular stuff. Her body was definitely slim which was proved right back in hotel. After approx 15-20 minutes we started for hotel.
The experience back in hotel was real good which resulted me repeating her multiple times.
So yes if I consider my experience and your age, then you might get less eye contact than younger crowd when it comes to stunner. Like Mr. E said it's best to approach girls from your side whom you like and forget about eye contact. Regular / part time hookers come mostly with friends. Happy hunting.
In the end, most of us end up doing what works for us with the least brain damage. On several visits to Ibar, both this winter and last, I felt Ibar was not for me. As Clint Eastwood said 'a man has to know his limitations'.
However, last winter I went to Red Car and found a real hottie and wild one. A few nights ago, I visited again and had the same success. It's not my favorite venue as I hate the loud music but pop in ear plugs to mitigate the noise. But it is a more intimate setting than IBAR and the girls appear friendlier, at least with me. IBAR, as others have noted, draws a wide spectrum of girls including, apparently, non-pros, who by their very nature are less inclined to go with any punter in the vicinity. To each his own.
On a similar subject, I took a stroll on Beach Road last evening around sunset and saw clusters of girls in different areas but sadly no real lookers. Fairly sad bunch imo. I think one has to have exquisite timing to fInd something decent on BR. Either that or beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.
In the end, most of us end up doing what works for us with the least brain damage. On several visits to Ibar, both this winter and last, I felt Ibar was not for me. As Clint Eastwood said 'a man has to know his limitations'.
However, last winter I went to Red Car and found a real hottie and wild one. A few nights ago, I visited again and had the same success. It's not my favorite venue as I hate the loud music but pop in ear plugs to mitigate the noise. But it is a more intimate setting than IBAR and the girls appear friendlier, at least with me. IBAR, as others have noted, draws a wide spectrum of girls including, apparently, non-pros, who by their very nature are less inclined to go with any punter in the vicinity. To each his own.
On a similar subject, I took a stroll on Beach Road last evening around sunset and saw clusters of girls in different areas but sadly no real lookers. Fairly sad bunch imo. I think one has to have exquisite timing to fInd something decent on BR. Either that or beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.
[QUOTE=OrangeCrust;1860207]Great score, definitely got yourself a great deal with a real looker. Could you imagine what that would have set you back in another country. I love Bangkok Beat too. I have to say, for a 67 y/o, you are definitely setting the bar high for anyone half your age. Be safe and keep those stories coming.[/QUOTE]Honestly, it does not matter what it would set you back in your home or another country. This is Thailand and the only thing you need to keep in mind is the cost of things here and what local salaries are.
By the time I got into town it was fairly late. I wanted to head to WS to take it all in. I figured I wanted a nude bar so I went to WindMill. It was as described. Nude women simulating sex on stage, others dancing. No one really caught my eye. Maybe one or two, but that place is so small it's just uncomfortable. I noticed a sign that said they own SugarBaby as well. So I thought I'd try it. It's bigger, which is great for me because I hate being right up at the stage. I saw a few girls that grabbed my attention. 24,36, 44,57. I went w / 24. After some drinks and groping of course. She was pretty. Took her to my place. She was fun in bed. She's had a kid, she has the scar to prove it. I wish I would have known that. It's not horrible looking, but I just like my girls baby-free. At the bar she told me 2 hours. And I could cum up to 3 times. I thought about taking her up on it, but the second one took forever, so a 3rd was not happening. We fucked for like 45 minutes the second time before I just had to finish myself off on her chest. She gave great head and was fun in almost every position. After that it was 2 AM and I just wanted food and to sleep. I walked over to Bronx Pizza and grabbed 3 slices to go. Brought them to LK Empress and ate then crashed.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1860337]Honestly, it does not matter what it would set you back in your home or another country. This is Thailand and the only thing you need to keep in mind is the cost of things here and what local salaries are.[/QUOTE]Even in Thailand, 3 K is nothing out of the ordinary for a woman that is worth it (in the eye of the customer). Even local guys pay that.