American Politics

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3026002]"Hi all,

The culture war shifted significantly in the last two weeks. First, we had the senseless murder of Iryna Zarutska by a man who had been let out of prison multiple times. Then, yesterday, the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, who was killed while bringing free speech to college campuses. I tweeted my thoughts on both incidents, and rather than write an article, I will post them here in the order they were posted.

The brutal murder of a Ukrainian woman, Iryna Zarutska, in our streets isn't just a headline the media chose to bury it's the deadly fruit of liberation ideology, born in the late 1960's. For decades, this toxic framework taught the weak-minded that all their struggles, failures, and pains stem from an eternal oppressor: the whites.[/QUOTE][URL]https://live-national-review-wordpress.pantheonsite.io/corner/horror-in-queens/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=fourth[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3026002]"Hi all,

The culture war shifted significantly in the last two weeks. First, we had the senseless murder of Iryna Zarutska by a man who had been let out of prison multiple times. Then, yesterday, the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, who was killed while bringing free speech to college campuses. I tweeted my thoughts on both incidents, and rather than write an article, I will post them here in the order they were posted.

The brutal murder of a Ukrainian woman, Iryna Zarutska, in our streets isn't just a headline the media chose to bury it's the deadly fruit of liberation ideology, born in the late 1960's. For decades, this toxic framework taught the weak-minded that all their struggles, failures, and pains stem from an eternal oppressor: the whites..[/QUOTE]Here we go again! It's all about the left and nothing about the right! No, MAGA hasn't done anything to contribute to the current dangerous environment has it? You focus on only the murders that you believe support your one-sided diatribe. What about the others? Shouldn't all political violence be condemned? Shouldn't all innocent loss of life be mourned? Why weren't flags lowered to half staff for the slain Minnesotans? The American experiment is in crisis, and MAGA has been front and center in moving this country in the wrong direction along a continuum. We have to find common ground. But that can't happen if either side won't be intellectually honest. That means acting with integrity and accepting inconvenient truths. Here's an example. I agree with Kirk that African-Americans should not receive reparations. But not for the intellectually dishonest reason that I heard him give (because nothing bad ever happened to black people in this country). Are you for real? That's complete and total and utter bullshit! Intellectual dishonesty beyond comprehension. How can you find common ground with either side spouting utter rubbish like that? You can't! And until it stops and people get ready to start getting real, then this is where we are. And this is where we will remain. Or worse! What happened to Charlie was cruel and heinous. But it's not a reason to stop telling the truth. And it's not a justification to continue speaking with intellectual dishonesty about the problems we face. Donald Trump and his followers are trampling on the Constitution. Is he der Fuhrer? No. But he does display dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies. MAGA is absolutely a significant part of the problem. It's not just "the left". And anyone who can't see that? I hold they too are also a part of the problem! Anyone trying to score political points behind this. Just despicable and disgusting!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3026012][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlIvH6ozvv4[/URL]

I recommend some of you watch this if your celebrating the cowardly murder of Charlie Kirk.[/QUOTE]Great video! I hope some here are taking notes.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3025988]Is this MDS1, claiming victimhood?

Yeah, NO! ...Allow me to set the record straight!

That would be YOUR sycophant VP, JD Vance who coined the phrase, and called your Fuhrer, the "America's Hitler"! So you can thank JD Vance for that! Besides, our own MDS1, thinks of it, as a term of endearment.[/QUOTE]So setting the record straight is your saying two wrongs make a right, and you are not responsible for your rhetoric? Got it!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3025988]And while your at it, don't be a sucker, and wise up to the MAGA criminal element, that is so rampant, currently in the White House.[/QUOTE]And here we go again. You are literally calling for Trump being assassinated. This is the problem with you Democratic douches. You keep saying we would be in nirvana if only Trump were dead.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3025988]While it's true, there maybe American Nazis, that are followers and/or are members of your Fuhrer's QAnon/MAGA political
when did I call MAGA suckers/cultists...Nazis?[/QUOTE]LOL. You demonize the fuck out of Republicans, call us every name in the book, including cultists following the Fuhrer, and you want credit for not calling us nazis? I think that says it all about you.

I have been very clear that my use of the term Democratic douche does not apply to people who vote Democrat because they like a candidate or the Democrats position on the issues, but people who blindly follow the Democrats no matter what they do or say including their preaching hate.

If you had one spec of rationality in that pea brain of yours, you would use this as a wake up call and turn down the name calling and the hate. But this last post just showed us you live for the hate.

I repeat, this is the Democratic training video, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNr8Pf1QkY[/URL].

The people cheering, the ones going mad for this stupid, grotesque, and unimaginative putdown are who you Democratic douches are. You and Tooms would literally be cheering like everyone else if you were there.

Of course, youtube has not taken that down. Censorship is reserved only for Republicans. This video is of great value to Democratic douches.

And if you are a crazed and confused Tranny or a mentally ill black homeless person, and you want to be immortalized and loved and cheered like Deniro was, the message is clear, kill Trump, kill Kirk, or kill any white person.

That is not a conspiracy theory. Hell, you douches are proud of your fucked up beliefs.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3026066]The radical left. The reactionary right. The deranged lunatic. It's a powder keg mix right now. And you're right. But the question is why? Why is it that business can't get done anymore? I suggest because there's no longer any agreement on the rules. How about we start with this one? The Constitution is the law of the land. And we swear allegiance to the law of the land. Not to any one man or party, but to the law of the land. The Constitution of the United States! We swear allegiance to [B]it[/B] and conduct our actions accordingly, not with lying and gaslighting, but with intellectual honesty and integrity. How about that as a starting point for the rules to be followed? Is that too much to ask? Too much to expect?[/QUOTE]Cane, because of the Democrats belief on illegal immigration, we cannot even agree who our citizens are. Democratic douches are so fucked in the head that they think people illegally entering the country and illegally working here have Constitutional rights. Well, they do not. They have the right to be treated humanely, and that is about it.

And fuck all that shit about they are so hard working crap. Those illegals screw over those who need a living wage and the legal immigrants. If we need immigrants, we should let them come in legally. I am 100% for expanded legal immigration and a type of amnesty program but no voting until you are a citizen. No, the real reason the Democrats are so pro-illegal is that the illegals vote illegally and vote Democrat when they do.

I do not have a problem with expanded time for elections. Voting does not have to be one day, but Republicans want paper ballots, voter ID laws, and no illegals voting. Quite frankly, if you are not for those laws, then you are for cheating in the voting.

Let's be honest about that. Biden let the illegals come in. He lied about not doing it and then pretended he was powerless to stop it.

Democrats cannot even agree that people who entered the country illegally are illegal aliens. For them, they preach rule of law only when it comes to laws they agree with.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3026099]Here we go again! It's all about the left and nothing about the right! No, MAGA hasn't done anything to contribute to the current dangerous environment has it? You focus on only the murders that you believe support your one-sided diatribe. What about the others? Shouldn't all political violence be condemned? Shouldn't all innocent loss of life be mourned? Why weren't flags lowered to half staff for the slain Minnesotans? The American experiment is in crisis, and MAGA has been front and center in moving this country in the wrong direction along a continuum. We have to find common ground. But that can't happen if either side won't be intellectually honest. That means acting with integrity and accepting inconvenient truths. Here's an example. I agree with Kirk that African-Americans should not receive reparations. But not for the intellectually dishonest reason that I heard him give (because nothing bad ever happened to black people in this country). Are you for real? That's complete and total and utter bullshit! Intellectual dishonesty beyond comprehension. How can you find common ground with either side spouting utter rubbish like that? You can't! And until it stops and people get ready to start getting real, then this is where we are. And this is where we will remain. Or worse! What happened to Charlie was cruel and heinous. But it's not a reason to stop telling the truth. And it's not a justification to continue speaking with intellectual dishonesty about the problems we face. Donald Trump and his followers are trampling on the Constitution.( (See below) Is he der Fuhrer? No. But he does display dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies.[/QUOTE]You know nothing about human history.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3025975]Well it's clear that doing the same thing over and over and expecting something different to happen is no solution. That's one definition of insanity. Rarely is there a clear solution to difficult problems. But courageous people understand they have to act to bring about change. I don't think getting rid of access to all guns is the solution, and I don't know of any sensible person who proposes that. But there needs to be some sensible regulations put into place. The United States, the supposed world leader, is the only country in the world with a gun violence problem of this nature. We're leading in the wrong category here. Continued prayer for the family then hearing about the next round of shootings the next day is not a viable option. It's never been one. Doing something is better than doing nothing at this point. The 2nd amendment is not absolute, just like any other right in the Bill of Rights, and subject to regulation just like any other right. That's my view of it. I've been sick of this since Columbine. Think of how long ago that was. Enough is enough![/QUOTE]You make some good points I agree with. But what is the solution? How do you fix it? What "something" should be done?

Imagine you had dozens of people in your life who you loved dearly. Family, friends, wife, parents, children, whatever. Now imagine a group of 1000 people who hated you and everyone you love and 100 of those people who hate you are directly responsible for killing, kidnapping, and torturing several of the people you love. Only 100 of the 1000 are directly responsible for this, but the 1000 all hate you and some of their children will try to kill the people you love in future generations. Here is your choice, kill all 1000 people and save everyone you love or continue to allow the people you love to be killed, kidnapped, and tortured. What would you do? That is a hard question, but someone who decides to kill to protect their family is not some one I would automatically call evil and label a villain. Charlie Kirk was not a bad person in the slightest for supporting Israel. Unless you are Israeli or Palestinian, it is very hard to pass judgement on this. You must live there to truly understand what is going on. For most of history this questioned has been answered with war and the stronger people eliminate the people who threaten them. I am not saying that is the right thing to do, I am just stating what has historically happened.

Charlie kirk was not an evil person just because he supported Israel. Charlie Kirk was a brave and intelligent man who gave his life for the things he believed in. He constantly advocated for peaceful debate and there is too much slander on his name.

My biggest question during this whole war is why do these Arab Muslim nations who care so much about Palestine not allow them to enter their countries? Egypt? Iran? Iraq? Why do they not save their Muslim brothers and their children? Why watch them be forced from their homes and bombed and killed and mutilated? My guess is they want conflict and they hate Israel so much they would rather watch their fellow Muslims die and lose their land than bow down to the people they hate, the Israelis. I think this is horrible and cruel by the Muslim nations. I know if it were me, in a heartbeat I would take them in as refugees. Sickening no Muslim nations will let them enter their countries to save them.

I think people who rejoice that Charlie Kirk was assassinated are sick and weak and I don't value them as people. Political violence should be condemned on both sides.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;3025986]Americans have come to accept that school shootings and political hits are a necessary price to insure freedom and the continuation of the Second Amendment without any changes.[/QUOTE]Beijing, its not that simple. If I could snap my fingers and make all guns in the USA disappear, I would in a second. There are so many guns in the USA it would be impossible at this point to make them illegal. This is a country of 330 million plus probably 20 million illegal immigrants, 350 million total. Your not getting 350 million people to give up their guns, no chance. I don't have an answer or have heard of anyone who has proposed a realistic solution, but I sure wish I had one. What do you suggest the USA do?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3026099]Here we go again! It's all about the left and nothing about the right! No, MAGA hasn't done anything to contribute to the current dangerous environment has it? You focus on only the murders that you believe support your one-sided diatribe. What about the others? Shouldn't all political violence be condemned? Shouldn't all innocent loss of life be mourned? Why weren't flags lowered to half staff for the slain Minnesotans? The American experiment is in crisis, and MAGA has been front and center in moving this country in the wrong direction along a continuum. We have to find common ground. But that can't happen if either side won't be intellectually honest. That means acting with integrity and accepting inconvenient truths. Here's an example. I agree with Kirk that African-Americans should not receive reparations. But not for the intellectually dishonest reason that I heard him give (because nothing bad ever happened to black people in this country). Are you for real? That's complete and total and utter bullshit! Intellectual dishonesty beyond comprehension. How can you find common ground with either side spouting utter rubbish like that? You can't! And until it stops and people get ready to start getting real, then this is where we are. And this is where we will remain. Or worse! What happened to Charlie was cruel and heinous. But it's not a reason to stop telling the truth. And it's not a justification to continue speaking with intellectual dishonesty about the problems we face. Donald Trump and his followers are trampling on the Constitution. Is he der Fuhrer? No. But he does display dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies. MAGA is absolutely a significant part of the problem. It's not just "the left". And anyone who can't see that? I hold they too are also a part of the problem! Anyone trying to score political points behind this. Just despicable and disgusting![/QUOTE]Please post link of Kirk saying nothing ever happened to black people. That does not sound like something he would say. Again, too much slander on his name.

For the first time he said something that I 100% support without hesitation:

[URL]https://youtu.be/HlIvH6ozvv4?si=fzi0XIVF7_pZlY2s[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3025979]You are nothing more than an insulting, intellectually dishonest individual whose type is well known on the internet, not worthy of anyone's time here. After this post you will have no more of mine. I suppose you have an "alibi" for those who sought to kidnap governor Whitmer too? No, MAGA isn't responsible for any of this. It's all everyone else's fault. Right! It started when Trump came down that escalator spewing his vile rhetoric. Left wing radical, right wing reactionary, or just plain deranged lunatic! The [B]point[/B] is that regardless of one's views people are catching the violence all around. Nobody is immune. Healthcare CEO shot from behind on the street! That's point number 1. And point 2 is that there's plenty of blame to go around. So stop with the finger wagging and finger pointing, and on the issue either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way! Intellectual honesty requires a recognition of what's wrong on both the left [B]and[/B] the right, something you clearly are incapable of, making you a part of the problem "Flintstone". Using what happened to try to score political points is just sickening. Willful ignorance. Intellectual dishonesty. That's you. Yabba dabba doo![/QUOTE]Don't forget the fertility clinic bombing in Palm Springs WOW congrats you're on the team full of deranged violent psychopaths that loves to gun down little kids praying.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/09/11/teen-mom-producer-morgan-j-freeman-wonders-if-trump-ordered-charlie-kirks-assassination-as-a-distraction-from-epstein-to-delay-the-2026-midterms/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/09/11/actress-amber-tamblyn-mocks-the-fact-that-charlie-kirks-daughter-witnessed-his-gory-assassination/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2025/09/12/franklin-graham-charlie-kirks-death-i-think-devil-has-overplayed-his-hand/[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3026075]Charlie Kirk was assassinated because the radical Left did not like what he was saying and they hated his rising popularity especially among college kids. There is no telling where Kirk might have gone. He might have become a presidential contender at some future date. Thus, the Left is glad this man is dead and very clearly the Left does not respect the 1st amendment freedom of speech in the constitution unless that speech passes Party approval. I did not agree with everything Kirk said, but anyone who thinks his assignation was justified is a left-wing nazi!

We have the 2nd amendment precisely because the framers knew what could happen without it. It is a safeguard measure to protect our freedom. I have a gun and if some asshole tries to break into my house, I am going to shoot that motherfucker in his or her chest. The Left wants to take guns away from honest citizens not criminals in order to make everybody dependent on the government. Just take a look how they choose not to enforce the strict gun laws already in place in places like Chicago or how they let violent repeat criminals out on the street. Black lives do not matter to Dem Woke shitheads. 100's of thousands of black Americans are dead on account of Democrat policies and yet Trump is the fascist for wanting to stop the killings.[/QUOTE]You must give some Democrats credit for their congame they convince blacks they like them and then pass laws to destroy them and chase them out of their states (and still get their votes).

Many blue states have very low black populations, gee I wonder why, case in point California BLM BLM BLM.

"look how they choose not to enforce the strict gun laws already in place in places like Chicago or how they let violent repeat criminals out on the street".

They let them out so they can keep killing each other.

[URL]https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/almost-100-murder-suspects-in-chicago-allowed-to-stay-out-of-jail-under-house-arrest-cook-county-violent-crime-criminals-sheriff-tom-dart-pretrial-program[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3026147]You must give some Democrats credit for their congame they convince blacks they like them and then pass laws to destroy them and chase them out of their states (and still get their votes).

Many blue states have very low black populations, gee I wonder why, case in point California BLM BLM BLM.

"look how they choose not to enforce the strict gun laws already in place in places like Chicago or how they let violent repeat criminals out on the street".

They let them out so they can keep killing each other.

[URL]https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/almost-100-murder-suspects-in-chicago-allowed-to-stay-out-of-jail-under-house-arrest-cook-county-violent-crime-criminals-sheriff-tom-dart-pretrial-program[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, Trump likes black people. Does not pretend to like them. I don't believe in racial identity politics but Trump could not find one "token" this time around to put in his cabinet? He hates black people.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3026110]Cane, because of the Democrats belief on illegal immigration, we cannot even agree who our citizens are. Democratic douches are so fucked in the head that they think people illegally entering the country and illegally working here have Constitutional rights. Well, they do not. They have the right to be treated humanely, and that is about it.

And fuck all that shit about they are so hard working crap. Those illegals screw over those who need a living wage and the legal immigrants. If we need immigrants, we should let them come in legally. I am 100% for expanded legal immigration and a type of amnesty program but no voting until you are a citizen. No, the real reason the Democrats are so pro-illegal is that the illegals vote illegally and vote Democrat when they do..[/QUOTE]One of the absolute worst things that the Biden administration did was the way they handled illegal immigration. The way they handled it made no sense, and I couldn't figure out the strategy. Here is what I know. Most people who come here illegally seeking asylum are lying. Not all but not most. They will say that they seek to escape gangs and violence and all that sort of thing. But for most, that's not the real reason. The real reason they come is as economic migrants and / or to reunite with family members who are already living in the States, many of them illegally as well. And I think the truth is that we really do need for people to come. This is a nation of immigrants. We need people to pick our fruits and vegetables, to build new homes, etc. But they need to come here legally. And if they don't, then they have no right to remain here or to be treated as citizens, which they are not. No nation should be letting just anyone and everyone enter its borders, get away with making false asylum claims, be entitled to generous public assistance, etc. I wish we had something like the European Union. The "North American Union", with the dollar as the common currency, that would allow people to move more freely back and forth to work. People want to work. We need the labor. And it could break the crooked coyotes from exploiting people so much. But regardless of whatever system is in place, if you come here illegally, then you got to go! That said, I do believe there does need to be some level of due process. People should be able to state their case. But "catch and release" is stupid, expecting people to voluntarily show up for their hearing when many just choose to disappear into the shadows instead. Keep the illegals detained, do not separate kids from parents, allow for some due process, and deport as required. Even better, keep out as many as possible in the first place, and put the screws to Mexico for letting all these people flow freely through their country up to the American border.