Maybe think twice next time, before using friends as political cannon fodder...
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3025989]Please stop twisting my words. I did not say Trump was killing people on the White House lawn and advocating for violence. It was an exaggeration of speech to show Trump is very popular with his supporters as long as he is making them money. [/QUOTE]Nah dude, you do a great job of twisting your words, all on your own!
[LIST][i][b]"....Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket....",[/b][/i] [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=3024421#post3024421[/url][/LIST]I don't see the "twisting of words" you claim. You said what you said, just own it!
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3025989] I also think it is disgusting you would bring my dead friend up. Shows what type of human you are.[/QUOTE][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] You're too funny, especially considering you're the one that dragged your unfortunately dead drugged-up friend and offered them up as political cannon fodder.
By tossing them into a political debt (no doubt just to garner sympathy) and then you turnaround and make violent criminal claims, about your Fuhrer's killing spree impunity. So what now, [b]you expect us to take you seriously,[/B] about your dead drugged-up friend [B]and what it means too cherish life, or take a like, [/B]either by willful presidential harm or by fentanyl?
Like really dude, c'mon! I know you said you're somewhat of a naive debater, but you're not that naive?
So the question is RamDavidson84, while this is not quite the same as YOUR Fuhrer's impunity killing spree on the White House lawn: [list][I][b]"Does the death of Charlie Kirk [/b](perhaps by way of the White House Lawn?), [b]still put money in people's pocket??"[/b][/I][/list]
Again with the "MAGA Victimhood"?
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3026108]So setting the record straight is your saying two wrongs make a right, and you are not responsible for your rhetoric? Got it! [/QUOTE]
[I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] Last I checked, the "2-wrongs of J.D. Vance", calling your MAGA Fuhrer, [b]"America's Hitler",[/b] didn't hurt his chances at becoming vice president, now did it! Especially when you consider that the white supremacists like Nick Fuentes, where making racist attacks his wife, Usha (practicing Hindu of Indian heritage).
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3026108]You demonize the fuck out of Republicans, call us every name in the book, including cultists following the Fuhrer, and you want credit for not calling us nazis? I think that says it all about you.[/QUOTE] This sound much like you're really trying to best and one-up, MDS1 on the victimhood! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I]
[i]{...BTW, don't forget the links to substantiate your false claims...}[/i]
Although, I can truly see you've been taking notes from your Fuhrer, on the hole "victimhood" woe is me, shtick! I think you'll agree, it will be interesting to see if he can still pull the "victimhood card", on the Epstein Sex Pedo Birthday Book, his signature on a degrading card (he denies) and why there's a section on kids/children, in a grown man's "birthday book"? [url]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr5q68j2169o[/url]
Let's also not forget, the $1.1 ($1.5 ??) billion dollar JP Morgen account in Epstein Pedo Sex Files, child trafficking withdrawals. JPMorgan processed over $1B for Jeffrey Epstein despite internal concerns over sex offender status: report. [url]https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/jpmorgan-processed-over-1b-jeffrey-epstein-despite-internal-concerns-over-sex-offender-status-report[/url]
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3026108]And if you are a crazed and confused Tranny or a mentally ill black homeless person, and you want to be immortalized and loved and cheered like Deniro was, the message is clear, kill Trump, kill Kirk, or kill any white person.[/QUOTE] Sounds like you're making a MAGA confession, to wanting to incite more violence? Or have you come out of the INCEL closet?
Yeah, your posts are definitely colorful, to say the least. [b]IF ONLY they were [u]FACTUAL!!![/u][/b]
History or anything else just another pathological liar
[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/steve-hilton-newsmax-political-violence/2025/09/12/id/1226257/[/URL]
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Why do lying MAGA liars continue to lie about the USA Constitution?
Obviously, lying MAGA liars continue to lie about everything because they are liars.
The USA Constitution and numerous Supreme Court rulings are quite clear about this:
[B]Constitutional Rights Of Undocumented Immigrants: Do They Have Any?
May 25, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2025/05/06/constitutional-rights-of--undocumented-immigrants-do-they-have-any/[/URL]
[QUOTE][b]What the U.S. Constitution Says[/b]
The Fifth Amendment states:
"No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.
The Fourteenth Amendment guarantees:
"Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person the equal protection of the laws.
These protections apply regardless of immigration status.
[B]What the Courts Have Said[/b]
The Supreme Court has consistently upheld that undocumented immigrants have constitutional protections:
[B]Yick Wo v. Hopkins[/b] (1886)
The Court ruled that the Equal Protection Clause applies to all persons, not just citizens, striking down a discriminatory licensing law targeting Chinese immigrants.
[B]Plyler v. Doe[/b] (1982)
Texas attempted to block undocumented children from public schools. The Court ruled this unconstitutional, affirming that undocumented immigrants are persons under the Fourteenth Amendment.
[B]Zadvydas v. Davis[/b] (2001)
The Court found that the government cannot detain immigrants indefinitely without a hearing, even if they are subject to a final order of removal.
[B]Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei[/b] (1953)
A notable exception: immigrants stopped at the border and denied entry can be held with fewer due process rights, as they are considered outside U.S. territory for constitutional purposes.
[B]So What Constitutional Rights Do Undocumented Immigrants Have?[/b]
Undocumented immigrants inside the United States have several key rights, including:
Undocumented immigrants inside the United States have several key rights, including:
The right to a hearing before deportation;
The right to apply for asylum or other forms of protection;
The right to be represented by legal counsel at their own expense;
The right to challenge unlawful government actions;
Protection against indefinite detention.
However, they do not have the right to a government-paid lawyer in immigration court unlike in criminal cases, where the Sixth Amendment guarantees counsel.
At the border, migrants without papers may face expedited removal, a process that allows for swift deportation without a full hearing unless they express fear of persecution. In that case, they must be given a credible fear interview with an asylum officer before they are removed.
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[B]A Nation of Laws, And Of People[/b]
The idea that illegal immigrants have no rights is both political kryptonite and legally wrong. While the federal government has broad authority over immigration policy, the Constitution guarantees basic protections to all human beings within U.S. borders. This principle that the rule of law applies even to the most vulnerable is one of the United States most enduring constitutional legacies.[/QUOTE]President Joe Biden followed the law, the USA Constitution and his Oath of Office to uphold both regarding immigrants who were in the USA and awaiting a ruling on the credibility of their claim of requiring asylum. Which was a process that had been taking a few weeks until Trump decimated the legal immigration system in his 1st Worst President in US History term, after which it took several months.
So-called president Donald Trump is breaking the law, violating the US Constitution and his Oath of Office to uphold both when he deports immigrants contrary to the law and their US Constitutional rights as cited above.
No way Tokyo Rose 10000 miles away wants this savage to have rights
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3026179]Obviously, lying MAGA liars continue to lie about everything because they are liars.
The USA Constitution and numerous Supreme Court rulings are quite clear about this:
[B]Constitutional Rights Of Undocumented Immigrants: Do They Have Any?
May 25, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2025/05/06/constitutional-rights-of--undocumented-immigrants-do-they-have-any/[/URL]
President Joe Biden followed the law, the USA Constitution and his Oath of Office to uphold both regarding immigrants who were in the USA and awaiting a ruling on the credibility of their claim of requiring asylum. Which was a process that had been taking a few weeks until Trump decimated the legal immigration system in his 1st Worst President in US History term, after which it took several months.
So-called president Donald Trump is breaking the law, violating the US Constitution and his Oath of Office to uphold both when he deports immigrants contrary to the law and their US Constitutional rights as cited above.[/QUOTE][URL]https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/beheading/post/380648/an-immigrant-in-texas-beheaded-a[/URL]
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/09/11/graphic-biden-released-illegal-alien-seen-carrying-severed-head-across-texas-motel-parking-lot/[/URL]
The Historic Economic Recovery and Due Process
[QUOTE=TheCane;3026154]One of the absolute worst things that the Biden administration did was the way they handled illegal immigration. The way they handled it made no sense, and I couldn't figure out the strategy. Here is what I know. Most people who come here illegally seeking asylum are lying. Not all but not most. They will say that they seek to escape gangs and violence and all that sort of thing. But for most, that's not the real reason. The real reason they come is as economic migrants and / or to reunite with family members who are already living in the States, many of them illegally as well. And I think the truth is that we really do need for people to come. This is a nation of immigrants. We need people to pick our fruits and vegetables, to build new homes, etc. But they need to come here legally. And if they don't, then they have no right to remain here or to be treated as citizens, which they are not. No nation should be letting just anyone and everyone enter its borders, get away with making false asylum claims, be entitled to generous public assistance, etc. I wish we had something like the European Union. The "North American Union", with the dollar as the common currency, that would allow people to move more freely back and forth to work. People want to work. We need the labor. And it could break the crooked coyotes from exploiting people so much. But regardless of whatever system is in place, if you come here illegally, then you got to go! That said, I do believe there does need to be some level of due process..[/QUOTE]The strategy was the inflow of immigration, both documented and undocumented, was a key factor in the overwhelming success of Biden's economic recovery from the ravages of Trump's Pandemic vs damn near everywhere else on the planet that did the opposite of it.
We have already seen the reports of studies proving the strategy is good for an economy in general anyway, kept Trump's Pandemic's inflation lower than it would have been otherwise, increased the number of jobs being created and all while reducing the crime rate that had skyrocketed under Trump.
BTW, when lying Trump and other MAGA liars twist that "increased the number of jobs being created" part into one of their favorite lies that it only created jobs for illegal immigrants, here is the part they are too dumb to figure out; the low cost labor provided by illegal immigrants frees up more money in the given industry to hire more skilled labor from USA Citizens and pay higher wages for that work. That is why and how USA Citizen job applicants greatly benefited during Biden's historic economic recovery from the horrible mess of everything Trump left behind and handed him and Harris to fix.
Indeed, one of the top 2-3 factors cited by credible economists for how and why jobs creation for everyone is likely to falter if not contribute significantly to plunging us into a serious Recession under Trump is his "close the borders" agenda on immigration. That is very bad for the USA economy and always has been.
And I'm sure you can see the problem with your other point is a civil society of laws cannot operate on the mere assumption that we "know" a border-crosser is lying when they claim a need for asylum and turn them away on that basis. Not if you want to obey the law as set forth in the USA Constitution, that is. We have to afford them Due Process to determine whether they are lying or not. Which takes time. Longer time since Trump decimated the system before Biden took over than was required prior.
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Well, this should surprise no one;
My god, how will Trump, Fux News, Bretbart, Newsmax and all the other lying MAGA liars spin and twist this one like a pretzel?
LOL. It'll be fun to watch them try. Maybe we'll get a preview of how they'll try to do it from the MAGAs here.
[B]Charlie Kirk Suspects Grandma Says Family Is All MAGA.
Sept. 13, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-suspect-grandma-says-203008756.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Tyler Robinson, 22, the man arrested in connection with the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, comes from a MAGA family, his grandmother has revealed.
Although MAGA figureheads have been quick to point fingers at the left for Kirks death, Tylers grandmother, Debbie Robinson, 69, insisted that they come from a family of Trump supporters.
She spoke with the Daily Mail on Friday after news of Robinsons arrest broke. My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump, Debbie told the outlet. Most of my family members are Republican. [B]I dont know any single one whos a Democrat.[/b][/QUOTE]
