2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Siddv]Anyone ever encounter this little situation?

I received a call this morning from a semi regular TG. She works at NEP. Though this is a rather private matter, I thought I would post the issue in order to listen to points of view, comments and obvious advise. I have been traveling to BKK since 03-7 times per year on business/pleasure. I have many freinds in BKK, know the city well and even own a new 4 bedroom home in Ragsit. I still work in the US and have my own business. Not sure what this has to do with nything. Anyway 4 weeks ago I was with this BG who I enjoy spending time with in her apartment. She's 24 from one of the Rainbow bars. I did not use proetction on several occations (yes I know, I know-though she claims she was using medicine-still my responsiblity) and she now says she is 4 weeks pregnant! I wonder how common this is. Is this a story for money, how can I be certain its mine ect. I intend to ask her to have the pregancy terminated and will pay thoses costs. Anyone have any sage advice or know others who have been so notified. Is this legite? O well another BKK situation so thought I'd report it for informational purposes.[/QUOTE]Me and a friend of mine went to BKK 5-6 years ago (the first time ever for both of us) and he found a lovely lady in a gogo that stayed with him mostly of that trip.

That trip we spent $ like grass around us, not knowing better and maybe that’s why this happened.

One day he came to my room and told me he had a condom split with her and was worried for STD.

Well we went shopping for STD medicine just in case, but I told him (more as a joke) that he should be more worried about being a father and I told him wait 4-5 weeks after we have arrived home he will se 555.

4 weeks after arriving home he came over to me and guess what…..she called and told him she was pregnant and wanted to keep the baby.

We discuss a lot how to solve that problem and finally he did like this (in short terms).

He told her that he is not a rich man and cant support her and that he never wants to have anything to do with her again if she gives birth to it.

Born a baby after knowing each other for a week? She has to be crazy; it takes more than that to decide about this type of things.

If she born the baby she will have to raise it alone and he would only pay alimonies for the baby after they have done DNA testing to make sure it’s his.

The abortion (if she does that) he will pay after she has sent the invoice from the hospital to him.

I know him and if she would have born it he would have taken full responsibility for it, but both of us got the feeling it’s was a scam.

2 weeks after that he called her and asked what she had done. She had done an abortion (but who knows) Anyway, he never heard from her again, end of that story.

In your situation, well she probably have figure out that your economical situation is really good and she sees the opportunity to get out of the business or at least get some economical compensation for the child and thinking, that will make her life better.

But on the other hand maybe she is in Love with you?

If she is sure that the child (if there is one) is yours then you can be in trouble, she is 24 and can se the end of her gogo career.

Well I learned (after the first trip) to always use and always check the condom before I pop.

And believe me, after 5-6 years of mongering it have been 6-7 times when I have look down to check that I haven’t seen any trace of a condom or that the damn thing has been broken.

One thing is fore sure you are not the first one and definitely not the last one to end up in this type of situation.

Hope everything works out well for you.

I checked out Nana last Saturday - first time in a year or so. And - I am really not impressed.

Was there early, around 7:30 pm, and most Gogos had not even started the dance activities.

First step was Rainbow 4, may be 15 girls dancing, but the usually have up to 200 girls working there. The ladies were relatively young and not very attractive. I was immediately attacked by one lady, taking place next to me and trying to get into business with me - so I left.

Hollywood Carousel on the second floor - around 8:00 pm, no customer inside. 8 - 10 girls dancing.

Playschool downstairs - the selection was better. 25 girls dancing, the place started to fill up at 8:30 pm. Most of the girls mothers, a few stunners.

Voodoo - LB's dancing! I never realized that before! Some nice girls sitting in front at the beer bar, but inside - oh no, I don't go there again.

Hollywood on the groundfloor - LB's dancing. I couldn't believe it - what happens there in Nana? I know that there are some specialized LB bars, but now many standard gogo bars obviously employ LB's.

No, that is not my spot any more. I couldn't sit there for 5 min. and drink a beer without being hazzled by somebody.

I really prefer the atmosphere of the hostess bar areas like Soi 33 or discos like Spasso or CM2. Nana - not for me.


Giotto

[QUOTE=BBBJ]Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.

Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.

How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?

At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.

I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.

Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?

Thank!
BBBJ[/QUOTE]
Ageeing with Ediie here.
Either you take action or you miss out. The best girls are snapped up very quickly if they are available at all.
So if you like a girl that is clearly well above the normal standard, make it known very smartly. Ask if she is available to come and sit with you at least.
She may already be taken by a regular.
But even if a girl is sitting down talking to you, she could get barfined by someone else from under your nose. So don't take too lng to find out if she likes you and wants to be barfined by you.
There are some girls who may have special priveliges where they get to choose who they go with, but not many I think.
Even if you have to act quickly and decisively, try to be respectful to the girl and give the impression that she is not just a piece of flesh being bought.
No matter how great a guy you are, you can easily lose out to regulars that the girls know well already.
By all means be friendly to girls not available to you, in case you get another chance in the future.
Realistically it sometimes takes persistence over time to get a chance to go with really hot girls (I'm referring to the top 1% here) and sometimes the time for that persistence is not available to you. Typical scenario: The girl doing the dance number is very pretty and has a fab body to boot. you discover that a regular has already got her sown up for tonight after she finishes her acts. Or perhaps she dissappears to Pataya for a few days with a regular customer.

Its much easier to get a high quality girl from a massage palour, because you get significant time with her in the booking, you get to find out something about the personality, and also how good in the sack. Some of these girls have boyfriends or sugar-daddies of course.

[QUOTE=Giotto]I checked out Nana last Saturday - first time in a year or so. And - I am really not impressed.
No, that is not my spot any more. I couldn't sit there for 5 min. and drink a beer without being hazzled by somebody.

I really prefer the atmosphere of the hostess bar areas like Soi 33 or discos like Spasso or CM2. Nana - not for me.
Giotto[/QUOTE]

NEP has become an over-priced tourist trap filled with newbies and Japanese and Korean wankers with more money than sense. The quality, which hasn't been that good for the last half dozen years has nose-dived except for a few here and there. The girls are overly aggressive, as you say and in general it's not at all pleasant going there. I was co-erced to go there a week ago with some friends and left after an hour or so...never again. At least at Cowboy there's not much pressure and there are still a few nice enough looking girls making it a pleasant place to relax and have a few.
Sorry to disagree with you about soi 33. But, although the atmosphere is relaxed, the girls are not worth the money they expect. Few, if any are really stunning. I feel that I'm too old for discos. But, if I was still inclined, I'd head to Rachada soi 4-8. That's where the stunners are. But, of course 99.9% are not P4P.
A few weeks ago, there were some posts about RCA. I should think that most, if not all mongers on this board (unless you're under 25) are way too old for RCA. The place is almost solely a teenage hang-out where most girls are in the 17-20 y.o. range and wouldn't be interested in most Farang unless they're super hunks.

[QUOTE=Meaty]You'll give the bloke a heart attack !!!
Carousel is NOT a ladyboy bar, it's cool, you may be confusing it with Cassonova ?[/QUOTE]
Last time I went to Carousel bar on 3rd floor in the the far right corner with all the artificial rocky landscape (maybe about 6 months ago), it had changed to a strictly LB bar (not sure when), whereas previously (a long time ago I guess) was a nudie gogo bar with just a few LBs. This visit there were no real girls at all. Hope I haven't made a mistake with the name of the bar.

I went there with my girlfriend (not LB) and her brother/sister who is a LB.
The breasts of some lady boys were impressive and I was invited to touch to see how beautiful breasts can grow on a LB with hormone threapy in some cases. Wasn't keen to go too far with the touching of course! However I felt relatively safe there due to being with my girlfriend, who had never been to a bar before. So was an experience for her to see Angel Witch shows and also a contrasting LB bar.

Can't vouch for current status of the bar. They change all the time.
I have never been to Casanova so can't comment on it.

[QUOTE=Giotto]I checked out Nana last Saturday - first time in a year or so. And - I am really not impressed.


No, that is not my spot any more. I couldn't sit there for 5 min. and drink a beer without being hazzled by somebody.

I really prefer the atmosphere of the hostess bar areas like Soi 33 or discos like Spasso or CM2. Nana - not for me.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Anyone who has spent more than a week in Bangkok isn't impressed with Nana. It's just a tourist trap.

The only bar worth patronizing in N.E.P is the Hog's Breath. When Woodstock was there they had good hamburgers. But at least you can still get a good grease burger from the cart at the entrance. That alone is worth the trip, especially at closing time.

Soi 33 doesn't appeal to me because of the rip offs with the lady drinks and the games they play with the charges on the cheques. Doesn't seem like the price to quality ratio is worth it. I haven't been there in a while, but The Office isn't too bad and the BBQ ribs restaurant (I forget the name) across the street with the jazz band is worth a visit.

For us older guys who have a few $ to spend Spaso's is the way to go. The prices and dress code keeps out most of the scum.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]...Soi 33 doesn't appeal to me because of the rip offs with the lady drinks and the games they play with the charges on the cheques. Doesn't seem like the price to quality ratio is worth it. I haven't been there in a while, but The Office isn't too bad and the BBQ ribs restaurant (I forget the name) across the street with the jazz band is worth a visit. ...[/QUOTE]Retired Army,

Ribs across the street with jazz band - Mojo's. That's past. The bar was sold in the beginning of the year, no Blues any more, very very loud rock music.

I agree with most of your statement, but not all bars in Soi 33 are rip-off places (I must say that, of course :) ! Price to Quality ratio ... that of course something everybody has to evaluate for himself.

Here my actual take on Soi 33:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=537128[/URL]


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Last time I went to Carousel bar on 3rd floor in the the far right corner with all the artificial rocky landscape

Cascade (can be wrong again, the name is 2hand info) is the name of LB bar on 3 fl (right corner) Nana Plaza, I reported earlier the name Obsession before, but that is wrong, sorry for that.

I haven’t been inside (can’t confirm the artificial rocky landscape) but from the outside its looks like a LB bar.

Obsession is on the ground floor don’t know remember if I have been there, but the name I remember.

Hollywood Carousel is the first bar on the left (3 floor) and it has 2 rotating dance floors.

The left floor had a show around 21-22 00, not as good as AW but OK.

Some of the girls starts work 20 00 in that bar so there are no meaning to go to early there.

If I don’t remember wrong its only 4 bars in that lever and 3 is OK (no LB)
The one on the right side has a mechanical bull inside and is always full with customers, fun place but not so good looking girls when I was there. (They also have shows)

2 bar on the left side (just dipped in the head there) looks like a table dancing bar?

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Greetings Tors Ham,

Apparently you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix it before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

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This will be my first trip since the New Airport opened. I see folks paying Bt-1000+ to get to Pattaya. The trick on arrival at the old airport was to go to the upper level (drop offs, private cars etc.) and negotiate a rate with a random car/driver who just dropped off a stray traveller. Arriving at midnite from the USA, any chance of that happening at the New Airport? It doesn't seem like it. What is the best fare you old-hands are getting at the Airport to Pattaya? Thanks for any answers and to all the post'ers. Great stuff.

Jpc

[QUOTE=Giotto]Retired Army,

Ribs across the street with jazz band - Mojo's. That's past. The bar was sold in the beginning of the year, no Blues any more, very very loud rock music.

I agree with most of your statement, but not all bars in Soi 33 are rip-off places (I must say that, of course :) ! Price to Quality ratio ... that of course something everybody has to evaluate for himself.

Here my actual take on Soi 33:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=537128[/URL]

Giotto[/QUOTE]How does the quality of girls compare in these spots? I've been going to Bangkok for years are have only tried Nana or Soi Cowboy and really have only found stunners in a few Nana gogos. Soi Cowboy has been especially hit or miss for me. Any other suggestions for real stunners? Not price sensitive, just looking for top notch young snapper.

Many thanks

How giotto, thats kind of odd.

I checked out Livingstons Lodge on Saturday night for the first time.

Upon entry a very nice looking hostess greeted me, I wanted to sit at the bar, but too many 'attractive but not attractive enough' ladies were all sitting at the bar. I piked a table where I could check out the whole room being my first time there. The hostess ushered me away from the table I wanted to one right next to the gogo stand. Bad enough that I couldn't sit where I wanted, now the hostess proceeded to introduce me to a steady stream of ladies I did not want to meet via the 'do you want drink wit this lady' line. I was there to check it out before I made my nightly rounds. Maybe have a couple beers buy some lady drinks. The hustle wouldn't stop so much so that I pounded my singha and left.

The gogo dancer was quite hot, the other ladies attractive, but overall a very uncomfortable experience. I was there just to have a beer. I let the hostess know when I walked in. I liked the set up, prices were great, but the service was awful.

I don't like nana either, but I can spend more than five minutes there. I was at livingstons for about 4 and a half. [not counting the ten minutes fending off the hostess and wait for check bin.]

[QUOTE=BBBJ]Here's a question for the more experienced with Soi Cowboy.

Last July, I walked into Long Gun on Soi Cowboy. Sat down at the podium and enjoyed the girl doing the Bangkok shuffle. I noticed some very attractive ladies on stage and was waiting to meet them after their shift... but while many girls came in, I couldn't see the girls I noticed on stage.

How do I solve this?
- should I go the American way and give the girl a tip on the podium?
- is there some 'mama san' that I should request the girl from while she's still on stage?

At the end that night, I simple picked a girl I liked (not sure if I saw her on the stage earlier) and had a good session.

I'll be in BKK this December for two nights, so I want to go about it in a more professional way this time around.

Can anybody offer me some wise words of advise?

Thank!
BBBJ[/QUOTE]

BBBJ,

Whenever you go to a new city, state, country, etc., you need to be more observant. Watch what's happening around you and observe what the experienced hobbyists do. Better yet, do some homework before you go to these places. Research and observation will be well worth it. Look, I may be making the wrong assumption here and you may be a very experienced traveler. It's just my initial reaction to your post.

Now, to answer your question, you do not need to wait until the end of their shift. BKK go-go's are also not U.S. strip bars. You do not need to be tipping them "garter" style. Have one of the waitresses call the girl down for you. Just point her out! There's a reason they are on stage, the last\least of which is for your entertainment. Flag the girl, have a drink and see if there's chemistry, and then pay the bar fine. Skip the drink if you don't feel it's necessary or worth the time. I find that it's a good feeling out process, to weed out the merc's from the gems.

I hope this info helps.

AT2

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Anyone who has spent more than a week in Bangkok isn't impressed with Nana. It's just a tourist trap.

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Yes and no. There are more and more mercenaries in NEP, but I will always pay a visit there. I have had some great experiences with some of the girls there, and found a real gem a few months ago. She was the best that I have had in BKK and she was working the Rainbow Bar on the ground floor. Accepted 2,000 baht with no questions asked and we just clicked.

Each place (NEP, Cowboy, Night Clubs, Artist Bars, Pool bars, etc.) have their pros and cons. I don't think ruling out any one place is ever a good idea. All it takes is one. All of us on the board are very different Joe's, with one thing in common, and that's the hobby. That's where the similarity often ends. Some of us are young, some old, some fat, some chiseled, Asian, Caucasian, rich, poor, laid back, aggressive. Everyone will have a preference and having options is always good.

AT2

Hi AsiaTraveler2,

You did indeed make the wrong assumption, but no offense taken.

Thanks for your clarifying answer.

Perhaps you (or anybody else for that matter) could give me some more insight into the following:
I'm always searching for a girl that is very skillful at the art of giving a BBBJ (hence the name) and will allow CIM/COF.

At the bars in the Cowboy, what's the best way of finding girls with these skills? The last time I asked the girl if she liked 'smoking'. She said 'OK, but only a little bit'. When I said 'I want a lot' she answered 'OK'.

Obviously she said OK purely to close the deal. Back at the hotel room she did show good BBBJ skills but would only do it once for like 3 minutes and CIM or COF was out of the question. Most she would allow was COB.

Should I ask the waitress to recommend a girl with these particular skills? Or is it simply a trial and error issue? Also, is there a polite way to describe that I'm looking for CIM/COF? (like 'smoking' is used to describe a BJ)?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
BBBJ

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]BBBJ,

Whenever you go to a new city, state, country, etc., you need to be more observant. Watch what's happening around you and observe what the experienced hobbyists do. Better yet, do some homework before you go to these places. Research and observation will be well worth it. Look, I may be making the wrong assumption here and you may be a very experienced traveler. It's just my initial reaction to your post.

Now, to answer your question, you do not need to wait until the end of their shift. BKK go-go's are also not U.S. strip bars. You do not need to be tipping them "garter" style. Have one of the waitresses call the girl down for you. Just point her out! There's a reason they are on stage, the last\least of which is for your entertainment. Flag the girl, have a drink and see if there's chemistry, and then pay the bar fine. Skip the drink if you don't feel it's necessary or worth the time. I find that it's a good feeling out process, to weed out the merc's from the gems.

I hope this info helps.

AT2[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BBBJ]...
I'm always searching for a girl that is very skillful at the art of giving a BBBJ (hence the name) and will allow CIM/COF.
...
[/QUOTE]BBBJ,

Don't expect that a bar girl tells you the truth about her own abilities and preferences. Most of them want to make the deal, get the money - even if the experience is lousy and you do not return. They will promis you much more than they are willing to deliver.

The Mamasam / service staff in the bars usually also do not know too much about the abilities of a single girl. They do not get too much feed back from customers. That is different in massage parlours, the smaller soapies or oilies, where a good Mamasan really know about the girls and their services.

Nevertheless - there is only one method to find a girl with special skills: Try and Error. Try as long as you find one. And if you go for BBBJ CIM/COB - try Darling, Tulip, Eden.



Giotto