Jakarta

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2965675]Exactly, there are those of us who admit that we pay for sex and report about our experiences to help other mongers along the way. And then there are those guys who make up fake stories about fucking girls for free from SA or using a fake service called "grab feel" to grope women on motorcycles just trying to earn an honest living, in order to impress their internet buddies and to stroke their massive "I am better than you because I pay more than you" arrogant egos.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Hey Grab Feel is real. Go try it and see. And then report.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2965601]I do not think so. All my money was like brand new. One place wante to give me less money for a bill. Another one would not accept at all because of a small ink stain. They bills have to be like new rather than "not too shabby".[/QUOTE]Yes, exchange shops always want crisp, unfolded, brand-new notes. I once exchanged money at a shop called Chandraprima, which offered excellent rates but rejected one of my £20 bills.

These days, I avoid exchanging cash in Bangkok or Jakarta. Instead, I started using UK bank account that offers fee-free forex debit cards to withdraw directly from ATMs.

Here are my ATM tips that I have shared previously here but worth repeating.

1. Avoid the ATM's currency conversion option—the rates are terrible.

2. Some ATMs hold the card until the transaction ends. I once forgot mine while counting notes. Make sure to take it back.

3. Keep a separate bank account for this card to minimize risk. Card skimming is common in Asia. I freeze the card via the bank app after each use. I had my card details leaked six months after using an ATM in Bali which I later came to know that it is a known issue in these places.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2965682]ATMs always offer better exchange rates than money exchange kiosks. Make sure to use a debit card that doesn't charge any foreign ATM fees such as Capital One, Charles Schwab, or Fidelity and always make sure to decline the ATM exchange rate if it offers one.

Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Take an hour or two before you travel to call your bank's customer service number. Let them know what countries you will be visiting and ask them to tell you fees for each card, credit and debit, you will be using:

1. ATM withdrawal fee (should be a fixed amount).

2. ATM foreign exchange fee (could be a fixed fee PLUS a % of the transaction amount).

3. If they refund any bank, or local bank / ATM fees.

4. Daily, weekly, monthly withdrawal limits.

5. Fees for using the card for a purchase (restaurant, retail store, service provider).

6. Foreign exchange fees on purchases.

7. For a credit card, ask about cash advance fees and limits.

8. Already noted: Do not accept local currency conversion on an ATM or POS Terminal. The local payment service provider will always add an upcharge (up to 3 or 4 %) to the exchange rate to generate additional revenue.

Next compare fees for using a debit versus credit card for each scenario. You may find that it is less expensive to take a cash advance on a credit card and then immediately make a payment on the card from your checking account to avoid additional interest charges (which compound daily).

Finally, make your least expensive card and method your primary card, but carry at least one more card from a different bank as a backup. Leave the backup in your hotel safe. Never put both cards in your wallet. If you lose your wallet or get robbed, you will still be able to do business. And consider getting a digital wallet account like PayPal or the local equivalent as well. These typically connect to your debit or credit card and your bank account and will let you send cash to others and (typically) local businesses without the need to carry your card with you. All you need is the app on your phone and Cell or WiFi service.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2965682]ATMs always offer better exchange rates than money exchange kiosks. Make sure to use a debit card that doesn't charge any foreign ATM fees such as Capital One, Charles Schwab, or Fidelity and always make sure to decline the ATM exchange rate if it offers one.

Hope this helps.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmations. Yup, understood on both counts on the fee and the decline part.

Do you know if the Airport ATM is better than the exchange booth? If not, no worries, I'll exchange enough to get to my hotel and find an ATM nearby.

Hello.

I look for Mercure Manga Dua, but I cannot found it.

I found Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni or Novotel Jakarta Mangga Dua Square. Is it one of this? Or can you write the webpage?

About Classic girl outside, I agree with a very beautifull one.

They came in my home, all was rigth.

Then she get a message and invented that mother died. Obviously was untruth: I saw her two days after in the bar.

It was not a problem of stolen money, becuase she did this before I paied her. So I pay just 2 hours.

I was already thinking about illegal agreement, with no mamasan.

So it may be is better to ask to mamasan? Or you was always right?

My idea is to take girl for 1 hour, and if one is grand ask for another day full night.

[QUOTE=DaveTheKnave;2965692]Greetings,

If you are a first timer, you will want to stay in North Jakarta because that is where most of the good brothels are. The Classic hotel is all you really need. I stayed at the Mercure Manga Dua last time for less than $50 night including breakfast for 2 and a bathtub. This is a must for me. All the girls I've taken back with me all say that having a hot bath is the first time in their lives. Imagine that. Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia. Sitting in a hot bath for an hour with a beautiful 20 year old Asian girl is the ultimate for me. I also need a balcony, but getting a hotel with balcony, breakfast AND bath is a bit much to ask these days. Even the Ritz Carlton Kuningan, Marriott and Meridien didn't have balconies.

Just go to the Classic. Second floor- there are 200 girls in there and they all cost 365,000 Rp. For 1 hour. Ask her for her Whatsapp number or phone because sooner or later you'll want a girl to spend the night. Arranging for a bar girl to spend the night isn't that difficult but remember that they are cheating the club out of their commission, so it's a bit tricky. [/QUOTE]

Grand Harmoni Mercure is pretty decent and is about 2 Kms from classic if my memory serves me right. Actually, the bartender there was ready to come out to Bali with me within 5 minutes of me chatting with her. Tells me everyone is game in the services industry in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2965876]Hello.

I look for Mercure Manga Dua, but I cannot found it.

I found Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni or Novotel Jakarta Mangga Dua Square. Is it one of this? Or can you write the webpage?

About Classic girl outside, I agree with a very beautifull one.

They came in my home, all was rigth.

Then she get a message and invented that mother died. Obviously was untruth: I saw her two days after in the bar.

It was not a problem of stolen money, becuase she did this before I paied her. So I pay just 2 hours.

I was already thinking about illegal agreement, with no mamasan.

So it may be is better to ask to mamasan? Or you was always right?

My idea is to take girl for 1 hour, and if one is grand ask for another day full night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2965821]There is another option. I always ask and get two key cards at the check-in, explaining that I booked the room for two guests and the other guest will join me later. Most hotels have no problem with this, some hotels will charge an extra refundable deposit. Then when I meet the girl and if I trust her, I give her a card to follow me to my room after a few minutes to avoid getting noticed. This option even worked for having two girls to come to my room.[/QUOTE][B]If I trust her[/B] is a hell of a qualification that you need to give a serious thought to before proceeding. Remember that even if you totally girl-proof your room, you're still on the hook for a "memento" or two she might not be able to leave behind, LOL. And yes, this is coming from personal experience (not in Jakarta, though), and it ain't fun.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2965876]Hello.

I look for Mercure Manga Dua, but I cannot found it.

I found Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni or Novotel Jakarta Mangga Dua Square. Is it one of this? Or can you write the webpage?

About Classic girl outside, I agree with a very beautifull one.

They came in my home, all was rigth.

Then she get a message and invented that mother died. Obviously was untruth: I saw her two days after in the bar.

It was not a problem of stolen money, becuase she did this before I paied her. So I pay just 2 hours.

I was already thinking about illegal agreement, with no mamasan.

So it may be is better to ask to mamasan? Or you was always right?

My idea is to take girl for 1 hour, and if one is grand ask for another day full night.[/QUOTE]Hi, so sorry. It's the Hotel Mercure Kota. NOT Manga Dua.

If you ask the Mamasan, you are going to be paying 365. ,000 per hour times 10 hours = 3. 6 mil. And then they might give you a bit of a discount. The girls work 10 hours a day 6 days a week so the mamasan isn't suspicious when they take a day off. Make arrangements on Whatsapp for her day off to be the Long Time she spends with you. This money goes directly to the girl.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2965716]I got rejected again from the Phantom Zone at Classic. Then the girl I chose (but rejected me) got up and went to the stage and all the girls on that side got up and followed her onto the stage. She grabbed the mic, looked deep into my eyes, and started to sing Meghan Trainor "NO! The rest of the girls danced and did backing vocals.

Meghan Trainor. NO (lyrics) - YouTube.

(I think it's so cute and I think it's so sweet!

How you let your friends encourage you to try and talk to me.

But let me stop you there.

Oh, before you speak.

Nah to the ah to the, no, no, no!

My name is no.

My sign is no.

My number is no.

You need to let it go.

First you going to say you ain't runnin' game, thinkin' I'm believing every word.

Call me beautiful, so original, telling me I'm not like other girls.

I was in my zone before you came along, now I'm thinking maybe you should go.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

I be like nah to the I, to the I, to the no, no, no!

All my ladies listen up..[/QUOTE]It was me that had that experience and wrote about it. If you are at the entrance that takes you downstairs to the make out rooms, this sofa with girls is to the right of that entrance. I chose some girls on it but they looked scared and all shook their head yet I seen them willingly go with others and actually heard one speak good English and asked if the man was Muslim the girl was big and volumptous actually looked mixed like Arabian. (This was when I was coming back into the main room with a girl and walked past their sofa)

Anyway I got the mamasan she was old and small and wrote a translation for her and said I want this one the mami asked her girl shook her head and mami didn't look bothered just shrugged shoulders. I don't know if there's different levels of handlers for these girls. If the mami was chacha they wouldn't say no.

So yea here seems to be this one sofa where thy act like they are too good it's annoying.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2965716]
Months ago guys were complaining about that side and several posted that they were going to talk to the manager and / or mamis to find out what was going on. But as always everyone is full of SHT. But I did months ago. The manager if found is near the bar which is furthest from the girls but I never sit over there and never saw him until I asked. Anyways he said he was not the manager but said maybe he could help. Nothing of course. Two mamis on that side when I asked about it suddenly could not speak English. But some mamis still try to get me to take their girls so they must be available. Only answer I can figure is that a few of the girls had bad foreigners and they spread the word. Now it is considered fact because the story has been told so many times and for so long. Two weeks ago I actually had a girl from that side that was good and repeated with her.[/QUOTE]Are you really surprised? Have you seen posts from recent arrivals to Jakarta? Any girls who have encountered some of the fine specimens posting here will swear off foreigners forever and I don't blame them one bit.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2965885][B]If I trust her[/B] is a hell of a qualification that you need to give a serious thought to before proceeding. Remember that even if you totally girl-proof your room, you're still on the hook for a "memento" or two she might not be able to leave behind, LOL. And yes, this is coming from personal experience (not in Jakarta, though), and it ain't fun.[/QUOTE]Very.

Very bad idea to ever leave a room key with a working girl, not matter how 'trustworthy' they seem. Just don't.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2965824]I think the above post and pictures he posted proves that he has been to Jakarta. Maybe you should RTFF a little better before you post wrong information and lies.

You think you know it all, but here you proved you don't really know shit. I think GG may have even more experience in Indonesia than you do. Maybe if you actually read the forum instead of making asinine remarks, and telling people not to take their trips, you might have found this report he posted back in April. I've also read his reports about visiting batam on the ferry from Singapore and I have found his info more helpful than the half-baked shit that you post post about overpaying for 5 star hotels and airfare just to stay only five days. Do you even know any words in bahasa Indonesia other than terima kasih? In the short satu bulan that I've been here I've picked up enough to have short conversations now.[/QUOTE]Indeed I have been to Indo many, many times. I worked in SE Asia for nearly two decades and visited Jakarta, Batam, other areas on a regular basis all that time. Unfortunately based back in the US now, so haven't been there so much lately. Looking forward to spending several months there starting in January!

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2965821]There is another option. I always ask and get two key cards at the check-in, explaining that I booked the room for two guests and the other guest will join me later. Most hotels have no problem with this, some hotels will charge an extra refundable deposit. Then when I meet the girl and if I trust her, I give her a card to follow me to my room after a few minutes to avoid getting noticed. This option even worked for having two girls to come to my room.[/QUOTE]Bad, bad, BAD idea. NEVER give a working girl your key card, no matter how trustworthy she seems.

[QUOTE=DaveTheKnave;2965692]Greetings,

If you're coming to Jakarta for the first time, you'll find the prices cheaper than Pattaya but the biggest problem for me is finding proper food. TGI Fridays, Tony Romas, Outback Steakhouse, etc. Have all closed leaving you to search Italian restaurants dotted around the city or the big hotels in Sudirman business area. [/QUOTE]Ehmmm. What do you consider 'proper food'? You have to have something every time from some Western restaurant? Open your mind, man, a lot of Indo food is awesome. And there are certainly a ton of local 'Western' food joints around as well.

As far as a place with a balcony, just stay in an AirBnB if it's that important to you. Nearly all of them have balconies.

Old women. Block M. I wouldn't think you'd have any trouble at finding 'middle aged women' to shag.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2965675]Exactly, there are those of us who admit that we pay for sex and report about our experiences to help other mongers along the way. And then there are those guys who make up fake stories about fucking girls for free from SA or using a fake service called "grab feel" to grope women on motorcycles just trying to earn an honest living, in order to impress their internet buddies and to stroke their massive "I am better than you because I pay more than you" arrogant egos.

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Well stated.