Seoul

Texted more than twenty Hyugetel in Gyeonggi-do one afternoon a few weeks ago. Two in Bundang responded that I could make a reservation, one said no, and the rest did not respond at all.

As I was just on a fact finding mission, I replied to the two Hyugetels that I would call the following week to make a reservation when I would have more time. Unfortunately, I haven't had a large enough window of free time to make it to Bundang recently.

I did, however, have time to return to one of my local Hyugetel in East Seoul. The first time I visited I was introduced to an overweight woman, but since that first visit, she's disappeared from the lineup. The profiles of women who replaced her appeared to be less edited, and so, in the spirit of adventure, I made an appointment.

This time, I was not disappointed.

The woman I met turned out to be attractive. She definitely wasn't perfect, but a big step up in quality compared to the woman I had been with previously. Good body, cute ass, and fake tits. She had a fair bit of acne scarring on her face that had been smoothed out in her profile photos, but I quickly forgot about her blemishes when she shoved my dick all the way into the back of her throat. Not all women are so gifted with the ability to deep throat, but those who can get high marks from me.

After she got me going, she jumped on top, put her nipples in my mouth, pressed my hands firmly into her fake tits and, per our arrangement, let me cum deep inside of her. She was fun, it was a great experience, and I'm happy I didn't completely write off this Hyugetel after the first dud that they offered me. I will definitely return to try out the other women in the ads. All in, it cost 120,000 for 40 minutes ending with CIP.

Love this forum. Lot of useful information. If you could entertain my questions as I am coming next week it will be greatly appreciated.

1) is there a place to find these kissing bars (ie. How do you find these places)? Also are they walk ins or do you need an appointment?

2) I'm likely going to try out King what Pho as mentioned here. Are Thai massage places easy to find or is it a toftt scenario?

3) at itaewon hill, what is a good price for alcohol and for extra service? Do I need to get a room?

4) are weekdays any good? Better to go after 8/9?

Sorry for asking too many questions, but trying to have some fun while I'm in Seoul. I'll be in Hongdae, then daegu and busan. I think Seoul would be the best place and then more down hill from there. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Mander;2719901]They can't bust people for kissing[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. Apparently they can and do bust kissbangs and raid their DBs! Sorry!

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2722309]Love this forum. Lot of useful information. If you could entertain my questions as I am coming next week it will be greatly appreciated..[/QUOTE]I hate to burst your bubble, but I think you will have a hard time finding a kissbang and ones that would accept foreigners. I wouldn't know where to look if I wasn't fluent in Korean and browse Korean hobby forums.

Having said that, Gangnam district would be your best bet. It's the hottest area in Seoul. Weekends can be crowded and weekdays during working hours should be best.

It would be best if you can get a Korean-speaking wingman. But there are many other ways to have a blast in Seoul and have amazing experience outside of shagging. Good luck!

Thanks for the tip. I'll probably go during work hours for Thai massage. For the KissBang do you search online or are there a sign like the spinning poles mentioned? Also any suggestion outside of shagging? LOL. Worse case, I'll have to go to Itaewon, but from prior reports, it seems pretty dead? Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Mander;2722457]I hate to burst your bubble, but I think you will have a hard time finding a kissbang and ones that would accept foreigners. I wouldn't know where to look if I wasn't fluent in Korean and browse Korean hobby forums.

Having said that, Gangnam district would be your best bet. It's the hottest area in Seoul. Weekends can be crowded and weekdays during working hours should be best.

It would be best if you can get a Korean-speaking wingman. But there are many other ways to have a blast in Seoul and have amazing experience outside of shagging. Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mander;2722452]I stand corrected. Apparently they can and do bust kissbangs and raid their DBs! Sorry![/QUOTE]In fact the police busted a kiss bang operating in Gangnam this week.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011318205?sid=102[/URL]

I had read in another recent article that the police are hoping to use circumstantial evidence such as databases and phone records to bust Johns. It was unclear to me whether this would actually be allowed under the law or not. It was also reported that most businesses use Google sheets so they can remotely delete files when there's trouble.

It does depend on what type of foreigner you are also. If you're of East Asian descent, it's usually easier to get in.

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2722585]Thanks for the tip. I'll probably go during work hours for Thai massage. For the KissBang do you search online or are there a sign like the spinning poles mentioned? Also any suggestion outside of shagging? LOL. Worse case, I'll have to go to Itaewon, but from prior reports, it seems pretty dead? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]

Listen, being secure is important. I know, I'm on probation (don't ask), so I know what you need to do to be safe.

First, create a Dingtone account, or similar service.

Buy and register a number to a foreign country.

Download Telegram.

Create a telegram account and pay to use a forigen number.

Telegram won't be able to send a text, but if you wait a few minutes you can request a phone call to request the verification code.

Boom you now have a telegram account attached to an overseas account (pigs can't do shit with thay).

Added security:

Set your number in privacy settings to not show your number.

Don't post too much data on yourself, see providers at hotels, amd never at home.

Don't post your ID.

Use secret chats with end to end encryption.

When you're done delete chats.

Use self-distruct feature, and delete threads on the other end too.

Use password feature.

Don't talk outside of Telegram using the features I mentioned, no matter what your dick tells you.

It's pretty hard to get caught unless yours balls deep in a woman, or openly providing identifying information and talking about sex in a way that can be saved. Or by confessing.

So, if busted:.

Call lawyer.

Don't confess.

Don't talk. Officers will act like your friends.

Plea deals don't exist in Korea.

Call a lawyer.

Don't be interrogated alone.

Thanks for addeding my TedTalk.

I'm Korean American. I can speak survival Korean but can't read. I've been searching and it seems like Kiss Bangs are booked online and no walk ins? Am I destined to hang out in Itaewon and Thai massage? LOL. I read the prior post and the crackdown was slated to end on June 30. Is the crackdown still happening? Anything other recommendation for fun while in Korea (sexual and non)? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2722754]It does depend on what type of foreigner you are also. If you're of East Asian descent, it's usually easier to get in.[/QUOTE]

You can make appointments or drop in at a lot of kids bangs. So you will be fine. Look up my posts. I posted a link to an old map that shows locations of kids bangs. Keep in mind it's old so some will probably not be there anymore. You can make it an exploration day and try to find some. I also posted a detailed description to find one I frequent when in Seoul in Hongdae. I'm almost certain they're still open. Go check it out. Report back. Get some names if the girl is attractive and let me know so I can ask for them when I go later this year LOL.

Looking forward to getting your report!

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2723240]I'm Korean American. I can speak survival Korean but can't read. I've been searching and it seems like Kiss Bangs are booked online and no walk ins? Am I destined to hang out in Itaewon and Thai massage? LOL. I read the prior post and the crackdown was slated to end on June 30. Is the crackdown still happening? Anything other recommendation for fun while in Korea (sexual and non)? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Super thanks for the response. I'll try to look up your prior post and see if I can find some of those places. I'm with my family so I might not get to go as much as I like. Sorry to ask so many questions but when are they active? Are they active in the daytime as well? Thanks again for the insights.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2723494]You can make appointments or drop in at a lot of kids bangs. So you will be fine. Look up my posts. I posted a link to an old map that shows locations of kids bangs. Keep in mind it's old so some will probably not be there anymore. You can make it an exploration day and try to find some. I also posted a detailed description to find one I frequent when in Seoul in Hongdae. I'm almost certain they're still open. Go check it out. Report back. Get some names if the girl is attractive and let me know so I can ask for them when I go later this year LOL.

Looking forward to getting your report![/QUOTE]

Yeah they're usually open during the daytime also. I don't remember the exact hours.

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2723819]Super thanks for the response. I'll try to look up your prior post and see if I can find some of those places. I'm with my family so I might not get to go as much as I like. Sorry to ask so many questions but when are they active? Are they active in the daytime as well? Thanks again for the insights.[/QUOTE]

I repeated at a familiar Hyugetel that has quickly become my local favorite. They don't have a large lineup of women, and my favorite recently left, but this Hyugetel generally offers good service. More importantly, it's a short walk away from my home and they always allow reservations on short notice. In fact, I usually have no problem booking within the hour.

Although the service is generally good, on my most recent experience the woman I chose said she was sensitive down south and refused DATY. She was also wary of spreading her legs and letting me catch an eyeful of her open pussy. This wasn't necessarily a deal breaker, but I prefer women who are a little more confidently erotic. I mean, half the reason I do this is because I'm a pussy connoisseur who likes to see, smell, and taste what I'm buying. Apologies for the vulgarity, but it's true. I'm always disappointed to be with a woman who just offers pump and dump service.

This woman turned out to be the epitome of the pump and dump. Even when I got behind her to start doggy style, she wasn't willing to arch her back. Instead she bent over and hunched. It was like she was deathly embarrassed to show me her asshole, which is unfortunate because I like to see. In the hunched position that she took, I couldn't even find her pussy, so she had to use her hand to guide me in.

All of this was particularly disappointing because this woman had a smoking hot body, but an below average face. Because her body was so nice, I had hoped to see every inch of it. I mean, I still got to play with her very real and very amazing tits, but I wanted more.

Such issues are why I like to repeat with women who have already proven that they know how to show me a good time. It's also why I'm disappointed when lineups change too frequently. These days I feel like I'm constantly trying to find what I seem to have lost, and then when I find it, it seems to slip away again.

If you go to kisstime in hongdae, the last time I went there, one of the girls I saw was named so dam. She only offered HJ but she was a nice girl who I think might be good for a first timer. I don't know if she still works there but you can ask for her if you go and report back.

[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2723819]Super thanks for the response. I'll try to look up your prior post and see if I can find some of those places. I'm with my family so I might not get to go as much as I like. Sorry to ask so many questions but when are they active? Are they active in the daytime as well? Thanks again for the insights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2724218]I repeated at a familiar Hyugetel that has quickly become my local favorite. They don't have a large lineup of women, and my favorite recently left, but this Hyugetel generally offers good service. More importantly, it's a short walk away from my home and they always allow reservations on short notice. In fact, I usually have no problem booking within the hour.

Although the service is generally good, on my most recent experience the woman I chose said she was sensitive down south and refused DATY. She was also wary of spreading her legs and letting me catch an eyeful of her open pussy. This wasn't necessarily a deal breaker, but I prefer women who are a little more confidently erotic. I mean, half the reason I do this is because I'm a pussy connoisseur who likes to see, smell, and taste what I'm buying. Apologies for the vulgarity, but it's true. I'm always disappointed to be with a woman who just offers pump and dump service.

This woman turned out to be the epitome of the pump and dump. Even when I got behind her to start doggy style, she wasn't willing to arch her back. Instead she bent over and hunched. It was like she was deathly embarrassed to show me her asshole, which is unfortunate because I like to see. In the hunched position that she took, I couldn't even find her pussy, so she had to use her hand to guide me in.

All of this was particularly disappointing because this woman had a smoking hot body, but an below average face. Because her body was so nice, I had hoped to see every inch of it. I mean, I still got to play with her very real and very amazing tits, but I wanted more.

Such issues are why I like to repeat with women who have already proven that they know how to show me a good time. It's also why I'm disappointed when lineups change too frequently. These days I feel like I'm constantly trying to find what I seem to have lost, and then when I find it, it seems to slip away again.[/QUOTE]I have one question. Probably the answer is somewhere in the forum but anyways. On hyugetels are you able to choose the girl in advance? Or its any girls that is available at the moment?

Thanks.

I think busts are dwindling but still happens.

Many kissbangs require screening, but I was told I should be able to find ones that doesn't do screening.

I plan to buy a USIM at the airport and use it to call & make appointments. Since I'm not a Korean citizen, and plan to be in the country for few weeks, I doubt they can do much.

There are many sites listing various venues, ads, and (exaggerated) reviews, but you need to be fluent in Korean (lots of jargons and acronyms) and deny access from foreign internet connection. I use VPN to get around that. I'm not sure if the ISG forum rule would allow me sharing the web site links.

I plan to be there in about a month and will write you guys a detailed reviews with phone numbers.

Any pointers / reviews on profiles from massage republic?

Has anyone tried someone? Any good profile recommendations?

[QUOTE=KingsMan89;2724387]I have one question. Probably the answer is somewhere in the forum but anyways. On hyugetels are you able to choose the girl in advance? Or its any girls that is available at the moment?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can choose.

Depending on the Hyugetel that you contact, you might be offered only one or two particular women on your first visit. Based on my experience, access opens up to the other women once you prove to be a good customer. Word seems to get around about the type of customer you are.

In case you're curious, it seems that most women who "refuse" to work with foreigners are worried about 1) penis size 2) rough sex 3) bad hygiene. If you have a big dick, but you can prove to be gentle with the way you use it, the other women will take you on. There are also plenty of women who have no qualms about a big dick and some who even relish it, but you'll have to shop around to find the special ladies who want to be pounded.

Also, depending on the day and time that you call, the Hyugetel might only have a subset of their lineup working. Sometimes, they might only have one woman working. If there's a particular women that you want, you just have to ask. Management will let you know whether she would be willing to work with you.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2725911]Any pointers / reviews on profiles from massage republic?

Has anyone tried someone? Any good profile recommendations?[/QUOTE]I'm also looking for some good MR recommendations. I have had good and cheap gunma sex and even yesterday I was at Dongducheon where I recieved passionate sex from a glasshouse girl than I've had in a long time for just 50 bucks. Most lie down and keep quiet but this girl liked what she was doing by all means.

But I just miss a fully passionate session with deep french kiss, some massage and CIM where possible. One good full session will put me back in line.

But you need to be careful here, Some MR girls could take 250 300 Bucks and prove worse than the cheaper sessions you've had with Korean establishments. Have a bucket list of I don't do this, I don't do that, don't put fingers in my pum pum etc Or some accept to do a kiss but can't go beyond light kisses without tongue.

I have had MR experiences but I can't recommend any as most are new on the site and the only one I really liked who gave me a full porn-star experience went back to Russia.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2726096]I'm also looking for some good MR recommendations. I have had good and cheap gunma sex and even yesterday I was at Dongducheon where I recieved passionate sex from a glasshouse girl than I've had in a long time for just 50 bucks. Most lie down and keep quiet but this girl liked what she was doing by all means.

But I just miss a fully passionate session with deep french kiss, some massage and CIM where possible. One good full session will put me back in line.

But you need to be careful here, Some MR girls could take 250 300 Bucks and prove worse than the cheaper sessions you've had with Korean establishments. Have a bucket list of I don't do this, I don't do that, don't put fingers in my pum pum etc Or some accept to do a kiss but can't go beyond light kisses without tongue.

I have had MR experiences but I can't recommend any as most are new on the site and the only one I really liked who gave me a full porn-star experience went back to Russia.[/QUOTE]Precisely my thoughts as well. Even Anmas are similar. I had a very bad experience at Castle. I will not be visiting any more Anmas after this experience. I am ok to pay. But I want quality and service. I guess the hunt for good quality is still on. MR looked like a good option. But from your response that also seems to be a 'hit and miss' setup.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2726894]Precisely my thoughts as well. Even Anmas are similar. I had a very bad experience at Castle. I will not be visiting any more Anmas after this experience. I am ok to pay. But I want quality and service. I guess the hunt for good quality is still on. MR looked like a good option. But from your response that also seems to be a 'hit and miss' setup.[/QUOTE]Honestly, my review is based on little data as I've only used the site just like 6 times and got like one and half worthy experiences. But the best escort I've ever had in Korea was off MR and she didn't even have reviews back then, and the less attractive, typical lay-down one had like 20 reviews or something. So, yeah "hit and miss" is in play here as well.

But this was last year mostly, which was the epitome of Covid, meaning far less providers. I've seen the number significantly increase on the site and these new ones even show their faces wc is a plus.

I kept an eye on a few new ones and I'm going to set up one probably over the weekend, I'll update on how it goes.

I was able to check out Superman Gold in Gangnam last night around 10:30 pm in the pouring rain. Took a taxi down there from my hotel and did not have much trouble finding it based on info from other boards. For those who can't read or write in Korean, it's about 50 m down the side alley / street where the Prudential Tower is. Closest subway station is Yangjae Line 3 (orange line). It was definitely busy at the time but was welcomed with open arms. Paid 250 k KRW and didn't receive or ask for change so not sure if the price has changed or not. Also not sure if they are foreigner friendly as I'm a gyopo with basic Korean skills.

I was asked what type of girl I wanted and simply told the lady I wanted someone very pretty with good service. Was given a locker key, changed out of my clothes, and showered up and brushed my teeth. Sat in a robe in the waiting room drinking some water for about 5 minutes before I was brought up the elevator to a little massage room. I let the lady know that I was not really interested in the massage and wanted to play ASAP. After about 10 minutes in the little massage room, the lady brought me up the elevator to meet Gyuri. I was pleasantly surprised as I've had some duds in the past at anmas over the past 15 years. Definitely a headturner if you saw her on the street in public. About 5'5", slender, very pretty face (I'm sure she's had some work. At the very least eyelid surgery) and friendly.

Gyuri brought me to the room, we sat on the bed and chatted for about 5-10 minutes about life while she was puffing her e-cig. Zero english on her end and she'd been to LA once awhile ago which was a sign that she was probably 30 ish.

She took off her outfit (pink cashmere sweater with and super short pink skirt) and was happy with what I saw. Again, she has the typical slim / slender hot Korean girl body (not toned as she hates the gym), MM small Cs, and a flat butt. Her ass was probably the worst part about her but certainly passable and it looked great in doggy.

Started making out with some nice DFK and then she went down for some aggressive BBBJ where she was able to DT me. BBBJ was a bit one note but the suction was very good so I was satisfied. Switched to some 69 where she was responsive but then I was ready for the main event. She put a cover on and then we went at it in mish, doggie, CG. Some fake moaning which was a bit off putting but it was still a great sight to see a hot Korean girl in every position. Finished off in the bag ramming her hard in doggy. No idea if CIM was on the menu as that is usually my MO but didn't want to ruin the mood. Service overall was fine or middling but her hotness more than made up for that.

We laid there for a bit chatting before I washed up and we said our goodbyes. She works at least 5 days a week from 9 pm until closing (usually around 7-8 am according to her).

Face 8. 5.

Body 7 (ass 5, everything else was at least a 7).

Service 7.

Next time I will likely ask for someone who is cute but has a dirty, freaky side with service. By the way, it's frigging impossible to catch a cab in Seoul at night. It was around 11:30 pm and I couldn't find a UT (Korean Uber) driver to take me back! Unfortunately I hadn't installed and setup of Kakao Taxi which may not have made any difference. After about 45 minutes in the rain (thankfully the staff at Superman provided me with an umbrella), I found a regular taxi.

[QUOTE=BigGuy3;2727169]I was able to check out Superman Gold in Gangnam last night around 10:30 pm in the pouring rain. Took a taxi down there from my hotel and did not have much trouble finding it based on info from other boards. For those who can't read or write in Korean, it's about 50 m down the side alley / street where the Prudential Tower is. Closest subway station is Yangjae Line 3 (orange line). It was definitely busy at the time but was welcomed with open arms. Paid 250 k KRW and didn't receive or ask for change so not sure if the price has changed or not. Also not sure if they are foreigner friendly as I'm a gyopo with basic Korean skills.

I was asked what type of girl I wanted and simply told the lady I wanted someone very pretty with good service. Was given a locker key, changed out of my clothes, and showered up and brushed my teeth. Sat in a robe in the waiting room drinking some water for about 5 minutes before I was brought up the elevator to a little massage room. I let the lady know that I was not really interested in the massage and wanted to play ASAP. After about 10 minutes in the little massage room, the lady brought me up the elevator to meet Gyuri. I was pleasantly surprised as I've had some duds in the past at anmas over the past 15 years. Definitely a headturner if you saw her on the street in public. About 5'5", slender, very pretty face (I'm sure she's had some work. At the very least eyelid surgery) and friendly.

Gyuri brought me to the room, we sat on the bed and chatted for about 5-10 minutes about life while she was puffing her e-cig. Zero english on her end and she'd been to LA once awhile ago which was a sign that she was probably 30 ish.

She took off her outfit (pink cashmere sweater with and super short pink skirt) and was happy with what I saw. Again, she has the typical slim / slender hot Korean girl body (not toned as she hates the gym), MM small Cs, and a flat butt. Her ass was probably the worst part about her but certainly passable and it looked great in doggy.[/QUOTE]Does anybody know if there are Korean Anma in LOS Angeles even if or hidden or in secret to Korean expats?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2727689]Does anybody know if there are Korean Anma in LOS Angeles even if or hidden or in secret to Korean expats?[/QUOTE]I don't know about LA, but with the large number of Koreans in the city I'm sure there's a thriving underground scene.

Up until a few years ago, there was a Korean Officetel network operating out of Seattle. It's been dismantled by the police, but what happened makes for an interesting read. You can check it out at the link below.

[URL]https://projects.seattletimes.com/2017/eastside-prostitution-bust/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2725911]Any pointers / reviews on profiles from massage republic?

Has anyone tried someone? Any good profile recommendations?[/QUOTE]I can vouche for Valentina, saw her a while back. She gives a good honest effort, her pics are accurate. Great curves.

I've been living out of a hotel for the last few months, enjoying the luxury. But, the whole time I kept thinking I'd really like to see an SP here. Finally I'm impulsively started to contact. One of the agencies / girls that operates only through email responded to me and agreed to meet. To my surprise she sent a whole body picture of what she was wearing, and it is exactly what she showed up in. I guess I have some tinted glasses as a white man, cause she looked real small, and when she showed up she looked that way too. But clothes off, she was on the chubby side, didn't have much shape at all, and lacked beauty, which really turned me off. But, she did work for the money, and for the entire hour she sucked and fucked me like crazy, despite me never cumming, she really never stoped trying or complained.

F6 B5 S9.

Repeat? No. Especially not for the price. To be honest, I am happy that I will return to Canada soon cause you can actually get real, veritfied, Korean and East Asian babes all hours of the day, unlike when you're in Korea. It is tough around here and tourism is up, and making it worse.

Had an amazing experience at a Hyugetel in Dongdaemun the other day. I'm pretty sure it is run by the same people who operated my previous favorite place in the neighborhood before it abruptly shut down a few months back.

Over the phone I booked Nana. After I arrived, I proceeded to have the best experience I've had in months, maybe even years.

I couldn't believe how good this lady was at her job. I don't know if she read my mind and gave me everything I wanted or whether she simply liked to fuck in the same exact way that I do, but I do know that the experience was unbelievable from start to finish. Writing about it after the fact, I'm a bit disappointed because she has moved on to another Hyugetel that is too far away for me to visit.

So, what made the experience special? Well, I could say she was enthusiastic, but it was more like she was voracious, but somehow not overly aggressive. Her sexual energy was simply amazing.

After showering together, she made out with me and she was a great kisser. She kissed so well that it felt like I was making out with a horny girlfriend.

Sitting side by side making out, she got up and straddle me. With her legs wrapped around my waste and my dick standing straight up between our bodies we locked our lips like a couple crazed sex fiends. At times she paused to pull away, make eye contact, and reassess how much fun we were having before going back at it. I couldn't believe how well things were going and I couldn't believe how much she liked to kiss. I usually have to ask women for this service and they only halfheartedly agree with the bare minimum of tongue, but this one took the initiative and I couldn't have been happier.

Oh, and she was gorgeous. She had a particularly beautiful face, great proportions, and perfectly smooth skin. Her only imperfection was a see section scar across her belly. She initially tried to hide the scar from me, but I didn't find it unflattering at all. If anything, her attempt to hide it was cute. It was almost as if she was worried that I wouldn't like her because of it.

Not only was she enthusiastic, gorgeous and kindhearted, but she was one of the rare ones who gets naturally wet. Oh, how I love women who don't reach for the lube. It's so much more fun to go from missionary to DATY to doggy to eating some ass without the worry of gel getting in my mouth. There's nothing quite as good as pure wet pussy and she stayed wet the entire time.

To top it off, after moving through a full set of positions, this lady rode me like no other woman has ever rode me before. I don't normally like when women get on top and grind their clit into my pubic bone, but this woman was pure sex. Every other woman who has ever done that move to me has done it so poorly that I got no pleasure from it; some have even given me mild discomfort, but this woman was a sex artist. The whole time she was on top she was having fun. She seemed to be getting off and she had no problem keeping me hard. Every time she reached down to kiss before going back up to grind was absolute bliss. It was the perfect amount of tease and I've never wanted anyone more. It was, to put it simply, fantastic.

To boot, when I had asked her earlier whether she was happy to be eaten out, she looked me straight in the eye and said "you can do anything you want", and I've never heard six sexier words spoken.

If she performs this well with all her customers, she's literally the hardest working woman in the business.

Would I repeat? Yes. I'm even contemplating making a trip all the out to her new Hyugetel in Incheon just to get another round.

50 min bbfscip 130,000 won.

I don't speak any Korean and all the information here is a bit overwhelming.

Would any of you gentlemen please recommend what the safest way to get some action would be for me? At this point I'd be happy with just an HJ too. Are these massage places with the cylindrical blow ups safe and would they offer any extras to foreigners? Officetels seem risky. What are Anmas exactly?

Thanks for the help in advance.

Have lurked around websites for a bit but after a lot of exploring I have some insight for foreigner looking to have fun in Korea keep in mind I speak 0 Korean and am American so If I could do it anyone can.

1 - Pyeongtaek RLD- if you are not Korean you will be rejected by 99% of the girls because the us army is near and they have some sort of agreement with them but I did manage to get in twice all it takes is for the girl to be having a bad night In my experience the girl was mid 30's some work done which isn't a bad thing and it was 100 k for 15 min foreigner price work done was BJ, riding, and missionary I would rate it a 6 /10.

2 - Yeongdenpo RLD- this is very similar to pyeongtaek but since my first visit girls are a lot more open to take in foreigners I would give it a 6.5/10 as the girl was better looking (no work done and still had a decent body) and she was willing to do doggy.

3 - Texas Miari. This is probably the best bang for your buck as a foreigner they are insanely open to foreigners and you get to choose a girl as a plus if you say "never mind" trying to get out you will get better prices I've gotten 80 k for 2 shots but those girls where just too bad haha girls here are also more receptive to your demands like if you want to switch positions I would rate my 4 experiences a (5/10) (6/10) (7/10) (7/10).

4 - Lyra anma. After so many RLD I decided my next experience would be an anma so after some research lyra is one of the most foreign friendly anmas but they are a bit more expensive at 300 k for foreigners for 1 hours and I should warn you I have heard negative experiences luckily mine was pretty good normally you don't get a message but I did since the girl was late. This is one of the reasons my experience was probably better than the normal foreigner because since the wait was around 30-40 min I got a very good girl like a solid 8/10 services provided where the usual only negative was the girl refused to go doggy which is why my experience drops to a 7.5/10.

5 - While I didn't get any service I was accepted into fish anma as an American that spoke 0 Korean but they said the wait time was like 1 hour and 30 min (it was a Sunday so they where packed) and the trains where about to close so I couldn't say how it is but I will report what type of service they give to foreigners who speak 0 Korean.

If anyone wants to explore I am down just message me this has turned into a fun hobby.

[QUOTE=Jpp92;2729542]I don't speak any Korean and all the information here is a bit overwhelming.

Would any of you gentlemen please recommend what the safest way to get some action would be for me? At this point I'd be happy with just an HJ too. Are these massage places with the cylindrical blow ups safe and would they offer any extras to foreigners? Officetels seem risky. What are Anmas exactly?

Thanks for the help in advance.[/QUOTE]With zero Korean, your best bet is to go to one of the RLDs mentioned in the forum. Some of the most popular were recently brought up by JoseRoonie.

Otherwise, visit a massage shop. Ones that offer 24 hour service or ones that are located in nightlife neighborhoods are your best bet. If there are lots of pool halls, restaurants, noraebangs, and other massage parlors, then you're in the right type of neighborhood. You can also track down one that has already been mentioned on the forum.

You almost certainly won't get a beauty at a massage shop, but you'll most likely get relief. The trick is to simply be forward. Sex is a universal word, so you can just say "sex" and check the reaction of the front desk worker. They won't be offended. They'll just yes or no. If you want to be even more forward, you can do the universal finger through hold gesture while raising your eyebrows.

Hand is also a term used in the Korean sex industry, so you can just ask for "hand". In the context of a massage parlor lobby, the one word will be enough to elicit a yes or no. If you're worried about clearly communicating your desires, you might want to add in a jerk off motion. Frankly speaking, a handjob is fairly standard service and most places will offer one.

To increase your chances even further, look for Swedish massage as it is a sensual service.

[QUOTE=Jpp92;2729542]I don't speak any Korean and all the information here is a bit overwhelming.

Would any of you gentlemen please recommend what the safest way to get some action would be for me? At this point I'd be happy with just an HJ too. Are these massage places with the cylindrical blow ups safe and would they offer any extras to foreigners? Officetels seem risky. What are Anmas exactly?

Thanks for the help in advance.[/QUOTE]Texas miari would be your best bet if your just trying to have fun. Its in a secluded area its a whole neighborhood so more privacy and also most of the old lady's bringing customers in speak English. Anmas are s*x message parlors you will get either a regular message or a sexual message followed s*x the only downside to anmas is they tend to be expensive especially for foreigners we often get the short end of the stick either you will not get the same service as native Koreans or you will be stuck with theolder / uglier girls if you take a gamble you could pay off big but most of the time its not worth.

[QUOTE=JoseRoonie;2729714]Have lurked around websites for a bit but after a lot of exploring I have some insight for foreigner looking to have fun in Korea keep in mind I speak 0 Korean and am American so If I could do it anyone can.

1 - Pyeongtaek RLD- if you are not Korean you will be rejected by 99% of the girls because the us army is near and they have some sort of agreement with them but I did manage to get in twice all it takes is for the girl to be having a bad night In my experience the girl was mid 30's some work done which isn't a bad thing and it was 100 k for 15 min foreigner price work done was BJ, riding, and missionary I would rate it a 6 /10.

2 - Yeongdenpo RLD- this is very similar to pyeongtaek but since my first visit girls are a lot more open to take in foreigners I would give it a 6.5/10 as the girl was better looking (no work done and still had a decent body) and she was willing to do doggy.

3 - Texas Miari. This is probably the best bang for your buck as a foreigner they are insanely open to foreigners and you get to choose a girl as a plus if you say "never mind" trying to get out you will get better prices I've gotten 80 k for 2 shots but those girls where just too bad haha girls here are also more receptive to your demands like if you want to switch positions I would rate my 4 experiences a (5/10) (6/10) (7/10) (7/10).

4 - Lyra anma. After so many RLD I decided my next experience would be an anma so after some research lyra is one of the most foreign friendly anmas but they are a bit more expensive at 300 k for foreigners for 1 hours and I should warn you I have heard negative experiences luckily mine was pretty good normally you don't get a message but I did since the girl was late. This is one of the reasons my experience was probably better than the normal foreigner because since the wait was around 30-40 min I got a very good girl like a solid 8/10 services provided where the usual only negative was the girl refused to go doggy which is why my experience drops to a 7.5/10.

5 - While I didn't get any service I was accepted into fish anma as an American that spoke 0 Korean but they said the wait time was like 1 hour and 30 min (it was a Sunday so they where packed) and the trains where about to close so I couldn't say how it is but I will report what type of service they give to foreigners who speak 0 Korean.

If anyone wants to explore I am down just message me this has turned into a fun hobby.[/QUOTE]Have you been to the Paju RLD?

I don't know if this has been said before but I saw a post recommending Suwon RLD.

I went there last night and it looks like it's completely gone. All the rooms that were still open are full of dust and some have construction materials in them. So just a heads up.

[QUOTE=JoseRoonie;2729714]
If anyone wants to explore I am down just message me this has turned into a fun hobby.[/QUOTE]Not possible as you're a regular member. You either need to wait until you become Senior or pay for a membership.

Thanks for the update though. I haven't been to an RLD or Anma in like 5 years.

[QUOTE=SandyRivers;2730200]I don't know if this has been said before but I saw a post recommending Suwon RLD.

I went there last night and it looks like it's completely gone. All the rooms that were still open are full of dust and some have construction materials in them. So just a heads up.[/QUOTE]From what I've heard most of the girls from Suwon RLD went to the city of Wonju and joined the RLDs there. Would like to see reports from Wonju glass houses.

Hey, been following this forum for a while and was hoping for some help. I don't particularly like the idea of paying for some good times but I am veryyy interested in kiss bangs.

Have read that Over the last few years there has been a lot of police attention.

Wondered if there were any in Seoul open to foreigners? My Google translate is the highest level of proficiency in Korean.

Thanks,

Big H.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2730123]Have you been to the Paju RLD?[/QUOTE]No do you recommend it? I am planning to o to Dongducheon Central Station RLD on my next adventure and will post an update.

They are open to foreigners (like American that can't speak Korean foreigner) I know during and after covid they where not so a lot of forums say they don't accept foreigners.

Since it was my first time I feel like I got the short end of the stick not taken to the downstairs lobby instead put in a room to wait the 20 min wait time and got an older girl not super ugly like a 5/10 the message was like in any other anma just shorter compared to my time in lyra the message was like 25 min and in fish it was around 15 maybe a bit less but it might be a good thing as you would get more time for sex if you can last that long. Sex was average she made up for her lack of beauty in her skill and was a lot more interactive compare to some girls who don't try I would say my experience was 5. 5/10 considering the 300 k I spent will go one more time to see if my experience is better as a repeat customer.

At the back of L7 Hotels in Hongdae is Kissing club that is open to foreigners. I got a BJ there 2 days after arriving in Korea. No Korean only Google Translate. Probably paid more than I should but it was my first time in Korea and I didn't know the rates.

[QUOTE=Hermesss;2730396]Hey, been following this forum for a while and was hoping for some help. I don't particularly like the idea of paying for some good times but I am veryyy interested in kiss bangs.

Have read that Over the last few years there has been a lot of police attention.

Wondered if there were any in Seoul open to foreigners? My Google translate is the highest level of proficiency in Korean..[/QUOTE]

Stopped by Fish last night before the rush around 7 pm. At the front desk, the 2 ladies originally showed me the regular menu (250 k 1 shot, 290 k 2 shots) and then when I started speaking my bad Korean (with an American accent. I am a gyopo), they pulled out the "waygookin" price menu which has 1 option 300 k won (approx $230 at 1300 W / Was a bit annoyed but they assured me that it would be 2 shots so really just paid a $10 k premium although I'm sure I didn't have my choice of every girl working. Was given a key to my locker and went down to the locker room where one of the ladies behind the desk came down there with me and asked what style of girl I wanted. Not sure if this is normal procedure as we sat right in the middle of the locker room waiting area where people usually smoke butts while waiting to go upstairs. Told the girl I wanted someone cuter style rather than sexy, glamourous and that good service was most important.

Showered up and waited a few minutes before I was led up the elevator. Opened up and met my girl Dajung. Age probably upper 20's if not 30. Cute face, about 5'4", solid mm see cups, fit but had typical Korean body with flat ass. Hair was shoulder length and had some highlights. Would rate her a 6.5 overall. She sat me down on a nice bar stool in the hallway where there were about 6 rooms with open doors. Started with a nice BBBJ with some good DT, then she slipped on the cover, pulled up her miniskirt and started riding me reverse CG for a minute or so. During this time, I'm hearing multiple girls getting rammed hard as this is an "open-style" anma meaning the doors are partially open (couldn't see inside the rooms) but you could certainly hear the action. Then she brought me into the room which is basically setup like a studio (sofa seating area, bed, and open bathroom w / showertable).

Dajung told me if I wanted 2 shots I would need to fire the first one over the next sequence of events. She called and asked for the "event service". I laid down on the bed and she started with a typical cat bath and eventually worked her way down to a good BBBJ again. The event girl comes in who was pretty hot probably a 7, long black hair, big mm d's and in black lingerie. Dajung comes up from the BBBJ and started licking my nipples and DFKing me while the event girl goes down for some great BBBJ. She commented on how thick and big I am (by American standards, lengthwise I'm about average at 7" but I've always heard from providers that I'm thick and girthy). I joking apologized in Korean which made them crack up. Event girl covers me up and hops on for reverse CG for a few minutes and then leaves the room. Dajung and I finish up with some BBBJ and then by going through multiple positions covered (mish, CG, RCG). Popped in the bag and round 1 was complete. Rinsed off real quick and then sat on the couch for about 10-15 minutes chatting about various things.

Time for round 2, Dajung has me lie face down on the bed. Typical cat bath again and then asks me to get up on all fours and starts with great rimming while rubbing my cock with lube for a solid 5 minutes or so. Flip over, more BBBJ, covered up and went to town again and finished up doggie. She was a trooper as she said towards the end of doggie that she was hurting so I politely finished as quickly as I could by ramming her even harder LOL. Super sweet girl, again not the hottest girl but definitely cute. Sounds like not all foreigners get this service as the previous review did not even allow the guy into the locker room but again I'm Korean-American with passable Korean skills with an American accent. Lastly, I should add that in the past, I know that customers could choose their girls via an iPad but I was told by Dajung that they stopped that practice since COVID. No idea if she was lying to me or not but who knows.

F 6.5.

Body 6. 5 (tits 7, ass 6 but not fat, just not a naturally beautiful shape).

S 8 (no CIM which always seems to be my experience in anmas otherwise I'd give her a 8.5 or 9).

Wanted to try out another Russian Hyugetel (Baekma) yesterday so contacted them on TG and explicitly let them know that I am a foreigner with zero Korean. Agreed with the manager to pay a 'foreigner' fee. Was called to the location in Yeoksam where I paid the guy 20% extra due to me being a foreigner.

Was given the directions to the place and I went in to find a Chinese looking provider who claimed to be half Russian (apparently half Russian and half Chinese). She then went on to reject me and said that she doesn't take foreigners. Was actually happy that I was getting a refund of my money as I didn't like her look at all (I was expecting a blonde and slim Caucasian look).

I then went back to my favorite haunt in Gangnam and had a good long session and massage with my favorite provider.

Curious to know from others, how does this work? The pimps seem kind of ok but the ladies refuse. Seems to be a sellers market here. The customers go, get paraded in front of the harlots and if they accept, then the customer pays.

This looks completely lopsided to me. During my time in Europe and NA, it was completely the other way around. In Korea consumerism has taken on a different context completely.

Seoul also seems starved of good quality providers. Most of the sessions that I have taken up have been sub par quality and service. I was able to cultivate a couple of ladies from different locations who are my regulars but they are not providers per se.

Any pointers that could help share some great quality options for foreigners in Seoul? Or is it the case that foreigners need to cultivate their own crop and find their own means?

Thanks for all the help guys.

I'm going to try a massage parlor today but I'm also curious about the kiss bang in hongdae that's been mentioned here. Would you all recommend going there alone as a non Korean speaking foreigner?

[QUOTE=JoseRoonie;2730406]No do you recommend it? I am planning to o to Dongducheon Central Station RLD on my next adventure and will post an update.[/QUOTE]I don't like Dongucheon RLD its to hidden and probably is really small. But would to hear reports on it.

[QUOTE=SandyRivers;2730565]At the back of L7 Hotels in Hongdae is Kissing club that is open to foreigners. I got a BJ there 2 days after arriving in Korea. No Korean only Google Translate. Probably paid more than I should but it was my first time in Korea and I didn't know the rates.[/QUOTE]Hi what was the total damage?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2730625]Curious to know from others, how does this work? The pimps seem kind of ok but the ladies refuse. Seems to be a sellers market here. The customers go, get paraded in front of the harlots and if they accept, then the customer pays.

This looks completely lopsided to me. During my time in Europe and NA, it was completely the other way around. In Korea consumerism has taken on a different context completely.[/QUOTE]Exactly! In many other countries it's the other way round. With your bucks in hand you're the boss but here, it's the provider who chooses you LOL. It felt weird at first getting rejected by a hooker but I'm getting used to it now, even when I get lined up and the provider refuses, I don't take offense. I just know it's for the best. However hot the girl looks, when they take you on reluctantly, you'll never get a good time, that's a proven fact!.

[QUOTE=LonelyAlone215;2728012]I can vouche for Valentina, saw her a while back. She gives a good honest effort, her pics are accurate. Great curves.[/QUOTE]I've seen this girl around on MR for sometime now and always wanted to check her out but I've been hesitant. But since you've vouched for her, seems it would be a good bang for my bucks.

Yes, the receptionist know's enough to tell you how much it costs for the room and to tell you to brush your teeth etc. Take google translate. Be nice to the girl and be patient and ask her what the service is.

Let me know how it goes. I've been twice and CIM both times good service.

[QUOTE=Jpp92;2730626]Thanks for all the help guys.

I'm going to try a massage parlor today but I'm also curious about the kiss bang in hongdae that's been mentioned here. Would you all recommend going there alone as a non Korean speaking foreigner?[/QUOTE]

It was 80 k for an hour in the room followed by another 100 k for the BJ with her clothes off. So 180 k overall. I paid about that to have a Thai woman delivered to my apartment and I banged her. The girl at the k bar was younger and had a better body but after I got the BJ I just wanted to bang her. Second time I went to the K club I paid 150 k for the same service with a different girl.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2731001]Hi what was the total damage?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SandyRivers;2731056]Yes, the receptionist know's enough to tell you how much it costs for the room and to tell you to brush your teeth etc. Take google translate. Be nice to the girl and be patient and ask her what the service is.

Let me know how it goes. I've been twice and CIM both times good service.[/QUOTE]Does that Hongdae kiss bang take on all foreigners or they have certain nationalities they do accept.

I've been getting good bangs in gunmas, glasshouses, outcall op etc but generally its like there's a rule of no kissing. Even if I don't get a BJ, I might want to try out kiss bangs for the first time, just for the experience.

I'm white, So I'm not sure about other races or colour. I went just for the experience. I'm looking good bang places. So far I've only had luck with a Kakao Massage place but they always say they're closed at weekends. I'm guessing they're busy and don't want to say no. But during the week they're fine.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2731120]Does that Hongdae kiss bang take on all foreigners or they have certain nationalities they do accept.

I've been getting good bangs in gunmas, glasshouses, outcall op etc but generally its like there's a rule of no kissing. Even if I don't get a BJ, I might want to try out kiss bangs for the first time, just for the experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles96;2731042]I've seen this girl around on MR for sometime now and always wanted to check her out but I've been hesitant. But since you've vouched for her, seems it would be a good bang for my bucks.[/QUOTE]Yea she was fun, her place that she hosts at was kinda shady, in a basement of a villa. The place was small. I'd host her, but with inflation got to be smart with my money.

Hope you have fun.

I'll be coming to town in a few weeks. What are my options. I'll have a few free nights. I'm staying in Incheon. What kind of options do I have and areas to go to. I don't mind out calls or going to places. Also what's the current damages now days. Pm me is fine. That's all for any info.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2731040]Exactly! In many other countries it's the other way round. With your bucks in hand you're the boss but here, it's the provider who chooses you LOL. It felt weird at first getting rejected by a hooker but I'm getting used to it now, even when I get lined up and the provider refuses, I don't take offense. I just know it's for the best. However hot the girl looks, when they take you on reluctantly, you'll never get a good time, that's a proven fact!.[/QUOTE]I agree that if you get taken on reluctantly, you will not get good service. But the other view is that if she likes my look, then why should I pay? Let's do it for free.

Seoul is pretty bad from a 'value for money' perspective. You need to pay 300 k+ for average quality and service. Alternatively you would need to cultivate your own connects and have fun. Which is a fairly long process but given what I have seen in Seoul, I am more inclined to find my own way. I have found out a few that I use frequently.

But I must admit, it is very disappointing for foreigners.

I had not had any luck with places in Jamsil before, but I always call when a new business posts an advertisement on the off chance that they will accept me.

And what would you know, I received an almost immediate response that I would be allowed to book a reservation at this brand new Hyugetel in Jamsil. Not only was I allowed, I was given first class service. Management spoke English and sent me photos of the officetel entrance so I wouldn't wind up on the wrong side of the building. With service like this, I was impressed.

The woman I met was 100% the woman I saw in the ad, but she did not offer the same standard of service I had received when booking. I got the distinct impression that the woman was not expecting a white man to knock on her door. She wasn't offended, but she was definitely surprised.

She told she was worried about my size. She then carefully watched me undress and took great interest in my penis. She even asked me to stretch it to get an understanding of what she would have to deal with. Frankly, she seemed a bit scared, but I assured her I would take it nice and slow, and she seemed to calm down. At this point she invited me to take a shower together.

After the shower, I followed through with my promise and kept things gentle and slow, but she still seemed uncomfortable. She winced occasionally and held her stomach as if to say "it hurts right here", but when I asked whether she was OK she assured me that she could handle it. However, she generally remained stiff and unpliable throughout, and toward the end, when I naturally thrusted harder and faster, she became even more uncomfortable. She even asked me to "please cum quickly". I felt a little bad, but I also thought that she might be in the wrong business if she can't handle very ordinary sex.

Throughout the entire event, I didn't change positions with her because I got the feeling that she wouldn't be into much more than missionary. She also wasn't really into kissing or DATY, and although she allowed both, she didn't enjoy either (she barely opened her mouth for a kiss and she only really let me lick around her pussy). However, she gave a decent, but short blowjob in the beginning.

In summary, although she was pretty, she wasn't really my cup of tea and I have no intention to return in the near future.

30 min bbfscip 110,00 won.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2731805]I had not had any luck with places in Jamsil before, but I always call when a new business posts an advertisement on the off chance that they will accept me.

And what would you know, I received an almost immediate response that I would be allowed to book a reservation at this brand new Hyugetel in Jamsil. Not only was I allowed, I was given first class service. Management spoke English and sent me photos of the officetel entrance so I wouldn't wind up on the wrong side of the building. With service like this, I was impressed.

The woman I met was 100% the woman I saw in the ad, but she did not offer the same standard of service I had received when booking. I got the distinct impression that the woman was not expecting a white man to knock on her door. She wasn't offended, but she was definitely surprised.

She told she was worried about my size. She then carefully watched me undress and took great interest in my penis. She even asked me to stretch it to get an understanding of what she would have to deal with. Frankly, she seemed a bit scared, but I assured her I would take it nice and slow, and she seemed to calm down. At this point she invited me to take a shower together.

After the shower, I followed through with my promise and kept things gentle and slow, but she still seemed uncomfortable. She winced occasionally and held her stomach as if to say "it hurts right here", but when I asked whether she was OK she assured me that she could handle it. However, she generally remained stiff and unpliable throughout, and toward the end, when I naturally thrusted harder and faster, she became even more uncomfortable. She even asked me to "please cum quickly". I felt a little bad, but I also thought that she might be in the wrong business if she can't handle very ordinary sex.

Throughout the entire event, I didn't change positions with her because I got the feeling that she wouldn't be into much more than missionary. She also wasn't really into kissing or DATY, and although she allowed both, she didn't enjoy either (she barely opened her mouth for a kiss and she only really let me lick around her pussy). However, she gave a decent, but short blowjob in the beginning.

In summary, although she was pretty, she wasn't really my cup of tea and I have no intention to return in the near future.

30 min bbfscip 110,00 won.[/QUOTE]Can you tell me that hugetel name or where you find it? Please guide me. I'm fluent in korean.

[QUOTE=Jack220;2731924]Can you tell me that hugetel name or where you find it? Please guide me. I'm fluent in korean.[/QUOTE]If you're fluent in Korean, you'll have a pretty easy job finding a Hyugetel. Register for an account on Opgani8 and start making calls. There are a handful of other sites that offer similar information, but Opgani8 is by the far the best of the bunch.

Despite your request, I won't reveal the exact names of the Hyugetels where I'm a customer. At some places I'm their only foreign customer and I don't want any blowback. At others I know they have a handful of other foreign customers, but they're all guys who have found their own way to the Hyugetel. Despite the fact that they are frequented by other foreigners, there are just too many possible things that could go wrong if I publicly reveal too much information, so I will continue to keep my lips sealed shut.

Regardless, I think anyone with Korean language skills and a little bit of patience will be able to find a place to book an appointment. I've given the following advice previously, but as I can see that you're new to the forum, I'll offer it again. Set aside 30 minutes in the late afternoon or early evening and call 10 or 20 businesses and ask to make an appointment. If you decide to call 20, you'll get a lot of rejections but you'll definitely get a green light from at least one of them.

Using the method above I've visited well over 20 different Hyugetels in the past couple of years. Unfortunately, these businesses close just as often as they open, which means that I also have to regularly cold call new numbers to see whether they will take me on. In other words, I practice what I preach.

I currently have five Hyugetels in Seoul that I visit, but most of my business go to the three that seem to have the best women on staff. In addition, I've got three in Bundang that told me they would allow me to book an appointment. Frankly speaking, I don't know that I will visit the ones in Bundang because I have so many surefire places closer to home.

Good luck. If things work out, post a report.

[QUOTE=BigGuy3;2730578]Stopped by Fish last night before the rush around 7 pm. At the front desk, the 2 ladies originally showed me the regular menu (250 k 1 shot, 290 k 2 shots) and then when I started speaking my bad Korean (with an American accent. I am a gyopo), they pulled out the "waygookin" price menu which has 1 option 300 k won (approx $230 at 1300 W / Was a bit annoyed but they assured me that it would be 2 shots so really just paid a $10 k premium although I'm sure I didn't have my choice of every girl working. Was given a key to my locker and went down to the locker room where one of the ladies behind the desk came down there with me and asked what style of girl I wanted. Not sure if this is normal procedure as we sat right in the middle of the locker room waiting area where people usually smoke butts while waiting to go upstairs. Told the girl I wanted someone cuter style rather than sexy, glamourous and that good service was most important.

Showered up and waited a few minutes before I was led up the elevator. Opened up and met my girl Dajung. Age probably upper 20's if not 30. Cute face, about 5'4", solid mm see cups, fit but had typical Korean body with flat ass. Hair was shoulder length and had some highlights. Would rate her a 6.5 overall. She sat me down on a nice bar stool in the hallway where there were about 6 rooms with open doors. Started with a nice BBBJ with some good DT, then she slipped on the cover, pulled up her miniskirt and started riding me reverse CG for a minute or so. During this time, I'm hearing multiple girls getting rammed hard as this is an "open-style" anma meaning the doors are partially open (couldn't see inside the rooms) but you could certainly hear the action. Then she brought me into the room which is basically setup like a studio (sofa seating area, bed, and open bathroom w / showertable).

Dajung told me if I wanted 2 shots I would need to fire the first one over the next sequence of events. She called and asked for the "event service". I laid down on the bed and she started with a typical cat bath and eventually worked her way down to a good BBBJ again. The event girl comes in who was pretty hot probably a 7, long black hair, big mm d's and in black lingerie. Dajung comes up from the BBBJ and started licking my nipples and DFKing me while the event girl goes down for some great BBBJ. She commented on how thick and big I am (by American standards, lengthwise I'm about average at 7" but I've always heard from providers that I'm thick and girthy). I joking apologized in Korean which made them crack up. Event girl covers me up and hops on for reverse CG for a few minutes and then leaves the room. Dajung and I finish up with some BBBJ and then by going through multiple positions covered (mish, CG, RCG). Popped in the bag and round 1 was complete. Rinsed off real quick and then sat on the couch for about 10-15 minutes chatting about various things.

Time for round 2, Dajung has me lie face down on the bed. Typical cat bath again and then asks me to get up on all fours and starts with great rimming while rubbing my cock with lube for a solid 5 minutes or so. Flip over, more BBBJ, covered up and went to town again and finished up doggie. She was a trooper as she said towards the end of doggie that she was hurting so I politely finished as quickly as I could by ramming her even harder LOL. Super sweet girl, again not the hottest girl but definitely cute. Sounds like not all foreigners get this service as the previous review did not even allow the guy into the locker room but again I'm Korean-American with passable Korean skills with an American accent. Lastly, I should add that in the past, I know that customers could choose their girls via an iPad but I was told by Dajung that they stopped that practice since COVID. No idea if she was lying to me or not but who knows.

F 6.5.

Body 6. 5 (tits 7, ass 6 but not fat, just not a naturally beautiful shape).

S 8 (no CIM which always seems to be my experience in anmas otherwise I'd give her a 8.5 or 9).[/QUOTE]Nice report. Sounds like a fun experience.

However, it's ridiculous in a very funny way that they have a separate menu with a 3% price increase for people born outside of Korea. Reading that part of your report made me laugh out loud.

Visite Valentina from Massage Republic last night and it was a great experience.

Pictures match the profile so you know exactly what you're getting. She speaks perfect English and was easy to get an appointment with. She gave me her location in Seocho and when I arrived I was given the door number. Nice big apartment building. From the moment I got there she made me feel welcome. Her body was amazing, you can tell she puts in the work to keep it looking good. As soon as I handed over the cash she went straight into it and I had a shower before the main show began. She likes to try and control the situation but she's also open to letting you do what you like. Her mouth technique is good and she maintains eye contact and gets into it. I went through a few positions and finished after around 30 minutes. Paid 300 k but it was worth every penny. Fantastic experience.

Terrible first experience at a Thai massage place in Seongbuk-gu. 5/10 slightly chubby girl who knew English walked in and was pretty forward from the beginning. Made me get fully naked and was touching my dick slightly while massaging. Then she asked for 300 k for just an HJ which I obviously said no to. Tried bringing down the price but she didn't go below 200. She kept trying to make my horny but I'm stubborn too so I pretended to just enjoy the massage. She seemed pretty frustrated by the end.

[QUOTE=SandyRivers;2730565]At the back of L7 Hotels in Hongdae is Kissing club that is open to foreigners. I got a BJ there 2 days after arriving in Korea. No Korean only Google Translate. Probably paid more than I should but it was my first time in Korea and I didn't know the rates.[/QUOTE]Is it Secret K or K Hongdae? I can't see a K Club.

K+ in a big pink letters above it. Behind L7 Hotels Hongdae. 2 F.

[QUOTE=JustLooking193;2732754]Is it Secret K or K Hongdae? I can't see a K Club.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SandyRivers;2732986]K+ in a big pink letters above it. Behind L7 Hotels Hongdae. 2 F.[/QUOTE]Went here today and it was amazing. Receptionist spoke perfect English. Brushed my teeth, waited 5 min in the room and a hot 8/10 Korean girl with a perfect body walked in. Must be in her early 20's, very friendly. Had no problem convincing her to have sex. Paid 150 k. I actually couldn't believe it happened because I've read so much here since about Korean girls not wanting to do it with foreigners. Thanks a lot at SandyRivers.

What service level do lip cafes offer? Is it similar to hyugetels?

[QUOTE=Sjoveren;2733230]What service level do lip cafes offer? Is it similar to hyugetels?[/QUOTE]Just really good BJs. You can choose topless or full nude and other options but that's about it.

Did you find a place that would allow you in?

Another Hyugetel in Jamsil accepted me. On two previous attempts, I had been refused, but I called back a third time because the quality of the women continued to entice me. Not only were the photos great, but the reviews were also overwhelmingly positive.

I don't know what prompted their change of heart, but it was welcome news that I would be allowed to book an appointment.

Over the phone, the Hyugetel requested my ID card, then told me that if I was late, I would be blacklisted. I've never received such a direct threat before, but I understand the risk they take when accepting a new customer. I imagine that they were particularly concerned to take on a non-Korean customer.

Of course, I arrived on time and when the door opened I immediately noticed that the lady looked exactly like she did in her photos. Short hair, great smile, huge tits, thin waste, and a tight ass. Moreover, she was wrapped up in sexy fishnet lingerie that got my heart racing. I couldn't have been more excited.

After a quick chat, I learned that I was indeed the first white guy she had seen in her three years since coming to Korea. I also found out that she's married and has a young daughter in Thailand. Our brief chat broke the ice and from that point she was 100% committed to giving me a fun time.

After a bit of kissing she pushed me down on the bed to lick my nipples and suck my dick and balls. She had a mouth like a vacuum. A little too much suction for my liking, but A+ for effort. Next time I'll either tell her to let up a bit and take it easy or opt for the CIM because I'm sure she'd be able to suck out every last drop.

In missionary, she put on a show, squeezing her big tits together for me and making a whole bunch of sexy and cute expressions to keep me hard. She had quite a convincing sexy, pouty, baby face and even did the tongue out ahegao thing that's popular among weebs. It was certainly fun to watch, and as a pure performance it was a step beyond just moaning, but it was also just fun and silly which made for a good atmosphere and positive vibes. I also liked that her room wasn't particularly dark. She left plenty of mood light on to illuminate every bit of her body.

All in all, she was a great partner and it was clear that she put a lot of effort into making sure I had a good time. Most importantly, she gave lots of eye contact and she was a good kisser as well. She also took the initiative and rode me like a champ. She moved from cowgirl to reverse cowgirl, before bending forward for doggy where I was able to give her a good pounding.

Her asshole, however, was completely off limits. She didn't want it to be licked or even rubbed. Although I like to play with a woman's asshole, I realize that some women are adverse to it. Fair enough. I understand it's not everyone's idea of a good time.

Will I return? Definitely. Will I ask for the same woman? Indeed. 50 min bbfscip 130,000 won.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2733443]Just really good BJs. You can choose topless or full nude and other options but that's about it.

Did you find a place that would allow you in?[/QUOTE]Been here a little while now. One hyugetel and one opi experience so far. Both were good experiences.

A little difficult but can be done with basic Korean skills.

I get that it's also the right of the girls to refuse clients just like I can turn around and walk away if I show up and I'm not happy with the girl opening the door. As soon as I am refused I accept and just move on.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2730625]I then went back to my favorite haunt in Gangnam and had a good long session and massage with my favorite provider…[/QUOTE]Hi Buddy1978, I think I've already seen a message where you mentioned about this. Like you, I also enjoy sometimes some casual place, it can be quite surprising as well. I'm curious if you could recommend that place, or at least give some hint thanks!

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2566803]Sukko Thai in Gangnam is here [URL]http://kko.to/cAX6mvCDB[/URL].

It's about 5 minutes from Gangnam Station exit 1.

If you can read Korean you can find a discount ad on Maminjok, or else it's full price from the menu at the counter. Maybe 50 k or 60 k for 1 hour Thai massage.

Get in the room, standard procedure. My masseuse was over 35, probably close to 40. Lots of tattoos and thick. She said she has been massaging for 10 years. She gave a good massage. Started playing with junior to get him hard before offering "service. ".

It was okay but I don't think I will go again.

Before Sukko I tried to hit Thai25 around the corner on the 4th floor. [URL]http://kko.to/dQ0YkXCDo[/URL] Close to exits 4 and 1 of Gangnam.

But I stepped out of the elevator and the first question was do you have a reservation. I didn't so it was bye-bye.

Some places only take reservations but I don't want my phone number to end up on a list.[/QUOTE]Hi JookMeUp. What kind of service did you get, HJ?

I'm testing these days Thai places (especially in Gangnam area), I'm curious about your experience. Did you check anything else since that post?

[QUOTE=Sjoveren;2733591]Been here a little while now. One hyugetel and one opi experience so far. Both were good experiences.

A little difficult but can be done with basic Korean skills.

I get that it's also the right of the girls to refuse clients just like I can turn around and walk away if I show up and I'm not happy with the girl opening the door. As soon as I am refused I accept and just move on.[/QUOTE]I am reasonably sure that the reverse transaction (albeit we not liking the girl) is fairly complex. If the girl doesn't like us, it's a full refund (although I had to pay 15-20 k a couple of times to the pimp even in such cases), but if we don't like the girl and want to walk away, what's the damage? Does anyone know? What's the charge that's taken by the pimp? I had to pay 50 k to one pimp to walk from one girl in one of the Hyugetels. I am not sure of the Anmas and other establishments though, I am assuming the charge is even more there.

I have ended up building my own connects and am a frequent visitor at a few places. Those are the only places where I get the quality that I am looking for. But I pay a lot more directly to my partner but frankly I prefer paying more to the one that I like, rather than paying 300 k to below average providers that I generally get at Anmas and a few Hyugetels.

I wish the reverse transaction were that simple. It would certainly help explore what the city has to offer and find options that are suitable.

[QUOTE=PleasureHunt;2734071]Hi JookMeUp. What kind of service did you get, HJ?

I'm testing these days Thai places (especially in Gangnam area), I'm curious about your experience. Did you check anything else since that post?[/QUOTE]HJ service received.

I tried Sion Thai near Jonggak station and one near Samgakji on 3rd floor but don't recall the name. I wouldn't recommend those places.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2734461]HJ service received.

I tried Sion Thai near Jonggak station and one near Samgakji on 3rd floor but don't recall the name. I wouldn't recommend those places.[/QUOTE]Umh that's what I thought. Thanks for your reply anyway! There must be more places like what pho in Hongdae! Well for sure a couple of years ago. I used to go around Annyang (Gyeonggi-do), at least 4 places there, no reservation, nop notch selection, damn I missed that time.

Greetings fellow mongers,

Would anyone happen to know of any femdom establishments in Korea or websites to contact mistresses? I know that in China there is a website called "cnqueens" that has a list of mistresses that you can contact ([URL]https://www.cnqueens.net/queens[/URL]), so if there is a website that is similar please let me know. Thank you!

The results of the summer crackdown were recently summarized.

From what I gather, Korea has been cited as having a poor human rights record regarding the way it has turned a blind eye to human trafficking. In recent years, the US government has been putting pressure on Korea to intervene. I think it's safe to say that the crackdowns were a show of good faith to intergovernmental organizations and nonprofits who exaggerate the evils of sex work and prioritize the abolition of prostitution. Now the Korean government can point to the work it has done and prove that it's a responsible member of the international community.

If you read the article below, you'll notice that no Korean prostitutes were impacted by the recent crackdowns. The crackdowns weren't meant to strike a blow to prostitution in general but to merely deter brothels that import talent from Thailand, China, Russia etc. In the end, the crackdown seems to have had almost no impact on the business.

For what it's worth, based on my limited knowledge, there's absolutely no shortage of women.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0000835206?sid=102[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2734764]The results of the summer crackdown were recently summarized.

From what I gather, Korea has been cited as having a poor human rights record regarding the way it has turned a blind eye to human trafficking. In recent years, the US government has been putting pressure on Korea to intervene. I think it's safe to say that the crackdowns were a show of good faith to intergovernmental organizations and nonprofits who exaggerate the evils of sex work and prioritize the abolition of prostitution. Now the Korean government can point to the work it has done and prove that it's a responsible member of the international community.

If you read the article below, you'll notice that no Korean prostitutes were impacted by the recent crackdowns. The crackdowns weren't meant to strike a blow to prostitution in general but to merely deter brothels that import talent from Thailand, China, Russia etc. In the end, the crackdown seems to have had almost no impact on the business.[/QUOTE]The girls I see on the outside have all been in a panic, turns out most of the hits were based on intel from disgruntled Korean men. Had 2 of my usual deported but picked up 2 more. They also cracked down on the brokers the girls use.

Speaking to the girls they anticipate a new influx of talent in coming within a month or two. Oh and for your viewing entertainment I have attached a pic of the latest addition.

[QUOTE=Jason1231;2734560]Greetings fellow mongers,

Would anyone happen to know of any femdom establishments in Korea or websites to contact mistresses? I know that in China there is a website called "cnqueens" that has a list of mistresses that you can contact ([URL]https://www.cnqueens.net/queens[/URL]), so if there is a website that is similar please let me know. Thank you![/QUOTE]Your best bet is twitter the little blue bird to find a Femdom in Korea.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2734764]
For what it's worth, based on my limited knowledge, there's absolutely no shortage of women.
[/QUOTE]You mean to say that it's an op without much depth or breadth; really only meant as a media grab?

Who would have thought. .

You got sex. I'm Jealous. I didn't even ask because I assumed it was off the cards.

[QUOTE=Jpp92;2733207]Went here today and it was amazing. Receptionist spoke perfect English. Brushed my teeth, waited 5 min in the room and a hot 8/10 Korean girl with a perfect body walked in. Must be in her early 20's, very friendly. Had no problem convincing her to have sex. Paid 150 k. I actually couldn't believe it happened because I've read so much here since about Korean girls not wanting to do it with foreigners. Thanks a lot at SandyRivers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2734764]The results of the summer crackdown were recently summarized.

From what I gather, Korea has been cited as having a poor human rights record regarding the way it has turned a blind eye to human trafficking. In recent years, the US government has been putting pressure on Korea to intervene. I think it's safe to say that the crackdowns were a show of good faith to intergovernmental organizations and nonprofits who exaggerate the evils of sex work and prioritize the abolition of prostitution. Now the Korean government can point to the work it has done and prove that it's a responsible member of the international community.

If you read the article below, you'll notice that no Korean prostitutes were impacted by the recent crackdowns. The crackdowns weren't meant to strike a blow to prostitution in general but to merely deter brothels that import talent from Thailand, China, Russia etc. In the end, the crackdown seems to have had almost no impact on the business.[/QUOTE]Sadly crackdowns aren't officially over! And many people think they are here to stay for at least the year or so.

People have been talking a lot on the adult Korean forums how the "golden age" of adult entertainment is on the decline with rising prices to play as well as continued crackdowns. The crackdown comes from a few things just as you mentioned above, but also a new presidency, as well as COVID being a good opportunity to crack down on these already struggling adult businesses.

The crackdowns might have lessened for sure but there was another last week.

They just happen to hit different cities and clear them and then move onto a new city.

But I do have to say that a lot of fresh foreign talent has disappeared. Just seems to be the same couple dozen girls over and over again.

Thank you for the information as well though! Good stuff as always.

Hello,

A foreigner here from Asia which will visit SK in 1 week, anyone keen to survey and go together?

Interested in anma / kiss bang. Feel free to find me if you guys wanted to find and go together!

[QUOTE=KnightMare99;2734904]Hello,

A foreigner here from Asia which will visit SK in 1 week, anyone keen to survey and go together?

Interested in anma / kiss bang. Feel free to find me if you guys wanted to find and go together![/QUOTE]Another foreigner here that will be there around the same time actually.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2734461]HJ service received.

I tried Sion Thai near Jonggak station and one near Samgakji on 3rd floor but don't recall the name. I wouldn't recommend those places.[/QUOTE]I've also tried that spot on the 3rd floor and also would not recommend. Its on opgani as a swedish place, too expensive for what it is.

Looking to see where to stay.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2734900]Sadly crackdowns aren't officially over! And many people think they are here to stay for at least the year or so.

People have been talking a lot on the adult Korean forums how the "golden age" of adult entertainment is on the decline with rising prices to play as well as continued crackdowns. The crackdown comes from a few things just as you mentioned above, but also a new presidency, as well as COVID being a good opportunity to crack down on these already struggling adult businesses.

The crackdowns might have lessened for sure but there was another last week.

They just happen to hit different cities and clear them and then move onto a new city.

But I do have to say that a lot of fresh foreign talent has disappeared. Just seems to be the same couple dozen girls over and over again.

Thank you for the information as well though! Good stuff as always.[/QUOTE]I had read about the crackdowns in Wonju and Daegu. However, those crackdowns seemed to differ from the undercover operations that recently took place in Seoul.

If I understand the reports correctly, the issues taking place outside of Seoul seem entirely related to redevelopment. In Wonju and Daegu the government is going after entire neighborhoods much in the same way that Seoul already went after Cheongnyangri and Cheonho. I guess the prospect of being able to build out and sell entire neighborhoods is just too enticing for government cronies to ignore.

This might also explain why government is not closing down Anmas. Although Ga-in, Tiffanies, Superman-Gold and the like operate out in the open with only the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability (they are massage shops after all), they only take up a single plot of land and thus don't present the same opportunity to developers. It's only when Anmas don't pay taxes that they get busted.

The "golden age" may be over, but it will probably be replaced by something better. There will probably just be more and more online brokered services. Most people prefer the anonymity of online transactions and the ease of use of choosing a lady from a menu on a mobile phone.

Thankfully, online sex brokering will be almost impossible to stop. If the government thinks they can stop it, they're in for a game of whack-a-mole with new businesses replacing each one they take down.

I read that it was extremely hard for the police in Seoul to carry out their recent busts. Reports mentioned that when police tried to carry out crackdowns in the past, officers getting kickbacks routinely warned operators. Corrupt cops even provided operators with license plate numbers of unmarked police vehicles as well as phone numbers which were to be used in sting operations. Because of such corruption, the government created a task force allowed to work outside the bounds of precinct jurisdiction. It wasn't clear to me whether this was a temporary or permanent solution, but knowing Korea, it's likely not to last.

In other news, last month a Korean living in the Philippines was extradited for running an online gambling and sex brokering website. I hadn't heard of the site that was mentioned in the article, but it seemed to have been geared toward older clientele.

Do you know whether the police are doing undercover work in other parts of the country?

I have a 16.5 hour layover in Incheon. Can anyone give any suggestions which are worth it?

Gentlemen, I have to share this gem with all of you that are true connoisseurs or those that have the manners and appreciation of the art. I had a sratch in my walet to try MR since the tel's I have hit seem to be busy or dry. Jesus christ I found a gem that just arrived in Seoul. First I will say do not be alarmed by the price listed in talking with her she said she has it at that level to keep agencies and Koreans off her back. So here goes.

I messaged her and she responded within 10 minutes, which was nice. From her reply I could tell she was already playful and enthusiastic. Of course you all know I am a daytime play type of guy. So I asked sbout the price and was quoted 300 USD for an hour. Now I know people are hitting up Anmas and such getting 2 shots for that so I asked how many shots and her playful reply was " I hope you can do more than 1 because I like for you to cum rest and fuck again". HELLO so I said what if I can do it more that 2 times and she said " the more the better". Now based on the back and forth and her pics " which I thought had to be photoshooped I decided to pull the trigger. She hosted in her hotel which is nice gave me the hotel name and room number so I grabbed the keys and headed out.

Arrived knocked and was expecting something different from the photos which is what I got. GAWD DAMN the photos do not even do her justice just by looking at her the J was almost at full attention. We had some small talk handed her the money and away we went. Had some deep french kissing, she has these full lips that are amazing. These perfect enhance breasts that are not hard and not hanging. She went down to my member that was at full attention and when I say the BJ skills were good I mean there are good. Right ammount of spit, slurping sounds just fucking perfect. I almost shot right then. I laid her on her back for some DATY I licked for about 2 minutes and this minx said " fuck me please I am so ready, I want you to fuck me". She was nice and naturally wet and I slide right in and that girl has a Kung Fun grip. Now you boys know I can last but nope it was back to being 16 again I was ready to pop in like 2. 5 minutes between her moans " not fake" she could tell I wanted to cum so she said "Pull it out and shoot it on me, I want to see how much you have" that did it I pulled out and dumped. She let out this cute little giggle that made my J start standing again but I am not a young man anymore so I laid down next to her thinking she was getting up to shower but she just wiped it with a towel and laid there like we had known each other. We had some small talk and petting and imI was ready to go again so she climbed on top still wet and rode me with the enthusiasm of a pornstar looking up at that long black hair enhanced melons seeing her arch her back I knew she was enjoying it she let out a yell and shake as she came. I flipped her doggy and gave it my best this girl put a while knew meaning to cat pose. Squeezing that perfect bubble but I had to nut. I pulled it out and shot to about mid back. Collapsed and thought no way can I do 3. But god damn it after a piss and small talk I was ready again. I honestly cannot even remember the 3rd because I was in a Fuck Coma. So fellas if you are thinking of hitting a run of the mill anama or a tel and getting a star fish use your coins wisely. You know I play my cards close to my chest but I have to share this one because unlike tel's she can screen for herself. Check MR for Nanavip. She said she was going to Gangnam for a few days and you're damn skippy I am riding this train again. Bon, Peanuts, Taco give her a spin.

Attached for your viewing pleasure.

So I decided to try a kiss bang and went to Sillim so I walk In (the first door doesn't work so you have to go in through the back door in case you get the same problem) the receptionist spoke English luckily paid 50 k for 30 min the girl was alright nothing bad but she was in her early 30's and had a slim body so around 10 min FK and touching (I could undress shirt and braw but she made small moves to suggest no undressing below) after I requested BJ and it was another 50 k and she made up for her looks with the BJ also got 2 shots maybe because we had time but I don't know she also allowed me to take control during the 2nd shot so overall for 100 k it was a good experience.

Went to a gunma spa in apgu a few days ago .

Damage: 18.

Course: full service 20 min + 50 min massage + full service 20 min.

Was my first spa experience and I think its definitely better than your regular gunma experience!

Entered, paid, showered and then relaxed in the spa pools for a bit before I was called to my room.

The service lady was slim, tall and in her early 30's. Long black hair, but sadly no ass, but decent be cup tits.

Started off with a slow BJ before we put on the wrapper and went cowgirl and then doggy to finish.

She cleans me up and then the massage lady comes in.

The massage lady was in her 40/50's. We make some small casual small talk and the massage was great and she seemed to have been a professional or had some sort of schooling in some sort.

Near the end of the massage she flips me over and starts playing with the boys and my asshole and gives me a light teasing handjob to get me hard again.

The same service lady enters again and she begins to suck me off before we put on the wrapper and we fuck this time in missionary then cowgirl again for round 2 and I finish, leaving myself drained.

Washed up and entered the spa again and then went home afterwards .

9/10 experience, the only downside is that since the spa is public of course you have to share with other strangers. Good value for the buck.

Also some people might ask but I'm pretty sure you cannot DATY or kiss. This place since it also has a shared space is not available for foreigners: see.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2736376]Went to a gunma spa in apgu a few days ago .

Damage: 18.

Course: full service 20 min + 50 min massage + full service 20 min.

Was my first spa experience and I think its definitely better than your regular gunma experience!

Entered, paid, showered and then relaxed in the spa pools for a bit before I was called to my room.

The service lady was slim, tall and in her early 30's. Long black hair, but sadly no ass, but decent be cup tits.

Started off with a slow BJ before we put on the wrapper and went cowgirl and then doggy to finish.

She cleans me up and then the massage lady comes in..[/QUOTE]Does anyone know of spas like this one that do accept foreigners?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2736289]Gentlemen, I have to share this gem with all of you that are true connoisseurs or those that have the manners and appreciation of the art. I had a sratch in my walet to try MR since the tel's I have hit seem to be busy or dry. Jesus christ I found a gem that just arrived in Seoul. First I will say do not be alarmed by the price listed in talking with her she said she has it at that level to keep agencies and Koreans off her back. So here goes.

I messaged her and she responded within 10 minutes, which was nice. From her reply I could tell she was already playful and enthusiastic. Of course you all know I am a daytime play type of guy. So I asked sbout the price and was quoted 300 USD for an hour. Now I know people are hitting up Anmas and such getting 2 shots for that so I asked how many shots and her playful reply was " I hope you can do more than 1 because I like for you to cum rest and fuck again". HELLO so I said what if I can do it more that 2 times and she said " the more the better". Now based on the back and forth and her pics " which I thought had to be photoshooped I decided to pull the trigger. She hosted in her hotel which is nice gave me the hotel name and room number so I grabbed the keys and headed out..[/QUOTE]Will try and give her a spin.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2736289]Gentlemen, I have to share this gem with all of you that are true connoisseurs or those that have the manners and appreciation of the art. I had a sratch in my walet to try MR since the tel's I have hit seem to be busy or dry. Jesus christ I found a gem that just arrived in Seoul. First I will say do not be alarmed by the price listed in talking with her she said she has it at that level to keep agencies and Koreans off her back. So here goes.

I messaged her and she responded within 10 minutes, which was nice. From her reply I could tell she was already playful and enthusiastic. Of course you all know I am a daytime play type of guy. So I asked about the price and was quoted 300 USD for an hour. Now I know people are hitting up Anmas and such getting 2 shots for that so I asked how many shots and her playful reply was " I hope you can do more than 1 because I like for you to cum rest and fuck again". HELLO so I said what if I can do it more that 2 times and she said " the more the better". Now based on the back and forth and her pics " which I thought had to be photoshooped I decided to pull the trigger. She hosted in her hotel which is nice gave me the hotel name and room number so I grabbed the keys and headed out.

Arrived knocked and was expecting something different from the photos which is what I got. GAWD DAMN the photos do not even do her justice just by looking at her the J was almost at full attention. We had some small talk handed her the money and away we went. Had some deep french kissing, she has these full lips that are amazing. These perfect enhance breasts that are not hard and not hanging. She went down to my member that was at full attention and when I say the BJ skills were good I mean there are good. Right ammount of spit, slurping sounds just fucking perfect. I almost shot right then. I laid her on her back for some DATY I licked for about 2 minutes and this minx said " fuck me please I am so ready, I want you to fuck me". She was nice and naturally wet and I slide right in and that girl has a Kung Fun grip. Now you boys know I can last but nope it was back to being 16 again I was ready to pop in like 2. 5 minutes between her moans " not fake" she could tell I wanted to cum so she said "Pull it out and shoot it on me, I want to see how much you have" that did it I pulled out and dumped. She let out this cute little giggle that made my J start standing again but I am not a young man anymore so I laid down next to her thinking she was getting up to shower but she just wiped it with a towel and laid there like we had known each other. We had some small talk and petting and imI was ready to go again so she climbed on top still wet and rode me with the enthusiasm of a pornstar looking up at that long black hair enhanced melons seeing her arch her back I knew she was enjoying it she let out a yell and shake as she came. I flipped her doggy and gave it my best this girl put a while knew meaning to cat pose. Squeezing that perfect bubble but I had to nut. I pulled it out and shot to about mid back. Collapsed and thought no way can I do 3. But god damn it after a piss and small talk I was ready again. I honestly cannot even remember the 3rd because I was in a Fuck Coma. So fellas if you are thinking of hitting a run of the mill anama or a tel and getting a star fish use your coins wisely. You know I play my cards close to my chest but I have to share this one because unlike tel's she can screen for herself. Check MR for Nanavip. She said she was going to Gangnam for a few days and you're damn skippy I am riding this train again. Bon, Peanuts, Taco give her a spin.

Attached for your viewing pleasure.[/QUOTE]Thanks SlapStickFun for that review. I had gone through almost all MR girls and since I hit misses, I didn't see one who could make me want to blow up my wallets again. I had noticed the 500 $/ HR surge on her profile, probably the reason why I didn't check her out fully. My maximum limit on MR has always been 300 and I'm glad she falls in my bracket. Will definitely check her out myself to confirm your experience.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2736709]Will try and give her a spin.[/QUOTE]I know her from pre-COVID. I hope she's staying the whole of September.

She is pretty great.

I happened to be in Itaewon for drinks yesterday.

I thought I'd take a look at the Hill and it was pretty dead.

I saw Cherry and asked for a titfuck. She wanted 120 k, I countered at 40.

She assured me the lowest she'd go was 80 so I just shrugged and left.

Both upper and lower brains thought she was crazy.

Makes you wonder how many years the Hill has left.

Has anyone made an appointment with a woman from Secret Hostess? It has ads that are not on MR or City of Love. I haven't tried it yet so don't know if it's reliable or not. Anyone got an experience to report?

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2736289]Gentlemen, I have to share this gem with all of you that are true connoisseurs or those that have the manners and appreciation of the art. I had a sratch in my walet to try MR since the tel's I have hit seem to be busy or dry. Jesus christ I found a gem that just arrived in Seoul. First I will say do not be alarmed by the price listed in talking with her she said she has it at that level to keep agencies and Koreans off her back. So here goes.

I messaged her and she responded within 10 minutes, which was nice. From her reply I could tell she was already playful and enthusiastic. Of course you all know I am a daytime play type of guy. So I asked sbout the price and was quoted 300 USD for an hour. Now I know people are hitting up Anmas and such getting 2 shots for that so I asked how many shots and her playful reply was " I hope you can do more than 1 because I like for you to cum rest and fuck again". HELLO so I said what if I can do it more that 2 times and she said " the more the better". Now based on the back and forth and her pics " which I thought had to be photoshooped I decided to pull the trigger. She hosted in her hotel which is nice gave me the hotel name and room number so I grabbed the keys and headed out.

Arrived knocked and was expecting something different from the photos which is what I got. GAWD DAMN the photos do not even do her justice just by looking at her the J was almost at full attention. We had some small talk handed her the money and away we went. Had some deep french kissing, she has these full lips that are amazing. These perfect enhance breasts that are not hard and not hanging. She went down to my member that was at full attention and when I say the BJ skills were good I mean there are good. Right amount of spit, slurping sounds just fucking perfect. I almost shot right then. I laid her on her back for some DATY I licked for about 2 minutes and this minx said " fuck me please I am so ready, I want you to fuck me". She was nice and naturally wet and I slide right in and that girl has a Kung Fun grip. Now you boys know I can last but nope it was back to being 16 again I was ready to pop in like 2. 5 minutes between her moans " not fake" she could tell I wanted to cum so she said "Pull it out and shoot it on me, I want to see how much you have" that did it I pulled out and dumped. She let out this cute little giggle that made my J start standing again but I am not a young man anymore so I laid down next to her thinking she was getting up to shower but she just wiped it with a towel and laid there like we had known each other. We had some small talk and petting and imI was ready to go again so she climbed on top still wet and rode me with the enthusiasm of a pornstar looking up at that long black hair enhanced melons seeing her arch her back I knew she was enjoying it she let out a yell and shake as she came. I flipped her doggy and gave it my best this girl put a while knew meaning to cat pose. Squeezing that perfect bubble but I had to nut. I pulled it out and shot to about mid back. Collapsed and thought no way can I do 3. But god damn it after a piss and small talk I was ready again. I honestly cannot even remember the 3rd because I was in a Fuck Coma. So fellas if you are thinking of hitting a run of the mill anama or a tel and getting a star fish use your coins wisely. You know I play my cards close to my chest but I have to share this one because unlike tel's she can screen for herself. Check MR for Nanavip. She said she was going to Gangnam for a few days and you're damn skippy I am riding this train again. Bon, Peanuts, Taco give her a spin.

Attached for your viewing pleasure.[/QUOTE]Requesting a little guidance here, what is MR? The term is too short to search, and I'm trying to get the scope of options for foreigners in Seoul. I just arrived and would love to explore.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2737065]Requesting a little guidance here, what is MR? The term is too short to search, and I'm trying to get the scope of options for foreigners in Seoul. I just arrived and would love to explore.[/QUOTE]It's Massage Republic. World known site for verified escorts in different cities. You might need a VPN to access it while in Korea.

I've not met this one but I met the Russian Elena off MR. Pretty much what you described with this girl brought memories of Elena. It was what you would call "a session to remember." She's a real gem too if you want to try to someone different next time.

Glad you enjoyed to the maximum. Was wondering whether she's the one in the photo you shared or it's unrelated.

All in all, I'm just glad we're getting quality girls back on MR as it was pre-covid. Here you can get all the kisses and GFE that you would've missed with glasshouses and gunmas.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2736289]Gentlemen, I have to share this gem with all of you that are true connoisseurs or those that have the manners and appreciation of the art. I had a sratch in my walet to try MR since the tel's I have hit seem to be busy or dry. Jesus christ I found a gem that just arrived in Seoul. First I will say do not be alarmed by the price listed in talking with her she said she has it at that level to keep agencies and Koreans off her back. So here goes.

I messaged her and she responded within 10 minutes, which was nice. From her reply I could tell she was already playful and enthusiastic. Of course you all know I am a daytime play type of guy. So I asked sbout the price and was quoted 300 USD for an hour. Now I know people are hitting up Anmas and such getting 2 shots for that so I asked how many shots and her playful reply was " I hope you can do more than 1 because I like for you to cum rest and fuck again". HELLO so I said what if I can do it more that 2 times and she said " the more the better". Now based on the back and forth and her pics " which I thought had to be photoshooped I decided to pull the trigger. She hosted in her hotel which is nice gave me the hotel name and room number so I grabbed the keys and headed out..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles96;2737145]I've not met this one but I met the Russian Elena off MR. Pretty much what you described with this girl brought memories of Elena. It was what you would call "a session to remember." She's a real gem too if you want to try to someone different next time.

Glad you enjoyed to the maximum. Was wondering whether she's the one in the photo you shared or it's unrelated.

All in all, I'm just glad we're getting quality girls back on MR as it was pre-covid. Here you can get all the kisses and GFE that you would've missed with glasshouses and gunmas.[/QUOTE]That is her in the photo. She asked me to come see her tomorrow she is moving to Pyeongtaek soon.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2737028]I know her from pre-COVID. I hope she's staying the whole of September.

She is pretty great.[/QUOTE]She is headed to Pyeongtaek and from chit chat she is staying for at least September.

I'll keep this short.

The Hyugetel in Jamsil is keeping me happy. Tried out another woman. She wasn't as good as the first, but still fun.

Like a lot of the women I've met, this one was worried about dick size, so after I showered she wanted to see me at full mast before committing to the appointment. Thankfully, she had an ingenious way of checking: she got down on her knees and sucked me off until I was hard.

It was the best "size check" I've ever experienced.

As it turned out, I was at the upper limit of acceptable because she playfully told me I was big and long and to please be careful, but added, "Let's try. Lay down". From that point on, it was business as usual. Nothing spectacular but nothing disappointing either.

30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2737137]It's Massage Republic. World known site for verified escorts in different cities. You might need a VPN to access it while in Korea.[/QUOTE]Thank you! This helps tons.

A couple more thoughts, are there some known foreign friendly Kiss / BJ cafes? Also the Hyugetel in Jamsil mentioned, is there primary site that advertises hyugetels?

I'm sorry for all the questions. I've been following this thread for some time, just trying to see what's current.

[QUOTE=JoseRoonie;2736628]Does anyone know of spas like this one that do accept foreigners?[/QUOTE]I've been accepted to a few spas off opgani (they were my preferred type of establishment before covid), but haven't been to any in years now. I can't say I've ever been turned away by any, but I have had to pay a foreigner fee at some. Best to just contact and ask beforehand like most places. They're quite nice if you're into the tubs and the massages are usually really good, so it can make for a relaxing time out.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2716390]So I was staying at that fancy hotel with the misses and woke up early around 430 am. Decided to go for a run. Came out the parking lot turned right going up the hill when I saw a spinning pole and said fuck it. Went in and was quoted 110 k for a massage I asked about service and the little. Lady shook her head yes. Went stripped laid down, I thought it would be the same woman that greeted me but a different girl walked in. A slightly chubby Korean woman in her 40's. Mind you these women are pros with the hands so I do not mind. She saw the tattoos and said "wow" that's when I heard the woman respond with " Oh big size". I laughed. Typical massage and flip when she just started squeezing the J. Then walked out came back in with some warm rags washed my J which was odd. She then stopped popping out the big Dd's and shaved pussy. Took the J in her mouth and started sucking. I did not expect that. She seemed to like gagging herself got it all sloppy then she tapped me on the shoulder to stand up. So I did. She laid down spread her legs and handed me a condom. Gave her a good fucking nutted she then did the squeez my dick with her fingers while in her to take off the condom but started to milk me like I was a cow. Made sure to squeez it all out slid back and popped off the rubber.

I washed up and went back on my run. So all in all 110 was for full service of a 40 year old decent thick Korean.

If you are around the Shilla hotel keep and eye out for it. It is to the right going up the hill and the pole is on top of the building.[/QUOTE]Went for a wander but had trouble finding this spot, any chance you remember anything else about where it was?

Nice place to go for a walk either way!

Are you guys using your personal phones when calling these places like hyugetels, anmas, gunmas, etc? Aren't you worried the place is keeping records of your phone number and info? I've read stories of people getting called in to the police station because the places have kept their phone number info (even though they said they don't keep records of phone numbers). This is the reason I refuse to go to these places (although I want to).

[QUOTE=Abuasian1;2737707]Are you guys using your personal phones when calling these places like hyugetels, anmas, gunmas, etc? Aren't you worried the place is keeping records of your phone number and info? I've read stories of people getting called in to the police station because the places have kept their phone number info (even though they said they don't keep records of phone numbers). This is the reason I refuse to go to these places (although I want to).[/QUOTE]Totally legitimate concern. I don't call either. Not just because I don't want to get calls from LE but I don't want to end up on a list that gets sold to other operators. It happens you can read about it in media. Sometimes your number ends up in the hands of a gang in China or Malaysia that sends whatsapp messages from unknown numbers offering a good time. It's probably a scam but some guys will fall for it. Where do they get the numbers? They can buy while lists from Korean massage parlors.

It isn't a good idea to call or text with a Korean phone number.

[QUOTE=Abuasian1;2737707]Are you guys using your personal phones when calling these places like hyugetels, anmas, gunmas, etc? Aren't you worried the place is keeping records of your phone number and info? I've read stories of people getting called in to the police station because the places have kept their phone number info (even though they said they don't keep records of phone numbers). This is the reason I refuse to go to these places (although I want to).[/QUOTE]Abuasian1, as far as I know the only way to book an appointment is by using a personal phone. Online adverts explicitly state that they don't answer VOIP or landlines.

For what it's worth, everyone who buys sex in one capacity or another has to get comfortable with a certain amount of risk. However, if you feel that some activity is simply too risky, it's easy not to partake. For instance, I would never do an incall at my home, but others on the forum are perfectly comfortable with such activity. There's probably no real reason for me to worry, but it's where I've drawn my line as I'm not comfortable sharing my home address with sex brokers.

Could you provide links to the stories that you've read?

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2737464]Thank you! This helps tons.

A couple more thoughts, are there some known foreign friendly Kiss / BJ cafes? Also the Hyugetel in Jamsil mentioned, is there primary site that advertises hyugetels?

I'm sorry for all the questions. I've been following this thread for some time, just trying to see what's current.[/QUOTE]There are some foreign friendly kiss / BJ cafes in my personal experience kiss hot date (in sillim get out in exit 4 walk like 3 or 4 streets forward) are very welcoming to foreigners and for hyugtel there is opgani but if your aren't Korean most of these places won't accept you but if you can speak korean there have been places that will allow foreigners GL.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2737788]Abuasian1, as far as I know the only way to book an appointment is by using a personal phone. Online adverts explicitly state that they don't answer VOIP or landlines.

For what it's worth, everyone who buys sex in one capacity or another has to get comfortable with a certain amount of risk. However, if you feel that some activity is simply too risky, it's easy not to partake. For instance, I would never do an incall at my home, but others on the forum are perfectly comfortable with such activity. There's probably no real reason for me to worry, but it's where I've drawn my line as I'm not comfortable sharing my home address with sex brokers.

Could you provide links to the stories that you've read?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgDtRFjmltA&t=1s[/URL] This video is a bit of what yall are talking about where the girlfriend could pay to see if their spouse was on one of those call lists but I don't think you can get into any legal trouble.

[QUOTE=JoseRoonie;2737920][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgDtRFjmltA&t=1s[/URL] This video is a bit of what yall are talking about where the girlfriend could pay to see if their spouse was on one of those call lists but I don't think you can get into any legal trouble.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I just watched the videos series. Fun stuff.

I think this article might also provide some light on the topic.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/005/0001544078?sid=102[/URL]

The conclusion of the article is that the service selling information about Johns is unreliable. The service is also illegal and since it is unlikely to garner repeat customers, they have zero incentive to provide accurate information.

Also, the database that was most recently collected was related to a website called Night War 밤 의 전 쟁 . The article below mentions that the guy in charge, a Korean living in the Philippines, was recently caught and extradited.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/023/0003705500?sid=102[/URL]

[QUOTE=JoseRoonie;2737916]There are some foreign friendly kiss / BJ cafes in my personal experience kiss hot date (in sillim get out in exit 4 walk like 3 or 4 streets forward) are very welcoming to foreigners and for hyugtel there is opgani but if your aren't Korean most of these places won't accept you but if you can speak korean there have been places that will allow foreigners GL.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I wish I could shoot you a DM but I'm not a senior member on this board. I have the same username on the states side one if you're there.

[QUOTE=Stack58;2737030]

I saw Cherry and asked for a titfuck.

[/QUOTE]How are Cherry's titfuck? Where's she working at the moment?

[QUOTE=Charles96;2737145]I've not met this one but I met the Russian Elena off MR. Pretty much what you described with this girl brought memories of Elena. It was what you would call "a session to remember." She's a real gem too if you want to try to someone different next time.

Glad you enjoyed to the maximum. Was wondering whether she's the one in the photo you shared or it's unrelated.

All in all, I'm just glad we're getting quality girls back on MR as it was pre-covid. Here you can get all the kisses and GFE that you would've missed with glasshouses and gunmas.[/QUOTE]Recently contacted Russian Elena from MR. The photos she sent me of herself for proof / validation were fake.

I reverse searched the images she sent me and it turned out to be some model.

After I confronted her and asked if those photos were actually her, she said yes.

I screenshotted other photos of the model that she used and she didn't respond and just blocked me LOL.

Was curious about your experience with Elena since she seems to be a fraud.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2738246]Recently contacted Russian Elena from MR. The photos she sent me of herself for proof / validation were fake.

I reverse searched the images she sent me and it turned out to be some model.

After I confronted her and asked if those photos were actually her, she said yes.

I screenshotted other photos of the model that she used and she didn't respond and just blocked me LOL.

Was curious about your experience with Elena since she seems to be a fraud.[/QUOTE]I would say photos are definitely not her. But she's Russian like the model in the pics and probably that's why she passed MR verification.

I think she's these girls who are worried of publishing their real photos But make no mistake, she's real and I can tell you that she's given me one of the best sessions I've ever had in Korea. She actually makes love to you, not just pump and go. Deep French kiss, sloppy BJs and all that while being sexy at the same time. And even a massage at the end.

On the other hand, I've met several with full body pics but boy was I disappointed with half-baked services. No fingering, no DFK just light kisses and all they do is lay down and chill and maybe some doggy and you're off. You can't know all of that just by looking at their pictures.

I bet on her while she had no reviews and wasn't disappointed and now she's in 14 five stars. If someone was ripped off, he'd probably have written a bad one on there.

She likes to take charge in starting, changing positions, giving DFK and all that, but you can do anything you like as well probably anal is the only off-limit. I've met girls who start off awkwardly but not her, as if you've met yr long lost girlfriend who's so horny for your d. I'm usually not a BJ guy, I just want to go straight to DAYT but I didn't want her sloppy BBBJ to stop LOL.

If you decide to give her a try, let me know either here or in DM's. It's a repeat for me surely but I just want to first try this new Colombian one and Valentina as they've been praised over here as well. I'll compare and she who's the winner.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2738246]Recently contacted Russian Elena from MR. The photos she sent me of herself for proof / validation were fake.

I reverse searched the images she sent me and it turned out to be some model.

After I confronted her and asked if those photos were actually her, she said yes.

I screenshotted other photos of the model that she used and she didn't respond and just blocked me LOL.

Was curious about your experience with Elena since she seems to be a fraud.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for the info I was just talking with her to get an appointment for next week glad to see this before I waste my time it did seem a bit sketchy with all the reviews in MR being 5 stars but since I saw that post in this chat I thought I would give it a shot.

Hello guys,

Loving the reports. Can anyone help with adal's new domain? Also Is there any list of kiss rooms? Especially near dongdaemun area?

[QUOTE=Stack58;2737030]I happened to be in Itaewon for drinks yesterday.

I thought I'd take a look at the Hill and it was pretty dead.

I saw Cherry and asked for a titfuck. She wanted 120 k, I countered at 40.

She assured me the lowest she'd go was 80 so I just shrugged and left.

Both upper and lower brains thought she was crazy.

Makes you wonder how many years the Hill has left.[/QUOTE]Given her amazing tits, skill, rising costs, and declining customers, 80 k is a pretty fair price. 40 k? This isn't the 80's.

I have gotten blowjobs from her for 90 and tip a little because of her incredible attention to detail. She has been a top 3 provider on the Hill for over a decade and that is even more true today with the lack of options.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2736709]Will try and give her a spin.[/QUOTE]Did you ever get a chance to meet her? I've been missing her on the daily, she seems to move around a lot.

Also, would you be okay if I DM'd you some questions? Not senior on this board so I can't start the message thread.

[QUOTE=KnightMare99;2734904]Hello,

A foreigner here from Asia which will visit SK in 1 week, anyone keen to survey and go together?

Interested in anma / kiss bang. Feel free to find me if you guys wanted to find and go together![/QUOTE]Interested my friend.

I have a 10 hour layover at Incheon airport. I booked a room at Incheon Hotel Airstay. What are the options in the area? I found a place named King Massage next to the hotel, anybody have info on it? The website is in Korean.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2736289]Gentlemen, I have to share this gem with all of you that are true connoisseurs or those that have the manners and appreciation of the art. I had a sratch in my walet to try MR since the tel's I have hit seem to be busy or dry. Jesus christ I found a gem that just arrived in Seoul. First I will say do not be alarmed by the price listed in talking with her she said she has it at that level to keep agencies and Koreans off her back. So here goes.

I messaged her and she responded within 10 minutes, which was nice. From her reply I could tell she was already playful and enthusiastic. Of course you all know I am a daytime play type of guy. So I asked sbout the price and was quoted 300 USD for an hour. Now I know people are hitting up Anmas and such getting 2 shots for that so I asked how many shots and her playful reply was " I hope you can do more than 1 because I like for you to cum rest and fuck again". HELLO so I said what if I can do it more that 2 times and she said " the more the better". Now based on the back and forth and her pics " which I thought had to be photoshooped I decided to pull the trigger. She hosted in her hotel which is nice gave me the hotel name and room number so I grabbed the keys and headed out.

Arrived knocked and was expecting something different from the photos which is what I got. GAWD DAMN the photos do not even do her justice just by looking at her the J was almost at full attention. We had some small talk handed her the money and away we went. Had some deep french kissing, she has these full lips that are amazing. These perfect enhance breasts that are not hard and not hanging. She went down to my member that was at full attention and when I say the BJ skills were good I mean there are good. Right ammount of spit, slurping sounds just fucking perfect. I almost shot right then. I laid her on her back for some DATY I licked for about 2 minutes and this minx said " fuck me please I am so ready, I want you to fuck me". She was nice and naturally wet and I slide right in and that girl has a Kung Fun grip. Now you boys know I can last but nope it was back to being 16 again I was ready to pop in like 2. 5 minutes between her moans " not fake" she could tell I wanted to cum so she said "Pull it out and shoot it on me, I want to see how much you have" that did it I pulled out and dumped. She let out this cute little giggle that made my J start standing again but I am not a young man anymore so I laid down next to her thinking she was getting up to shower but she just wiped it with a towel and laid there like we had known each other. We had some small talk and petting and imI was ready to go again so she climbed on top still wet and rode me with the enthusiasm of a pornstar looking up at that long black hair enhanced melons seeing her arch her back I knew she was enjoying it she let out a yell and shake as she came. I flipped her doggy and gave it my best this girl put a while knew meaning to cat pose. Squeezing that perfect bubble but I had to nut. I pulled it out and shot to about mid back. Collapsed and thought no way can I do 3. But god damn it after a piss and small talk I was ready again. I honestly cannot even remember the 3rd because I was in a Fuck Coma. So fellas if you are thinking of hitting a run of the mill anama or a tel and getting a star fish use your coins wisely. You know I play my cards close to my chest but I have to share this one because unlike tel's she can screen for herself. Check MR for Nanavip. She said she was going to Gangnam for a few days and you're damn skippy I am riding this train again. Bon, Peanuts, Taco give her a spin.

Attached for your viewing pleasure.[/QUOTE]Hello, is this Mia? Don't have the ability to view photos TIA.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2737736]Totally legitimate concern. I don't call either. Not just because I don't want to get calls from LE but I don't want to end up on a list that gets sold to other operators. It happens you can read about it in media. Sometimes your number ends up in the hands of a gang in China or Malaysia that sends whatsapp messages from unknown numbers offering a good time. It's probably a scam but some guys will fall for it. Where do they get the numbers? They can buy while lists from Korean massage parlors.

It isn't a good idea to call or text with a Korean phone number.[/QUOTE]It's anecdotal, but as counterpoint to your concerns, I think it's worth pointing out that I've never received any spam calls or texts and that I've never been contacted by law enforcement. I'm not saying that such things can't occur, I'm just saying that they would be extremely rare.

I won't bore you with all of my logic, but here is a bit of my reasoning.

If such issues were more common, I imagine that someone would have written a report on the forum about their phone blowing up with spam and / or a report about their arrest and deportation. After all, we are the people who would be most likely to get in trouble. I, for one, have been at it for years and I've not only used my personal phone but I've also provided photo ID a handful of times. Thankfully, I'm not in a lick of trouble.

Now, I won't say that I was completely unconcerned when I first called a Hyugetel nor worry free when I first sent an image of my ID, but I realized that it was for a purpose. And as strange as it might sound, the purpose is trust. They need to know whether they can trust you with private information, I. E. , the location of their officetel, and they also need to know that you're a real customer and not some bullshitter wasting their time or an activist trying to ruin their business.

Although what we talk about on the forum is obviously shady, I've only ever gotten the impression that the people running things are professional. Therefore, I couldn't imagine that the places I visit would intentionally release my info.

Having said all that, if you're not comfortable providing your information, there are plenty of alternatives in this country.

Finally took a chance to go out and experience the hobby on this side of the world. I'll keep it short and concise.

Kiss Hot Date K at Sillim. Front desk was more than willing to help without me being able to speak Korean. I opted for the 30 m /50 k, she instructed me to brush my teeth and after walked me to a room. The room had a couch sofa, fan, and small night stand with lamp / wipes / cups / ect. Very basic. I probably waited 10 minutes when a girl walked in (I wish I got her name, started with an M.). She started speaking Hangul and I had to break it to her that I only speak English. She laughed and switched to English with what she knew. In my eyes she was an 8/10, her body was literally perfect. We made out a bit with some hands wandering above and below, after warming up I asked about further services. Unfortunately she didn't offer HJ or BJ, but FS was fine. I was primed so I opted for FS at 150 k. We did the exchange and she started undressing. She rode me CG, standing mish, standing mish pressed against the wall and Doggy for that perfect view. Popped. Chatted, joked, kissed, said out goodbyes. Enjoyed.

Nana VIP at MR. I won't repeat the review below, it was very much the same experience. Contacted her via Kakao Talk, 400 k / HR for 2 shots and CIM. She's hot, service oriented, and only here for a month. Overall, a slight mechanical for my tastes. Was good to check the block.

Found a gem recently on OP.

Korean chicks (20-25) + themes (maid, schoolgirl, nurse, lingerie) and it was pretty fun.

I picked a girl named Bora and she was wearing sexy fishnet and lingerie. She definitively goes to gym, her body was perfect. She was cute and super hot at the same time. It has been a while I didn't get this level of service. Nice chitchat, GFE attitude, great sex, I even got extra time. Total 180 for 1 h and 2 rounds.

Will visit again.

I'm looking for a genuine South Korean escort websites preferably the ones listing verified escorts based in Seoul. I tried looking up this forum but couldn't find any.

If not, please advise how to look for escorts in Seoul without getting scammed and what to avoid. Also would language be an issue since I don't speak Korean and can only rely on English to communicate with escorts.

Another thing is what is an ideal amount charged for an hour for decent to high end South Korean escorts.

Would really appreciate any help.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2740191]Finally took a chance to go out and experience the hobby on this side of the world. I'll keep it short and concise.

Kiss Hot Date K at Sillim. Front desk was more than willing to help without me being able to speak Korean. I opted for the 30 m /50 k, she instructed me to brush my teeth and after walked me to a room. The room had a couch sofa, fan, and small night stand with lamp / wipes / cups / ect. Very basic. I probably waited 10 minutes when a girl walked in (I wish I got her name, started with an M.). She started speaking Hangul and I had to break it to her that I only speak English. She laughed and switched to English with what she knew. In my eyes she was an 8/10, her body was literally perfect. We made out a bit with some hands wandering above and below, after warming up I asked about further services. Unfortunately she didn't offer HJ or BJ, but FS was fine. I was primed so I opted for FS at 150 k. We did the exchange and she started undressing. She rode me CG, standing mish, standing mish pressed against the wall and Doggy for that perfect view. Popped. Chatted, joked, kissed, said out goodbyes. Enjoyed.

Nana VIP at MR. I won't repeat the review below, it was very much the same experience. Contacted her via Kakao Talk, 400 k / HR for 2 shots and CIM. She's hot, service oriented, and only here for a month. Overall, a slight mechanical for my tastes. Was good to check the block.[/QUOTE]You guys are actually paying 400 k for NON local? I assume she is Thai? Insane.

[QUOTE=PleasureHunt;2740202]Found a gem recently on OP.

Young Korean chicks (20-25) + themes (maid, schoolgirl, nurse, lingerie) and it was pretty fun.

I picked a girl named bora and she was wearing sexy fishnet and lingerie. She definitively goes to gym, her body was perfect. She was cute and super hot at the same time. It has been a while I didn't get this level of service. Nice chitchat, GFE attitude, great sex, I even got extra time. Total 180 for 1 h and 2 rounds.

Will visit again.[/QUOTE]Does this fall under the Opgani ads? That sounds like a blast but I've had zero chance breaking into any of them, LOL.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2740487]You guys are actually paying 400 k for NON local? I assume she is Thai? Insane.[/QUOTE]My first trip to this area and I got much more time than advertised with her. I was simply adding my report to the discussion. It feels like slim pickings for foreigners here. Can't say I'm too surprised with Korea being the culture it is.

Hi guys,

What are price in kissbang hongdae?

For 1 hour room?

If just kiss, do we have to give tips?

If HJ how much is tips?

BJ and FS is possible in kissbang?

Please advise!

I'm always surprised that the ones who do the best job tend to be the most unassuming. Their usually not the ones you think would be best. Sometimes the sluttiest seeming women are the least disposed to perform and the cute little innocent ones turn out to offer the best service.

Every fuck with a new woman is a gamble.

I went to a favorite Hyugetel in Seolleung because they recently got a new lineup of women. I selected a cute one, and when I saw her, I was surprised by how tiny she actually was. I was expecting short, thin, and small breasted because that is how she had been advertised, and true to the advert, she was all of those things, but she also happened to look young. She was advertised as 23 and told me she was 23, but I wouldn't have been surprised if she was 19. I think she looked particularly young because of her braces and short cut hair style. This has been a long-winded way of saying that I made an excellent choice and that she was even cuter in real life than in her photos.

However, I was a bit worried, because if anyone had the right to be afraid of a large white cock, it was this lady. Fortunately, she was happy, giggly, and fun from start to finish. She had no fear of dick and happily tackled the challenge.

First, she gave a BJ. And wow, was it ever a good one. She was better at performing oral than most women twice her age, and despite having such a petite frame, she was almost able to fully deep throat.

She had already won me over with a quality BJ, but she upped the ante by allowing a deep dicking. And that wasn't even the best part. My favorite bit was that she made eye contact throughout. Better yet, she was all smiles, moans, and laughs. She was, to put it simply, fun.

She told me that she had only been in Korea for a month. I hope she doesn't get jaded after working here for a little while longer.

I will absolutely return and I will make sure to request the same woman. 50 min bbfscip 120,000 won.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2740982]I'm always surprised that the ones who do the best job tend to be the most unassuming. Their usually not the ones you think would be best. Sometimes the sluttiest seeming women are the least disposed to perform and the cute little innocent ones turn out to offer the best service.

Every fuck with a new woman is a gamble.

I went to a favorite Hyugetel in Seolleung because they recently got a new lineup of women. I selected a cute one, and when I saw her, I was surprised by how tiny she actually was. I was expecting short, thin, and small breasted because that is how she had been advertised, and true to the advert, she was all of those things, but she also happened to look very, very young. She was advertised as 23 and told me she was 23, but I wouldn't have been surprised if she was 19..[/QUOTE]How was your journey in learning Hangul? Your experience is something I'm sure a lot of us strive for, but is obviously secluded to the ones that can get through. I'm in the baby steps of learning and hoping it can open some more doors for me.

Aside from that, adding another report;.

Went to Lyra the other night as I was just bouncing from Anma to Anma seeing who would take a foreigner. I just wanted to see what the experience was like. The lady at the front desk was accommodating and helped with translating on her phone. 300 k / HR, she took my upstairs to a room where I could relax in until the girl was ready. I waited about 20 m, when she came back and brought me to the actual room with the girl.

Met with "Seven." She's tall, skinny and probably 30's? Either way, besides having a slightly smaller butt than hoped for, I could work with it. She gave the full massage in the shower, lots of licking and kissing everywhere (a little too much, definitely could tell it was a time burning technique.) Eventually got to the BBBJ which was pretty average, and rimming with a HJ.

Back in the actual room, she was concerned about my size (pretty average but it sounds like a repeating theme here), but didn't complain when it came down to it. Ran through reverse CG, CG, standing Mish, and doggy to finish off. Mirrors on the walls and ceiling were a nice touch.

Overall a positive experience.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2741095]How was your journey in learning Hangul? Your experience is something I'm sure a lot of us strive for, but is obviously secluded to the ones that can get through. I'm in the baby steps of learning and hoping it can open some more doors for me.

Aside from that, adding another report;.

Went to Lyra the other night as I was just bouncing from Anma to Anma seeing who would take a foreigner. I just wanted to see what the experience was like. The lady at the front desk was accommodating and helped with translating on her phone. 300 k / HR, she took my upstairs to a room where I could relax in until the girl was ready. I waited about 20 m, when she came back and brought me to the actual room with the girl.

Met with "Seven." She's tall, skinny and probably 30's? Either way, besides having a slightly smaller butt than hoped for, I could work with it. She gave the full massage in the shower, lots of licking and kissing everywhere (a little too much, definitely could tell it was a time burning technique.) Eventually got to the BBBJ which was pretty average, and rimming with a HJ.

Back in the actual room, she was concerned about my size (pretty average but it sounds like a repeating theme here), but didn't complain when it came down to it. Ran through reverse CG, CG, standing Mish, and doggy to finish off. Mirrors on the walls and ceiling were a nice touch.

Overall a positive experience.[/QUOTE]Learning Korean isn't easy, but if you stick with it, you'll get better.

Prioritize the types of speech you want to use. For instance, after you get through the basics, you may want to learn to make a reservation. You can find dialogs about booking hotels and restaurant reservations that contain roughly 50% of the target language necessary to book the types of services that are discussed on this site. You'll also want to make sure you can read the opstar adverts. It's not too tough as they all tend to be alike. In other words, once you figure out one advert, you'll understand the rest, and it will be as easy as ordering a meal from a menu.

Happy Chuseok and thanks for the report.

Hello all,

Hope everyone is doing well.

Does anyone know / confirm if MR is accessible in Korea or do I strictly need a VPN to view the site.

Going to be visiting for a few weeks and wanted to plan ahead just in case.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=RyanPik13;2741928]Hello all,

Hope everyone is doing well.

Does anyone know / confirm if MR is accessible in Korea or do I strictly need a VPN to view the site.

Going to be visiting for a few weeks and wanted to plan ahead just in case.

Thank you![/QUOTE]I would just plan on using a VPN if you expect to do any level of research, to include this website.

[QUOTE=RyanPik13;2741928]Hello all,

Hope everyone is doing well.

Does anyone know / confirm if MR is accessible in Korea or do I strictly need a VPN to view the site.

Going to be visiting for a few weeks and wanted to plan ahead just in case.

Thank you![/QUOTE]You can use the alternative URL thst is very short. Letters:
em are three dot pee double-you.

No vpn needed.

[QUOTE=RyanPik13;2741928]Hello all,

Hope everyone is doing well.

Does anyone know / confirm if MR is accessible in Korea or do I strictly need a VPN to view the site.

Going to be visiting for a few weeks and wanted to plan ahead just in case.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Opera browser makes life easier as it has an inbuilt free VPN which access all those blocked sites.

Yo. So I've been here for about 1 year and enjoying whoring for a bit. Let me teach you some of the rules of the game here.

As stated earlier, you go on a website called OPGANI and get the places. Generally speaking, if you speak decent Korean, you can get in. They won't really question you.

But make sure you can speak Korean well.

But first things first, if you are a foreigner, you got to create the contacts (your network) and the easiest places to get into are hyugetels.

Now, go to one hyugetel place for like a total of like 10 times or so and create rapport with the business. They'll know who you are, how you treat the girls, and your preferences, etc etc.

But make sure that they serve Korean girls! This is key! The reason is cause they also usually operate officetels and officetel girls are a lot hotter.

So after you go about like 10 times, ask for their lineup again. And if the girl you don't like is there, then ask for recommendations for other locations that serve ladies.

And they will refer you to the officetel that they operate as well.

Hyugetels are like average chicks, officetels are a bit hotter but a bit more expensive.

Then once you get into officetels, the game becomes much easier.

In my opinion, there are 4 tiers of officetels.

There's the tier 1. And these are the 140 k+ at per hour. The cheapest one but pretty good.

2nd tier. These ones start at 200 k+.

3rd tier. These are the VIP ones. Girls start from 350 k.

4th tier. These start at 800 k.

Once you get into the first tier, and you get their contacts, make sure to save your text messages between you and the provider.

Cause when you get into a new place, they are going to ask for places you've visited in the past. Then you going to screenshot those texts that you sent between you and the providers and send them to the next officetel you want to get into. They use it to screen you.

Now go out and have fun with this new information that I've given out. Personally, I don't think it's worth spending over 300 k. Girls are marginally better and the girls at these higher tiers are a bit bitchier. LOL.

If you going to ask me about my favorite places that I can say, my favorite anma place is DAO. Favorite hyugetel, can't really say. You got to create your own network.

Go out and have fun.

[QUOTE=KoreaWhoring01;2743026]Yo. So I've been here for about 1 year and enjoying whoring for a bit. Let me teach you some of the rules of the game here.

As stated earlier, you go on a website called OPGANI and get the places. Generally speaking, if you speak decent Korean, you can get in. They won't really question you.

But make sure you can speak Korean well.

But first things first, if you are a foreigner, you got to create the contacts (your network) and the easiest places to get into are hyugetels.

Now, go to one hyugetel place for like a total of like 10 times or so and create rapport with the business. They'll know who you are, how you treat the girls, and your preferences, etc etc.

But make sure that they serve Korean girls! This is key! The reason is cause they also usually operate officetels and officetel girls are a lot hotter.

So after you go about like 10 times, ask for their lineup again. And if the girl you don't like is there, then ask for recommendations for other locations that serve ladies.

And they will refer you to the officetel that they operate as well..[/QUOTE]This is all good info, I appreciate info.

As far as hyugetels being an entry for foreigners, aren't those similar to the places advertised on opgani? I may be mistaked, just wondering how to break into those as you recommended.

Also, DAO has been on my hitlist, do they accept foreigners?

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2743527]This is all good info, I appreciate info.

As far as hyugetels being an entry for foreigners, aren't those similar to the places advertised on opgani? I may be mistaked, just wondering how to break into those as you recommended.

Also, DAO has been on my hitlist, do they accept foreigners?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Hyugetels are places advertised on opgani.

Generally speaking, hyugetels on that website with the same name on the officetel part of the page are operated by the same people.

So for example, if you see a hyugetel called APPLE (not a real one, just an example) and an officetel called APPLE, they are operated by the same company.

I'm not sure if DAO accepts foreigners. I look almost Korean and can speak decent Korean. So YMMV.

[QUOTE=KoreaWhoring01;2743026]Yo. So I've been here for about 1 year and enjoying whoring for a bit. Let me teach you some of the rules of the game here.

As stated earlier, you go on a website called OPGANI and get the places. Generally speaking, if you speak decent Korean, you can get in. They won't really question you.

But make sure you can speak Korean well.

But first things first, if you are a foreigner, you got to create the contacts (your network) and the easiest places to get into are hyugetels.

Now, go to one hyugetel place for like a total of like 10 times or so and create rapport with the business. They'll know who you are, how you treat the girls, and your preferences, etc etc.

But make sure that they serve Korean girls! This is key! The reason is cause they also usually operate officetels and officetel girls are a lot hotter.

So after you go about like 10 times, ask for their lineup again. And if the girl you don't like is there, then ask for recommendations for other locations that serve ladies.

And they will refer you to the officetel that they operate as well.

Hyugetels are like average chicks, officetels are a bit hotter but a bit more expensive.

Then once you get into officetels, the game becomes much easier.

In my opinion, there are 4 tiers of officetels.

There's the tier 1. And these are the 140 k+ at per hour. The cheapest one but pretty good.

2nd tier. These ones start at 200 k+.

3rd tier. These are the VIP ones. Girls start from 350 k.

4th tier. These start at 800 k.

Once you get into the first tier, and you get their contacts, make sure to save your text messages between you and the provider.

Cause when you get into a new place, they are going to ask for places you've visited in the past. Then you going to screenshot those texts that you sent between you and the providers and send them to the next officetel you want to get into. They use it to screen you.

Now go out and have fun with this new information that I've given out. Personally, I don't think it's worth spending over 300 k. Girls are marginally better and the girls at these higher tiers are a bit bitchier. LOL.

If you going to ask me about my favorite places that I can say, my favorite anma place is DAO. Favorite hyugetel, can't really say. You got to create your own network.

Go out and have fun.[/QUOTE]Because we all know that one's ethnicity can prevent access to service, could I ask what your background is? I'm particularly interested because I've gotten into a whole load of Hyugetels, but never into an officetel. BTW I'm white and speak Korean.

Considering all of this, your explanation of how you gained access to officetels piqued my curiosity.

Thanks for the detailed report.

Got into a Hyugetel near Gangnam station. It's the first time in quite a while that a place in Gangnam has allowed me to book an appointment.

The provider seemed really curious about me and asked how I found the website. She also told me that her boss was surprised that I could speak Korean.

She then confirmed that I was the first foreigner to visit in the two years since she came to Korea, and she was pleasantly surprised by the change of pace. On behalf of the forum, I asked if other foreigners could visit. She said it was up to her boss. In other words, as with all Hyugetels, the answer to whether foreigners are allowed is a resounding maybe.

Out of curiosity, I also asked whether she knew the other women listed alongside her on the Hyugetel advert. She said she had no contact with anyone but the boss.

From that point, we had a good experience. 30 min BBFS 100,000 won.

[QUOTE=Abuasian1;2738228]How are Cherry's titfuck? Where's she working at the moment?[/QUOTE]I can testify that her titfuck is pretty great. Make sure you tell her you want the works, BBBJ and titfuck. She always seem to throw in a rimjob too. She's up the hill at one of the places on the right that hasn't been demolished yet. Can't remember which one, but you can't miss her as she comes out to call you in. Gargantuan juggs.

I'll be making my first trip to Seoul in November and I was wondering I'm out of luck in terms of hobbying because I don't speak Korean? I found a couple of independent women on MR, but am I limited to that?

[QUOTE=DropNir;2745028]I'll be making my first trip to Seoul in November and I was wondering I'm out of luck in terms of hobbying because I don't speak Korean? I found a couple of independent women on MR, but am I limited to that?[/QUOTE]You'll likely be limited to MR, RLDs, and massage parlors.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2740191]Finally took a chance to go out and experience the hobby on this side of the world. I'll keep it short and concise.

Kiss Hot Date K at Sillim. Front desk was more than willing to help without me being able to speak Korean. I opted for the 30 m /50 k, she instructed me to brush my teeth and after walked me to a room. The room had a couch sofa, fan, and small night stand with lamp / wipes / cups / ect. Very basic. I probably waited 10 minutes when a girl walked in (I wish I got her name, started with an M.) She started speaking Hangul and I had to break it to her that I only speak English. She laughed and switched to English with what she knew. In my eyes she was an 8/10, her body was literally perfect. We made out a bit with some hands wandering above and below, after warming up I asked about further services. Unfortunately she didn't offer HJ or BJ, but FS was fine. I was primed so I opted for FS at 150 k. We did the exchange and she started undressing. She rode me CG, standing mish, standing mish pressed against the wall and Doggy for that perfect view. Popped. Chatted, joked, kissed, said out goodbyes. Enjoyed.

Nana VIP at MR. I won't repeat the review below, it was very much the same experience. Contacted her via Kakao Talk, 400 k / HR for 2 shots and CIM. She's hot, service oriented, and only here for a month. Overall, a slight mechanical for my tastes. Was good to check the block.[/QUOTE]Went to hot date kiss K in Sillim. Receptionist used translator and I had to wait about 40 minutes. I also drew the lady that starts with M. She spoke enough English to communicate well and was slightly shy, but better than she thinks. She was 25 and we chatted and kissed for about 15 minutes and then asked for service. Same rate at 15 man won. Was worth it at this exchange rate. She is way bigger than most Korean women, but great body. I'd say overall a solid 7.5-8/10. She wasn't the most lively kisser at first, but after chatting more and the friend came out to play. She livened up way more. Said she likes big, so bring the foreigners on I suppose. No hangul required.

-7 Spa (near Gangnam Station.

Was not allowed to partake their services. Foreigner life, LOL.

-Gold Anma.

Had two experiences here, both were very similar. 300 k.

Girl #1 (Sujie? Something like that.).

Tall, thin with nice manmades. Backside wasn't the best asset. Typical table shower with follow on sex. Highlight for the session was ending with BBBBJCIM. She had great technique.

Girl #2.

Short, petite, died blonde hair. She was probably in her late 20's, but her personality and energy was very positive. We communicated via translator app and hit all the positions. Pretty sure I bottomed her out, she told me she just about done for the night after I finished in doggy, LOL. I would probably go back for her if I recalled her name.

-Massage Republic.

Bella. 300 k.

This girl was spicy. Mixed Hispanic and Asian I believe, going to college here. Met her at her hotel, walked in and was greeted with a welcoming personality. Her room was slightly messy but it wasn't enough to turn me away quite yet. We made out a bit and she instantly started dirty talking. Had her suck my dick on the couch, was a nice slow and smooth motion. Moved to her bed and shoved my dick in her mouth in a couple different positions. Ended up on my back and she rode me reverse CG, she was having a blast of a time. Turned her over for more of the same, basic missionary, picked her up and banged her carrying her (not sure wtf to call this), doggy, and finished all over her face and mouth. Chatted a bit, got hard pretty quick again. Some BJ, flat doggy, mish, then came in her ass in doggy. Girl can take a pounding. Best of all, she let me record with my phone throughout.

[QUOTE=PattySmitty88;2745743]Went to hot date kiss K in Sillim. Receptionist used translator and I had to wait about 40 minutes. I also drew the lady that starts with M. She spoke enough English to communicate well and was slightly shy, but better than she thinks. She was 25 and we chatted and kissed for about 15 minutes and then asked for service. Same rate at 15 man won. Was worth it at this exchange rate. She is way bigger than most Korean women, but great body. I'd say overall a solid 7.5-8/10. She wasn't the most lively kisser at first, but after chatting more and the friend came out to play. She livened up way more. Said she likes big, so bring the foreigners on I suppose. No hangul required.[/QUOTE]How do you find Hot Date Kiss K? Guessing it's not allowed to post addresses, maybe you can describe the area it's in and how to find it? Not sure what's allowed.

[QUOTE=PattySmitty88;2745743]Went to hot date kiss K in Sillim. Receptionist used translator and I had to wait about 40 minutes. I also drew the lady that starts with M. She spoke enough English to communicate well and was slightly shy, but better than she thinks. She was 25 and we chatted and kissed for about 15 minutes and then asked for service. Same rate at 15 man won. Was worth it at this exchange rate. She is way bigger than most Korean women, but great body. I'd say overall a solid 7.5-8/10. She wasn't the most lively kisser at first, but after chatting more and the friend came out to play. She livened up way more. Said she likes big, so bring the foreigners on I suppose. No hangul required.[/QUOTE]Finally. Someone who enjoys big dicks and not create a fuss. Can someone please share hints on the location details as well as the provider?

[QUOTE=Dysk64;2746308]How do you find Hot Date Kiss K? Guessing it's not allowed to post addresses, maybe you can describe the area it's in and how to find it? Not sure what's allowed.[/QUOTE]I believe there's a map way back in this thread if you read a little; that lists some locations. It's a bit outdated but it can serve as a rough guide.

Side note, would anyone that knows a bit of Korean be willing to link up?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2744924]Got into a Hyugetel near Gangnam station. It's the first time in quite a while that a place in Gangnam has allowed me to book an appointment.

The provider seemed really curious about me and asked how I found the website. She also told me that her boss was surprised that I could speak Korean.

She then confirmed that I was the first foreigner to visit in the two years since she came to Korea, and she was pleasantly surprised by the change of pace. On behalf of the forum, I asked if other foreigners could visit. She said it was up to her boss. In other words, as with all Hyugetels, the answer to whether foreigners are allowed is a resounding maybe.

Out of curiosity, I also asked whether she knew the other women listed alongside her on the Hyugetel advert. She said she had no contact with anyone but the boss.

From that point, we had a good experience. 30 min BBFS 100,000 won.[/QUOTE]Where can I find this Hyugetel? Name of the provider?

New to the hobby on this side of the pond. I'm new to this side and I'm interested really in the kiss bangs. Any tips on finding places while walking around?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2746381]Finally. Someone who enjoys big dicks and not create a fuss. Can someone please share hints on the location details as well as the provider?[/QUOTE]I found it on this forum, I did a search for the names used. Exit #4 out of Sillim station. Go straight and after about 3-4 roads (small alleys included) you'll see a building on your left that's 4 stories. Being advertised on the third floor is a board games cafe and you'll see "K" for the fourth floor. This is it.

The providers name rhymes with engine and starts with an M. She told me she only works Friday-Sunday. I got lucky because she covered down for someone else. She does not do oral, but even if you don't pay extra she'll still let you roam and suck on her breasts. Even said to me, you can jerk yourself off if you want to. Have fun.

Does anyone else have other kiss date recommendations?

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2716312]Thank you good sir for taking the time to reply to my message. Yes, I understand better now with your reply. Doing this on my own I will learn the hard way LOL is what I gathered from your message. I fly in and out of Korea quite frequently, the next time I am there I will most def give it a try. I can confirm that the hotel lobby / lounge game is non-existing, I usually stay at 5 stars in the Gangnam area and never noticed anyone who would be a provider hanging around. But then again I could just be blind.[/QUOTE]Thought I would follow up again on my own thread: the As you can see from my previous posts I am trying to understand the game in SK and wrote a post some months ago. I have now managed to set up a deal with some kind of establishment off of OP for the coming Thursday. It is listed as a VVIP establishment and they didn't really have any problem with me not being Korean. Although I have no clue what exactly I will be getting myself into LOL. The prices are premium level. I am on a solo mission in Seoul. Will follow up with a debrief. If I am still alive.

Made an appointment with the same Hyugetel in Gangnam that I visited the other week. Strangely enough, I was sent to a different building in a different area of Gangnam. It was still located near Gangnam station, but roughly 10 minutes walk from the officetel building they had sent me to previously.

Anyway 30 min BBFS 100,000 won, but I spent more like 40 minutes in the room and the girl didn't seem to mind that we spent extra time together. In fact, she was very talkative and we chatted for about 10 minutes before getting down to business. Although she spoke almost no English, she spoke Korean well. While we were talking I caught myself thinking about how strange it was that a Thai girl and a white guy were speaking Korean to one another in a random officetel in Gangnam.

She was young at only 21, and I think because of her age she wasn't the best performer. Her lack of performance, however, was offset by the tightness of her pussy.

In truth, it was a bit off-putting to see how this bubbly, young, talkative girl could get so quiet during sex. It was as if she completely shut down during the act. However, on the plus side, she let me use her body how I saw fit.

Like so many Thai women I've met in Korea, this one also confirmed that I was the first white guy she had been with in Korea. She told me that her other foreign customers had all been East Asian, I. E. , Chinese and Japanese who live in the country and speak Korean.

Unfortunately having just checked Opgani, this Hyugetel is no longer in operation and the girls have scattered to other locations all around the city. For what it's worth, this seems to happen quite frequently. I believe this Hyugetel was only in operation for 2 to 3 months at most.

[QUOTE=PattySmitty88;2746959]I found it on this forum, I did a search for the names used. Exit #4 out of Sillim station. Go straight and after about 3-4 roads (small alleys included) you'll see a building on your left that's 4 stories. Being advertised on the third floor is a board games cafe and you'll see "K" for the fourth floor. This is it.

The providers name rhymes with engine and starts with an M. She told me she only works Friday-Sunday. I got lucky because she covered down for someone else. She does not do oral, but even if you don't pay extra she'll still let you roam and suck on her breasts. Even said to me, you can jerk yourself off if you want to. Have fun.

Does anyone else have other kiss date recommendations?[/QUOTE]I tried to go on Sunday but there was a note on the door with a number. I texted it looking for an appointment but got a reply that none were available.

Afterwards I headed to the one mentioned on this forum that's across the street from L7 Hongdae. There's an English letter K sign and it's on the second floor. Paid 100 k for an hour, and twenty minutes after I brushed my teeth a hot 22 year old Korean came in. She immediately offered me 50 k for HJ, 100 for BJ, and 200 for FS. Took her up on the BJ. Service was good, we made out and she took off her top and let me play with her boobs first. CIM and she spit into a cup then used the mouthwash that was right there. I think next time I'll opt for 30 min+FS.

Absolutely no issue with me being a white guy. Door girl even spoke basic English. Girl in the room and I only conversed in Korean. The shop is moving in October to underneath the coffee place around the corner. See photo for the sign outside showing where they're going.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2746120]-Massage Republic.

Bella. 300 k.

This girl was spicy. Mixed Hispanic and Asian I believe, going to college here. Met her at her hotel, walked in and was greeted with a welcoming personality. Her room was slightly messy but it wasn't enough to turn me away quite yet. We made out a bit and she instantly started dirty talking. Had her suck my dick on the couch, was a nice slow and smooth motion. Moved to her bed and shoved my dick in her mouth in a couple different positions. Ended up on my back and she rode me reverse CG, she was having a blast of a time. Turned her over for more of the same, basic missionary, picked her up and banged her carrying her (not sure wtf to call this), doggy, and finished all over her face and mouth. Chatted a bit, got hard pretty quick again. Some BJ, flat doggy, mish, then came in her ass in doggy. Girl can take a pounding. Best of all, she let me record with my phone throughout.[/QUOTE]Was always hesitant to book her. Thought she might have been a post op. Great report tho, might send her a message this weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!

Sooo.

Some of you might have laugh about this: the.

Rookie journey:

Mistake 1) I was browsing the OP site and looking at all the profiles and deals. And I kept telling myself how the hell can this be so cheap, I don't get it. The Korean economy ain't that bad, I simply don't understand how this can be a good business.

Come to find out. The prices I thought listed as for example 80'. Doesn't mean 80 000, but 800 000 LOL. Had to re do some financing after that lulz. So basically I am looking at 800 000 - 1 000 000 burn on this "meeting". Report will follow, but I don't really have anything to compare it with in Korea so.

I see most of you guys are talking about 150 k - 200 k level, I must be a complete idiot with what I am about to do. But being a rookie is expensive: the.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2747588]Sooo.

Some of you might have laugh about this: the.

Rookie journey:

Mistake 1) I was browsing the OP site and looking at all the profiles and deals. And I kept telling myself how the hell can this be so cheap, I don't get it. The Korean economy ain't that bad, I simply don't understand how this can be a good business.

Come to find out. The prices I thought listed as for example 80'. Doesn't mean 80 000, but 800 000 LOL. Had to re do some financing after that lulz. So basically I am looking at 800 000 - 1 000 000 burn on this "meeting". Report will follow, but I don't really have anything to compare it with in Korea so.

I see most of you guys are talking about 150 k - 200 k level, I must be a complete idiot with what I am about to do. But being a rookie is expensive: the.[/QUOTE]Give her a tip and say no thanks. Might save you 700000.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2747656]Give her a tip and say no thanks. Might save you 700000.[/QUOTE]But is it true that these so called VVIP on OP charge at that price range? Or am I being taken on a rookie journey.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2747660]But is it true that these so called VVIP on OP charge at that price range? Or am I being taken on a rookie journey.[/QUOTE]Did you pay yet?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2747826]Did you pay yet?[/QUOTE]Not yet, but I don't see how that answer my question tho LOL.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2747588]Sooo.

Some of you might have laugh about this: the.

Rookie journey:

Mistake 1) I was browsing the OP site and looking at all the profiles and deals. And I kept telling myself how the hell can this be so cheap, I don't get it. The Korean economy ain't that bad, I simply don't understand how this can be a good business.

Come to find out. The prices I thought listed as for example 80'. Doesn't mean 80 000, but 800 000 LOL. Had to re do some financing after that lulz. So basically I am looking at 800 000 - 1 000 000 burn on this "meeting". Report will follow, but I don't really have anything to compare it with in Korea so.

I see most of you guys are talking about 150 k - 200 k level, I must be a complete idiot with what I am about to do. But being a rookie is expensive: the.[/QUOTE]You're right, Koreans count money in 10,000 won notes or "man wons". Thus 10 man wons equals 100,000 won.

Because they have advertised the price up front, you're not being ripped off. Personally, I wouldn't go with such an expensive provider, but it's certainly an option available to those with money to burn. In fact, one or two posters on this forum have used the VVIP services and reported having had a good time. Without having used a VVIP service, the impression I get is that the women they offer are modelesque (young, leggy, and white-skinned with pert natural breasts and a beautiful angular face). I mean, if I were to pay that much money, I would expect such perfection.

Of course, you can spend significantly less by going to a Kiss bang, massage parlor, Anma, or RLD. None of these services require Korean language skills and all seem to accept foreigners on a regular basis. At these places the quality of the women can be a gamble. There are attractive women, no doubt, but there are also women who may be less conventionally beautiful. There may also be women who are less inclined to perform and who do the bare minimum. It really is a crap shoot and even if you become a regular, your mileage may vary from visit to visit, but at least you will know what to expect.

If you go through with the VVIP treatment, please write up a report.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2747433]I tried to go on Sunday but there was a note on the door with a number. I texted it looking for an appointment but got a reply that none were available.

Afterwards I headed to the one mentioned on this forum that's across the street from L7 Hongdae. There's an English letter K sign and it's on the second floor. Paid 100 k for an hour, and twenty minutes after I brushed my teeth a hot 22 year old Korean came in. She immediately offered me 50 k for HJ, 100 for BJ, and 200 for FS. Took her up on the BJ. Service was good, we made out and she took off her top and let me play with her boobs first. CIM and she spit into a cup then used the mouthwash that was right there. I think next time I'll opt for 30 min+FS.

Absolutely no issue with me being a white guy. Door girl even spoke basic English. Girl in the room and I only conversed in Korean. The shop is moving in October to underneath the coffee place around the corner. See photo for the sign outside showing where they're going.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure I had the same one LOL.

I recently visited the King Thai Watpho near Hongik university. I felt that the quality had gone down significantly. I had an ok time and the providers do offer FS.

I used to visit regularly last year and I had a favorite who used to give me an amazing and a long teasing / edging massage followed by FS. Since I was a regular I used to try her often and she was one of my favorites but now she seems to have gone AWOL. My biggest mistake was not to have asked her name and number. She was a single mom with a slender built and short.

From what I understand there is a pretty high churn among providers. Can anyone recommend a provider at a location that provides a very nice teasing massage with a good bum and jewels massage.

Any help is appreciated. Did anyone have a similar experience at King Thai Watpho? If so, do you know her name?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2748017]You're right, Koreans count money in 10,000 won notes or "man wons". Thus 10 man wons equals 100,000 won.

Because they have advertised the price up front, you're not being ripped off. Personally, I wouldn't go with such an expensive provider, but it's certainly an option available to those with money to burn. In fact, one or two posters on this forum have used the VVIP services and reported having had a good time. Without having used a VVIP service, the impression I get is that the women they offer are modelesque (young, leggy, and white-skinned with pert natural breasts and a beautiful angular face). I mean, if I were to pay that much money, I would expect such perfection.

Of course, you can spend significantly less by going to a Kiss bang, massage parlor, Anma, or RLD. None of these services require Korean language skills and all seem to accept foreigners on a regular basis. At these places the quality of the women can be a gamble. There are attractive women, no doubt, but there are also women who may be less conventionally beautiful. There may also be women who are less inclined to perform and who do the bare minimum. It really is a crap shoot and even if you become a regular, your mileage may vary from visit to visit, but at least you will know what to expect.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. To be honest I haven't researched enough on the other options. I will def write a report after my meeting, I haven't written reports here before so if there is specific information you want me to include and / or in a format please let me know LOL.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2747903]Not yet, but I don't see how that answer my question tho LOL.[/QUOTE]Why doesn't it? Be thankful you didn't get finaically raped and move on.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2748309]Why doesn't it? Be thankful you didn't get finaically raped and move on.[/QUOTE]LOL, mate it's 700 k won not the end of the world. I did actually meet her and it was worth it, good looking 20 something Korean girl, eager to please. English skills were non-existent, but it worked out well regardless.

No upselling, no "I don't do this and that".

Could you get the same at a fraction of the price? No idea, I haven't tried any other service.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2746120]-7 Spa (near Gangnam Station.

Was not allowed to partake their services. Foreigner life, LOL.

-Gold Anma.

Had two experiences here, both were very similar. 300 k.

Girl #1 (Sujie? Something like that.).

Tall, thin with nice manmades. Backside wasn't the best asset. Typical table shower with follow on sex. Highlight for the session was ending with BBBBJCIM. She had great technique.

Girl #2.

Short, petite, died blonde hair. She was probably in her late 20's, but her personality and energy was very positive. We communicated via translator app and hit all the positions. Pretty sure I bottomed her out, she told me she just about done for the night after I finished in doggy, LOL. I would probably go back for her if I recalled her name.

-Massage Republic.

Bella. 300 k.

This girl was spicy. Mixed Hispanic and Asian I believe, going to college here. Met her at her hotel, walked in and was greeted with a welcoming personality. Her room was slightly messy but it wasn't enough to turn me away quite yet. We made out a bit and she instantly started dirty talking. Had her suck my dick on the couch, was a nice slow and smooth motion. Moved to her bed and shoved my dick in her mouth in a couple different positions. Ended up on my back and she rode me reverse CG, she was having a blast of a time. Turned her over for more of the same, basic missionary, picked her up and banged her carrying her (not sure wtf to call this), doggy, and finished all over her face and mouth. Chatted a bit, got hard pretty quick again. Some BJ, flat doggy, mish, then came in her ass in doggy. Girl can take a pounding. Best of all, she let me record with my phone throughout.[/QUOTE]I was trying to decide between Jace and Bella from MR, but I think you made up my mind here. Am I reading that right that you got bbfscia? Did she offer, or did you ask?

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2748109]I recently visited the King Thai Watpho near Hongik university. I felt that the quality had gone down significantly. I had an ok time and the providers do offer FS.

I used to visit regularly last year and I had a favorite who used to give me an amazing and a long teasing / edging massage followed by FS. Since I was a regular I used to try her often and she was one of my favorites but now she seems to have gone AWOL. My biggest mistake was not to have asked her name and number. She was a single mom with a slender built and short.

From what I understand there is a pretty high churn among providers. Can anyone recommend a provider at a location that provides a very nice teasing massage with a good bum and jewels massage.

Any help is appreciated. Did anyone have a similar experience at King Thai Watpho? If so, do you know her name?[/QUOTE]So I was over that way for lunch yesterday actually taking one of the girls I know from a shop in Jamsil. We didn't have time to play so I thought let me check it out. Paid the normal 70 or 80 k for the 1. 5 hour Aroma. Ended up waiting in the room for like 30 minutes. Girl came in "Sara" she is thin kind of cute. She spoke ok English. The massage was iffy at best when she was doing my leg she did go through my ass crack making sure to hit my J and give out a laugh but I noticed it was just one hand she was playing a game on her phone with the other hand. I made sure to make a few smartass comments about being on her phone. I think she took the hint after soending 20 minutes on the same leg. Did the usual flipover and spent about 10 minutes rubbing the front upper thigh before she said " you want special massage" normally I would have said no but I decided " I'm now going to fuck her just to make a point". She said 100 k for FS so fuck it why not. No foreplay straigh to a rubber on the J. Laid down and closed her eyes. So I am thinking, oh you thing you're going to starfish me, not today. Threw her legs up hit a couple deep strokes and she opened her eyes giving me good eye contact. Then picked her up and bounced her on the dick for a good 10 minutes before some Asian cowgirl. Hey I am old my legs got tired. She was getting into it so much so that the timer went off and she just swiped the alarm off. Then she did the grinding riding on top while I squeezed and played with the be cups.

Flipped her to her back pinned her legs down butterfly style gave her another 10 or so minutes before I decided it was time to let her have the juice. Popped leaned back against the wall to catch my breath. She lay there I think in shock before she said " oh you very strong, thank you. You come back see me. I just grinned and said " next time we just sex no massage" she giggled and said "ok".

Not sure I will go back thought about asking for her Line but decided I am juggling to much right now.

All in all a soso adventure.

Hello all. Visiting the city next week and wanted to ask some general questions.

I am Korean who speaks fluent Korean and visited about 10 years ago so its been a while.

1. Money- Is ATM is best option?

2. Phone- When contacting the Officetel providers, can you call through Kakao or has to be Korean cell phone number?

3. Gangnam- Have stayed in Yeoksam station off Gangnam which has many massage places that offer full service last time. Can you recommend any?

4. Twitter girls- When searching for OPsite on twitter, there were many girls have profiles that offering service. Is this scam or legitimate?

Sorry for many questions and if you are around, feel free to reach out as well.

Sent out like 20 texts to sites from OP in Dongdaemon, Silim, and Hongdae and got 0 responses. Just my typical " you take polite Americans as guests". The girls I have in my stable have said if the Korean men are visiting then they are not taking foreigners. Will keep fighting the good fight and let yall know what I come up with.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2748144]Thanks for your reply. To be honest I haven't researched enough on the other options. I will def write a report after my meeting, I haven't written reports here before so if there is specific information you want me to include and / or in a format please let me know LOL.[/QUOTE]There's no specific format, but if you could answer the following questions, I think it would flesh out your report.

Did you meet at her hotel or yours? How much time and how many shots? How would you describe her looks? Perfect skin, hairy Bush, natural tits, athletic build, spindly limbs?

Also, what did she do and what did she allow you to do to her? Did you wear a condom? Was she active and engaged or laid back and relaxed?

And most importantly, would you spend that same amount of money on her again?

Of course, add any other relevant detail to help describe the experience.

News about Yeongdeungpo RLD for those interested:

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/469/0000699215?[/URL]

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/469/0000699188?[/URL]

I tried to go to the Sillim kiss bang just outside Sillim exit 4 again. This time I was let in, told to wait, and in about five minutes given my money back and told the last manager had already left. This was around 10 or 11 pm on a Friday. However, I was told to try going across the street to another place. Sure enough, right after the first crosswalk to the other side (the side you would get out on if you used exit 5) there is another sign that reads "The Date K 21" with "date" written phonetically in Korean. So you can just look for the big "K. ".

90 k for an hour. A very cute, but not hot, Korean girl and I made out for about 15 minutes before I asked for service. HJ 30 k, BJ 100, FS 150. She said those are the prices in the shop but she actually didn't do BJ. I was a little disappointed because she had great lips, but I opted for FS. She asked to see if I was too big first and seemed slightly hesitant, but we had gotten along so well she said she would try it when I promised to go slow and gentle. To my surprise, she did actually start off with a nice little 5 min+ BJ. Afterwards I put on a condom and FS started. Chatted about the shop and other things until the time ran out afterwards. She says they get lots of foreigners there, mostly Chinese and Japanese, but just like at the place in Hongdae there was no issue with taking me as a white guy. All talk and business was done in Korean but I'm sure you could get by without. The girl I had's name started with S and she looked a bit like Chel from "The Road to El Dorado" but with very white skin. I did see a much hotter girl walking around as I was leaving. I think I'll definitely be back, not sure if I'll bother trying with the other Sillim shop again.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2748632]LOL, mate it's 700 k won not the end of the world. I did actually meet her and it was worth it, good looking 20 something Korean girl, eager to please. English skills were non-existent, but it worked out well regardless.

No upselling, no "I don't do this and that".

Could you get the same at a fraction of the price? No idea, I haven't tried any other service.[/QUOTE]
You overpaid..plain and simple.
Yeah you can get the same for cheaper
You just fell for it...of course she was eager lol

Went to the Sillim kiss bang on the exit 5 side again. Had to wait an hour and was only offered HJ for 50. Girl was late 20's and attractive enough but not as good an experience as last time.

It being hit or miss is all a part of the experience I think and I'll probably be back anyway, though I'll definitely try my luck at the place in Hongdae first since that's where I met the hottest girl so far.

My wife was away for the afternoon, so I sent off a flurry of texts to see which Hyugetel would respond quickest. Ding ding ding, I hit the jackpot; Persistence paid off and a Hyugetel in Jamsil which had previously told me "Sorry. No service" on at least three occasions over the last year relented and set me up for an appointment.

The woman I booked was as beautiful as she was in the advert. Cute face, great hip to waist ratio, and perky natural tits with thick tasty nipples.

She let me know that I was the first foreigner she's been with, and like so many other Asian women, she was worried about dick size. She was a little anxious and played up how big I was while scrubbing and rubbing me in the shower. Sensing that she was genuinely worried, I took it slow once things began.

I chose the 70 min two shot bbfscip course for 170,000 won. She had good BJ skills and used her tongue to lick from tip to balls. When her mouth lingered on the balls her hand went to work on the shaft. I appreciated that she knew to glide up and down rather than squeeze and yank. Anyway, between her mouth and hand skills I was rearing to go and once I stuck it in her, I didn't last long. Even though I was moving slow, I got my first shot off fairly quickly because she was tight and sexy and I was horny as hell.

After busting my first nut, we chatted for 10 minutes so I could recover before going at it again. Because I had not left her in pain, we went at it with a bit more vigor the second time. After fucking for about 25 minutes (which was exhausting) and getting close to cumming a handful of times (which was a little frustrating), I knew I wouldn't be able blow a second shot within the time limit. The sweet women did everything she could to help, but unfortunately my refractory period is a bit longer than it used to be.

I will definitely return. In fact, it's my new favorite Hyugetel; it's in a prime location, it has a clean and spacious room in a new building, and there are a large selection of women on the advert who I hope to meet over the next few months.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2748632]LOL, mate it's 700 k won not the end of the world. I did actually meet her and it was worth it, good looking 20 something Korean girl, eager to please. English skills were non-existent, but it worked out well regardless.

No upselling, no "I don't do this and that".

Could you get the same at a fraction of the price? No idea, I haven't tried any other service.[/QUOTE]Like others, I would love to hear more about the level of service. Did you get multiple shots? And was everything done with protection?

I think it's fine that you YOLO'd and took the plunge. It sounds fun and at least now you know.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2747433]I tried to go on Sunday but there was a note on the door with a number. I texted it looking for an appointment but got a reply that none were available.

Afterwards I headed to the one mentioned on this forum that's across the street from L7 Hongdae. There's an English letter K sign and it's on the second floor. Paid 100 k for an hour, and twenty minutes after I brushed my teeth a hot 22 year old Korean came in. She immediately offered me 50 k for HJ, 100 for BJ, and 200 for FS. Took her up on the BJ. Service was good, we made out and she took off her top and let me play with her boobs first. CIM and she spit into a cup then used the mouthwash that was right there. I think next time I'll opt for 30 min+FS.

Absolutely no issue with me being a white guy. Door girl even spoke basic English. Girl in the room and I only conversed in Korean. The shop is moving in October to underneath the coffee place around the corner. See photo for the sign outside showing where they're going.[/QUOTE]The sign says they're moving on the 5th, but the current location is completely torn apart with nobody there. At the new location underneath Mega Coffee, it's also under construction, so are they just temporarily closed in both places?

Also, the place is called Secret K, but it seems to also go by Kiss Time? They're the same thing right?

Are there any other Kiss Bangs in Hongdae besides that one? Isn't Kiss 7 closed?

Hello all,

After being a long-time lurker on this forum, I felt like it was my turn to contribute some reports. Unfortunately, as a non-Korean resident, this will be my only reviews for some time now until I can go visit Korea again.

Ga-In Anma:

I was able to enter the front and was greeted by a male receptionist who told me the place was "closed for renovation / construction". He then told me that if I wanted to, he could drive me to I think it was a secondary site (my Korean is rusty so may be interpreting it wrong). I thanked him but politely declined. Now, I do love K-girls, but I'm still not going to get in a car with a stranger who will then take me to some unknown location. Just a personal thing (I'm sure the guy was just doing his best to make sure business was not affected. Would explain the cars in the front of the building though).

Ace Anma:

Is this place gone? Tried following the directions and looking for the sign but couldn't find it. Went to the nearby Fish Anma instead.

Fish Anma:

After failing to find Ace, went to the nearby Fish. Was greeted by a male receptionist who asked if I made a reservation. Told him I did not and was told that there was an approx. 30 minute wait. Since I had time to kill, I told him sure and was told 250 k for 60 minutes. I paid what was due, given a locker key and was escorted by a woman to a side room of the lobby. She asked me for what style of girl I wanted, to which I simply replied a pretty one. She then escorted me to the waiting room and was told to clean up / shower, which I did (Note: the shower room is in a single large room with some small divides / stalls but don't expect any privacy.) Went to the waiting room in one of the provided robes, and watched the soccer game which was being played on the large screen TV.

After a while, the male receptionist from before called for me and escorted me to an elevator. When the doors opened was greeted by a pretty (typical K-girl type face) approx. 5'3" woman in late 20's-early 30's with shoulder length black hair in a tight white dress. She took my hand and brought me to in front of a room. Before we got in though, she told me to sit down in the chair in front of the room. Initially thought this was some sort of contraband check but then she then untied the front of my robe and started sucking on my nipples / chest before providing some BBBJ. About 5 minutes later, took me into the room, think the door was left open as well because I could swear the action of others well.

Turns out the girl who saw me at the elevator was going to be the event girl as she started undressing. I certainly couldn't complain. Nicely shaped natural medium sized breasts with some ass as well. Although not skinny in terms of spinner K-pop idol, but nothing too excessive.

She got me to lay down on the bed and we started off with some DFKing. She then did more of the nipple play / licking that she had done earlier. Wasn't long before she went down for some BBBJ. No DT sadly. Not sure if this is common or not but she then asked me to get on my hands and knees and elevate my hips. Was a bit hesitant but she reassured me that it would feel good. I slowly did as she asked and next thing I knew she was sucking / licking my anus. Never really had this done to me before but all I knew was that it got me even harder (. So thank you for showing me another degen kink I have LOL). She must have seen me my member as she got me on my back and got a cover on. Went at it full missionary with a lot of DFKing.

Now here is a PSA for all mongers. Bring your own condoms if possible! Not sure what brands these anmas use but the condom the girl used on me felt unusually tight and uncomfortable.

I guess the girl could see that something was wrong and asked and I explained the problem. She must have thought I was going to ask for raw, and started panicking / explaining about how that was not allowed but I explained to her that was not the case. So I asked her if she could finish me off with BBBJ / HJ which she seemed ok to do so.

After getting my shot out, she offered some water / cigarettes to which I accepted the water. We sat on the couch next to the bed, chitchatting before she helped me to wash up a bit.

Overall, for my first anma experience I couldn't complain!

Castle / Lyra Anma:

Was fairly easy to find this place as it does stick out a little in comparison to its surrounding buildings (not sure if that is 100% good or bad thing). Same thing as with Fish, a receptionist greeted and asked me if I made a reservation. I told him I did not and was told there was a 20-minute wait. I accepted and paid the fee (it was either 250 k or 300 k for 60 minutes with me leaning more closer to the former). Unlike at Fish, I was told to take my shoes off in the front desk area. I was given my locker key and was directed towards the waiting / shower rooms. Same as Fish, the shower room was a large single room with multiple shower head stalls. The waiting room was a lot smaller than that of Fish.

After cleaning up and waiting, the receptionist requested me to follow him towards a flight of stairs. I went down them and was greeted by a cute (standard K-pop idol face type appearance), shoulder-length blonde haired 5'4" K-girl who was probably in her mid-20's. She was wearing a black spaghetti lace dress with some type of print design on it. She was a little distance and seemed unsure of herself and this feeling continued even when we went into our room. I was offered some water / cigarettes and took some water (not a smoker). I decided to get some small talk going on in hopes of trying to break the ice and warm her up to me. Long story short. It worked. She brightened up immediately when we started talking (especially when the conversation shifted towards pets) and boy did she have a cute laugh.

We then slowly started to feel each other up and started some light kissing. She then helped me out of the provided shower robe and then she took off her dress. Again, she wasn't some uber skinny K-pop idol but still was pretty hot. Didn't have as large of a chest as the girl I had at Fish but compensated with a little more ass. She then got me to lay down and started to perform some nipple play and BBBJ. When I got hard enough, she got a cover on me and we went it missionary style. Now unlike her distant self before, it was as if a switch had been turned and she was trying her damn best to keep herself linked with me. She wrapped her arms around me and held me down tight, all the while we were DFKing to the point of us leaving us breathless. As I got to the end, we held hands and she held my hips down and tightened down hard, causing me to shoot my load into the cover. We laid down next to each other for a few minutes and then had another water / cigarette break. Had some more small talk and learned that part of her distance was that she is relatively new. Once you broke the ice with her, she was very expressive and quite talkative. We continued talking until time was nearly up, upon which she helped me wash up.

Overall, a very positive experience that was probably one of the more passionate sessions I ever had with a provider.

Note: I came back to Castle / Lyra for another session and as luck would have it, I was given the same girl again! She recognized me and the repeat session was just as good as the last one.

Bella (MR):

Was a bit hesitant to try and book her due to how TGTBT her pictures seemed and it didn't help that we had to reschedule very last minute. However, I am very glad I did.

This girl was something. A hot and well sexy mixed Asian / Latina with very nice proportions (IE a nice ass that was very well complemented by her large natural breasts. As soon as I got entered her room, I was greeted with the sight of her in a red robe. She gave me some DFKing right as the door closed and took off her robe while I took off my shoes. She then started grinding me, allowing me to roam my hands over her soft body for a few minutes while I took my clothes off. We got to her bed where we continued making out / foreplay and she led my hand towards her pussy, allowing FIV. I started with one finger but slowly added another after feeling how hot and wet she was. Her moaning got me really hard and she was giving me some serious "fuck me" eyes, which I was only more than happy to oblige. Shoved my dick in her pussy and rode her. Hard. Now, to say this girl loved getting screwed, would be an understatement. The dirty talk. The moaning / grunting. This girl just seemed to love sex. Not only that, she seemed to like it a bit rough as well. I pinched / bit gently on her nipples and she just seemed to love it.

After the first shot, we both cleaned up and rested on the bed. We talked a little bit and got to know some more details about her. She is indeed a college student in Korea. With my cock resting on her ass, it only took a little while later before I got hard again, something she reciprocated by wiggling her rear. Gave me some nice oral action. Got some DT in there as well. Then got her onto her back again and started off with some missionary and then spooning / side-by-side (think this is the position name). After the 2nd shot, we rested a bit and chatted until time was up.

Overall, for 300 k won, it was well worth the experience. She speaks decent English and is easy to communicate with. Her incall is indeed a little messy but the session more than made up for it.

In the end, I had a lot of fun in Korea seeing the sights and especially the women. Hope when I am able to come back, anmas such as Ga-in / Fish / Castle are still around.

On a side note, I did visit the YPD RLD during the daytime out of morbid curiosity. There is no way no one doesn't know what happens and the fact that it is located between two large department stores for all to see just makes me laugh at how prostitution is considered "illegal."

[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;2749974]The sign says they're moving on the 5th, but the current location is completely torn apart with nobody there. At the new location underneath Mega Coffee, it's also under construction, so are they just temporarily closed in both places?

Also, the place is called Secret K, but it seems to also go by Kiss Time? They're the same thing right?

Are there any other Kiss Bangs in Hongdae besides that one? Isn't Kiss 7 closed?[/QUOTE]I went there yesterday. It is closed.

[QUOTE=SlapStickFun01;2748649]So I was over that way for lunch yesterday actually taking one of the girls I know from a shop in Jamsil. We didn't have time to play so I thought let me check it out. Paid the normal 70 or 80 k for the 1. 5 hour Aroma. Ended up waiting in the room for like 30 minutes. Girl came in "Sara" she is thin kind of cute. She spoke ok English. The massage was iffy at best when she was doing my leg she did go through my ass crack making sure to hit my J and give out a laugh but I noticed it was just one hand she was playing a game on her phone with the other hand. I made sure to make a few smartass comments about being on her phone. I think she took the hint after soending 20 minutes on the same leg. Did the usual flipover and spent about 10 minutes rubbing the front upper thigh before she said " you want special massage" normally I would have said no but I decided " I'm now going to fuck her just to make a point". She said 100 k for FS so fuck it why not. No foreplay straigh to a rubber on the J. Laid down and closed her eyes. So I am thinking, oh you thing you're going to starfish me, not today. Threw her legs up hit a couple deep strokes and she opened her eyes giving me good eye contact. Then picked her up and bounced her on the dick for a good 10 minutes before some Asian cowgirl. Hey I am old my legs got tired. She was getting into it so much so that the timer went off and she just swiped the alarm off. Then she did the grinding riding on top while I squeezed and played with the be cups.

Flipped her to her back pinned her legs down butterfly style gave her another 10 or so minutes before I decided it was time to let her have the juice. Popped leaned back against the wall to catch my breath. She lay there I think in shock before she said " oh you very strong, thank you. You come back see me. I just grinned and said " next time we just sex no massage" she giggled and said "ok".

Not sure I will go back thought about asking for her Line but decided I am juggling to much right now.

All in all a soso adventure.[/QUOTE]Got it. Thanks a lot for the report. I think I know who are referring to. There were a few others who seem to have gone elsewhere. Any other place that you know which has a similar offering / service?

Great report!

I had a similar experience in Dao Anma [URL]https://anmatong.com/[/URL] as yours in Fish Anma. Except it felt a little more wild. Everything was the same as yours except 1 thing. When I was called to go downstairs, I was grouped with 2 other random Koreans. We were all wearing our bath robes and escorted into a lower floor hallway. We each sat on a chair (not facing each other LOL), with a decent amount of space between each of us. Then came the girls who also disrobed us, started sucking my nipples and BBBJ. Then came 2 other girls who came by to suck on my nipples while the main girl was sucking my dick. After a few minutes, the BJ girl swapped with another girl who wiped my penis with a wet tissue and continued the BBBJ. Then another really cute girl. My first girl came back, applied a cover, unbuttoned the bottom of her leotard and jumped on. It took all my determination not to finish right there. She then took me to the "anma" room where things proceeded as you described, except with lots of nuru massage. Damage was 260 k and was definitely worth it after a pathetic 2 week monger trip in the PI.

I'm hoping to return a couple more times before my trip ends in about a month. But your reports on Fish and Castle have got me curious on the both of them. I'll try to fit them in before I leave as well.

I also spotted a couple hotties in YDP RLD. I'll try to visit and write up a report soon. I was told YDP is good to visit after 10 PM and peaks around 12 AM. Is that the experience for most of you here?

[QUOTE=RyanPik13;2750156]Hello all,

After being a long-time lurker on this forum, I felt like it was my turn to contribute some reports. Unfortunately, as a non-Korean resident, this will be my only reviews for some time now until I can go visit Korea again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2751499]Great report!

I had a similar experience in Dao Anma [URL]https://anmatong.com/[/URL] as yours in Fish Anma. Except it felt a little more wild. Everything was the same as yours except 1 thing. When I was called to go downstairs, I was grouped with 2 other random Koreans. We were all wearing our bath robes and escorted into a lower floor hallway. We each sat on a chair (not facing each other LOL), with a decent amount of space between each of us. Then came the girls who also disrobed us, started sucking my nipples and BBBJ. Then came 2 other girls who came by to suck on my nipples while the main girl was sucking my dick. After a few minutes, the BJ girl swapped with another girl who wiped my penis with a wet tissue and continued the BBBJ. Then another really cute girl. My first girl came back, applied a cover, unbuttoned the bottom of her leotard and jumped on. It took all my determination not to finish right there. She then took me to the "anma" room where things proceeded as you described, except with lots of nuru massage. Damage was 260 k and was definitely worth it after a pathetic 2 week monger trip in the PI.

I'm hoping to return a couple more times before my trip ends in about a month. But your reports on Fish and Castle have got me curious on the both of them. I'll try to fit them in before I leave as well.

I also spotted a couple hotties in YDP RLD. I'll try to visit and write up a report soon. I was told YDP is good to visit after 10 PM and peaks around 12 AM. Is that the experience for most of you here?[/QUOTE]Wow great report! Thanks for sharing.

Always wanted to try Dao. I've been to fish, ace, Superman, lyra etc. Some new experience is always good . It's seems this was pretty smooth and they are open to foreigners. Unfortunately still not the case for Ga In .

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2730625]

…I then went back to my favorite haunt in Gangnam and had a good long session and massage with my favorite provider.
…
Curious to know from others,[/QUOTE]Hi Buddy1978, I think I've already seen a message where you mentioned about this. I'm also enjoy sometimes some casual place, it can be quite surprising as well. I'm curious if you could recommend that place, or at least give some hint. Thanks!

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2751499]Great report!

I had a similar experience in Dao Anma [URL]https://anmatong.com/[/URL] as yours in Fish Anma. Except it felt a little more wild. Everything was the same as yours except 1 thing. When I was called to go downstairs, I was grouped with 2 other random Koreans. We were all wearing our bath robes and escorted into a lower floor hallway. We each sat on a chair (not facing each other LOL), with a decent amount of space between each of us. Then came the girls who also disrobed us, started sucking my nipples and BBBJ. Then came 2 other girls who came by to suck on my nipples while the main girl was sucking my dick. After a few minutes, the BJ girl swapped with another girl who wiped my penis with a wet tissue and continued the BBBJ. Then another really cute girl. My first girl came back, applied a cover, unbuttoned the bottom of her leotard and jumped on. It took all my determination not to finish right there. She then took me to the "anma" room where things proceeded as you described, except with lots of nuru massage. Damage was 260 k and was definitely worth it after a pathetic 2 week monger trip in the PI.

I'm hoping to return a couple more times before my trip ends in about a month. But your reports on Fish and Castle have got me curious on the both of them. I'll try to fit them in before I leave as well.

I also spotted a couple hotties in YDP RLD. I'll try to visit and write up a report soon. I was told YDP is good to visit after 10 PM and peaks around 12 AM. Is that the experience for most of you here?[/QUOTE]You had 2 pathetic weeks in PI? Philippines??

If so. You must have been doing something wrong.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2751499]Great report!

I had a similar experience in Dao Anma [URL]https://anmatong.com/[/URL] as yours in Fish Anma. Except it felt a little more wild. Everything was the same as yours except 1 thing. When I was called to go downstairs, I was grouped with 2 other random Koreans. We were all wearing our bath robes and escorted into a lower floor hallway. We each sat on a chair (not facing each other LOL), with a decent amount of space between each of us. Then came the girls who also disrobed us, started sucking my nipples and BBBJ. Then came 2 other girls who came by to suck on my nipples while the main girl was sucking my dick. After a few minutes, the BJ girl swapped with another girl who wiped my penis with a wet tissue and continued the BBBJ. Then another really cute girl. My first girl came back, applied a cover, unbuttoned the bottom of her leotard and jumped on. It took all my determination not to finish right there. She then took me to the "anma" room where things proceeded as you described, except with lots of nuru massage. Damage was 260 k and was definitely worth it after a pathetic 2 week monger trip in the PI.

I'm hoping to return a couple more times before my trip ends in about a month. But your reports on Fish and Castle have got me curious on the both of them. I'll try to fit them in before I leave as well.

I also spotted a couple hotties in YDP RLD. I'll try to visit and write up a report soon. I was told YDP is good to visit after 10 PM and peaks around 12 AM. Is that the experience for most of you here?[/QUOTE]Would Dao be accepting of foreigners? Your experience sounds like a good time.

[QUOTE=Zarcady;2702218]No expectations currently of any particular dates. Depending on who PMs and if any of the dates line up.

Yes, I'm currently in Korea and will be here for around a year so I'm pretty flexible with the dates.[/QUOTE]Are you still doing meet ups? Or no longer? Wondering if it's possible to join in on the action as well.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2751701]You had 2 pathetic weeks in PI? Philippines??

If so. You must have been doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]Probably impatience more than anything else. I only actually spent about 5 days giving P Burgos, KTVs, and Tinder a try. After that, I gave up and went the tourist route in Cebu.

Between Thailand, Vietnam, S. Korea, and Philippines, Philippines is dead last for mongering as a Korean. Even as a non Korean, I've heard similar sentiments from several people.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2751787]Probably impatience more than anything else. I only actually spent about 5 days giving P Burgos, KTVs, and Tinder a try. After that, I gave up and went the tourist route in Cebu.

Between Thailand, Vietnam, S. Korea, and Philippines, Philippines is dead last for mongering as a Korean. Even as a non Korean, I've heard similar sentiments from several people.[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I was there for about a month and felt like a rockstar almost every night. I think you either didn't plan well enough, didn't meet the right people, or didn't research all the threads on the ISG Phillipines forum. I read as much as I could in the threads all the way back to about a year ago, then setup Tinder, Bumble, Badoo, DIA, FiliCupid, and PinaLove. I was literally spoiled for choice, was severely overwhelmed with girls hitting me up. Now I'm not some hearthrob, but I'm in my late 20's. Early 30's, not white, fit and take care of myself. Most of the guys there were 40's+, so if you're young then it makes things alot easier cause you'll really stand out. I also talked to the expats there and hung out with them, they showed me around and even gave me tips. This isn't the right thread to even discuss PH, but if you're in SK, then flights to go there are around $300 or less. Girls will compete for you, and since you're Korean (I'm assuming) then you were prob going to the wrong places. As I found out the Korean / Japanese / Chinese spots had some of the prettiest girls who were very catering, not to say the non-asian places had ugly girls but just the concentration was less. And they tend to go LT and overnight easier with you guys, I didn't mind cause I liked plowing 2 - 3 girls a day there at a minimum. Only ones that stayed overnight were the non-P4 P girls, and I had a hard time getting rid of them the next morning after my much needed morning breakfast fuck. The regular girls I'd meet in-between my outings to fill the voids, which weren't too hard to take back to the room as you still got to be able to talk and vibe with the girl. Just that there was less effort needed overall. I even forgot to check my Badoo while there, then loaded it when I was back here and saw I had 60+ girls who swiped / liked me on there. I now see why PH is so addictive, going to hit up VN and Thai as well, and most def going to do a trip back to PH. Just saying not to cross PH off, the information is all here in the ISG forum. It is the most basic roadmap for success there, follow it as close as possible and make changes to accommodate your style / preferences as you go (which are very minimal).

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2751787]Probably impatience more than anything else. I only actually spent about 5 days giving P Burgos, KTVs, and Tinder a try. After that, I gave up and went the tourist route in Cebu.

Between Thailand, Vietnam, S. Korea, and Philippines, Philippines is dead last for mongering as a Korean. Even as a non Korean, I've heard similar sentiments from several people.[/QUOTE]Are you serious? Those people must be ones in your bubble and you are all doing something wrong LOL. PI is the easiest BY FAR with no language barriers as far as english and GFE with the local chicks.

Haven't been out much lately and when I can sneak away I've just been trying new / different local spinning poles and thai shops. Nothing too special to report.

However, I did go back to the place behind Gongdeok emart a few weeks ago. A few on here were so fond of it I thought I'd give it another chance despite it not offering me anything to write home about the few times I'd been there. They've since moved from the 3rd floor of that building to the basement of the building next door. Very nice shop, everything new, bathrooms / rooms are great. Paid the standard 80 and had a REALLY good massage from the usual (but new) middle aged Koreans that are at those types of shops. After the excellent massage was an ever better he, starting off with a nice prostate massage and then she got down to the good part, all while giving me free roam, top and bottom, FIV etc. Was pleasantly surprised by the whole experience and plan on repeating when I get the chance. Every now and then I like to switch it up and when these neighborhood massage shops are good, the experience cannot be beaten at that price.

Anyone else got any new massage places or updates?

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2752102]Haven't been out much lately and when I can sneak away I've just been trying new / different local spinning poles and thai shops. Nothing too special to report.

However, I did go back to the place behind Gongdeok emart a few weeks ago. A few on here were so fond of it I thought I'd give it another chance despite it not offering me anything to write home about the few times I'd been there. They've since moved from the 3rd floor of that building to the basement of the building next door. Very nice shop, everything new, bathrooms / rooms are great. Paid the standard 80 and had a REALLY good massage from the usual (but new) middle aged Koreans that are at those types of shops. After the excellent massage was an ever better he, starting off with a nice prostate massage and then she got down to the good part, all while giving me free roam, top and bottom, FIV etc. Was pleasantly surprised by the whole experience and plan on repeating when I get the chance. Every now and then I like to switch it up and when these neighborhood massage shops are good, the experience cannot be beaten at that price.

Anyone else got any new massage places or updates?[/QUOTE]Sounds good!

Actually my favorite place was near gyodae station, a bit after exit 1. But my favorite provider left. Once, she came early in the room while I was in the shower. I thought she came to help me to dry, which she did but actually started to suck me directly while I was still standing and drying myself. I got actually pretty much the same treatment each single time I have been there again. Her Attitude was great. That's why like you I'm still curious about barber poles / massage because there are hidden gems out there. Do you have any place to recommend around seocho / gangnam?

[QUOTE=PleasureHunt;2752144]Sounds good!

Actually my favorite place was near gyodae station, a bit after exit 1. But my favorite provider left. Once, she came early in the room while I was in the shower. I thought she came to help me to dry, which she did but actually started to suck me directly while I was still standing and drying myself. I got actually pretty much the same treatment each single time I have been there again. Her Attitude was great. That's why like you I'm still curious about barber poles / massage because there are hidden gems out there. Do you have any place to recommend around seocho / gangnam?[/QUOTE]I don't frequent that area often so I don't have much to offer. Visited a few spas down there that I found on opgani and had some good times, but its been years since I've been back and doubt they're even around anymore.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2752442]I don't frequent that area often so I don't have much to offer. Visited a few spas down there that I found on opgani and had some good times, but its been years since I've been back and doubt they're even around anymore.[/QUOTE]No worries! Thanks for your reply though.

Was checking yeoksam area through NAVER and Google maps, and actually found something interesting. There is a place called (yeoksam, exit 8) and when you check place details, website is informed as opgani. Well if this is not a hint. Has anyone been there before? I'm so curious to drop by.

[QUOTE=PleasureHunt;2752469]Was checking yeoksam area through NAVER and Google maps, and actually found something interesting. There is a place called (yeoksam, exit 8) and when you check place details, website is informed as opgani. Well if this is not a hint. Has anyone been there before? I'm so curious to drop by.[/QUOTE]Seems like it doesn't accept Korean words. Place name is "Glory massage" (37.5024095, 127.0393015).

My friend showed me around some of the RDL window shops again. We first went to Paju. There were a few very cute ladies there. I'd guess that their size (number of shops) is about 3 to 4 times the size of YDL. But they start at 150 k for 30 min non-GFE service. I figured the YDP window shops are a much better deal. If I'm just going to get a wham-bam-thank-you-maam kind of service, I'd rather pay 100 k. So we headed back down to YDP and found a couple hot ladies there. I found a really cute one in a school girl uniform. But by the time we turned around and made it to her shop, the light were out (she was taken). So just a couple more shops down was another hot lady whom I chose to see.

She told me to wait for her upstairs (gave me a room number). Told me to wear my shoes upstairs, but off before entering the room. In the room, she asked how long I was going to stay. 100 k for 15 min, 150 k for 30 min, and 250 k for 1 HR. I opted for the 100 k. She started by sucking my nipples and a mediocre BBBJ. We swapped to MISH position where I gave some attention to her wonderful, round manmade see's. She applied the cover and I entered in MISH. After a little while, we changed to K9 where I finished, admiring her perfect, slightly tanned body in the mirror as well as her ass. I'll probably be back to YDP, maybe once a week. $70 to bang some of these hot K girls is an amazing bargain. Even if it's non-GFE.

As I left, I saw the schoolgirl uniform girl was putting her makeup on again. And as soon as I got in my car, another customer came for her.

I was initially planning on going back to Dao to see another lady there that I really liked. But she out that day (Korean holiday). So I'll head back to Dao sometime soon, too.

On a side note, I just got Lasek surgery which will put me out of commission for a few days. It only cost $840 for both eyes. Lasik would've cost me $700 for both eyes. Lasek would've cost me at least $6 k in the US. If you're curious about it, feel free to hit up my inbox.

Another visit to Gold.

Paid standard rate. Same procedures, ended up having to wait about 20 minutes. (In hindsight, I should have used this time to get rid of a shot early LOL).

Went upstairs and met a lady named Hajin I believe. She had a very tight body with enhanced chest. Body was as perfect as I could ask. Virtually zero English but we got by with Papago. Took a quick shower and got to business. Her BBBJ was great and I was enjoying every moment, holding back. Had her suck me in about 3 different positions, and she also worked on rimming. I took my time with the intent to fill up the entire hour.

Eventually slipped the cover on and started in Mish. I almost blew right there because of how tight she was. She's definitely worked on her kegels. Moved to Spooning, cowgirl, and eventually doggy where I couldn't hold back pounding that nice body.

Probably the nicest experience I've had yet.

Still on the look out for a local hobbyist that wouldn't mind letting me tag along. Open to grab a beer or something. Maybe SinfullyKorean? LOL.

Thought I'd try out a kiss bang. Followed the directions posted on a previous report and exited Sillim station exit 4. I was told to wait a bit while they prepared a room. It was 50 k for 30 min and I think 100 k for 1 HR. I guess they had a sudden influx of customers. I was escorted to a room. I asked if I could decline a lady if I didn't like her. And the guy kindly let me know that you can't "choose" your lady here. So I waited inside on the large couch. A few minutes later, a 30 ish lady walks in. Unfortunately, she was quite large for my tastes. Probably about 145 lbs. I said Hi and she lied down next to me. We started making out almost immediately. She was a good kisser, so I did enjoy it. Eventually, I did get hard and she started to stroke my penis. I took that as a sign and took my pants off. And on cue, she took my shaft by her hand and started stroking me. Her bra was also loose, so I pulled them down and sucked on the large, natural see's. After about 15 minutes, I took over and masturbated onto her hand. She took her other hand and helped me putting the finishing strokes on. She then helped me clean up and we talked (mostly her) for the rest of the 30 minutes until the timer went off.

I didn't really ask if extras were available as I wasn't interested with her. I'll probably give it one or two more tries before giving up on this place. I'm hoping to find a young, thing K girl. Price is amazing at only $37 US. If only I can find that hottie.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2749114]You overpaid..plain and simple.
Yeah you can get the same for cheaper
You just fell for it...of course she was eager lol[/QUOTE]I'll most likely contact the same service again and pay the same range, works for me. Quality was good and so was the service, each to their own.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2749950]Like others, I would love to hear more about the level of service. Did you get multiple shots? And was everything done with protection?

I think it's fine that you YOLO'd and took the plunge. It sounds fun and at least now you know.[/QUOTE]Multiple shots, she didn't care about the time, she was about to go without protection and I actually suggested we use protection. I would def say she was K drama fit, but honestly there are a lot of hot Korean girls on a Friday night out if you go to a decent bar. Might not get to fuck them, but that's a different story.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2753524]Multiple shots, she didn't care about the time, she was about to go without protection and I actually suggested we use protection. I would def say she was K drama fit, but honestly there are a lot of hot Korean girls on a Friday night out if you go to a decent bar. Might not get to fuck them, but that's a different story.[/QUOTE]Do you still have the information for this service? I also assume you're a foreigner based on your previous email posts?

Do you have directions on how to get to the Paju rld? Like what station to go to and what exit to take. What direction to head towards and what to look for? I'm thinking of going to take a look around but can't seem to find directions. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2752687]My friend showed me around some of the RDL window shops again. We first went to Paju. There were a few very cute ladies there. I'd guess that their size (number of shops) is about 3 to 4 times the size of YDL. But they start at 150 k for 30 min non-GFE service. I figured the YDP window shops are a much better deal. If I'm just going to get a wham-bam-thank-you-maam kind of service, I'd rather pay 100 k. So we headed back down to YDP and found a couple hot ladies there. I found a really cute one in a school girl uniform. But by the time we turned around and made it to her shop, the light were out (she was taken). So just a couple more shops down was another hot lady whom I chose to see.

She told me to wait for her upstairs (gave me a room number). Told me to wear my shoes upstairs, but off before entering the room. In the room, she asked how long I was going to stay. 100 k for 15 min, 150 k for 30 min, and 250 k for 1 HR. I opted for the 100 k. She started by sucking my nipples and a mediocre BBBJ. We swapped to MISH position where I gave some attention to her wonderful, round manmade see's. She applied the cover and I entered in MISH. After a little while, we changed to K9 where I finished, admiring her perfect, slightly tanned body in the mirror as well as her ass. I'll probably be back to YDP, maybe once a week. $70 to bang some of these hot K girls is an amazing bargain. Even if it's non-GFE.

As I left, I saw the schoolgirl uniform girl was putting her makeup on again. And as soon as I got in my car, another customer came for her..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2753523]I'll most likely contact the same service again and pay the same range, works for me. Quality was good and so was the service, each to their own.[/QUOTE]Seoul is an expensive place. Even at various anma I did not get any good options for 300 k. If you found a very good option with great service for 700 k, I am not surprised at all. I think that is the baseline price for good quality in Korea. Especially for foreigners.

If she was good looking, service oriented, gave you multiple shots and wasn't a time watcher, then it's definitely a good option.

Even I might try out that service.

Met a hottie in Jamsil the other night. Tall at 170 cm with a slim waste and pert natural tits. Despite being smoking hot and giving good head, she was not into receiving. She got in 69 but kept pulling away from my tongue and when we kissed she was as passionate as a blow up doll--lips closed, no tongue, eyes shut, and likely to turn her head after each peck on the lips.

Later, she commented that I had wanted to kiss like a character from a western film, which I took to understand as a blanket statement that Thais don't kiss (Is this a thing? That being said, it does seem that roughly 50% of the women I've paid for are not into kissing, DATY, and 69 even though these options are specifically listed on their advertisements as offered services. Quite a few seem to have overly "sensitive" lips, clits, and nipples.

In the end it was 100,000 won for BBFS. Pulling out and cumming on her back saved 10,000 won.

Hello,

Korean here might be visiting in a couple weeks.

Very used to Anma and OPs. Was wondering if anyone has tried the Chooljang services where a girl will come to your place, motel, or hotel?

Not sure if they're legit or not.

Also was wondering the best current site. I used to use bamjeon but I think that went out of commission a while ago.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TofuMan91;2754654]Hello,

Korean here might be visiting in a couple weeks.

Very used to Anma and OPs. Was wondering if anyone has tried the Chooljang services where a girl will come to your place, motel, or hotel?

Not sure if they're legit or not.

Also was wondering the best current site. I used to use bamjeon but I think that went out of commission a while ago.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bamjeon is definitely down. I never used it myself, but the site has been in the news a lot this year because the owner was caught in the Philippines and brought back to Korea. He stood trial recently and as of yesterday he was sentenced to 7 years in prison and given a 5 million dollar fine.

The site I'm fondest of is opgani9. They advertise Anmas, OPs and everything in-between. Check it out. I'm sure you will find what you're looking for.

I've never tried outcall services, so I can't give you any information on that, but maybe another user on the forum can tell you about their experiences.

This isn't my first time to Seoul. Looking for some new experiences other than MR. Can anyone point me in the right direction. I've seen some post of RLDs. But can't find where then are. Or info and locations for Anmis. Pm me or just reply to help others is fine. Also not a native Korean and limited on speaking the language.

Coming to Seoul. Staying near Yongsan. Is there and Anmas or RLDs to hit up? Any info would be great. I've tried the MR and CoL in calls. Looking for something different. Please send me what you got. Coming to Seoul soon. Thanks.

Landed. Went straight here since I knew where it was and had an amazing experience 4 years ago when it was Castle Anma.

Well, it's different now. Still same locker room and sauna set up but I paid 300 k for the "club" experience and had 3 girls rotate BBBJ on me and then the 4th and "main partner" took over. Last time, the main act happened in a private room, this time I was in a huge room eith 5-6 curtained off beds and a community shower in the middle. Seemed like a setup for a big orgy. There were other girls and their customers on the other beds and it was a bit weird but I just focused on my task at hand and got through it. Service was ok, girls were average (a tad older), but for the ease of location and foreigner friendliness I would go back. Definitely not as good as Castle Anma before the change.

I'the love to check out your Anmas, kissing rooms or hobby related venues and will write up a report if someone would provide names and addresses. I'm going to try Dao and Fish next.

Thanks,

J.

If you pay for a hh or hour at most of these places do you get multiple pops or are they mostly just one and done?

Never tried Korea p4 p but this was the worst experience in p4 p I ever had. Maybe this is just how it is and I'm just a noob as well.

First I'll explain how the system goes. So I followed the instructions on their website to get to the area. Pretty simple and you can just use a nav app to get there. Ring the doorbell and they open the doors. You take off your shoes and use their slippers. At the front desk the lady offers me one price 260 k won for 60 min 1 girl and an hour wait. I was willing to try the more expensive or 3 p option (good thing I didn't). I take the offer and go into the shower locker room. They give me a key to put in my stuff and clothes. Get naked in front of other dudes like a gym shower room. Dressed in their robe and chilling in their lobby area. Another lady shows up to ask me what I want to do. Club or 1 on 1. I decide on the club thinking it could be interesting and from what I read online it could get crazy.

So now she ask me what type of girl. I wanted a sexy lady with big booty. She writes that down and says it'll be 60 to 90 min wait. They bring me up to a waiting room and I wait for 90 minutes on a futon. So when it was time, I was brought up to an elevator and see the lady. She looks around 40 and has a slim body. Looks around 4-5 and that's with Korea surgery stuff. Main thing is she got no ass. But I suppose I was asking too much. I ain't getting a big booty Korean girl but I was hoping for something more. We get into the club room and We the only one in there. I'm first but it's not a problem. Second guy comes in with his girl. She looks like an 7-8 in looks and body.

She seats me on a chair and unties my robe and starting a nipple licking / sucking for like a few seconds and looks at my dick and immediately puts on a condom for CBJ. I was expecting BBBJ so this kills my mood. Again, I'm a noob at this so I must have skipped the part where it was always CBJ. Next to me was the other guy and could have sworn he got some BBBJ. My girl after a few strokes on CBJ takes off her panties and tries for reverse cowgirl while sitting. My dick is too soft for any penetration so she just brings me into the private room. The other guy is just going to town with some standing doggy. Good for him.

So we in the room chatting a little bit she doesn't understand English and I don't understand Korean. But that's not a big problem. She gives me some green tea and has a smoke break (not a fan of smoking). So we shower and clean up and get ready for soapy nuru on a bed in the shower room. This was weird to me cause I was use to nuru in Japan and Thailand so I kind of know how things work. She starts gelling and begins to slide but tells me not to move at all and keep my hands behind my head. Basically do not touch her. I was already thrown off by so much already LOL. So I follow her orders and she does the catlicking front and back and it was fine for what it was I suppose. Sliding all around but no BJ and any licking around the genital area. But she licks the ass go figure LOL.

We clean off and get to the bed with more talking. By this time I haven't gotten a hard on since I got in the club room. And I'm a guy that gets hard from just the thought of sex usually. Everything was just a huge dick deflater. At this point she tries to get me hard again. I'm closing my eyes and trying to imagine the hottest sex I had before and anything to get hard. She's licking my nipples and HJ and gets it semi hard and immediately slaps on another condom for that "awesome" CBJ. I can't get hard enough but she keeps on trying. As she doing all of this I'm not touching her at all. I'm too scared at this point for trying anything. She gives me a signal finally saying something like I can touch her. So cool, I finally get to touch her LOL. I touch her body and booty then I lightly graze my hand over her pussy and she says "stop". I give up. Like wtf am I suppose to do? She then goes into 69 position giving me that CBJ. What the fuck I'm going to do in a 69 when I can't even touch her lmao. I just lay there like a dead body at this point Wtf I'm doing here. She then tries for cowgirl after all that and my dick is still just semi hard. Cowgirl does not work at this point. She ends up trying to give me and HJ which I let her try. After a few strokes I'm just thinking Wtf am I doing. The HJ not going to make it any better if I finish. So I tell her to stop and I just got all my belongings and left. Huge waste of money. Never doing anything in Korea ever again. Idk how why'all do it.

Has anyone used, or heard anything about, Lux or 699? I found them both online and messaged on Kakao. They responded a few hours later within minutes of each other so I'm thinking they might be the same agency. I'm just curious if they're legit. I've already made plans to see Bella and Christina Andrew (whom I also have concerns about) from MR, but I'm also thinking about setting something up through one or both of these agencies too while I'm on my trip.

[QUOTE=DropNir;2757355]Has anyone used, or heard anything about, Lux or 699? I found them both online and messaged on Kakao. They responded a few hours later within minutes of each other so I'm thinking they might be the same agency. I'm just curious if they're legit. I've already made plans to see Bella and Christina Andrew (whom I also have concerns about) from MR, but I'm also thinking about setting something up through one or both of these agencies too while I'm on my trip.[/QUOTE]I've had "different" agencies send me the same girl on different nights within a short time span. Whatever the structure of the organization or organizations, I think it's safe to say that they are working with the same pool of women. It's always a crap shoot, but in general the girls they used to send were better. I can't remember which ones, but two of them sent me the same very overweight woman. The next time with a different agency I insisted on a slim pretty girl and they delivered. I would be clear in text when setting up about what you want, but there are no guarantees.

Another thing about MR is that some of the ads used to represent real girls (whether they were ever actually independent or not) but have now been taken over by these agencies who just answer your questions and then send one of their girls. You would think that the ad was totally fake, but I've met with girls whose pics were real and then had this happen later.

I've met Bella and Christina. Neither were quite my type but their pictures are mostly accurate, except that Bella has MUCH browner skin than in her touched-up pics. Maybe that's a irrelevant for you but it is worth mentioning.

Anyway, good luck and have fun.

I've been to 3 thai massage places and showed them the internet ad where it says I can get a discount. The staff said that's only if you make a booking by phone. Walkins pay full price. They wouldn't explain why but I think it's because they want to collect your phone number for marketing or to sell. The discount is usually between 20 and 30 k and that's just for the basic massage. Anything extra is negotiated directly in the room and is not affected by any discount. Enforcement of this policy is spotty. One place I went to a few times and paid 35 k for a massage instead of 50 or 60. The most recent time a different man was behind the counter and said no call no discount. When I showed my money and went to leave, he said everywhere is the same so I left.

By the way one place is listed as ddalgi on opgani but the street sign says sukkoi thai I think. It advertises a 60 min massage for 40 k. I was able to go twice without a phone booking but the last few times I went there was a sign on the buzzer that said don't ring the buzzer we're on a break for a while. I think that's to send away walk in customers. Report if you have more luck.

I had been to Castle Anma in 2019, was a good experience. Looking for something different in the trip later this month. I had walked around the YDP RLD last time, but not tried it. Are the RLD girls ok with foreigners? I am from India, and have zero knowledge of Korean. Have dealt with girls using Google translate in other places, not sure if that works here. I was planning to just keep a couple of images with the time and money. Any other communication needed?

Have also pinged a couple of MR girls, and got responses. The pink lady listing in MR which is a consortium, and 2 independent girls who seem to be friends all responded promptly. But none of them have reviews, so a bit worried about how the service will be.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2757729]Have also pinged a couple of MR girls, and got responses. The pink lady listing in MR which is a consortium, and 2 independent girls who seem to be friends all responded promptly. But none of them have reviews, so a bit worried about how the service will be.[/QUOTE]Which 2 independent MR providers did you contact? I'm also suspicious when I see no reviews, 2 providers or more using email address, claiming to come from a country that seems unlikely and etc.

Nami and Kitty, both have pics on their profile with each other.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2757736]Which 2 independent MR providers did you contact? I'm also suspicious when I see no reviews, 2 providers or more using email address, claiming to come from a country that seems unlikely and etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2757788]Nami and Kitty, both have pics on their profile with each other.[/QUOTE]I've met with Nami; she's real and pics are accurate. I think it's safe to say Kitty is as well if they're in photos together. There was another Thai girl who used basically the same ad as Kitty and sent a copy paste of the same info in chat. I think there's a system in place and maybe more Thai girls will be on MR that way listed as "independents. " I'm a little surprised Nami is associated with them because she didn't send that copy paste message. I think she's more educated and her English is better.

Avoid the "Pink" listing. It's the "Independent Escort Group" run by "Mikaela" which in my experience has been the worst in messaging with fake pics to choose from and then sending very unattractive women who don't remotely resemble what was sent in chat. But it could be luck of the draw and they'll have better options to send on the night you choose. Just take my advice for what it's worth.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2757857]I've met with Nami; she's real and pics are accurate. I think it's safe to say Kitty is as well if they're in photos together. There was another Thai girl who used basically the same ad as Kitty and sent a copy paste of the same info in chat. I think there's a system in place and maybe more Thai girls will be on MR that way listed as "independents. " I'm a little surprised Nami is associated with them because she didn't send that copy paste message. I think she's more educated and her English is better.

Avoid the "Pink" listing. It's the "Independent Escort Group" run by "Mikaela" which in my experience has been the worst in messaging with fake pics to choose from and then sending very unattractive women who don't remotely resemble what was sent in chat. But it could be luck of the draw and they'll have better options to send on the night you choose. Just take my advice for what it's worth.[/QUOTE]I qualify to comment on this one as I've got experiences with Nami, kitty and that Independent group or whatever. Firstly, Nami is damn hot, I mean with just the curves I saw when she entered my room, I straight out got hard LOL. She's the most slim waist-lined curvy girl I've met. She took me to the bathroom and bathed me making my man even harder. I remember paying 2 shots for 300 K but I was only able to go through with one. Overall I thought she's real and friendly. Pictures were accurate, conversation was great and she was open with most of what I tried including DATY but downside was she probably doesn't want your damn fingers in her pussy. So fingering was off-limits.

Then once messaged kitty as well (cz her incall rate was 100 K cheaper) before I even knew she's frds with Nami and I didn't find anything suspicious through messages, tho I didn't go through with the appointment. So I can't comment more on her.

Lastly, avoid that Independent escort group. I once booked them last minute as the girl I had booked through outcall anma on opgani didn't want to meet foreigners. Their leader Mikaela or something asked proof picture of hotel key and money, 280 K. She sent an attractive picture of an escort, big booty Korean girl (without face) And when she arrived, she was some damn smelly Korean, I couldn't figure out what kind of smell was that. She was young tho, 24 and face was average at best. I speak Korean but I even felt the conversation with her was kind of weird wc made me believe she was not like the normal Korean girls you meet elsewhere. Well, I had paid her already and I figured out the smell when trying to kiss her and I had no choice but to close my eyes, pound her doggy and finish as soon as possible. But unlike most Korean girls who complain about big, big. She actually wanted it deeper and kept praising how deep she feels it. At least I can give her that LOL. But that's it, I never contacted them again.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2757857]I've met with Nami; she's real and pics are accurate. I think it's safe to say Kitty is as well if they're in photos together. There was another Thai girl who used basically the same ad as Kitty and sent a copy paste of the same info in chat. I think there's a system in place and maybe more Thai girls will be on MR that way listed as "independents. " I'm a little surprised Nami is associated with them because she didn't send that copy paste message. I think she's more educated and her English is better.
[/QUOTE]How was your time with Nami? Did her body seem natural? And does she receive incall?

Thanks for the inputs!! Better to avoid Pink then.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2757857]I've met with Nami; she's real and pics are accurate. I think it's safe to say Kitty is as well if they're in photos together. There was another Thai girl who used basically the same ad as Kitty and sent a copy paste of the same info in chat. I think there's a system in place and maybe more Thai girls will be on MR that way listed as "independents. " I'm a little surprised Nami is associated with them because she didn't send that copy paste message. I think she's more educated and her English is better.

Avoid the "Pink" listing. It's the "Independent Escort Group" run by "Mikaela" which in my experience has been the worst in messaging with fake pics to choose from and then sending very unattractive women who don't remotely resemble what was sent in chat. But it could be luck of the draw and they'll have better options to send on the night you choose. Just take my advice for what it's worth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2757968]How was your time with Nami? Did her body seem natural? And does she receive incall?[/QUOTE]I think she does do incall, but when I met her she couldn't for some reason and I got a motel. My time with her was really good, nice conversation afterwards and no clock watching. Not sure if her breasts are natural or not, if that's what you're asking. Cheers.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2757702]I've had "different" agencies send me the same girl on different nights within a short time span. Whatever the structure of the organization or organizations, I think it's safe to say that they are working with the same pool of women. It's always a crap shoot, but in general the girls they used to send were better. I can't remember which ones, but two of them sent me the same very overweight woman. The next time with a different agency I insisted on a slim pretty girl and they delivered. I would be clear in text when setting up about what you want, but there are no guarantees.

Another thing about MR is that some of the ads used to represent real girls (whether they were ever actually independent or not) but have now been taken over by these agencies who just answer your questions and then send one of their girls. You would think that the ad was totally fake, but I've met with girls whose pics were real and then had this happen later..[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for your reply, I really appreciate it. Sounds like I'll stay away from Lux and 699 and just stick with Bella and Christina. I was just a little worried about Christina because she only had one review and it was lackluster. I'm more comfortable meeting her knowing you've seen her though.

TL; DR: Went to a 1 lady shop. The lady was older and not particularly attractive. Coughed up 110,000 won. Got a great sensual massage with an excellent HJ. Even though the experience was great, I won't repeat because I prefer youth, beauty, and full service.

Finally checked out a 1 lady shop or 1 인 샵. Such shops are listed under the Gunma section of Opgani and like a Gunma they offer sexual massage with the emphasis on massage.

I have visited Gunma before so I know the routine, but I wanted to give a 1 lady shop a try and see how it might differ. Just by looking at the ads, it isn't easy to determine which services are offered because the ads aren't as explicit as Hyugetel ads. Also, I don't quite understand the meaning of the different types of service that are often advertised (Hard, Missy, and Swedish to name but a few). If you know what these services are, please let me know.

My recent experience at a 1 lady shop in Gangnam is as follows (if you want to find the ad, I booked an appointment with the only lady in Gangnam advertising F cups):

I called the number, booked a time, showed up at an officetel, and called upon arrival to receive the room number. I walked in the room, and, as expected, the provider was an older Korean MILF, undoubtedly in her mid to late 40's. She may be too old for many of you reading this; Hell, she was probably too old for me, but I was already fully committed.

After some small talk (in Korean), I got undressed and took a shower. When I came out she was wearing only a thong and had started playing a soothing, new age soundtrack on the stereo. She then had me lay down face first on the bed and proceeded to give me a very gentle and sensual massage. For the most part she glided her hands up and down my back switching between the soft pressure of her fingertips and the exciting touch of her fingernails. She also interspersed this with kisses on my neck and back. On the whole, the experience was soothing but was also stimulating.

Next, she gently moved her hands down my ass, between the cheeks, and over my balls. This motion went on for a while and had the intended effect of getting me quite hard. Then it was time to AMP things up and so she kissed my ass and balls and started some light rimming. And then she really went to work and started sucking me off. However, she was suckling me off while I lay face down on the bed. It was a novel experience and although she was only able to suck on the underside of my tip, it felt great.

After a few minutes, she had me flip over and gave me a BJ plus slow sensual tit job. Eventually, she took off her thong and we moved to 69 where we remained for quite a long time. I should note that she wasn't actively trying to get me to cum, but was instead trying to keep me hard, horny, and happy for the entirety of the experience. It wasn't until the very end that she sat up, made eye contact, starting moaning, and gave me a handjob finish.

In conclusion, no kissing and no sex were on offer, but she had a great attitude and provided good service. It's the sort of experience that only works if you're able to give yourself up to it. If you like to be in control, it isn't for you. Even though she wasn't particularly attractive nor youthful, she was extremely sensual and well-practiced, and I left feeling calm, clean, and comfortable.

The 60 minute experience cost 110,000 won. Will I repeat? Probably not. The experience was fantastic, but as I still prefer beauty, youth, DFK, and bbfscip, I'll probably spend most of my time at hyugetels.

Hey ya'll. It's been like 3 years since I was last in South Korea. Wondering if places like Belle Massage or Cool Massage are still around? I can't for the life of me remember this one place in Gangnam that took foreigners but it was around Gangnam and you had options. It was in a basement of a car park.

The base course was a young woman washes your junk, sucks you off and then an older less attractive lady comes and gives you a decent massage. A more expensive one has a lady come, blow you, then you get a solid massage and another lady comes and blows you again.

I'll be in Seoul for a bit and I'm looking for some fun. I speak horrible Korean but I look Korean if that's any consolation. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2759671]TL; DR: Went to a 1 lady shop. The lady was older and not particularly attractive. Coughed up 110,000 won. Got a great sensual massage with an excellent HJ. Even though the experience was great, I won't repeat because I prefer youth, beauty, and full service.

Finally checked out a 1 lady shop or 1 인 샵. Such shops are listed under the Gunma section of Opgani and like a Gunma they offer sexual massage with the emphasis on massage.

I have visited Gunma before so I know the routine, but I wanted to give a 1 lady shop a try and see how it might differ. Just by looking at the ads, it isn't easy to determine which services are offered because the ads aren't as explicit as Hyugetel ads. Also, I don't quite understand the meaning of the different types of service that are often advertised (Hard, Missy, and Swedish to name but a few). If you know what these services are, please let me know.

My recent experience at a 1 lady shop in Gangnam is as follows (if you want to find the ad, I booked an appointment with the only lady in Gangnam advertising F cups):

I called the number, booked a time, showed up at an officetel, and called upon arrival to receive the room number. I walked in the room, and, as expected, the provider was an older Korean MILF, undoubtedly in her mid to late 40's. She may be too old for many of you reading this; Hell, she was probably too old for me, but I was already fully committed.

After some small talk (in Korean), I got undressed and took a shower. When I came out she was wearing only a thong and had started playing a soothing, new age soundtrack on the stereo. She then had me lay down face first on the bed and proceeded to give me a very gentle and sensual massage. For the most part she glided her hands up and down my back switching between the soft pressure of her fingertips and the exciting touch of her fingernails. She also interspersed this with kisses on my neck and back. On the whole, the experience was soothing but was also stimulating.

Next, she gently moved her hands down my ass, between the cheeks, and over my balls. This motion went on for a while and had the intended effect of getting me quite hard. Then it was time to AMP things up and so she kissed my ass and balls and started some light rimming. And then she really went to work and started sucking me off. However, she was suckling me off while I lay face down on the bed. It was a novel experience and although she was only able to suck on the underside of my tip, it felt great.

After a few minutes, she had me flip over and gave me a BJ plus slow sensual tit job. Eventually, she took off her thong and we moved to 69 where we remained for quite a long time. I should note that she wasn't actively trying to get me to cum, but was instead trying to keep me hard, horny, and happy for the entirety of the experience. It wasn't until the very end that she sat up, made eye contact, starting moaning, and gave me a handjob finish.

In conclusion, no kissing and no sex were on offer, but she had a great attitude and provided good service. It's the sort of experience that only works if you're able to give yourself up to it. If you like to be in control, it isn't for you. Even though she wasn't particularly attractive nor youthful, she was extremely sensual and well-practiced, and I left feeling calm, clean, and comfortable.

The 60 minute experience cost 110,000 won. Will I repeat? Probably not. The experience was fantastic, but as I still prefer beauty, youth, DFK, and bbfscip, I'll probably spend most of my time at hyugetels.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this review, I've never tried the 1 lady shops as they're so ambiguous as to what's offered I didn't want to waste my time. I don't spend hardly any time in gangnam but this might be worth a trip.

As far as the services, I believe Swedish is supposed to be a more sensual fingertip style massage, Missy is sort of like a light dominatrix vibe and Hard is maybe a bit more porn star-like? I personally feel like these buzzword services are all the same, but I believe that's the general feeling of what they're supposed to offer.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2759671]TL; DR: Went to a 1 lady shop. The lady was older and not particularly attractive. Coughed up 110,000 won. Got a great sensual massage with an excellent HJ. Even though the experience was great, I won't repeat because I prefer youth, beauty, and full service.

Finally checked out a 1 lady shop or 1 인 샵. Such shops are listed under the Gunma section of Opgani and like a Gunma they offer sexual massage with the emphasis on massage.
[/QUOTE]Is this an option for Foreigners? I have heard that some places do not allow foreigners. If we get over the first hurdle of conversing in Korean.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2759804]Hey ya'll. It's been like 3 years since I was last in South Korea. Wondering if places like Belle Massage or Cool Massage are still around? I can't for the life of me remember this one place in Gangnam that took foreigners but it was around Gangnam and you had options. It was in a basement of a car park.

The base course was a young woman washes your junk, sucks you off and then an older less attractive lady comes and gives you a decent massage. A more expensive one has a lady come, blow you, then you get a solid massage and another lady comes and blows you again.

I'll be in Seoul for a bit and I'm looking for some fun. I speak horrible Korean but I look Korean if that's any consolation. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty new here, but I can't say I've encountered that place? Sounds amazing though, LOL.

I'm down to link up if you find out, in that area I've mostly stuck to Anmas.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2759843]Thanks for this review, I've never tried the 1 lady shops as they're so ambiguous as to what's offered I didn't want to waste my time. I don't spend hardly any time in gangnam but this might be worth a trip.

As far as the services, I believe Swedish is supposed to be a more sensual fingertip style massage, Missy is sort of like a light dominatrix vibe and Hard is maybe a bit more porn star-like? I personally feel like these buzzword services are all the same, but I believe that's the general feeling of what they're supposed to offer.[/QUOTE]Peanuts, thanks for the massage service breakdown. You're right that these "buzzwords" don't seem to have a great deal of meaning. The place I visited advertised a hard concept massage, but It seems like I got a Swedish massage instead. Who knows, right?

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2759855]Is this an option for Foreigners? I have heard that some places do not allow foreigners. If we get over the first hurdle of conversing in Korean.[/QUOTE]Mickeyduck, you heard right; most places bar foreigners.

The place I wrote about is open to foreigners, but as with all online advertised services, clients must send a photo of their ID as part of the standard vetting process. As far as I know, they specifically want a Korean government issued ID. For foreigners with residence in Korea, this means sending a photo of one's alien registration card (ARC). They may accept other forms of ID, but I can't definitively say whether they will or won't. Maybe someone with experience can chime in. Has anyone sent a photo of their passport or other form of ID?

For vetting, I have also been asked to send business cards and was once asked to send a screenshot of my workplace's Kakao chatroom. I don't know why, but I felt like these requests were too intrusive and so I declined to proceed further with those particular shops.

[QUOTE=Nemo798;2759804]Hey ya'll. It's been like 3 years since I was last in South Korea. Wondering if places like Belle Massage or Cool Massage are still around? I can't for the life of me remember this one place in Gangnam that took foreigners but it was around Gangnam and you had options. It was in a basement of a car park.

The base course was a young woman washes your junk, sucks you off and then an older less attractive lady comes and gives you a decent massage. A more expensive one has a lady come, blow you, then you get a solid massage and another lady comes and blows you again.

I'll be in Seoul for a bit and I'm looking for some fun. I speak horrible Korean but I look Korean if that's any consolation. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure Cool is not around anymore. Belle could be, but its been about 3 years also since I've been there and wouldn't recommend even if it was. Those places that were around a few years ago that were very open to foreigners (cool, belle, jinju spa etc) all under delivered and were overpriced in my opinion, especially once you're able to access the more local places.

Thanks for the info shared. Sure sounds like a lot of work given my short trip.

Will probably stick to Castle Anma or try one of the MR girls.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2760117]Mickeyduck, you heard right; most places bar foreigners.

The place I wrote about is open to foreigners, but as with all online advertised services, clients must send a photo of their ID as part of the standard vetting process. As far as I know, they specifically want a Korean government issued ID. For foreigners with residence in Korea, this means sending a photo of one's alien registration card (ARC). They may accept other forms of ID, but I can't definitively say whether they will or won't. Maybe someone with experience can chime in. Has anyone sent a photo of their passport or other form of ID?

For vetting, I have also been asked to send business cards and was once asked to send a screenshot of my workplace's Kakao chatroom. I don't know why, but I felt like these requests were too intrusive and so I declined to proceed further with those particular shops.[/QUOTE]

If you actually don't mind MR, I can recommed Jinjoo (the one using the horrendous warped photos with strawberries covering up the naughty bits).

She's hot (much better than those terrible pictures would have you believe), has her shit together, shows up on time, is enthusiastic, and is willing to do all kinds of things.

Just a few minor things, some mentioned in the reviews on that site, to take note of: (1) she has a tendency to try to leave early if you're already finished and just lying around not doing much; I think in those cases she'll stick around if you're firm with her but I haven't cared enough to try (2) there's something about her features that makes her look a bit older than she actually is (the age listed on her profile is within three years). Still hot though (3) she's really bad at cowgirl. Just kinda wiggles around awkwardly (I heard from somewhere, maybe even here, that this is a not uncommon East Asian thing), so I'd just skip that.

Cool is definitely closed. It closed years ago. Belle stayed open a little longer but totally change their operations. Originally they were a good massage shop with BJ included for like 90 k. Girl took everything but panties off. They later remodeled and changed it to giving a more legit massage but the girl keeps everything on and just a HJ. Price practically doubled. Not worth it. I haven't gone back since they changed and this was probably 5 years ago. Cool was already closed even then.

[QUOTE=Peanuts7;2760173]Pretty sure Cool is not around anymore. Belle could be, but its been about 3 years also since I've been there and wouldn't recommend even if it was. Those places that were around a few years ago that were very open to foreigners (cool, belle, jinju spa etc) all under delivered and were overpriced in my opinion, especially once you're able to access the more local places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2760685]Cool is definitely closed. It closed years ago. Belle stayed open a little longer but totally change their operations. Originally they were a good massage shop with BJ included for like 90 k. Girl took everything but panties off. They later remodeled and changed it to giving a more legit massage but the girl keeps everything on and just a HJ. Price practically doubled. Not worth it. I haven't gone back since they changed and this was probably 5 years ago. Cool was already closed even then.[/QUOTE]So are have there been any replacements similar that would take a foreigner? I'm headed to Seoul real soon and would enjoy some fun during my week there. Obviously Seoul being more expensive than places like Singapore and Taipei but looking around 150 USD an hour or so for some action. Recommendations welcome!

Quickish field report.

Fairly easy to find. Exit Seoulung MRT at exit 4. Walk forward along the street past one junction and then at the second junction, turn left at the lotto store. It's a uphill road and Lyra is only about 20 metres on the right hand side. The building does resemble a castle.

Based on my experience it's Caucasian friendly, but they definitely put a hefty foreigner tax on top. I was quoted 400 for an hour standard service. After much bargaining I negotiated it down to 350 k which is probably at least 150 k higher than a local would pay. Normally I would pass but as I wanted to check out an anma and as South Korea completes my Asia panini sticker bonk book (well except for the North Korea and Brunei unicorn cards) I threw qpr out of the window and agreed.

I defiantly didn't get the same experience as locals. I was asked to wait in ground floor ante room where locals walked in and past into what looked like a shower area. I waited about 20 minutes and saw guys wander in and then our in shower robes. After 20 minutes the guy who first told me the pricing stricture came back and beckoned me to go directly upstairs to the rooms.

Was greeted by a nice friendly chubby early thirties woman. At best a 5/10 but probably 6 if you like a bit of flesh on the bone. The procedure is clothes off on the bed in the wet area where I got got showered on a bed with a couple of minutes Nuru massage on both face down and up. Cat bath up and down, quickish uncovered BJ and then up and out of the wet room to get dried off for the main event.

With the limited communication, friendly but mechanical massage and the fact she really wasn't my type I felt it was going to be a struggle as I wasn't feeling very much at all. But to be fair what she lacked in aesthetics she made up in performance. Her oral skills were impressive and she gave a rimming masterclass. 5 minutes of teasing alternating in really getting err stuck in. Down, down deeper and down. Getting the cap on was a struggle as it felt like trying to shrink rap a sausage. The condom was so tight to be uncomfortable. Mish and a few positions before finishing just before the hours up phone call.

So in summary great to have tried an anma, but at least for a Caucasian foreigner, unless you're box ticking like me, I wouldn't recommend. However for the ISG bros of Asian descent particularly those that can speak Korean YMMV.

Cheers.

Norman.

I am going to stay in a hotel walking distance from YDP RLD in early Dec.

Wanted to get any input from foreigners (zero knowledge of Korean) that visited here successfully.

Sadly The Hill in Itaewon is not what it used to be. I've been there a few times the last weeks and not more than 3-4 places are open, not much to choose from. I fucked Bean with the big butt on the top of the hill, she has a fun body but a terrible personality and a clock watcher. Then I tried Minhee (I think that's her name) at Nymph, and she is awesome gave me a great GFE. Probably the best one over there right now. Cherry with the big tits wanted more than 200 000 so I passed, I've fucked her many times before and never paid more than 100 000. Don't know why she raised the price so much now.

[QUOTE=LeLion;2763642]Sadly The Hill in Itaewon is not what it used to be. I've been there a few times the last weeks and not more than 3-4 places are open, not much to choose from. I fucked Bean with the big butt on the top of the hill, she has a fun body but a terrible personality and a clock watcher. Then I tried Minhee (I think that's her name) at Nymph, and she is awesome gave me a great GFE. Probably the best one over there right now. Cherry with the big tits wanted more than 200 000 so I passed, I've fucked her many times before and never paid more than 100 000. Don't know why she raised the price so much now.[/QUOTE]I've been with Bean several times this year as I thought she's the only kinda hot one remained. Even though personally I didn't find her personality as bad, just not GFE. I agree on the fact of her being a time watcher. It's the same at every RLD most times.

Could you say that Minhee is in the same age bracket (young) as Bean? Where's that Nymph bar located on the hill? So may be next time I can check her out and compare!

[QUOTE=LeLion;2763642]Sadly The Hill in Itaewon is not what it used to be. I've been there a few times the last weeks and not more than 3-4 places are open, not much to choose from. I fucked Bean with the big butt on the top of the hill, she has a fun body but a terrible personality and a clock watcher. Then I tried Minhee (I think that's her name) at Nymph, and she is awesome gave me a great GFE. Probably the best one over there right now. Cherry with the big tits wanted more than 200 000 so I passed, I've fucked her many times before and never paid more than 100 000. Don't know why she raised the price so much now.[/QUOTE]Kay works with Bean, is she still around? I'll be there in about a week and hope to meet up with all of them.

I am a newbie here. What is MR? How can I get it?

[QUOTE=Wikileaks;2764011]I am a newbie here. What is MR? How can I get it?[/QUOTE]MR is massagerepublic. You can access it with vpn or at mr3. Pw.

Beware there's a lot of secret post ops and scammy agencies etc.

It is massagerepublic. Just register, it is a free website to see call girls listings.

[QUOTE=Wikileaks;2764011]I am a newbie here. What is MR? How can I get it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2763455]I am going to stay in a hotel walking distance from YDP RLD in early Dec.

Wanted to get any input from foreigners (zero knowledge of Korean) that visited here successfully.[/QUOTE]Yes go! There shouldn't be any problems all you got to do is try to pick the hottest girl there.

It opens at 8. The few times was there recently, only a few houses were operating. At the start of the pandemic they were at full capacity with hot young girls. Most, like 90%, would wave to come. They were cycled out for a few model type milfs. But seems there all gone too. Now there's only 3 girls to recommend, that'll probably be around.

There's a gyaru type girl a few houses in on the right. Fake bolt on tits, but nice waist, hips, and decent ass. Didn't have the best attitude, so it was a pass but she accepts foreigners. The other two work in the same house. Both pretty cool. Could do them together. They're tall with pale skin. The taller one, almost 180 cm, has big naturals but is thin, good hips but not a big ass. She always wears a grey skirt and non revealing black top. The other one has a great ass and hips but bolt on tits. Wears either jeans and bikini top or white tight mini dress. She hasn't been there last time, but would recommend her because her attitude is a bit wilder. Will ride you and take it all, make you grab her and not a clock watcher. The other girls in that area are probably going to be mechanical and most of the time can't take a big one. There's more that will offer but they weren't attractive.

Thanks for the info, really appreciated.

What is the going rate here now? RTTF, I had seen 50-100 K won for 20-30 minute sessions mentioned from a while back.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2764331]It opens at 8. The few times was there recently, only a few houses were operating. At the start of the pandemic they were at full capacity with hot young girls. Most, like 90%, would wave to come. They were cycled out for a few model type milfs. But seems there all gone too. Now there's only 3 girls to recommend, that'll probably be around.

There's a gyaru type girl a few houses in on the right. Fake bolt on tits, but nice waist, hips, and decent ass. Didn't have the best attitude, so it was a pass but she accepts foreigners. The other two work in the same house. Both pretty cool. Could do them together. They're tall with pale skin. The taller one, almost 180 cm, has big naturals but is thin, good hips but not a big ass. She always wears a grey skirt and non revealing black top. The other one has a great ass and hips but bolt on tits. Wears either jeans and bikini top or white tight mini dress. She hasn't been there last time, but would recommend her because her attitude is a bit wilder. Will ride you and take it all, make you grab her and not a clock watcher. The other girls in that area are probably going to be mechanical and most of the time can't take a big one. There's more that will offer but they weren't attractive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2764143]Yes go! There shouldn't be any problems all you got to do is try to pick the hottest girl there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2764331]It opens at 8. The few times was there recently, only a few houses were operating. At the start of the pandemic they were at full capacity with hot young girls. Most, like 90%, would wave to come. They were cycled out for a few model type milfs. But seems there all gone too. Now there's only 3 girls to recommend, that'll probably be around.

There's a gyaru type girl a few houses in on the right. Fake bolt on tits, but nice waist, hips, and decent ass. Didn't have the best attitude, so it was a pass but she accepts foreigners. The other two work in the same house. Both pretty cool. Could do them together. They're tall with pale skin. The taller one, almost 180 cm, has big naturals but is thin, good hips but not a big ass. She always wears a grey skirt and non revealing black top. The other one has a great ass and hips but bolt on tits. Wears either jeans and bikini top or white tight mini dress. She hasn't been there last time, but would recommend her because her attitude is a bit wilder. Will ride you and take it all, make you grab her and not a clock watcher. The other girls in that area are probably going to be mechanical and most of the time can't take a big one. There's more that will offer but they weren't attractive.[/QUOTE]Open at 8, what time they close?

[QUOTE=Charles96;2763758]I've been with Bean several times this year as I thought she's the only kinda hot one remained. Even though personally I didn't find her personality as bad, just not GFE. I agree on the fact of her being a time watcher. It's the same at every RLD most times.

Could you say that Minhee is in the same age bracket (young) as Bean? Where's that Nymph bar located on the hill? So may be next time I can check her out and compare![/QUOTE]Nymph is on the big road, not the hill proper. I'd say she is in her thirties, nice body pretty slim and firm. Not 100% sure about her name though.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2763903]Kay works with Bean, is she still around? I'll be there in about a week and hope to meet up with all of them.[/QUOTE]I didn't see Kay when I was there. Let us know when you go, it would be nice to know who is still around there except those I have seen recently.

How friendly is the sex scene for foreigners?

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2764421]Thanks for the info, really appreciated.

What is the going rate here now? RTTF, I had seen 50-100 K won for 20-30 minute sessions mentioned from a while back.[/QUOTE]100 k for 15-20 min. Is standard. The next street and alleys in between have a few women even in the day, but they're well below average in looks. Only they would charge less.

Pre Covid when I was there, I had wandered around up to 2 am and it was open. The restaurants around also mentioned 2-3 am was ok to be there.

BTW, there is a Indian / Nepal restaurant between the RLD lanes and YDP station. On the main street, 1st floor. Really good food. And I know Indian food. Hope it did not close due to Covid, and I get to pay a visit there again on this trip.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2764426]Open at 8, what time they close?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2764571]Pre Covid when I was there, I had wandered around up to 2 am and it was open. The restaurants around also mentioned 2-3 am was ok to be there.

BTW, there is a Indian / Nepal restaurant between the RLD lanes and YDP station. On the main street, 1st floor. Really good food. And I know Indian food. Hope it did not close due to Covid, and I get to pay a visit there again on this trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks let us know how this trip in YDP went.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2764538]100 k for 15-20 min. Is standard. The next street and alleys in between have a few women even in the day, but they're well below average in looks. Only they would charge less.[/QUOTE]By the way do you have any updates for Miari lately?

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2757709]I've been to 3 Thai massage places and showed them the internet ad where it says I can get a discount. The staff said that's only if you make a booking by phone. Walkins pay full price. They wouldn't explain why but I think it's because they want to collect your phone number for marketing or to sell. The discount is usually between 20 and 30 k and that's just for the basic massage. Anything extra is negotiated directly in the room and is not affected by any discount. Enforcement of this policy is spotty. One place I went to a few times and paid 35 k for a massage instead of 50 or 60. The most recent time a different man was behind the counter and said no call no discount. When I showed my money and went to leave, he said everywhere is the same so I left.

By the way one place is listed as ddalgi on opgani but the street sign says sukkoi Thai I think. It advertises a 60 min massage for 40 k. I was able to go twice without a phone booking but the last few times I went there was a sign on the buzzer that said don't ring the buzzer we're on a break for a while. I think that's to send away walk in customers. Report if you have more luck.[/QUOTE]Any steer on which of these places had the best girls? Also was reading old reports on Jinju; Belle; and Cool which all seem to be either closed or no good anymore. Any tips on best places for massage with he? (Could be FS or HJ or in between).

Been way too long but I'm back!

Have not been mongering much in anmas but GAIN (seems to be closed)

My quick MR writeup as an update:

- Elle you can two shot in the hour for 300,000 incall, her location moves according to her hotel and I think she is independent. Verified over video call too.

- Elena I have not been with but she has great reviews even though the photos she has online is some european model LOL. I know some of you guys here have tried but she's not the same person so maybe she's just similar? I guess still hot but just using fake photos for privacy. Was a ***** to communicate after I told her that her photos were fake haha.

- Nami / Kitty seems to be friends and it seems that they are both legit. Kitty just 50 cheaper. Not sure on service but have not tried.

- Valentina is at a officetel in gangnam area. Awesome sex, 300,000 incall and +100,000 for another shot.

- "Last 4 days" is a fake profile with fake photos.

I am trying to see Cecilia very soon! Will post updates.

Has anyone seen punpun or Diana on MR? Trying to see them as well .

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2764702]Thanks let us know how this trip in YDP went.[/QUOTE]I walked through YDP on Thursday night at midnight. Exactly one girl took me and a dozen others rejected me. Some hot ones would wave me over because they didn't realize I was a foreigner due to the mask and being bundled up. When I got closer, they realized who I was, smiled and politely declined, so I smiled back and said 'ok'.

I ended up not partaking at all because I was drunk and curious about the scene. The one who was willing to take me was the first one on the right walking in, was pretty nice looking, and quoted 90,000 won. At the end of the strip around the corner there was a pretty ugly one who was selling hard, but it was a hard no.

[QUOTE=LeLion;2764506]I didn't see Kay when I was there. Let us know when you go, it would be nice to know who is still around there except those I have seen recently.[/QUOTE]I've wrote about it before, the same still applies. The hill is declining and slowing being razed, so it's unknown how long it will remain. The old Hilltop Hotel and adjacent buildings are now gone, completely razed, as well as the sauna that was directly behind it. The Hotel Itaewon is boarded up and for sale, a waste of several good clubs that it took the place of.

There are a total of eight clubs operating. Four up the hill from the Grand Ole Opry- the old Laura club, one adjacent to old Laura, a new Evergreen (where Bean now works), and Lily. On the main street, Tiffany, Texas, Pandora, and Nymph are open.

Bean looks better than the last time I saw her in April. She still has the main attraction, but her hair is a bit longer and she seems to have lost a little weight, so she looked good. On the main strip at Pandora, Nana was working and she also looked nice. At Texas is the one girl who worked at the old Moonshine (with straight cut bangs in the front and long straight black hair. She has a cute face, a sexy slim body, and fun personality.

The going rate was between 100 K to 150 K for FS (they'll start high then go down). In the end, the Hill does remain and there are some nice ones to spend time with, but the times are stressful since Itaewon activity has significantly declined. Old timers could do them a solid by dropping by to say 'Hi' and spend a few bucks, sure they'd appreciate it.

Checked out a random spinning pole massage in Yongsan, a block or so away from the electronics market on the corner, 2nd floor. Was quoted 110, but not for fs, which is a bit odd for that type of place at that price. Said why not and went for it, she promised itd be fun. She was on the older side but had a decent body and fun attitude. Gave me a laughable excuse of a massage for about 10 minutes then left the room. I could hear her in the other room washing up and getting ready and she let out a huge fart. She comes back in with no bottoms and her tits out and starts with a kind of catbath / licking / rimming situation. Sucks on it for a few seconds and moves on to just an HJ. Overall, not worth it and not what I'm looking for in that sort of establishment because I enjoy a massage, but I guess a fun change of pace and at least my curiosity of that place has been filled.

A lot of the senior members here seem to have regular spots they frequent, but wondering if that ever worries you? I usually hop around from place to place but lately have been sticking to 1 or 2 spots that I like. However, I'm pretty recognizable and they for sure know me now, which sort of makes me uneasy. On one hand its led to a better experience and less nights like the one above, but on the other I get a little worried about discretion too. What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2767904]I walked through YDP on Thursday night at midnight. Exactly one girl took me and a dozen others rejected me. Some hot ones would wave me over because they didn't realize I was a foreigner due to the mask and being bundled up. When I got closer, they realized who I was, smiled and politely declined, so I smiled back and said 'ok'.

I ended up not partaking at all because I was drunk and curious about the scene. The one who was willing to take me was the first one on the right walking in, was pretty nice looking, and quoted 90,000 won. At the end of the strip around the corner there was a pretty ugly one who was selling hard, but it was a hard no.[/QUOTE]70 $ For FS not bad bro should've taken it, I'm going to try and get the hottest girl I see for a session, I think I can pass for a Korean guy how about you?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2768033]70 $ For FS not bad bro should've taken it, I'm going to try and get the hottest girl I see for a session, I think I can pass for a Korean guy how about you?[/QUOTE]I could've taken it, but I'd already busted earlier and I was fairly lit. I'm a white guy, so no passing for Korean. I was so bundled up from the cold that they didn't realize who I was until I got up to the window.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2753625]Do you still have the information for this service? I also assume you're a foreigner based on your previous email posts?[/QUOTE]What exact information are you looking for? This was through the OP site listings, the agency person is a bit of a character. 2 other agencies never replied once they understood I'm a foreigner, but this one didn't mind. So this agency person is the one handling the setup and new girls come every now and then. I don't think I can post that info here and also don't want to have everyone ping the same person. Reading by older posts here it's the fastest way to get foreigners banned.

I text them over Telegram, a lot of them list telegram IDs on the OP site.

Since I last posted, three of my favorite Hyugetels closed. I'm no longer surprised by how frequently these places open and close anymore, but I was particularly disappointed because two of the three were less than a five minute walk from my office which made them particularly great for lunch time romps.

Having said that, I recently found a free afternoon to go to a Hyugetel in Jamsil that remains open. I've had enough good encounters there over the last year that I keep going back, and on my most recent visit I had a wild time where I got a new sexual experience and gained a heap of insight.

The women started off well by giving me a body to body scrub in the shower. After rinsing me off she then squatted down and gave me head before helping me dry off. Things then got wilder when we moved to the bed and she pulled out a pair of vibrators. She used one on me while she used the other on herself. FYI, she didn't put it in my butt, but instead roamed it up and down my body and settled it on my balls and taint. From what I understand, the use of a vibrator or dildo usually requires paying an extra fee, but as I didn't request it, she didn't charge me. As far as I could tell, it was just something she wanted to do.

The vibrator felt. Good, but to be honest it was kind of distracting. The constant buzz was annoying and I don't really need extra stimulation when I'm balls deep in a beautiful woman.

However, I let her continue because she seemed excited, and I didn't want to ruin the mood. In particular, it was clear that she was happy to be with customer who wasn't Korean, and I think she may have been just trying to make the most of the experience. At the end of the day, however, I think I let her down by not living up to her expectations.

At one point she made it clear that she wanted a forceful pounding, but I wasn't in the mood to exert myself that much. While fucking her, she even said to me "You can hurt me," which my brain only half recognized and which I didn't seek to clarify. It even crossed my mind that she may have said "You can't hurt me," I. E. Pound me with abandon. Honestly, either way I didn't find this comment particularly sexy, and trying to parse the implications of what she had said--or whether she had said it at all--took me out of the moment and forced me to start over again.

When the deed was done, the women was incredibly talkative. She told me much about her life, and I rather enjoyed hearing stories about her work in Korea as it gave me a good understanding of what her world is like. Among the notable stories she told, one was about a Korean guy taking drugs (pills and meth) in the room and trying to get her to partake. She also told me that some young guys simply cannot cum without using their own hand. She talked so much that we went overtime.

Because she wasn't busy that day, she was content to let me remain as long as I wanted (frankly, I think she was lonely and wanted some companionship). The only reason I eventually left was because her boss opened the door, freaked out, turned around and left. After that I knew it was time to leave, and as I left, the boss called me and told me never to stay overtime again. He promised to blacklist me if it happened again.

From the vibrators to the extended stay and the threat from the boss, it added up to one wild experience. There is so much to share that I've abbreviated the rest below by writing in point form some of the notable things the woman told me. The opinions below wholly belong to her and do not reflect my views. I only wrote them down here, because so few women have been this honest about their work nor as outwardly hot, horny, and sexually aggressive.

"Wow, you're not fat. ".

"Does my boss know that you're not Korean. ".

"Did you choose me, or did my boss choose for you?

"My customers in Seoul are 20's and 30's. Outside of Seoul they are 40's and 50's. ".

"I fuck 10-12 guys a day and take at least two in the mouth. ".

"I don't want to get married. I want to save $100,000 USD, return to Thailand, and be able to pay for men like you pay for me. There is a rich Thai women on Tiktok who does this. ".

"Boss requests customers IDs to check if they are police. ".

"I already had trouble with police, so if I leave Korea, I cannot come back. ".

"I take two hours to orgasm, but I can enjoy the whole time. ".

"I hope you can fuck me the whole time. ".

"I get bored with guys after one or two dates. ".

"I want to fuck all the time. ".

"I think all Koreans have no hearts. ".

"How come guys want to cum when they fuck hard and fast?

"Don't cum. ".

"OK, you can cum. ".

"You lived in Korea too long. You don't fuck like a white man. ".

"Korean guys are clean. ".

"Korean guys always announce when they are going to cum. ".

"Many Korean guys fuck, then play games on their phone until they are ready to fuck again. ".

"I once fucked an American soldier who did it like a pornstar, but after an hour he didn't cum. ".

"I let you pay after because I think I can trust you. ".

"When it feels really good, you don't want to cum, right?

I'm most interested in kiss bangs and found that there isn't a lot of into on here. I TOFTT. More than one and here's some info for those interested.

I went to a few recently. Hot date kiss at sillim had by far the best girls. I went to three at Sillim are hot date, kiss 21, and all loving kiss. Was rejected by hera for not being Korean.

Kiss 21 mostly has two girls working during the day. The better looking is Jisoo. She's okay looking but not that hot. 30 k BJ 50 k HJ. 150 k FS. The other girl I gave a shot to even though the male worker didn't recommend her. She was pretty awful looks wise. Very friendly. Looks terrible. Forgot her name.

All loving. First girl wasn't my type. Asked to switch. Second girl had a cute face but body wise is bigger than I like. But she's not like really fat. Some of you may like girls with more meat like her. She did have a very cute face. Spoke good English and was very friendly. Name is sodam.

Hot date had the best girls I felt. Prices the same everywhere and bomi was thicker but attractive. Hye na was okay also. But I didn't like her as she had kind of a weird affinity for dry humping and seems to like it and want you to do it. She also wouldn't take off her top which I didn't like.

Kiss time in hongdae had higher prices. Both girls I saw and also from previous experience quite 50 HJ 100 BJ and 150 FS. First girl they sent me was big. Like really big. Immediately turned her away and asked for second girl who was better but not very hot face was a 6.5? Friendly though and seemed into the session. Name was yeseo. Came back a second time since I had good experiences here previously. Got a girl named.

Doah. She was better looking but also not slim like I like but was very friendly. Her face was better than yeseo.

Sistar seems closed. Many of the other ones at sillim look closed and the other one at hongdae by kiss time also looks closed. If anyone know of any others, please post or pm me directions and locations. I'd love to check them out and can report back. I'm leaving Korea soon so don't have mic time left.

Visited Seoul about a month ago. For whatever reason, was unable to log into op website while in-country, even though it worked fine both right before and after the trip when logging in from USA. Maybe I have to use a vpn next time?

I can read Korean, but I don't know some of the adult industry related vocab and shorthand, so op website is kinda difficult to navigate anyways. Would be really cool (though time consuming) if someone could write up a guide on how to navigate and use that site, and what various things mean.

Also really annoying. Op website everything is an image. So you can't use ctrl+f to search for specific terms or anything.

Anyways, went with a MR provider since that site worked fine, and its supposedly a more reliable (though more expensive) option anyways for english speakers.

Will provide review on that later, some factors are making that session a question mark still for now.

I put together a simple how-to and definitions list that gathers together a few of my forum posts into one convenient location. But first a disclaimer: to the degree that it matters (and it seems to matter quite a lot), I'm white, speak Korean, reside in Korea, and I'm relatively fit, young, and polite. Depending on your identity and linguistic ability, your mileage may vary drastically.

There are many OP sites, but in my opinion Opgani9 is the best. To use an OP site, register an account and then narrow your search by using the 업 종 선 택 (service type) and 지 역 선 택 (neighborhood) functions so that you can view, for instance, only Hyugetel in Gangnam rather than every type of service in every neighborhood of every city. Once you narrow down your hunt, contact as many different numbers as you can. Tell them you're not Korean, but be prepared to be ghosted and be prepared to be told that it's not possible for foreigners to make reservations. You can call or text, but for best results call.

If / when you find a place that accepts you, they will inevitably ask for ID to prove that you're not a cop. Send a picture of your ID, and provided that you're not a cop, you'll be able to make a reservation. I've always completed the process in Korean, so I have no idea how they react to customers trying to make reservations in English. I assume that it's harder but I fear that it may even be completely impossible (The two most recent women I met told me that I was the only non-Korean they had seen in the 2 and 6 years respectively that they had worked in Korea).

Regarding the service types, YMMV, but I have yet to be accepted by a traditional 오 피 (OP). OPs are where young Korean women work. However, I've been readily accepted by 휴 게 텔 (Hyugetel) where young Thais work, and 건 마 (Gunma) where older Koreans work. There are other types of businesses, but I won't go into them here. All of the businesses mentioned above operate out of nondescript studio apartments located in every major metropolitan area in the country. However, some Gunma and a few Hyugetel reside in commercial massage parlor buildings.

Let's start with my personal favorite.

휴 게 텔 (Hyugetel) is a portmanteau of rest and hotel which translates to rest-tel. Most women working at these places are young Thai women (20's-30's). Some speak English, some speak Korean, and some speak only Thai. Services are divided by time and number of cum shots. 분 is minutes; 1 샷 is one cum shot; 2 샷 is two cum shots; and 무 한 샷 is unlimited cum shots. There's also 핸 드, which stands for a hand job until completion. Depending on the women, listed free services may include:

1 역 립 (yeoklip) means you can touch her.

2 키 스 (kiss) means kissing. Depending on the women this may mean DFK or it may mean closed mouth pecking.

3 알 까 시 (alggashi) means she'll lick your balls.

4 똥 까 시 (Ddonggashi) means rimming.

5 69 is 69.

6 BJ is BJ.

7 사 까 시 (saggahi) also means BJ.

8 목 까 시 (mokggashi) means deep throat.

9 동 반 샤 워 (dongbanshower) means she'll lather you up and rinse you off in the shower. This may also include a one minute warm up shower BJ.

For an extra charge you can request the following:

1 입 싸 (ipssa) means cum in mouth.

2 얼 싸 (alssa) means you can cum on her face.

3 노 콘 (Nocon) means bareback.

4 질 싸 (jilssa) means creampie.

5 노 질 (nojil) is an abbreviation that means bareback creampie.

6 정 액 먹 기 (jangaekmokgi) means she'll swallow your load.

7 딜 도 (dildo) means she'll whip out a toy.

건 마 (Gunma) is a massage service where everything is allowed short of vaginal penetration and where everything is done to you while you lay down. The women are always on top. However, if a women likes you enough and you ask, she may offer covered full service for an additional fee on subsequent encounters. The service at gunma are generally provided by older Korean women (30's-40's). If you don't get off during the service, you'll be lathered up with gel and given a handjob at the end. The service leading up to the handjob is a massage but it also normally includes:

1 역 립 (yeoklip) means you can touch her.

2 부 비 부 비 (booby booby) means titfuck.

3 하 비 욧 (hobbyyeot) is non-penetrative sex where her closed vagina is lubed up and rubbed across one's dick.

4 똥 까 시 (Ddonggashi) mean rimming.

5 입 싸 (ipssa) in this context means BJ.

6 청 룡 (changryeong), is a BJ where the women takes your dick in her mouth and moves her head up near your belly button in one motion and then down between your legs in the next. So it's a blowjob, but it takes place along a different plane of movement. As far as I'm aware, there's no word for this in English.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2770093]I put together a simple how-to and definitions list that gathers together a few of my forum posts into one convenient location. But first a disclaimer: to the degree that it matters (and it seems to matter quite a lot), I'm white, speak Korean, reside in Korea, and I'm relatively fit, young, and polite. Depending on your identity and linguistic ability, your mileage may vary drastically.

There are many OP sites, but in my opinion Opgani9 is the best. To use an OP site, register an account and then narrow your search by using the 업 종 선 택 (service type) and 지 역 선 택 (neighborhood) functions so that you can view, for instance, only Hyugetel in Gangnam rather than every type of service in every neighborhood of every city. Once you narrow down your hunt, contact as many different numbers as you can. Tell them you're not Korean, but be prepared to be ghosted and be prepared to be told that it's not possible for foreigners to make reservations. You can call or text, but for best results call.

If / when you find a place that accepts you, they will inevitably ask for ID to prove that you're not a cop. Send a picture of your ID, and provided that you're not a cop, you'll be able to make a reservation. I've always completed the process in Korean, so I have no idea how they react to customers trying to make reservations in English. I assume that it's harder but I fear that it may even be completely impossible (The two most recent women I met told me that I was the only non-Korean they had seen in the 2 and 6 years respectively that they had worked in Korea).

Regarding the service types, YMMV, but I have yet to be accepted by a traditional 오 피 (OP). OPs are where young Korean women work. However, I've been readily accepted by 휴 게 텔 (Hyugetel) where young Thais work, and 건 마 (Gunma) where older Koreans work. There are other types of businesses, but I won't go into them here. All of the businesses mentioned above operate out of nondescript studio apartments located in every major metropolitan area in the country. However, some Gunma and a few Hyugetel reside in commercial massage parlor buildings...[/QUOTE]Wow buddy. This is huge. Don't have time to read thru all of it now but def will later. Many thanks, you're a hero.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2770093]I put together a simple how-to and definitions list that gathers together a few of my forum posts into one convenient location. But first a disclaimer: to the degree that it matters (and it seems to matter quite a lot), I'm white, speak Korean, reside in Korea, and I'm relatively fit, young, and polite. Depending on your identity and linguistic ability, your mileage may vary drastically.

There are many OP sites, but in my opinion Opgani9 is the best. To use an OP site, register an account and then narrow your search by using the 업 종 선 택 (service type) and 지 역 선 택 (neighborhood) functions so that you can view, for instance, only Hyugetel in Gangnam rather than every type of service in every neighborhood of every city. Once you narrow down your hunt, contact as many different numbers as you can. Tell them you're not Korean, but be prepared to be ghosted and be prepared to be told that it's not possible for foreigners to make reservations. You can call or text, but for best results call.[/QUOTE]A few questions if you don't mind:

유55141;51452;51216; - these are just clubs / bars? I see one of the options is room salon, which my acquaintances have said are fun, but have been non specific about what goes down there. What are the various club activities?

립52852;54168; - I assume these are the lip cafes that have been mentioned in previous posts?

I see "NF" listed a lot. What does that mean?

What is the best way to contact these people? Line? Whatsapp? Kakao? Will they be okay w / non-korean phone numbers, or should you get a local number for better chances?

Are there any outcall options for any of these, and if so, what would be the terminology to look for?

Despite being able to read Korean, I find addresses in Korean to be hard to understand. Got any tips?

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2770317]A few questions if you don't mind:

유55141;51452;51216; - these are just clubs / bars? I see one of the options is room salon, which my acquaintances have said are fun, but have been non specific about what goes down there. What are the various club activities?

립52852;54168; - I assume these are the lip cafes that have been mentioned in previous posts?

I see "NF" listed a lot. What does that mean?

What is the best way to contact these people? Line? Whatsapp? Kakao? Will they be okay w / non-korean phone numbers, or should you get a local number for better chances?

Are there any outcall options for any of these, and if so, what would be the terminology to look for?

Despite being able to read Korean, I find addresses in Korean to be hard to understand. Got any tips?[/QUOTE]I can't see the Korean you've written because of how the forum works, but I'm guessing you're talking about room salons. They're mostly inaccessible to non-koreans and its usually done in a group anyway. You pay for drinks / food and girls to enjoy it with you. More may or may not happen right there or you can take the girl to a motel for extra. If you're not going with a group of korean friends and you don't speak korean fluently, I wouldn't worry about this one as its probably not in your possibilities.

NF means New Face, so its a new girl.

Local number is a must. Most want a phone call, but some will text or take kakao / telegram / line. Its usually in the posting.

Never seen outcall offered on OP.

As far as reading the addresses, I guess just familiarize yourself with them and the language and get used to it. Or just copy paste them in a map app. Not sure there is a trick for that one other than improving your korean.

to reiterate bonjovi's post, if you cant speak korean YMMV massively. i cant imagine a lot of the places i've been dealing with me had i not been able to, so if your language skills are not there, you should set your expectations accordingly and look through the forum for some of the places that have been noted to be english/foreigner friendly. its great to have a guide on OP like this for everyone, but its really not going to do much for you if you're unable to communicate to book at these locations in the first place.

Any to be found in Jung-Gu / Namdaemun area? What signs should I look for?

I have done the MR thing but wanted to try something different. I am only in Korea for a couple more days. One day I will get the courage to ask my Korean work counterparts to take me out for a fun night. Would they think me odd, or is that fairly normal for them? Nobody has ever offered to take me and I have been to Korea often over the years. Maybe they would be afraid to offend me?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2770317]A few questions if you don't mind:

유55141;51452;51216; - these are just clubs / bars? I see one of the options is room salon, which my acquaintances have said are fun, but have been non specific about what goes down there. What are the various club activities?

립52852;54168; - I assume these are the lip cafes that have been mentioned in previous posts?

I see "NF" listed a lot. What does that mean?

What is the best way to contact these people? Line? Whatsapp? Kakao? Will they be okay w / non-korean phone numbers, or should you get a local number for better chances?

Are there any outcall options for any of these, and if so, what would be the terminology to look for?

Despite being able to read Korean, I find addresses in Korean to be hard to understand. Got any tips?[/QUOTE]I can see that Peanuts has answered your questions and can confirm that everything he has written is spot on.

Thanks for the help guys!

Anyways here's my report from my Seoul trip last month.

Like I said before, for whatever reason, was unable to log into OP website in Korea. I didn't want to visit an anma, and have no contacts in Korea right now, so I had to go to MR to find someone. Decided on Valentina, since she had the most reviews, and her profile said she had some Latina in her.

Setup was easy using Line. She has an officetel setup. Her place is not the cleanest in the world. I wouldn't say its dirty, but it is messy, and there is a bit of mildew smells coming from somewhere near the shower. Bed area was fine.

She looks 100% exactly like her photos. Definitely some manmade portions, but relatively well done.

She says she's Peruvian, but I'm almost certain she's 100% Thai.

Very passionate kissing, and amazing BBBJ, maybe top 5 for me.

She was open to pretty much anything and everything, though for some upcharges. All in all a good experience, though more than what Korean market rate would have been if I didn't find her through MR. Still, much less than the cost in the states for similar levels of service (especially since the exchange rate was so favorable!

I'd say I recommend her, if you are not in a situation to do some legwork and find better and less expensive options. It's still a much better value than in the states, at the end of the day.

Pros:

Attractive, young.

Passionate and skilled.

Very open menu, with upcharges.

Speaks English well enough to communicate if your Korean is no good.

Officetel setup is a bit more private and easier to navigate, esp if you're a foreigner in town. Just walk into building, take elevator to her room.

Cons:

Maybe too skilled and pro-like if you don't necessarily like that.

Not the cleanest room.

Some manmade stuff.

She had a small cold when I visited her. I personally think this is a big risk since it could screw over your trip if you get flagged for being sick, but I assume she's recovered. She should have told me though before I visited.

Not the best value compared to other options if you're willing to put in effort to find them.

Hey all, its been a while for me. I haven't been to Seoul in ages. I used to get all my infor from opopstar, but can't seem to find it anymore. What are the new sites these days?

Also, I was in Seoul over the summer and sawa Japanese lady from MR. It seems like she is back in Seoul (sadly, I am not) and I recommend her if you are looking for a good MR girl.

She was using the name Emily when I saw her, but now it is Ryoko I think. She was a lot of fun and I would love to see her again, but don't think she will be around when I get to Seoul in a couple weeks.

One of the best things I remember about her was her silky skin. It just felt so good to get in close to her. She also offered me no condom, but I passed. The only downside (for me) was her manmades. I prefer small and natural, but they certainly looked great.

Anyways, I'm hoping to visit a hyugyetel next time I'm in town and want to know the sites people are using lately.

Gents,

Some of you probably read my previous posts from my last trip. Did try a service off the OP site (800 k +) it was good. You can read more details from my previous post and replies.

What I wanted to ask is if any of you actually try your luck out and about? I mean chasing a girl has it's own thrill LOL. Anyone who has experience with upscale high end places in Seoul?

I am going back in a few weeks and do plan to try a few providers again from the OP site. Got a few quotes 1,5 M ++ . I know some of you think I'm an idiot for doing that, but hey. Someone has to be that too: the.

Report on that will follow. And if anyone is in Korea and want to ball out let me know.

Finally made it back to Seoul last month after being away for several years. To me, a non-Korean speaker, Seoul is a tough place to navigate for mongering. Years ago I had a nice random barber-pole experience with a cute girl, at a place I wandered into in Gangnam. It started with a massage and then she took me into this tiny hidden room to do the deed. Unusual and fun, but I have no recollection of where this place was.

I also used to hit a massage place near the Coex mall that had 20-something girls who gave a decent massage followed by a handy, but who did not disrobe. It was cheap and reliable, but not too exciting. Finally, over the years I made a few trips to the Hill in Itaewon, but it always felt seedy and the quality of ladies was mixed. Combined with being a long way from where I usually stayed, it often wasn't worth the trip.

Having been away from Korea for so long, I thought I'd check the status of the Hill nightllfe and also hit one of the foreigner-friendly anmas I read about on the board. First, I picked the wrong night for Itaewon, as it is completely dead on Sunday nights (I only had two days in the city). I had trouble finding the right area based on my faulty memory, it looked much different from my previous visit years ago. Only one or two hooker clubs were barely open, staffed by a couple of heavy old hags, and one of them might have been a tranny bar. Not remotely enticing; I didn't go in. I was the only would-be punter around, so I just took a cab back to Gangnam and wasted $40 or so on cabs. Lesson is, don't bother with Itaewon on a Sunday night.

The most interesting part was seeing the huge piles of flowers and notes in the area near Itaewon Station and next to the hotel that was ground zero for the Halloween disaster where 150-odd people were crushed to death in the crowds. A horrific episode, and easy to see how it could happen in those narrow alleyways.

The next afternoon I visited Castle Anma, or whatever its new name is. Instructions down thread on how to find it, but it's easy, just off the main boulevard of Teheran-ro in Gangnam. I entered around 1 pm, there were no other visible guests there, and they welcomed me in a not-too-enthusiastic way. The charge was 300,000 won, and then I had to wait about a half hour in this weird mechanical massage chair, which might have been the best part of the experience. It was a damn good massage.

After 30 minutes of getting ground up by a La-Z-Boy, the guy brought me upstairs to the girl who was probably mid-30's, not too attractive face, but nice slim legs and ass with a big natural rack. So even though she wasn't a hottie, I wasn't too disappointed with the random assignment. She spoke very little English but was nice enough, didn't cop a bad attitude at all.

The rest of it was the standard anma experience. Table shower with lots of rimming moving into BBBJ. I stopped her before I blew so we could dry off and move to the bed, where she took care of me before I cleaned up and left.

So it was all fine, but I wouldn't be too excited to repeat, mainly because it's such a hit and miss as to who you draw; there is no line-up. Similar to a Japanese nuru session, once you've done it once or twice it loses its allure, or at least it did for me. So I got the job done in Seoul, but it remains the kind of place where foreigners have limited options and usually not the best of providers available to us. The Korean girls at LA agencies are far hotter than any I've encountered in Korea itself. Probably won't bother repeating next time.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2770841]Gents,

Some of you probably read my previous posts from my last trip. Did try a service off the OP site (800 k +) it was good. You can read more details from my previous post and replies.

What I wanted to ask is if any of you actually try your luck out and about? I mean chasing a girl has it's own thrill LOL. Anyone who has experience with upscale high end places in Seoul?

I am going back in a few weeks and do plan to try a few providers again from the OP site. Got a few quotes 1,5 M ++ . I know some of you think I'm an idiot for doing that, but hey. Someone has to be that too: the.

Report on that will follow. And if anyone is in Korea and want to ball out let me know.[/QUOTE]If you're willing to throw away 1. 5 million on a chick then you shouldn't need anyones help lmfao. Every chick will take 1. 5.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771008]If you're willing to throw away 1. 5 million on a chick then you shouldn't need anyones help lmfao. Every chick will take 1. 5.[/QUOTE]LOL, I didn't mean help with throwing away 1,5 million. I meant as in regular action. Has anyone experience with upscale restaurants, bars, lounges ++ where you can try to run game meaning not pay your way to fun. As I said that chase has its own thrill: the.

When it comes to paying for it sure if you willing to pay whatever it's not exactly hard.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2770093]I put together a simple how-to and definitions list that gathers together a few of my forum posts into one convenient location. But first a disclaimer: to the degree that it matters (and it seems to matter quite a lot), I'm white, speak Korean, reside in Korea, and I'm relatively fit, young, and polite. Depending on your identity and linguistic ability, your mileage may vary drastically. [/QUOTE]Scene in South Korea seems very disappointing. You'd think an international city like Seoul would have tons of high class escort agencies filled with aspiring K-pop stars who need money and connections, and 18-25 both Korean and international models as well as b) level Korean movie actresses. I guess that is not the case. Almost seems you would have better luck finding a Korean in west coast USA cities like LOS Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle which have quite a few k-girl agencies. Good thing I'm more into asians of darker complexion anyways. Philippines and Thailand seem way more fun. South Korea and Japan are obsessed with rules, rules, and more rules. And creepy cultural norms of an idea of "sticking with their own" even for their wh*res.

[QUOTE=EdHaskell;2770874]Finally made it back to Seoul last month after being away for several years. To me, a non-Korean speaker, Seoul is a tough place to navigate for mongering. Years ago I had a nice random barber-pole experience with a cute girl, at a place I wandered into in Gangnam. It started with a massage and then she took me into this tiny hidden room to do the deed. Unusual and fun, but I have no recollection of where this place was.

I also used to hit a massage place near the Coex mall that had 20-something girls who gave a decent massage followed by a handy, but who did not disrobe. It was cheap and reliable, but not too exciting. Finally, over the years I made a few trips to the Hill in Itaewon, but it always felt seedy and the quality of ladies was mixed. Combined with being a long way from where I usually stayed, it often wasn't worth the trip.

Having been away from Korea for so long, I thought I'd check the status of the Hill nightllfe and also hit one of the foreigner-friendly anmas I read about on the board. First, I picked the wrong night for Itaewon, as it is completely dead on Sunday nights (I only had two days in the city). I had trouble finding the right area based on my faulty memory, it looked much different from my previous visit years ago. Only one or two hooker clubs were barely open, staffed by a couple of heavy old hags, and one of them might have been a tranny bar. Not remotely enticing; I didn't go in. I was the only would-be punter around, so I just took a cab back to Gangnam and wasted $40 or so on cabs. Lesson is, don't bother with Itaewon on a Sunday night.

The most interesting part was seeing the huge piles of flowers and notes in the area near Itaewon Station and next to the hotel that was ground zero for the Halloween disaster where 150-odd people were crushed to death in the crowds. A horrific episode, and easy to see how it could happen in those narrow alleyways.

The next afternoon I visited Castle Anma, or whatever its new name is. Instructions down thread on how to find it, but it's easy, just off the main boulevard of Teheran-ro in Gangnam. I entered around 1 pm, there were no other visible guests there, and they welcomed me in a not-too-enthusiastic way. The charge was 300,000 won, and then I had to wait about a half hour in this weird mechanical massage chair, which might have been the best part of the experience. It was a damn good massage.

After 30 minutes of getting ground up by a La-Z-Boy, the guy brought me upstairs to the girl who was probably mid-30's, not too attractive face, but nice slim legs and ass with a big natural rack. So even though she wasn't a hottie, I wasn't too disappointed with the random assignment. She spoke very little English but was nice enough, didn't cop a bad attitude at all.

The rest of it was the standard anma experience. Table shower with lots of rimming moving into BBBJ. I stopped her before I blew so we could dry off and move to the bed, where she took care of me before I cleaned up and left.

So it was all fine, but I wouldn't be too excited to repeat, mainly because it's such a hit and miss as to who you draw; there is no line-up. Similar to a Japanese nuru session, once you've done it once or twice it loses its allure, or at least it did for me. So I got the job done in Seoul, but it remains the kind of place where foreigners have limited options and usually not the best of providers available to us. The Korean girls at LA agencies are far hotter than any I've encountered in Korea itself. Probably won't bother repeating next time.[/QUOTE]Didn't check out Miari or YDP?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2770093]I put together a simple how-to and definitions list that gathers together a few of my forum posts into one convenient location. But first a disclaimer: to the degree that it matters (and it seems to matter quite a lot), I'm white, speak Korean, reside in Korea, and I'm relatively fit, young, and polite. Depending on your identity and linguistic ability, your mileage may vary drastically.

There are many OP sites, but in my opinion Opgani9 is the best. To use an OP site, register an account and then narrow your search by using the 업 종 선 택 (service type) and 지 역 선 택 (neighborhood) functions so that you can view, for instance, only Hyugetel in Gangnam rather than every type of service in every neighborhood of every city. Once you narrow down your hunt, contact as many different numbers as you can. Tell them you're not Korean, but be prepared to be ghosted and be prepared to be told that it's not possible for foreigners to make reservations. You can call or text, but for best results call.

If / when you find a place that accepts you, they will inevitably ask for ID to prove that you're not a cop. Send a picture of your ID, and provided that you're not a cop, you'll be able to make a reservation. I've always completed the process in Korean, so I have no idea how they react to customers trying to make reservations in English. I assume that it's harder but I fear that it may even be completely impossible (The two most recent women I met told me that I was the only non-Korean they had seen in the 2 and 6 years respectively that they had worked in Korea).

Regarding the service types, YMMV, but I have yet to be accepted by a traditional 오 피 (OP). OPs are where young Korean women work. However, I've been readily accepted by 휴 게 텔 (Hyugetel) where young Thais work, and 건 마 (Gunma) where older Koreans work. There are other types of businesses, but I won't go into them here. All of the businesses mentioned above operate out of nondescript studio apartments located in every major metropolitan area in the country. However, some Gunma and a few Hyugetel reside in commercial massage parlor buildings.

Let's start with my personal favorite.

휴 게 텔 (Hyugetel) is a portmanteau of rest and hotel which translates to rest-tel. Most women working at these places are young Thai women (20's-30's). Some speak English, some speak Korean, and some speak only Thai. Services are divided by time and number of cum shots. 분 is minutes; 1 샷 is one cum shot; 2 샷 is two cum shots; and 무 한 샷 is unlimited cum shots. There's also 핸 드, which stands for a hand job until completion. Depending on the women, listed free services may include:

1 역 립 (yeoklip) means you can touch her.

2 키 스 (kiss) means kissing. Depending on the women this may mean DFK or it may mean closed mouth pecking.

3 알 까 시 (alggashi) means she'll lick your balls.

4 똥 까 시 (Ddonggashi) means rimming.

5 69 is 69.

6 BJ is BJ.

7 사 까 시 (saggahi) also means BJ.

8 목 까 시 (mokggashi) means deep throat.

9 동 반 샤 워 (dongbanshower) means she'll lather you up and rinse you off in the shower. This may also include a one minute warm up shower BJ.

For an extra charge you can request the following:

1 입 싸 (ipssa) means cum in mouth.

2 얼 싸 (alssa) means you can cum on her face.

3 노 콘 (Nocon) means bareback.

4 질 싸 (jilssa) means creampie.

5 노 질 (nojil) is an abbreviation that means bareback creampie.

6 정 액 먹 기 (jangaekmokgi) means she'll swallow your load.

7 딜 도 (dildo) means she'll whip out a toy.

건 마 (Gunma) is a massage service where everything is allowed short of vaginal penetration and where everything is done to you while you lay down. The women are always on top. However, if a women likes you enough and you ask, she may offer covered full service for an additional fee on subsequent encounters. The service at gunma are generally provided by older Korean women (30's-40's). If you don't get off during the service, you'll be lathered up with gel and given a handjob at the end. The service leading up to the handjob is a massage but it also normally includes:

1 역 립 (yeoklip) means you can touch her.

2 부 비 부 비 (booby booby) means titfuck.

3 하 비 욧 (hobbyyeot) is non-penetrative sex where her closed vagina is lubed up and rubbed across one's dick.

4 똥 까 시 (Ddonggashi) mean rimming.

5 입 싸 (ipssa) in this context means BJ.

6 청 룡 (changryeong), is a BJ where the women takes your dick in her mouth and moves her head up near your belly button in one motion and then down between your legs in the next. So it's a blowjob, but it takes place along a different plane of movement. As far as I'm aware, there's no word for this in English.[/QUOTE]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2769857]I'm most interested in kiss bangs and found that there isn't a lot of into on here. I TOFTT. More than one and here's some info for those interested.

I went to a few recently. Hot date kiss at sillim had by far the best girls. I went to three at Sillim are hot date, kiss 21, and all loving kiss. Was rejected by hera for not being Korean.

Kiss 21 mostly has two girls working during the day. The better looking is Jisoo. She's okay looking but not that hot. 30 k BJ 50 k HJ. 150 k FS. The other girl I gave a shot to even though the male worker didn't recommend her. She was pretty awful looks wise. Very friendly. Looks terrible. Forgot her name.

All loving. First girl wasn't my type. Asked to switch. Second girl had a cute face but body wise is bigger than I like. But she's not like really fat. Some of you may like girls with more meat like her. She did have a very cute face. Spoke good English and was very friendly. Name is sodam.

Hot date had the best girls I felt. Prices the same everywhere and bomi was thicker but attractive. Hye na was okay also. But I didn't like her as she had kind of a weird affinity for dry humping and seems to like it and want you to do it. She also wouldn't take off her top which I didn't like..[/QUOTE]What is the entry fee to the Silim kiss bang? Is HJ more than BJ or is that a typo? Interested in total cost. Thanks!

It's 90 k for 1 hour and 60 k for 30 minutes. And yea the HJ BJ price is switched. Typo. 21 kiss is 50 k and 90 k.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2771238]What is the entry fee to the Silim kiss bang? Is HJ more than BJ or is that a typo? Interested in total cost. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]I feel like if you just hit up the anmas, you're 1) more likely to get in as a foreigner vs having to communicate w / a booker over the phone, especially if you go off hours, and 2) they tend to be a little older in their 30's there. But others here are more knowledgeable than me.

[QUOTE=RedWaters44;2771028]Scene in South Korea seems very disappointing. You'd think an international city like Seoul would have tons of high class escort agencies filled with aspiring K-pop stars who need money and connections, and 18-25 both Korean and international models as well as b) level Korean movie actresses. I guess that is not the case. Almost seems you would have better luck finding a Korean in west coast USA cities like LOS Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle which have quite a few k-girl agencies. Good thing I'm more into asians of darker complexion anyways. Philippines and Thailand seem way more fun. South Korea and Japan are obsessed with rules, rules, and more rules. And creepy cultural norms of an idea of "sticking with their own" even for their wh*res.[/QUOTE]From what I understand, top level talent is 100% out there, including former failed kpop stars and such, but you have to be native Korean to gain access, or be super close friends with someone who has an in.

[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2771574]I feel like if you just hit up the anmas, you're 1) more likely to get in as a foreigner vs having to communicate w / a booker over the phone, especially if you go off hours, and 2) they tend to be a little older in their 30's there. But others here are more knowledgeable than me.[/QUOTE]Prefer something different then anmas. They are too hit and miss for the high price.

It was a let down. Braving the -5 deg cold, headed out around 9-10 pm and got rejected. Not even looking / talking to me. At most places. A couple of places they showed me 200 K KRW as the cost on the phone calculator. I countered with 100 K, but they would not budge. The ladies looked 30+ and not worth that kind of money in a RLD. So got into a coffee shop close by and warmed myself with a couple of coffees before heading back.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2764702]Thanks let us know how this trip in YDP went.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;2749974]The sign says they're moving on the 5th, but the current location is completely torn apart with nobody there. At the new location underneath Mega Coffee, it's also under construction, so are they just temporarily closed in both places?

Also, the place is called Secret K, but it seems to also go by Kiss Time? They're the same thing right?

Are there any other Kiss Bangs in Hongdae besides that one? Isn't Kiss 7 closed?[/QUOTE]Anyone know if this place moved somewhere else or shut down? Are there other kissbangs near hongdae?

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2771755]It was a let down. Braving the -5 deg cold, headed out around 9-10 pm and got rejected. Not even looking / talking to me. At most places. A couple of places they showed me 200 K KRW as the cost on the phone calculator. I countered with 100 K, but they would not budge. The ladies looked 30+ and not worth that kind of money in a RLD. So got into a coffee shop close by and warmed myself with a couple of coffees before heading back.[/QUOTE]Pretty looking ones at YDP actively avoid eye contact with foreigners. Atleast they tried to rip you off, but honestly 200 K for a 15 minutes mechanical session is clear day robbery.

Once a very pretty 20's to early 30's something girl took me in at 100 K but I never had such chance again over there. It's mostly ajhuma's 40 and above who don't get Korean customers that take-on everyone including foreigners.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2771549]It's 90 k for 1 hour and 60 k for 30 minutes. And yea the HJ BJ price is switched. Typo. 21 kiss is 50 k and 90 k.[/QUOTE]So you spend 110,000 for 30 minutes and a HJ?

Are you serious?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2771192]Didn't check out Miari or YDP?[/QUOTE]No. As noted, I always stay in Gangnam, so the north end of Seoul seems way off the map for me. Wasn't even familiar with YDP until reading some recent posts. And it was cold as hell to be wandering around.

I'm very comfortable walking all around Hong Kong and Tokyo, but I find Seoul more difficult to navigate, for some reason. Just a sprawling, traffic-clogged and unattractive huge city. I do love Korean women, though. Among the best looking and best service in the worldwide hobby, IMO.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2771014]LOL, I didn't mean help with throwing away 1,5 million. I meant as in regular action. Has anyone experience with upscale restaurants, bars, lounges ++ where you can try to run game meaning not pay your way to fun. As I said that chase has its own thrill: the.

When it comes to paying for it sure if you willing to pay whatever it's not exactly hard.[/QUOTE]Looks like I'll have to contribute to my own thread lolz, arriving in Seoul tonight.

2 appointments set up with VVIP agencies (900-1,3 M KRW each).

As always I am shit at writing up field reports so if you want one please be as specific as possible in terms.

Of what you want to know and I'll reply.

[QUOTE=RedWaters44;2771028]South Korea and Japan are obsessed with rules, rules, and more rules. And creepy cultural norms of an idea of "sticking with their own" even for their wh*res.[/QUOTE]Philippines and Thailand are dirt poor countries with shit flowing down open canals where millions of people scratch by in a most basic existence.

South Korea and Japan are some of the most developed countries in the world, surpassing western countries in many areas like education (and IQ), safety, infrastructure, health (including STIs and HIV), technology, internet coverage, internet speeds, improved sanitation and more.

The plain fact is that South Korea and Japan don't need or want you. So you can either adapt to what's available or stick to the third world.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2775769]Looks like I'll have to contribute to my own thread lolz, arriving in Seoul tonight.

2 appointments set up with VVIP agencies (900-1,3 M KRW each).

As always I am shit at writing up field reports so if you want one please be as specific as possible in terms.

Of what you want to know and I'll reply.[/QUOTE]I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well!

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2775901]I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well![/QUOTE]Cool, will do. One thing I am wondering about tho is how hard police is trying to hammer down on these activities. As it is per law illegal in South Korea, I wonder if they do any sting operations where they set up fake agencies through OP. Or is it just my imagination running wild?

Anyways that is one thing I wouldn't want to find out the hard way LOL.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2773227]So you spend 110,000 for 30 minutes and a HJ?

Are you serious?[/QUOTE]If you think that's crazy then look at the latest posts. 2 k on a couple of mechanical Korean chicks with surgery LOL.

Visited a Hyugetel in the greater Jamsil area again.

On this visit, I met with a very cute woman who, unfortunately, gave a very poor blowjob--she just sort of licked around the tip. Thankfully, she was hot and made up for the poor BJ by being an avid kisser. As an added bonus she let me explore her body, and had no qualms with me going down on her.

When I finished, she remarked that in the two years she has been in Korea, not a single guy had licked her pussy. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who enjoys slurping it up, but apparently Koreans don't do it or at least they don't do it with these types of ladies.

50 min BBFSCIP 120,000 won.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]Almost all of the OP advertisements list the age of the women. They are also fairly accurate. At most, some of the women might be 5 years older than the listed age, but this is only because the women has been working for 5 years and her information hasn't been updated since she started work.

In Korea, I haven't found that older women are any better than younger ones. It's more a matter of vibes. I've had good, bad, and great experiences with women ranging in age from roughly 19 to 50.

As a rule of thumb, my best experiences have almost always occured on second visits. I've learned that most women keep their guard up on a first encounter. However, repeat visits make them feel sexy, flattered, and unafraid. They always offer a better experience on subsequent visits.

Importantly, I never repeat with women who offer genuinely poor service, women who do not attempt to make conversation in either English or Korean, or women who don't kiss or who don't allow DATY.

And to answer your question, you can't search for Milfs because the ads are all image based. Unfortunately, it's a feature of Korean internet culture which all expats deplore.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]I should have added that there is a place that deals exclusively in milfs called 강 남 건 마 골 드 미 스 . They confirmed that they would let me make an appointment, so they might do the same for you. However, I never made an appointment and so I've never been. That being said, it's a Gunma, so full service is probably not on the table, but they should offer massage plus handjob service.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2775895]Philippines and Thailand are dirt poor countries with shit flowing down open canals where millions of people scratch by in a most basic existence.

South Korea and Japan are some of the most developed countries in the world, surpassing western countries in many areas like education (and IQ), safety, infrastructure, health (including STIs and HIV), technology, internet coverage, internet speeds, improved sanitation and more.

The plain fact is that South Korea and Japan don't need or want you. So you can either adapt to what's available or stick to the third world.[/QUOTE]Third World is the usa.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2776059]Visited a Hyugetel in the greater Jamsil area again.

On this visit, I met with a very cute woman who, unfortunately, gave a very poor blowjob--she just sort of licked around the tip. Thankfully, she was hot and made up for the poor BJ by being an avid kisser. As an added bonus she let me explore her body, and had no qualms with me going down on her.

When I finished, she remarked that in the two years she has been in Korea, not a single guy had licked her pussy. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who enjoys slurping it up, but apparently Koreans don't do it or at least they don't do it with these types of ladies.

50 min BBFSCIP 120,000 won.[/QUOTE]I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).

Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]If you are onto milfs, I recommend you look at postings that include 1 or 2 in their name headings. You can find these under "Gunma) Section. These shops only have one or two older women offering massage services and / or FS.

But not all will be offering FS. They advertise massage but look carefully at the ad for a word "shot" in English or Korean.

Listed age for these shops is 35 and above but remember that the listed age will mostly end up being +5 to +10, even higher according to a Korean forum I once read about these MILF shops.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2776544]I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).

Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.[/QUOTE]I just ask. I probably get close to a 50 percent hit rate on DFK and DATY. I've never been told that it hurts, but women have told me they are too sensitive or ticklish. Others preapply lubrication and are simply sparing me the experience of sitting up with a mouthful of lube. However, on a few rare occasions, I've found women who like DATY and who also get wildly wet from it.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2776544]I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).

Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.[/QUOTE]90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.

Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.

Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.

Itaewon, The Hill:

Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.

Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.

O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.

Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much.

Ambrosia: This place looks like it's closed as there was a wall of boxes and garbage in front of their front door. Was really looking forward to trying this place out, only blame myself for waiting too damn long. If anyone knows where it moved to, please PM me. Wanted to try the freaky young Thai girl from here.

Texas: 2 ladies working that night. Went with the one who didn't look like a doll, a bit heavier but still decent. BBBJ then transitioned to a CBJ, 80 k. I like that she was slurping on it, the sound effects were just arousing LOL.

Went into the Grand Ole Opry bar and turns out its just a regular bar full of foreigners LOL was expecting it to be seedy and have some freelancers.

Don't know if anyone has tried Tiffany's, Apple, CC Bar, Candy Bar or the massage parlor on the 3rd floor across from Candy Bar / Apple all on that same road. But with all the Trans bars there, wouldn't be surprised if some of these I hadn't ventured into yet are Trans bars.

Hongdae:

Kiss place: Not sure of the name cause the sign is really faded. Went there twice during business hours, first time door was closed / lights off and second time was turned away. Was told they were closed by the desk clerk, not going to argue with the man and will try again next time.

King Thai: Found this place but wasn't sure the first time as I was turned around at the door. It has regular lighting at the front desk, which confused me as the places with extras here always have that red lighting when you walk in. Second visit I confirmed it was King Thai and was allowed in, girl and service was ok. Got a korean provider, mid to late 30's. Paid girl separately from what I paid the front desk, don't remember the amount but was under 100 k for the girl. This was my first massage spa in Seoul, so guessing a separate fee will always be done with the girl in Seoul in general? Could be how business is done here, seniors please correct me if I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777069]Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.

Itaewon, The Hill:

Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.

Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.

O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.

Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much..[/QUOTE]Good to know I can get pussy in Hooker Hill still. Did you try Miari and YDP?

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777069]
King Thai: Found this place but wasn't sure the first time as I was turned around at the door. It has regular lighting at the front desk, which confused me as the places with extras here always have that red lighting when you walk in. Second visit I confirmed it was King Thai and was allowed in, girl and service was ok. Got a korean provider, mid to late 30's. Paid girl separately from what I paid the front desk, don't remember the amount but was under 100 k for the girl. This was my first massage spa in Seoul, so guessing a separate fee will always be done with the girl in Seoul in general? Could be how business is done here, seniors please correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Depends on the type of place, but normally for thai places or ones that pretend they're legit businesses, you'll pay the girl separately. Ones with spinning poles and / or red lights and usually older women, you normally pay / negotiate all at once at the front.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2777052]90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.

Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.[/QUOTE]I agree, the Vietnamese ones are damn good and cost friendly. There was my favorite where I used to get almost everything including BBFSCIP for just 150,000 with the most beautiful Vietnamese girls I've ever seen but they closed and I couldn't track them down again since.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2776894]I just ask. I probably get close to a 50 percent hit rate on DFK and DATY. I've never been told that it hurts, but women have told me they are too sensitive or ticklish. Others preapply lubrication and are simply sparing me the experience of sitting up with a mouthful of lube. However, on a few rare occasions, I've found women who like DATY and who also get wildly wet from it.[/QUOTE]I also figured them applying Lubrication before hand seems to be one of the reasons some reject. But I've also met few who love it so much that they even go beyond the allocated time to get more of it and get excited when they see me back.

I guess I'll also need to "just ask" whenever so I can at least hit even half of your success rate.

I haven't even tried asking for DFK with these girls yet, but it could probably be a wild experience worth a try.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2777090]Good to know I can get pussy in Hooker Hill still. Did you try Miari and YDP?[/QUOTE]My understanding is those are the glass house areas. I have not as I'm sure I wouldn't get any services since I'm a foreigner, and based on what I've read on here I wouldn't want to pay 80 k or more for a rushed 15 - 20 min.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2775901]I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well![/QUOTE]First girl:

Charge was 900 000 WON.

Her photos were accurate, contacted through agency listed on OP.

She was down for anything minus bareback (I am not interested in that anyway) BJ without condom, english level was good as my Korean is very bad. She was engaged throughout the whole session (80 minutes or so) allowed several rounds, we did it twice. Gave an amazing blowjob.

Looks wise she was really good looking and def taken out of a K drama type of girl LOL, as a comparison she looked similar to Bae Suzy which is a famous Korean actress. Body was out of this world. Did the whole DFK, GFE, allowed intense sex (spanking, deepthroat etc). Nothing really to complain about. But as I have said before I haven't really tried any of the other options so can you get the same for way less than 900 k. Probably, I have no idea.

Second girl:

Charge was 800 000 WON.

Compared to the first one this one was a bit more shy and quiet, but the rest was more or less the same. Looks wise she is similar to Kim Yong-Ji who is famous Korean actress.

I realized comparing them to famous actresses is probably the easiest way of describing how the look.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777237]My understanding is those are the glass house areas. I have not as I'm sure I wouldn't get any services since I'm a foreigner, and based on what I've read on here I wouldn't want to pay 80 k or more for a rushed 15 - 20 min.[/QUOTE]In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.

Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2777823]In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.

Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.[/QUOTE]Thankfully for me I'm not very picky as long as she has a ok face and opens her legs.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2777573]First girl:

Charge was 900 000 WON.

Her photos were accurate, contacted through agency listed on OP.

She was down for anything minus bareback (I am not interested in that anyway) BJ without condom, english level was good as my Korean is very bad. She was engaged throughout the whole session (80 minutes or so) allowed several rounds, we did it twice. Gave an amazing blowjob.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the posts! Any tips on how to get a reply from the VVIP sites as a white foreigner with modest Korean? I texted a 20 of them and no replies!! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2777206]I agree, the Vietnamese ones are damn good and cost friendly. There was my favorite where I used to get almost everything including BBFSCIP for just 150,000 with the most beautiful Vietnamese girls I've ever seen but they closed and I couldn't track them down again since.[/QUOTE]This sounds great! Any specific pointers to find the highest quality foreigner friendly Vietnamese spots?? Thanks!

In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2598491&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2598491.

Some have mentioned that the selection was thin showing up early in the evening or on Sundays. Maybe that is the reason for my experience. Got off work in Uijeongbu at about 5 pm on a Tuesday and showed up at the Dongducheon RLD a little after 530 in late December 2022. So it was just getting dark.

I walked all the areas from the map in the above link and almost all the windows were dark and empty. A few others had lights on but no girls. Only 4 windows had lights on and girls. Two looked early 40's (late 30's at best) with face 6, body 6? (can never tell till the clothes come off). I passed by them at first in search of better. But the only other two booths open had the fattest, ugliest chicks I've ever seen in Korea. Can't believe they make enough to survive. Both of them waved me in but I ignored them. Did another round of all the areas but no new windows were open by around 615. So went back to the original early 40's ok looking ones, but got rejected by both. Not sure why. I'm not hot, but not hideous. Think William Hurt at age 45. I finally just gave up.

So no luck. Maybe it was as others have suggested. Too early in the evening. Not sure. I hope others have better luck.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2778154]In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2598491&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2598491.

Some have mentioned that the selection was thin showing up early in the evening or on Sundays. Maybe that is the reason for my experience. Got off work in Uijeongbu at about 5 pm on a Tuesday and showed up at the Dongducheon RLD a little after 530 in late December 2022. So it was just getting dark.

I walked all the areas from the map in the above link and almost all the windows were dark and empty. A few others had lights on but no girls. Only 4 windows had lights on and girls. Two looked early 40's (late 30's at best) with face 6, body 6? (can never tell till the clothes come off). I passed by them at first in search of better. But the only other two booths open had the fattest, ugliest chicks I've ever seen in Korea. Can't believe they make enough to survive. Both of them waved me in but I ignored them. Did another round of all the areas but no new windows were open by around 615. So went back to the original early 40's ok looking ones, but got rejected by both..[/QUOTE]You visited on a Sunday? In my experience Friday and Saturday evening is the best time. Especially from 7 pm onwards. I have a few service oriented and good looking ones under my belt, whenever I find myself close to that area, I know who to look for. And you'll see most of the windows open on Friday and Saturday.

But It's a definitely a hit or miss on other weekdays especially in this winter, and Sunday might be the same story.

[QUOTE=KMonkey1978;2778143]This sounds great! Any specific pointers to find the highest quality foreigner friendly Vietnamese spots?? Thanks![/QUOTE]They appear and disappear, my favorite ones whom I had become a regular disappeared one by one. I haven't had much success getting into new ones lately. Now I'm just hitting gunmas for some action. Since they pose as legit massage business, chances of getting in as a foreigner increases. But girls aren't as young or appealing and pretty as in OP's.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2777052]90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.

Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.[/QUOTE]Any chance I could possibly convince you to bring me along for one of those.

I'm down to MR and a few Anmas.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2777823]In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.

Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.[/QUOTE]Good to know, I thought it was all only 1 shot. I'll have to give it a try next time I'm up in Seoul and can get away. How is the interaction though? I know YMMV, but is it more misses than hits? Basically DFK, girl gets into a bit, etc. I know no one likes a starfish LOL.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2779040]They appear and disappear, my favorite ones whom I had become a regular disappeared one by one. I haven't had much success getting into new ones lately. Now I'm just hitting gunmas for some action. Since they pose as legit massage business, chances of getting in as a foreigner increases. But girls aren't as young or appealing and pretty as in OP's.[/QUOTE]After reading this I browsed some OP locations. Wish they had a more detailed page so you can search for specific things, but can't complain when its free. There's a few locations that have Vietnamese providers, found some in Suwon. I'd look in Seoul but too many districts and locations, so don't want to put forth the effort. Funny you mention vietnamese massage parlors, cause I found one while randomly walking and exploring. I'll have to go and see if they offer extras now LOL maybe I'll get lucky and she'll be youngish. For those really craving vietnamese girl, Vietnam is only $200 plane ticket and 5 hours plane ride away. BBBJCIM is $20 with FS available at other locations for $50 - $100. Don't limit yourself to Korea, you crave an ethnicity or culture then just fly over there with a far bigger pool at a lower cost.

[QUOTE=KMonkey1978;2778142]Thanks for the posts! Any tips on how to get a reply from the VVIP sites as a white foreigner with modest Korean? I texted a 20 of them and no replies!! Thanks.[/QUOTE]Don't know if you've read prior posts, especially the ones from BonJovi, but its a hit or miss with foreigners at most of these places. Your best strategy is to just keep messaging a bunch of them and see who replies. One week they'll say no, then next week they'll say yes. Just be aware that when it's a "yes" then it's more along the lines of "we're giving you a chance, don't fuck this up" to paraphrase what BonJovi so eloquently wrote in a prior post. If you're really in dire needs for some Korean food then try MR. Lots of independent providers there, most are well below the 900 K price tag and look great as well. Although I have not partaken any of them yet, many here have FR about them. I'd read some to help you decide who'd be best and who to avoid, there's a couple you need to avoid that are written about on here but you're going to need to dig for them as I don't recall which ones specifically. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Charles96;2779035]You visited on a Sunday? In my experience Friday and Saturday evening is the best time. Especially from 7 pm onwards. I have a few service oriented and good looking ones under my belt, whenever I find myself close to that area, I know who to look for. And you'll see most of the windows open on Friday and Saturday.

But It's a definitely a hit or miss on other weekdays especially in this winter, and Sunday might be the same story.[/QUOTE]I went on a Tuesday btwn like 530-615 PM, near the end of December. Sounds like it was not the best time of day. When I'm in the country again, I'll have to try at the times you suggested. Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2778154]In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on.
So no luck. Maybe it was as others have suggested. Too early in the evening. Not sure. I hope others have better luck.[/QUOTE]Later is better. 10 pm to midnight. Sometimes I would wake up at 5:00 am, go there bleary eyed, and have a better selection than early evening. YMMV, it's hit or miss. Good if you live nearby, not sure I'the take a train there unless you like touring.

I left Justin Trudeau's shitty Canada and I'm back in Korea and I need a nice rimjob, but the places I used to go are no longer there. Where are the best places to go these days for a good old-fashioned rimjob, preferably with FS afterwards?

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2779748]Later is better. 10 pm to midnight. Sometimes I would wake up at 5:00 am, go there bleary eyed, and have a better selection than early evening. YMMV, it's hit or miss. Good if you live nearby, not sure I'the take a train there unless you like touring.[/QUOTE]Have you tried YDP?

I make a reservation at a new Hyugetel. I tell the boss I'm a foreigner, and I let him know that I'm Caucasian. Things seem to be going well.

He sends me an address and a map screenshot. Great. It's right down the street. It couldn't be more convenient.

I call upon arrival and ask for the room number. The boss speaks to me in English and I confirm what he says in Korean. He gets a kick out of this.

I make my way up to the room. The girl from the advert opens the door. She looks worried; she says no foreigners. I'm confused. I tell her I have an appointment. She doesn't change her mind.

I walk out. I call the boss. He apologizes. He says the girl said it would be OK but suddenly changed her mind. He says to call back another time. WTF.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2780180]Have you tried YDP?[/QUOTE]I walked through about a month ago. Posted last month. I had one who would take me, others mistook me for Korean and wouldn't take me when they realized who I was.

Hey guys, visiting Seoul for a couple hours before I take a train down to Busan to visit some family. I'm not very fluent in Korean (I look Korean though), and I've never been to Seoul before. Just wondering, is there a spa / quick place where I can just get a bang out, preferably bbfscip, that someone would recommend visiting?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2780296]I make a reservation at a new Hyugetel. I tell the boss I'm a foreigner, and I let him know that I'm Caucasian. Things seem to be going well.

He sends me an address and a map screenshot. Great. It's right down the street. It couldn't be more convenient.

I call upon arrival and ask for the room number. The boss speaks to me in English and I confirm what he says in Korean. He gets a kick out of this.

I make my way up to the room. The girl from the advert opens the door. She looks worried; she says no foreigners. I'm confused. I tell her I have an appointment. She doesn't change her mind.

I walk out. I call the boss. He apologizes. He says the girl said it would be OK but suddenly changed her mind. He says to call back another time. WTF.[/QUOTE]I know! It happens to me now and then. Sometimes you find an open-minded boss who doesn't mind having foreigners only to end up having to turn around cz the girl refused to burge. And other times you find bosses who don't want anything to do with foreign visitors despite the girls being foreigners themselves.

It can depend on the mood of both the boss and the girl and how business has been that day. You count it as a loss and come back another time for a second attempt.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2779437]After reading this I browsed some OP locations. Wish they had a more detailed page so you can search for specific things, but can't complain when its free. There's a few locations that have Vietnamese providers, found some in Suwon. [/QUOTE]How would you say about those in Suwon, it isn't far from Seoul. Have you tried to get into one them?

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2779436]Good to know, I thought it was all only 1 shot. I'll have to give it a try next time I'm up in Seoul and can get away. How is the interaction though? I know YMMV, but is it more misses than hits? Basically DFK, girl gets into a bit, etc. I know no one likes a starfish LOL.[/QUOTE]I never tried to attempt DFK at Miari but yeah, YMMV. I remember one who couldn't let me go until I made her finish, whether I used mouth, hands or whatever LOL, she was active and interesting! And then one who wanted me to just pump and finish ASAP so she can leave and complained the whole time about how big I am. Then after she told me to look for her next time wtf.

I could detect a starfish and just walk away. If the mamsan recommends or points at a girl among many in a room but she barely makes eye contact or even smile a bit, she's more likely to be a starfish.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2780671]How would you say about those in Suwon, it isn't far from Seoul. Have you tried to get into one them?[/QUOTE]Haven't tried them. Anything on the OP site, I usually go with my Korean friend, since he can complete the deal and they'll do the background check on him. Kinda messed up, but I like to stay off grid as much as possible and it's far easier for a korean than a waygook like most of us on here. We usually take turns paying, and just tell each other what ethnicity of "food" we're in the mood for LOL.

Also found a manager that was listed as NKorean during my browsing. That struck me as odd, I mean...what's the difference in pussy between North and South? I'm sure only Dennis Rodman could tell us that, but sadly he is no longer with us. (Sorry if I offended any hardcore fans on here)

[QUOTE=Charles96;2780679]I never tried to attempt DFK at Miari but yeah, YMMV. I remember one who couldn't let me go until I made her finish, whether I used mouth, hands or whatever LOL, she was active and interesting! And then one who wanted me to just pump and finish ASAP so she can leave and complained the whole time about how big I am. Then after she told me to look for her next time wtf.

I could detect a starfish and just walk away. If the mamsan recommends or points at a girl among many in a room but she barely makes eye contact or even smile a bit, she's more likely to be a starfish.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, it'll be helpful for everyone to now certain signs before wasting money and time on a bad session. That's terrible salesmanship on the ASAP girl LOL. Did you get the contact info for the girl that held you hostage, sounds like she would be a good repeat.

[QUOTE=BluePillow;2780650]Hey guys, visiting Seoul for a couple hours before I take a train down to Busan to visit some family. I'm not very fluent in Korean (I look Korean though), and I've never been to Seoul before. Just wondering, is there a spa / quick place where I can just get a bang out, preferably bbfscip, that someone would recommend visiting?[/QUOTE]Seoul Station and bbfscip? Good luck. Old hands like myself would hop in a taxi and head to Itaewon and Hooker Hill (about 10 min / 10,000 won). I get bbfscip there, but you may or may not. Other than that, maybe someone knows a huge tel to help you out.

I'm heading to Seoul in a couple of months for a work trip. Having read a bunch of the reviews here, it isn't clear what areas would accept a white foreigner who can't speak Korean and which wouldn't.

Seems like best bet is probably Hooker Hill for a foreigner. But I'd love to hit up a massage place or a kiss bar but those seem much harder. Any other advice for this?

I can confirm that Korean staffed OPs continue to refuse westerners. On a recent fact finding mission, I called nearly every OP that charges the standard 140,000 won plus at price, and I was shot down by every single one. One establishment even told me, quite specifically, that, 'We are sorry, but we do not accept western customers. '.

Is MR the best place to find independant escorts for Seoul?

Maybe I am just not doing enough research, but seems like extremely small amount of options in Korea for foreigners, at least at the moment.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2783204]I can confirm that Korean staffed OPs continue to refuse westerners. On a recent fact finding mission, I called nearly every OP that charges the standard 140,000 won plus at price, and I was shot down by every single one. One establishment even told me, quite specifically, that, 'We are sorry, but we do not accept western customers. '.[/QUOTE]Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2781467]Thanks for the info, it'll be helpful for everyone to now certain signs before wasting money and time on a bad session. That's terrible salesmanship on the ASAP girl LOL. Did you get the contact info for the girl that held you hostage, sounds like she would be a good repeat.[/QUOTE]It's been sometime since I last visited, I had replaced it with gunmas where I get myself a full massage and service at the same price. Unfortunately, I didn't get her contact info and since they're always inside it might take two to three checks to find her again but surely she makes me want to give miari another visit one of these days whenever I get reminded of the session with her. She left me a tired man LOL.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2783345]Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.[/QUOTE]Very pathetic!. Having spent much time here, I'm still yet to getting used to the idea of begging a working girl to take your money LOL. That was a new concept to me until I landed here a few years ago.

Over the years, I've gone into those massage parlors with the swirley barber poles where they gave me massages and either jerkjobs or full on sex. But sometimes I've heard dudes in other rooms / booths snoring. After pumping out, is it cool to just pull get under the blanket and snooze for the night and leave the next morning? If so, does that cost extra?

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2783345]Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's a moral issue.

From what I understand, prostitution in Korea is simply an inward looking industry. There are so many wealthy Korean mongers that they don't need to cater to foreigners. Furthermore, nobody wants foreigners getting involved in illegal activity. And perhaps more importantly, no one wants Korea to become a sex tourist destination. In fact, the government has spent a lot of money to promote a squeaky clean image to the rest of the world.

I should add that the women obviously don't consider the reasons above when deciding to reject customers. I'm sure the image Korea portrays to the world is the furthest thing from their mind. Their reasons to avoid foreign customers are language and culture. Dealing with foreigners is simply an added hassle, and considering that they already have as much business as they would like, the women don't benefit in the slightest by squeezing in another round with a foreigner.

To put it another way, there's more demand than supply. I asked one of the Thai women at a hyugetel how many customers she services in a day. Her reply was that she calls it quits after 4 or 5 customers. In other words, she controls how much she works and she gets more than she can handle.

Her response led me to believe that young Korean women, who charge substantially more for the same service, must meet even fewer customers.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2783345]Pretty pathetic where girls are doing one of the most demeaning jobs from a society point of view who are acting stuck up on their high horse pretending they have morals lmfao.[/QUOTE]True they work in 3 D jobs with the 'D' in all caps, but it doesn't mean they want to be reminded of it. Theyre still women and they want to maintain at least a shred of dignity. Besides, like the previous poster mentioned, they've got more customers than can shake a stick at, so we need them far more than they need us.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2783863]True they work in 3 D jobs with the 'D' in all caps, but it doesn't mean they want to be reminded of it. Theyre still women and they want to maintain at least a shred of dignity. Besides, like the previous poster mentioned, they've got more customers than can shake a stick at, so we need them far more than they need us.[/QUOTE]Shread of dignity? LOL. By rejecting foreigners who they claim are dirty to open their legs for drunken Korean men who just threw up on the sidewalk around the corner?? Yeah. They have lot if dignity LOL.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2757702]I've met Bella and Christina. Neither were quite my type but their pictures are mostly accurate, except that Bella has MUCH browner skin than in her touched-up pics. Maybe that's a irrelevant for you but it is worth mentioning.[/QUOTE]Christina meaning the half Russian / Asian girl with the really explicit title? Saw her ad but seemed like a lot of warning flags on that posting. She looks hot tho so if she's real might have to reach out.

Hello Everyone. Am new to Korea / Incheon.

Staying in Incheon.

Would appreciate if someone could recommend good places in Incheon.

Only have a few days here and would not want to spend it on learning with bad experiences.

Am non Korean with no Korean language skills.

1. Do these Anmas / Kiss places / Hyugetel operate till morning?

2. Do hotels here have concern with female visitors?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2783868]Shread of dignity? LOL. By rejecting foreigners who they claim are dirty to open their legs for drunken Korean men who just threw up on the sidewalk around the corner?? Yeah. They have lot if dignity LOL.[/QUOTE]Especially considering how much AR people have talked about in the Korea forums specifically, including myself. Sometimes the same women that lick Korean men's anuses refuse to even give physically fit foreigners a handjob because that's less dignified than licking poopholes of old fat guys who happen to be Korean.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2784267]Especially considering how much AR people have talked about in the Korea forums specifically, including myself. Sometimes the same women that lick Korean men's anuses refuse to even give physically fit foreigners a handjob because that's less dignified than licking poopholes of old fat guys who happen to be Korean.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

Guess the hookers have dreams of riding in these same old mens black Hyundai Granduers.

[QUOTE=QCryptic;2783956]Christina meaning the half Russian / Asian girl with the really explicit title? Saw her ad but seemed like a lot of warning flags on that posting. She looks hot tho so if she's real might have to reach out.[/QUOTE]Her ad was explicit back when I saw her but seems to have gotten even grosser lately. I wasn't into her because she was doing a lot of dirty talk during the act to the point where it was distracting. Her pics are accurate though and her body is great. Face just OK but not bad. Could be a good experience if you're up for it.

In a new Hyugetel advert I spotted a woman that I had met at another location two years earlier. Since she worked there, I figured this new place would respond favorably to a request to book an appointment. Thankfully they did, and so I made an appointment. The woman remembered me and she let me know that I remain the only foreign customer she has ever met in Korea.

The first time she serviced me she was good, but on this more recent visit, she was great. She gave a great blow job with a full deep throat experience and also sucked my balls and rimmed me. And she did all of this willfully and happily. She was also fully on board for DATY and DFK. To top it off, she was very attentive to my needs which she showed by blowing my cock and sucking my balls between every position change. To sum up, the experience was everything I had hoped it would be.

30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777069]Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.

Itaewon, The Hill:

Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.

Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.

O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.

Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much.

Ambrosia: This place looks like it's closed as there was a wall of boxes and garbage in front of their front door. Was really looking forward to trying this place out, only blame myself for waiting too damn long. If anyone knows where it moved to, please PM me. Wanted to try the freaky young Thai girl from here.

Texas: 2 ladies working that night. Went with the one who didn't look like a doll, a bit heavier but still decent. BBBJ then transitioned to a CBJ, 80 k. I like that she was slurping on it, the sound effects were just arousing LOL.

Went into the Grand Ole Opry bar and turns out its just a regular bar full of foreigners LOL was expecting it to be seedy and have some freelancers.

Don't know if anyone has tried Tiffany's, Apple, CC Bar, Candy Bar or the massage parlor on the 3rd floor across from Candy Bar / Apple all on that same road. But with all the Trans bars there, wouldn't be surprised if some of these I hadn't ventured into yet are Trans bars.
[/QUOTE]I've given the hill a visit today as I had enough free time in the evenings and at around 8 to 9 pm most of these bars like Pandora, Texas, Nymph, O2, Tiffany's had no signs of operating. All lights were off Probably cz it's a weekday or something ain't sure. Around three doors at the top of the hill where bean and her friend works at green bar or something and one up the hill corner had lights on were welcome to mongers.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2783690]Over the years, I've gone into those massage parlors with the swirley barber poles where they gave me massages and either jerkjobs or full on sex. But sometimes I've heard dudes in other rooms / booths snoring. After pumping out, is it cool to just pull get under the blanket and snooze for the night and leave the next morning? If so, does that cost extra?[/QUOTE]I've never partaken in it, but its been offered to me numerous times. I don't believe it costs extra, might just depend on how many available beds there are and the time of night. Some thai places offer it too, but usually only if you pay for one of the more expensive courses.

Got in a Hyugetel at Gangnam that seems to specialize in big breasted women. Booked an appointment with a very good looking lady. She didn't match the photo on the advertisement, but she matched the description. True to their word, she was short and slender with big fake tits and a very cute face.

She had only been in Korea for one month and had all the hallmarks of a beginner. She was young at only 23, timid, and didn't talk much. She also didn't seem excited to be penetrated, nor was she willing to put on an act.

On the bright side, she never complained, and when she realized I would take it slow, she let her guard down and fully spread her legs. Although she didn't make much eye contact, nor was she up for DFK, she was extremely tight, didn't require any lube, gave a good sloppy BJ, and knew how to use her hands.

After I pulled out and cleaned up, she relaxed a bit more and wanted to talk, but at that point I wasn't looking for conversation.

50 min bbfscip 120,000.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2766760]Been way too long but I'm back!

Have not been mongering much in anmas but GAIN (seems to be closed)

My quick MR writeup as an update:

- Elle you can two shot in the hour for 300,000 incall, her location moves according to her hotel and I think she is independent. Verified over video call too.

- Nami / Kitty seems to be friends and it seems that they are both legit. Kitty just 50 cheaper. Not sure on service but have not tried.

Has anyone seen punpun or Diana on MR? Trying to see them as well .[/QUOTE]Saw Nami on my last Seoul visit. Solid experience. Really great body. Inline with other posts, service a bit mechanical.

Debating between Elle or Bella for my next booking. Any advice? Both seem to be legit. (Slightly leaning towards Elle based on the profile photos but please let me know if service isn't great!

Field report.

Went looking for Kiss Bangs in Sillim yesterday. No success again. Either most of them have shut down or are not in plain sight. Spent 2 hours looking for each and every location given in umap (visited each location twice to be sure). Only exception was HERA, which is easy to locate. However they said there are no managers (girls) available. Lost hope with Sillim.

Subsequently went to K+ in Hongdae (Date * K). About 20 min Subway ride from Silim. Get down at Hongik university subway. Exit Gate 3. Look for Mega Coffee (About 150 meters walk). L7 hotel comes on the way. Black door on right of Mega Coffee takes you to basement. Ring bell and get entry. They have no constrain on foreigners. Paid 60 k for 30 min. Had reached at about 7. 30 pm and all rooms seemed occupied. About 6-8 rooms. Asked to brush my teeth.

K+ has small room, which has a single bed having leather top. A young girl entered. Very beautiful. Might be early 20's and like a Korean model. Would be 9/10 as per North American standard. She asked straight away if I was looking for any services (HJ / BJ) or not. That put me off as I can get that in Anma and was visiting Kiss bang for GFE. I declined and she went out to fetch another girl.

Next girl comes. She might be late 20's and a little on healthy side (not heavy but voluptous). 8/10 as per NA standard. She was beautiful and knew good English. Her english skill made experience great. Her name is Guru (if I got it right). Her attitude was awesome and typical Girl next door. She was wearing a black dress (like a robe upto knees). Action started. Lots of hugs and DFK for 10 min. Hands were allowed to roam. Then she asked if I am interested in extras and that we should start deed. HJ is 50 and BJ is 100. I opted for HJ and she completed the act while kissing me throughout. She wrapped up once the act was done. Total stay of about 15-20 min.

I got exactly what I was looking for. Not sure if I got lucky with beautiful girls. Would recommend others to visit as well, if looking for GFE.

My next goal is to visit Anma and share learnings.

[QUOTE=KMonkey1978;2786419]Saw Nami on my last Seoul visit. Solid experience. Really great body. Inline with other posts, service a bit mechanical.

Debating between Elle or Bella for my next booking. Any advice? Both seem to be legit. (Slightly leaning towards Elle based on the profile photos but please let me know if service isn't great![/QUOTE]I agree, I liked Nami's greatly curved body and pretty face but service was more on the mechanical sid. Elena (Russian) was the best GFE I've ever had on MR but as someone else noted here before, her pics on MR aren't accurate tho personally I wasn't disappointed.

As for kitty I considered her back when she was still new and charging just 200 K, I think now she gets enough customers that her rate is now standard 300 K. Her pics seems legit, great body with nice tattoo tho her face doesn't attract me that much.

Haven't seen Bella but if you look into some recent previous posts, someone gave his opinion of her on here just of recent.

[QUOTE=SeekingFun2;2786543]Field report.

Went looking for Kiss Bangs in Sillim yesterday. No success again. Either most of them have shut down or are not in plain sight. Spent 2 hours looking for each and every location given in umap (visited each location twice to be sure). Only exception was HERA, which is easy to locate. However they said there are no managers (girls) available. Lost hope with Sillim.

Subsequently went to K+ in Hongdae (Date * K). About 20 min Subway ride from Silim. Get down at Hongik university subway. Exit Gate 3. Look for Mega Coffee (About 150 meters walk). L7 hotel comes on the way. Black door on right of Mega Coffee takes you to basement. Ring bell and get entry. They have no constrain on foreigners. Paid 60 k for 30 min. Had reached at about 7. 30 pm and all rooms seemed occupied. About 6-8 rooms. Asked to brush my teeth.

K+ has small room, which has a single bed having leather top. A young girl entered. Very beautiful. Might be early 20's and like a Korean model. Would be 9/10 as per North American standard. She asked straight away if I was looking for any services (HJ / BJ) or not. That put me off as I can get that in Anma and was visiting Kiss bang for GFE. I declined and she went out to fetch another girl.

Next girl comes. She might be late 20's and a little on healthy side (not heavy but voluptous). 8/10 as per NA standard. She was beautiful and knew good English. Her english skill made experience great. Her name is Guru (if I got it right). Her attitude was awesome and typical Girl next door. She was wearing a black dress (like a robe upto knees). Action started. Lots of hugs and DFK for 10 min. Hands were allowed to roam. Then she asked if I am interested in extras and that we should start deed. HJ is 50 and BJ is 100. I opted for HJ and she completed the act while kissing me throughout. She wrapped up once the act was done. Total stay of about 15-20 min.

I got exactly what I was looking for. Not sure if I got lucky with beautiful girls. Would recommend others to visit as well, if looking for GFE.

My next goal is to visit Anma and share learnings.[/QUOTE]I've heard good things about this Hongdae kissbang for a while now about having no problem with foreigners. Having had many mechanicals in a while, I'm in need of some good GFE atleast once or twice. Will give it a visit sooner than later. Thanks for the report and clear directions.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2786873]I agree, I liked Nami's greatly curved body and pretty face but service was more on the mechanical sid. Elena (Russian) was the best GFE I've ever had on MR but as someone else noted here before, her pics on MR aren't accurate tho personally I wasn't disappointed.[/QUOTE]Pictures aren't accurate, but how different are they? I assume it is still a caucasian Russian lady at least right?

[QUOTE=Charles96;2786873]I agree, I liked Nami's greatly curved body and pretty face but service was more on the mechanical sid. Elena (Russian) was the best GFE I've ever had on MR but as someone else noted here before, her pics on MR aren't accurate tho personally I wasn't disappointed.

As for kitty I considered her back when she was still new and charging just 200 K, I think now she gets enough customers that her rate is now standard 300 K. Her pics seems legit, great body with nice tattoo tho her face doesn't attract me that much.

Haven't seen Bella but if you look into some recent previous posts, someone gave his opinion of her on here just of recent.[/QUOTE]Okay in the end went for Bella given previous feedback here - 2 hours at her place.

Overall a very solid experience and I would recommend. Although the price is not a steal.

A few more details:

1. Very voluptuous natural figure. More Latina than Asian in character with lots of curves to grab onto.

2. Not mechanical at all. Definitely more of a date feel to the time.

3. Although I only do covered FS my sense is BBFS2 CIA or COF on the table.

4. In fact she prefers anal and COF (The only comment is she steers the session towards her preference (Eg great BBBJ but not nearly as long as I would have liked) and once she came she wasn't as into sex on the second round. (This is actually a GFE experience!

Among the limited options a very solid choice. Would repeat although will probably try another on my next trip.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777069]Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.

Itaewon, The Hill:

Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.

Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.

O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.

Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much..[/QUOTE]Nana indeed is the only person in Pandora. She works when she wants, and said she doesn't want the drama of working with someone else. She's been at this job since at least 2004, but is still one of the better looking ones. I remember the days when she used to be difficult to get 20 minutes with. She was sh*t hot in her early 20's.

The bar at the top of the Hill, which I believe is the XO you speak of (I forget what name it's changed to these days) has a nice loft above the bar area, right? Last I knew, there were 2 girls working there. It's been a few months ago, but Nayoun / Nayoung? Is the mamasan. The 2 girls are both 40's and not bad looking for their age, but they barely seem to open anymore unless it's very late / early morning, and I'm not about to make a trip there without knowing they are around. There is a somewhat tanned 40 ish year-old named Eunee with small boobs but decent body who sometimes works there or at Tiffany's (when she isn't fired by the owner). I have a thing for Eunee, so I usually hook up with her and blow a load into or on her whenever I happen to see her working. Sometimes in summer she hangs out on her own near the cheap hotel around the K-bap place below the Hill. There is / was another girl named Lee working in the same place. She's from Busan, and is cute but a bit worn out also at least 40's. Done that, too.

Ambrosia is done. Roof caved in. Same with VIP. Condemned due to water damage, etc.

The Hill has become dirty, so I rarely go.

Hey guys. What are the best places to visit when looking for young girls in their early 20's? What are the best websites for escort service? Any info on avg price range would also be appreciated.

[QUOTE=QCryptic;2787048]Pictures aren't accurate, but how different are they? I assume it is still a caucasian Russian lady at least right?[/QUOTE]Yep, definitely Caucasian Russian if you're into that. Turns out she doesn't want her pics all over the internet but she's actually a fine Russian girl. I think she fooled MR verification by using pics that are somehow similar to her body shape.

She knows her way in the sex world and her massage after action is a must recieve!. Her teasing, sloppy BBJ, DFK is something I hadn't gotten before in over 3 yrs with these MR girls. I had planned to go one round but ended up asking for more LOL.

According to those I've met and some reviews I've read over here, I could say that these will be my go to MR girls for now if nothing changes.

Elena Russian (Met her and definitely recommend).

Valentina (Not yet but she's pretty and have good reviews, service oriented).

Belle (Not yet but I've read good recommendations here and on MR).

NanaVIP (hope she comes back soon).

Riko Japanese (may be).

Nami (Met her, great curves, pretty face, young).

Kitty (don't know! Probably in future).

Met several others on MR but nothing to write home really!

Had a disappointing Sunday.

I am a South East Asian by origin. Do not know Korean at all. Anmas have a policy against foreigners.

DONUT.

Search for MAYA MOTEL in Seolleung on NAVER for location. OR 43 Seollung-ro 92-gil.

Exit Gate 10.

Wall has DONUT written in English in big Capital letters. Visited there but entry was restricted for foreigners and was shown notice on wall (Foreigners not allowed). Tried Singapore card but was denied.

FISH:

Search for following video on you tube "Guide to BPM entertainment building". Guy shows exactly how to reach there.

From Gangnam-gu office Exit2.

Same outcome again. Foreigners not allowed. SG did not work.

gain:

Went to their original location. Gangnam-Gu Exit 3.

Search for "Gain massage" on Naver and it gives exact path.

Shop is closed. No one there to take you to new location.

New Location: Seollung-ro 92-gil. Walked the entire street but could not find Gain. At the end of street one can find DONUT.

Any directions for new gain location is appreciated.

Will try with Fish and DONUT once again before I leave Korea.

Happy mongering guys. Do let me know if someone (non Korean, non Japanese, non Chinese) got successful with Fish or DONUT in last couple of weeks. Keep sharing.

Hello.

I am visiting south Korea in March. This is my first visit. Can any kind soul guide me where can I get action in Seoul.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2787609]Yep, definitely Caucasian Russian if you're into that. Turns out she doesn't want her pics all over the internet but she's actually a fine Russian girl. I think she fooled MR verification by using pics that are somehow similar to her body shape.

She knows her way in the sex world and her massage after action is a must recieve!. Her teasing, sloppy BBJ, DFK is something I hadn't gotten before in over 3 yrs with these MR girls. I had planned to go one round but ended up asking for more LOL.

According to those I've met and some reviews I've read over here, I could say that these will be my go to MR girls for now if nothing changes.

Elena Russian (Met her and definitely recommend).[/QUOTE]How many shots did you get? Did she upcharge you?

I'd highly recommend both Bella and Valentina. DM me if you have questions.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2786875]I've heard good things about this Hongdae kissbang for a while now about having no problem with foreigners. Having had many mechanicals in a while, I'm in need of some good GFE atleast once or twice. Will give it a visit sooner than later. Thanks for the report and clear directions.[/QUOTE]Glad I was able to cpntribute to this forum. Please do not forget to share your exp. If you have any ANMA experience, do share.

[QUOTE=SeekingFun2;2788132]Had a disappointing Sunday.

I am a South East Asian by origin. Do not know Korean at all. Anmas have a policy against foreigners.

DONUT.

Search for MAYA MOTEL in Seolleung on NAVER for location. OR 43 Seollung-ro 92-gil.

Exit Gate 10.

Wall has DONUT written in English in big Capital letters. Visited there but entry was restricted for foreigners and was shown notice on wall (Foreigners not allowed). Tried Singapore card but was denied.

FISH:

Search for following video on you tube "Guide to BPM entertainment building". Guy shows exactly how to reach there.

From Gangnam-gu office Exit2.

Same outcome again. Foreigners not allowed. SG did not work.

gain:

Went to their original location. Gangnam-Gu Exit 3.

Search for "Gain massage" on Naver and it gives exact path.

Shop is closed. No one there to take you to new location.

New Location: Seollung-ro 92-gil. Walked the entire street but could not find Gain. At the end of street one can find DONUT.

Any directions for new gain location is appreciated.

Will try with Fish and DONUT once again before I leave Korea.

Happy mongering guys. Do let me know if someone (non Korean, non Japanese, non Chinese) got successful with Fish or DONUT in last couple of weeks. Keep sharing.[/QUOTE]I have similar experiences as you. I am ethnically korean. But born raised in Canada. I speak semi- passable korean and they still reject me! But like many said. If you go with someone who is actually from Korea, then they will probably let you in. Then hopefully they remember you for the next time you come alone. But they have short memory.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2788230]How many shots did you get? Did she upcharge you?

I'd highly recommend both Bella and Valentina. DM me if you have questions.[/QUOTE]Yah, Second shot was 50 or 70 K I don't remember well but there was an upcharge. I read here that Valentina upcharges 100 K for a second shot as well. Thanks for your recommendation.

[QUOTE=SeekingFun2;2788241]Glad I was able to cpntribute to this forum. Please do not forget to share your exp. If you have any ANMA experience, do share.[/QUOTE]There's lots of ANMA experiences here in previous posts but personally I haven't explored that space again ever since I was denied entrance in FISH anma once last year and some other one in Gangnam area.

Some guys here have had their share of luck but it ain't me. Probably be East Asian or look Korean with perfect pronunciation for better chances.

You reported a sign notice of "No foreigners" at GAIN, Now it seems they're tired of talking LOL. But for reports, use search option to look into previous experiences of senior mongers. Goodluck!

Who knows where to get a Thai massage for under 50 000 won without making a reservation?

On the massage websites a lot of places offer cheap Thai massages but when you go there you can't get a massage at that price.

Today I went to King Thai Watpho in Hongdae. It's been reviewed here before. The website Massage Map advertises 35 k won weekday and 40 k evenings / weekends. I turn up and the woman behind the counter explained that's only if I call in advance. But I have a phone phobia So I walked out. Instead of paying an extra 10-20 k to the front desk for the legit massage I'd rather give that to the SP in the room during the negotiation for extras.

Also: last week I checked out a Vietnamese massage place in an alley southeast of Jonggak station, near Jongno. I saw it on a website but forget which one now. The name in Korean was something like Vietnam therapy. On the third floor of a narrow old office building in a smsll street where there are many food and drink places. My hopes went up when I went inside because the place was staffed by 2 Vietnamese women and nobody else and the girl who massaged me had a big chest. Basic massage is 80 k. But no hint of any extras!! No playful moving of junk or asking me about service. It just ended and she walked out. Maybe she wasn't in the mood or didn't like me. Has anyone had a different experience? I don't think I'll go back.

Another Yeongdeungpo rld recommendation if you're okay with slightly older women.

Directly opposite of the alley, the one with the old ladies in small booths, right in front, there's an amazon woman in a glass house. Big squishy silicone boobs, pink nipples, fit body. Think her hair is dyed auburn. She wears a pink or white tight dress, ass cheeks hanging out sometimes. Quite chatty in Korean. But you have to go up to her and ask, she won't call you. On the right of her, next door to that house, is the tan blond girl I mentioned before. If you want anything specifically you should negotiate. The service at this rld is mostly mechanical, unless you negotiate and they get to know you.

Comparatively she is quite a lot older to myself. Told me she was mid-late 30's. Might not consider that old, but at least she's not flabby and raggedy.

Met with MR Yuri Chicha, Jasmine VIP, and Saori. They're here together at the same hotel. They were giving a 400 k for 3 deal. Ended up going for Yuri and I recommend her.

They are all the girls in their pictures but:

Saori. Skin is a bit darker brown than her photos. Didn't speak much. Maybe her feet seemed bigger than a normal girl. Got me suspicious.

Jasmine. Much bigger than her photos. Not terrible but very thick and big face. Very talkative. Was getting similar suspicious vibes.

Yuri. Was in a seperate room. Looked way better than her photos. Not nearly as skinny, in a good way. She was a lot more womanly shaped, meaty ass and thighs. Silicone chest bigger and better than expected. Cute face. Nice skin. Asked her to surprise me. Dressed up, while was in the shower and did role play. Did all positions without worrying about the time. Some of you here like GFE, she tries hard. A bit over the top, but some might be into it.

Don't usually recommend on MR, however the experience was fresh. Yuri was young, cute face, hot bod. Hit the spot. A little too tight, especially at first, was the only con.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2790287]Met with MR Yuri Chicha, Jasmine VIP, and Saori. They're here together at the same hotel. They were giving a 400 k for 3 deal. Ended up going for Yuri and I recommend her.[/QUOTE]I'm curious how you found out they were here together? Had no idea and I even met with Yuri LOL.

Anyway I saw Yuri recently too and also Bella, so ill add some contribution.

Yuri. Cutesy type, pretty smile and her body has a nice shape, not just super thin. Not very talkative but really GFE lots of DFK. Would recommend. She tried her best to get me to pop a 2nd time but wasn't happening, not for lack of effort on her part. Oh and she may have fake tits, but they are nice ones not super hard. Was able to deep throat me a bit too.

Bella. For me, was not the best experience. I think she forgot about our meeting had me wait a while before sending me up after I arrived. No make up on, seemed sorta unprepared. Mouth didn't seem very fresh. However, if it is a PSE you want she is the girl. She prefers anal and lots of dirty talk. I wasn't able to finish due to my expectation vs reality and a couple other reasons. Because I didn't finish she actually told me I can come back and fuck her for free, I don't know if that would actually happen if I tried, but I don't think I will try it takes me a long time to get to her area. Overall, I do think she is what is advertised. A real nympho who will give you a PSE so if that is what you want I would still recommend her.

[QUOTE=QCryptic;2790434]I'm curious how you found out they were here together? Had no idea and I even met with Yuri LOL.[/QUOTE]When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2790640]When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.[/QUOTE]Can anyone tell me how to find "MR"? Is it an advertisement in this place?

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[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2790640]When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.[/QUOTE]How much did that cost you??

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2790640]When I messaged Yuri that I was on my way, she suggested a threesome. I declined and then she offered a foursome with all three of them. I met them all at one of their hotel rooms. Then Yuri took me to her room, which was right next door.[/QUOTE]Was this at a hotel with a name starting with T and ending in a vowel, location near Yeoksam Station?

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2790991]Was this at a hotel with a name starting with T and ending in a vowel, location near Yeoksam Station?[/QUOTE]No, the hotel doesn't match the one you're describing and Yeoksam Station was not the closest station.

Went to this previously talked about Thai massage place in Hongdae tonight. TBH I didn't go in very confident so if they were to give anyone a mediocre masseuse I think it would have been me. But that wasn't the case. The girl I got was pretty cute seemed to be in her 20's, but very little English.

90 minute massage, I was shown 3 options I just picked the most expensive one at 80 k since I figure that gets you best results probably. I cannot give a fair objective review about the massage because this is actually the first massage I've ever got. However, it seemed pretty solid to me and the massage itself was about 60 minutes including lots of touching down there.

After the flip I was given the 'service' options: HJ with no touching 30 k, second one I couldn't fully understand, and CFS for 100 k. Went with the CFS since she was cute but honestly would have been happy enough with just the HJ. I think I'll visit again and stick with the HJ unless the connection with the girl is good.

So I'll be going this summer to Seoul for about a week. Looking to do some massages as well as maybe a RLD if they are still going by then, and I will do some sightseeing of the city since I've never been before.

Any recommendations of what area to stay in or good hotels as far as nice places and good areas? I am probably looking in the $100-$250 per night range.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2788733]Another Yeongdeungpo rld recommendation if you're okay with slightly older women.

Directly opposite of the alley, the one with the old ladies in small booths, right in front, there's an amazon woman in a glass house. Big squishy silicone boobs, pink nipples, fit body. Think her hair is dyed auburn. She wears a pink or white tight dress, ass cheeks hanging out sometimes. Quite chatty in Korean. But you have to go up to her and ask, she won't call you. On the right of her, next door to that house, is the tan blond girl I mentioned before. If you want anything specifically you should negotiate. The service at this rld is mostly mechanical, unless you negotiate and they get to know you.

Comparatively she is quite a lot older to myself. Told me she was mid-late 30's. Might not consider that old, but at least she's not flabby and raggedy.[/QUOTE]Do you have any reports on Miari lately?

Has anyone met Lenore or Diana from MR recently?

22 Sejongdaero, Junggu.

There is a pharmacy at the 1st floor of the building.

Kiss bang is at the 3rd floor.

There is an outside sign of the kiss bang.

The sign is partially English.

Look for RED K in pink and red colors.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Zipp0;2770406]Any to be found in Jung-Gu / Namdaemun area? What signs should I look for?

I have done the MR thing but wanted to try something different. I am only in Korea for a couple more days. One day I will get the courage to ask my Korean work counterparts to take me out for a fun night. Would they think me odd, or is that fairly normal for them? Nobody has ever offered to take me and I have been to Korea often over the years. Maybe they would be afraid to offend me?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Proprietary;2792768]Has anyone met Lenore or Diana from MR recently?[/QUOTE]I met with Lenore a couple times when her ad was first up. The pics were accurate then. Unfortunately, I met with her about a year later and she gained significant weight. I have not seen her since, but I would say do not expect her body to look like the photos. She does have a nice attitude and is good company with totally fluent English.

I never met Diana but I'm also curious if anyone has any info.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2793698]I met with a couple times when her ad was first up. The pics were accurate then. Unfortunately, I met with her about a year later and she gained significant weight. I have not seen her since, but I would say do not expect her body to look like the photos. She does have a nice attitude and is good company with totally fluent English.

I never met but I'm also curious if anyone has any info.[/QUOTE]Is she a little thicker or would she be considered fat at this point? Would you recommend her at the weight you last scene her at?

This is the best video I have ever seen of this place. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWKwAP0c4jY[/URL].

[QUOTE=Proprietary;2793923]Is she a little thicker or would she be considered fat at this point? Would you recommend her at the weight you last scene her at?[/QUOTE]It's already been over a year since last time I saw her. I remember that she had gained weight to the point that her face looked quite different. She really wasn't a sexy girl like before. She wasn't fat though. For all I know at this point she could have gained even more or gone back down to where she used to be. I would recommend one of the less expensive MR girls over her. If you do see her, please report what she looks like these days. Good luck!

Hi everyone,

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I just moved here. I'm Korean but can't speak Korean well enough. Can anyone help me get into a hyugetel in Mokdong? I'll get you a time with a manager.

Thanks!

Met with 2 other MR girls.

Elena. Her profile got flagged because she uses fake pictures as mentioned here before. I still decided to see her since others reported she is real and similar to the pictures. I can confirm she looks pretty good, you can see her age in her face a bit but she's a very slim Russian lady, with shortish shoulder length hair. Service was good overall not over the top GFE but decent. She likes to sort of control the flow of things and she more or less stopped the actual sex when she was tired of it, which to be fair I was going pretty long having issues finishing. Probably wouldn't repeat personally I felt the chemistry was just off between us. Did 2 shots, but also I booked 2 hours (550 k).

Jace. Jace's profile is quite old now (6 years?) and I didn't see any recent reviews for her. But I wanted to see a Korean girl while I am in Korea so I reached out. Took a day to get a response, I'm not sure how much she is working these days, but we did schedule a session. She sent me a recent pic during our communications and it was pretty accurate. She's genuine. Best way I can describe her look is just pretty much a normal 30 year old (I assume) Korean girl (without plastic surgery). You can also see her age in her face a bit, but overall she is pretty and not fat. I was surprised how shy she seemed for someone who has done this 5+ years, but once we got into it the service was good. With her it is better to take the lead. Good GFE with lots of kissing. She asked to take the CFS slow, not just a rough pounding. Good session overall with the one sort of large caveat that she started packing after 45 minutes. To be fair I didn't fight her on it and was sort of done myself too, but I do prefer for girls to stay the whole time. I think she would stay the hour if you were more firm on it, but I wouldn't expect a round 2. Booked 1 hour for 300 k. Oh and her English is really good.

One thing that puts me off on MR is how many obviously trans there are on the "female escorts" section in Seoul.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2795058]One thing that puts me off on MR is how many obviously trans there are on the "female escorts" section in Seoul.[/QUOTE]Which current SPs at MR look obv trans to you? I can never be sure. That and the prices have kept me making any MR appointments.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2795079]Which current SPs at MR look obv trans to you? I can never be sure. That and the prices have kept me making any MR appointments.[/QUOTE]Without naming names, I'll just say that two SPs in the female escort section of Seoul have videos. They're both Asian. One appears to be legit female, but she doesn't speak during the video. The other one speaks in their video. This SP's photos were causing air raid sirens to go off from the get-go, but this SP's voice pretty much confirms the suspicions unless I'm mistaken. And I very well could be wrong here, but I doubt it. I'll add that there was another one that's no longer listed in the Seoul section that was heavily reviewed both on here and on MR that looked female in their photos but upon arrival at their apartment had a voice a lot like the one in that video, which caught me off guard and made it a wasted trip. In the past, I've always gone to massage parlors, waxing salons, and RLDs where I can speak with the SP to get a better feel of the situation and to make a more informed judgment call right there. I haven't seen anyone at massage parlors, waxing salons, or RLDs in Korea that didn't seem 100% female. That being said, I've never been into a Thai massage parlor despite there being several in my town. It seems like most if not all of the suspicious ones on MR are immigrants. The Manila section of MR, from first glance, appears to be even worse for having suspicious listings in the female section.

Any up to date recommendations for pickups for overnight?

What's the current situation in eg hotel bars? Any viable options?

Few years ago I think Hyatt used to have a few hanging around. But need a post Covid update.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2795115]I'll add that there was another one that's no longer listed in the Seoul section that was heavily reviewed both on here and on MR[/QUOTE]Well I believe I know who you are talking about, and I can agree they are somewhat questionable. To me though, if it is to the point that it is hard to even tell then I really couldn't care less. She was hot and looked like a woman, had a great time. If it turns out her was trans then neat, I'd sort of like to know to check that off the checklist LOL.

Anyone have a report for Lyly on MR? Older blonde who is supposedly Italian? Do you think she looks to be what she says she is? Fee is only 100. Thoughts? Any red flags or past history I should know about? She does answer locally.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2795808]Anyone have a report for Lyly on MR? Older blonde who is supposedly Italian? Do you think she looks to be what she says she is? Fee is only 100. Thoughts? Any red flags or past history I should know about? She does answer locally.[/QUOTE]No experience with her but yesterday a new ad appeared for a 42 year old Belgium woman with the name Williams. Her text and price is exactly the same. Either they work together or travel together or it's a scam somehow.
The photos used in both ads are American pornstars LillyJamesxxx and Dee Wlliams. It's unlikrly that they would come to korea and be available for meetings at those prices so I am concluding both ads are scams.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2747433]I tried to go on Sunday but there was a note on the door with a number. I texted it looking for an appointment but got a reply that none were available.

Afterwards I headed to the one mentioned on this forum that's across the street from L7 Hongdae. There's an English letter K sign and it's on the second floor. Paid 100 k for an hour, and twenty minutes after I brushed my teeth a hot 22 year old Korean came in. She immediately offered me 50 k for HJ, 100 for BJ, and 200 for FS. Took her up on the BJ. Service was good, we made out and she took off her top and let me play with her boobs first. CIM and she spit into a cup then used the mouthwash that was right there. I think next time I'll opt for 30 min+FS.

Absolutely no issue with me being a white guy. Door girl even spoke basic English. Girl in the room and I only conversed in Korean. The shop is moving in October to underneath the coffee place around the corner. See photo for the sign outside showing where they're going.[/QUOTE]Hey SomeGuy2988!

Just wanted to check if you recall what that phone number was? I'd like to make a booking before going. Thanks heaps!

Hey folks, anyone have the phone number or kakao for Hot Date Kiss Room / Bang in Sillim? I'd like to make a booking before going in. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2795897]No experience with her but yesterday a new ad appeared for a 42 year old Belgium woman with the name Williams. Her text and price is exactly the same. Either they work together or travel together or it's a scam somehow.
The photos used in both ads are American pornstars LillyJamesxxx and Dee Wlliams. It's unlikrly that they would come to korea and be available for meetings at those prices so I am concluding both ads are scams.[/QUOTE]Thanks!

Reported that. I am about done even looking at MR, anyway. All fakes and half are complete liars about orientation. Not to mentioned priced for suckers.

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Anyone know of any good English-friendly kiss room or lip cafe in Gangnam? I'm east Asian. Thanks!

If you walk the whole way on the only side with houses, across from the outdoor parking lot, there's a glass house on the corner before the street turns. Both that house and the one on the turn has 2 or 3 girls that accept foreigners. A girl with probably C cups and a cobra tattoo going from collar down to hip and thigh offered no con. Can't say about the service since I didn't take.

Could recommend a thin girl if you're into that. If you walk past 7/11 for a bit there's a house before a small out of business building. The small building has green shade. It's Between two houses. The glass houses have red shades. Anyway, that girl is thin with fat in the right places, small cups. Good attitude and BBBJ. Was the only one available at around 4 am.

So a couple of guys and I are going to Korea for summer vacation. Within the past week or so, one of your boy's was cheated on. So to hopefully take his mind off of the *****. We were hoping this trip, we had been planning for a year or so would take his mind off of her.

A few days ago, we met up at my place talking and were planning out the trip. One the guys asked me if I knew any good spots to go have a one night stand with a Korean chick. (Most of us are all single guys BTW).

I at the time didn't have any answers aside from at the clubs and had decided to look into it. So as I did my research about hook up cultures in Korea and what I found was the red light districts and then kissing rooms was the one that caught my interest. So I looked into and yet didn't find much as much of the articles about them was a few years old, dating before covid. Yes I understand it's wrong but we don't want this guy feeling depressed bringing the mood down. We already bought the tickets 3 months ago and the trip is within 2 weeks.

So my question is:

1. If I wanted to find a kissing room, where would I go and how would I find them?

2. Are they still open and at what times?

3. Will they be able to understand English? (My Korean is rusty).

4. Are the prices for the time and extras changed?

5. Are they safe overall to go overall? (Like what are the odds of catching something, are they clean as in the girls and rooms, and etc).

We plan on exploring or will try to explore most of Korea and was just wondering will seoul and busan have kissing rooms? This is new to me.

[QUOTE=Acron1047;2797339]
So my question is:

1. If I wanted to find a kissing room, where would I go and how would I find them?

2. Are they still open and at what times?

3. Will they be able to understand English? (My Korean is rusty).

4. Are the prices for the time and extras changed?

5. Are they safe overall to go overall? (Like what are the odds of catching something, are they clean as in the girls and rooms, and etc).

We plan on exploring or will try to explore most of Korea and was just wondering will seoul and busan have kissing rooms? This is new to me.[/QUOTE]Best suggestion is read the forum, even stuff about a year old is still relevant and up to date. Are you guys dead set on kissing rooms? Cause although there's not many options for us foreigners, don't just limit yourself to that. I know there's one for sure in Hongdae up in Seoul, check that thread for good directions. Need more information to better assist you. How many people in your group? Age? Ethnicities? (Korea is a bit racist, so it might matter) Sucks about your buddy, we've all been there at some point.

1. Hongdae are of Seoul, college party scene. Seoul thread has directions, do a search or read a few pages.

2. Yes, not sure on the hours though. Per what I've read, should be open around 6 pm.

3. Yes, even rusty korean will help. It'll make them like you and do more than a foreigner who doesn't know any korean. But they tend to know some English, it will vary depending on the girl.

4. Have not heard of that changing, again this info is in the Seoul thread.

5. Not sure on your chances of catching something, I've never caught anything from any of the girls I've messed with here. They tend to be pretty safe, making you wear a condom and make sure you are clean, and are very selective on who they'll raw when it comes to foreigners. Korean men can get away with alot more, so I'd guess the girls get tested regularly as to avoid anyone taking something home to their spouse / GF.

Also check out escort sites and MR. Just my 2 cents, again, read back about 10 - 20 pages and it should both answer all your questions and give you directions.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2766760]My quick MR writeup as an update:

I am trying to see Cecilia very soon! Will post updates.[/QUOTE]Did you end up meeting Cecilia? I would like to get your take on her. Or if anyone else here did. She looks like a real catch bt lacks in the review section.

[QUOTE=Zarcady;2703555]These are called VVIP places and mostly around Gangnam. You can probably search VVIP on opstar to get results. Bare in mind that these services are strictly Korean only. It's very similar to an officetel style experience but usually in hotels or something more upscale. These girls usually have real regular jobs outside and only service max 2 customers a day. If you want to try these places, I would suggest going the low tier ($700-1 k) instead of blowing 2-3 k as the girls are equally as hot, but the more expensive ones are only more expensive because of their jobs (small time weather caster / idol trainees / ex or current small time actresses). The lower rate girls are equally stunning but have normal jobs (student / internet shopping models / small time youtuber). Out of reach for foreigners unfortunately. It's definitely one of those experiences to have if you have money and are sick of those 5 or 6's and want to dip your dick in heaven The GFE is absolutely top notch and I highly recommend booking for 2 shots instead of 1, as the second shot is usually only about $150 extra and you might as well pay a little extra since your initial outlay is much higher.[/QUOTE]You still around? Looking to see if anyone can help me out with getting access to these places. I'm Korean American if that helps, my Korean isn't fluent but I can get by in Korea with it.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2796573]If you walk the whole way on the only side with houses, across from the outdoor parking lot, there's a glass house on the corner before the street turns. Both that house and the one on the turn has 2 or 3 girls that accept foreigners. A girl with probably C cups and a cobra tattoo going from collar down to hip and thigh offered no con. Can't say about the service since I didn't take.

Could recommend a thin girl if you're into that. If you walk past 7/11 for a bit there's a house before a small out of business building. The small building has green shade. It's Between two houses. The glass houses have red shades. Anyway, that girl is thin with fat in the right places, small cups. Good attitude and BBBJ. Was the only one available at around 4 am.[/QUOTE]Past Midnight?

What is best sites to look for girls.

THanks.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2798903]Did you end up meeting Cecilia? I would like to get your take on her. Or if anyone else here did. She looks like a real catch bt lacks in the review section.[/QUOTE]Will never know what possesses some women to get an ugly tattoo like that on their body. That paw arm tattoo is just so out of place on that woman. Not a fan of floppy pancake boobs here, but I'm sure some guys are into that. Pretty face, though.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2800072]Will never know what possesses some women to get an ugly tattoo like that on their body. That paw arm tattoo is just so out of place on that woman. Not a fan of floppy pancake boobs here, but I'm sure some guys are into that. Pretty face, though.[/QUOTE]Tattoo doesn't actually bother me but I agree with you about the floppy pancake boobs LOL. Cz of pretty face had missed them bt on a second look, ain't a fan of those either!

First off, I am no rookie. I know to read the forums. I am in the US and am a senior member there. I have played in Italy and Mexico, but I am traveling with a group to Daegu and Seoul in May and would like to try out the local talent. The language barrier is really intimidating me at the moment. I have done well in Italy, broken English plus the translator worked well, Mexico was the same. However, I am not even sure that I can find anything let alone negotiate price and services. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. My other question is about Daegu or Taegu. When I start to research the town, I find that there is a RLD, kissing booths and etc, but the Taegu forum here is basically dead. Is there any action there or should I just save my money for Seoul? The being a foreigner thing scares me. Everywhere else I have traveled has loved Americans. We probably get charged more, but that is fine with me. Also, Mexico is great for girls and your wallet if you ever get to go.

Guys,

I am in Seoul for 2-3 days. I tried to search kiss bang in hongdae for 2-3 hours. But I couldn't find it. Can anyone please help and pm exact directions or give directions on forum.

[QUOTE=SunnyBoss;2800493]Guys,

I am in Seoul for 2-3 days. I tried to search kiss bang in hongdae for 2-3 hours. But I couldn't find it. Can anyone please help and pm exact directions or give directions on forum.[/QUOTE]Use navermaps. Look for Hongik university station. From exit 1, turn right on yanghwa-ro (first street). Then at the first intersection, look up and you should see a sign on the 3rd floor with big letter "K".

Never been myself. But, I did find it.

Any reports from the Hill in Itaewon? Last time I went it was like 2-3 places open, how is it lately? I'm going to Seoul next week and would like to have some fun there.

[QUOTE=SunnyBoss;2800493]Guys,

I am in Seoul for 2-3 days. I tried to search kiss bang in hongdae for 2-3 hours. But I couldn't find it. Can anyone please help and pm exact directions or give directions on forum.[/QUOTE]Magicmike gave good directions. Make sure you look up and focus on the signs, cause the letter 'K' is faded, but you should still be able to see it if you pay attention. It'll be on the side where the convenience store is at, don't remember if its a 7-11 or GS25. Across the street from that area, got to cross the road at the end of the block (has traffic lights), is King Thai Massage that has been mentioned on this forum. FS available, don't remember the fee off top of my head. Girl I got was early 30's korean, think other guys got younger Thais, so might just be a timing thing. You can also find King Thai using naver.

[QUOTE=LeLion;2801655]Any reports from the Hill in Itaewon? Last time I went it was like 2-3 places open, how is it lately? I'm going to Seoul next week and would like to have some fun there.[/QUOTE]Same. Pretty dead. Don't expect new blood.

I wanted to report of my trip of Seoul 2 weeks ago.

I went to DonutsAnma at 3 pm, it was relatively busy for a weekday. I got to choose my type of play, I did 2 shots, 2 hours, 560 K Won. The lady was really nice and was talking to me about my preferences and what I liked. The ladies I got were I say young 30's or late 20's, they were pretty regardless, my second lady found out I was on my second shot and she wanted to do a 3-some LOL but I declined that. Overall it was a pretty good experience, would recommend.

Now I wanted to report, I managed to get into VVIP on some Officetel and I messaged a couple of them. They said they accepted a certain type of foreigner, I won't say (please don't ask) but my concern was that they wanted me to rent a specific hotel and have the girl visit me, I am not sure if this was a scam or not because I thought it was incalls and not outcalls. But what I was quoted was quite expensive 600-3000 K WON 80 mins and there was not a foreigner tax as that was the price listed on their site. I mentioned I knew ZERO korean and they were completely OK with that. I didn't pull the trigger because I had a girl contact me instead and I went to hang out with her but was looking for insight on someone that experienced this, is this normal?

I'm planning a trip to Korea and will be in Seoul in early-middle of May. I'm likely staying in the Jung-gu area. Where does a monger get started? First time wanting to monger in Korea. I'm pretty experienced in the US otherwise. What are price ranges like? How do I find the right places? Are there websites or online ads / posts for the girls? Is BBFS+cip on the menu? What price ranges should I expect? Do I have to know how to speak any Korean?

Feel free to reply here or DM with info, I'd greatly appreciate it!

[QUOTE=ShizzMack;2804238]Now I wanted to report, I managed to get into VVIP on some Officetel and I messaged a couple of them. They said they accepted a certain type of foreigner, I won't say (please don't ask) but my concern was that they wanted me to rent a specific hotel and have the girl visit me, I am not sure if this was a scam or not because I thought it was incalls and not outcalls. But what I was quoted was quite expensive 600-3000 K WON 80 mins and there was not a foreigner tax as that was the price listed on their site. I mentioned I knew ZERO korean and they were completely OK with that. I didn't pull the trigger because I had a girl contact me instead and I went to hang out with her but was looking for insight on someone that experienced this, is this normal?[/QUOTE]I managed once to pull off a meeting in an officetel. I know basic Korean. 2 hours 2 shots 650 k. Great GFE experience. Mid twenties Korean girl, very cute. Kind of my limit of what I'm willing to spend but totally worth the experience. Probably won't repeat.

[QUOTE=Sjoveren;2804744]I managed once to pull off a meeting in an officetel. I know basic Korean. 2 hours 2 shots 650 k. Great GFE experience. Mid twenties Korean girl, very cute. Kind of my limit of what I'm willing to spend but totally worth the experience. Probably won't repeat.[/QUOTE]Hey man,

Need this info. I know none Korean language, and I found it really hard to find those places.

Well, read on down the forum. Korea isn't so friendly to foreigners and difficult at best if you have no Korean ability.

And it has, only gotten worse in that regard in the last few years. The one foreign friendly place (Itaewon) is pretty much gone. RLD's arefew and far between and generally not friendly to foreigners. Anything else requires some Korean ability.

[QUOTE=Iv412;2804778]Hey man,

Need this info. I know none Korean language, and I found it really hard to find those places.[/QUOTE]

After my last post it got my mind curious, so I gave an OPI another run. Quoted 160 k 1 hour 1 shot. Not quite the same price as the other time, but also half the time and without options. Agency chief told me only some managers in his agency take in foreigners. Also, only way to make a booking was through a phone call in Korean.

Last time I was in Korea was 7 or so years ago and these establishments had gone down in quality but we're still around. I'm reading up on here and it seems they've been replaced with hyugatels (or maybe that's just the new name). Essentially it was walk into a building, talk to the host / ess, pay up (was about 200 k IIRC), describe the type of girl you want, then go wait in a room if no one is immediately available.

The rooms were like large one rooms. The actual girls room was half bedroom half wet room with a table shower setup. You have some fun there while getting clean, then finish up on the bed.

One place I frequented was called apple massage.

Anything like this still around? I'm gyopo and speak Korean but reading is a pain and I don't want to jump through VPN hoops and sign up for OP sites if I can avoid it.

Is there a Kiss room here? I know there is a hotel nearby. I am staying at the President Hotel in May and I am trying to figure out if there is anything for an American to get into close to my hotel. Would I be better getting an outcall visit?

Thanks fellas,

Stay safe.

[QUOTE=LeLion;2801655]Any reports from the Hill in Itaewon? Last time I went it was like 2-3 places open, how is it lately? I'm going to Seoul next week and would like to have some fun there.[/QUOTE]Let me unload and tell you that Seoul has gone from one of the best mongering cities to the worst in a span of 15 years. It's so depressing. The prices are absolutely ridiculous -- especially for what you get. It's gone from sexy nanny to granny to tranny since Bushy started MP patrols in Itaewon, back then. All that's left are terribly overpriced experiences in random usually Korean-only places (where a few foreigners might be tolerated), and crappy massage shops with overweight Thais and old Korean women. Korea sucks. And not in an oral way. Oh sure, you can spend $500 on some semi-pretty-possibly-a-real-woman experience on Massage Republic.

Even Craigslist is one giant cock-block. I see one person who desperately places ads on there, only to see them removed quite quickly. I've tried a few ads, and no responses (there used to be some, pre-pandemic).

Sorry, I'm just depressed about it all. This sucks.

[QUOTE=T9541;2806524]Last time I was in Korea was 7 or so years ago and these establishments had gone down in quality but we're still around. I'm reading up on here and it seems they've been replaced with hyugatels (or maybe that's just the new name). Essentially it was walk into a building, talk to the host / ess, pay up (was about 200 k IIRC), describe the type of girl you want, then go wait in a room if no one is immediately available.

The rooms were like large one rooms. The actual girls room was half bedroom half wet room with a table shower setup. You have some fun there while getting clean, then finish up on the bed.

One place I frequented was called apple massage.

Anything like this still around? I'm gyopo and speak Korean but reading is a pain and I don't want to jump through VPN hoops and sign up for OP sites if I can avoid it.[/QUOTE]Honestly, you can't get into Hygetels or Officitels without the use of those OP sites, since the locations are discreet and you need exact locations by phone.

The walk ins you're talking about still exist around the country, that's anmas, gunmas and the rest. For those, you go by without OP sites. Probably just looking through this thread for some info about anmas in Gangnam and what to expect in terms of rates and services would be a great start, even Google map or Kakao map lists some of their locations.

Tip: Since you're Gyopo (Look Korean) and can speak Korean, don't try to give off much vibes that you're a foreigner, that way you'll get the local-level service.

A recent article reports that in Hanam, Gyeonggi-do, a Thai Hyugetel owner and a handful of women were arrested. I wouldn't be surprised if this place was busted because the owner was a foreigner. It's pure speculation on my part, but I'm convinced that the police wanted a win and that Korean owners wanted their competition eliminated.

I've never used services in the Hanam area before, but it has been reported that the police found accounting records and are contacting customers.

[URL]http://m.kyeongin.com/view.php?key=20230419010003603[/URL]

And in Sillim, there has been an even bigger bust. A burgeoning crime organization headed by a nationalized Chinese-Korean working with Chinese muscle was busted for forcing noraebangs in Sillim to use his prostitution network. With reports of violence and other forms of intimidation, this bust was clearly warranted. Good riddance.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/055/0001051968[/URL]

It also seems that civic organizations, I. E. , bored housewives, women's studies majors, Christians with nothing better to do, and other assorted busybodies are seeking to place officetel prostitution in the sights of law enforcement. I hope nothing much comes of it, but who knows.

Good luck out there.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2810475]A recent article reports that in Hanam, Gyeonggi-do, a Thai Hyugetel owner and a handful of women were arrested. I wouldn't be surprised if this place was busted because the owner was a foreigner. It's pure speculation on my part, but I'm convinced that the police wanted a win and that Korean owners wanted their competition eliminated.

I've never used services in the Hanam area before, but it has been reported that the police found accounting records and are contacting customers.

[URL]http://m.kyeongin.com/view.php?key=20230419010003603[/URL]

And in Sillim, there has been an even bigger bust. A burgeoning crime organization headed by a nationalized Chinese-Korean working with Chinese muscle was busted for forcing noraebangs in Sillim to use his prostitution network. With reports of violence and other forms of intimidation, this bust was clearly warranted. Good riddance.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/055/0001051968[/URL]

It also seems that civic organizations, I. E. , bored housewives, women's studies majors, Christians with nothing better to do, and other assorted busybodies are seeking to place officetel prostitution in the sights of law enforcement. I hope nothing much comes of it, but who knows.

Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]This is good information. Thanks BJ.

I tried a couple of OPs in the songpa area. One is called Moon and the other stockings. Both seem to be run by a Chinese group. Absolutely hopeless quality and service. I had made an appointment for a specific profile. When I arrived I was given a completely different ajumma. Mid 50's gremlin. Terrible technique. Clearly a Chinese influence. I asked for a different profile but my request was denied.

The profiles shared are fake and the actual availability is of very poor quality.

Avoid like the plague.

I will keep trying new places and share an update.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2810983]This is good information. Thanks BJ.

I tried a couple of OPs in the songpa area. One is called Moon and the other stockings. Both seem to be run by a Chinese group. Absolutely hopeless quality and service. I had made an appointment for a specific profile. When I arrived I was given a completely different ajumma. Mid 50's gremlin. Terrible technique. Clearly a Chinese influence. I asked for a different profile but my request was denied.

The profiles shared are fake and the actual availability is of very poor quality.

Avoid like the plague.

I will keep trying new places and share an update.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing Buddy.

I just want to clarify that the two places you mentioned aren't OPs. They are Gunma. The difference is that Gunma are cheaper, offer massage, and specialize in hand or lip service rather than full service. A proper OP costs two to three times what a Gunma charges.

I've taken a look at the adverts for the two places you mentioned and I noticed a big red flag: not a single woman is showing her face in the adverts. I generally wouldn't recommend going to any place where 100 percent of the women's faces are hidden, because it's normally a sign that those women are models rather than the actual working women. If you want a good massage and a hand job, Gunma can be great, but as you noticed, the women aren't generally in their prime.

I would be happy to be disproven by someone who knows of a fantastic Gunma in Seoul employing very attractive women.

I want to add that I haven't posted any reports in a while because my sexcapades have become fairly routine. When I have time, I call one of a handful of my favorite Hyugetels, book an appointment, pay up, get serviced and go home. As I don't have much new to report, I've been laying low on the forum.

I'm looking forward to your future updates. Good luck.

Does anyone know of any professional dominatrix in Korea? I've been looking for a while and have yet to find any.

[QUOTE=Buddy1978;2810983] a couple of OPs in the songpa area. One is called Moon and the other stockings. Both seem to be run by a Chinese group. Absolutely hopeless quality and service. I had made an appointment for a specific profile. When I arrived I was given a completely different ajumma. Mid 50's gremlin. Terrible technique. Clearly a Chinese influence. I asked for a different profile but my request was.[/QUOTE]Not related to Seoul, but first time back in Korea in 8 years. I went to a massage place in Pyeongtaek-si in Sosaebol. Probably a dozen spots in a block near the traffic circle vicinity of Krispy Kreme. The Chinese girl wasn't bad looking, she gave a nice massage and FS for 120,000 won. The place is run by gangsters, but the guy at the front was cool. He offered one shot and massage for 120,000 and two shots and massage for 150,000. I took the first option and when I left before my time was up because I had to run, he told me next time FS only for 100,000 and that they had lots of girls. I passed one on the way out and she looked even better, so I'll be back. $80 usd is nothing compared to the United States $220+ for a grandma.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2801714]Magicmike gave good directions. Make sure you look up and focus on the signs, cause the letter 'K' is faded, but you should still be able to see it if you pay attention. It'll be on the side where the convenience store is at, don't remember if its a 7-11 or GS25. Across the street from that area, got to cross the road at the end of the block (has traffic lights), is King Thai Massage that has been mentioned on this forum. FS available, don't remember the fee off top of my head. Girl I got was early 30's Korean, think other guys got younger Thais, so might just be a timing thing. You can also find King Thai using naver.[/QUOTE]What can be done at these kind of places? I've seen this one before but I've never visited it. I'm closer to gangnam and I've walked by Gangnam Karol a few times but I want to try it soon.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2811297]
I want to add that I haven't posted any reports in a while because my sexcapades have become fairly routine. When I have time, I call one of a handful of my favorite Hyugetels, book an appointment, pay up, get serviced and go home. As I don't have much new to report, I've been laying low on the forum. [/QUOTE]Hey Bonjovi3,

As a senior in Hyugetels, what do you say would be the best time to try contacting and getting into new Hyugetels. I would reason Friday evenings through the weekend is a no bet time for new foreign customers since there's an influx of Korean customers during that time frame.

I'm of a view that weekday afternoons till early evenings would have the highest probability of atleast getting accepted into one of them. What do you say about that?

I always assumed Hyugetels are a no go for foreigners but after reading several of your reports, I think they're worth a good try atleast.

BTW, even when you have nothing new to report, your usual Hyugetel reports are always a fun and informative read.

Hi all,

New to the forum so apologies if there's any rules broken.

I'm a Korean American (30, M) heading back to Korea for the first time in a few years and also will have my own place in Gangnam for the first time ever. Usually I stay with family so haven't ever had the opportunity to explore. I've been looking into the Anma massage services and have found a few names that I can contact via kakao and telegram.

However, wondering if any Korean Hyung or expert can check my work and make sure I've done my due diligence right. Don't want to end up getting scammed, ripped off, or getting an STD. I speak okay Korean and can get by just fine if I have the time to type and translate but get nervous on the phone.

Couple questions I have are:

- are the links and contact info from places like yamap7 trustworthy?

- should I be trying the regular places like Tiffany and donut Anma instead? Or maybe even different services for my first time?

- are there other resources that I should be taking a look at, especially if I can read Korean?

Thanks in advance! Promise to report back on any and all misadventures.

Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.

Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2812062] I went to a massage place in Pyeongtaek-si in Sosaebol. Probably a dozen spots in a block near the traffic circle vicinity of Krispy Kreme. The Chinese girl wasn't bad looking, she gave a nice massage and FS for 120,000 won. The place is run by gangsters, but the guy at the front was cool. He offered one shot and massage for 120,000 and two shots and massage for 150,000. [/QUOTE]There are lots of potential places there. Can you give a clue about which one you visited? The biz name or floor number or building name?

And how could you tell it was run by gangsters?

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2812654]There are lots of potential places there. Can you give a clue about which one you visited? The biz name or floor number or building name?

And how could you tell it was run by gangsters?[/QUOTE]You can swing a dead cat and hit five massage parlors. One building has one on floors four, five, and six. I went back again this weekend, but was disappointed since the service was much the same. Unkempt Chinese girls just don't work for me, I need a clean shave. I've had great experiences with Chinese AMPS in California, but not so much here.

As far as gangsters, the volume and type of tattoos give it away.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2812734]You can swing a dead cat and hit five massage parlors. One building has one on floors four, five, and six. I went back again this weekend, but was disappointed since the service was much the same. Unkempt Chinese girls just don't work for me, I need a clean shave. [/QUOTE]3 parlors on floors of the same building? Sounds like a cartel not competition. Are the prices and service offerings the same at all places you checked out?

And are the SPs that you saw all Chinese? I'd expect some Thai SPs in the mix.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2808493]Let me unload and tell you that Seoul has gone from one of the best mongering cities to the worst in a span of 15 years. It's so depressing. The prices are absolutely ridiculous -- especially for what you get. It's gone from sexy nanny to granny to tranny since Bushy started MP patrols in Itaewon, back then. All that's left are terribly overpriced experiences in random usually Korean-only places (where a few foreigners might be tolerated), and crappy massage shops with overweight Thais and old Korean women. Korea sucks. And not in an oral way. Oh sure, you can spend $500 on some semi-pretty-possibly-a-real-woman experience on Massage Republic.

Even Craigslist is one giant cock-block. I see one person who desperately places ads on there, only to see them removed quite quickly. I've tried a few ads, and no responses (there used to be some, pre-pandemic).

Sorry, I'm just depressed about it all. This sucks.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that you're having such a bad time.

Mongering in Korea is a young man's game with most of the customers in their 20's, 30's, or 40's. If you're much older than this, you've probably aged out of the easily available options. I hate to say it, but there was a recent trend among the online adverts where a selection of women have made this abundantly clear by writing 'No customers over 40' on their profiles.

From what I understand, pensioners living in South East Asia have similar complaints these days. There's much talk about the decline of the sex industry in Thailand and the Philippines, but the truth is that such complaints are a reflection of two uncomfortable facts: prices have increased and the most attractive women prefer younger customers. It seems that many mongers have forgotten the first clause of Mike Damone's famous saying, "I get older, they stay the same age. ".

Even if the male sex drive remains constant, the world changes. In Korea, almost all the best services are online, and though some might bemoan the shift, for most this has been a welcome change. The move online has made prowling a friction-less experience for customers, workers, and managers. Customers can browse and book a reservation from the comfort of home. Workers no longer have to actively promote their services. And managers get to hide their business from the watchful eye of the public. It's a win-win-win situation.

I particularly like the online experience because I don't have to wander a seedy neighborhood and negotiate with bikini clad women in pink windows. That doesn't mean there wasn't a certain charm to those sorts of transactions, but I prefer to arrive at a clean and comfortable officetel and know that I'll be with the woman I chose and receive the advertised services I will pay for. Discretion, comfort, cleanliness, and transparency are certainly worth the price paid.

I know it's not possible for everyone to access these services, but there is plenty of information on this forum to help those who are willing. No doubt there is a high barrier to entry, but it can be overcome by those who live in country and speak some Korean.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2812875]I particularly like the online experience because I don't have to wander a seedy neighborhood and negotiate with bikini clad women in pink windows. That doesn't mean there wasn't a certain charm to those sorts of transactions, but I prefer to arrive at a clean and comfortable officetel and know that I'll be with the woman I chose and receive the advertised services I will pay for. Discretion, comfort, cleanliness, and transparency are certainly worth the price paid.

I know it's not possible for everyone to access these services, but there is plenty of information on this forum to help those who are willing. No doubt there is a high barrier to entry, but it can be overcome by those who live in country and speak some Korean.[/QUOTE]I agree with your point. I am not Korean and a younger guy. My experience exploring this environment with an open mind has been positive. My language ability is basic, and I have not been accepted everywhere I contacted, but it has offered me good experiences that have been well worth the price with only some effort and an open mind required. I also prefer the discreteness of Opis rather than open RLDs, and so on.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2812299]Hey Bonjovi3,

As a senior in Hyugetels, what do you say would be the best time to try contacting and getting into new Hyugetels. I would reason Friday evenings through the weekend is a no bet time for new foreign customers since there's an influx of Korean customers during that time frame.

I'm of a view that weekday afternoons till early evenings would have the highest probability of atleast getting accepted into one of them. What do you say about that?

I always assumed Hyugetels are a no go for foreigners but after reading several of your reports, I think they're worth a good try atleast.

BTW, even when you have nothing new to report, your usual Hyugetel reports are always a fun and informative read.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the shout out.

To be honest, I don't think there's ever a bad time to contact a Hyugetel. Places that won't accept foreigners never will, regardless of the time you call, and those that are open to foreigners will try to work around your schedule.

However, to verify your assumption that Hyugetels are relatively quiet during the day, it's absolutely true. This is why most of them offer a 10,000 won to 20,000 won discount for customers who arrive before 6:00 pm on weekdays. This suits me as I'm an early bird, but calling too early has its own issues, such as the women still being asleep. At some Hyugetels, even those that open as early as 1:00 pm, not all the women are available until later in the afternoon. What I'm saying is, call when you're available and able to make a reservation and they'll likely do what they can to get you in the door. FYI, I often go on the weekends without any issues.

Since it will be your first time, I'll reiterate a few tips I've posted earlier. Contact as many Hyugetels as you can. Start by telling them you're a foreigner and add whether you're black, white, indian, or other. If they ask you to send a photo ID, send a picture of your ARC.

The next step is to schedule an appointment. Tell them the time, woman, course, and any options you might want. Not all women will be available. Some might not work with foreigners at all, and some might be busy at the time you want to book.

If you find what you want, they will send you an address and confirm the price, course, and time. Sometimes, they will send you to an address that is across the street or next door, and then give you the real address after you call upon arrival. This can be a little confusing at first, so make sure to be early and call at least five minutes before your appointment.

Next, you'll need the building code to enter the lobby or elevator bank as well as the room number. These will be provided once you arrive.

They will often provide one extra set of instructions as well. The most common instructions I've received are: Don't knock or ring the door bell. Instead, enter a random 4 digit password on the door lock and wait for the woman to open the door. Or, they might instruct you to instead jiggle the handle two to three times and wait for the woman to open the door.

Of course, it goes without saying that all of the communications described above take place in Korean. Most of the places I've visited have been happy to text, but a good portion require that you call upon arrival to receive the real address and elevator lobby code.

For instance, I recently got accepted by a brand new Hyugetel. I initially reached out through text and the manager said he would need to ask the women whether they would be OK with a foreigner. I've gotten similar responses in the past followed by a flat no, but in this case, about an hour later he responded that one woman had said OK, and asked whether I approved.

Of course I did.

He then texted me where to go at the appointed time, and told me to call. When the time arrived, I went to the subway station exit he had mentioned and called. He then told me the directions, the door code, and the room number over the phone. With my Korean ability, it was a lot of information to try to remember all at once, but he clarified when I asked. He would not, however, just text me that particular info. Some Hyugetels will; Some won't. It just depends on how paranoid they are. At the places where I'm a regular, I no longer need to call; texts suffice.

Calling can be a bit of a hassle, but in this case it was worth it because the woman was beautiful, the opening hours matched my preferences, and it is located quite literally in the building adjacent to my office. As a matter of fact, it takes longer to wait for the elevator than to walk down the road to the front door. Considering that I can take a late lunch whenever I want, I couldn't be happier.

Lots of kissing, good eye contact, and DATY all day long: 50 min bbfscip 130,000 won.

[QUOTE=TheBizzzz;2812631]Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.

Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?[/QUOTE]Yeah I've seen them on the video I posted on this thread a while back, Are the prices cheaper then glass girls? Looks? Service?

[QUOTE=MrFuji;2812611]Hi all,

New to the forum so apologies if there's any rules broken.

I'm a Korean American (30, M) heading back to Korea for the first time in a few years and also will have my own place in Gangnam for the first time ever. Usually I stay with family so haven't ever had the opportunity to explore. I've been looking into the Anma massage services and have found a few names that I can contact via kakao and telegram.

However, wondering if any Korean Hyung or expert can check my work and make sure I've done my due diligence right. Don't want to end up getting scammed, ripped off, or getting an STD. I speak okay Korean and can get by just fine if I have the time to type and translate but get nervous on the phone.

Couple questions I have are:

- are the links and contact info from places like yamap7 trustworthy?

- should I be trying the regular places like Tiffany and donut Anma instead? Or maybe even different services for my first time?

- are there other resources that I should be taking a look at, especially if I can read Korean?

Thanks in advance! Promise to report back on any and all misadventures.[/QUOTE]Yamap7 is trustworthy, but there is a better site at [URL]Opgani12.com[/URL]. It has more listings, it is updated more regularly, and there are lots of user reviews. However, you have to sign up for an account to access it.

The only way to get scammed is if you pay before you enter the premises. So, do not, under any circumstances, pay with a bank transfer. If you send money to someone, just count it as a loss because it's as good as gone. These are cash businesses, so you will always pay at the door or when you meet the woman. If you pay before you meet the woman, as is common at anmas and massage parlors where you fork over cash to someone working behind a counter, you might be disappointed with the woman provided, but you won't be outright scammed.

The anmas you mentioned should be a safe bet, but the women who work there will likely be at the end of their 20's or even in their 30's. I've not been, but from what I've read they offer great service and all the customers are required to wear a condom, so no need to worry about STDs. I also understand that asians from all over the world are welcome to visit these anmas. Donut anma, in particular, is even paying for an advertisement on a Singaporean sex forum, which further underscores how welcoming they are. If you've got the cash to burn, anmas are among the easiest way to pay for play in Seoul.

If you want to book from an online site, Kakao and Telegram can be used to get the conversation started, but almost every service requires that you eventually call or text from a cell phone number registered in Korea. The anmas you mentioned, however, might be willing to let you book an appointment using Kakao and Telegram. However, from what I've read, most foreign visitors are walk-in customers. Walk-ins are usually told to wait one or two hours until a woman becomes available. Supposedly, anmas have comfortable lounge facilities.

Thanks Bonjovi.

This is surely a lot of info worth like a decade of experience with Hyugetels. I was hoping to include those places that might have foreigners in a "may be" corner among my targets. But you're right, they either accept foreigners or not at all and calling early doesn't change that fact. I will just have to call at my convenience then.

Infact, I tried like 3 to 4 places yesterday but I lost hope after full denials LOL. But I'll put aside like an hour and try as many as possible. My Korean can handle phone conversations just fine but when it comes to memorizing addresses, passwords etc, It'll take more than average will power. Not giving up tho!! Even if it won't be as nearer as the one you're enjoying just down the street.

With such a beautiful woman, fine with Kissing, DATY, bbfscip and all that at just 130,000 and within few steps of reach, you can't be asking for more.

Thanks again for the tips and keep up the good work of your Hyugetel update reports.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2812942]Thanks for the shout out.

To be honest, I don't think there's ever a bad time to contact a Hyugetel. Places that won't accept foreigners never will, regardless of the time you call, and those that are open to foreigners will try to work around your schedule.

However, to verify your assumption that Hyugetels are relatively quiet during the day, it's absolutely true. This is why most of them offer a 10,000 won to 20,000 won discount for customers who arrive before 6:00 pm on weekdays. This suits me as I'm an early bird, but calling too early has its own issues, such as the women still being asleep. At some Hyugetels, even those that open as early as 1:00 pm, not all the women are available until later in the afternoon. What I'm saying is, call when you're available and able to make a reservation and they'll likely do what they can to get you in the door. FYI, I often go on the weekends without any issues.

Since it will be your first time, I'll reiterate a few tips I've posted earlier. Contact as many Hyugetels as you can. Start by telling them you're a foreigner and add whether you're black, white, indian, or other. If they ask you to send a photo ID, send a picture of your ARC.

The next step is to schedule an appointment. Tell them the time, woman, course, and any options you might want. Not all women will be available. Some might not work with foreigners at all, and some might be busy at the time you want to book.

If you find what you want, they will send you an address and confirm the price, course, and time. Sometimes, they will send you to an address that is across the street or next door, and then give you the real address after you call upon arrival. This can be a little confusing at first, so make sure to be early and call at least five minutes before your appointment.

Next, you'll need the building code to enter the lobby or elevator bank as well as the room number. These will be provided once you arrive.

They will often provide one extra set of instructions as well. The most common instructions I've received are: Don't knock or ring the door bell. Instead, enter a random 4 digit password on the door lock and wait for the woman to open the door. Or, they might instruct you to instead jiggle the handle two to three times and wait for the woman to open the door.

Of course, it goes without saying that all of the communications described above take place in Korean. Most of the places I've visited have been happy to text, but a good portion require that you call upon arrival to receive the real address and elevator lobby code.

For instance, I recently got accepted by a brand new Hyugetel. I initially reached out through text and the manager said he would need to ask the women whether they would be OK with a foreigner. I've gotten similar responses in the past followed by a flat no, but in this case, about an hour later he responded that one woman had said OK, and asked whether I approved.

Of course I did.

He then texted me where to go at the appointed time, and told me to call. When the time arrived, I went to the subway station exit he had mentioned and called. He then told me the directions, the door code, and the room number over the phone. With my Korean ability, it was a lot of information to try to remember all at once, but he clarified when I asked. He would not, however, just text me that particular info. Some Hyugetels will; Some won't. It just depends on how paranoid they are. At the places where I'm a regular, I no longer need to call; texts suffice.

Calling can be a bit of a hassle, but in this case it was worth it because the woman was beautiful, the opening hours matched my preferences, and it is located quite literally in the building adjacent to my office. As a matter of fact, it takes longer to wait for the elevator than to walk down the road to the front door. Considering that I can take a late lunch whenever I want, I couldn't be happier.

Lots of kissing, good eye contact, and DATY all day long: 50 min bbfscip 130,000 won.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBizzzz;2812631]Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.

Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?[/QUOTE]You guessed right!. They aren't as pretty but some will still ask 100 K, but an average of 80 K is common. There's still a few in that alley too who still don't take foreigners (Like 2 or 3).

And besides that, they're those in small tents along the pavement of the public road. Here, I saw some asking from 60 K. But 80 K was common here as well. Not really old but in the latter middle age period, and not appealing look wise.

My info might be distorted cz it's been some good time since I last visited. Even though I checked several times, I didn't see any quality here honestly that deserves that kind of money. Unless you just want to get it over with so badly.

And don't bother following the ajjumas at the opposite side of the public road, they claim they have aghashi's, only to lead you to real old grandma if you're a foreigner.

In Dongducheon Jungang Station, 50 K is common and is better off in terms of price-quality ratio compared to that YDP alley (Excluding the Glass rooms ofcourse, since the alley seems to be the one fine with serving foreigners anyways) but Dongducheon is far from Seoul, like a full hour by subway, and might also not be that much worth the journey.

The more they squeeze the RLDs out, the more underground work like Hyugetels, officitells etc line up, but that means fewer options left for foreigners to explore.

[QUOTE=TheBizzzz;2812631]Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.

Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?[/QUOTE]You can ask any questions to most of the girls around there without any problems if you want to walk away.

The alley women are 70 k. They're probably in their 40's-50's. I only saw one that was cute. Short, mid length blonde, little tan, see / the cups and decent everything else. The rest were chubby and flat or skinny. They mostly wear sweats or long length clothing.

[QUOTE=TheBizzzz;2812631]Just curious, has anyone seen the tents and small rooms in the alleyway that connects the busy / public road with the RLD? Going through that small alleyway, there's a couple of girls there. I'm assuming they aren't as "pretty" and slightly older as the women in the glass rooms.

Anyone tried any of these girls here? What was the damage?[/QUOTE]What Yepez tents and where are they located? I will be in yongsan during the month of August.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2813307]You guessed right!. They aren't as pretty but some will still ask 100 K, but an average of 80 K is common. There's still a few in that alley too who still don't take foreigners (Like 2 or 3).

And besides that, they're those in small tents along the pavement of the public road. Here, I saw some asking from 60 K. But 80 K was common here as well. Not really old but in the latter middle age period, and not appealing look wise.

My info might be distorted cz it's been some good time since I last visited. Even though I checked several times, I didn't see any quality here honestly that deserves that kind of money. Unless you just want to get it over with so badly.

And don't bother following the ajjumas at the opposite side of the public road, they claim they have aghashi's, only to lead you to real old grandma if you're a foreigner.

In Dongducheon Jungang Station, 50 K is common and is better off in terms of price-quality ratio compared to that YDP alley (Excluding the Glass rooms ofcourse, since the alley seems to be the one fine with serving foreigners anyways) but Dongducheon is far from Seoul, like a full hour by subway, and might also not be that much worth the journey..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2813197]Yamap7 is trustworthy, but there is a better site at [URL]Opgani12.com[/URL]. It has more listings, it is updated more regularly, and there are lots of user reviews. However, you have to sign up for an account to access it.

The only way to get scammed is if you pay before you enter the premises. So, do not, under any circumstances, pay with a bank transfer. If you send money to someone, just count it as a loss because it's as good as gone. These are cash businesses, so you will always pay at the door or when you meet the woman. If you pay before you meet the woman, as is common at anmas and massage parlors where you fork over cash to someone working behind a counter, you might be disappointed with the woman provided, but you won't be outright scammed.

The anmas you mentioned should be a safe bet, but the women who work there will likely be at the end of their 20's or even in their 30's. I've not been, but from what I've read they offer great service and all the customers are required to wear a condom, so no need to worry about STDs. I also understand that asians from all over the world are welcome to visit these anmas. Donut anma, in particular, is even paying for an advertisement on a Singaporean sex forum, which further underscores how welcoming they are. If you've got the cash to burn, anmas are among the easiest way to pay for play in Seoul.[/QUOTE]You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate all the tips!

From your recommendations, I think I'll try the hyugatels and also maybe a few outcall services if I get some good photos sent ahead for me to pick from.

If you have any specific services and connections you've enjoyed using, would appreciate the connection but totally understand if that's just got to be part of my journey of discovery.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2784666]In a new Hyugetel advert I spotted a woman that I had met at another location two years earlier. Since she worked there, I figured this new place would respond favorably to a request to book an appointment. Thankfully they did, and so I made an appointment. The woman remembered me and she let me know that I remain the only foreign customer she has ever met in Korea.

The first time she serviced me she was good, but on this more recent visit, she was great. She gave a great blow job with a full deep throat experience and also sucked my balls and rimmed me. And she did all of this willfully and happily. She was also fully on board for DATY and DFK. To top it off, she was very attentive to my needs which she showed by blowing my cock and sucking my balls between every position change. To sum up, the experience was everything I had hoped it would be.

30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.[/QUOTE]Hey Bonjovi3,

I have been reading through your posts quite often recently and noticed the word Hyugetel. If I remember correctly, its like an office building with units inside for girls? By any chance how can I find these services. I have checked opgani12. Is it like an incall service? I have used kakotalk to contact girls before but I have never heard of this site.

Would you be kind enough to give us, the readers, more of your wisdom on how opgani12 works.

Thanks brother!

[QUOTE=MikerChanger;2813794]Hey Bonjovi3,

I have been reading through your posts quite often recently and noticed the word Hyugetel. If I remember correctly, its like an office building with units inside for girls? By any chance how can I find these services. I have checked opgani12. Is it like an incall service? I have used kakotalk to contact girls before but I have never heard of this site.

Would you be kind enough to give us, the readers, more of your wisdom on how opgani12 works.

Thanks brother![/QUOTE]BLUF- you need to know how to read Korean- to register and navigate. I'm a white dude from the south, if I can anyone can.

Go to https / urlreplacement0} and register with your username, name, and email. After login, you can filter results from the top left by type- officetel, hyugetel, gunma, etc. And by location Seoul, Pyeongtaek, uijeongbu, etc. The list of providers will be displayed with contact information and a link to their page with pictures. I've never used the contact information, but someday soon I will.

Good luck. Hope it helps.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2784666]In a new Hyugetel advert I spotted a woman that I had met at another location two years earlier. Since she worked there, I figured this new place would respond favorably to a request to book an appointment. Thankfully they did, and so I made an appointment. The woman remembered me and she let me know that I remain the only foreign customer she has ever met in Korea.

The first time she serviced me she was good, but on this more recent visit, she was great. She gave a great blow job with a full deep throat experience and also sucked my balls and rimmed me. And she did all of this willfully and happily. She was also fully on board for DATY and DFK. To top it off, she was very attentive to my needs which she showed by blowing my cock and sucking my balls between every position change. To sum up, the experience was everything I had hoped it would be.

30 min bbfscip 110,000 won.[/QUOTE]Haha, Korea is funny and not funny with how it works. I made a great connection with a girl and got her private digits. She messaged me when she moved shops and I contacted the new place to make an appt but they said girls were not interested in foreigners. I didn't want to invest the time of doing private meeting and prefer the quick meetings of these agencies.

[QUOTE=ImJaehyun259;2812149]What can be done at these kind of places? I've seen this one before but I've never visited it. I'm closer to gangnam and I've walked by Gangnam Karol a few times but I want to try it soon.[/QUOTE]Which place are you referring to? The Kiss Bang or Massage parlor? Both have been covered in this forum and others areas in Korea. The kiss place is where you can go make out with girls anywhere from early 20's to mid 30's, HJ, BJ, and FS available depending on the girl, YMMV. Some guys have been able to meet these girls outside for fun, as the girl was comfortable enough to give them their KakaoIDs. The massage is just the usual. Only thing I found different about this place is that you pay the girl separately for FS, I rarely visit Seoul or monger there so not sure if this is standard practice for all massage places there. Prices for both have been mentioned on this thread, so I'd go back a few pages for accurate pricing as I don't know them off the top of my head.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2814225]BLUF- you need to know how to read Korean- to register and navigate. I'm a white dude from the south, if I can anyone can.

Go to https / urlreplacement0} and register with your username, name, and email. After login, you can filter results from the top left by type- officetel, hyugetel, gunma, etc. And by location Seoul, Pyeongtaek, uijeongbu, etc. The list of providers will be displayed with contact information and a link to their page with pictures. I've never used the contact information, but someday soon I will.

Good luck. Hope it helps.[/QUOTE]What is the site? It doesn't show correctly can you spell it out or something? I'd assume using google translate to read the site works.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2814225]BLUF- you need to know how to read Korean- to register and navigate. I'm a white dude from the south, if I can anyone can.

Go to https / urlreplacement0} and register with your username, name, and email. After login, you can filter results from the top left by type- officetel, hyugetel, gunma, etc. And by location Seoul, Pyeongtaek, uijeongbu, etc. The list of providers will be displayed with contact information and a link to their page with pictures. I've never used the contact information, but someday soon I will.

Good luck. Hope it helps.[/QUOTE]I am foreigner in Seoul and I was curious if anyone here has an idea if it's possible for guys to find women who need sex and pay the guy. A friend told me he heard those places exist but very hidden compare to women own.

I was reading and it seems public transportation ends at midnight. So if you are out an about at a RLD late, how do you get back to your hotel? Is a taxi the only way?

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2814976]I was reading and it seems public transportation ends at midnight. So if you are out an about at a RLD late, how do you get back to your hotel? Is a taxi the only way?[/QUOTE]There're nightbuses. Use naver maps, it usually has good route suggestions but you can also search nightbuses in korean and select stops to see all the nearby stops and routes with them. There are a lot of taxis though, not a bad option. I'm guessing the most you'd spend is around 30 k across the city.

This may also be breaking a few forum rules but I'm in the same situation (age, background) as you. Any interest in some adventures together?

I usually monger alone but Korea is very receptive to groups and some activities unavailable back in the states are just for non-solo groups (IE drinks+more in hostess bars etc).

Twos would get a lot farther and have more fun than one.

[QUOTE=MrFuji;2812611]Hi all,

New to the forum so apologies if there's any rules broken.

I'm a Korean American (30, M) heading back to Korea for the first time in a few years and also will have my own place in Gangnam for the first time ever. Usually I stay with family so haven't ever had the opportunity to explore. I've been looking into the Anma massage services and have found a few names that I can contact via kakao and telegram.

However, wondering if any Korean Hyung or expert can check my work and make sure I've done my due diligence right. Don't want to end up getting scammed, ripped off, or getting an STD. I speak okay Korean and can get by just fine if I have the time to type and translate but get nervous on the phone.

Couple questions I have are:.[/QUOTE]

I'm heading out to Seoul for the first time soon but haven't booked a hotel yet. I want to be close to mongering and having fun each night as I'll be there about a week.

I think I've narrowed it 3 places.

1. Itaewon to be close to the hill as they are more foreigner friendly (I don't speak Korean).

2. Yeongduengpo to be close to that RLD as they seem more active than the hill from what I have read. Downside is it seems less centralized and will take longer to get around the city for daytime activities or exploration.

3. Myeong-dong area. I don't know of any mongering fun to be had but it is a more centralized area.

If I find time, I will probably head up to the Miari RLD one night, I like the quick ones better as I'm generally a fast shooter so don't want to pay for an hour only for it to last 10-15 minutes anyway. Do the website escorts who list per hour ever offer cheaper rates for smaller times if you call and ask?

Anyone with experience have a recommendation on where to stay?

I'm heading out to Seoul for the first time soon but haven't booked a hotel yet. I want to be close to mongering and having fun each night as I'll be there about a week.

I think I've narrowed it 3 places.

1. Itaewon to be close to the hill as they are more foreigner friendly (I don't speak Korean).

2. Yeongduengpo to be close to that RLD as they seem more active than the hill from what I have read. Downside is it seems less centralized and will take longer to get around the city for daytime activities or exploration.

3. Myeong-dong area. I don't know of any mongering fun to be had but it is a more centralized area.

If I find time, I will probably head up to the Miari RLD one night, I like the quick ones better as I'm generally a fast shooter so don't want to pay for an hour only for it to last 10-15 minutes anyway. Do the website escorts who list per hour ever offer cheaper rates for smaller times if you call and ask?

Anyone with experience have a recommendation on where to stay?

Hate to post again (been a day without a response).

So outside of full on fun probably at RLDs at night. I am looking to get massages during the day. Are these pretty much everywhere around town or mostly concentrated in certain areas? Is there a best way to find one? Anything I should know in particular?

Basically I'm looking to get a massage during the day most days I'm there. A nice bonus would be a HJ or BJ to end, but not necessary depending on the price. I think I've seen massages are pretty cheap around town.

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2815475] Do the website escorts who list per hour ever offer cheaper rates for smaller times if you call and ask?

Anyone with experience have a recommendation on where to stay?[/QUOTE]Unless it's an option in their advert, they'd probably get annoyed if you ask for less time for cheaper. They'll be more than happy to take the full amount for less time though, haha.

Out of the very few times using massagerepublic, I've always been able to ask for a price well below 300 k without any reluctance. Even down to 200 k. I think it helps if you look presentable on your messanger app's profile, if you're not concerned with appearing anonymous.

You should probably stay around the normal places you want to visit since the p4 p scene isn't worth being the main reason to travel here. Haven't checked much of the other RLDs besides YDP that I've reported. Girls take breaks, come, and go. None of the really good ones there as far as when passing by lately. Let us know about the other places when you visit.

This post has been exactly the in I've been looking for so thank you for this — it's been impossible.

To find this type of site so this is super helpful. Do you know if there are any similar major review sites besides opgani and yamap? Something like this site or ***? Opgani looks like a purely review site oriented around different agencies, whereas this site for example has a place for broader discussion. I'm interested in where to access just general seedy or frank convos from korean netizens that aren't blocked by censors.

Also, any idea on why they require a korean cell number? My korean is pretty good and I'm ethnically korean so I'm surprised they care that much.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2813197]Yamap7 is trustworthy, but there is a better site at [URL]Opgani12.com[/URL]. It has more listings, it is updated more regularly, and there are lots of user reviews. However, you have to sign up for an account to access it.

The only way to get scammed is if you pay before you enter the premises. So, do not, under any circumstances, pay with a bank transfer. If you send money to someone, just count it as a loss because it's as good as gone. These are cash businesses, so you will always pay at the door or when you meet the woman. If you pay before you meet the woman, as is common at anmas and massage parlors where you fork over cash to someone working behind a counter, you might be disappointed with the woman provided, but you won't be outright scammed.

The anmas you mentioned should be a safe bet, but the women who work there will likely be at the end of their 20's or even in their 30's. I've not been, but from what I've read they offer great service and all the customers are required to wear a condom, so no need to worry about STDs. I also understand that asians from all over the world are welcome to visit these anmas. Donut anma, in particular, is even paying for an advertisement on a Singaporean sex forum, which further underscores how welcoming they are. If you've got the cash to burn, anmas are among the easiest way to pay for play in Seoul.

If you want to book from an online site, Kakao and Telegram can be used to get the conversation started, but almost every service requires that you eventually call or text from a cell phone number registered in Korea. The anmas you mentioned, however, might be willing to let you book an appointment using Kakao and Telegram. However, from what I've read, most foreign visitors are walk-in customers. Walk-ins are usually told to wait one or two hours until a woman becomes available. Supposedly, anmas have comfortable lounge facilities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2815867]Hate to post again (been a day without a response).

So outside of full on fun probably at RLDs at night. I am looking to get massages during the day. Are these pretty much everywhere around town or mostly concentrated in certain areas? Is there a best way to find one? Anything I should know in particular?

Basically I'm looking to get a massage during the day most days I'm there. A nice bonus would be a HJ or BJ to end, but not necessary depending on the price. I think I've seen massages are pretty cheap around town.[/QUOTE]This thread isn't as active as other threads on this site, so doesn't really get alot of traffic. Not to mention its hard to get services here if you're not Korean, as I know Koreans have their own site and forums for this kind of stuff with far more information, but primarily this country is a bit prejudice against non-Koreans. I don't frequent Seoul much, but I'd say stay in Itaewon. The Hill is there and plenty of foreigners, as well as Korean girls who like foreigners, tend to go to the bars / clubs in that area.

Pretty much most massage parlors will give you what you want, not sure if you're a Gyopo, White, Black, Indian, Hispanic, or of some other Asian descent. But they may deny you depending on your ethnicity and the time of day that you go. Read the forum, lots of info and not much changes. Rule of thumb is that if the massage place has dim or red / pinkish lights when you walk in then expect extra services. They'll always ask if you want extra service, or if you pay over 100 K WON upfront at reception, then just know that you're probably in the right place. Besides specific ones that have been mentioned here, it'll be fairly easy to find a massage shop that offers extras. Also, expect most of the Itaewon shops to cater to your needs.

Keep in mind that if you are not Korean, the taxi drivers will try to overcharge you late at night and not use the meter. So be ready to barter / haggle, you can try and use the phone app "Kakao T" which is basically their Taxi service, kinda like "Grab".

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2815908]Unless it's an option in their advert, they'd probably get annoyed if you ask for less time for cheaper. They'll be more than happy to take the full amount for less time though, haha.

Out of the very few times using massagerepublic, I've always been able to ask for a price well below 300 k without any reluctance. Even down to 200 k. I think it helps if you look presentable on your messanger app's profile, if you're not concerned with appearing anonymous.

You should probably stay around the normal places you want to visit since the p4 p scene isn't worth being the main reason to travel here. Haven't checked much of the other RLDs besides YDP that I've reported. Girls take breaks, come, and go. None of the really good ones there as far as when passing by lately. Let us know about the other places when you visit.[/QUOTE]I was looking through some ads on MR but don't really see anything for number of pops. Do they normally include multiple pops in an hour or is that extra?

Hi,

I'm trying this forum again to see if I have better luck. I'm currently vacationing in Seoul staying in Jung-gu and I can't for the life of me figure out how you're suppose to get either the phone number or the location of any Hyugetel. I've been reading posts on this thread of peoples' experiences but none of them really say how or where these Hyugetels I've heard so much about are found in the first place. Are there going to be signs around town that say "Hyugetel" (or "rest tel") in Korean? I have no idea where to start the mongering in this city. I've seen a number of "massage" places advertised all over (and I assume those are the happy ending types) and one place with the spinning barber pole (which I heard is basically code for a brothel?) but nothing about Hyugetels. Also from reading on this site and others, it seems like the massage parlors I have found don't even usually offer what I'm looking for anyway, or do they? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

[QUOTE=KMax212;2815950]This post has been exactly the in I've been looking for so thank you for this it's been impossible.

To find this type of site so this is super helpful. Do you know if there are any similar major review sites besides opgani and yamap? Something like this site or ***? Opgani looks like a purely review site oriented around different agencies, whereas this site for example has a place for broader discussion. I'm interested in where to access just general seedy or frank convos from korean netizens that aren't blocked by censors.

Also, any idea on why they require a korean cell number? My korean is pretty good and I'm ethnically korean so I'm surprised they care that much.[/QUOTE]A follow up this would be how to get around this Korean number requirement. Fairly difficult to get a Korean number here outside.

Of the airports or if you're a long term resident with an alien registration card. ESim options are very limited unless you're at the airport (skype calls show up as a different number and get denied, and idk about other things like callhippo. Any advice?

The Korean forum thing is more important tho, if anyone has answers for that.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2816074]A follow up this would be how to get around this Korean number requirement. Fairly difficult to get a Korean number here outside.

Of the airports or if you're a long term resident with an alien registration card. ESim options are very limited unless you're at the airport (skype calls show up as a different number and get denied, and idk about other things like callhippo. Any advice?

The Korean forum thing is more important tho, if anyone has answers for that.[/QUOTE]They require a Korean cell phone number to make sure customers are not cops.

The phone number is also a kind of insurance. If a customer were to do something stupid, they could use the knowledge of the phone number and details on their government issued ID to track them down and punish them.

Such a high barrier to entry obviously prevents sex tourism, but they could care less because they have more than enough customers in country. Therefore, the only way for those not living in Korea to access these places would be if a Korean friend took you along as his plus one. Otherwise, you're totally out of luck.

Keep in mind that these services are extremely difficult for even non-Korean residents to access.

Regarding your other question, DCinside contains some info about the sex industry written in Korean. In one of my past reports, I posted a link to a particularly informative article I found on their site.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2816034]Hi,

I'm trying this forum again to see if I have better luck. I'm currently vacationing in Seoul staying in Jung-gu and I can't for the life of me figure out how you're suppose to get either the phone number or the location of any Hyugetel. I've been reading posts on this thread of peoples' experiences but none of them really say how or where these Hyugetels I've heard so much about are found in the first place. Are there going to be signs around town that say "Hyugetel" (or "rest tel") in Korean? I have no idea where to start the mongering in this city. I've seen a number of "massage" places advertised all over (and I assume those are the happy ending types) and one place with the spinning barber pole (which I heard is basically code for a brothel?) but nothing about Hyugetels. Also from reading on this site and others, it seems like the massage parlors I have found don't even usually offer what I'm looking for anyway, or do they? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks![/QUOTE]As a tourist, you'll only be able to access RLDs and massage parlors, and even these are not sure things.

Concerning RLDs, note that few reports have been written up recently. This is because the biggest and best RLDs (Suwon, 588, and Cheonho) have closed and the remaining ones are under intense pressure from government, land developers, and civic groups. YDP, Hooker Hill, and Miari are mere shadows of what they used to be.

As far as massage shops go, they are everywhere. Whether they're genuine massage shops or fronts for prostitution can be hard to establish. Lucky for you, some have been written about on this forum. Use the search function to see what you can find, but keep in mind that no matter where you go, YMMV.

Try as you might, you won't find hyugetels anywhere. They're all hidden within residential buildings. Imagine a long concrete corridor. Imagine that the corridor has 20 to 30 doors leading to tiny studio apartments and that the building has 15 identical floors. Behind two of the doors there are women, working in so-called Hyugetels, waiting for a phone operator to send men to their studio apartment. As a civilian, you would never know they existed, and as a tourist, no matter how hard you try, you simply won't have access to these places because the phone operators won't deal with you.

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2816031]I was looking through some ads on MR but don't really see anything for number of pops. Do they normally include multiple pops in an hour or is that extra?[/QUOTE]They're independent so there isn't really a norm. If you ask about their service the more professional ones will send a premade image or text with more details. You should just ask if they allow multiple shots. I'd assume that it's an extra charge but depends on the girl. Some reviews mentioned some girls being cool with it.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2816185]They require a Korean cell phone number to make sure customers are not cops.

The phone number is also a kind of insurance. If a customer were to do something stupid, they could use the knowledge of the phone number and details on their government issued ID to track them down and punish them.

Such a high barrier to entry obviously prevents sex tourism, but they could care less because they have more than enough customers in country. Therefore, the only way for those not living in Korea to access these places would be if a Korean friend took you along as his plus one. Otherwise, you're totally out of luck.

Keep in mind that these services are extremely difficult for even non-Korean residents to access.

Regarding your other question, DCinside contains some info about the sex industry written in Korean. In one of my past reports, I posted a link to a particularly informative article I found on their site.[/QUOTE]Again, appreciate the info. Found that article in one of your past posts and had a good read. DCInside is a maze even to someone who has a decent grasp of korean. Some forums are used regularly and others have dust collecting from years of disuse. Do you know if there's particular slang folks use to talk about this or a specific forum where this is discussed? The article you mentioned was randomly in the southeast asia part altho it discusses korean domestic use. I guess maybe sex tourism discussion is just higher in that forum and it bleeds over to this?

Also, do you know if the eSim + phone numbers you can only get at the airport would suffice for the sites on opgani etc? That seems to be the only way to get a korean phone number as a visitor without an ARC, but I'm not sure if that'll be some sort of strange number that IDs you as a visitor that agencies will filter out.

Otherwise I'the have to borrow other people's phones or go with someone basically LOL.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2814637]Which place are you referring to? The Kiss Bang or Massage parlor? Both have been covered in this forum and others areas in Korea. The kiss place is where you can go make out with girls anywhere from early 20's to mid 30's, HJ, BJ, and FS available depending on the girl, YMMV. Some guys have been able to meet these girls outside for fun, as the girl was comfortable enough to give them their KakaoIDs. The massage is just the usual. Only thing I found different about this place is that you pay the girl separately for FS, I rarely visit Seoul or monger there so not sure if this is standard practice for all massage places there. Prices for both have been mentioned on this thread, so I'd go back a few pages for accurate pricing as I don't know them off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]Late response- opgani12 is the site. Bonjovi has mentioned it extensively.

I have been doing my research for an upcoming trip and to be honest, I had kind of given up on any fun while here. I did run across articles and such on the Barber Shops, but everything is from 2019 or earlier. Are these still around? Can a white guy walk in and get service? It actually sound like exactly what I want if possible.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;2816643]I have been doing my research for an upcoming trip and to be honest, I had kind of given up on any fun while here. I did run across articles and such on the Barber Shops, but everything is from 2019 or earlier. Are these still around? Can a white guy walk in and get service? It actually sound like exactly what I want if possible.[/QUOTE]They're less common than they used to be, but they're still around. I'd say the acceptance rate for whites before the pandemic was 70-80%. I haven't been in enough post-pandemic to get a feel for whether or not we're less accepted now, which is possible. It's definitely a case of YMMV. I'd say 60% of the time, you're going to get a HJ, and the other 40% of the time FS. If they charge 70-80, it's probably the former and if it's 100+, probably the latter, but I've gotten FS for 80. The women tend to be older, but sometimes they have younger gals in there too. I think if you go in the morning hours, you're more likely to get a younger one and in the peak hours, you're going to get the oldest one. Some want to do BBFS, so you may want to bring your own hat. I used to get good rimjobs at one near Gildong station, but others reported less success, perhaps with different providers. Even within the same shop, YMMV depending on your provider.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2816864]They're less common than they used to be, but they're still around. I'd say the acceptance rate for whites before the pandemic was 70-80%. I haven't been in enough post-pandemic to get a feel for whether or not we're less accepted now, which is possible. It's definitely a case of YMMV. I'd say 60% of the time, you're going to get a HJ, and the other 40% of the time FS. If they charge 70-80, it's probably the former and if it's 100+, probably the latter, but I've gotten FS for 80. The women tend to be older, but sometimes they have younger gals in there too. I think if you go in the morning hours, you're more likely to get a younger one and in the peak hours, you're going to get the oldest one. Some want to do BBFS, so you may want to bring your own hat. I used to get good rimjobs at one near Gildong station, but others reported less success, perhaps with different providers. Even within the same shop, YMMV depending on your provider.[/QUOTE]Ideally, I would love just a quality BBBJ. It's been ages for a start to finish. 70 to 80 and I would get one every day.

I am staying close to the Lotte Hotel and department store if anyone knows about that area.

Thank you gentleman.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2815418]This may also be breaking a few forum rules but I'm in the same situation (age, background) as you. Any interest in some adventures together?

I usually monger alone but Korea is very receptive to groups and some activities unavailable back in the states are just for non-solo groups (IE drinks+more in hostess bars etc).

Twos would get a lot farther and have more fun than one.[/QUOTE]Hey KMax212,

Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.

I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.

I am heading to seoul at the end of June and wondering if anyone is willing to team up and find some nice places. DM me if you are interested.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2816392]Again, appreciate the info. Found that article in one of your past posts and had a good read. DCInside is a maze even to someone who has a decent grasp of korean. Some forums are used regularly and others have dust collecting from years of disuse. Do you know if there's particular slang folks use to talk about this or a specific forum where this is discussed? The article you mentioned was randomly in the southeast asia part altho it discusses korean domestic use. I guess maybe sex tourism discussion is just higher in that forum and it bleeds over to this?

Also, do you know if the eSim + phone numbers you can only get at the airport would suffice for the sites on opgani etc? That seems to be the only way to get a korean phone number as a visitor without an ARC, but I'm not sure if that'll be some sort of strange number that IDs you as a visitor that agencies will filter out.

Otherwise I'the have to borrow other people's phones or go with someone basically LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't see why a sim from the airport wouldn't work. I think it would be OK.

By the way, you're not simply facing a phone issue. Getting a hold of a Korean phone number is certainly one major hurdle, but the higher mountain to climb is the requirement to provide a photo or scan of an ID card.

Most Hyugetels and OPs want to confirm their customers' identities and this means that new customers are asked to verify who they are by providing valid photo ID. I've had to provide ID twice, which suggests that there are at least two major organizations handling these types of businesses in Seoul and that they each use their own customer database.

Regarding your situation as a non-resident tourist, the issue is whether they will accept your ID. From first hand experience, I know that they accept Korean government issued ID, but I have no idea whether they would accept a passport or ID from another country. I don't believe anyone has posted a report confirming that they have successfully booked an appointment using ID issued outside Korea. This means that you're essentially in uncharted territory, and that any future report you write would be invaluable.

I'm sure a lot of people on this forum would greatly benefit from reading about your upcoming experience. Whether you're able to book an appointment from an online listing or not, please write up a report. I, for one, would be curious to know which types of providers you contacted (Hyugetel, OP, Gunma etc.), what troubles you faced, how far you got in the process, and whether the experience was worth all the hassle.

As always, good luck.

Don't think I'll have a chance to try this out this trip since the rest of my time here is busy, but I will try when I come back next time and report back.

Providing ID is a pretty steep bar, I'm surprised how thorough this verification is and how willing customers are for this. Is there a verification process that agencies use instead? Ie give the number of two other agencies who can vouch for you as a reasonable customer? This is what other agencies in the US do sometimes. Then again, with a centralized DB service it seems like most agencies use, would that even be necessary?

For the IDs you provided, did you provide your ARC card then? Seems like you are a foreigner and yet have Korea-issued ID so seems like that's the only option really? Apologies if I'm prying.

Will certainly report back on any future endeavors but it may be a while from now. I will be doing research on my own around this centralized DB as this is interesting to me for.

General reasons too.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2817099]I don't see why a sim from the airport wouldn't work. I think it would be OK.

By the way, you're not simply facing a phone issue. Getting a hold of a Korean phone number is certainly one major hurdle, but the higher mountain to climb is the requirement to provide a photo or scan of an ID card.

Most Hyugetels and OPs want to confirm their customers' identities and this means that new customers are asked to verify who they are by providing valid photo ID. I've had to provide ID twice, which suggests that there are at least two major organizations handling these types of businesses in Seoul and that they each use their own customer database.

Regarding your situation as a non-resident tourist, the issue is whether they will accept your ID. From first hand experience, I know that they accept Korean government issued ID, but I have no idea whether they would accept a passport or ID from another country. I don't believe anyone has posted a report confirming that they have successfully booked an appointment using ID issued outside Korea. This means that you're essentially in uncharted territory, and that any future report you write would be invaluable.

I'm sure a lot of people on this forum would greatly benefit from reading about your upcoming experience. Whether you're able to book an appointment from an online listing or not, please write up a report. I, for one, would be curious to know which types of providers you contacted (Hyugetel, OP, Gunma etc.), what troubles you faced, how far you got in the process, and whether the experience was worth all the hassle.

As always, good luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KMax212;2817473]Don't think I'll have a chance to try this out this trip since the rest of my time here is busy, but I will try when I come back next time and report back.

Providing ID is a pretty steep bar, I'm surprised how thorough this verification is and how willing customers are for this. Is there a verification process that agencies use instead? Ie give the number of two other agencies who can vouch for you as a reasonable customer? This is what other agencies in the US do sometimes. Then again, with a centralized DB service it seems like most agencies use, would that even be necessary?

For the IDs you provided, did you provide your ARC card then? Seems like you are a foreigner and yet have Korea-issued ID so seems like that's the only option really? Apologies if I'm prying.

Will certainly report back on any future endeavors but it may be a while from now. I will be doing research on my own around this centralized DB as this is interesting to me for.

General reasons too.[/QUOTE]And the most hilarious part is the sub par service you get 80 percent of the time. What a joke.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2817473]Don't think I'll have a chance to try this out this trip since the rest of my time here is busy, but I will try when I come back next time and report back.

Providing ID is a pretty steep bar, I'm surprised how thorough this verification is and how willing customers are for this. Is there a verification process that agencies use instead? Ie give the number of two other agencies who can vouch for you as a reasonable customer? This is what other agencies in the US do sometimes. Then again, with a centralized DB service it seems like most agencies use, would that even be necessary?

For the IDs you provided, did you provide your ARC card then? Seems like you are a foreigner and yet have Korea-issued ID so seems like that's the only option really? Apologies if I'm prying.

Will certainly report back on any future endeavors but it may be a while from now. I will be doing research on my own around this centralized DB as this is interesting to me for.

General reasons too.[/QUOTE]Online bookings have always required some form of ID for verification. A few years back, some places were OK with a picture of a business card (provided it included one's name and cell phone number). Some may still be OK with this, but I think many realized that police could easily make fake business cards, and so started to request official papers instead.

However, as far as I know, this entire process may have changed in the past few years. I provided my ID a long time ago, so I can't say I know for certain that it's done the same exact way now. It's possible that the process of vetting first time customers is different, however, I assume that it wouldn't have changed much because the need to vet customers is as high as ever.

In Korea, the databases are the customer verification process. From what I've read, these databases contain a load of customer information, and this has done away with the need for customers to provide referrals. Instead businesses just query the database to see where customers have been. Apparently, these databases contain a record of visits, course preferences, amounts paid, etc. I believe that the DCinside article also mentioned that the files contain information about customers' attitude, behaviour, or habits as well, I. E. , stinky, overweight, cums quickly, etc.

I am indeed a foreigner and, yes, I provided my ARC. I understand that most people wouldn't want to do this, but it's the only way, and so when in Rome, do as the Romans do.

I'm fairly certain that even foreigners who can read enough Korean to navigate the listings and then speak Korean well enough to call the business operators would be too cautious to provide ID most of the time. This is undoubtedly why so few foreigners use these services.

So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?

Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0000901499[/URL]

Online prostitution mediation site owner sentenced. It's an interesting read for those wondering what's happening to the sex trade in this country.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/032/0003223540[/URL]

If you thought service in Korea was expensive, it is potentially even more expensive than you would have ever thought possible.

The John in the article spent nearly 100,000,000 won a year on one woman, resulting in 900,000,000 won having been spent over roughly 10 years. Doing some napkin math shows that the John could have gotten anywhere from 500 to 1,000 encounters with as many as 500 to 1,000 different women for the same amount of money he paid one woman for one year's worth of service. And only he, her and God know how many times he actually nutted in her each year for such a large sum.

This article is particularly interesting if you read between the lines and extrapolate how this might relate to those of us on this forum. Careful readers might begin to understand why many Korean women won't deal with foreigners. With foreigners who cannot communicate with the women, there isn't the remotest possibility that the women will be able to earn such a large paycheck. All the cute pouting and endless cries of Oppa won't earn a working woman an extra cent. Most foreigners aren't paying for an ego boost and have no intention of becoming the victim of a love scam. I think it's fair to say that we just want to fuck, and a lack of Korean communication skills actually makes us immune to the emotional tactics employed by these women.

Based on the high prices of Korean OP services in Seoul, it is likely that these women are on the hunt for just the sort sugar daddy that's described in the article. Logic suggests that if a guy is willing and able to pay 1,000,000 won for an hour or two, and a women is able to seduce such a guy and make him fall in love, then her potential earnings are limitless. I'm sure not all sugar daddies are this lucrative, but I'm almost certain that the women working at OPs can smell these sorts of guys from miles away.

However, if I had that much disposable income to throw around, who's to say that I wouldn't also pay a stipend or a retainer to keep a bit of young tail nearby. Who knows, maybe this amount of money is like pocket change to these guys.

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2818415]So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?

Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2818415]So on MR I see a few Bella's now. Which one is the recommended one?

Also I saw some reports on Elena (Russian) but don't see one, is she no longer advertising?[/QUOTE]That Elena isn't on MR anymore. Someone mentioned her using photos that weren't her. The Bella with reports here left Korea a long time ago and also isn't on the Seoul MR.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2818581]That Elena isn't on MR anymore. Someone mentioned her using photos that weren't her. The Bella with reports here left Korea a long time ago and also isn't on the Seoul MR.[/QUOTE]Never mind. Elena's ad's up now. Under the name Hot Elena.

I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop. I negotiated her to 160 k Won for 2 pops. Anyway, she refused to do BBFS or CIP even when I offered to throw in an extra 50 k it was just a hardline no for her. Fair enough. So we did do CFS and she also did BBBJ. She was very tight and definitely got my first load out very quickly. The only thing I'd complain about is that the room they put us in had a single bed which barely fit us even though she was short with a spinner type body. Like I would have rather us just go back to my hotel but I get that she had to work and couldn't leave that place.

All in all, both experiences were interesting. Definitely way cheaper than what I'd be able to get back in the US. Idk if I'd want to repeat with either girl simply because I think I could do better? This was my first time mongering in Seoul and I speak 0 Korean.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting. Could you describe the girl, bar, and mamasan? I've only been able to pass by there twice a while ago and didn't see anything tempting.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2819103]Thanks for reporting. Could you describe the girl, bar, and mamasan? I've only been able to pass by there twice a while ago and didn't see anything tempting.[/QUOTE]The mama-san was short and stocky had her hair up in a bun and was wearing what appeared to be a nightgown? I forgot what the name of the place she was at was called, but if you start at the bottom of the hill / street and walk about 2/3 of the way up it'll be about there, on your left. The actual girl was wearing a super lowcut top, her tits like popping out kinda in your face. Her build was average, she wasn't thin but wasn't chubby. It also looked like she had some kind of work done to her hair. Maybe highlights? Or tips? It wasn't quite the jet black Korean hair you expect even though she was Korean.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop..[/QUOTE]You should try YDP RLD and Miari and see how it goes? Those would be my first 2 stops.

[QUOTE=MrFuji;2816952]Hey KMax212,

Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.

I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I would be interested in going as a group somewhere as well.

What is opgani12?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2819627]You should try YDP RLD and Miari and see how it goes? Those would be my first 2 stops.[/QUOTE]I'm not in town anymore but I remember stopping by the YDP RLD and most of the korean girls straight up cold shoulder'd me because I'm not Korean. I didn't try very hard though maybe I'd have better luck if I was a bit more thorough.

MR: nearly every girl on there is an hour with 1 shot making the price more than back in the states. I was able to see Jisoo for 120 k for 15 minutes. Good session.

The Hill:

To those who don't know, the hill itself is pretty empty. The top of the hill is all trans. There is one spot up there, Evergreen, and it was only open on the weekend. Other than that, the rest are at the bottom of the hill and perpendicular to it. There were 4 or 5 places open at various times. Only one that seemed decent was Nymph with I think her name was Mimi, she had a nice body and was youngish at probably 30's. Rest were older from what I saw. Saw her for 80 k.

K:

I did try the kiss bang in Hongik. It cost 80 k for an hour and I could not get a half hour rate to get in. Once in, the girl came in and only offered a HJ after just a couple of minutes of kissing for 50 k. Overall, pretty lame, would not recommend at that price.

YDP:

Went by 2 nights (first time was just to check it out). This is where it is at. Went with one girl who seemed in her 20's and was very hot. As a white guy, most of the girls called me over so they seem willing to see foreigners to me at least. She offered 100 k off the bat and I didn't bother negotiating and just went with it.

Miari:

Was more curious than anything, but if I had a good deal I would have gone in. None were willing to do 2 shots for 100 k which is what I was looking for. Got invited to a few, but the way it is setup just seems really weird and off to me. Just didn't get a great vibe as it is in this dark long alley and the girls are just sitting there once the doors open. I'd much prefer YDP where the girls themselves are the ones calling you over rather than just being sold to you by a Mamason.

MVP-VIP:

Lastly, in Gangnam, went in to this place and they quoted me at 130 k for a half hour. Massage was ok, then the fun afterwards was good. Lady was probably late 30's at best.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

On a separate night, I went to a Thai massage place in Jung-gu that I think was called something like "Siam Massage" or whatever. It was on the second floor of a building on some alley near a hotel. I paid the house fee to get in and I got a super cute Thai girl who was actually young. If I had to guess she was late 20's. The massage itself was actually really good, like if I had just gone there for that and left I definitely would have gotten my money's worth. Anyway, after the flip we started negotiating. She spoke almost no English so I did have to use a translator app (translating into Thai, not Korean LOL). Anyway, she originally asked for 100 k Won for a single pop. I negotiated her to 160 k Won for 2 pops. Anyway, she refused to do BBFS or CIP even when I offered to throw in an extra 50 k it was just a hardline no for her. Fair enough. So we did do CFS and she also did BBBJ. She was very tight and definitely got my first load out very quickly. The only thing I'd complain about is that the room they put us in had a single bed which barely fit us even though she was short with a spinner type body. Like I would have rather us just go back to my hotel but I get that she had to work and couldn't leave that place.

All in all, both experiences were interesting. Definitely way cheaper than what I'd be able to get back in the US. Idk if I'd want to repeat with either girl simply because I think I could do better? This was my first time mongering in Seoul and I speak 0 Korean.[/QUOTE]Was the name of the Thai massage place King Thai what Pho?

[QUOTE=Cork2023;2819951]I would be interested in going as a group somewhere as well.

What is opgani12?[/QUOTE]I would be interested in joining a group to explore. I'll be in Seoul Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday all day.

[QUOTE=Pluto1;2820101]MR: nearly every girl on there is an hour with 1 shot making the price more than back in the states. I was able to see Jisoo for 120 k for 15 minutes. Good session.

The Hill:

To those who don't know, the hill itself is pretty empty. The top of the hill is all trans. There is one spot up there, Evergreen, and it was only open on the weekend. Other than that, the rest are at the bottom of the hill and perpendicular to it. There were 4 or 5 places open at various times. Only one that seemed decent was Nymph with I think her name was Mimi, she had a nice body and was youngish at probably 30's. Rest were older from what I saw. Saw her for 80 k.

K:

I did try the kiss bang in Hongik. It cost 80 k for an hour and I could not get a half hour rate to get in. Once in, the girl came in and only offered a HJ after just a couple of minutes of kissing for 50 k. Overall, pretty lame, would not recommend at that price.

YDP:

Went by 2 nights (first time was just to check it out). This is where it is at. Went with one girl who seemed in her 20's and was very hot. As a white guy, most of the girls called me over so they seem willing to see foreigners to me at least. She offered 100 k off the bat and I didn't bother negotiating and just went with it.

Miari:

Was more curious than anything, but if I had a good deal I would have gone in. None were willing to do 2 shots for 100 k which is what I was looking for. Got invited to a few, but the way it is setup just seems really weird and off to me. Just didn't get a great vibe as it is in this dark long alley and the girls are just sitting there once the doors open. I'd much prefer YDP where the girls themselves are the ones calling you over rather than just being sold to you by a Mamason.

MVP-VIP:

Lastly, in Gangnam, went in to this place and they quoted me at 130 k for a half hour. Massage was ok, then the fun afterwards was good. Lady was probably late 30's at best.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your writeup on your experiences. I still have yet to visit them myself. What did you get at The Hill - 80 k for one shot hh? Same at YDP for 100 k?

[QUOTE=Cork2023;2820264]Thanks for your writeup on your experiences. I still have yet to visit them myself. What did you get at The Hill - 80 k for one shot hh? Same at YDP for 100 k?[/QUOTE]At YDP each girl could be different but been told 100 k for 15 min, 300 k for an hour, 550 k for 2 hours and 700 k for 3 hours. The alley girls said 80 for 15,150 for 30 and around 250 for an hour. Don't recall hh, but with the window girls it's probably 200 or a small discount from that.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819294]The mama-san was short and stocky had her hair up in a bun and was wearing what appeared to be a nightgown? I forgot what the name of the place she was at was called, but if you start at the bottom of the hill / street and walk about 2/3 of the way up it'll be about there, on your left. The actual girl was wearing a super lowcut top, her tits like popping out kinda in your face. Her build was average, she wasn't thin but wasn't chubby. It also looked like she had some kind of work done to her hair. Maybe highlights? Or tips? It wasn't quite the jet black Korean hair you expect even though she was Korean.[/QUOTE]Was the bar modern looking or run down? And was she tall, short, pale, tan, some tats? There's nothing on the left side except a waxing place at the top.

I did find a blonde stocky mamasan and a woman she works with named Michelle. She had streaks in her hair. She was short or average,165 cm maybe 5'5, wearing a one piece dress and tatted on the back, I think. Said her room was up the hill around the corner. Was that her? Didn't go for it, because much older than expected.

Very very interesting. Wouldn't this type of dynamic be the case in most places where there's a big enough industry? I. e. There's always going to be the girls chasing only the home runs like the one mentioned here, but a lot of girls just want enough for the next month too. Unless you think this type of behavior is much more common than what you'the see in other countries like the US, which is an interesting theory. One counterpoint to that would be that I've met girls from Korea who come to the US for holiday for the same type of work and talk about how the money is much much better. These are attractive high end girls too. I wouldn't expect that to be the case if there are so many high flier suckers in Korea.

It could just be simple xenophobia, along with the security measures discussed earlier that locks out foreigners. I've noticed that Korea is getting more and more open to foreigners so I wonder if this will change too.

As always, appreciate you keeping an eye on the industry from a broader POV and sharing with us. Out of curiosity, do you always keep an eye out in the news for this industry specifically? Or are you just very good at keeping up with current events in general in Korea. Either way kudos.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2818528][URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0000901499[/URL]

Online prostitution mediation site owner sentenced. It's an interesting read for those wondering what's happening to the sex trade in this country.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/032/0003223540[/URL]

If you thought service in Korea was expensive, it is potentially even more expensive than you would have ever thought possible.

The John in the article spent nearly 100,000,000 won a year on one woman, resulting in 900,000,000 won having been spent over roughly 10 years. Doing some napkin math shows that the John could have gotten anywhere from 500 to 1,000 encounters with as many as 500 to 1,000 different women for the same amount of money he paid one woman for one year's worth of service. And only he, her and God know how many times he actually nutted in her each year for such a large sum.

This article is particularly interesting if you read between the lines and extrapolate how this might relate to those of us on this forum. Careful readers might begin to understand why many Korean women won't deal with foreigners. With foreigners who cannot communicate with the women, there isn't the remotest possibility that the women will be able to earn such a large paycheck. All the cute pouting and endless cries of Oppa won't earn a working woman an extra cent. Most foreigners aren't paying for an ego boost and have no intention of becoming the victim of a love scam. I think it's fair to say that we just want to fuck, and a lack of Korean communication skills actually makes us immune to the emotional tactics employed by these women.

Based on the high prices of Korean OP services in Seoul, it is likely that these women are on the hunt for just the sort sugar daddy that's described in the article. Logic suggests that if a guy is willing and able to pay 1,000,000 won for an hour or two, and a women is able to seduce such a guy and make him fall in love, then her potential earnings are limitless. I'm sure not all sugar daddies are this lucrative, but I'm almost certain that the women working at OPs can smell these sorts of guys from miles away.

However, if I had that much disposable income to throw around, who's to say that I wouldn't also pay a stipend or a retainer to keep a bit of young tail nearby. Who knows, maybe this amount of money is like pocket change to these guys.[/QUOTE]

My own apologies now for the delayed response. I missed your initial response somehow. Agreed that there's a whole world just for groups (as well as discounted rates sometimes I hear if the group is big enough) and I'the be excited to explore. I didn't even realize opgani had a messaging / reservation system. I just saw phone numbers mentioned everywhere so assumed that was it. Is it their own messaging system? Or just email or something you message separately?

The forum messaging system is odd. My google-male is my username here x 2 if you want to reach out to me there. (kmax212 kmax212).

[QUOTE=MrFuji;2816952]Hey KMax212,

Sorry for the late reply, was away from my computer for a bit. I would be open to it. The shirt rooms, NRBs, and host bars require a group and would be scary as hell to enter alone. But I can't figure out the messaging system and don't know enough about the forum rules though. If you have any bright ideas, I'm all ears.

I will report back that I've had good success getting a couple hyugatels and kiss rooms from opgani12 to send me their line-ups and start the reservation process. It's got to be 100% in Korean and I'm starting to pick up the lingo they use. About 75% of them asked me to call though to confirm which is where I hit a roadblock as I don't have a Korean phone but hoping to pick up a burner tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Hi long time lurker infrequent poster. I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt, I assume the best place walking distance to look is Itaewon?

Anyone know if the Hyatt is girl friendly? Any chance of any action from the bar?

Where is the Hill?

And MR is what website.

I have a thing for Russian / Eastern European women, wondering what I can expect to pay in Seoul. Is there anywhere to find those in the wild?

Thanks and hope to share my results. I often use Seeking in the US, and am trying for Seoul as well but the numbers I am getting back are ridiculous $600 USD.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2820572]My own apologies now for the delayed response. I missed your initial response somehow. Agreed that there's a whole world just for groups (as well as discounted rates sometimes I hear if the group is big enough) and I'the be excited to explore. I didn't even realize opgani had a messaging / reservation system. I just saw phone numbers mentioned everywhere so assumed that was it. Is it their own messaging system? Or just email or something you message separately?

The forum messaging system is odd. My google-male is my username here x 2 if you want to reach out to me there. (kmax212 kmax212).[/QUOTE]Sent a message, maybe check your junk / spam folder if you don't see it.

[QUOTE=OohxTasty10;2819025]I spent about 1 week in Seoul and here are two reports I wanted to post about.

I went to Itaewon RLD on a Thursday evening (I thought avoiding the weekend would get me a better deal). There weren't that many women working that night, but one of the mama-sans did hook me up with a girl who claimed to be 33. Now, I'm a 32 year old guy so I can confidently say that this girl was closer the 43 than she was to 33 LOL. But that's okay, because she was actually pretty hot and had a really good attitude. To me attitude especially matters a lot since I don't want it to feel like a mechanical chore. Also, she was Korean which is what I was hoping for as well. Anyway, she took me to a private room nearby. I paid 140 k Won for 1 hour of service which included BBFS and CIP, which I was able to do two pops in that hour. The mama-san and the girl both had decent English, I didn't need a translator app at all (I speak no Korean BTW).

[/QUOTE]What was the name of the shop and where was it? 140 K for 2 shots is a decent deal here, especially if the provider was friendly.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2820570]Very very interesting. Wouldn't this type of dynamic be the case in most places where there's a big enough industry? I. e. There's always going to be the girls chasing only the home runs like the one mentioned here, but a lot of girls just want enough for the next month too. Unless you think this type of behavior is much more common than what you'the see in other countries like the US, which is an interesting theory. One counterpoint to that would be that I've met girls from Korea who come to the US for holiday for the same type of work and talk about how the money is much much better. These are attractive high end girls too. I wouldn't expect that to be the case if there are so many high flier suckers in Korea.

It could just be simple xenophobia, along with the security measures discussed earlier that locks out foreigners. I've noticed that Korea is getting more and more open to foreigners so I wonder if this will change too.

As always, appreciate you keeping an eye on the industry from a broader POV and sharing with us. Out of curiosity, do you always keep an eye out in the news for this industry specifically? Or are you just very good at keeping up with current events in general in Korea. Either way kudos.[/QUOTE]I follow the news in general and the news of this industry in particular because I find it fascinating.

You're right that paying huge amounts for sex isn't a practice unique to Korea. I'm sure that there are plenty of women looking for a big pay day and a fair amount of men willing to cough up large amounts of cash all over the world. However, I think the practice is more prevalent in Korea where the tradition of professional mistress has been ingrained as an accepted part of Korean culture for generations.

Let me try to explain in further detail.

From dating to marriage and even to family, gender roles are clearly delineated along similar boundaries across East Asia, and the same can be said for 'relationships' in the sex industry. Now we all know that Koreans hate when Japan is mentioned in the same breath, but there's no point in denying that both countries have strikingly similar attitudes toward women in general and sex in particular, and because the Japanese sex industry is more of an open book, I'll use it to draw out a couple of comparisons that might help illuminate the scene in Korea.

Take hostess clubs as one example of a unique sexual business found in East Asia. I know these businesses are far more common in Japan, but Korea has similar establishments where guys pay to spend time with fully clothed women. Koreans and Japanese alike seem to value spending time with charismatic, charming young women in settings where they can drink, eat, and be merry. This isn't to say that Westerners wouldn't enjoy such an experience; of course they would, but I doubt they would pay for it. And even if such a business existed in the US, it would never be quite as mainstream as in East Asia.

The equivalent in the US might be a strip club, but the experience is completely different. At hostess clubs the women flirt, pour drinks, and light cigarettes. At strip clubs the women are less functional and more ornamental; they provide nothing more than visual stimulation. This might be a particularly reductive way of understanding cultural difference between East and West, but I think it reveals an essential point of distinction between eastern and western attitudes toward women.

One of those differences is the value of virginity and the myth of sexual purity. As far as I can tell, it is important in every culture, but its importance has waned in the West while remaining relatively high in the East. And I contend that this value gets projected onto the sex industry. Consider that women at strip clubs get naked and spread their legs for everyone to see in a public demonstration. We westerners revel in such unbridled, animalistic sexuality. In contrast, I think East Asians like the tease. They enjoy the illusion that they alone might persuade a woman to take off her clothes. East Asian men value women that are only sexual in their presence, I. E. , they like a woman who is only horny for one guy. We might think it is strange that notions of purity have become entwined in the sex trade, or even doubt that such ideas are true, but consider whether there is another place in the world like Miari where prostitutes wear wedding dresses. Of course, there isn't much of a tease at Miari, but it still projects an ideal that is completely at odds with prositution.

Personally, I'm fine with a place like Miari where I know that there's action to be had, but I'm less inclined to spend money on hostesses because the experience is much more like dating in that there is no guaranteed outcome. The only guarantee is that the woman will be polite and flirtatious. When I've gone to hostess clubs I have always felt like I was being strung along, but my East Asians friends were of the mindset that "this is what I came for and this is what I like. " They enjoy the tension, and even though they pay, it was somehow important that they "earn" whatever service they might manage to get from a woman, and so whether it be a flirtatious look, a kiss, or full service in a hotel later that evening, the next day, or the next week the men could believe that it wasn't purely transactional even though they likely paid a large sum of money for the service.

This isn't to say that Korean guys are immune to the allures of a quick BJ or full service massage, but these are offered at other types of sex businesses and by other types of women. These women are sluts and working girls whereas hostesses are something different. Prostitutes in Korea can thus be categorized according to their professionalism, education, and availability. The less available, the more they are in demand. I guess what I'm saying is that the idea of the high end prostitute is further divided in Korea such that some high end prostitutes rarely even have sex and yet earn large amounts of money.

I also think paying large sums for sexual services is more common in Korea because even in the biggest western cities, where men would be most likely to spend exorbitantly, there are only a handful of gentlemen's clubs. And although there might be lots of AMPS and plenty of escort services, there are still far fewer sex services on offer than in just about any East Asian city where countless hostess clubs, noraebang, massage parlors, and the like take up space in every neighborhood.

What I don't know (and which might account for the reason Korean women work in the US) is how much of the money spent in Korea goes to the women. Considering how many pretty women there are in Korea, they might be easily replaceable and thus less able to negotiate for a larger piece of the pie. Also, Koreans have to compete with young attractive Thai and Vietnamese women who are coming in droves to work in Seoul these days. All of these factors may push down their take home pay and prompt them to seek work abroad.

I imagine the US is an attractive destination for Korean women because they can charge higher prices on average and also earn in a currency that is much stronger than the won. The market in the US is willing to bear higher prices because average incomes are higher in the US (the US average income is almost double Korea's average income). Second, American women in the aggregate are relatively less attractive which puts a price premium on attractive women. Third, although prostitution is illegal in the US and Korea, it is seemingly more illegal in the US which has the effect of pushing prices even higher. Taking this into consideration, I'm almost certain that there is less supply and more demand for good-looking prostitutes in the US, and I think it's safe to assume that Koreans who go to the US are able to fill up every available appointed time in their schedule should they wish.

One final thought on an already overly long post is that there's probably also less emotional work for the Korean women working in the US. Unlike in Korea, they don't need to establish an emotional connection or pretend to be pure and innocent with customers in the US. Westerners are much more likely to get right down to business. Add to this the fact that Korean women can live relatively anonymously in the US, which is hard to do in a place like Korea, and it makes a ripe environment for Korean women who might want to get away for a while.

Hello, I'll be in Seoul and have a couple meetings lined up. I would like to have a nice love motel with a large enough jacuzzi for two or three prople to jave some fun in. I thouhjt here wiuld be a good place to ask. Any recommendations?

New Hyugetel. Booked an appointment. Once again, the building I was sent to was conveniently located near my office.

The operator who responded to my text used English and didn't require that I call. I should say that this isn't the norm, but that from time to time it does happen. Of course, it was nice to be able to book the appointment entirely through text.

To be honest, the ads for this Hyugetel listing weren't promising as the women didn't look particularly great. All the women's weights were between 40 kg and 50 kg, but their photos showed thick and chunky upper arms, leading me to believe that the details were fabricated. Regardless, I was feeling too horny to pass.

Thankfully, I lucked out and the listed descriptions were actually more accurate than the photos. The woman I chose was thinner and more beautiful than she appeared in her photo, leading me to believe that they must have simply used a bad photographer, a cheap phone camera, or both.

Though they did not lie about the weight of the women, I found out that they fabricated their ages. The woman I met told me that she was 35 even though she was advertised as a 29 year old. It's not unusual for these women to be a few years older than their advertised age, but a 6 year age gap for a woman who had newly arrived in Korea is a larger gap than I expected. That being said, she seemed younger than she was, was prettier than I expected, had a trimmed but furry Bush, all natural but still pert tits, and a sopping wet pussy that didn't require any lube after a bit of DATY.

I had a better than expected experience and will return again when I get another break during the work day.

40 minutes Bbfscip 120,000 won.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2825906]New Hyugetel. Booked an appointment. Once again, the building I was sent to was conveniently located near my office.

The operator who responded to my text used English and didn't require that I call. I should say that this isn't the norm, but that from time to time it does happen. Of course, it was nice to be able to book the appointment entirely through text.

To be honest, the ads for this Hyugetel listing weren't promising as the women didn't look particularly great. All the women's weights were between 40 kg and 50 kg, but their photos showed thick and chunky upper arms, leading me to believe that the details were fabricated. Regardless, I was feeling too horny to pass.

Thankfully, I lucked out and the listed descriptions were actually more accurate than the photos. The woman I chose was thinner and more beautiful than she appeared in her photo, leading me to believe that they must have simply used a bad photographer, a cheap phone camera, or both.

Though they did not lie about the weight of the women, I found out that they fabricated their ages. The woman I met told me that she was 35 even though she was advertised as a 29 year old. It's not unusual for these women to be a few years older than their advertised age, but a 6 year age gap for a woman who had newly arrived in Korea is a larger gap than I expected. That being said, she seemed younger than she was, was prettier than I expected, had a trimmed but furry Bush, all natural but still pert tits, and a sopping wet pussy that didn't require any lube after a bit of DATY.

I had a better than expected experience and will return again when I get another break during the work day.

40 minutes Bbfscip 120,000 won.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this review. Can you do me some details so I can partake as well? Or at least where you found the info. TIA.

[QUOTE=Jjmanse;2826409]Thanks for this review. Can you do me some details so I can partake as well? Or at least where you found the info. TIA.[/QUOTE]Check out opgani14.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2826600]Check out opgani14.[/QUOTE]Great site, I have been lurking around on it.

I have been to Korea before and thought how hard can it be to find some fun around. Turns out when you don't speak a word of Korean and there are about 15 businesses in every building, its overwhelming and hard to find what one is looking for (America it's pretty easy to walk / drive down the street and find a sketchy massage where extras are guaranteed). Additionally, most sites which even referenced 'dirty things' were blocked and I had no access on my phone which I was not prepared for LOL.

I am going to Korea again this year and now am taking a methodical approach and planning, I want to find a couple of itineraries so that anyone can find it easily (once done I want to post it here to help others).

I have read some things about Anma (Erotic Sauna) and its something I definitely want to try. A lot of information even on this site is pre-COVID 19 and COVID changed everything where I can see from street-view things aren't there anymore.

1. Can someone recommend a few places that will have the girl bathe with you and sex after?

2. On the opgani14 website has anyone tried the "Fetish" section girls? (I have a feeling it won't work unless I speak Korean, but maybe someone made it work).

I ultimately want to create a map of debauchery around Soul; couple of kiss rooms, couple of massages, etc. Depending on what I want to try that day.

[QUOTE=Abder5;2828394]Great site, I have been lurking around on it.

I have been to Korea before and thought how hard can it be to find some fun around. Turns out when you don't speak a word of Korean and there are about 15 businesses in every building, its overwhelming and hard to find what one is looking for (America it's pretty easy to walk / drive down the street and find a sketchy massage where extras are guaranteed). Additionally, most sites which even referenced 'dirty things' were blocked and I had no access on my phone which I was not prepared for LOL.

I am going to Korea again this year and now am taking a methodical approach and planning, I want to find a couple of itineraries so that anyone can find it easily (once done I want to post it here to help others).

I have read some things about Anma (Erotic Sauna) and its something I definitely want to try. A lot of information even on this site is pre-COVID 19 and COVID changed everything where I can see from street-view things aren't there anymore.

1. Can someone recommend a few places that will have the girl bathe with you and sex after?

2. On the opgani14 website has anyone tried the "Fetish" section girls? (I have a feeling it won't work unless I speak Korean, but maybe someone made it work).

I ultimately want to create a map of debauchery around Soul; couple of kiss rooms, couple of massages, etc. Depending on what I want to try that day.[/QUOTE]When will you be visiting? I might be able to help with a few areas. Mostly Anmas.

I've been trying to shoot my shot on Opgani14 with zero luck. The only way it seems I'll breach is if I find a random local to assist me or make really good friends with someone on this board. LOL.

Little overdue, April report.

Tiffanys in Gangnam.

Was unfortunately hit with the "Caucasian" price as the MMS put it. Had limited time and and itch to scratch so I gave in. Standard procedure with the lockers, showers, ect.

Eventually am told to come to the club hallway with the nice lady who would take care of me. (Didn't catch her name, English was non-existant). Got to sit at the stool in the hallways as she BBBJ and two of her friends were feeling me all over and kissing everyone. Got to do Doggy in the hallway as well. Moved into the room to finish first shot. Quick rinse, drink break, and BBBJ with all the standard positions, finished in Doggy again. Said goodbye and MMS sent me on my way, ensuring to tell me to come back. LOL, not sure if I will.

300 k.

Went to the RLD in Youngdeungpo around 8:30 on a Monday night, maybe 7-8 places open. Shot down. Went to a bar for a few drinks and walked back. A few more places open. Shot down again. So I went to opgani and called all the hyugyetel around the area. No luck. Finally went for a Gunma. I wanted a fuck, not just a HJ, which is usually what the gunmas will give, but by this point I needed some kind of release, so I started calling the Gunmas.

Need at least a little Korean to make these calls (I tried just sending message, but got no replies, called and was shot down. Finally, got one that was fine with foreigners. It is in the entertainment district across from the RLD.

I saw a nice Chinese girl (she said she was from Nanjing). Pay up front 100 k to the house, you go in, have a shower and then the provider comes in and tells you to lie down face down.

The massage is pretty good. She spends a good amount of time on your shoulders, back and hips. Then she uses the oil to do the same area. After that, she'll go out and get some hot towels, which she puts on your back and shoulders. Then she'll focus on your legs and butt, doing much of the same. I am not an expert of massages, but I'd say this is quite relaxing, yet deep enough to have some benefit.

Once she is done with the actual massage, she will take off the hot towels and wipe off the excess oil. Then she begins a nice catbath. She covers your whole backside, and then you flip over. She'll work her way up your legs and suck on your balls and dick and begin a light BBBJ. Then she moves up to get the rest of your body and moves back down and plays with your dick some more. IT was really good.

She asked me if I want sex, only 50 k! Yes, please!

So, she goes out and grabs a condom. Back in and another enthusiastic BBBJ. DATY is available. On with the cover and she is actually quite tight. Enjoyed myself and was on my way.

150 k for a nice 1 hour long massage with catbath, ccbj and CFS is a pretty decent deal. So good in fact, I went twice! I wanted to see another girl, but at the time I went, only she was available, but I was told another time to catch a different girl, but didn't have the time to go again.

Of course, YMMV, but I was glad I took the chance.

[QUOTE=Phloppy;2828683]Finally, got one that was fine with foreigners. It is in the entertainment district across from the RLD.[/QUOTE]Please: a business name, address, or description of the building / sign.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2828664]When will you be visiting? I might be able to help with a few areas. Mostly Anmas.

I've been trying to shoot my shot on Opgani14 with zero luck. The only way it seems I'll breach is if I find a random local to assist me or make really good friends with someone on this board. LOL.[/QUOTE]I will be there for the month of November.

About Opgani14, I see. I will expect the worst.

[QUOTE=Abder5;2828394]Great site, I have been lurking around on it.

I have been to Korea before and thought how hard can it be to find some fun around. Turns out when you don't speak a word of Korean and there are about 15 businesses in every building, its overwhelming and hard to find what one is looking for (America it's pretty easy to walk / drive down the street and find a sketchy massage where extras are guaranteed). Additionally, most sites which even referenced 'dirty things' were blocked and I had no access on my phone which I was not prepared for LOL.

I am going to Korea again this year and now am taking a methodical approach and planning, I want to find a couple of itineraries so that anyone can find it easily (once done I want to post it here to help others).

I have read some things about Anma (Erotic Sauna) and its something I definitely want to try. A lot of information even on this site is pre-COVID 19 and COVID changed everything where I can see from street-view things aren't there anymore.

1. Can someone recommend a few places that will have the girl bathe with you and sex after?

2. On the opgani14 website has anyone tried the "Fetish" section girls? (I have a feeling it won't work unless I speak Korean, but maybe someone made it work).

I ultimately want to create a map of debauchery around Soul; couple of kiss rooms, couple of massages, etc. Depending on what I want to try that day.[/QUOTE]You're right. Korea has changed substantially since 2019, and I worry that most of the reports written before that no longer contain much practical information.

To answer your first question, I think some of the anmas offer a soapland type experience, but I'm not sure which of them do. If you've read the forum, then you'll have heard about the club experiences at places like Donuts and Tiffany. Both have English language websites with maps and directions, and both seem to accept foreign customers. However, the service is a bit pricey.

To address your other question, I have to state the obvious, which is that without a working knowledge of Korean you're going to have a hard time gaining access to services on Opgani. In particular, the niche services such as fetish are almost certainly unavailable to foreigners. Even those of us who speak Korean aren't able to book at such places. I'm not saying you shouldn't call, but don't get your hopes up and prepared to be rejected a lot. Check out Phloppy's recent report where he mentioned that the was rejected by all but one shop in a neighborhood.

Good luck.

Also, I want to post some recent news. Check out the link below which reports that crackdowns are hitting closer to home. The article reports that a Hyugetel in Songpa was recently busted.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011916798[/URL]

I can't be certain that this is one of the Hyugetels that I've been to, but as a regular in the Jamsil area it is entirely possible. I've noticed that a handful of Jamsil area ads have been pulled down in the past few months. Two of them were places I regularly visited. Unfortunately, the news articles doesn't mention the Hyugetel that was busted by name.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2828832]You're right. Korea has changed substantially since 2019, and I worry that most of the reports written before that no longer contain much practical information.

To answer your first question, I think some of the anmas offer a soapland type experience, but I'm not sure which of them do. If you've read the forum, then you'll have heard about the club experiences at places like Donuts and Tiffany. Both have English language websites with maps and directions, and both seem to accept foreign customers. However, the service is a bit pricey.

To address your other question, I have to state the obvious, which is that without a working knowledge of Korean you're going to have a hard time gaining access to services on Opgani. In particular, the niche services such as fetish are almost certainly unavailable to foreigners. Even those of us who speak Korean aren't able to book at such places. I'm not saying you shouldn't call, but don't get your hopes up and prepared to be rejected a lot. Check out Phloppy's recent report where he mentioned that the was rejected by all but one shop in a neighborhood.

Good luck.

Also, I want to post some recent news. Check out the link below which reports that crackdowns are hitting closer to home. The article reports that a Hyugetel in Songpa was recently busted.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011916798[/URL]

I can't be certain that this is one of the Hyugetels that I've been to, but as a regular in the Jamsil area it is entirely possible. I've noticed that a handful of Jamsil area ads have been pulled down in the past few months. Two of them were places I regularly visited. Unfortunately, the news articles doesn't mention the Hyugetel that was busted by name.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Hyugetels, is that different than Resttels? I've gotten pretty far into the "reservation" process with a couple Resttels only to hit the same reservation deposit schtick towards the end. In all my experiences, I've never deposited in any of my hobbies except very exceptional situations.

Have you ever ran into being asked to deposit funds prior to booking?

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2828879]Speaking of Hyugetels, is that different than Resttels? I've gotten pretty far into the "reservation" process with a couple Resttels only to hit the same reservation deposit schtick towards the end. In all my experiences, I've never deposited in any of my hobbies except very exceptional situations.

Have you ever ran into being asked to deposit funds prior to booking?[/QUOTE]Yes. Hyugetel translate directly to rest-tel. It shares its root with the word hyugeso, which you might recognize as the name for highway rest stop in Korea.

If you're being asked to make a deposit, you're being jerked around. Payment is always in cash and it's always paid to the woman at the location. Words to such effect are also posted on many of the ads. Scammers have gotten hold of some phone numbers used by these businesses and tried to bait money out of guys.

FYI, among all the places I've ever contacted in Korea, I've never been asked to send payment in advance. To make sure that they get paid for each appointment, the operator usually sends a stock message stating that failure to show will result in being black listed. So, if you book an appointment, make sure to be on time. If you don't show up, they'll block your number.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2828909]Yes. Hyugetel translate directly to rest-tel. It shares its root with the word hyugeso, which you might recognize as the name for highway rest stop in Korea.

If you're being asked to make a deposit, you're being jerked around. Payment is always in cash and it's always paid to the woman at the location. Words to such effect are also posted on many of the ads. Scammers have gotten hold of some phone numbers used by these businesses and tried to bait money out of guys.

FYI, among all the places I've ever contacted in Korea, I've never been asked to send payment in advance. To make sure that they get paid for each appointment, the operator usually sends a stock message stating that failure to show will result in being black listed. So, if you book an appointment, make sure to be on time. If you don't show up, they'll block your number.[/QUOTE]Great information man, I appreciate all your contributions. I'll keep fishin'.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2828879]
Have you ever ran into being asked to deposit funds prior to booking?[/QUOTE]Never have, never will. I've done a few Hyugyetels in my day, and never had to deposit. It screams scam to me.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2828703]Please: a business name, address, or description of the building / sign.[/QUOTE]On opgani, it is listed as beauty girl. Ad is nothing like reality. It is a massage shop with a little play (YMMV) and the fun time transaction is with the provider.

Korean is a must as the girl who answers the phone has zero English. She seems foreign, but her Korean is pretty good. As is usually the case, I would love to have been massaged by her!

[QUOTE=Phloppy;2829081]On opgani, it is listed as beauty girl. Ad is nothing like reality. It is a massage shop with a little play (YMMV) and the fun time transaction is with the provider.

Korean is a must as the girl who answers the phone has zero English. She seems foreign, but her Korean is pretty good. As is usually the case, I would love to have been massaged by her![/QUOTE]The business names on Opgani are usually different from the ones on the actual place of business. Was Beauty Girl on the 2nd floor with the shop name 'Secret'?

Finally made it. And it was amazing.

Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message. Thankfully he was willing to work with me and the managers were friendly enough to me. He tells me a location to arrive at and to send him a text message when I do. I arrive near a 7 Eleven and he instructs me with the exact location. I go up a nearby elevator and and he buzzes me in.

I pay for the Relay Course. One shot + rest + One shot.

Familiar SOP to other places I've been to. He leads me to a room and kindly instructs me to take a shower and return to the room.

First manager walks in, believe her name was something like Yujin? Either way, she's a solid 7+ in the petite department. She has some small English speaking skills so we had minor introductions and she was very nice. She starts with the usual chest kissing and licking, and moves down to the main event. Fairly decent BBBJ, a little fast paced for me and not deep or sloppy enough. But it's fine. She works that for about 10 minutes, then applies lube to HJ me and goes back to the chest licking. I get close, she gets the hint, and takes the CIM like a champ. Was a fairly large load. She asks me how long I'd like to rest, I hit the showers and come back to the room to cool down.

Manager #2 walks in. Talkin? Taljin? Her English was worst but she was a solid busty 8+ with short hair. She hits business the same exact procedure, except hers is just a tad bit wetter, deeper, and slurpier. She actually makes me bust in literally about 5 Minutes, I couldn't hold out. She takes the CIM impressively well and kept locked on until the sensation passed.

10/10. Exactly the kind of service I needed.

Damage: 90 k.

Edit; Also, if anyone can help identify some of these terms I couldn't figure out on their menu? I'm aware of the terms post that BonJovi made some time ago in this thread, but they weren't covered in there.

성탈

관잔

버가

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2829284]Finally made it. And it was amazing.

Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message. Thankfully he was willing to work with me and the managers were friendly enough to me. He tells me a location to arrive at and to send him a text message when I do. I arrive near a 7 Eleven and he instructs me with the exact location. I go up a nearby elevator and and he buzzes me in.

I pay for the Relay Course. One shot + rest + One shot.

Familiar SOP to other places I've been to. He leads me to a room and kindly instructs me to take a shower and return to the room.

First manager walks in, believe her name was something like Yujin? Either way, she's a solid 7+ in the petite department. She has some small English speaking skills so we had minor introductions and she was very nice. She starts with the usual chest kissing and licking, and moves down to the main event. Fairly decent BBBJ, a little fast paced for me and not deep or sloppy enough. But it's fine. She works that for about 10 minutes, then applies lube to HJ me and goes back to the chest licking. I get close, she gets the hint, and takes the CIM like a champ. Was a fairly large load. She asks me how long I'd like to rest, I hit the showers and come back to the room to cool down.

Manager #2 walks in. Talkin? Taljin? Her English was worst but she was a solid busty 8+ with short hair. She hits business the same exact procedure, except hers is just a tad bit wetter, deeper, and slurpier. She actually makes me bust in literally about 5 Minutes, I couldn't hold out. She takes the CIM impressively well and kept locked on until the sensation passed.

10/10. Exactly the kind of service I needed.

Damage: 90 k.

Edit; Also, if anyone can help identify some of these terms I couldn't figure out on their menu? I'm aware of the terms post that BonJovi made some time ago in this thread, but they weren't covered in there.

성탈

관잔

버가[/QUOTE]Great post. Thanks for writing up the report. I've never been to a lip cafe before, but based on your report it sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. Also, great value for money.

Any idea of how long they might let you wait between shots. Do you think they would let you nap for an hour?

Great post. Thanks for writing up the report. I've never been to a lip cafe before, but based on your report it sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. Also, great value for money.

Any idea of how long they might let you wait between shots. Do you think they would let you nap for an hour?

상 탈 means topless.

올 탈 means fully naked.

버 거 or 햄 버 거 means tit fuck.

부 비 부 비 means body to body grinding.

69 관 전 means spectate. In the context of the 69, it means you can watch but not touch. In others words, the woman will get in 69 position and blow you while you stare at her pussy.

69 역 립 means you can participate and touch. In other words you can kiss back.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2829537]Great post. Thanks for writing up the report. I've never been to a lip cafe before, but based on your report it sounds like a great way to spend an afternoon. Also, great value for money.

Any idea of how long they might let you wait between shots. Do you think they would let you nap for an hour?[/QUOTE]That's a good question actually. The first manager asked me how long I needed, I told her about 15 m, second manager walked in right about the 20 m mark, which I didn't mind. I'm sure if theyre not busy they might be lenient to a little nap if that's what you wanted haha.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2829537]
상 탈 means topless.

올 탈 means fully naked.

버 거 or 햄 버 거 means tit fuck.

부 비 부 비 means body to body grinding.

69 관 전 means spectate. In the context of the 69, it means you can watch but not touch. In others words, the woman will get in 69 position and blow you while you stare at her pussy.

69 역 립 means you can participate and touch. In other words you can kiss back.[/QUOTE]TY so much. Going to see if I can tailor a course request with this information.

[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2829196]The business names on Opgani are usually different from the ones on the actual place of business. Was Beauty Girl on the 2nd floor with the shop name 'Secret'?[/QUOTE]No, it was 4th floor. Name was Hu Body something.

Ok, I've had some time to digest this, so here goes.

I had a 3 hour appointment with a provider I had wanted to see for a long while. We had been texting back and forth for a few weeks and the anticipation for me was through the roof. I badly wanted to see her! Well, she canceled on me the day before ("I have a cold.").

So I messaged a few others to try and fill the massive void. Right away Nami came to my rescue and said she would like to meet me. Ok, done.

Well, the next day she goes silent. No messages all day, so I start trying to find another appointment.

Another provider says, yes I'm available. Ok, tell her the time and amount of hours I want. Couple hours later, and oh, I have another client, can we meet after midnight? Well, no, I have an early flight. So on to another, I have a couple bites, but not at optimum time or amount of time.

Finally, Nami responds back (hour after our agreed upon time). She had to take her cat to the vet. Ok, I am an animal lover myself, so I understand. We are able to arrange a meeting still, so I get ready to meet her.

Her incall place is a bit dingy, and already I can tell I'm not really in the mood. I should have just canceled. But, you know how it goes.

Anyway, she washes me (no shower together, she already showered.) Into the room, and right away she goes into a BBBJ. Now, I had booked 2 hours. I wanted to take my time, get to know her and her body (which is quite nice, BTW.) but she had other plans. Well I couldn't perform well. I got hard enough to fuck her once, but it was lackluster. While in mish, I was going to kiss, but she was closed mouth. No DFK. So I bust, she cleans me up, and cleans herself, then we cuddle and talk.

She is a nice girl. Good conversation. All while she was stroking me, trying to get a reaction, but I was done. I ended up leaving after 45 minutes.

A shame, really. I had wanted to see Nami at some point as she is well reviewed and she is quite beautiful with all the right curves.

I would say this is 70% on me that we didn't have a good time, but there were several things that she could have done better.

I should have just found a hyugyetel or lip cafe. But after so many call and rejections, its easy to go with the sure thing.

I've had excellent experiences on MR with Valentina and Riko/Emily, and Nami was highly recommended.

As always in this hobby, YMMV.

Thanks for the report! How did you find the establishment? I was wanting to visit during my trip to Korea too. I tried looking up Honey Cafe but couldn't find anything in Korean either.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2829284]Finally made it. And it was amazing.

Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message. Thankfully he was willing to work with me and the managers were friendly enough to me. He tells me a location to arrive at and to send him a text message when I do. I arrive near a 7 Eleven and he instructs me with the exact location. I go up a nearby elevator and and he buzzes me in.

I pay for the Relay Course. One shot + rest + One shot.

Familiar SOP to other places I've been to. He leads me to a room and kindly instructs me to take a shower and return to the room.[/QUOTE]

What is generally the type of place where the provider showers together with you before massage and FS?

[QUOTE=LaraTuty;2829644]Thanks for the report! How did you find the establishment? I was wanting to visit during my trip to Korea too. I tried looking up Honey Cafe but couldn't find anything in Korean either.[/QUOTE]Countless hours of contacting locations on Opgani. You'll need to register for an account there.

Went back for another quick release.

They only had one manager working today so the options available, along with the courses, were limited. I pulled the trigger anyways since I enjoyed the last visit.

Went for a Nude+69+Touch/Kiss course. 70 k₩.

Standard fair. Manager was probably a 6. 5. Definitely cute and super friendly. Nice natural be cups and okay butt. Her BBBJ was decent, HJ, and lastly finished CIM in 69.

Overall, not as good as last time, but it's hard for me to turn down a CIM experience with younger cute girls.

Just wanted to note that the MR regular TiffanyHuang is also on LiveJasmine webcams. I still can't figure out of she is TR or not.

Contacted a fairly new Hyugetel in Jamsil. They only had two women listed, but they both offered anal under their optional services, leading me to believe that these two women would be up for anything.

When I reached out, the operator responded in English, which was a pleasant surprise. However, his immediate response was concern with my dick size. He said I could book an appointment, but that the women would reserve the right to ask me to leave after I dropped my trousers. Considering that I hadn't even mentioned that I was interested in the anal course yet, the chance that I would get good service didn't bode well.

As I didn't want to waste a perfectly good evening, I booked at an old familiar Hyugetel in Jamsil instead. However, the new woman I booked was 10 years older than advertised and nearly 10 kilos heavier. This didn't spoil the mood too much as she had a great attitude and offered great service, but I was surprised by the bait and switch. I was expecting a lovely, shapely, well-endowed young woman to open the door and I was instead provided a mom. It seems that some Hyugetels aren't quite as dependable as they once were. I hope my recent experiences are a blip rather than a trend.

60 min bbfscip plus an extra HJ 150,000 won.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/025/0003288641[/URL]

The operator of one of the large customer databases was busted. Read the article to get a sense of how and why the databases are used. It's really quite fascinating.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2830171]Just wanted to note that the MR regular TiffanyHuang is also on LiveJasmine webcams. I still can't figure out of she is TR or not.[/QUOTE]Aren't all the "girls" on MR trans?

First time poster here but just want to make this post since a lot of the info was really buried deep into this forum so this is for the lazy people who don't read too far back.

First thing first if you want to engage in any type of Hyugetel a Korean phone number is a must so when you arrive to Korea and want to indulge in these you should get a sim card with call and text.

I was able to contact some of these hyugetel because I borrowed a Korean phone from a relative (hopefully they never find out because that would be hella awkward) for context I am half Korean so I know how to speak a small amount of Korean and thankfully it was good enough to make a appointment but God bless imagine translating to help understand the services and location I had to go.

Also going to piggyback on a older post from Bonjovi3, there is zero chance you will ever randomly find these hyugetel I got a reservation for a hyugetel at guyu-dong and it was inside a upper scale building with no name at the entrance of the building that requires a code to even enter the elevator.

The girl has big tits but she was Taiwanese so her small Korean and my small Korean made conversation extremely low so it was shower fun and smashed and leave.

Overall cost was 170 k for 70 mins bbfscip body was a 9 - sex was feels great but doesn't have that GFE feel it during the post nut recovery or during the 2nd go.

Would tried to go for more but I didn't feel like pushing my luck when I am not using my own phone so maybe the next time I won't get a esim and just a calling sim instead.

Hey buddies,

I am coming to Seoul next week on a business trip, but want to have some fun too. I heard that Seoul has some red light areas like Amsterdam for fun. Do you guys have recommendations for me?

If you can share contact details of any cuties who can come to a 4/5 star hotel within reasonable price, please share. It will be a great help.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2828832]You're right. Korea has changed substantially since 2019, and I worry that most of the reports written before that no longer contain much practical information.

To answer your first question, I think some of the anmas offer a soapland type experience, but I'm not sure which of them do. If you've read the forum, then you'll have heard about the club experiences at places like Donuts and Tiffany. Both have English language websites with maps and directions, and both seem to accept foreign customers. However, the service is a bit pricey.

To address your other question, I have to state the obvious, which is that without a working knowledge of Korean you're going to have a hard time gaining access to services on Opgani. In particular, the niche services such as fetish are almost certainly unavailable to foreigners. Even those of us who speak Korean aren't able to book at such places. I'm not saying you shouldn't call, but don't get your hopes up and prepared to be rejected a lot. Check out Phloppy's recent report where he mentioned that the was rejected by all but one shop in a neighborhood.

Good luck.

Also, I want to post some recent news. Check out the link below which reports that crackdowns are hitting closer to home. The article reports that a Hyugetel in Songpa was recently busted.

[URL]https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011916798[/URL]

I can't be certain that this is one of the Hyugetels that I've been to, but as a regular in the Jamsil area it is entirely possible. I've noticed that a handful of Jamsil area ads have been pulled down in the past few months. Two of them were places I regularly visited. Unfortunately, the news articles doesn't mention the Hyugetel that was busted by name.[/QUOTE]I have completed a list which by no means is everything, but a starting number see attached pdf "New Microsoft Excel Worksheet".

Here is a link to some that I managed to map [URL]http://u.osmfr.org/m/932409/.[/URL] (Most I guess due to crackdowns don't give an address).

For the ones with the phone #'s as other members mentioned send them a message in Korean telling them you are a foreigner (no reply propably means they are not interested LOL).

References:

[URL]https://opgani14.com[/URL]

[URL]https://oping33.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://lonelynight.net/[/URL]

[URL]www.mybodyshop.co.kr[/URL] (Has both dirty and real massages).

[URL]https://141hongkong.com/[/URL] (Another form with good info use Google Translate).

Went back for a relay course.

First up was 이슬. Cute petite body, overall BBBJCIM was a 6/10.

After shower and break, second girl was 달고나. She's got to be my favorite. Great technique, pace and champ when it comes to taking the full load. Same deal, BBBJCIM, 8/10. She does this thing, which I think is called Blue Dragon? Where she will "clean" your member by continuing to go down on you with a splash of mouth wash in her mouth. It's an interesting sensation and I can't say no to her continuing to suck.

Overall, had a good time. Dmg was 130 to include 69 with both.

[QUOTE=Jcbro;2831210]First time poster here but just want to make this post since a lot of the info was really buried deep into this forum so this is for the lazy people who don't read too far back.

First thing first if you want to engage in any type of Hyugetel a Korean phone number is a must so when you arrive to Korea and want to indulge in these you should get a sim card with call and text.

I was able to contact some of these hyugetel because I borrowed a Korean phone from a relative (hopefully they never find out because that would be hella awkward) for context I am half Korean so I know how to speak a small amount of Korean and thankfully it was good enough to make a appointment but God bless imagine translating to help understand the services and location I had to go.

Also going to piggyback on a older post from Bonjovi3, there is zero chance you will ever randomly find these hyugetel I got a reservation for a hyugetel at guyu-dong and it was inside a upper scale building with no name at the entrance of the building that requires a code to even enter the elevator.

The girl has big tits but she was Taiwanese so her small Korean and my small Korean made conversation extremely low so it was shower fun and smashed and leave.

Overall cost was 170 k for 70 mins bbfscip body was a 9 - sex was feels great but doesn't have that GFE feel it during the post nut recovery or during the 2nd go.

Would tried to go for more but I didn't feel like pushing my luck when I am not using my own phone so maybe the next time I won't get a esim and just a calling sim instead.[/QUOTE]Nice report Jcbro, and thanks for the shout out.

Great to see that you did your research. I think a lot of guys underestimate how difficult it can be to use the online ads. However, your report proves that with enough determination (and Korean language skills) it is entirely possible to line up an appointment.

You're right that GFE can be hard to get. I've really only ever gotten GFE when I've repeated with women who are able to speak decent English and / or Korean. Unfortunately, a lot of women only speak Thai. GFE is also hard to get because the women often move from Hyugetel to Hyugetel thus making it almost impossible to line up a second appointment with a great provider. That being said, I've scored with gems who offered outstanding service on the first go a handful of times. What distinguished these women was that they were genuinely excited to be with a white guy.

Concerning your family, I hope you at least deleted the messages and call history from the phone you used. You never know when another family member, perhaps a wife or girlfriend, might snoop around and stumble across the messages.

[QUOTE=Koharski;2831078]Aren't all the "girls" on MR trans?[/QUOTE]I don't know where people get that. I've been with a few MR ladies and tgey certainly weren't trans.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2831606]Went back for a relay course.

First up was 이슬. Cute petite body, overall BBBJCIM was a 6/10.

After shower and break, second girl was 달고나. She's got to be my favorite. Great technique, pace and champ when it comes to taking the full load. Same deal, BBBJCIM, 8/10. She does this thing, which I think is called Blue Dragon? Where she will "clean" your member by continuing to go down on you with a splash of mouth wash in her mouth. It's an interesting sensation and I can't say no to her continuing to suck.

Overall, had a good time. Dmg was 130 to include 69 with both.[/QUOTE]Would you mind providing the name in Korean? I tried looking looking through all the ads on opgani in Korean but I can't find anything named Honey within Seoul.

[QUOTE=LaraTuty;2831895]Would you mind providing the name in Korean? I tried looking looking through all the ads on opgani in Korean but I can't find anything named Honey within Seoul.[/QUOTE]I think the place he's talking about is actually in Seongnam, not Seoul proper. You'll see it listed on the site there under the Korean word for honey.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2829284]Finally made it. And it was amazing.

Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message.[/QUOTE]Any chance you could share location and digits?

[URL]https://www.ilyosisa.co.kr/mobile/article.html?no=239975[/URL]

This article provides a recent history of the online sex services in Korea and highlights some of the recent issues being faced.

This was a while ago, I contacted a blonde euro girl whose ad has been down since. Met at the public meeting point where she gave excuses and said to meet her friend instead. She sent me pictures that are the same as the ad from MR "Becky European". A group of at least 6 girls past by. Noticably because they're all foreign, all average at best. Then one of those girls, who could be the same as Becky's pics approached alone. Didn't notice her body but remember that her face was too unacceptable. She apologized and we parted. Just a warning.

The stars aligned and I finally managed to get anal at a Hyugetel. There aren't too many women that offer it, and even when I've met women that offer anal I've been told that they won't do it for me. Therefore, it's been years since I have been able to fuck a woman in the ass, but on this occasion it all worked out.

Knowing that anal is often not on offer, when I found a women offering it at a Hyugetel that I regularly visit, I sprung at the chance to make a reservation. To be perfectly honest, I asked trepidatiously, assuming that I would get a flat no, but I was assured by the operator that it was certainly an available option.

Like all other experiences at Hyugetel, the deed started with a BBBJ. After that she was ready to get right to the anal, but I slid into her pussy first and pumped away for a while before pulling out so she could guide me into her ass while still in the missionary position.

Because it was anal, lots of lube was used, but it wasn't overly slippery. In fact, it felt fantastic. As I stated earlier, I hadn't done anal in a few years but it was just as good as I remembered. I have to say, there's something particularly sexy about anal in missionary. The sight of a woman's open pink pussy right above my dick moving in and out of her ass is as good as it gets.

One extra note. The woman I chose was a +1, meaning that her services always cost 10,000 won extra compared to other women listed on the same advertisement. Other than the fact that she did anal, which I paid extra for anyway, the +1 price didn't mean she was more beautiful nor better at any particular service. In fact, she was a worse kisser than a lot of other women I've seen and she wasn't really excited about DATY. On top of these facts she had an average body at best.

Paying more doesn't seem like it's worth the extra cash, but it seems like women charging +1 or +2 are becoming more and more common. That being said, it was worth it for the chance to do anal.

190,000 won 40 minutes BBFS anal.

One extra point I'd like to add is that photos on ads seem to be more heavily photoshopped than ever before. There was a time when the Hyugetels that accepted me had near 100% accurate photos. In some cases the photos were a few years old or maybe the woman's face had been erased for privacy reasons, but her body had been completely unaltered.

However, these days, photoshopping has become excessive, and it seems that more and more places are now employing it in their ads to remove belly fat, alter breast shape, and beautify faces. It's a disappointing trend because it is no longer quite as clear what type of women will show up in the bedroom.

Great find! Can you provide the name of the establishment?

There has been a (supposed) Khazak advertising on CL lately. Early 20's student. Looks Korean. About 5'2" tall and petite. "Looking for any kind of job". Beware. Real or not, she is a flake who strings things along for days and tries to hike prices after finally agreeing to a meeting. Seemed a lot like someone just playing around. It was. Odd.

First evening in town and only had a short window so decided to review the forum and find and easy and sure thing for a non Asian guy.

Ended up choosing Tiffany Anma. [URL]https://www.tiffanyanma.com[/URL].

Logistics: Convenient location south of the river, just a couple blocks south west of Gangnam metro station. There is a nice picture walking reference on the website which is helpful as many of the nearby buildings have similar looking signage. Find the door they highlight and take and elevator to the fourth floor.

Setup: the website purports that there are three different experiences on three different floors. This wasn't offered to me or doesn't exist any more. Instead, I entered on Floor 4, where someone immediately asked me to me receive my shoes which were put in a small locker. I was escorted to a nearby desk where they asked for payment. The woman asked my nationality and then quoted me 360,000. I showed her the price on the website was 260,000 and she said that was only for Asians. If I had more time to spare I may have just left at that point but instead agreed to split the difference at $310,000.

They directed me to another locker room where I removed the rest of my clothes, showered, but on a bath robe that they provided and was given a key.

Immediately outside the bar room is a lounge with sports playing. They offered me tea, coffee, or water. After a couple of minutes a girl came over to ask what kind of girl I like. She seemed to think a slightly taller one was good for me, and I said fine. Shortly, they escorted me upstairs to floor 5 to a room with two cots on the floor, a bathroom, and a dresser. While it wasn't necessarily impressive it was at least clean. I assumed this is where the fun would happen. Nope! After making me wait around 10 min a guy appears and takes me back to the 4th floor. This time we go through a locked door into a hallway that is setup like a club. Music is playing, lights are flashing. The doors to adjacent rooms are all open and naked woman and men are going about their business. I am introduced to Gabi. A slender, attractive early thirties woman who speaks pretty good English. She guides me to an open room and showers me. The room has both a table shower and bed. We sit down on the bed and she offers me another drink and a smoke. Within a few minutes of talking another girl wanders in the room from the hallway pulling an Asian guy in tow by his dick. It was a funny experience. We just kind of chit chatted while we both touched the girls and they played with our cocks. After a couple minutes the other couple moves out and Gabi gets down to business.

She does a body slide on my back for a while then instructs me to raise my ass a bit. She proceeds to shove her tongue up my ass while stroking my cock. After a couple minutes of that she asks me to flip over and she moves into 69. Sometime during the 69 she managed to slide a condom on my cock because after a while she pops up and starts to cowgirl me. She was a fun sexy ride with good talk and porn star clit rubbing. I have a hard time blowing in bag so she said I could cum in her mouth.

Mission accomplished I returned to the locker room area, collected my stuff with out incident and moved on.

It was a fun experience, Gabi was fun a sexy, and I'm glad I went once, but this is so much pricier than the rest of Asia where I can get basically the same service for half the price.

I'm town for a couple more days and would appreciate any advise on where to go for a little better deal. BBFS preferred.

Bit of a downer report but figure I'd add it to be informative. I'll keep it short.

Doing my rounds on Opgani, found a place that accepted foreigners. Pictures, options and pricing look amazing, and the manager is willing to let me make a reservation. He gives me directions and instructions upon arrival.

I go up to a small apartment and am greeted by a lady named Anna. Not representative of the pictures but she's a solid Petite 9/10. She greets me and instantly goes to texting her phone, with I assume the manager, then claims there's a mistake with the room and person I reserved with.

I meet the manager downstairs, super nice dude, claims there's a mistake and promises me another option. He works a bit on his phone and coordinates a new room / lady.

Go up to new room, Ava. Russian lady, probably a 5/10. Very average and lots of blatant work on her face. Same story. Greets and claims confusion error.

Meet back downstairs with the manager who apologizes profusely and talks about how he doesn't understand these women. Essentially boiling down to the typical no foreigners policy some ladies have and the scary thought of a bigger dong hurting them.

He buys me a drink and we chat a bit and part ways.

I am on holiday in Seoul and have walked past this hotel a couple of times and noted some interesting things.

There's a tent set up outside with lots of keys hanging on hooks on the wall. A few guys always sitting outside and questioning the people who go in.

Lots of cars coming and going with men.

Only women I noticed were a couple of attractive ones in dresses leaving the hotel.

Looks like a very obvious brothel operation going on but I thought it had to be more hidden in Korea?

Doing some searching I only found one reference to hotel Sunshine on these forums from way back in 2002.

Anyone know what's going on here?

I'm looking to go to Korea, does anyone know more affordable areas and agencies, independent workers, etc? Is there a guide? I was in Thailand for a bit, the prices were excellent. There were even more ways to save, like being a sugar daddy. Korean women are some of my absolute favorites, including those K-pop plastic surgery ones. Or the pretty and petite ones. Does anyone know ones that are more affordable I've heard of ones that cost 700 k won, but that's way out of my price range. I prefer a smaller amount cause I'm going to be out there for a while. In Thailand, you get someone who's a 10/10 to do a whole night or even a whole day for less than 3,000 baht. Any advice or pointers?

I did here about one area in Seoul or something. But in the past months or so it pretty much got collapsed or something.

[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2839319]I'm looking to go to Korea, does anyone know more affordable areas and agencies, independent workers, etc? Is there a guide? I was in Thailand for a bit, the prices were excellent. There were even more ways to save, like being a sugar daddy. Korean women are some of my absolute favorites, including those K-pop plastic surgery ones. Or the pretty and petite ones.[/QUOTE]Korean prices are comparable to other developed countries like in Europe. The cheapest are the 3 RLDs at 100 k for 15-20 min depending on the place.

Yeongdeungpo is the best one with in terms of looks and variety but not all will take in foreigners. At the top of my head, at least 10 do. Itaewon's hooker hill is for foreigners but the woman there are very old. It's small, maybe 10 woman in total. It's a good location because your better off meeting normal girls who are way hotter anyway. Miari is quite bad, old and unintersting overall but there are maybe less than a handful of petite, plastic surgery, kpop wannabes, and atleast 1 with an good natural look. There on or near the normal paved road as opposed to farther into the little alleys.

Without korean skills and a korean number, other options will run you 300 k plus per hour. You can negotiate to 200 k with some. Websites for independents are massagerepublic, cityoflove, topescortbabes. If you know korean and have a korean number some members have written guides about opstar or opgani. Also on this subforum, do a search for what establishments you're looking for such as kiss room or kissbang, massage or anma, lip cafe etc. And you'll find info about what's already been written.

If you're willing to leave Seoul, an hour away there's an RLD in Dongducheon Jungang. It's 50 k for 15 min and at that same rate, 200 k per hour. I heard there's a lot of uglies but some cute and sexy ones too. Can't personally vouch for it though. It's an hour north of Seoul accessible from subway line 1 station's name is the same.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2839623]If you're willing to leave Seoul, an hour away there's an RLD in Dongducheon Jungang. It's 50 k for 15 min and at that same rate, 200 k per hour. I heard there's a lot of uglies but some cute and sexy ones too. Can't personally vouch for it though. It's an hour north of Seoul accessible from subway line 1 station's name is the same.[/QUOTE]It's been 30 yrs since I've been to Dongducheon the girls were low quality then, and sound like it's the same now. The only good thing about Dongducheon, was getting custom made suits and shoes for the cheap. Wondering if the bar at the Hamilton hotel Itaewon still a good pickup for the high end Korean girls.

A whole load of Hyugetels have gone out of business and a whole bunch of others no longer answer the phone.

In addition, I have recently noticed that some Hyugetels have changed their phone numbers repeatedly with one in particular changing numbers 4 times in as many weeks. As if this wasn't strange enough, there has also been far less churn among the women offered by each establishment.

My gut tells me that these irregularities are a result of the arrest of the customer database application manager earlier this summer. From the outside, I would hazard that there has been a fair bit of upheaval in the industry and that the dust still hasn't totally cleared.

There has been some other high profile news lately that may be putting additional unwanted pressures on the industry. A young lawmaker from Jeju has been accused of using sex services and a judge from the down south was caught red-handed at a brothel in Gangnam.

Pingping from MR:

Met up for an Incall at a hotel. 9/10 hot body. Amazing BBBJ. Various positions and finish in the cover. Sliiightly rushed but she was super nice. Don't know if I would repeat you less the menu opened up more.

Donuts in Gangnam:

First time visit. Mentioned being first timer, Singaporean, and another fourm they advertise on. I go through the historically documented prep process and go to a waiting room. I made the mistake of going around 6 PM, asking for club service. I'm told that doesn't start until 8, but I'm already there so I end up settling for regular 1 on1. The lady is probably late 20's, very petite, fake Cs, and a pretty disappointed ass (my most preferred feature). Slight disappointment in attraction but glad I stuck it out. Her BBBJ was probably top tier in my book, along with her rimming. Blew twice, once in the cover and another she swallowed. Didn't catch name. Overall positive experience considering the situation in Korea as a foreigner.

Saori:

Met for incall. 2 shots, CBJ and FS multiple positions. Showered offered. Meh. Wouldn't repeat.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2840321]My gut tells me that these irregularities are a result of the arrest of the customer database application manager earlier this summer. From the outside, I would hazard that there has been a fair bit of upheaval in the industry and that the dust still hasn't totally cleared.

There has been some other high profile news lately that may be putting additional unwanted pressures on the industry. A young lawmaker from Jeju has been accused of using sex services and a judge from the down south was caught red-handed at a brothel in Gangnam.[/QUOTE]Do you think this situation will cause the industry to become even more restrictive than it already is going forward? I've never seen this type of events play out in other locations I've hobby'd.

Wondering if anyone's tried Poli, the Russian gymnast on MR?

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2840410]Pingping from MR:

Do you think this situation will cause the industry to become even more restrictive than it already is going forward? I've never seen this type of events play out in other locations I've hobby'd.[/QUOTE]Korea definitely isn't like other countries.

To answer your question, I do think the business will become more restrictive in the future. The government is under a lot of pressure to eliminate these businesses and so crackdowns are going to continue.

Some civic group even floated the idea of making sex reviews illegal. This would criminalize sites like opgani and the users who post on them. Of course, anonymity would make enforcement impossible, but the mere fact that people are proposing such ideas means that the pressure on the industry is almost certainly going to stay amped up.

However, I don't think there will be any additional restrictions on foreigners. It's already hard enough for us to make appointments and therefore I think it will simply remain as difficult an endeavor as it already is.

Going forward, the greatest difficulty will be faced by foreign tourists looking for some fun. Within the next few years the last of the RLDs will be bulldozed for redevelopment and once they're gone guys without knowledge of the local scene will have their access to services severely diminished.

Thanks for sharing your experience at HotPlace. I've had the same experience at other Hyugetel. It's an awful waste of time to be rejected like that. It was particularly interesting to read that the manager met up with you to share a drink. I guess he must have been able to speak English fairly well?

Just the other week I got the OK to make an appointment at new Hyugetel in Nohyeon, after which the manager ghosted me for 4 hours before replying that "none of the available women are willing to work with a foreigner today. Call back when the lineup changes. ".

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2841505]Wondering if anyone's tried Poli, the Russian gymnast on MR?[/QUOTE]Not yet. Hoping to catch her before she leaves. She has a video recording option, which is huge for me. Also, her telegram channel has tons of pictures and video clips, so she seems fairly legit to pull the trigger on.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2840321]A whole load of Hyugetels have gone out of business and a whole bunch of others no longer answer the phone.

In addition, I have recently noticed that some Hyugetels have changed their phone numbers repeatedly with one in particular changing numbers 4 times in as many weeks. As if this wasn't strange enough, there has also been far less churn among the women offered by each establishment.

My gut tells me that these irregularities are a result of the arrest of the customer database application manager earlier this summer. From the outside, I would hazard that there has been a fair bit of upheaval in the industry and that the dust still hasn't totally cleared.

There has been some other high profile news lately that may be putting additional unwanted pressures on the industry. A young lawmaker from Jeju has been accused of using sex services and a judge from the down south was caught red-handed at a brothel in Gangnam.[/QUOTE]I'm generally very quiet on this forum and don't post a lot but thought I should post about this. While I don't visit Hyugetels, I've spent quite a bit of time at OPs and VVIPs and gotten direct contact info from the women that work in those places or at room salons, etc. Last month, one of the girls I see every month or two told me there was a recent bust on a fairly large OP in Gangnam. I also noticed that a large number of OPs changed their names and phone numbers around then. I was told by her that the people that run the OPs met up and decided to change their names and numbers.

I've also heard through other girls that talk with the bookers that there is an ongoing crackdown in the Gangnam area right now by the police for VVIPs establishments. I can also confirm that there were a few VVIPs that I've used that suddenly went dead. Before their account went dead, I was able to get contact info for some of the girls and talking to them directly, they told me they were shut down by the cops. For people that use VVIPs, be extremely careful around the Gangnam area right now. They are looking for people that go into hotels / motels alone. They are basically staking out some spots and will approach you when you leave and pressure you into admitting that you committed prostitution.

For foreigners that get caught and are just visiting Korea, it's probably not going to be a huge deal because you will just leave Korea anyway. The main impact I can see it having would be delaying when you can leave since you'll have to deal with the legal fallout. However, for foreign residents of Korea if you get caught and get fined over 3 million KRW, you face the possibility of deportation.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2831606]Went back for a relay course.

First up was 이슬. Cute petite body, overall BBBJCIM was a 6/10.

After shower and break, second girl was. She's got to be my favorite. Great technique, pace and champ when it comes to taking the full load. Same deal, BBBJCIM, 8/10. She does this thing, which I think is called Blue Dragon? Where she will "clean" your member by continuing to go down on you with a splash of mouth wash in her mouth. It's an interesting sensation and I can't say no to her continuing to suck.

Overall, had a good time. Dmg was 130 to include 69 with both.[/QUOTE]Where is this?

Got a number or link?

[QUOTE=JackHadda;2843447]Where is this?

Got a number or link?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure I can't post these here. Check the quote below and follow those threads though. It's not very hard to find.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2831951]I think the place he's talking about is actually in Seongnam, not Seoul proper. You'll see it listed on the site there under the Korean word for honey.[/QUOTE]

Have a 12 hour (6 am to 6 pm) layover in Seoul and booked a hotel at Incheon Airtel by the airport. Any recommendation to find something that will be open to foreigners? I read some reports about Hyugetels in Dongdaemun, Gangnam. Can someone please share names of these places?

Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2845782]Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great review!

Don't you usually need verification for hyugetels? How did you get around that as a foreigner? I want to go but that's the only thing that's holding me back.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2845782]Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.[/QUOTE]Don't you need verifications for hyugetels? How did you get around that? I can speak fluent Korean but that's the part that always concerned me.

[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2842051]I'm generally very quiet on this forum and don't post a lot but thought I should post about this. While I don't visit Hyugetels, I've spent quite a bit of time at OPs and VVIPs and gotten direct contact info from the women that work in those places or at room salons, etc. Last month, one of the girls I see every month or two told me there was a recent bust on a fairly large OP in Gangnam. I also noticed that a large number of OPs changed their names and phone numbers around then. I was told by her that the people that run the OPs met up and decided to change their names and numbers.

I've also heard through other girls that talk with the bookers that there is an ongoing crackdown in the Gangnam area right now by the police for VVIPs establishments. I can also confirm that there were a few VVIPs that I've used that suddenly went dead. Before their account went dead, I was able to get contact info for some of the girls and talking to them directly, they told me they were shut down by the cops. For people that use VVIPs, be extremely careful around the Gangnam area right now. They are looking for people that go into hotels / motels alone. They are basically staking out some spots and will approach you when you leave and pressure you into admitting that you committed prostitution.

For foreigners that get caught and are just visiting Korea, it's probably not going to be a huge deal because you will just leave Korea anyway. The main impact I can see it having would be delaying when you can leave since you'll have to deal with the legal fallout. However, for foreign residents of Korea if you get caught and get fined over 3 million KRW, you face the possibility of deportation.[/QUOTE]Thanks for affirming my impression of what's happening in Seoul these days, and respect for writing such a detailed post.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2845664]Have a 12 hour (6 am to 6 pm) layover in Seoul and booked a hotel at Incheon Airtel by the airport. Any recommendation to find something that will be open to foreigners? I read some reports about Hyugetels in Dongdaemun, Gangnam. Can someone please share names of these places?[/QUOTE]Neither of those neighborhoods are "near" the airport, but they're certainly doable during a long layover.

Anyone know if Tiffany's is running and safe for caucasian foreigners?

I spent the last to weeks in Seoul didn't get the opportunity to play. Ate in several different neighborhood where signs indicated services was available especially around universities. I was traveling with wife and friends and at karaoke I asked for a girl and the manager ask me what I like but all the wives shut that down. I think there is fun to be had if you have the time and opportunity to play.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2845782]Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Where exactly is this Hyugetel?

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2845782].... I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. .....[/QUOTE]Don't understand this problem with the American package. The MP girls in the States have no difficulty with it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2849108]Don't understand this problem with the American package. The MP girls in the States have no difficulty with it.[/QUOTE]Some definitely do, at least based on self-reported reviews from braggadocious Johns. Also, the MP women coming to the states to work at least have the understanding that they'll be seeing mostly foreign clientele.

[QUOTE=RubberDuckyBos;2849300]Some definitely do, at least based on self-reported reviews from braggadocious Johns. Also, the MP women coming to the states to work at least have the understanding that they'll be seeing mostly foreign clientele.[/QUOTE]Is Braggadocious Johns a review site? I know of T E R, but have never heard of this. Do you have a URL? Google search produces nothing.

Any tips of thai massage places in Seoul with young and attractive girls?

[QUOTE=Phloppy;2849522]Is Braggadocious Johns a review site? I know of T E R, but have never heard of this. Do you have a URL? Google search produces nothing.[/QUOTE]LOL no its not a site. I'm saying people who report reviews who brag about their size.

[QUOTE=RubberDuckyBos;2850164]LOL no its not a site. I'm saying people who report reviews who brag about their size.[/QUOTE]It should be a site!

Anyways, yeah. I consider myself to be very average in size, yet I have Korean providers telling me I am too big all the time. Maybe they think it turns me on? (I have no reaction to that, same as licking my nipples.) I've always found it strange when they did that.

Visiting Seoul for the first time. Is there a RLD in Seoul that operates during the daytime and can be visited during a long layover? Yeongdeungpo, Itaewon hooker hill, Miari? Is there any Hyugetel or massage place close to Insadong?

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2851341]Visiting Seoul for the first time. Is there a RLD in Seoul that operates during the daytime and can be visited during a long layover? Yeongdeungpo, Itaewon hooker hill, Miari? Is there any Hyugetel or massage place close to Insadong?[/QUOTE]Most of those RLDs aren't open in the daytime. YDP A row opens strictly at 8 but there are old ugly ladies in the little ally and on the outside road in the daytime. Hooker hill is slightly better than those ally women look wise but still not worth it. Earliest I've noticed on passing was at the weekend around 4:30 to 5. Just one house.

Don't have much experience at miari. I can just say at night only the houses on the main normal street as opposed to all those allies are the girls more attractive. In the ally only the places right next to the street did I see one or two decent ones. So I doubt any good girls would be available daytime.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2851341]Visiting Seoul for the first time. Is there a RLD in Seoul that operates during the daytime and can be visited during a long layover? Yeongdeungpo, Itaewon hooker hill, Miari? Is there any Hyugetel or massage place close to Insadong?[/QUOTE]There is a massage place called 시50516;53440;51060; that gives extras near dongdaemun design plaza.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/2hWzTUdA6veett2s7[/URL]

You will go slightly into the alley but you see the entrance. Head up the steps and ring the bell to be let in.

They only do walk-ins or same day appointments, no appointments a day or prior ahead.

Pay for the massage (starting at around 50,000 won) and then negotiate with the girl in the room for extras (HJ starting at 50,000 won).

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=BobJohn123;2851381]There is a massage place called 시50516;53440;51060; that gives extras near dongdaemun design plaza.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/2hWzTUdA6veett2s7[/URL]

You will go slightly into the alley but you see the entrance. Head up the steps and ring the bell to be let in.

They only do walk-ins or same day appointments, no appointments a day or prior ahead.

Pay for the massage (starting at around 50,000 won) and then negotiate with the girl in the room for extras (HJ starting at 50,000 won).

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]How're the women and FS there, any recommendations?

[QUOTE=BobJohn123;2851381]There is a massage place called 시50516;53440;51060; that gives extras near dongdaemun design plaza.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/2hWzTUdA6veett2s7[/URL]

You will go slightly into the alley but you see the entrance. Head up the steps and ring the bell to be let in.

They only do walk-ins or same day appointments, no appointments a day or prior ahead.

Pay for the massage (starting at around 50,000 won) and then negotiate with the girl in the room for extras (HJ starting at 50,000 won).

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. I'll be sure to check out.

Does anyone have info on kiss bang locations and open hours? I really like GFE once in a while, and came to know there are a few of them, Hongdae, Namdaemun, Sillim.

Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).

Thanks for the report! Do you usually tell them you're not Korean when you text in Korean (or do you text in English)? I'm heading to Seoul soon so I'd appreciate the help.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2852284]Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LaraTuty;2852444]Thanks for the report! Do you usually tell them you're not Korean when you text in Korean (or do you text in English)? I'm heading to Seoul soon so I'd appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]Always tell them I'm an English Speaker / American. They will be able to tell if you are fairly quickly, or when you eventually show up. You don't want to be in a situation where you spend so much effort coordinating to ultimately be told No at showtime.

[QUOTE=LaraTuty;2852444]Thanks for the report! Do you usually tell them you're not Korean when you text in Korean (or do you text in English)? I'm heading to Seoul soon so I'd appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]I texted one place from Opgani and he / she asked what course and time I wanted. I texted back that I wasn't Korean and that was the end of the conversation, so it is helpful to be upfront or else you may standing outside an apartment ringing a doorbell with no answer.

My observations from Opgani have been that Hyugetels are mostly Thai and Gunmas are almost always Korean. The only exception to Thai Hyugetels are the One Shops, which are mostly Korean.

The prices also run much different. For the Koreans, the options are basic (or not told up front) and consist of something around 90,000 for massage / handplay, 130,000 for massage / VIP (FS I assume). For the Thai girls, it's wide open and upfront. 80,000 for 30 minutes one shot, 130,000 for 60 minutes, multiple shots, as many shots as you want, BBFS, BBFSCIP, anal, dildoes, whatever you want. It's pretty obvious the difference between the two.

I haven't tested it yet, but I'm willing to bet that it's usually the Thai providers that are going to be pimped out to foreign customers versus the Korean girls who will shut you off from the start. Just my thoughts, will be interesting to hear if Bon Jovi or another has a similar experience.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2853517]My observations from Opgani have been that Hyugetels are mostly Thai and Gunmas are almost always Korean. The only exception to Thai Hyugetels are the One Shops, which are mostly Korean.

The prices also run much different. For the Koreans, the options are basic (or not told up front) and consist of something around 90,000 for massage / handplay, 130,000 for massage / VIP (FS I assume). For the Thai girls, it's wide open and upfront. 80,000 for 30 minutes one shot, 130,000 for 60 minutes, multiple shots, as many shots as you want, BBFS, BBFSCIP, anal, dildoes, whatever you want. It's pretty obvious the difference between the two.

I haven't tested it yet, but I'm willing to bet that it's usually the Thai providers that are going to be pimped out to foreign customers versus the Korean girls who will shut you off from the start. Just my thoughts, will be interesting to hear if Bon Jovi or another has a similar experience.[/QUOTE]You're spot on.

Overall, I've had better luck getting into Hyugetel, but they are also where I've put the most effort into being accepted. I put all my eggs in the Hyugetel basket because I like the direct access to services as well as the youth and beauty of the Thai women working in Korea.

The gunma I've been to have only Korean women, but they have never offered me full service on the first visit. That being said, all the women I met told me to come back again on a second visit for the real deal. I've generally not returned. Even with the temptation of full service, the women don't seem to be very open to kissing, definitely insist on condoms, and tend to be older than I want. Gunma women are fine, but they don't look like all the 20 to 40-year-old hotties walking around the streets of Seoul.

Since I haven't posted in a while, I'll add that the scene for Thai women seems to be contracting. There are fewer ads these days and fewer women advertised. I'll also add that on my last two or three bookings, the photos which promise to guarantee the looks of the woman were clearly not 100 percent accurate. It's been a bummer because the guaranteed photos used to be quite accurate if not completely accurate.

My guess is that it has gotten harder for Thai women to get into the country. Or, with Thailand seeing more tourism, it's possible that these women don't want to risk coming to Korea anymore.

Seeing some reviews on kissbangs, I'm curious about how foreigner friendly they are. I'd hazard a guess that they're maybe not so much, like everything else. I'm mostly curious to see if any obviously foreign foreigners have had success, and if they needed to make a reservation or just walked in.

[QUOTE=AJinSeoul;2855156]Seeing some reviews on kissbangs, I'm curious about how foreigner friendly they are. I'd hazard a guess that they're maybe not so much, like everything else. I'm mostly curious to see if any obviously foreign foreigners have had success, and if they needed to make a reservation or just walked in.[/QUOTE]You should be able to easily check the Kissbang block at Silim station.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2855433]You should be able to easily check the Kissbang block at Silim station.[/QUOTE]Are they appointment only or do they accept walk ins?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2854092]You're spot on.

Overall, I've had better luck getting into Hyugetel, but they are also where I've put the most effort into being accepted. I put all my eggs in the Hyugetel basket because I like the direct access to services as well as the youth and beauty of the Thai women working in Korea.

The gunma I've been to have only Korean women, but they have never offered me full service on the first visit. That being said, all the women I met told me to come back again on a second visit for the real deal. I've generally not returned. Even with the temptation of full service, the women don't seem to be very open to kissing, definitely insist on condoms, and tend to be older than I want. Gunma women are fine, but they don't look like all the 20 to 40-year-old hotties walking around the streets of Seoul.

Since I haven't posted in a while, I'll add that the scene for Thai women seems to be contracting. There are fewer ads these days and fewer women advertised. I'll also add that on my last two or three bookings, the photos which promise to guarantee the looks of the woman were clearly not 100 percent accurate. It's been a bummer because the guaranteed photos used to be quite accurate if not completely accurate.

My guess is that it has gotten harder for Thai women to get into the country. Or, with Thailand seeing more tourism, it's possible that these women don't want to risk coming to Korea anymore.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that "the gig is up" in terms of Korea and the worth of coming here. Thai women end up stuck inside, don't get to enjoy life in Korea as expected, and money is not so good anymore, given the exchange vs US dollars (a big one).

Winter is also coming. Thai women hate cold weather.

Honestly, I hardly visit anywhere, anymore. Quality sucks, MR is all trans at ridiculous prices, and younger Korean women are best had from dating sites (and I am too old for that nonsense).

These kissbangs sound interesting. If I were looking, I might try there. I would be much more interested in meeting an Eastern block / Russian type, these days.

Transiting in Seoul on my way to BKK. After settling down in my hotel, went to Dao anma by taking the subway at the Hak-dong station, followed the direction on their website and found the place after a 10 minutes walk. Took the elevator to the 7th floor, it was not very crowded at 9:30 PM but plenty of bros there. I speak no Korean and did not make a reservation, they asked where I was from and I told them Singapore and they let me in. A front desk lady took me to the lounge and showed me the options. Paid 260,000 Won for the only option available with 1 shot in 60 minutes. I chose the club option with a young, slim girl and was shown to shower and change into a robe. I was told to go upstairs right away. A tanned (which is rare in Asia), petite lady in her late 20's who was my main girl took me to the mirrored loud music hallway and gave me BBBJ right there with two other ladies came by to suck on my nips. Other bros were there getting the same treatment, some were even fucking right there. It's a musical chair BJ that a different girls comes and goes every once it a while. I got BBBJ from 4 different girls actually. My main girl came back and put a condom on me. She then sat on me on the high stool and we fucked some more doggie style on the floor. Then I was shown a room with no door, no curtains. Another bro was having sex with his girl there while I was getting my table shower. After the other couple was done, it was my turn. My girl gave me another BBBJ which turned into some DATY and 69. She put another condom on me and we fucked in a few positions with other couples going in and out of the room and I blew my load. After a cigarette and catching our breath, my girl took me for a tour of this place and watched other couples did the deed. It was mind-blowing watching other people getting BJ and fucks. It's exhibitionist. My girl took me back to the room which was already occupied by another couple, gave me a shower and that was the end of my first orgy. Will definitely return when I am in Seoul again.

[URL]https://www.daomas.net/home[/URL]

Hello all, I will be staying in Seoul all October and shoot me a message if anyone wants to meet up.

I am a Korean-American who speaks fluent Korean and visited few anma places in Gangnam last time.

Just a quick two questions, is it ATM gives best rate and anyone know recent opistar site??

Travelling to Seoul soon and was looking for some options. TEB / MR all seem to have women listed around mid / late 20's. I'm sure some of their ages are fabricated but regardless, is there any recommendations for places I can find women in 40's-50's or is that just not a thing there? I'm East Asian but can't speak Korean so those Opais / Hyugtels I read from other posters here probably aren't an option.

Any help is appreciated, feel free to DM.

[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2856790]Transiting in Seoul on my way to BKK. After settling down in my hotel, went to Dao anma by taking the subway at the Hak-dong station, followed the direction on their website and found the place after a 10 minutes walk. Took the elevator to the 7th floor, it was not very crowded at 9:30 PM but plenty of bros there. I speak no Korean and did not make a reservation, they asked where I was from and I told them Singapore and they let me in. A front desk lady took me to the lounge and showed me the options. Paid 260,000 Won for the only option available with 1 shot in 60 minutes. I chose the club option with a young, slim girl and was shown to shower and change into a robe. I was told to go upstairs right away. A tanned (which is rare in Asia), petite lady in her late 20's who was my main girl took me to the mirrored loud music hallway and gave me BBBJ right there with two other ladies came by to suck on my nips. Other bros were there getting the same treatment, some were even fucking right there. It's a musical chair BJ that a different girls comes and goes every once it a while. I got BBBJ from 4 different girls actually. My main girl came back and put a condom on me. She then sat on me on the high stool and we fucked some more doggie style on the floor. Then I was shown a room with no door, no curtains. Another bro was having sex with his girl there while I was getting my table shower. After the other couple was done, it was my turn. My girl gave me another BBBJ which turned into some DATY and 69. She put another condom on me and we fucked in a few positions with other couples going in and out of the room and I blew my load. After a cigarette and catching our breath, my girl took me for a tour of this place and watched other couples did the deed. It was mind-blowing watching other people getting BJ and fucks. It's exhibitionist. My girl took me back to the room which was already occupied by another couple, gave me a shower and that was the end of my first orgy. Will definitely return when I am in Seoul again.

[URL]https://www.daomas.net/home[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn that is less than $200! I may have to visit Korea. Lived there in 1981 -1982. Any big tits, Mr. Gladiator?

[QUOTE=DCups;2857363]Damn that is less than $200! I may have to visit Korea. Lived there in 1981 -1982. Any big tits, Mr. Gladiator?[/QUOTE]But he is Asian I assume. You might get another whole negative reaction if you're a white guy walking in there.

[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2856790]Transiting in Seoul on my way to BKK. After settling down in my hotel, went to Dao anma by taking the subway at the Hak-dong station, followed the direction on their website and found the place after a 10 minutes walk. Took the elevator to the 7th floor, it was not very crowded at 9:30 PM but plenty of bros there. I speak no Korean and did not make a reservation, they asked where I was from and I told them Singapore and they let me in. A front desk lady took me to the lounge and showed me the options. Paid 260,000 Won for the only option available with 1 shot in 60 minutes. I chose the club option with a young, slim girl and was shown to shower and change into a robe. I was told to go upstairs right away. A tanned (which is rare in Asia), petite lady in her late 20's who was my main girl took me to the mirrored loud music hallway and gave me BBBJ right there with two other ladies came by to suck on my nips. Other bros were there getting the same treatment, some were even fucking right there. It's a musical chair BJ that a different girls comes and goes every once it a while. I got BBBJ from 4 different girls actually. My main girl came back and put a condom on me. She then sat on me on the high stool and we fucked some more doggie style on the floor. Then I was shown a room with no door, no curtains. Another bro was having sex with his girl there while I was getting my table shower. After the other couple was done, it was my turn. My girl gave me another BBBJ which turned into some DATY and 69. She put another condom on me and we fucked in a few positions with other couples going in and out of the room and I blew my load.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Heaven, The USA will never have this.

First off I want to state the sad state of affairs of the rld's in Seoul disappearing. Is Miari the last one operating or are they even? Seems like the government has cracked down on them for good now? Sad to see the Suwon location go.

Anyways, after much scrolling through here I read that there's a kiss bang or 2 in Hongdae? I went in search of one today but came out empty handed. I followed the directions to the one by the L7 Hotel near exit 1. It is supposed to be on the 2nd floor of a brick building where there's a restaurant on the bottom right? It used to go by the name 'Kiss Time'? I didn't see any signage with that name. I did see the windows still covered so perhaps it's a new kiss bang operation now? It was a 3 worded name, I don't remember exactly what it was but it had the 'blue'. When I went to the 2nd floor door it seemed to be heavily secured. There were 2-3 security cam boxes like things on the door and a blue 'adt' light thing above on the ceiling. Went to the 3rd floor and there were some slippers out for what looked like a dancing / ballerina place? No idea, but that's just what I got from looking at the logo. Went back down to the 2nd floor but didn't have the guts to ring the bell so I left LOL can anyone confirm that this is an actual kiss bang? I've never been to one and with the rld's being shutdown, I thought I could try this experience instead.

I am a regular member on the us forums. I am visiting in 2 weeks. I am in the process of looking through the pages here. In the meantime does anyone have so info / advice to guide me? I am a white foreigner and speak a little Korean. Looking for any spots to have some nice dreams when I'm not clubbing. I appreciate anything you can offer. My inbox is open!

I was wondering if there was any massages in seoul that includes happy endings done by korean women? The massages I've been to in seoul and from this forum are usually done by thai women or non korean women, curious if any of them are done by koreans that are around 20-40 not the old grandmas.

In busan they seem to have a quite a few done by youngish koreans, why not seoul?

[QUOTE=DCups;2857363]Damn that is less than $200! I may have to visit Korea. Lived there in 1981 -1982. Any big tits, Mr. Gladiator?[/QUOTE]No big tits but all very decent. No girl was flat-chested.

[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2858564]No big tits but all very decent. No girl was flat-chested.[/QUOTE]Do I need cash mostly for these places?

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2852284]Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).[/QUOTE]I went to opgani website and I cannot find honey Cafe. Or there is not many options in opgani. I registered and I am trying to find it.

Can you help me here.

Met up with Eunee from Itaewon for a HJ, recently. She was moving from XO to Tiffany club, and said she would work some daytime. Haven't been by to check in the past 3 or 4 weeks, tho. FYI, the mamasan at her old job was bragging about Eunee getting plugged by 9 guys in one night! She is one of the few left on "the Hill", and is 40's and short / cute for her age, but not overweight. I would definitely wrap it, but if you are desperate, she'll probably FS for 100 k.

[QUOTE=SlimGuy619;2852284]Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).[/QUOTE]Where exactly is Honey Cafe?

BTW, been going to Yeongdeungpo-gu for 100 k but sometimes girls will quote me 150 k. Place is still up and running.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2861088]She is one of the few left on "the Hill", and is 40's and short / cute for her age, but not overweight. I would definitely wrap it, but if you are desperate, she'll probably FS for 100 k.[/QUOTE]There's a newish girl around that street at Apple bar. Name is Jane. 33 at most. Big chest and hips, nice legs, normal weight, fair skin, cute face. Around 170 in height. Only seen Friday night and the odd Sunday. Red wings confirmed not trans, in case anyone is wondering with all the trans bars around there.

[QUOTE=RedConcept;2861133]Where exactly is Honey Cafe?

BTW, been going to Yeongdeungpo-gu for 100 k but sometimes girls will quote me 150 k. Place is still up and running.[/QUOTE]Is that for like 20 min or longer? CFS?

[QUOTE=TimeToTravel88;2860893]I went to opgani website and I cannot find honey Cafe. Or there is not many options in opgani. I registered and I am trying to find it.[/QUOTE]Just look under the Seongnam region, it will stand out. Very bee / honey themed.

[QUOTE=RedConcept;2861133]Where exactly is Honey Cafe?[/QUOTE]Off Moran station.

[QUOTE=Abder5;2831415]I have completed a list which by no means is everything, but a starting number see attached pdf "New Microsoft Excel Worksheet".

Here is a link to some that I managed to map [URL]http://u.osmfr.org/m/932409/.[/URL] (Most I guess due to crackdowns don't give an address).

For the ones with the phone #'s as other members mentioned send them a message in Korean telling them you are a foreigner (no reply propably means they are not interested LOL).

References:

[URL]https://opgani14.com[/URL]

[URL]https://oping33.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://lonelynight.net/[/URL]

[URL]www.mybodyshop.co.kr[/URL] (Has both dirty and real massages).

[URL]https://141hongkong.com/[/URL] (Another form with good info use Google Translate).[/QUOTE]You have alternative pdf URL?

Opgani14 is down. Any idea if there's any alternative address for their website?

[QUOTE=Janeczek2000;2865154]Opgani14 is down. Any idea if there's any alternative address for their website?[/QUOTE]Opgani15 com is the website.

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2865225]Opgani15 com is the website.[/QUOTE][URL]Opgani15.com[/URL] doesn't seem to be working either!

Looks like it involved Koreans, based on the pimps busted. There are articles by many other news outlets, but this one has photos of the prices and services involved, which proves interesting. The "high-end," clients pay less than many places here.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/feds-bust-high-end-brothel-politicians-military-officers-allegedly-paid-sex[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2866910]Looks like it involved Koreans, based on the pimps busted. There are articles by many other news outlets, but this one has photos of the prices and services involved, which proves interesting. The "high-end," clients pay less than many places here.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/feds-bust-high-end-brothel-politicians-military-officers-allegedly-paid-sex[/URL][/QUOTE]When I lived in the states and mongered frequently I knew a few girls that went to that org to make money. If you follow the US monger scene, a lot of the girls cycle from location to location. Is it possible that some are trafficked? I suppose there might be some, but all the regular providers that I knew in the US would tell me they'd go to different cities to work. Not a single person told me it was against their will. To be clear, if someone was trafficked against their will then it should stopped.

Finally, this is just my personal opinion, but the overall quality of providers in the states has gone down in terms of looks and up in terms of age.

Hey, I will be in Korea staying at the Pentaz hotel and was wondering if anyone knows of any action around Konkuk university station? I can't seem to get any recent hits from the search function.

Hello.

I will staying at the pentaz hotel later this week and was wondering if anyone knows of any action in the Konkuk university station area?

The state of the scene in Korea is pretty abysmal these days. After having had many great experiences, written up in a number of reports, I think I'm officially done with it. My reasons are various, but the main one is due to the number of poor experiences I've had lately. There hasn't been anything outright awful, but I've gotten nothing but older women (late 30's early 40's) on my last few visits. I'm not opposed to an older woman, but I like them to be sexy and willing, which has not been the case for a matter of months now.

During one of my recent encounters, I did manage to meet a young pretty woman who matched the picture in her advert, but she didn't allow DATY or kissing, and without such services the experience was far too one-dimensional. In the absence of any passion on the part of the women, I have decided that I'd rather just give myself a tight gripped handy at home.

As far as I'm concerned, the golden age of attractive Thai women offering quality service in Korea is over. The last five years have been pretty good to me, and I wish I could say I was optimistic about the future of p4 p in Korea, but I don't think the scene will rebound in the near future. All signs point to a declining market. There are: fewer real photos on the popular sites; more ads being removed at a faster and faster pace; and more women seemingly content to stay in Thailand where they can earn nearly as much money as they earn in Korea without the hassle of illegal immigration.

In addition, there hasn't been much good news for the Korean gangs who run these operations. Alongside the increased crackdowns within Korea, Korean pimps have been getting busted all around the world. In just the last couple of months there have been huge busts in Thailand, Vietnam, and the USA. Whether they are bringing women into Korea as is the case with Thais and Viets or whether they are taking Korean women out of Korea as is the case in the USA, these Korean gangs are being carefully watched by the authorities.

Having experienced this recent decline in quality as well as the increased difficulty in finding open businesses, I've decided that I'm better off spending my money and time on other pursuits.

Take care, have a great one, and thanks for all the reports.

P.S.: That being said, I don't want to discourage those of you who are still in the market. Therefore, I'll leave on a positive note and remind you that it's not impossible for foreigners to get service in this city. Despite nearly every dependable Hyugetel in the city having closed, there is still one where I know I am welcome. In addition, I want to let you know that when I call newly opened operations, I still get a positive response rate of about 1 in 10. The last few times, however, I haven't followed up on offers due to time constraints.

I'm back in Seoul and armed with a Korean number this time. Should be able to make more inroads, and yet I am finding that opgani seems to have died down quite a bit. The number of listings is much much lower. Last year you could find listings in any Seoul neighborhood and yet now many are completely empty. I'm finding more listings on lonelynight surprisingly. Any reason why for the shift?

First review. Massage spot here. Clearly new to the game since I didn't realize that massages were actually just handies and that for.

More I need to go elsewhere. Girl was OK, definitely not as advertised but not bad either. Minimal touching allowed too surprisingly. Massages aren't the category going forward I guess.

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I only check this forum when I'm back in Korea, about 1 x / year, but this makes me sad. Your posts have always been valuable and genuinely helpful. I imagine this info must have moved to other forums, maybe telegram chats? If anyone knows of these, would be helpful to share.

What other hobbies could possibly fill this space if you don't mind me asking?

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2868574]The state of the scene in Korea is pretty abysmal these days. After having had many great experiences, written up in a number of reports, I think I'm officially done with it. My reasons are various, but the main one is due to the number of poor experiences I've had lately. There hasn't been anything outright awful, but I've gotten nothing but older women (late 30's early 40's) on my last few visits. I'm not opposed to an older woman, but I like them to be sexy and willing, which has not been the case for a matter of months now.

During one of my recent encounters, I did manage to meet a young pretty woman who matched the picture in her advert, but she didn't allow DATY or kissing, and without such services the experience was far too one-dimensional. In the absence of any passion on the part of the women, I have decided that I'd rather just give myself a tight gripped handy at home.

As far as I'm concerned, the golden age of attractive Thai women offering quality service in Korea is over. The last five years have been pretty good to me, and I wish I could say I was optimistic about the future of p4 p in Korea, but I don't think the scene will rebound in the near future. All signs point to a declining market. There are: fewer real photos on the popular sites; more ads being removed at a faster and faster pace; and more women seemingly content to stay in Thailand where they can earn nearly as much money as they earn in Korea without the hassle of illegal immigration.[/QUOTE]

I am back in town and bumping this back up. I hate to do this but preference is going to be for other gyopos or asians *only* because our success of getting into places will be much higher. Obviously much better if you speak korean and are familiar with culture / customs here.

[QUOTE=KMax212;2820572]My own apologies now for the delayed response. I missed your initial response somehow. Agreed that there's a whole world just for groups (as well as discounted rates sometimes I hear if the group is big enough) and I'the be excited to explore. I didn't even realize opgani had a messaging / reservation system. I just saw phone numbers mentioned everywhere so assumed that was it. Is it their own messaging system? Or just email or something you message separately?

The forum messaging system is odd. My google-male is my username here x 2 if you want to reach out to me there. (kmax212 kmax212).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MMFgBangLover;2861200]There's a newish girl around that street at Apple bar. Name is Jane. 33 at most. Big chest and hips, nice legs, normal weight, fair skin, cute face. Around 170 in height. Only seen Friday night and the odd Sunday. Red wings confirmed not trans, in case anyone is wondering with all the trans bars around there.[/QUOTE]I don't know if there's anyone at Apple Bar now, it was closed when I went last Thursday and has always been closed when I've visited. I went to Pandora and Nana was working. She's nice and fun with a pretty good body and big tits. Suzy and Candy were working at Tiffany's with two other girls- the other girls seemed to be pretty good looking and Suzy and Candy are still pretty good. I didn't go up the Hill, so not sure if Bean or who else working on it. Overall, it's foreigner friendly, which is hard to come by these days and the prices are around 100,000 if you don't let them upsell you.

[QUOTE=Garthie1;2869117]I don't know if there's anyone at Apple Bar now, it was closed when I went last Thursday and has always been closed when I've visited. I went to Pandora and Nana was working. She's nice and fun with a pretty good body and big tits. Suzy and Candy were working at Tiffany's with two other girls- the other girls seemed to be pretty good looking and Suzy and Candy are still pretty good. I didn't go up the Hill, so not sure if Bean or who else working on it. Overall, it's foreigner friendly, which is hard to come by these days and the prices are around 100,000 if you don't let them upsell you.[/QUOTE]Wondering if that Jane lady is Janie, who used to work Nymph bar over 15 years ago? She also worked in hair and nails. I have been meaning to drop into the area and see what's up, bit haven't gotten around to it. When are all of these other ladies around, working with Candy? Day or night? Any specific day of the week? Thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2870341]Wondering if that Jane lady is Janie, who used to work Nymph bar over 15 years ago? She also worked in hair and nails. I have been meaning to drop into the area and see what's up, bit haven't gotten around to it. When are all of these other ladies around, working with Candy? Day or night? Any specific day of the week? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is on a Friday or Saturday. Not sure about the Nymph being open, it wasn't when I went on Thursday. The girls at Tiffany, Pandora, Texas, and Bean up the hill are all there, but maybe not during the first part of the week.

The Hill's still stubbornly clinging to life, same as the Grand Ole Opry. It's still fun since it's foreigner friendly and the girls aren't bad looking.

Anyone have any information on Candy bar and CC Bar next to Apple? Or that massage parlor across the street from Apple? Is the Grand Ole Opry just a regular bar or is it for pickups? Same for the East&West Club. I'm guessing the rest of the places up the hill are either transgender, closed, or have women pushing a little later in years. Been a while since I was in that area of Itaewon.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2871461]Anyone have any information on Candy bar and CC Bar next to Apple? Or that massage parlor across the street from Apple? Is the Grand Ole Opry just a regular bar or is it for pickups? Same for the East&West Club. I'm guessing the rest of the places up the hill are either transgender, closed, or have women pushing a little later in years. Been a while since I was in that area of Itaewon.[/QUOTE]If the massage place is still there, I went like 8 years ago. It was winter, cold and draft, and the poor Thai lady working there was frozen like an ice cube. She put an electric heater on us. Didn't go back. They probably cycle through overweight Thai ajummas now, like many places.

Candy Bar may or may not be trans? Is CC bar even around anymore?

By the names Garth mentioned, I am guessing I know who 4 of the 5 ladies are: Eunnie, Suzy (Sue), the owner (don't remember her real name) and Candy. Not sure who the 5th lady is, so I am curious to see.

I have visited all of them, thru the years. Most have been around for 15 to 20 years, and used to work at VIP Bar before the roof fell in.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2870341]Wondering if that Jane lady is Janie, who used to work Nymph bar over 15 years ago? She also worked in hair and nails. I have been meaning to drop into the area and see what's up, bit haven't gotten around to it. When are all of these other ladies around, working with Candy? Day or night? Any specific day of the week? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Afaik Jane is early 30s, over 15 years ago might not maths. Only seen her at Apple on Fridays past 10 pm.

Otherwise, can only suggest the older pale lady at Texas bar. Not the big woman or the fringe haired tan one sometimes there. Seems the most put together and has a great bod and attitude.

Hello all. I see some of the hyugetel ads show upsell options such as BBFS for +2. I assume this mean additional 20 k is that correct? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=CurtisMack;2871747]Hello all. I see some of the hyugetel ads show upsell options such as BBFS for +2. I assume this mean additional 20 k is that correct? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]That would be correct, but expect the girl to be from Thailand or somewhere else and not a Korean girl.

I will be visiting Korea in 2024, and have begun doing my research and thought I would share some of my kissbang location findings in case this is helpful for others. I am an American-born Korean, and visit Korea often, but I typically just go to anmas as they are easy and being Korean (although my language skills are at best decent) I have not been turned away at one even ones I found by recognizing a sign while just walking around. This time I want to explore some other offerings, so I will be looking to visit some hyugetels, kissbangs and lip cafes. If I'm lucky, maybe even an officetel.

I have noticed that opgani site does not list any kissbangs in the Sillim and Hongdae areas, and based on my searches from this site those are the two best areas for them because of the availability of college girls looking to make a few extra bucks on the side. And searching this site shows several others looking for them as well. So I fired up naver maps and just started looking at street views for signs with the letter K and these are the ones I was able to find in case others are looking for them. I noticed that the timestamp on google maps street views were from several years ago while naver maps timestamps were more recent, as some of the kissbangs mentioned in this site were showing up on google maps but not in the more recent naver maps.

In Sillim.

[URL]https://naver.me/IgDFtUvn[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/xt5nbu11[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/5XT89StO[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/xDjqsNgl[/URL]

In Hongdae.

[URL]https://naver.me/FZWBJ5g8[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/FWfwJXUh[/URL]

I hope this helps some of you looking for kissbangs, and I hope these are still around when I get there LOL.

Also, on my last trip to Korea in 2022 I went to Jinju Spa and noticed that the name changed. I walked in anyways and the employee at the counter asked if I had been there before, and I said yes when it was Jinju spa. Then he told me that ownership changed and he asked me something in Korean, which I did not understand. All I could make out was "Are you looking for (something in Korean) service?" So I replied in my limited language skills that I apologize but I was born in America and did not understand, but I was looking for the same service I got when it was Jinju. To which he replied that they do not do that anymore. I don't know if he was lying because my language skills were bad or if they truly do not do that anymore. Anyways, I was looking to find something similar. All my experiences there have been great, an excellent legit massage by an older Korean lady followed by a BBBJCIM from a young pretty Korean girl. Is there another place in Seoul that has similar services? Or perhaps they still do that under new ownership, and if so what is that service called in Korean?

Any updates on YDP? Girl quality? Prices? So it only opens 8 pm onwards right? Take care of it guys we don't want it being demolished like 588 and Suwons RLD.

[QUOTE=CurtisMack;2872437]I will be visiting Korea in 2024, and have begun doing my research and thought I would share some of my kissbang location findings in case this is helpful for others. I am an American-born Korean, and visit Korea often, but I typically just go to anmas as they are easy and being Korean (although my language skills are at best decent) I have not been turned away at one even ones I found by recognizing a sign while just walking around. This time I want to explore some other offerings, so I will be looking to visit some hyugetels, kissbangs and lip cafes. If I'm lucky, maybe even an officetel.

I have noticed that opgani site does not list any kissbangs in the Sillim and Hongdae areas, and based on my searches from this site those are the two best areas for them because of the availability of college girls looking to make a few extra bucks on the side. And searching this site shows several others looking for them as well. So I fired up naver maps and just started looking at street views for signs with the letter K and these are the ones I was able to find in case others are looking for them. I noticed that the timestamp on google maps street views were from several years ago while naver maps timestamps were more recent, as some of the kissbangs mentioned in this site were showing up on google maps but not in the more recent naver maps.

In Sillim.

[URL]https://naver.me/IgDFtUvn[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/xt5nbu11[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/5XT89StO[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/xDjqsNgl[/URL]

In Hongdae.

[URL]https://naver.me/FZWBJ5g8[/URL]

[URL]https://naver.me/FWfwJXUh[/URL]

I hope this helps some of you looking for kissbangs, and I hope these are still around when I get there LOL.

Also, on my last trip to Korea in 2022 I went to Jinju Spa and noticed that the name changed. I walked in anyways and the employee at the counter asked if I had been there before, and I said yes when it was Jinju spa. Then he told me that ownership changed and he asked me something in Korean, which I did not understand. All I could make out was "Are you looking for (something in Korean) service?" So I replied in my limited language skills that I apologize but I was born in America and did not understand, but I was looking for the same service I got when it was Jinju. To which he replied that they do not do that anymore. I don't know if he was lying because my language skills were bad or if they truly do not do that anymore. Anyways, I was looking to find something similar. All my experiences there have been great, an excellent legit massage by an older Korean lady followed by a BBBJCIM from a young pretty Korean girl. Is there another place in Seoul that has similar services? Or perhaps they still do that under new ownership, and if so what is that service called in Korean?[/QUOTE]Hit me up when you're in town and I think we can knock out some of that To-do list you got there. .

[QUOTE=CurtisMack;2872437]Kissbang locations research for upcoming Korea trip[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your post. I find things very difficult to find in Korea. Hopefully your maps will help the directionally challenged like myself find the Kissbangs.

Wish this site gave me the option to save important posts.

Just an FYI.

I tried to visit Tiffany Anma today. Even though their website contains pricing for Caucasians, they refused entry and said that only foreigners that are Asian are allowed.

Dao Anma was about the same thing.

Eventually went to Castle Anma [URL]https://www.castleanma.net[/URL].

As a foreigner the bill extra over the listed price, you do not get access to the club, only a room with the girl you choose. Bottom line, was nothing special, you can get similar services for way cheaper.

Been busy and haven't visited in a while. They never fail me.

I inquire about mixing some courses to double dip.

Make a reservation with Dalgon. She's my favorite.

20 min BBBJCIM w /69&DATY. Her body is perfect, mirror complements her well, great curves to grip, and amazing slow finish drawing every drop. We hash out how long I want to rest and she steps out.

Shower, brush teeth, reset myself. I chill on my phone for about 20 m.

Dalgon returns to the room with Haru.

15 min BBBJCIM, 2:1 Emperor's Course.

They get to work pretty quickly. Dalgon is licking my chest and Haru is working a nice slow warm BBBJ. Their techniques are very different from each other but equally amazing. My hands roam both of their chests and Dalgon's ass. I couldn't hold out long enough to see if they would have ultimately swapped positions.

Overall enjoyed myself once more.

70 k+90 k = 160 k total damage.