[QUOTE=Dreams]From Mumbai you have also Jet and Thai every day.. Far better than AI!![/QUOTE]Yes, indeed. And from Paris there is Air France, from Sydney there is QANTAS, and from Heathrow there is BA. I however was in Delhi.
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[QUOTE=Dreams]From Mumbai you have also Jet and Thai every day.. Far better than AI!![/QUOTE]Yes, indeed. And from Paris there is Air France, from Sydney there is QANTAS, and from Heathrow there is BA. I however was in Delhi.
[QUOTE=JD Wordsmith]Great post and useful information, thanks. One additional tip: if you take the expressway as Bunky suggests, when you get to the first toll booth (25 baht) the meter should read approximately Bt141, give or take a couple of baht. If it's significantly higher than that (remember, at the *first* 25 bt booth, not the second 45bt one!) then the meter is rigged.[/QUOTE]
Or you can go upstairs to the departure gates. Go outside and get in a cab that has just arrived and either negotiate to go by the meter or 400 baht and the driver pays the tolls. This is what I do regularly.
No 50 baht surcharge.
Stayed in Beergarden today.
Met a girl called "Pat" but she insists she doesn't go with a customer on the first day and also not from Beergarden. She always takes the guy from the Disco's afterwards.
She is quite slim, with really small boobs but has a very nice body and a pretty face. She seems to be a Beergarden regular.
Anyone know this girl, tempted to meet her again tomorrow. Worth it? Worth it to stay with her longer?
[QUOTE=Shadow6491]Or you can go upstairs to the departure gates. Go outside and get in a cab that has just arrived and either negotiate to go by the meter or 400 baht and the driver pays the tolls. This is what I do regularly.
No 50 baht surcharge.[/QUOTE]
Oh gosh, a buck seventy surcharge to take a taxi from the airport. We should boycott Thailand over this.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Oh gosh, a buck seventy surcharge to take a taxi from the airport. We should boycott Thailand over this.[/QUOTE]
You are missing the point......many times the taxi queue is quite long and you can literally wait up to an hour + for a taxi......if you go upstairs and jump in a taxi that is dropping off passengers there is no waiting. I have done this many many times myself. Shadow6491 was trying to give some useful information which you had to flame. This forum is for sharing useful information and we should not flame when it is useful.
[QUOTE=Hookup09]Is it possible to set up a bank account in Thailand if you are a resident of USA?
If so how would you go about doing this?[/QUOTE]
Been covered many times before. Search in the General Thread.
Try Kasikorn Bank (Thai Farmers Bank). Its easy.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Yes, indeed. And from Paris there is Air France, from Sydney there is QANTAS, and from Heathrow there is BA. I however was in Delhi.[/QUOTE]
You got what you deserved.. a few clicks, using Opodo or other similar sites would have shown the long list of airlines ( other than AI) flying direct from Delhi to BKK: Cathay, Jet, Kingfisgher to name a few.. All better than AI.. Not much useful for now, I understand, but maybe next time...
But I am sure you have forgotten all this while you enjoy BKK.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Oh gosh, a buck seventy surcharge to take a taxi from the airport. We should boycott Thailand over this.[/QUOTE]To Member #2041
If only one person without alot of luggage Take the new Airport train fast only take 35 min to Phaya Thai and connect to Sky train much cheaper than taxi and no surcharge.
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[QUOTE=Dreams]You got what you deserved.. a few clicks, using Opodo or other similar sites would have shown the long list of airlines ( other than AI) flying direct from Delhi to BKK: Cathay, Jet, Kingfisgher to name a few.. All better than AI.. Not much useful for now, I understand, but maybe next time...
But I am sure you have forgotten all this while you enjoy BKK.[/QUOTE]Don't patronize. You have no idea of my travel plans, needs or constraints. For what it is worth I use Kayak extensively to identify the most appropriate flights. My business trip which brought me to Delhi was only confirmed a few days earlier. I then looked on Kayak for the earliest affordable non-stop flight, and the AI flight at £221 return leaving 2h40min later, arriving BKK at 7.30pm was fine. The flight was delayed, otherwise perfectly acceptable.
Anytime you want a job as my personal travel agent don't hesitate to offer.
If its the Pat I know she has not been working in the Beer Garden for perhaps 18 months. She went up the food chain and exclusivly was picking up guys in discos, like Climax, where some men fanatasise they are not picking up Beer Garden girls. When in fact its correct, its all "ex-BG" girls who now realise how to get more money per man (dress better, go to disco, get more money).
Small, small boobs, pretty, speaks some English. All I can say is if it is the same Pat she is really lovely until you get her into bed and then its just disappointing. She has had far too much cock inside her and has become pretty much "immune" to sexual feeling.
Its not bad, and she loves DATY, but if you compare the performance from Mango girl or a horny non-pro, you would be dissapointed, however, give it a go, nothing to lose and it may not be the same one.
[QUOTE=Bkk247]Stayed in Beergarden today.
Met a girl called "Pat" but she insists she doesn't go with a customer on the first day and also not from Beergarden. She always takes the guy from the Disco's afterwards.
She is quite slim, with really small boobs but has a very nice body and a pretty face. She seems to be a Beergarden regular.
Anyone know this girl, tempted to meet her again tomorrow. Worth it? Worth it to stay with her longer?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bunky]It has been awhile since this topic was updated, so I thought I'd post a trip report. Hopefully it will be of some use to future visitors arriving at BKK for the first time.
Bunky[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the informative report.
[QUOTE=The Pro]If its the Pat I know she has not been working in the Beer Garden for perhaps 18 months. She went up the food chain and exclusivly was picking up guys in discos, like Climax, where some men fanatasise they are not picking up Beer Garden girls. When in fact its correct, its all "ex-BG" girls who now realise how to get more money per man (dress better, go to disco, get more money).
Small, small boobs, pretty, speaks some English. All I can say is if it is the same Pat she is really lovely until you get her into bed and then its just disappointing. She has had far too much cock inside her and has become pretty much "immune" to sexual feeling.
Its not bad, and she loves DATY, but if you compare the performance from Mango girl or a horny non-pro, you would be dissapointed, however, give it a go, nothing to lose and it may not be the same one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, as two days passed I tried already. She didn't like DATY. But yes maybe she changed or whatever. Performance was not that great. Seems to have some Boyfriends spread over the world as she was quite busy with her two phones.
[QUOTE=The Pro]If its the Pat I know she has not been working in the Beer Garden for perhaps 18 months. She went up the food chain and exclusivly was picking up guys in discos, like Climax, where some men fanatasise they are not picking up Beer Garden girls. When in fact its correct, its all "ex-BG" girls who now realise how to get more money per man (dress better, go to disco, get more money).[/QUOTE]Sorry forget smth. As I think we mean the same girl for sure, did you try GFE with her too? I mean you stayed with her longer or was the sex so dissapointing for you that you checked her out after 1 night?
May I contact you somehow or do I have to pay the 20 $ for sending an private Message? I think you live in BKK right?
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Worried that I might be mistaken for a back-packer, I had a haircut today in Soi 5.
The youngish lady who cut my hair (and gave me a manicure) had a nice smile and a nice body.
It turned out she lives next to my hotel down darkest Soi 4. It would have been rude not to ask her out for dinner.
I'm meeting her tomorrow evening. Do you think she will bonk on the first night?
Thailand, eh? :)[/QUOTE]Well did she?
[QUOTE=Bkk247]Thanks for the info, as two days passed I tried already. She didn't like DATY. But yes maybe she changed or whatever. Performance was not that great. Seems to have some Boyfriends spread over the world as she was quite busy with her two phones.[/QUOTE]I wonder if she is the girl that use to be my girlfriend, but her name was Pa. How old is she? Where in Thailand is she from?
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Worried that I might be mistaken for a back-packer, I had a haircut today in Soi 5.
The youngish lady who cut my hair (and gave me a manicure) had a nice smile and a nice body.
It turned out she lives next to my hotel down darkest Soi 4. It would have been rude not to ask her out for dinner.
I'm meeting her tomorrow evening. Do you think she will bonk on the first night?
Thailand, eh? :)[/QUOTE]
How did the date go?
[QUOTE=Dreams]You got what you deserved.. a few clicks, using Opodo or other similar sites would have shown the long list of airlines ( other than AI) flying direct from Delhi to BKK: Cathay, Jet, Kingfisgher to name a few.. All better than AI.. Not much useful for now, I understand, but maybe next time...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dreams]From Mumbai you have also Jet and Thai every day.. Far better than AI!![/QUOTE]
Jeez, the guy flew Air India - from some of the responses on this thread, you would think this is somehow a crime against all Mongerdom. Does it REALLY matter what airline he flew? He described a confusion that occurred in the airport, and missing the point entirely, some people pounced on him for having the gall to fly an airline that they don't approve of. The man's travel plans are his own business - I'd rather hear where he sticks his little rodent than how he got to BKK.
So it seems the sun shone a little brighter this month, and given the fact that business and work has been all but lousy, it seems i have frequent flier miles due to expire next month.
What a waste if i let it expire. So i hastily converted it to a free ticket to BKK and back!
So im off to BKK to join you boys in heaven for a few days on Dec 10th - Dec 12th!
Wonder if there is anything new in BKK. Been awhile since i was there and honestly, this trip couldnt have come any sooner.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Don't patronize. You have no idea of my travel plans, needs or constraints. For what it is worth I use Kayak extensively to identify the most appropriate flights. My business trip which brought me to Delhi was only confirmed a few days earlier. I then looked on Kayak for the earliest affordable non-stop flight, and the AI flight at £221 return leaving 2h40min later, arriving BKK at 7.30pm was fine. The flight was delayed, otherwise perfectly acceptable.
Anytime you want a job as my personal travel agent don't hesitate to offer.[/QUOTE]
.. my friend. And my apologies if you felt I was patronsiing you, that was not the intention.
I just corrected for the benefit of other the wrong info that there was only AI flying direct from India,to BKK. I actually forgot to add THAi to my list.
I have been travelling in and out of India for the last 40 years, and can only state that AI has considerably deteriorated since a decade or 2, basically since it was nationalised. Rats (not mouse, though, pun intended) running along the aisles, air hostessses fleeing the cockpit screaming of harassment by the pilots, let alone delays etc... With the liberalisation of Indian airspace some 10 years ago, I advise anyone to chose any airline but AI. It's only my opinion...
I am indeed very good at organising travel. and my services are available to you any time, for a few beers wherever we may end up meeting!
Peace!
Guys
I have been last year in Mai in Bangkok and Pattaya. Considered the quality of the girls better in Bangkok, although also a bit more expensive. I realised that the girls are willing (or even prefer) to give BBBJ. Since I don't think that a BJ is worth the money with a condom I have so far prefered this practice. But did you guys have any problems with STD so far? Is it possible to get over-the-counter medication against them directly in Thailand?
I have a preferece for freelance ladies. Last time I realised that it is fairly difficult to estimate the age of the girls. I've met a non-pro and thought she was maybe even too young, asked her and found out that she was actually 26! It's really difficult to guess! Do you guys ask for Id's or do you leave that to the hotel? Since I've realised that good hotels ask for the id's of the girls and keep them. So I guess they also check the age. Can I rely on that or must I check myself?
I am heading back to Bangkok this December and am planning to pick up some freelancers. Last time I realised that in front of the Nana hotel there are a lot of beautiful ones also in night clubs such as the Bossy Disco and Spicey Disco, any other suggestions?
[QUOTE=Booey]How did the date go?[/QUOTE]well, it's a long story, but since you asked...
We agreed to meet outside my hotel at 8.30pm, and she turned up the expected 15 minutes late. I had eschewed my customary stained wife-beater vest, baggy shorts and flip-flops for something a little more sophisticated, but even in my silk pyjamas I wasn't a patch on her. She was wearing a rather elegant outfit, which included a rather short skirt worn with tights. Tights? that's the first time I have ever seen those in BKK, and to be honest not a welcome sight. I had forgotten that she wore glasses and she had a certain Palinesque quality, which did stir a few unexpected feelings... She flashed her rather seductive broad smile, and instantly I was enraptured again.
So we took a taxi to a nice little restaurant on soi 11, where we chatted over a pleasant meal. When she ordered a glass of red wine to drink the penny slowly started to drop, and I realised that she was no ordinary salon girl, but actually the owner of the shop and ,as it transpired, a rather astute business woman. So we talked a while about the problems of running businesses in Bangkok (as if I know anything about that), with a lot of gentle touching and caressing, then later headed off for a night-cap hand-in-hand before signing the deal :) . Or so was my intention. Sadly her intention was somewhat different :( , and I began to get the vibe when she talked about having to be back soon to relieve the baby-sitter. So I made my pitch with as much gentlemanly style as I could muster, but she explained that she would rather be friends at this point, although perhaps next time I was in town she might be able to share my bed. I made a couple more playful attempts, but realised I was going nowhere on this evening.
Graciously accepting defeat (play the long game!) I called a cab, and we both went back to Soi 4, stopping briefly to drop me off at my hotel (where she did give me a long deep kiss). So what's that, first base? 3/10? E for effort? I have to say though, a very pleasant evening, and while I would gladly have bedded her, I was pretty relaxed about the whole thing, and look forward to seeing her next visit. It was rather fun to go on a date; but knowing for certain that one way or another I would go to sleep satiated that night took a lot of the stress out of it.
Anyway, the night was still young, and although I had a flight to catch the next day, I was of course in no mood for my usual solitary mug of cocoa. I did think briefly about saying to her that I would go for a stroll around the Sukh to clear my head, but having said that I needed an early night she would know exactly what I was up to..! So I waited for the taxi to turn the corner past my hotel and then briskly strolled down the soi in search of my prey. Who I found within 100 yards... A sweet young thing, who it turned out had been standing there most of the evening. I actually took pity on her from her slightly hard-luck story, but more importantly her neediness made the interview somewhat more straightforward. There was certainly no need to negotiate over the requested fee, and she had a certain docility about her that was rather appealing at that point. So we strolled back to my hotel, where the dreadful deed was done, and to be honest was very much enjoyed by myself. If I was being critical I would say that she was a little on the plump side, but only in Thailand could I possibly get away with saying that. Any other country thy would say she hadn't an ounce of fat on her...
So that was that. The slightly bizarre sequel follows... Regular readers may know I have a long-time friend / gik / gf / whatever ('The Shrimp'). I tell her pretty much everything, and in return she tells me pretty much everything about her exploits (and by the way, if you are that Frenchman, and you know who you are, boy, are you weird. Anyway, I digress). So the next day I phone the Shrimp to tell her about my nocturnal activities, and talk about the salon lady.
'What her name?'
I tell her.
'I know her'.
Yeah, right, sure you do.
'No, she not salon girl, she big boss. She has crazy son. I go her salon many times. We talk together often. sometimes she get crazy drunk.'
Great. A few more points confirms that they know each other well. I've picked two girls out of the vast sea of Thai females who just happen to know each other :( . I suppose it's not so unlikely, but there you go. Not that it really limits anything, as the Shrimp is pretty relaxed, but it wouldn't feel right. Or would it? I might just have to find out next trip... :)
[QUOTE=Dreams].. my friend. And my apologies if you felt I was patronsiing you, that was not the intention.
I am indeed very good at organising travel. and my services are available to you any time, for a few beers wherever we may end up meeting!
Peace![/QUOTE]No offence taken. I was just in a grumpy mood having, er, just flown back to Delhi on Air India... :)
The early morning flight was 10 minutes late (how is that possible?). I didn't dare check the toilets. The breakfast I accepted and then did not eat having inspected it. The staff were morose rather than surly. They didn't serve any drinks until the plane was literally coming in to land.
On the positive side, I had the exit row seat with an empty seat next to me. I had my iPad, a few magazines, plenty of leg-room and a perfectly comfy seat.
But, the point is, I would rather endure 4 hours of marginal discomfort and get to BKK early, rather than wait for a better airline a day later. That's it.
One final point: I tend to be a last minute traveller, so checked in one hour 'early'. On leaving the check-in with less than an hour to go, I joined the queue to join the queues for Immigration at Point 3 ie at the far end of the hall. This queue snaked back and forward a couple of times, and I would have spent my entire time in that queue... On the wall are three CCTV screens showing the queue at Point 2. No queue. Go figure. So I wandered back to the middle of the hall and was through Immigration within 15 minutes.
Worth remembering.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]The man's travel plans are his own business - I'd rather hear where he sticks his little rodent than how he got to BKK.[/QUOTE]Kumbu, you are a wise and honourable man.
In thanks I have given you the story of 'The Hair Salon Lady'. Shortly I shall provide the story of 'Mango Girls - the Good and the Well, How Can I Put It Tactfully, Perhaps Not Quite So Good But She Did Try Hard'.
Guys
I have been last year in Mai in Bangkok and Pattaya. Considered the quality of the girls better in Bangkok, although also a bit more expensive. I realised that the girls are willing (or even prefer) to give BBBJ. Since I don't think that a BJ is worth the money with a condom I have so far prefered this practice. But did you guys have any problems with STD so far? Is it possible to get over-the-counter medication against them directly in Thailand?
I have a preferece for freelance ladies. Last time I realised that it is fairly difficult to estimate the age of the girls. I've met a non-pro and thought she was maybe even too young, asked her and found out that she was actually 26! It's really difficult to guess! Do you guys ask for Id's or do you leave that to the hotel? Since I've realised that good hotels ask for the id's of the girls and keep them. So I guess they also check the age. Can I rely on that or must I check myself?
I am heading back to Bangkok this December and am planning to pick up some freelancers. Last time I realised that in front of the Nana hotel there are a lot of beautiful ones also in night clubs such as the Bossy Disco and Spicey Disco, any other suggestions?
[QUOTE=Tommyh80]I wonder if she is the girl that use to be my girlfriend, but her name was Pa. How old is she? Where in Thailand is she from?[/QUOTE]Hm. No here name is Pat. Sent you a PM.
[quote=jack78]guys
i have been last year in mai in bangkok and pattaya. considered the quality of the girls better in bangkok, although also a bit more expensive. i realised that the girls are willing (or even prefer) to give bbbj. since i don't think that a bj is worth the money with a condom i have so far prefered this practice. but did you guys have any problems with std so far? is it possible to get over-the-counter medication against them directly in thailand?
i have a preferece for freelance ladies. last time i realised that it is fairly difficult to estimate the age of the girls. i've met a non-pro and thought she was maybe even too young, asked her and found out that she was actually 26! it's really difficult to guess! do you guys ask for id's or do you leave that to the hotel? since i've realised that good hotels ask for the id's of the girls and keep them. so i guess they also check the age. can i rely on that or must i check myself?
i am heading back to bangkok this december and am planning to pick up some freelancers. last time i realised that in front of the nana hotel there are a lot of beautiful ones also in night clubs such as the bossy disco and spicey disco, any other suggestions?[/quote]are you going to keep re-posting this until you get an answer? not a wise strategy... :)
risk of std fom bbbj is fairly low. you can buy apprpriate medications otc in bkk.
hotels will not let **** girls in (although there might be exceptions) so in my experience an **** girl will either have 'lost' her id card or will request a st hotel. the former is a real warning sign.
the whole nana area is swarming with beautiful (and not so beautiful) young (and not so young) girls (and not so much girls). the latter is a warning to you to watch out for ladyboys, of which there are many.
Anyone been to the new Club Insomnia around Soi 12 behind the V8 Diner?
@Jack78: you may want to check the "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread. While BBBJ is low on the risk side, a number of guys says they have gotten diseases through BBBJ. Mostly curable stuff though eg gonorrhea etc (no AIDS).
[QUOTE=Mouse1]well, it's a long story, but since you asked.
We agreed to meet outside my hotel at 8. 30pm, and she turned up the expected 15 minutes late. I had eschewed my customary stained wife-beater vest, baggy shorts and flip-flops for something a little more sophisticated, but even in my silk pyjamas I wasn't a patch on her. She was wearing a rather elegant outfit, which included a rather short skirt worn with tights. Tights? That's the first time I have ever seen those in BKK, and to be honest not a welcome sight. I had forgotten that she wore glasses and she had a certain Palinesque quality, which did stir a few unexpected feelings. She flashed her rather seductive broad smile, and instantly I was enraptured again.
So we took a taxi to a nice little restaurant on soi 11, where we chatted over a pleasant meal. When she ordered a glass of red wine to drink the penny slowly started to drop, and I realised that she was no ordinary salon girl, but actually the owner of the shop and, as it transpired, a rather astute business woman. So we talked a while about the problems of running businesses in Bangkok (as if I know anything about that), with a lot of gentle touching and caressing, then later headed off for a night-cap hand-in-hand before signing the deal. Or so was my intention. Sadly her intention was somewhat different, and I began to get the vibe when she talked about having to be back soon to relieve the baby-sitter. So I made my pitch with as much gentlemanly style as I could muster, but she explained that she would rather be friends at this point, although perhaps next time I was in town she might be able to share my bed. I made a couple more playful attempts, but realised I was going nowhere on this evening.
Graciously accepting defeat (play the long game!) I called a cab, and we both went back to Soi 4, stopping briefly to drop me off at my hotel (where she did give me a long deep kiss). So what's that, first base? 3/10? E for effort? I have to say though, a very pleasant evening, and while I would gladly have bedded her, I was pretty relaxed about the whole thing, and look forward to seeing her next visit. It was rather fun to go on a date; but knowing for certain that one way or another I would go to sleep satiated that night took a lot of the stress out of it.
Anyway, the night was still young, and although I had a flight to catch the next day, I was of course in no mood for my usual solitary mug of cocoa. I did think briefly about saying to her that I would go for a stroll around the Sukh to clear my head, but having said that I needed an early night she would know exactly what I was up to.! So I waited for the taxi to turn the corner past my hotel and then briskly strolled down the soi in search of my prey. Who I found within 100 yards. A sweet young thing, who it turned out had been standing there most of the evening. I actually took pity on her from her slightly hard-luck story, but more importantly her neediness made the interview somewhat more straightforward. There was certainly no need to negotiate over the requested fee, and she had a certain docility about her that was rather appealing at that point. So we strolled back to my hotel, where the dreadful deed was done, and to be honest was very much enjoyed by myself. If I was being critical I would say that she was a little on the plump side, but only in Thailand could I possibly get away with saying that. Any other country thy would say she hadn't an ounce of fat on her.
So that was that. The slightly bizarre sequel follows. Regular readers may know I have a long-time friend / gik / gf / whatever ('The Shrimp'). I tell her pretty much everything, and in return she tells me pretty much everything about her exploits (and by the way, if you are that Frenchman, and you know who you are, boy, are you weird. Anyway, I digress). So the next day I phone the Shrimp to tell her about my nocturnal activities, and talk about the salon lady.
'What her name? '
I tell her.
'I know her'.
Yeah, right, sure you do.
'No, she not salon girl, she big boss. She has crazy son. I go her salon many times. We talk together often. Sometimes she get crazy drunk. '
Great. A few more points confirms that they know each other well. I've picked two girls out of the vast sea of Thai females who just happen to know each other. I suppose it's not so unlikely, but there you go. Not that it really limits anything, as the Shrimp is pretty relaxed, but it wouldn't feel right. Or would it? I might just have to find out next trip.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! That's a great story. Sounds like a fun girl, when you get her going! Be sure to give her a ring next time!
A new open front beer bar opened in the last few days on Soi 4 between Golden bear and the entrance to Nana Disco,
Painted in Black and no sign up yet , but seems to already be pretty busy,
Anyone know the name ?
BK
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming]A new open front beer bar opened in the last few days on Soi 4 between Golden bear and the entrance to Nana Disco,
Painted in Black and no sign up yet , but seems to already be pretty busy,
Anyone know the name ?
BK[/QUOTE]I watched it being completed over the past few days. Good location, so it should last.
I'm intrigued by the huge beer bar in the middle of the big carpark up from Nana hotel (you go past it to get to Annie's, if that makes sense). Since it was finished 9 months ago I have yet to see more than a few people in it. Must be making a horrible loss.
On a similar vein, there is a new Indian restaurant several hundred metres up Soi 4 which must have opened very recently. Walked past it a least twice a day, but never saw a single cstomer there, but the same rather desperate looking waiter outside. How or why the owner thinks it can survive so far from passing trade beats me.
After my venture into the Nana gogos earlier in the night I took a wander down to the Beer Garden to check out the freelance action. The bar was unsurprisingly packed, so I chose the best looking girl that was not already deep in conversation (/negotiations) and sat down, introduced myself, and struck up a conversation.
The girl introduced herself as Apple (a fairly common name it seems), she is petite, and has a reasonably attractive face (above average with make up on) - and for my first mongering experience in Thailand that is good enough for me.
I ask Apple if she wants a drink, she says she has just ordered a tea, but she may have a drink when her friend (female) arrives in a little bit. This does not bode well for my plans, as it indicated that she may not have been working - instead just socialising. I decide to keep chatting; as I am enjoying the conversation (her English is perfect). Her friend arrives, we have a beer or two there, then move across the road to the mobile bar that gets set up there. Lots of drinking ensues, with both the girls getting about a third of the rounds of drinks each (I probably shouted a few extra - but was by no means buying them both (or either one) drinks all night). From this point onwards (until the early morning activities) my memory is a little hazy (I like a drink or two, but my brain doesn’t quite as much). I will try to fill in the blanks as best as possible, but some of the events may only be 95% factual, 5% best guess).
The partying moved to Nana Liquid, where the drinking situation changed a little - Apple ordered a round of beers for us three and for a couple (or was it a few) other friends of theirs we met at the club, then told the barperson that I was paying. This pissed me off a bit in my now re-inebriated state, and my emotions must have been very obvious. She asked me what was wrong, I said that I am not an ATM machine, she apologized, kissed me. At some point after this we got back to the Nanatai hotel, where I sobered up a little (mainly the whole receptionist asking for ID thing, it was new to me and a little embarrassing - but only a little embarrassing).
When back in the hotel room, we started making out whilst undressing, moved to the bed and she went down. After this she turned around, so it was 69 with her on top. After a sufficient amount of funtime (BJs generally do not get me off, unless I am super horny - when I'm drunk, there is virtually 0% chance a BJ will finish the act, unless there is serious gagging going on). I grabbed a condom, moved her around and started cowboy, moved to mish... standing... moved to in front of the mirror... I started to realize that I may be too drunk to blow, so tell her that we should sleep, and I'll wake her in a few hours with a naughty surprise. She agrees, especially as she has come a few times (though they seemed fairly fake).
2 or 3 hours later, I wake up, realise I'm sober enough to feel the extremities again, so wake her with the promised surprise - kissing her neck until she is semi awake, whilst gently rubbing her hairless wonder, and enter her from behind, before she is fully awake. She seems very happy with this 'surprise sex' and after about 20 - 25 mins of mutual moaning and groaning I manage to release the built up tension, and start my first proper sex tourism journey. We go back to sleep, me still spooning her).
At about 10 the next morning I wake up, still cuddling Apple. She looks very cute asleep (although not as attractive as when she had makeup done properly), so I kiss her awake, and we go again. This time I position myself so that I have a good, clear view of me entering her, and this sight and seeing her tight tight stomach, playing with her very responsive nipples (and her returning the favour), I am ready to come after 5 or so minutes, but use restraint (i.e. slow down) and wait until she has her (again fake sounding) orgasm 5 or so minutes later.
We both go back to sleep. I wake up around 1 in the arvo, consider going again, but decide not to wake her. After I get up, get ready, read a little of my book, I decide that it really is time to kick her out of my bed. I started to wonder whether this was a freebie (apart from the $50 - $70 spent on drinks), or if she wasn't a FL as no mention had been made of money the previous night or in the morning. I wake her, tell her to have a shower and we can go and get lunch.
After her shower, she comes out, kisses me, sits on the bed and coyly says "I'm sorry, but I need to ask you for some money." OK, so definitely not a freebie then, I ask her how much, she says "any amount you want," I get out THB2000 and hand it to her, she puts it in her bag without counting it, and looks a little embarrassed about asking for money. When we get down to the entrance of the Nanatai, she kisses me, and says “I’ll see you next time in the Beer Garden.” I realise I have got out of shouting lunch (not that I minded too much), say goodbye and head back to my room to start another day that ends with me ending up in a very drunken state and funny/ crazy situation, but does not involve P4P, so is not a story for ISG.
An excellent report, Franco, well done sir. I like your semi-inebriated commentary - your description of how you were treated as an ATM seem spot on. [QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]After her shower, she comes out, kisses me, sits on the bed and coyly says "I'm sorry, but I need to ask you for some money." OK, so definitely not a freebie then, I ask her how much, she says "any amount you want," I get out THB2000 and hand it to her, she puts it in her bag without counting it, and looks a little embarrassed about asking for money. [/QUOTE]This is a fairly common M.O. - girls put on the act of not being in it for the money, and when it comes right down to it, they coyly ask for some cash. No harm done - I think this is the best way to do things. As I read your report, I was afraid you would have cheaped out and tried to get away without paying the girl. While this is tempting, it really is not the wisest course of action, IMHO. Others may disagree, but that's me (and you too, it seems).
Looking forward to your next report.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]An excellent report, Franco, well done sir. I like your semi-inebriated commentary - your description of how you were treated as an ATM seem spot on. This is a fairly common M.O. - girls put on the act of not being in it for the money, and when it comes right down to it, they coyly ask for some cash. No harm done - I think this is the best way to do things. As I read your report, I was afraid you would have cheaped out and tried to get away without paying the girl. While this is tempting, it really is not the wisest course of action, IMHO. Others may disagree, but that's me (and you too, it seems).
Looking forward to your next report.[/QUOTE]
I perfectly agree with your thoughts.
Especially as the girl left the amount option open, she was given a fair sum and she accepted it with no mind games or starting to be a pain.
Was it more than what she expected? less? Doesn't matter.
As usual we pay them to go and this worked out exactly that way
Seems Franco got his share of pleasure :)
So... "you happy me happy" could be the title of the story!:)
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]......... say goodbye and head back to my room to start another day that ends with me ending up in a very drunken state and funny/ crazy situation, but does not involve P4P, so is not a story for ISG.[/QUOTE]
sure if its Funny and around Bangkok write it up
, we would like to hear about it......
BK
Thanks for your encouragement fellow ISGers, I was definitely happy not to have to negotiate for my first Thai tryst.
Ok, so my P4P story continues on Monday - Sunday was taken out by a trip to the gym and swim in the pool... that turned into drinking too many beers and a few bottles of gin next to the pool at the Nanatai with 2 expats and another seasoned Thai traveller... that ended with me disappearing from the table and passing out in the pool's bathrooms for the night and cracking my head.... What? I'm on holiday, I'm allowed to do excess excessively OK!!
Anyway – back to Monday: After deciding I was never going to drink again, I made my way back down to the pool to try and turn my pasty white flesh a slightly darker hue, ordered myself some food, and decided to have a relaxed, quiet, no funny business kind of day.
That plan was (THANKFULLY) shattered upon the arrival of fellow ISGer Ozztraleearr (the person who recommended the Nanatai – which again, I can’t recommend enough, great rooms and facilities for budget price). It is from my experience heading out with Ozz that day that I think someone should pitch the idea of the Thai government buddying up more experienced, and newbie mongerers, in order to stimulate the Thai economy.
First point of call: Golden (Ozz – feel free to correct any places I mix up/ get wrong), where we hung out with some of Ozz’s ladyfriends – he is very popular in this bar, and spent a while drinking, talking and joking with the girls. We were drinking mainly soft drinks - the wisdom I gleaned straight away from Ozz is that the drinks you are having with a lady do not necessarily have to be alcoholic – bar tabs are cheaper this way, and you are less likely to do something stupid (like pass out in the toilets of a pool).
After this we went for a wander down to the new bar that opened on Soi 4, on the same side as Nana hotel, a little bit further towards the Tobacco Monopoly from Golden (although I cant remember exactly how far). The bar was having an official opening the next night, there was cardboard on the pool tables and the toilets were only half finished... However, the main bar girl had an amazingly sweet and innocent face (which I like), and seemed to have a gentle personality, so we stuck around for a drink or two. The drinks here were significantly more than at the Golden, and I was feeling fragile still from the excess of the night before, so after asking the girl if she would be around at 9ish, I headed back to my room at the Nanatai to slip in a nap before heading out for the night.
Sleep was escaping me, so I decided I needed some relaxation first, and after being told by Ozz that the room service massage girls don’t only massage, I ordered myself up a whole lot of relaxation in the form of June... and that will be my next report, I will try to fit it in between my (hopefully more successful than last night) mongering in Danang, Vietnam tonight and my journey back towards LOS over the next couple of days.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]Thanks for your encouragement fellow ISGers, I was definitely happy not to have to negotiate for my first Thai tryst.
Ok, so my P4P story continues on Monday. Sunday was taken out by a trip to the gym and swim in the pool. That turned into drinking too many beers and a few bottles of gin next to the pool at the Nanatai with 2 expats and another seasoned Thai traveller. That ended with me disappearing from the table and passing out in the pool's bathrooms for the night and cracking my head. What? I'm on holiday, I'm allowed to do excess excessively OK!
Anyway – back to Monday: After deciding I was never going to drink again, I made my way back down to the pool to try and turn my pasty white flesh a slightly darker hue, ordered myself some food, and decided to have a relaxed, quiet, no funny business kind of day.
That plan was (THANKFULLY) shattered upon the arrival of fellow ISGer Ozztraleearr (the person who recommended the Nanatai – which again, I can't recommend enough, great rooms and facilities for budget price). It is from my experience heading out with Ozz that day that I think someone should pitch the idea of the Thai government buddying up more experienced, and newbie mongerers, in order to stimulate the Thai economy.
First point of call: Golden (Ozz – feel free to correct any places I mix up/ get wrong), where we hung out with some of Ozz's ladyfriends – he is very popular in this bar, and spent a while drinking, talking and joking with the girls. We were drinking mainly soft drinks. The wisdom I gleaned straight away from Ozz is that the drinks you are having with a lady do not necessarily have to be alcoholic – bar tabs are cheaper this way, and you are less likely to do something stupid (like pass out in the toilets of a pool).
After this we went for a wander down to the new bar that opened on Soi 4, on the same side as Nana hotel, a little bit further towards the Tobacco Monopoly from Golden (although I can't remember exactly how far). The bar was having an official opening the next night, there was cardboard on the pool tables and the toilets were only half finished. However, the main bar girl had an amazingly sweet and innocent face (which I like), and seemed to have a gentle personality, so we stuck around for a drink or two. The drinks here were significantly more than at the Golden, and I was feeling fragile still from the excess of the night before, so after asking the girl if she would be around at 9ish, I headed back to my room at the Nanatai to slip in a nap before heading out for the night.
Sleep was escaping me, so I decided I needed some relaxation first, and after being told by Ozz that the room service massage girls don't only massage, I ordered myself up a whole lot of relaxation in the form of June. And that will be my next report, I will try to fit it in between my (hopefully more successful than last night) mongering in Danang, Vietnam tonight and my journey back towards LOS over the next couple of days.[/QUOTE]You will have a lot better time if you don't drink so much.
You fell asleep in a bathroom?
You may wake up with your nuts chopped off if your not careful.
Nice postings bro.
When we catch up next will go to Wild Country off Soi 22 - it is an eye opener.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss]You will have a lot better time if you don't drink so much.
You fell asleep in a bathroom?
You may wake up with your nuts chopped off if your not careful.[/QUOTE]
Luvpuss - not so much fell asleep as became comatose, and I already gleaned the drink less = more fun sometimes from Ozz (as I mentioned).... although I am young, so do plan on a few more crazy drinking nights.
[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr]Nice postings bro.
When we catch up next will go to Wild Country off Soi 22 - it is an eye opener.[/QUOTE]
I'm heading back to the Nanatai today. When are you back in town (I know it is around same time as me)?
[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr]Nice postings bro.
When we catch up next will go to Wild Country off Soi 22 - it is an eye opener.[/QUOTE]
Wild Country?
I was wandering around Chatuchak market last week and came across a new-looking club called the Hareem Club. There was a sign outside seeking to recruit 'coyote dancers/models/waitresses' as I recall. The entrance was minaret-shaped which indicated a middle-Eastern theme perhaps? It was over the road to the left of ChCh market as you look at it from the main entrance.
Somebody bored with the usual haunts may want to check it out one day...?
[QUOTE=Pita123]Wild Country?[/QUOTE]
You don't know this place??? OMG it is a MUST Try in Thailand.
Basically, you go in and immediately get attacked by its Stench, but being a fighter, you make your way to a sofa/seat and girls Join you. You buy them cheap 60thb whisky and they will do anything you want, in the bar. HJ, BJ, FS...
After a few drinks, the place and its seediness grows on you and you can't help but feel more and more at home... a pair of tits in your face, a mouth on your dick and a sloppy Grin on your face. Think of Wild Country as a bigger version of the Naughty Boy Corner @ Afterskool in Cowboy.
Girls aren't that great looking but let's say an hour in this place with drinks for 2 ladies and tips can be about 1,000 thb. Cheap, cheap.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You don't know this place??? OMG it is a MUST Try in Thailand.
Basically, you go in and immediately get attacked by its Stench, but being a fighter, you make your way to a sofa/seat and girls Join you. You buy them cheap 60thb whisky and they will do anything you want, in the bar. HJ, BJ, FS...
After a few drinks, the place and its seediness grows on you and you can't help but feel more and more at home... a pair of tits in your face, a mouth on your dick and a sloppy Grin on your face. Think of Wild Country as a bigger version of the Naughty Boy Corner @ Afterskool in Cowboy.
Girls aren't that great looking but let's say an hour in this place with drinks for 2 ladies and tips can be about 1,000 thb. Cheap, cheap.[/QUOTE]Yeah that sums up the place fairly nicely!
Both times I have been there the girl who has gotten me off has been one of the younger, cuter ladies, with an old hag helping out from time to time.
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originally posted by bunky
it has been awhile since this topic was updated, so i thought i'd post a trip report. hopefully it will be of some use to future visitors arriving at bkk for the first time.
as your flight nears bangkok the airline will provide you with an immigration form to fill out. take your time and complete it neatly and correctly. (don't forget the back side.) government bureaucrats the world over hate sloppy paperwork.
when you get off the plane your first stop will be immigration. follow the signs, taking the moving walkways as needed. hint: try to get off the plane first, and walk fast. if you get to immigration early the lines will be much shorter.
when you approach the immigration checkpoint there is a confusing sign that says "visa on arrival 140 meters" with an arrow pointing in a direction that is away from the immigration checkpoint. at the bottom of this sign it says in small letters "aot." this is a company that offers high-priced car service, along with "special handling" through immigration. don't fall for this scam. follow the overhead signs to the official immigration checkpoint.
discussion of thailand immigration law is beyond the scope of this report. so do your research and make sure you know what will be required for entry. i am a united states citizen, so i qualified for a 30-day "visa on arrival." officially the thai authorities reserve the right to require proof of financial solvency and evidence that you've booked "onward travel." my inspector didn't ask about those things. in fact, he didn't say a word. he stamped my passport with a visa indicating i could stay for 30 days, and he stapled to one of the pages a form i'll hand in when i leave.
after you pass through the immigration checkpoint you'll be in the main baggage claim area. rep001tered among the carousels there are booths to change money. they all offer the same rate. you can get a better rate in town, so don't change too much. make sure to get some hundred baht notes so you can pay the taxi fare.
finding the correct baggage carousel can be tricky. there are monitors showing all the incoming flights, but instead of listing the flights by city of origin they are listed by arrival time. even more confusing, if the flight originated in, say, chicago and connected in tokyo the origin may be listed as chicago instead of tokyo. also, many airline flights these days are "code share," so a single flight may have three different airlines and flight numbers associated with it and the monitor displays all three in rotation. i had to stand there for a good five minutes, forcing my jet-lagged brain to figure it out.
while you wait for your luggage, read the signs explaining the customs rules. most travelers will qualify for the "nothing to declare" line. near the baggage carousels there are free carts. very nice. load up your stuff and make your way to the exit, which is located on the opposite side of the hall from where the immigration inspectors are located. if you have nothing to declare, look for the green signs. the authorities reserve the right to inspect your luggage for contraband, either by hand or via an x-ray machine. i was waived through. i've read elsewhere this is common for western travelers.
once you clear customs follow the signs for "public taxi." you'll pass numerous people who work for car services who will try to sell you an expensive ride into town. unless you're made of money they are generally a bad deal. if you arranged with one of the independent taxi services (mr. t or mr. toom, for example) for a ride to points distant (like pattaya) look for your driver in this crowd.
if you're just going into bangkok via public taxi, you'll have to descend to the lower level. they have these nifty moving ramps that are a cross between an escalator and a moving sidewalk. very handy if you have a heavy baggage cart. at the bottom of the ramps you'll see door number four.
exit through door four and you'll see the taxi dispatcher. you'll also see a sign explaining there is a 50 baht surcharge for airport pickups. once you tell the dispatcher where you are going she'll fill out a form. one part goes to the driver and you keep the other half. all the major hotels are well known, but if you're headed someplace off the beaten path now is the time to ensure that the driver knows where's he's going. my hotel e-mailed me a map with the streets labeled in thai, but the dispatcher and the driver said that was unnecessary.
most of the taxis are toyota corollas with the "limo" package. as far as i can tell, this adds room to the back seat at the cost of a smaller trunk. if you're traveling alone there will be plenty of room for you and your things. (i most definitely do not pack light, and i was fine.) but if you're in a group or you have tons of baggage you should probably tell the dispatcher so she can rustle up a large vehicle.
once you get started the cab driver will ask: "highway?" tell him yes. he'll use the toll road, which is much faster. there are two tolls between the airport and downtown and you have to pay both. at the first toll plaza give the driver a hundred baht note. he'll pay that toll and hold on to the change. at the second toll plaza he'll pay that toll and give you some coins back. if i recall correctly, the tolls were 80 baht in all. so the added cost to save time is well worth it.
i was staying at the grand millennium, which is located near the intersection of sukhumvit and asok. the fare on the meter was 315 baht. with the surcharge it was 365 baht. tipping is not expected, but i gave the driver 400 baht.
so all in the taxi from the airport to downtown bangkok cost 480 baht. at the current exchange rate that's about usd $16. that's definitely a bargain compared to the car services, which charge thousands and thousands of baht. and i'm proof that a first time visitor who doesn't speak a word of thai was easily hire a public taxi.
hope this was helpful.
bunky
[quote=jed wordsmith]great post and useful information, thanks. one additional tip: if you take the expressway as bunky suggests, when you get to the first toll booth (25 baht) the meter should read approximately bt141, give or take a couple of baht. if it's significantly higher than that (remember, at the *first* 25 bt booth, not the second 45bt one!) then the meter is rigged.[/quote]
let me share my experience with this.
i stayed many times in soi 19 (one roaad next to the grand millennium who is at soi 21).
if the car driver takes the earlier exit (i believe exit asoke, the opposite way of the grand mercure / shopping mall fortune) you can be on your place within 25 minutes and just for around 250 thb including the first highway tol gate. he has to know this because he has to go earlier from the highway. later if you see the big purple grand mercure building on your right side driving on the highway you are too late and have to take the sukhumvit exit.
i always take a cab from the departure zone (one level up from arrivals). two reasons for that. first you can choose the cab you like (and let the older pass away) and you only pay the starting (standard) fee of 35 thb.
when leaving soi 19 i had many times cab drivers who drove into the direction of the grand mercure/asoke/fortune shopping mall and who take the (lower) parallel way instead of the higher highway.
this route is even faster (off course depending on the time of the day) and cheaper.
some cab drivers told me they take this road because its quicker and cheaper. i remember once that i had to pay just over 200 thb.
as all thais i guess they expect that you give them a nice tip because they serviced you correctly:).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You don't know this place??? OMG it is a MUST Try in Thailand. [/QUOTE]
I can think of some other MUSTs that I've had the pleasure of avoiding. :)
[QUOTE=Somewhere15]Some cab drivers told me they take this road because its quicker and cheaper. I remember once that I had to pay just over 200 THB.
As all Thais I guess they expect that you give them a nice tip because they serviced you correctly:).[/QUOTE]
of course ! and THEY expect to be tipped because they make YOU saving money and they want IT! :)
[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr]Yeah that sums up the place fairly nicely!
Both times I have been there the girl who has gotten me off has been one of the [b]younger[/b], cuter ladies, with an old hag helping out from time to time.[/QUOTE]
I thought the youngest was the 46 years old Bartender? LOL
Ok, only kidding! at night there are young ones coming to help out/
[b]Quote from the below article: but he said he has done his best to keep his wife and her family happy.[/b]
WTF??? isn't the woman supposed to make sure the man is happy? especially when she does not work and he brings all the dough.
What is the world coming down to?
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4[/url]
I’ve just been out for two days in Patong nightlife and it was really disappointing. I don’t find any girls worth shagging here. Is the situation different in Bangkok?
Perhaps all the really hot chicks go to other countries where they earn more? Or do the hot ones avoid the P2P scene because the worry about their marriage potential?
Well, I’m not giving up :-), but I’m kind of getting desperate here – does anyone have contacts of a “perfect 11” high-end model (looks are top priority, GFE not so important)? PM me and I’ll be happy to throw some rounds of beer (or better stuff) in return.
[QUOTE=Pussyheaven]does anyone have contacts of a “perfect 11” high-end model (looks are top priority, GFE not so important)[/QUOTE]
If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.
Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners.
[url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.
Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners.
[url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Hm, after registering, getting a thai-only error message. Nice of them.
ระบบอัตโนมัติ ได้่ส่งรหัส active ชื่อบัญชีไปยัง E-mail ของท่านแล้ว กรุณายืนยันตัวตนของท่านอีกครั้ง
Not sure what it says in Thai, but nothing showed up in my Yahoo mail inbox. I went back and clicked a link on the site to have the activation email resent. Same result, nothing. Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?
[QUOTE=Wendella]Hm, after registering, getting a thai-only error message. Nice of them.
ระบบอัตโนมัติ ได้่ส่งรหัส active ชื่อบัญชีไปยัง E-mail ของท่านแล้ว กรุณายืนยันตัวตนของท่านอีกครั้ง
Not sure what it says in Thai, but nothing showed up in my Yahoo mail inbox. I went back and clicked a link on the site to have the activation email resent. Same result, nothing. Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?[/QUOTE]
FYI
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Wow!
I will write more when I recover from the best BBJ in my life, by a girl who is a solid 8, and is early 20s at the oldest.
FARK, I almost passed out.
[QUOTE=Wendella] Bogus website attempting to collect email and phone number data?[/QUOTE]
Works perfect for me... See:
[url]http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77093_1_123_345lo.jpg[/url]
[url]http://img249.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77094_2_123_244lo.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If looks are a Top Priority, then head back to Bangkok asap.... there is nothing for you in Phuket, seriously.
Try this website, register (FREE) and then browse all their girls... some places like The Lord, La Belle have some stunners. [url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
This is a great website. I get email updates from the site when new girls are added to the various parlors.
Right now, I am doing my homework for my next trip back to BKK in Feb. At present based on the pictures alone, I think Copa Cabana, Emmanuelle, La De'fense, Long Beach and La Belle have the hottest women. But you never know what you will find until you walk through the doors.
Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]This is a great website. I get email updates from the site when new girls are added to the various parlors.
Right now, I am doing my homework for my next trip back to BKK in Feb. At present based on the pictures alone, I think Copa Cabana, Emmanuelle, La De'fense, Long Beach and La Belle have the hottest women. But you never know what you will find until you walk through the doors.
Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?[/QUOTE]
No there isn't. Its simply a rule that Farangs pay more.
Utopia charge is ridiculous unless you have a very special girl there to make it worthwhile. But then you might just arrange to meet in private.
It you don't like it, go to a different place with no Farang charge or a lower Farang charge, e.g. Nataree.
[QUOTE]I stayed many times in Soi 19 (one road next to the Grand Millennium who is at Soi 21). If the driver takes the earlier exit (I believe exit Asoke, the opposite way of the Grand Mercure / Shopping Mall Fortune) you can be on your place within 25 minutes and just for around 250 THB including the first highway toll gate. [Second point re quickest route back to airport deleted to conserve space.][/QUOTE]Sounds like this gentlemen is *VERY* with Bangkok geography. I am the same way in my home town, where I know to the last tenth of a percent the quickest taxi route (in time or distance) between any two points.
In summary, if you are: (a) well versed in the Bangkok street grid, and (b) possessed of enough Thai to direct the driver to your preferred routing, you can save 200-250 baht compared to lining up with clueless newbie tourists like me at the cab stand outside exit four and letting the system work. For me, it's not worth the effort to save USD $6-8. As the old saw posits, the perfect is the enemy of the good.
But I recognize this type of advice is in the finest and best tradition of online forums, where the group strives to collect the absolute best information about any given topic, no matter how marginal the improvement one course of action has over another. (Recently read a massive thread on a board frequent by frequent fliers discussion the best airport lounges at Narita. Dozens of posts compared the quality of the free soap in the showers. Not really a concern for me. :-) But something that nevertheless contributes to the continuing discussion. So I appreciate all the followups to my original "airport taxi FAQ."
Bunky
[QUOTE=Pussyheaven]I’ve just been out for two days in Patong nightlife and it was really disappointing. I don’t find any girls worth shagging here. Is the situation different in Bangkok?
Perhaps all the really hot chicks go to other countries where they earn more? Or do the hot ones avoid the P2P scene because the worry about their marriage potential?
Well, I’m not giving up :-), but I’m kind of getting desperate here – does anyone have contacts of a “perfect 11” high-end model (looks are top priority, GFE not so important)? PM me and I’ll be happy to throw some rounds of beer (or better stuff) in return.[/QUOTE]
There are many high end good looking girls in Patpong bars in BKK. Most of these bars allow only Japanese and korean guys inside. Once I went with a Korean guy and it is very expensive to do anything there including companionship, buying drinks etc. The tab can alone could put you back a thousand dollars. I guess they have their clientale who spend lavishly.
Ofcourse the girls look like models with their dress and make up. Never took any girl from there so I do not know how they look in the morning. I am sure many businessmen take them as eyecandy. As for me for a short time sex deal I would settle for a cheap girl who gets me off. I have sponsored beatifull normal girls in Phi and Thailand for extended relationships.
In p4p world why spend lots of money just to be with a beautifull girl who may or may not be good in bed.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Nic, a question: is there any way to avoid or mitigate the farang tax levied at La Belle and Utopia?[/QUOTE]
Well, unless you look Asian... if not you will have to pay. BUT since the girl usually gets 100% of the Surcharge (500thb) then there is no need to tip her after the session.
I never tip the girls when I am charged the Farang Surcharge. It usually work out the same.
[QUOTE=Sammon]There are many high end good looking girls in Patpong bars in BKK. [/QUOTE]Patpong has a lot of women, but few would be considered "high end." You probably mean Soi Thaniya which is next to the Patpong District, directly adjacent to the Sal Daeng BTS Station. It is home to many "Japan Clubs."
[QUOTE]Most of these bars allow only Japanese and korean guys inside. Once I went with a Korean guy and it is very expensive to do anything there including companionship, buying drinks etc. The tab can alone could put you back a thousand dollars. I guess they have their clientale who spend lavishly.[/QUOTE]Correct, although some of the clubs do allow white foreigners. It's a different socializing routine in these clubs, and can be very expensive.
[QUOTE]Ofcourse the girls look like models with their dress and make up. Never took any girl from there so I do not know how they look in the morning. [/QUOTE]Some of the prettiest women in Bangkok work on Soi Thaniya, but they definitely have a cultivated "look" intended for the Asian monger. A good time to check out the scene is between 8 and 9 PM when the ladies are sitting outside the clubs waiting for their next victim (walking ATM, that is).
[QUOTE]In p4p world why spend lots of money just to be with a beautifull girl who may or may not be good in bed.[/QUOTE]Could it be that some men's egos know no bounds? More likely, for discerning men, hiring a beautiful woman for a night is like borrowing a fast car from a friend, or renting art for a holiday condo. All are meant to be savored and enjoyed...then returned to their owner.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]is like borrowing a fast car from a friend[/QUOTE]Who lends out their car?
I caught something on another board about Sukhumvit area bars being closed his weekend (December 3-5) and next weekend (December 10-12) due to some sort of election.
Can anybody verify, and does this include Nana/Cowboy?
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]Wow!
I will write more when I recover from the best BBJ in my life, by a girl who is a solid 8, and is early 20s at the oldest.
FARK, I almost passed out.[/QUOTE]Do you have a name?
[QUOTE=Blourghus]I caught something on another board about Sukhumvit area bars being closed his weekend (December 3-5) and next weekend (December 10-12) due to some sort of election.
Can anybody verify, and does this include Nana/Cowboy?[/QUOTE]
This weekend is the King's birthday. Birthday Dec 5, and observed Dec. 6. So no drinking. :) Lot of people taking this long weekend (Dec 3-6) off. Dec 10 is Constitution Day.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]This weekend is the King's birthday. Birthday Dec 5, and observed Dec. 6. So no drinking. :) Lot of people taking this long weekend (Dec 3-6) off. Dec 10 is Constitution Day.[/QUOTE]Sorry. Nope.
This weekend is something like "pre-elections". People, who cannot go to the elections next week can / have to go this weekend.
For that - no alcohol! For 3 days.
Surprisingly - next week are the elections. That means - no alcohol, for 3 days.
Wow. TIT. Btw., we had some bad month before, that was the right time for elections (pre- and real ones). Now should be high season ...
Anyway, Livingstone's is still open.
Nobody can EVER understand this country, and its government. Nobody can, and nobody will - EVER - understand the responsilbe people running this country.
Time to leave. It's too damned stupid.
Giotto (drunk, and extremely pissed about the last Thai experiences!)
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[QUOTE=Giotto]...This weekend is something like "pre-elections". People, who cannot go to the elections next week can / have to go this weekend....For that - no alcohol! For 3 days.[/QUOTE]Patpong bars are open and serving...
Vendors were even selling cans of beer on Silom Road. Go figure...
[QUOTE=Giotto]Sorry. Nope.
This weekend is something like "pre-elections". People, who cannot go to the elections next week can / have to go this weekend.
For that - no alcohol! For 3 days.
Surprisingly - next week are the elections. That means - no alcohol, for 3 days...
...Giotto (drunk, and extremely pissed about the last Thai experiences!)
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url][/QUOTE]
What happened, Giotto?
Did you fall down on your head?
Today (5/12/10) is the King's 83rd birthday ... no alcohol ... and maybe tomorrow too ...
Next week on the 10th is the 60th anniversary of the King's ascension to the throne ... maybe no alcohol again ... and maybe there are elections too ... TIT.
I am planning a trip to Bangkok. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how much money I should take?
Expected expenses include:
7 days at nana hotel
Food
Transportation
Bar fines
Drinks
Whatever fee the bar girl gets for sex, I want least would like to partake in at least 1 a day. From what I have read this anywhere between 1000-2000 is that right?
Advice appreciated, Did I forget any expenses?
Off course the airfare is handled already
Perhaps you know of a better hotel near the action(guest friendly)
[QUOTE=Daddy07]...
Did you fall down on your head?
Today (5/12/10) is the King's 83rd birthday ... no alcohol ... and maybe tomorrow too ...
...[/QUOTE]LOL, most likely I did.
Again, this no-alcohol days have nothing to do with the birthday of the king. It's because of the elections.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
The no sell alcohol policy has very little effect. I was eating around sukhumvit and when I ordered beer with the food I was told that I could step down from the window seat and eat there and beer was brought in glasses (no bottles around). I think it is the same thing in NEP and Cowboy. Stores have signs that they cant sell alcohol, I didnt try myself but one guy just grabbed a few Heinekens at the 7Eleven and paid them normally at the cashier so no effect.
During my 2 nights I ended barfining 2 different girls from the bar directly across Shebas in Cowboy. 1st night BFd young looking slim girl who was actually 29 then the next night switched to a 19yo. Dont remember the name of the bar. Some (maybe 1, barely 2) girls very hot there but the rest just usual, but I still liked fucking them. Ended up one night at this "loy kratong" party (anyone know what it is?) where I took a taxi like with 5 bargirls after a short time with my girl I wanted to accompany her there and she met her friends I saw earlier at that bar (we all were drunk) to some place far near Rama8 and there people and I too lit up those things and let them fly into the sky and also put those things with candles onto the water. Seemed like I was the only farang there at 2 am :)
Then came to the hotel to sleep...it was a good choice...looks like no-one wanted any company for the night...
Anyone familiar with a G-Glub called The Sky?
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]The no sell alcohol policy has very little effect. I was eating around sukhumvit and when I ordered beer with the food I was told that I could step down from the window seat and eat there and beer was brought in glasses (no bottles around). I think it is the same thing in NEP and Cowboy. Stores have signs that they cant sell alcohol, I didnt try myself but one guy just grabbed a few Heinekens at the 7Eleven and paid them normally at the cashier so no effect.
During my 2 nights I ended barfining 2 different girls from the bar directly across Shebas in Cowboy. 1st night BFd young looking slim girl who was actually 29 then the next night switched to a 19yo. Dont remember the name of the bar. Some (maybe 1, barely 2) girls very hot there but the rest just usual, but I still liked fucking them. Ended up one night at this "loy kratong" party (anyone know what it is?) where I took a taxi like with 5 bargirls after a short time with my girl I wanted to accompany her there and she met her friends I saw earlier at that bar (we all were drunk) to some place far near Rama8 and there people and I too lit up those things and let them fly into the sky and also put those things with candles onto the water. Seemed like I was the only farang there at 2 am :)
Then came to the hotel to sleep...it was a good choice...looks like no-one wanted any company for the night...[/QUOTE]All bars are open where I live near Chatuchak. Coyote bars, normal bars, 7-11, etc.
So Nana & Cowboy will still be open? But not serve alcohol?
What are the exact dates/times affected?
How about the discos such as Climax?
Is this in Pattaya also?
Since there were 2 posters inquiring about where to find the hottest girls, I thought I would share my notes from this thread; the general consensus is that these establishments have hot girls:
Pegasus
Nataree
Rachada soapies (Poseidon, Amsterdam, Caesars)
All of them pretty pricey. Do a search for more info. Note: I haven't been to any of them yet, this is just from my research. From my last trip I have experience in the Rainbow bars at Nana, where IMO you can already find some really hot women.
The Beer Garden at Soi 7 gets some mixed reviews especially later in the evening but if you not after the stunning 21 year olds it's an ok place. I am myself in the forties but well preserved.
It's easy to check out the women and easy to see if anyone is interested. That is if you are careful selecting. On this trip I wasn't in my first attempt.
I was talking to some old-timers from Scotland when a smiling woman in the early 30's approached us. She looked ok and was not dressed like a *****. I am not into the dyed hair and high heels.
She was from Udon and turned out to be the worst lay I have had in Thailand. She was nice but seemed completely ignorant about sex. She had 2 children in Udon so it couldn't be her first time!
Next evening on the king's birthday I went by Thermae just to revisit the place. A couple of years ago I was staying at the Raumchitt Hotel above the Thermae and have taken some nice girls upstairs.
It's properly more difficult now competing with the very 'short' time Asian guys.
The atmosphere is stone cold, but its fun to watch.
Then I went onto Beergarden again at around 11 PM. There was a sweet girl talking to 3 guys. They were definitely not going to take her out, but it was not possible to get her attention. There was also a nice girl – nonpro student type. Sitting next to me but she was staring down at the table and constantly checking out her mobile. I was waiting to long to talk to her. It would be a bit awkward to approach her after 10 minutes.
I decided to go down towards Nana passing the usual bunch of black girls around Soi 3. It looks a bit like Istedgade, in the red light area in Copenhagen. The black girls are primarily trying to get the attention of Arab looking guys and that's fine by me.
Having a drink at the bar opposite the Nana Parking Lot I saw a very small cute looking girl. I must admit that it's difficult to be a 100% sure about the gender of the 'girls' standing in front of the Nana Parking lot, even if they are small and cute. She was just leaving the place was I was going to approach her, so I went back to The Beer Garden again. The nice looking girl was still talking to the 3 guys. Walking around I saw a girl in her late twenties sitting alone. Her nick name was something like 'Blaah'- the same as the word for fish in Thai. She spoke English remarkably well. I try to improve my small knowledge of Thai and keep the Thai/English book out in the open. It's a nice ice breaker to talk about language.
'Blaah' was from Ubon and had at one point studied to be a nurse. She definitely knew all about the human body and turned out to be an excellent GFE. She staid the whole night. She never asked about a specific sum so I gave her 3000. On the subject of ladyboys she actually told me that sometimes even she couldn't be sure. I got her phone number will properly call her tomorrow. If you meet 'Blaah' treat her well.
At this very moment I am checking out Chinatown: Soi Texas (Thanon Padung Dao), Texas Massage, Maitri Chit and the small streets in between.
The girls and quite old ladies are standing out in the open. And most of them are smiling at you. They know that you (in my case) are a dirty old man and not stumbled upon this place by accident. Especially at 'Thanon Mit Phan' up to the round about there was a lot of girls. Also on the small streets around Texas Massage (it's actually marked at Google Earth) opposite the China Town Hotel, there were many girls. On Maitri Chit itself (a not so busy broad street) there were a few girls.
It's a bit odd with the girls standing between people working on street right besides them. So far I have only been checking out the area I will let you now how it goes. I hope my basic Thai knowledge will do but 'Nyng pan' meaning a 1000 should do the trick. You will also have to pay for the short time hotel. Song roi means 200.
[QUOTE=Prefamous]Perhaps you know of a better hotel near the action(guest friendly)[/QUOTE]
Don't how it is these days (it's been 5 years since I've last visited BKK), but I stayed at the Grace Hotel. Definitely guest friendly and 10 minute walk to the action (Nana?).
I'll be back this Christmas and New Year's, but most of my time will be spent in Hua Hin with my GF. No time for mongering unless she's up for it, too.
I'm just back from a few days in Thailand. Thought this may interest some of you!
I was having a quiet drink one evening at Safari Bar (Patpong 1) when an English guy of around 35 walked in, sat down near to me and ordered a beer.
He was obviously rather upset, must have needed someone to talk to and had obviously chosen me!
He started to tell me his problems,
He was just an ordinary guy who had to work hard for his money in UK and his trips to L. O. S were limited.
On his 1st trip to Thailand, around 18 months ago, he had met a Thai girl (in Phuket I think.) She had, within a few days, become his "regular girl friend" and he had started sending her monthly donations. On subsequent visits he had met the parents, sister and various other family members.
On this trip, he had only arrived a few days ago, he was met by the whole family and told that a payment of some "huge amount" of Thai Baht was required if the relationship was to continue!
During the subsequent argument / discussion he was also informed that what he thought was his girlfriend's sister's baby was actually the child of his girlfriend!
He was distraught and asked my advice.
I told him to change his hotel, throw away his SIM card, get a new one, and start to enjoy himself rather than be the walking ATM that this family expected!
He had already decided to have no further contact with his (now EX) girlfriend but also seemed to have decided that he would have no further contact with any Thai girl.
I told him that I thought that this was a bad decision and what he needed, in my opinion, was a cute, friendly, playmate for the evening to take his mind off his problems. So after finishing his beer we were off to one of the few remaining "upstairs, naughty bars" in Patpong.
Now, I am not a stranger to this bar so, as soon as I sat down I had a friendly attentive (and naked) playmate by my side and my new chum also had a naked dancer with a nice body straddling him and playing "tonsil hockey" with him while he gave her a detailed chest examination.
As he had never been to anywhere like this before it took him some time, after I had explained how things worked, to fully get into the "ambience" of the place and enjoy what was on offer but he caught on rather quickly and, with a little guidance from me was soon enjoying all the delights that a BKK bar has offer.
Now, during this time a new playmate had joined me (One that I had not seen before) who was young, rather attractive with no kids and an absolutely beautiful body.
My new chum, rather sheepishly, told me that he thought that she was "absolutely beautiful" and that, if she was not already with me he would be bar fining her long time!
So, a few words in my playmates ear that "My friend like you and want to take you long time" she quickly transferred her allegiance (and her naked body) to my chum.
I don't think that I have ever seen anyone so astonished, or so happy, as him at that moment. It's as if all his Christmas wishes had been answered at once so, after they had a few minutes to get to know each other I helped him negotiate the bar fine and long time rate for her.
I don't think that anyone has been quite as grateful to me as that guy was. I'm sure that he couldn't believe his luck! From suicidal to absolute ecstasy in around one hour. And so, after continually telling me for 15 minutes that I was the "best guy he had ever met" and that I had "saved his life" he finally left the bar with his new friend for a night of fun and games.
I already mentioned that I am no stranger to that bar so many of the girls, and the Moma San's know me and I had already made sure that the girl would treat him very well during their time together.
I left BKK early the next morning but can not keep from smiling when I think of how I was able to change this guys perception of Thai girls and, hopefully, ensured he enjoyed the rest of his time in Thailand. I will probably never see him again but I must admit that I felt good that I could help a fellow traveller.
Oh yes, my final words to him as he left, with his new and attentive playmate, were DON'T FALL IN LOVE! I hope he follows my advice!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666]I’m just back from a few days in Thailand. Thought this may interest some of you!
I was having a quiet drink one evening at Safari Bar (Patpong 1) when an English guy of around 35 walked in, sat down near to me and ordered a beer.
He was obviously rather upset, must have needed someone to talk to and had obviously chosen me!
He started to tell me his problems.
Oh yes, my final words to him as he left, with his new and attentive playmate, were DON’T FALL IN LOVE! I hope he follows my advice!
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Well done,mate.
I trust that girl (the fresh one) does not have any sick buffalo at home or the story will start all over again!
[QUOTE=Prefamous]7 days at nana hotel
Perhaps you know of a better hotel near the action(guest friendly)[/QUOTE]Nana Hotel is certainly guest friendly but it is also old and rather rundown. Majestic Suites is a newer hotel in about the same price range as Nana and in the same area (practically just across the street).
[QUOTE=Coitus68]Don't how it is these days (it's been 5 years since I've last visited BKK), but I stayed at the Grace Hotel. Definitely guest friendly and 10 minute walk to the action (Nana?).
I'll be back this Christmas and New Year's, but most of my time will be spent in Hua Hin with my GF. No time for mongering unless she's up for it, too.[/QUOTE]Grace is "ARAB CENTRAL". If it bothers someone, they might not want to stay there.
Hi guys. How's disco club in BKK. How's about CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO. You think could be good to get some thai girls inside?. Any new report about?. Thank in advance to everybody will reply.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666]I left BKK early the next morning but can not keep from smiling when I think of how I was able to change this guys perception of Thai girls and, hopefully, ensured he enjoyed the rest of his time in Thailand. I will probably never see him again but I must admit that I felt good that I could help a fellow traveller.
Oh yes, my final words to him as he left, with his new and attentive playmate, were DON’T FALL IN LOVE! I hope he follows my advice!
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Nice story, well done, great advice. If you don't listen, this can out very painful for your heart and also expensive. To a very high % of the time!
[QUOTE=Gwailo]Nana Hotel is certainly guest friendly but it is also old and rather rundown. Majestic Suites is a newer hotel in about the same price range as Nana and in the same area (practically just across the street).[/QUOTE]
You could also consider Dynasty Inn --- two minutes from Nana Plaza
[url]http://www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnRate.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]You could also consider Dynasty Inn --- two minutes from Nana Plaza
[url]http://www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnRate.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Was cheking out dynasty, I noticed it's cheaper. How big are the rooms. They have compact & standard which I was looking at. also I think maybe I want to go to pattaya also.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]You could also consider Dynasty Inn --- two minutes from Nana Plaza
[url]http://www.dynastyinn.com/beta_DynastyInnRate.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Thai is where I stay. Highly recomend. Great staff. Always check id cards. And call to check if your ok when they leave. More like 2 seconds to Nana Plaza.
[QUOTE=Coitus68]Don't how it is these days (it's been 5 years since I've last visited BKK), but I stayed at the Grace Hotel. Definitely guest friendly and 10 minute walk to the action (Nana?).[/QUOTE]
Unless you are Arab, African or Indian, don't stay at this hotel!! I don't want to sound Racist but as a White man, you will not be very welcome there.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
There are way Better hotels than the Grace... Solo hotel on Soi 2 for example, 5mn walk to Annies and they have a tuk tuk (free) that takes you to Sukhumvit
I normally don't contribute to anything but the photo section but feel compelled to comment.
The last time I was in the Grace Hotel (and it was a while ago), the place was a wild and wooly place. Sort of the like the bar in Star Wars 1. I was there with a bunch of buddies who had just come out of a war zone and we were having fun. We were in a booth and I sat on the back so I could see better. There were some ladies with us including a few US Marines who hadn't been shot at for days. A waiter came over and in the din of 120 decibels told me to sit down. I said if I did I couldn't see anything. At that point he drew a .38 revolver and pointed it at me. I sat down.
And that was before soi 3 became Little Arabia. So don't be too hard on the place. It was once recommended for officers and women during the days when it was an R&R hotel for GI's during the Vietnam war (one of four out of 52).
[QUOTE=Jutju]Thai is where I stay. [/QUOTE]
:confused:
There isn't any Thai Hotel in this region.
Used to be one near Khao San Road.
Apologies for not being in Bangkok Hotels thread.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
[/QUOTE]
A few years back, I heard a story that a psycho guy murdered a Thai WG in his bedroom one night and hid her and used the "do not disturb" sign. The girl did not pick her Id card in the morning, but no-one worried yet. The next night he got another girl and murdered her as well, so the story goes.
He then checked out, without bodies being found yet and got away.
I did stay there once (years ago) but Thai girls were certainly asking me why I stayed there???? Actually I can't remember why now. I guess places were booked heavy and Grace had a room available.
After so many hours spent on this forum, finally I made my first trip to Bangkok. I'd like to thank you all who contributed so far, so I could pretty much impress my fellow colleagues, who could not believe it's not my first time there :)
A few impressions to share, maybe it'll be in use for someone.. This is all personal experience, so it might be completely wrong as well.
- I can just confirm that by the evening it's far better to get the BTS to the action rather than taxi; we had serious issues even to get a taxi to the action point from where we stood (Klongsan) - taxi drivers categorically refused to take us to anywhere in Suk
- I followed a previous advice to get Apcalis (pharmacy aside NEP after the petrol station) and it worked like charm. Original was 2k, generic 400. Noone asked for anything else than the banknotes :) As a remark, I saw at least 10 places on the street selling the same stuff, obviously I have no idea whether it's not fake
- We visited Annie's on Sunday afternoon, but the selection was very poor... Maybe 20 girls, none of them hitting the bottom line of being interesting. It was funny to see another monger guy, I had the impression that he didn't know any other place and was hesitant to leave without score, but saw none of them fancy enough :) Mamasan did her best to catch - ordered the girls to stand and rotate and convincing poor fellow to choose... and he just shake his head and kept looking around embarrassed. We just finished our beer and left for better fields.
- We visited Poseidon, with almost the same result and ended up at Lord. There was definitely a much smaller selection than usual (there was a real fishbowl of a side of a theater :), but nice girls, exorbitant rates (from 2.6k until 5.x k if I remember well). We have chosen from the economy side, still pretty enough girls I think. The soapie was an interesting experience (being slowly massaged and bathed, with a very professional COB, then a short ride and I off I went). The girl has to be very good, usually I cannot be shot so quick, but otherwise rather mechanical and cold. Not my cup of tea.
- Spent a lot of time in Cowboy, visiting the bars which were recommended here. My personal favorite was Baccara, for the concept and the quality of girls (ground floor only, we didn't venture up to the second floor). There was one particular night, when we just could not find any of the bars interesting - I can't tell you whether our mood was different or all our kind of girls were already BFed. We had been in one with naked girls (Sheebas?), but the poor souls were so obviously embarrassed dancing naked that it spoiled the fun. The shows we have seen were quite freaky - balloons shot with darts(?) from their pussy and such - no, thanks for me.
- We have been in NEP just once, myself in two bars: Rainbow 4 (worth the effort, very good level) and Mandarin (this one was a failure for me, the concept is nice with the close proximity of the girls, but there was no one I found fancy enough to enjoy).
- On the first evening in Baccara I have chosen a SYT (she said she's 24). Could be max 40 kg (she was apologizing if she's too heavy sitting in my lap, good joke, my 12 y.o. son is heavier than that), thin, nice face, nonexistent breasts. She was one of the few dancing with some emotion, smiling, while the majority was like a crowd on the subway, getting to work bored :) She squeezed out 2 lady drinks of me, then I raised the question if she want to be taken. She immediately stated 2k ST. Sorry guys, I didn't bargain. Also following the advices here, I took her to the 7/11 and she politely chosen only a fruit juice only. Hotel staff didn't bat an eyelid, girl handed over her ID without questions. Service was very good, we took a bath together (what a difference to the soapie earlier!) and jumped to the bed. She wasn't too professional or practiced, but very enthusiastic. Once we're done, she said she'd like to stay, but she can't as she is having a job nighttime somewhere - I don't know if it's true or not, but as I had to work by the morning, I didn't care
- I went back to Baccara 2 days later, she literally jumped out of the stage and hugged me. I coughed up 2 drinks and the barfine and off we went. We had more time then, so after action we spent quite a time chatting. Her english was quite enough to discuss a few points I was very interested. She said she works only in Baccara and only on the ground floor ( I asked if she could choose, but she said no, pointing on her handful titties she's not big enough in chest for that :). It was very funny when she said she wouldn't be too happy of it anyway, as 'they're showing everything to the customers without being paid for it'. I began to be sleepy and she again stated she cannot stay, but would come back by the morning... Sadly it was my last night and I had to be at the airport by 10AM, so I declined. She was crying a bit silently on my shoulder - I have to admit I'm not sure why and I didn't ask her either, thinking whatever is the reason, there's hardly anything I can do), then I had to promise 10x that if I ever get back to Bangkok I'll find her. I also declined to exchange phone or email - what's the point? She left with some last kisses and hugs and I left with fond memories - and empty balls :)
- There was a discussion earlier about racism in the bars: I personally witnessed being outside of Rainbow 4 for smoking, that 4 Middle-Eastern guy was sent away from there by the bouncers stating that the next bar on the right is better... They tried to stand ground, but without success. Caucasians meanwhile kept to be invited.
I had a very nice impression and intended to return if I'll be able to manage it :) Thanks again to all contributing forum members for their helpful advices!
[QUOTE=Syzygies]A few years back, I heard a story that a psycho guy murdered a Thai WG in his bedroom one night and hid her and used the "do not disturb" sign. The girl did not pick her Id card in the morning, but no-one worried yet. The next night he got another girl and murdered her as well, so the story goes.
He then checked out, without bodies being found yet and got away.
I did stay there once (years ago) but Thai girls were certainly asking me why I stayed there???? Actually I can't remember why now. I guess places were booked heavy and Grace had a room available.[/QUOTE]
Is this the Thai version of Hotel California..? (cfr The Eagles) LOL
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Unless you are Arab, African or Indian, don't stay at this hotel!! I don't want to sound Racist but as a White man, you will not be very welcome there.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
There are way Better hotels than the Grace... Solo hotel on Soi 2 for example, 5mn walk to Annies and they have a tuk tuk (free) that takes you to Sukhumvit[/QUOTE]I dont think that Indian non- muslims stay, or would prefer to stay there!
[QUOTE=Jutju]Thai is where I stay. Highly recomend. Great staff. Always check id cards. And call to check if your ok when they leave. More like 2 seconds to Nana Plaza.[/QUOTE]
Dynasty Inn is girl friendly but they do charge if you take two girls up to the room.
Went out last night for a few bevvies on cowboy. Hit all the major spots. Shark was packed as usual. A girl I was keen on came up to me and started chatting. Silicone implants and a map of the world on her stomach. Looked about 28-30 years of age. Wanted 2, 000 baht for short time and would not come down. I quickly sent her away. It's laughable what the rates are these days. A 30-year old with stretch marks wants 2k for short time. Give me a fucking break. I'm off to Pattaya in a few weeks where the prices aren't so ridiculously high.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1100813]It's laughable what the rates are these days. A 30-year old with stretch marks wants 2k for short time. Give me a fucking break. I'm off to Pattaya in a few weeks where the prices aren't so ridiculously high.[/QUOTE]I think you'll be equally surprised at how ridiculous the prices are in Pattaya these days too!
Great report Hotman. The oldest trick, the sick water buffalo for the farang walking ATM. New SIM card, discard Richard Nixon's gmail account, etc. You have done a wonderful, humanitarian service to the other chap, who no doubt soon afterwards was providing a thorough tonsil and cervix massage. Nothing like a deep shot in a girls mouth to cheer a fellow up.
By all means have fun, but never let the oxytocin from little brain be exploited by shrewd, instant crocodile tears bar girls.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1100798]Dynasty Inn is girl friendly but they do charge if you take two girls up to the room.[/QUOTE]Sorry wanted to type "this is where I stay" not "Thai is where I stay". I have taken 2 girls back to the Dynasty many times never been charged. Maybe difference in the staff?
Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1100836]I think you'll be equally surprised at how ridiculous the prices are in Pattaya these days too![/QUOTE]Not always!
In Pattaya I am a big fan of the 'Coconut Bar' (Beach Road.) and was last there just over one week ago.
Prices are still, in my opinion, more than reasonable there with S. T. Being available at 500 Baht with no bar fine or lady drinks to pay for. (And, during the afternoons, many girls are happy to stay several hours for that price!)
OK, I must admit that not every Beach Road. Girl is a stunner but there are enough young, enthusiastic sweeties out there to make the search worthwhile.
In the Bar Beers (especially those on 2nd Road.) an average bar fine is 300 Baht plus a donation of around 1000 Baht for L. T. For your playmate.
Again, not such bad value by my standards even with the current exchange rate of less than 50 Baht for each of my English £'s!
I also managed to score some freebees! One was a Cambodian / Thai girl from Hua Hin who had a wait of more than 3 hours before she was to meet her brother.
In order to make her wait rather more pleasant I, (being a nice guy and Jai Dee) offered her the use of my room (and my body) which she was more than happy to accept!
Another was a black African tourist who, after a chat and a coffee, was happy to keep me company for 24 hours or so and was absolutely GREAT in bed.
By the way, the envious looks of other guys who could not help but notice me (a rather old and very white farrang) together with her (a young, slim, and VERY attractive black girl) were great and the experience certainly made a change from the usual L. B. F. M. S.
There is something available for all of us at a wide range of prices.
So, in my opinion, unless you are looking for that 'perfect 10 trophy fuck' (who may well turn out to be a starfish anyway) there is no need to pay the exorbitant prices that some of the Go Go or disco girls are asking.
Just put in a little work and your efforts will be repaid.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1100836]I think you'll be equally surprised at how ridiculous the prices are in Pattaya these days too![/QUOTE]I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1097517]On a similar vein, there is a new Indian restaurant several hundred metres up Soi 4 which must have opened very recently. Walked past it a least twice a day, but never saw a single cstomer there, but the same rather desperate looking waiter outside. How or why the owner thinks it can survive so far from passing trade beats me.[/QUOTE]One night I went by intending to eat. Sat down outside and they plunked a menu down that must have weighed 5 pounds. That immediately told me that this place was more expensive than I had been hoping for. Sure enough. Appetizers were nearly 300 baht, the meal 300 baht. With drinks and bread it would come to 1000 baht. I got up. Told them that their prices were crazy and went and got food at an Indian place on Suk for 1/2 the price. There was an Indian place there before. Bollywood. That went out of biz because it too was expensive. How they think by changing the name they will succeed is beyond me. All the Indian places around Suk are expensive really. I mean it's chicken and rice. Why do they charge twice what Thai chicken curry is which is chicken and rice.
[QUOTE=Kapitansex; 1100885]Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January. [/QUOTE]CM2 and Nana exist for the sole purpose of getting guys together with working girls. I think Supperclub is a more upscale and expensive place with non-working girls in there. Climax on Soi 11 is also full of girls who will find everything you say funny and interesting and tell you how handsome you are.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1100890]Not always!
In Pattaya I am a big fan of the 'Coconut Bar' (Beach Road.) and was last there just over one week ago.
Prices are still, in my opinion, more than reasonable there with S. T. Being available at 500 Baht with no bar fine or lady drinks to pay for. (And, during the afternoons, many girls are happy to stay several hours for that price!)
OK, I must admit that not every Beach Road. Girl is a stunner but there are enough young, enthusiastic sweeties out there to make the search worthwhile.
[/QUOTE]I wish some of you fans of Beach Road would show pictures of these lovely girls you see because I have traversed that stretch of road hundreds of time and never. I mean never. Seen a girl I would go with. That guys do boggles my mind. I'd rather do it myself. These girls belong in the Skank Hall of Shame.
"I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over."
I use to feel the same way but the trend is alarming. I have seen prices double in baht terms and more with the dollar dropping over the past 5 years. It's not hard to imagine that some day Thailand will go the way of Korea and Japan and will get priced out of the range of many of us. And after Thailand there really isn't anywhere else worth hanging your hat. Also,"awful job" is a relative term. Compared to what they would do otherwise. Work 12 hours in a 7-11 for 3000 baht a month, work in a factory doing the same repetitive thing for 12 hours. 28 days a month for 5000 baht or working on a farm planting and cutting rice? These girls make more money than Professors, cops (not including bribes of course) , govt officials and probably 99% of Thais. Of course they spend it just as fast!
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1101020]CM2 and Nana exist for the sole purpose of getting guys together with working girls. I think Supperclub is a more upscale and expensive place with non-working girls in there. Climax on Soi 11 is also full of girls who will find everything you say funny and interesting and tell you how handsome you are.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
[QUOTE=Jutju;1100635]Thai is where I stay. Highly recomend. Great staff. Always check id cards. And call to check if your ok when they leave. More like 2 seconds to Nana Plaza.[/QUOTE]Agreed, and if memory serves correctly, they offer a free shuttle from their hotel in Bangkok to the one in Pattaya, so a few days in the city and then a free drive to the beach. Excellent!
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1100813]Went out last night for a few bevvies on cowboy. Hit all the major spots. Shark was packed as usual. A girl I was keen on came up to me and started chatting. Silicone implants and a map of the world on her stomach. Looked about 28-30 years of age. Wanted 2, 000 baht for short time and would not come down. I quickly sent her away. It's laughable what the rates are these days. A 30-year old with stretch marks wants 2k for short time. Give me a fucking break. I'm off to Pattaya in a few weeks where the prices aren't so ridiculously high.[/QUOTE]It seems 2000 baht is what they want for short time at Soi Cowboy. Plus the 600 or 700 bar fine. Isn't Nana 2500? You probably can get that ugly girl at the bar to accept a lower tip, but I wouldn't know that for sure. LOL!
Pattaya isn't that much cheaper. It's between 600 to 1000 bar fine plus 1500 to 2000 tip for short time.
Note that these comments are for the better decent go-go bars in Thailand (we're not in the US or Europe; yes it is lot more expensive in the US; $70 for 2 or 3 hours compared to $150-200 for half an hour).
Ya there are 500 baht SW on beach road, but I agree with that other post; it's laughable when people say there are stunners there. But one man's pig is another man's lovely. To each his own.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1101083]Ya there are 500 baht SW on beach road, but I agree with that other post; it's laughable when people say there are stunners there. But one man's pig is another man's lovely. To each his own.[/QUOTE]BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit. Ironically, in the daylight of Beach Road, what you see is what you get, unlike a darkly lit Go-Go Bar or hostess club. And no overpriced lady drinks to keep a mamasan's breath out of your face.
A little sun, a little ocean air, a little sand in your toes. Add a little pussy and you have the makings of a good time, for not a lot of baht.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1101090]BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit. Ironically, in the daylight of Beach Road, what you see is what you get, unlike a darkly lit Go-Go Bar or hostess club. And no overpriced lady drinks to keep a mamasan's breath out of your face.
A little sun, a little ocean air, a little sand in your toes. Add a little pussy and you have the makings of a good time, for not a lot of baht. [/QUOTE]The girls in the picture you posted were decent. Takes time to fine those type of girls on beach road. They probably will want at least 700 baht? Still cheap though. On my personal scale, they would be a 6; maybe a 5 because they are older; probably moms.
I prefer 7s. There are usually no absolute stunners in normal bars of Pattaya IMO. Why would a Heidi Fleiss type of girl do it for 2000 baht when they can get a lot more in the special places of Bangkok.
It's a lot more money (2700 compared to 700) for a small jump in quality. But that's like every capital good (such as food, alcohol and weed). But you only live once.
Can anyone suggest a decent, clean and reasonably priced ST roon around the Grace Hotel area? I want to give one of those 'stans a whirl but don't really to bring her back to my hotel.
Sorry in advance if this is a repetitive question but I'm not that familar with the area.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1101090]BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit...[/QUOTE]You make an excellent point, Fon Tok, and I agree with you 100%. So why did you then contradict yourself with a photo of two barkers at the Coconut Bar? :D
I've seen a lot better than those two out there, and I bet you have too.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1101133]You make an excellent point, Fon Tok, and I agree with you 100%. So why did you then contradict yourself with a photo of two barkers at the Coconut Bar? :D I've seen a lot better than those two out there, and I bet you have too.[/QUOTE]Daddy: I know, I know.
But they don't all stay still enough to have their photos taken. Maybe you'll like this one a little better?
[QUOTE=Kapitansex; 1100885]Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January. [/QUOTE]You can also try "Bangkok Beat" if you want to start earlier (I. E. 11:00) before going to disco. Spicy is also good for late clubing (after 2 am) , as Climax.
PS In those places, you will most likely meet girls in the 28-32 year old range
[QUOTE=Kapitansex; 1100885]Hi to all experienced traverels of Bangkok. I just would like to know if somo of you guy has visited disco club like CM2 or BED SUPPERCLUB or NANA DISCO and if is possible to get some lady inside? .
Thankyou. I'll be in BKK from 9 up to 24th January. [/QUOTE]I know about CM2, if you really want to get laid, it will be hard not to find a girl there. Beware though, lots of lady boys. Largely CIS girls, some Thai and a small sprinkling of African girls. Headed to BKK next week, but I don't need to go to CM2 for my CIS fix anymore.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1101146]Daddy: I know, I know.
But they don't all stay still enough to have their photos taken. Maybe you'll like this one a little better? [/QUOTE]Nice... bet she was a real looker... maybe 15-20 years ago? :D
Here's an example of a little Beach Road girl who stays still for her photo (and other things) :
[QUOTE=Distantpeak;1100895]I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over.[/QUOTE]When comparing the gogo scene in BKK vs. Pattaya the prices don't vary all that much. In fact, I find that most of the BKK gogo girls go for cheaper than their counterparts in Pattaya.
The gogo scene in Pattaya is probably the worst deal in all of Pattaya. The freelance / beer bar scene is infinitely better in Pattaya, however.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1101186]Nice. Bet she was a real looker. Maybe 15-20 years ago? .
Here's an example of a little Beach Road girl who stays still for her photo (and other things) :[/QUOTE]Yes, you obviously do know where to pick your fruit from the coconut tree!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1101090]BS. There are a number of pretty girls out there along the Coconut Bar. You just have to be patient and look a little bit. Ironically, in the daylight of Beach Road, what you see is what you get, unlike a darkly lit Go-Go Bar or hostess club. And no overpriced lady drinks to keep a mamasan's breath out of your face.
A little sun, a little ocean air, a little sand in your toes. Add a little pussy and you have the makings of a good time, for not a lot of baht. [/QUOTE]I just have to go with my own personal experience, I just never see anything remotely nice walking the beat. If there is, then my timing has been bad. Sometimes I'll see one at a distance that looks ok but upon closer inspection they look older, worn and just not worth my time. Economics is King. There is a reason these girls price themselves at 500 baht when other girls in Pattaya are getting 1000 and up. They are not dumb, they just know where they stand on the Desirable Pyramid, at the bottom.
Another session in SOL. I picked Phung from outside and fucked her there and then in the bar, multiple positions. I supplied the condom, not sure if she would have insisted, have seen BBFS there in the past. Finished me off with a BJ. Apologies if you were the guy who came in to get a BJ in the toilet and saw my pasty behind bobbing away.
Quite satisfying.
People moan about the quality of the girls, but she's a real cutie in my view.
Stayed around Silom area for the evening. And journeyed around Patpong. Pretty depressing. Seems its suffering an identity crisis. The bar on the bridge has removed the curtains so you can see the girls dancing as you walk down PPII. But no lookers. Electric blue 9pm. 6 dancers. 2 patrons, dancers in bikini tops and bottoms. Mama said she can't remember a December so quiet. Pressured into BF / LD so left after just one. Popped my head into Safari. Even quieter. Nothing goin on but the rent.
KCI. A few more dancers but nothing to persuade me to stay. On PPII side on one of the connecting roads Kings have opened a kind of beer bar with live music, and opposite it a beer bar with pool tables. They are both pretty much open, were virtually empty and I've no idea who they are aimed at. The prevalence of annoying *s thrusting menus and pamphlets and gay DVDs in your face does not add to the ambience.
SOL is the only reason to go to PP these days I think. Although I want to try out Mike's bar too one day. Any dissenting views or was this just a bad day at the office for PP?
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1101186]Nice. Bet she was a real looker. Maybe 15-20 years ago? .
Here's an example of a little Beach Road girl who stays still for her photo (and other things) :[/QUOTE]Finally, a man who knows what 'beauty' means.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1101268]I just have to go with my own personal experience, I just never see anything remotely nice walking the beat. If there is, then my timing has been bad. Sometimes I'll see one at a distance that looks ok but upon closer inspection they look older, worn and just not worth my time. Economics is King. There is a reason these girls price themselves at 500 baht when other girls in Pattaya are getting 1000 and up. They are not dumb, they just know where they stand on the Desirable Pyramid, at the bottom.[/QUOTE]There used to be nice ones "sprinkled" throughout the 3 kilometer stretch. In the last year or so the quality has dropped considerably. The time and effort required to find these "diamonds in the rough" is barely worth it, unless you enjoy spending most of your time in Pattaya and enjoy the city and beach. The cuter ones tend to aim high like 600-700b also.
The reason you don't see many of the young cute ones is because the supply is so low and if they are there they have already been grabbed. You're not the only one looking for the cute ones! Competition for good pussy (sexy 18-20yo) in Pattaya during the high season is fierce.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1101190]When comparing the gogo scene in BKK vs. Pattaya the prices don't vary all that much. In fact, I find that most of the BKK gogo girls go for cheaper than their counterparts in Pattaya.
The gogo scene in Pattaya is probably the worst deal in all of Pattaya. The freelance / beer bar scene is infinitely better in Pattaya, however. [/QUOTE]Agreed. The gogo scene in Pattaya is only good for entertainment. Best not to do much barfining there unless you get lucky and find a girl who wants you. The disco freelance scene, however, is great, much better than Bangkok. And even some of the Soi 6 girls will give you a great time compared to the gogo girls.
In Bangkok the gogo girls are often pretty good and not too expensive, aside from a few overly popular places like Baccara, which are more like Pattaya in that they're only good for looking, not touching.
[QUOTE=Goatboy55;1101269]SOL is the only reason to go to PP these days I think. Although I want to try out Mike's bar too one day. Any dissenting views or was this just a bad day at the office for PP?[/QUOTE]Goatboy,
You are correct about Patpong. It has lost its No. 1 spot some years ago,
I have stayed in the Suriwong Road, area, very near Patpong, for probably 20 years or so and on each of my visits it seems to have got worse!
A few examples.
When I first started to travel to BKK there were, at least. 15 or 20 'Naughty Upstairs Bars. ' Now there is just ONE that is not a rip of!
Anyone remember Touch Bar (Formerly Cleopatra) next to the Thai Boxing on the South side of Patpong 1 near Suriwong Road End. I think that it was the first 'upstairs bar' that I visited on my very first trip to BKK many years ago. Although quite small it was one of my favorites. I must admit I shed a tear or two when it closed. I think that the old manager still works in Patpong 1 at Pussy Galore.
Tip Top was then open 24/7 and you could find many dancers, who had earned good money that night, eating, with friends, after the bars closed. Rather good for a late night pick up if you had not met anyone earlier who 'Tickled your Fancy. ' And, without any bar fine or lady drinks!
During the afternoon KFC at the Suriwong Road end was great for freelancers. There always seemed to be one or two attractive young girls, with a few hours to spare looking for company. I have fond memories of one deaf and dumb girl I found there. We communicated in sign language and by using a notebook and after half an hour or so agreed that we 'might be more comfortable' watching TV at my nearby hotel. She was rather shy to start with and wanted me to turn of all the lights in my room until I explained to her that if it was completely dark we would 'not be able to talk! '
Also, in those days, many of the dancers at the bars seemed to arrive for work very early and could often be found hanging around waiting for 'their bar' to open. Quite easy to fix up something with them for then or later (and see them in the light!)
Thai Room, on Patpong 2 always offered some good choices of food (and, I think, was also open 24/7.) Although it is still open it is now just a shadow of it's former self.
Oh. The good old days! Perhaps it's time for an 'old farrang' to move to pastures new but I still have a certain affection for the area.
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1101494]Goatboy,
You are correct about Patpong. It has lost its No. 1 spot some years ago,
I have stayed in the Suriwong Road, area, very near Patpong, for probably 20 years or so and on each of my visits it seems to have got worse!
A few examples.
When I first started to travel to BKK there were, at least. 15 or 20 'Naughty Upstairs Bars. ' Now there is just ONE that is not a rip of!
Oh. The good old days! Perhaps it's time for an 'old farrang' to move to pastures new but I still have a certain affection for the area.
Hotman. [/QUOTE]Very nice nostalgic post. It seems that commercialism has hit Patpong. I've seen another reference to the one and only one non-rip-off upstairs Bar. Can you or someone else please share with us the name of this Bar?
Thanks in advance.
Life
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1100642]Unless you are Arab, African or Indian, don't stay at this hotel! I don't want to sound Racist but as a White man, you will not be very welcome there.
I have been there many times and always got "looks" from these guys which I don't care, but it could scare a few people.
There are way Better hotels than the Grace. Solo hotel on Soi 2 for example. 5mn walk to Annies and they have a tuk tuk (free) that takes you to Sukhumvit[/QUOTE]I would recommend a hotel but it's too far from Annies.
[QUOTE=Distantpeak;1100895]I have to laugh at you guys. It's still cheap at twice the price. Go back home and see what you get for the same price. I don't blame the girls for wanting as much as they can. Why not? It's an awful job and we are lucky the economic and cultural situation has produced our little Disneyland. Rant over.[/QUOTE]The problem is that it's irrelevant how much things cost back home. Once the prices go up because of people feeling lucky to pay less than in their own country, these prices, with time, just might approach what is paid back home. And we'll be facing the Thai version of a hardcore con artist that the West is known for. I guess the men in each country get what they deserve. Higher prices in LOS bring inferior service and bad attitude. Everything should be in proportion. In a country where one is lucky to make 10K baht / month 2K+ for LT in BKK is a lot of cash.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1101387]Agreed. The gogo scene in Pattaya is only good for entertainment. Best not to do much barfining there unless you get lucky and find a girl who wants you. The disco freelance scene, however, is great, much better than Bangkok. And even some of the Soi 6 girls will give you a great time compared to the gogo girls.
In Bangkok the gogo girls are often pretty good and not too expensive, aside from a few overly popular places like Baccara, which are more like Pattaya in that they're only good for looking, not touching. [/QUOTE]I have to agree on freelancers in BKK. Did the Q-Bar then Climax scene last night. Was not easy.
I was expecting a lot higher talent in Q-Bar. 700 baht entrance so you get 2 drinks though so not too bad. Really nothing stunning in there. Solid 8s but nothing jumped out at me. I talked to a hot one with a bunch of girls and she seemed like she was stringing me along and not ready to go to my hotel right away. I bailed and went to Climax.
Climax is so frigging dark. Again a few hot ones but overall take it or leave it. I had a hot one play games again with me and would not commit. Ouch. Is it me? LOL.
Finally got a newbie to the business on the way out. Very inexperiened which is good sometimes. Worked out well but she spoke zero English so ST it was.
Thinking of Spasso tonight but why should I torture myself again. Baccara had the hottest girls last night. Japanese all over the place in there. I can see how it could be very hit or miss on performance with the Baccara girls.
Hi.
There are 3 older women in their fifties at Nana Hotel and carparking.
I have seen them there for many years, and I've never seen them with a "customer"
Does anyone know more about them?
BL
[QUOTE]Even some of the Soi 6 girls will give you a great time compared to the go-go girls.[/QUOTE]Recently spent a week in Pattaya and was pleasantly surprised by the Soi 6 scene. I am very picky when it comes to looks, but every time I visited Soi 6 I saw three or four girls who to my eye were just as hot as the girls dancing in the go-go bars. The bars on the north side of Soi 6 seemed to have a better selection. (Too many lady boys at the bars across the street.) And I had better luck near Second Road than at the bars closer to the beach.
I was also impressed by the quality of the service. I was expecting a rushed session with a distracted girl in a depressing room a la the Zone Norte in Tijuana. Boy, was I wrong. The girls were only too happy to start by sitting with me in the bar. There was no pressure to buy a lady drink, but there was plenty of snuggling, kissing and fondling. Hanging out in a cool dark bar in the middle of the afternoon, sipping my favorite beverage while a young hottie has her hand jammed in between my legs was very nice indeed. It was totally hot to know that if I chose we'd be upstairs in five minutes.
Speaking of upstairs, I was again pleasantly surprised. The rooms weren't lavish, but they were clean and comfortable with good air conditioning. Showering together with the girl was always a nice way to start, and once we proceeded to the main event I was not disappointed. The girls I went with were eager to please and accommodated my (admittedly pedestrian) desires. I particularly remember one fresh-faced sweetie at the Bar Mod who finished our session with a superb bareback blowjob to completion. After swallowing without complaint, we cuddled for a few minutes listening to the sounds of the street. After a quick second shower I headed out with a spring in my step.
The girls were always happy with 700 baht and they didn't badger me for a tip. Add in 300 for the bar and 50 for my drink and for about USD $35 I got to spend nearly an hour with a hottie who would be absolutely, totally, without question out of my league in my hometown. THAT, my friends, represents value for money.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Goatboy55;1101269]SOL is the only reason to go to PP these days I think. Although I want to try out Mike's bar too one day. Any dissenting views or was this just a bad day at the office for PP?[/QUOTE]Not a complete dissent, but there is more to Patpong than you report. I spent considerable time at SuperStar over the summer and found it acceptable. The music is classic rock circa 70's and 80's (so you can flashback to what it was like when you were in college as you pick-up on college-age cuties!)
The pressure to barfine is a lot less than what you find in Nana, though you will get worked a little. There is a service girl there named "Lek" who doesn't go with customers, but will keep the girls away from you, translate English-Thai when needed (moderate skill) and is generally a pleasant person.
The girls range from 5's to 9's. Aged 18-30. A few immediately appearant post-op LBs.
Earlier is better, late-night can have limited options (which is true for all of Patpong. Go before 10pm).
As for the rest of Patpong, I found the bars packed with girls early in the night, something for everyone. Later it thins out, so someone is getting laid.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1101132]Can anyone suggest a decent, clean and reasonably priced ST roon around the Grace Hotel area? I want to give one of those 'stans a whirl but don't really to bring her back to my hotel.
Sorry in advance if this is a repetitive question but I'm not that familar with the area. [/QUOTE]If no one else has already stated this. The girls know where to go. You don't need to know.
However, there are three in the immediate area. One near Suk, one a bit down deeper into Suk (closer to Ploenchit) and one on a side-soi.
Pick your lady, let her pick the short-time hotel.
That said, the Grace is monger heaven for Muslims, no one will bat an eye. You could bring in a flock of bargirls, mixed with Nigerians and a few lady-boys and no one would say a thing.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1100813]Shark was packed as usual. -- Wanted 2, 000 baht for short time[/QUOTE]Yup, that's the going rate. However, you don't have to get the stretch mark baby momma.
I suggest #14 (I never remember names). Twenty-years-old, naturally wet, GGG, and with a smoking body. Very nice mew and actually has some junk in the trunk, sans cellulite.
I'm no longer in BKK, so no fear in sharing a good find.
[QUOTE=Bkk Rookie;1101888].....naturally wet, GGG, and with a smoking body.....[/QUOTE]Any photos?
What does GGG mean?
[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me; 1101890]Any photos?
What does GGG mean? [/QUOTE]Was going to ask the same thing. GGG? Not familiar with that term
I had a long layover in BKK and I thought I would make the most of it. I had planned on arriving Saturday afternoon, hit a massage Parlor, then go clubbing for a freelancer later and then top it off with a massage visit Sunday morning / afternoon.
My first stop was at Teen Love Massage. I was not impressed by the selection there and I was on my way to Tulip. On my way I passed Snow White, so I thought I would give it a look. Selection was not very good here either, but one girl was very cute and I selected her. Her name was View. 20 years old, been working at SW for only 2 months. Standard routine as posted here many times. BBBJ was good, creamed her with a facial, then capped for some doggy. I then want to change positions and have her ride me. As I pulled out and layed down I noticed she was bleeding. Damn she was on her period. This totally turned me off and she noticed I was pissed. She offered her arse if I would like. She cleaned me up in the shower and then proceeded with a long BBBJ again. I capped, lubed with KY and then entered slowly. Damn she had the tightest ass I've ever had. Rode that for about 15 minutes, but I didn't want to waste any more bullets, so I held of on cumming again.
Total damage: 1900.
Would I repeat: Yes, but not with period.
Freelancers:
Most the bars / clubs were closed due to the elections. This put a damper on my nighttime plans. I cruised lower Sukhumvit. Damn there is alot of ladyboys in this area and some of them are just nasty ass looking. I did have my eye on one young 18 year old, but before I could pull the trigger, a guy grabed her hand and said 2500 and off they went. Pricing was generally quoted at 1500 ST with some of the less attractive asking 1000. I ended up just going home alone and resting.
Sunday: Tulip.
Took the BTS up to Thong Lo. Tulip is looked off of Exit 4. Mamasen showed me the book and only about half were available. I selected Cherry. 24 years old cuty. Very nice small perky breasts. First thing I noticed when getting in the room was how small and nasty it was compaired to Snow White. The showers at Tulip really need to be gutted and re-done.
Cherry ended up being a good choice. BBBJ with facial. Then she rode me for a long time. A little too much grinding for me. Switched condoms and lubed up with KY for some anal action. Her arse was very loose. After tapping it for about 15 minutes I asked her to clean me off and give me a good HJ with another facial with she gladly did with a smile.
Total Damage: 1900 + 300 tip.
Stopped by Livingstone's Lodge to check it out today. Looks like a good place to stay. I'll check it out on my next trip.
Now I'm off to the airport.
Fitz
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1101930]Was going to ask the same thing. GGG? Not familiar with that term[/QUOTE]It's from Dan Savage, an American sex-advice columnist. It stands for "Good, Giving and Game," which means she seemingly will try most anything with no complaints.
One small exception, she's not much for deep-throat kissing, but she can be very passionate and sensual with slight french kissing.
She comes easily, but doesn't complain when you keep doing whatever you're doing.
Believe it or not but this was Soi Cowboys Saturday evening around 8 PM.
Nearly everything was closed, thanks to the ruling that bars / pubs etc. Are forbidden to serve their customers alcohol.
Never had seen this, being a frequent visitor for years.
I could imagine that this was the view in April / May when Bangkok was hit by the confrontation between Red shirts and the military (I wasn't there in that timeframe).
Anyhow still some pretty girls there.
One was willing to go to my hotel.
A large / tall girl (app. 5ft7) , around 60 kg. (but not fat) and had a funny time.
Upfront I discussed that I wanted to take pictures. Sorry she asked not to use the face pics and as gentlemen.
1. 500 THB. 150 THB taxi fee and. No bar fine; thanks to the Thai government&61514; .
[QUOTE=Somewhere15; 1102019]Believe it or not but this was Soi Cowboys Saturday evening around 8 PM.
Nearly everything was closed, thanks to the ruling that bars / pubs etc. Are forbidden to serve their customers alcohol.
Never had seen this, being a frequent visitor for years.
I could imagine that this was the view in April / May when Bangkok was hit by the confrontation between Red shirts and the military (I wasn't there in that timeframe).
Anyhow still some pretty girls there.
One was willing to go to my hotel.
A large / tall girl (app. 5ft7) , around 60 kg. (but not fat) and had a funny time.
Upfront I discussed that I wanted to take pictures. Sorry she asked not to use the face pics and as gentlemen.
1. 500 THB. 150 THB taxi fee and. No bar fine; thanks to the Thai government&61514; . [/QUOTE]As the system not allows for more than 10 pics per post here the rest.
[QUOTE=Steve 99; 1101724]I have to agree on freelancers in BKK. Did the Q-Bar then Climax scene last night. Was not easy.
I was expecting a lot higher talent in Q-Bar. 700 baht entrance so you get 2 drinks though so not too bad. Really nothing stunning in there. Solid 8s but nothing jumped out at me. I talked to a hot one with a bunch of girls and she seemed like she was stringing me along and not ready to go to my hotel right away. I bailed and went to Climax.
Climax is so frigging dark. Again a few hot ones but overall take it or leave it. I had a hot one play games again with me and would not commit. Ouch. Is it me? LOL.
Finally got a newbie to the business on the way out. Very inexperiened which is good sometimes. Worked out well but she spoke zero English so ST it was.
Thinking of Spasso tonight but why should I torture myself again. Baccara had the hottest girls last night. Japanese all over the place in there. I can see how it could be very hit or miss on performance with the Baccara girls. [/QUOTE]I've been to Climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. Also been to Nana Liquid, Bangkok Beat, and Thermae and had no luck. It's just not that great of a scene in Bangkok for some reason. With all the girls in Bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
When you're in Bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places.
[QUOTE=BKK Rookie; 1089127]Remember this: 543. An easy sequence, no? Look at the I'd, subtract 543 from the birth year and what's left is the Western birth year.
GL / HF[/QUOTE]What is the legal age in Thailand?
If it is 21, than any number greater than 543+21= 564 is good. Right?
I've been in BKK for the past 6 weeks and will be in LOS till April. I've been using a mix of gogos, massages and dating sites with good success. Pulled a nice non pro from a dating site but I'm getting tired of her and silly games like she needs to get drunk ti show any emotions. I don't have time for that. I've also had a good time at climax and got a fine freebie there from a solid 8 little spinner. As well as a couple of #s from there. These are girls that are not asking for any money other than a good time. Last night mist everything was closed. Nana was a ghost town. A few bars / gogos were open but no alcohol.
Went to climax, closed as well, then went to bossy, packed, booze was on the menu but didn't get a good vibe from the girls there. There quite a few ruskies and one even wanted to go with me at the end if the night but got the feeling she would be a ripp off so passed. On my way to my hotel saw a cutie with big boobs so took her LT for 1k. She was ok, nothing to write home about.
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? Btw, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand
of condoms gents?
I will be in BKK for the next few months and would like to get together with some guys from her ti go hunting together but also share stories, experiences and go clubbing together. So anyone in town, hit me up by pm or by posting it here.
Cheers.
I live in BKK and know the scene here pretty well. Happy to meet up for a prowl.
[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1102079]I've been in BKK for the past 6 weeks and will be in LOS till April. I've been using a mix of gogos, massages and dating sites with good success. Pulled a nice non pro from a dating site but I'm getting tired of her and silly games like she needs to get drunk ti show any emotions. I don't have time for that. I've also had a good time at climax and got a fine freebie there from a solid 8 little spinner. As well as a couple of #s from there. These are girls that are not asking for any money other than a good time. Last night mist everything was closed. Nana was a ghost town. A few bars / gogos were open but no alcohol.
Went to climax, closed as well, then went to bossy, packed, booze was on the menu but didn't get a good vibe from the girls there. There quite a few ruskies and one even wanted to go with me at the end if the night but got the feeling she would be a ripp off so passed. On my way to my hotel saw a cutie with big boobs so took her LT for 1k. She was ok, nothing to write home about.
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? BTW, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand
Of condoms gents?
I will be in BKK for the next few months and would like to get together with some guys from her ti go hunting together but also share stories, experiences and go clubbing together. So anyone in town, hit me up by pm or by posting it here.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1102079]I've been in BKK for the past 6 weeks and will be in LOS till April. I've been using a mix of gogos, massages and dating sites with good success. Pulled a nice non pro from a dating site but I'm getting tired of her and silly games like she needs to get drunk ti show any emotions. I don't have time for that. I've also had a good time at climax and got a fine freebie there from a solid 8 little spinner. As well as a couple of #s from there. These are girls that are not asking for any money other than a good time. Last night mist everything was closed. Nana was a ghost town. A few bars / gogos were open but no alcohol.
Went to climax, closed as well, then went to bossy, packed, booze was on the menu but didn't get a good vibe from the girls there. There quite a few ruskies and one even wanted to go with me at the end if the night but got the feeling she would be a ripp off so passed. On my way to my hotel saw a cutie with big boobs so took her LT for 1k. She was ok, nothing to write home about.
However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? BTW, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand
Of condoms gents?
I will be in BKK for the next few months and would like to get together with some guys from her ti go hunting together but also share stories, experiences and go clubbing together. So anyone in town, hit me up by pm or by posting it here.
Cheers. [/QUOTE]Hi,
I'm Tony from Italy an I'll be in BKK from 10th jan up to 24th. We can meet there. I'm not able to send you PM but you can write me on PM or try to give us a meeting point. I'll be in Admiral Premiere soi 23 Sukhumvit.
Went to Shock 39 Disco on Sat night as beneath Ambassador closed for elections in Wattana district.
Can't say I was impressed at all.
Very packed out. Air con not coping at all as was very smoky. Eyes stinging and hard to breath and then there was the BO of a motley crew of patrons. A few nice looking Thai girls gyrating and doing there stuff and trying hard not to get groped by the ugly foreigners with no manners.
The DJ was a cool dude (black man) but a total idiot in my veiw, the way he tried to mix multiple songs together hearing no more than 30 seconds of any decent song with a musical nature. A lot of Hip Hop thump. There a couple of snippets from Michael Jackson and Lady Gaga but very brief.
Of course I am from the wrong generation.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1102202]Went to Shock 39 Disco on Sat night as beneath Ambassador closed for elections in Wattana district.
[/QUOTE]Hey I was there too. I missed you. LOL.
It was the perfect night to hit that place. I like the setup in the place. At least you can see in the place. Climax is so friggin dark. Yeah I am way passed disco age too.
All the groups of spasso, q bar, supper free lancers were there. They had no other place to go. I did finally see some solid talent. Lot guys there so it was tough to get to talk to the hot ones. One solid 9 said she just got there and wasnt ready to leave. The hot ones just string guys along or wait for the perfect guy. Who knows.
I wonder how that place would be when everything else is closed? Are there free lancers in there all the time? You don't read about the place here on ISG so maybe its just a regular bar.
I got a hot one with a nice fake rack. Don't see them too often. She was a drama queen but made the night interesting. I won't go into the details. Its a game they play. You know they arent really leaving when they threaten to. It all about the money.
[QUOTE=Tiradentes; 1102064]What is the legal age in Thailand?
If it is 21, than any number greater than 543+21= 564 is good. Right? [/QUOTE]No! The number 564 is meaningless. Do not attempt the subtraction of 543 from the Thai calendar date, and then try to figure out how old she is. Alcohol and mathematics seldom mix well.
The number to remember is 2535. Write it down! If your lady has a birthday SMALLER THAN 2535 she is "of age". For example, birth year = 2532 = birthyear 1990 in the western calendar = 20 years old)
[QUOTE=Lifeingr; 1101626]Very nice nostalgic post. It seems that commercialism has hit Patpong. I've seen another reference to the one and only one non-rip-off upstairs Bar. Can you or someone else please share with us the name of this Bar?
Thanks in advance.
Life[/QUOTE]Hi Life,
I'm terrible at remembering names (for both bars and girls) but if you are in Patpong 1 and find Tip Top restaurant than the only non rip off 'upstairs, naughty bar' that I now know of is the one immediately to the left and upstairs.
Drinks as price list (Beer around 100 Baht and lady drinks around 110 Baht.) and NO cover charge.
I think that the name may be Queen's Castle I.
Most of the other 'upstairs naughty bars' in Patpong area are either a complete rip off with final bills of over 1000 Baht not unknown or semi rip off with charges of 300 Baht for a beer!
NOTE FOR NEWBEE's. If prices of drinks are not shown outside then DON'T GO IN!
It's not like the old days!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1102304]Hi Life,
I'm terrible at remembering names (for both bars and girls) but if you are in Patpong 1 and find Tip Top restaurant than the only non rip off 'upstairs, naughty bar' that I now know of is the one immediately to the left and upstairs.
Drinks as price list (Beer around 100 Baht and lady drinks around 110 Baht.) and NO cover charge.
I think that the name may be Queen's Castle I.
Most of the other 'upstairs naughty bars' in Patpong area are either a complete rip off with final bills of over 1000 Baht not unknown or semi rip off with charges of 300 Baht for a beer!
NOTE FOR NEWBEE's. If prices of drinks are not shown outside then DON'T GO IN!
It's not like the old days!
Enjoy,
Hotman. [/QUOTE]
Thanks Hotman, I have the same problem with names; description is good so next time that I'll be in Patpong I'll try to visit the place and I'll report back.
Life
Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?
The ladies (who were older and not as hot as I would usually pick) seemed not to be 'into it' at all (not surprising, but at least most working ladies over here pretend fairly well). They did not seem keen in doing the lady-lady play (which is a bit craap, as that is ostensibly why the first pick chooses the second). They just didn't seem to have ANY of the good qualities that I've come to enjoy a lot from Thai WLs. I now wish I had picked up a THB2000 LT young cutie that are so easy to get from Soi Nana and Cowboy, and saved myself 1600, plus have someone else to play with for the rest of the night and tomorrow morning (and possibly into the arvo depending on the girl).
The people who have had a good time there, was it just the experience of two girls plus anal that did it? Even with these bonuses, it was disappointing (I've had both experiences before, though a lot more fun). However, I still think the idea of the venue is fantastic on paper (no holes barred fun (didn't mean that pun at first) , with a list of fantasies catered for, and set price).
I'll update with a blow-by-blow of the (mediocre) experience when I have time.
[QUOTE=TimTimGuy; 1102278]No! The number 564 is meaningless. Do not attempt the subtraction of 543 from the Thai calendar date, and then try to figure out how old she is. Alcohol and mathematics seldom mix well.
The number to remember is 2535. Write it down! If your lady has a birthday SMALLER THAN 2535 she is "of age". For example, birth year = 2532 = birthyear 1990 in the western calendar = 20 years old) [/QUOTE]Just remember to change the number after Songkran! LOL
[QUOTE=Tiradentes; 1102064]What is the legal age in Thailand?
If it is 21, than any number greater than 543+21= 564 is good. Right? [/QUOTE]
LEGAL is 18 (you CAN use 21 if you wish but the official number is 18)
Sheesh guy. It's 2553 Thai calendar until 1/1/2011 (then it's 2554). Subtract 19 (just to be SAFE) = 2534 on the year of birth.
Sorry to tell someone who thinks the Thai year changes at songkran. IT DOESN'T. It changes at NEW YEARS the same as the "western" calendars. The BUDDHIST year is "western year + 543" - 2553. Too bad you don't speak Thai - "AH-YOU TAO RAI" works for me (age how many) Any response less than "SIP-BAT" is jailbait. <smirk>
[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1102079]However one recurring problem I'm having is condoms breaking a few times. But last night, or rather this morning, thing got worst: the tip of the condom broke and when I came it went straight inside the girl. I only realized it after pulling out. I am quite worried about that. Has this happened to anyone here? Is this a frequent ocurrence? BTW, Which is the most resistant and reliable brand of condoms gents?
[/QUOTE]I used to break through a lot with asian women. Smaller women often means more friction, and more friction means a higher chance of pushing through the rubber.
Two important things. Presuming you're using farang condoms, then the problem could be something as simple as too much friction. With condoms you really need to keep a lubricant handy, maybe something flavoured if you want, but she'll appreciate it and you'll have far less friction. Slippery is fun!
Secondly, I really *really* like Sagami. 02 condoms. They're a bit tougher as they're polyurethane and they're 1/3rd the thickness of a latex condom. Plus they really stay on!
[url]http://www.002.com.au/[/url]
I lose a lot of feeling with the latex condom but with the Sagami it's really close to not wearing anything, but a hell of a lot safer. Don't think they're available in LOS, so I tend to come with 3-4 boxes for each vacation.
[QUOTE=Woofiee; 1102476]Secondly, I really *really* like Sagami. 02 condoms. They're a bit tougher as they're polyurethane and they're 1/3rd the thickness of a latex condom. Plus they really stay on!
[url]http://www.002.com.au/[/url]
I lose a lot of feeling with the latex condom but with the Sagami it's really close to not wearing anything, but a hell of a lot safer. Don't think they're available in LOS, so I tend to come with 3-4 boxes for each vacation. [/QUOTE]Someone else mentioned these on another thread so I was going to give it a try. But I haven't seen them in UK and I thought / was hoping I can find them in LOS, anyone knows for sure.
Yesterday's afternoon pickup from Guillivers.
We played some rounds of pool and after that I invited her to my hotel room what she accepted.
On forehand we discussed the fee: 1. 500 THB short time or 2. 500 THB long time.
During the pool rounds she lost many times. In the hotel room she won.
Shy, for that reason I only can publish these two pictures.
Concerning Sagami. 02 condoms: I read the recommendations here in the forum and I want to try them out, but they are real expensive (at least in the USA). Amazon.Com partner price was $26 for 14 condoms, while at the same time Costco sells a box of 30 Trojan Ecstasy latex condoms for $14. That makes it $1.86 per Sagami vs. $0.53 per Trojan. I don't know, unless I can pick them up in HKG, Manila or BKK, I think I will stay with the Trojans.
Everything in life is a trade off. If you want real feeling and are willing to accept the risks then go bareback. If you can't tolerate any risk whatsoever then it is either monogamy or celibacy.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1102554]Concerning Sagami. 02 condoms: I read the recommendations here in the forum and I want to try them out, but they are real expensive (at least in the USA). Amazon. Com partner price was $26 for 14 condoms, while at the same time Costco sells a box of 30 Trojan Ecstasy latex condoms for $14. That makes it $1. 86 per Sagami vs. $0. 53 per Trojan. I don't know, unless I can pick them up in HKG, Manila or BKK, I think I will stay with the Trojans.
Everything in life is a trade off. If you want real feeling and are willing to accept the risks then go bareback. If you can't tolerate any risk whatsoever then it is either monogamy or celibacy. [/QUOTE]
Nattay Bumpo,
If you expect to find them in HKG, Manila, BKK, although you might get lucky, you are wasting your time but if you have a bunch knock yourself out. Oherwise you be better like you said to buy Costco. On another note you will be lucky to find Trojan in BKK. Regardless if I'm wrong I doubt you will find prices for these items be cheaper than what you pay in the U.S.
IMHO, there is no Globol economy in Thailand unless you are buying a fake copy. So ask yourself if you want a fake condom? I like to walk around and compare prices at times and I see products like Nike, being sold 2 times the prices I see at home. Just the other day I saw a pair of Nikes being sold at 5,000 baht, this same shoe I saw in February on sale in Sportmart for $69.95. A bottle of Tire shine sells at Kragens for $4.99 was being sold at Big C, for 1199 Baht, last month there was a Lexus 270, on the show floor at Central Festival in Pattaya listed at just under 4,000,000 baht.
In the end, when it comes to time and money get it at home and save your time mongering.
LBM
Okay, so 2 girls have made my "to do" list as of late. In Baccara, #53. She's the stunner who dances topless upstairs. Big eyes, big fake tits. Probably been there for at least a year if not longer. In Dollhouse, it's #8 who's got my eye (or one-eye). She dances downstairs. Big natural titties and braces. Her name is Tookta.
Can anyone comment on the service of these lovely lasses?
On another note, went into Sheba's the other night and it appears the skank shift was on all night. Not a looker among them! After living here for 4 years now, Shark, Baccara, Dollhouse, and Tilac are the only bars on Cowboy that I frequent. Can't say I'm a fan of any of the others.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo; 1102401]Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?[/quote]Yeah, the last time I was in Bangkok I went to Eden one afternoon but was seriously disappointed with the talent available. I had a few good experiences going back a few years. But the girls I had seen then are long gone. Think one of the them was Wah. Great girl. The new owner didn't seem to be too patient with my questions about the girls available. He called a lineup and when I didn't see much I liked he told me it was late and the best ones were already taken and to try again another time. So I went back the next day earlier when they open up for business but it was the same unimpressive lineup. So had a drink and left. I'm sure I'll be back to try in the future and see if they have some turnover. I know it is a place to go for the 3some experience and not the lookers so you have to keep that in mind. But look forward to your FR nonetheless. If anyone has any good ladies to recommend there let me know.
AF
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo; 1102401]Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?
The ladies (who were older and not as hot as I would usually pick) seemed not to be 'into it' at all (not surprising, but at least most working ladies over here pretend fairly well). They did not seem keen in doing the lady-lady play (which is a bit craap, as that is ostensibly why the first pick chooses the second). They just didn't seem to have ANY of the good qualities that I've come to enjoy a lot from Thai WLs. I now wish I had picked up a THB2000 LT young cutie that are so easy to get from Soi Nana and Cowboy, and saved myself 1600, plus have someone else to play with for the rest of the night and tomorrow morning (and possibly into the arvo depending on the girl).
The people who have had a good time there, was it just the experience of two girls plus anal that did it? Even with these bonuses, it was disappointing (I've had both experiences before, though a lot more fun). However, I still think the idea of the venue is fantastic on paper (no holes barred fun (didn't mean that pun at first) , with a list of fantasies catered for, and set price).
I'll update with a blow-by-blow of the (mediocre) experience when I have time. [/QUOTE]I had the same (bad) experience than you, twice in 3 visits. There will not be a fourth.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1102031]I've been to Climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. Also been to Nana Liquid, Bangkok Beat, and Thermae and had no luck. It's just not that great of a scene in Bangkok for some reason. With all the girls in Bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
When you're in Bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places. [/QUOTE]I don't understand. Do you mean you could not approach the girls or they werent your taste? These places are packed with FLs. As soon as I get there they look at me, I just need to stay near them and they often do the approach (I. E. Cheers!). I mean it's not especially me, it's obviously any available farang there (Bangkok Beat, Climax, Nana). Finding a girl up to your taste if you like young girls is another story.
In Q Bar it can be different. It is more a place for partying and can have a high share of regular girls.
In Thermae, ALL girls are FLs. However, the pretty girls are exclusively targeting Japanese ATMs and will never even look at a white guy. Some girls also go with farangs but they are not so pretty.
Not all the places are in the same category
[quote=bkk rookie;1101886]not a complete dissent, but there is more to patpong than you report. i spent considerable time at superstar over the summer and found it acceptable. the music is classic rock circa 70's and 80's (so you can flashback to what it was like when you were in college as you pick-up on college-age cuties!) the pressure to barfine is a lot less than what you find in nana, though you will get worked a little -- [/quote]patpong is always the "third bride's maid" for bangkok mongers these days.
as i live close to patpong, it is an easy for me to go there and not invest a lot of time or money if it appears dead. i also know a few of the women who work there (!) , so i am somewhat privy to the "grapevine." lately, at times, granted, it has been slow, but with the onset of high season there is new, young talent for the experienced monger. touristy, sleazy, young old, dirty, flash; patpong has it all these days.
last night i took a walk with my camera at about midnight and saw a few cuties out and about. it's not an easy,"target rich" area like sc or nana, but there is definitely "something for anyone" there. of course, there are also obnoxious touts. 190cm ladyboys, bandito taxi drivers, nepalese peanut salesmen, crazy [i]farang[/i]. but this this is bangkok, right, not disney world?
[quote]earlier is better, late-night can have limited options (which is true for all of patpong. go before 10pm). as for the rest of patpong, i found the bars packed with girls early in the night, something for everyone. later it thins out, so someone is getting laid.[/quote]i agree, with the exception of late night at the twilo club. there are a lot of pretty women who go there to dance and look for their last prince charming for the evening. if nothing else, it's a good place to sweat off some alcohol before heading back home.
you can also pick up a bag of groceries at foodland as it is open 24/7, 366 days a year!
Fon Tok, those are some really good pics of the night time scene of BKK that bring back fond memories. Always take a lot of pics of girls as a little keep sake from my trips, but haven't given it a try to take pics of the venues since I thought that was a way to end up being the victim of a mob assault by the bouncers. Maybe I am mistaken?
[quote=fon tok; 1102714]patpong is always the "third bride's maid" for bangkok mongers these days.
as i live close to patpong, it is an easy for me to go there and not invest a lot of time or money if it appears dead. i also know a few of the women who work there (!) , so i am somewhat privy to the "grapevine." lately, at times, granted, it has been slow, but with the onset of high season there is new, young talent for the experienced monger. touristy, sleazy, young old, dirty, flash; patpong has it all these days. [/quote]my first trip to los was in '87. back then patpong was the place to go. i had a many good times there and fondly recall a bar called queens castle 1 where the girls were very attractive, the bar played the rolling stones, and i was always treated well by the ladies i barfined. and oh yeah; 43bt to the dollar thereabouts. the last time i stopped by was back in '94 and the place was still pretty hot. but after '94, i moved over to sukhumvit and never stopped back. i hear the bar has fallen on hard times nowadays and the quality of girls has sunk pretty low. i would appreciate any updates on this, ft.
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun;1102748]Fon Tok, those are some really good pics of the night time scene of BKK that bring back fond memories. Always take a lot of pics of girls as a little keep sake from my trips, but haven't given it a try to take pics of the venues since I thought that was a way to end up being the victim of a mob assault by the bouncers. Maybe I am mistaken?[/QUOTE]Cannot.
Some of the bouncers are even a little touchy about photos on the [i]outside! [/i]
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo; 1102401]Well, I just had the worst sex I've had in Bangkok at Eden Club. I'm wondering if I just chose a dud, who in turn chose another dud?
The ladies (who were older and not as hot as I would usually pick) seemed not to be 'into it' at all (not surprising, but at least most working ladies over here pretend fairly well). They did not seem keen in doing the lady-lady play (which is a bit craap, as that is ostensibly why the first pick chooses the second). They just didn't seem to have ANY of the good qualities that I've come to enjoy a lot from Thai WLs. [/QUOTE]Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.
[quote=evianist; 1102031]i've been to climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. also been to nana liquid, bangkok beat, and thermae and had no luck. it's just not that great of a scene in bangkok for some reason. with all the girls in bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
when you're in bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places. [/quote]i totally have to disagree. i love bangkok beat. that's my #1 place. i am at the point that i feel almost regret when i don't pop down there for a peek, before playing elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Dinghy;1102472]LEGAL is 18 (you CAN use 21 if you wish but the official number is 18)...[/QUOTE]Actually, there is no LEGAL age in Thailand for our hobby, as prostitution is ILLEGAL in the Land of (vertical) Smiles. The legal age of consent is 15 here, but that's when no (financial) gratification is given in exchange of sexual services, but if a Thai girl is under 20, she needs to obtain first her parents' written consent in order to marry someone legally.
If you are a foreigner, you could theoretically get into troubles if you are caught with any prostitute, regardless of her age, but practically, the law is not strictly enforced and you should be safe if your provider is over 18 year old, but it's certainly not the same story if she's younger.
The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act clearly states what are the various penalties under the Thai Law when minors under 18, between 15 and 18, and under 15 are involved (of course, younger is the minor, harsher is the penalty).
[url]http://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/WEBTEXT/46403/65063/E96THA01.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1102556]Nattay Bumpo,
If you expect to find them in HKG, Manila, BKK, although you might get lucky, you are wasting your time but if you have a bunch knock yourself out. Oherwise you be better like you said to buy Costco. On another note you will be lucky to find Trojan in BKK. Regardless if I'm wrong I doubt you will find prices for these items be cheaper than what you pay in the U. S.
LBM[/QUOTE]I'm visiting LOS in very near future. Where can I buy these Sagami original condoms in BKK?
Cheers.
AK
originally posted by evianist
i've been to climax about 5 times but only had any luck once. also been to nana liquid, bangkok beat, and thermae and had no luck. it's just not that great of a scene in bangkok for some reason. with all the girls in bangkok working legitimate but low paying jobs, as well as the university girls, you'd think the freelance scene would be wonderful, but for some reason it's just not.
when you're in bangkok, stick to gogos and massage places.
[quote=red square;1102871]i totally have to disagree. i love bangkok beat. that's my #1 place. i am at the point that i feel almost regret when i don't pop down there for a peek, before playing elsewhere.[/quote]me too. very good music, funny girls (both visitors and staff) and a relaxed atmosphere. much different than climax, bossy and shock and. free entrance on the lower suk part.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1102909]the Land of (vertical) Smiles. [/QUOTE]Priceless. Made me spill my drink
It was my last night in Bangkok, so I made a mental note not to get drunk. Missing the early morning flight wouldn't be funny. I ran into a lady friend from previous trips and I bought her dinne. Then I bought shooters for her and the bartender. Then it went South. I remember when I was talking to this new lady friend, I turned around and saw that the bartender was holding a beer and made a thumbs-up sign. Sure, why not. (She didn't say a word.)
When closing time approached, I was only casually checking the kind of drinks that I throught I purchased and I spotted 4 drinks that I didn't order. An arguement ensued and it was explained to me that some of those drinks were ordered by my lady friend that had already left and the rest were by the bartender and all were okayed by me. It was only 400 baht, so I just paid it. Besides I didn't think I had any recourse anyway.
From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually. Let's see how they can cheat next time around.
F that!
Spaceman
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13;1103879]From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually.[/QUOTE]I always do that
i decided to give the bj bar a try. i was too lazy to venture to patpoon, so i visited [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] instead. before enterring the place, i reconed that bj bar employees may not be the best looking be / see they work with their head down. but i was pleasantly surprised when a cutie took me in. mind you, i waited this long to visit a bj bar be / see it's not my favorite exercise. i don't come easy at bj. and this time was no exception. the poor thing must have repeated her repertoire so many time and after more than 30 minutes i still haven't come. even accompanied by the interesting porno vocals coming from the adjacent booth. i didn't know they do fs as well, so i suggested to my lady that we call it quits. at first she suggested to get an additional lady, but i frowned on that, so then she suggested that intercourse would be 1, 100 baht. she said bj 700, boom boom 1, 100. and i thought only another 1, 100 baht to get a release, so i went for it. she then rode me cowgirl until i came.
at the cashier, i was pleasantly surprised that bj + boom boom was 1, 100 baht. bonus! but that's it. no more bj bar for me. little spaceman is still nursing the trauma sustained from the 30+ minutes of continuous rigorous oral sex. at least i can say, i tried it.
spaceman
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1103885]I always do that[/QUOTE]Isn't it easier and more convenient for all concerned to keep checking your tab total or the number of drink slips in your bin, (that's what I do) rather than paying for each individual drink?
Went out for a few bevvies last night. First stopped over at Nana.
Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.
Spanky's. A few hotties but the shows again are pretty shit. They had a lesbian show that was okay but Suzie Wong's is much better. A girl came up to me. She was a 6 at best but was definitely up for it. 2,000 baht short time and she would not come down so we fucked off out of there.
Walked over to Cowboy. Baccara was way too crowded because of its anniversary party. Went into Shark. Lots of girls but no #14 (who I was looking for). Another came and sat down. She was a 6 or 7. Bought her a drink but she would still not go for the offered 1500 ST.
Went into Tilac. Seems that the showgirls are wearing slutty outfits, and what's this. Tights? Complete turn-off for yours truly. One of the attractions of this bar is the no underwear policy but it seems that most girls were wearing thongs underneath or the aforementioned tights. A few seemed high on yaba as well.
Walked into Dollhouse to close out the night. The hottie #8 was nowhere to be found so I went upstairs. Sat under a lovely piece of ass. Bought her a drink and made out and groped for a bit. It's quite dark upstairs but she's probably a 7. Again, she wanted 2, 000 baht and would not come down.
I've lived here for 4 years and have never paid more than 1, 500 for ST, even in high season, and unless she's a fucking supermodel, I'm not going to start. It seems that Thailand is not longer the cheap mongering destination it used to be. Or I may just have to stay away from the go-go scene until March.
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1103905]Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.
[/QUOTE]They do run these shows all night long so this may be based on the one or ones you saw. They're not Broadway quality but overall they do put on some quality shows IMO, the place is always packed in BKK or in Pats. The "fuck you" song is one of my favs.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1103915]They do run these shows all night long so this may be based on the one or ones you saw. They're not Broadway quality but overall they do put on some quality shows IMO, the place is always packed in BKK or in Pats. The "fuck you" song is one of my favs.[/QUOTE]Yes gone down hill, shows not the same as a few years ago
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1103905]Went out for a few bevvies last night. First stopped over at Nana.
Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.
Spanky's. A few hotties but the shows again are pretty shit. They had a lesbian show that was okay but Suzie Wong's is much better. A girl came up to me. She was a 6 at best but was definitely up for it. 2,000 baht short time and she would not come down so we fucked off out of there.
Walked over to Cowboy. Baccara was way too crowded because of its anniversary party. Went into Shark. Lots of girls but no #14 (who I was looking for). Another came and sat down. She was a 6 or 7. Bought her a drink but she would still not go for the offered 1500 ST.
Went into Tilac. Seems that the showgirls are wearing slutty outfits, and what's this. Tights? Complete turn-off for yours truly. One of the attractions of this bar is the no underwear policy but it seems that most girls were wearing thongs underneath or the aforementioned tights. A few seemed high on yaba as well.
Walked into Dollhouse to close out the night. The hottie #8 was nowhere to be found so I went upstairs. Sat under a lovely piece of ass. Bought her a drink and made out and groped for a bit. It's quite dark upstairs but she's probably a 7. Again, she wanted 2, 000 baht and would not come down.
I've lived here for 4 years and have never paid more than 1, 500 for ST, even in high season, and unless she's a fucking supermodel, I'm not going to start. It seems that Thailand is not longer the cheap mongering destination it used to be. Or I may just have to stay away from the go-go scene until March. [/QUOTE]Dead right no way 2k shorttime, true Suzie Wongs good show.
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1102688]In Thermae, ALL girls are FLs. However, the pretty girls are exclusively targeting Japanese ATMs and will never even look at a white guy. Some girls also go with farangs but they are not so pretty.
[/QUOTE]I am a white English guy and my experiences with the Thermae is that I am totally ignored by all the girls, they are only interested in Asian guys.
I did not have any problems with The Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, the girls there were happy to go with Western guys.
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1103879]From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually. Let's see how they can cheat next time around.
F that!
Spaceman[/QUOTE]Couldn't it turn into more expensive if youend up in giving a tip after every single order / bill? It is somehow customary to leave the change or so withth ebill (not a rule, but I think most do it that way and waitresses also expect that).
If you leave a 100 or 200B on the tap is something, if you leave 40/50 or so for every bill you end up with more.
Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=CocoLove;1103928]Dead right no way 2k shorttime.[/QUOTE]I admire your principles, however the fact that some of these girls will not budge with their prices suggests to me that they are finding customers willing to pay the asking price, maybe Japanese, but someone is clearly paying.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1104018]I admire your principles, however the fact that some of these girls will not budge with their prices suggests to me that they are finding customers willing to pay the asking price, maybe Japanese, but someone is clearly paying.[/QUOTE]Maybe going home empty handed 1 night, and scoring a "3, 3, 3" (3 inches. 3 minutes. 3,000 bt) every other night, is better than a sweaty farang at 1,000 Bt a pop every night?
Good for you to resist these rates. (not all girls get that 3, 3.3 thingy. So they should eventually give in)
I was there in May and 1500 ST was an easy catch from ALL gogo bars (remember to add 600/700 barfine and 1-2 lady drinks to these rates). It's worrying trend, is it due to the high season though. ! I've never been in Dec / Jan, now I almost regret booking.
I hope the FL are not raising their prices. That would only leaves MP and Soapies options in Bangkok (I'm assuming they keep their prices fixed).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1102854]Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.[/QUOTE]Thta's true, but not so easy to implement. Last time I went, the barman was another French guy that I did not know. He was also a bit unfriendly and rushed me to choose a oirl. When I came down, I just did not feel like explaining in frontt of everyone why I did not like it etc. I prefer to cut my losses, and not go back.
I had no problem with the look of the girls, but with the attitude and service.
Obviously those of us with a bad opinion of Eden are in the minority, so perhaps it is us who are not ready for this kind of experience.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin; 1104074]Good for you to resist these rates. (not all girls get that 3, 3.3 thingy. So they should eventually give in)
I was there in May and 1500 ST was an easy catch from ALL gogo bars (remember to add 600/700 barfine and 1-2 lady drinks to these rates). [/QUOTE]Interesting that you say ALL gogo bars.
In Rainbow 4 the better looking girls will hold out for 2000 baht, after midnight the rougher girls will no doubt be happy with 1500 baht.
Some girls get barfined every night, others rarely get barfined.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1102854]Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.[/QUOTE]Me too had a very bad expereince at EDEN, repeated next day again but the same bad attitude, infact I complained to the Guy there at the Bar that your girls put me to sleep, he pointed that to another lady at the cash counter, but she too ignored and pretended busy, had to pay 8000 Bhat for me and my freind and just walked out. I feel Edens day are over, I had an excellent time at Devils Den, I almost visited 4 time and expereince on each day was great.
Drkb744
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab; 1103968]I am a white English guy and my experiences with the Thermae is that I am totally ignored by all the girls, they are only interested in Asian guys.
I did not have any problems with The Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, the girls there were happy to go with Western guys. [/QUOTE]Thats incorrect.
I have been with a number of Thermae FL's, however they are only interested in Western guys who speak Thai well and who are living in Thailand. Yes, their target clientelle is Japanese tourists however they will go with certain Western guys.
The difference between Thermae and BG is that Thermae generally the girls are not interested in your average Western tourist, whereas in the BG Soi 7 they are.
Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1104438]Thats incorrect.
Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop. [/QUOTE]
I think it would be more correct to say that the young good looking girls at Thermae will not go with Farangs unless rent is due and the Japanese are nowhere to be seen. Even then it is iffy. The less attractive girls there, and there are lots of those and they tend to sit as opposed to stand because they are getting older by the minute, will go with anyone and in truth the Japanese will have nothing to do with them.
But I have seen many many instances in which attractive girls there have been astonishingly rude to Farangs who approach them. Waving them away dismissively before a word is exchanged, turning their backs on them or telling them they will only go with Japanese. And only Japanese. Chinese-Americans have told me they get treated badly as well as soon as the girl realizes they are not Japanese. One girl that I already knew came with me one time and jabbered with her friends on the way out the door. I asked what that was about. She said they asked her why she was going with a Farang . She told them I was a good guy.
Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1104706]Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head. It's not because they are Jappos that the girls like them, but because they don't get scared about paying 3 or 4 or even 5k if they want the girl. Also, they don't have a lot of power and huge cocks so the girls are not too tired or in pain after the session (s).
The Good thing about Japanese Guys is that they really know why they go to Thermae. They have an itch that need scratching, they hire a hooker, do the deed and bye bye.
Farangs are looking for relationships, girlfriends. And some girls don't have time for this bullshit.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1104706]Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree. And the japanese have a reputation to be generous.
So we are on opposite ends.
Obvipously there could be softer ways to neglect themselves to a western guy.
But having (willing) to do so 20 times a day, after some time the might build a rudeness they are not even be aware of.
In addition, with no offence, if they would be polite (I know, politeness is not that much expensive) and all ok they might aim to a different job.
I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.
So the only think makes it worthwhile is money. They figure they can do one jap trick (no matter how bad) and make money 3 or 4 times a normal trick.
(Disclaimer: All my opinion of course and it's not a generalization for all)
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin;1104974]I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.[/QUOTE]Of course there are those. But there are also those that just want to play checkers with the girls. And of course I've also heard about a father / son team. Generally, they are no different than us. They come in all shapes and sizes.
No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
1. Japs have smaller cocks. Which means less "damage and stretch" to the girls pussy. No girl wants to get married with a pussy the size of a cave.
2. Japs do not see the length of time of the sex as being important, its the amount of times they can cum that is "manly". Therefore the girl might get fucked twice, but first time 1 minute and second time 3 minutes. That to them is great, the last thing they want is some Viagra totting farang ramming his dick into her for 30 or 60 mintues.
3. Anal with Japs is much easier. See item 1. No girl wants a asshole the size of a cave, and also they can get extra money for anal services. So makes sense to use Japs and get more money for anal.
4. Thai boyfriends are very much wham, bam, thank you mam. Which is similar to the Japs quick style. Again it is a turn off to get a farang who wants different positions and slow and fast and change position and all that stuff, these girls are used to the quick type, boom boom and thats it.
5. Japs are honerable. The girls know they will not get ripped off and they will get paid without any problem. Too many asshole farangs have in the past taken girls and fucked them and dumped them without paying or paying much less than agreed. So safety comes into it.
[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1104706]Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them. [/QUOTE]
2 days in bangkok so far, and 2 trips to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8. this might not be the best place on earth but it has to be up there. i just haven't had my dick sucked as well and on such a consistent basis. i started going on my last trip because i stayed just around the corner from them and now can't imagine not going.
i just took the next girl up in rotation rather than choose because none of them are lookers and i'm not going to be looking at their faces am i. all the girls are smiling and joking and it's a flat 700 baht fee with nothing to upsell. you also leave without reeking of who** perfume or cigarette smoke. there were two french guys talking to each other during the service (and one of them talking to his girlfriend on the phone! dude, i would buy you a beer for that one) but no way to not cum from my girl's 20 minute worship of my dick.
just say yes next time you are in bangkok.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1104706]Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.[/QUOTE]The absolute minimum you'll pay for FS in Tokyo is just over 7000 baht, with 11, 000 being almost standardized at most places and 20, 000 and up at soaplands.
Hi fellows,
I am planning a short trip to Bangkok for my first time there. I am used to shanghai saunas and MPs but this time would love to check this activity in Bangkok. But, I want to have LT with 3 girls, spending the all night with them. Do you guys know a place to go? An hotel? Somewhere?
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1105580]Hi fellows,
I am planning a short trip to Bangkok for my first time there. I am used to shanghai saunas and MPs but this time would love to check this activity in Bangkok. But, I want to have LT with 3 girls, spending the all night with them. Do you guys know a place to go? An hotel? Somewhere? [/QUOTE]Get a nice Suite at the Davis Hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 24, Call Mango Massage and ask for 3 girls (Bo, Ice, Bam or Kate) to join you in your Room.
They will take about 5mn to get there and give you a sexathon you will not forget. You might even extend your stay.
Mango girls are good as they accept anything (no holes barred).
Have fun. Here's the website: [url]http://mangomassagesoi24.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1105356]No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
1. Japs have smaller cocks. Which means less "damage and stretch" to the girls pussy. No girl wants to get married with a pussy the size of a cave.
2. Japs do not see the length of time of the sex as being important, its the amount of times they can cum that is "manly". Therefore the girl might get fucked twice, but first time 1 minute and second time 3 minutes. That to them is great, the last thing they want is some Viagra totting farang ramming his dick into her for 30 or 60 mintues.
3. Anal with Japs is much easier. See item 1. No girl wants a asshole the size of a cave, and also they can get extra money for anal services. So makes sense to use Japs and get more money for anal.
4. Thai boyfriends are very much wham, bam, thank you mam. Which is similar to the Japs quick style. Again it is a turn off to get a farang who wants different positions and slow and fast and change position and all that stuff, these girls are used to the quick type, boom boom and thats it.
5. Japs are honerable. The girls know they will not get ripped off and they will get paid without any problem. Too many asshole farangs have in the past taken girls and fucked them and dumped them without paying or paying much less than agreed. So safety comes into it. [/QUOTE]I'm actually in a pretty good mood since it is Christmas Day!
I wonder sometimes and I know this is a sex site! Where the hell does white folks come up with some of the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] noted above? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] This Christmas in Thailand I hope Santa delivers you a [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all?
LBM
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Actually LBM, if you had the ability to read well, the answer is in the 1st 2 lines which I will repost below :
- No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1105615][QUOTE=The Pro; 1105356]No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
1. Japs have smaller cocks. Which means less "damage and stretch" to the girls pussy. No girl wants to get married with a pussy the size of a cave.
2. Japs do not see the length of time of the sex as being important, its the amount of times they can cum that is "manly". Therefore the girl might get fucked twice, but first time 1 minute and second time 3 minutes. That to them is great, the last thing they want is some Viagra totting farang ramming his dick into her for 30 or 60 mintues.
3. Anal with Japs is much easier. See item 1. No girl wants a asshole the size of a cave, and also they can get extra money for anal services. So makes sense to use Japs and get more money for anal.
4. Thai boyfriends are very much wham, bam, thank you mam. Which is similar to the Japs quick style. Again it is a turn off to get a farang who wants different positions and slow and fast and change position and all that stuff, these girls are used to the quick type, boom boom and thats it.
5. Japs are honerable. The girls know they will not get ripped off and they will get paid without any problem. Too many asshole farangs have in the past taken girls and fucked them and dumped them without paying or paying much less than agreed. So safety comes into it. [/QUOTE]I'm actually in a pretty good mood since it is Christmas Day!
I wonder sometimes and I know this is a sex site! Where the hell does white folks come up with some of the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] noted above? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] This Christmas in Thailand I hope Santa delivers you a [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all?
LBM
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[quote=tokyohomeboy; 1105436]2 days in bangkok so far, and 2 trips to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8. this might not be the best place on earth but it has to be up there. i just haven't had my dick sucked as well and on such a consistent basis. i started going on my last trip because i stayed just around the corner from them and now can't imagine not going.
i just took the next girl up in rotation rather than choose because none of them are lookers and i'm not going to be looking at their faces am i. all the girls are smiling and joking and it's a flat 700 baht fee with nothing to upsell. you also leave without reeking of who* perfume or cigarette smoke. there were two french guys talking to each other during the service (and one of them talking to his girlfriend on the phone! dude, i would buy you a beer for that one) but no way to not cum from my girl's 20 minute worship of my dick.
just say yes next time you are in bangkok. [/quote]the best is they open at 8:30 or 9 in the morning and are very happy to see you right then.
last time in bkk i went with my morning coffee in hand-
best way to start a relaxed day!
yes, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is the right place to get a good bbbjcim. the best. they are not very attractive but these girls can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch! i stayed at stable lodge across the street and made several visits. one girl gave me a free 30 minute shoulder massage at the bar after i emptied another load down her throat. now that's what i call service!
[quote=islandboy54; 1105690]the best is they open at 8:30 or 9 in the morning and are very happy to see you right then.
last time in bkk i went with my morning coffee in hand-
best way to start a relaxed day! [/quote]
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1104438]Thats incorrect.
I have been with a number of Thermae FL's, however they are only interested in Western guys who speak Thai well and who are living in Thailand. Yes, their target clientelle is Japanese tourists however they will go with certain Western guys.
The difference between Thermae and BG is that Thermae generally the girls are not interested in your average Western tourist, whereas in the BG Soi 7 they are.
Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop. [/QUOTE]They are prostitutes. Full stop.
I have been with prostitutes all over the world and never experienced the totally cold attitude that I receive at The Thermae. In fact I rarely go there now.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1105645]Actually LBM, if you had the ability to read well, the answer is in the 1st 2 lines which I will repost below :
- No, I would disagree. The Japs do not throw money around, well not the ones who go to Thermae. They pay the same rates as farangs.
The girls prefer Japs (and I have the luxury of speaking Thai and so ask the girls directly when you take them or speak to them).
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[QUOTE=Uzinuzin; 1104974]I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.
So the only think makes it worthwhile is money. They figure they can do one jap trick (no matter how bad) and make money 3 or 4 times a normal trick.)
(Disclaimer: All my opinion of course and it's not a generalization for all)[/QUOTE]It would be nice to have a japanese monger opinion on this, any japanese mongers on board.
Chill, men. It is the Season of joy. Everyone has their own opinions and versions. Just let it be.
Have a Happy New Year
Went to Spankys at Nana Plazza today and am very disapointed.
I am not that picky but hard to make a choice. I finally picked a 24yo (looks more like 17) , perfect body, nice tis, cute smile. We agreed to go to my room for a LT. She was nice but not hot, I went down on her, she jacked me offf. Didn't want to BJ, and I don't know why. And then we fucked, she was dry like a desert and it was hard to go inside.
I came very quickly as she was very exciting, but not a good session to me compared to what I am used in shanghai.
She wanted to sleep and I told her she could go home or to the bar. And ended up paying her a ST.
I am not going to spankys anymore for sure.
[quote=d cups;1105732]yes, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is the right place to get a good bbbjcim. the best. they are not very attractive but these girls can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch! i stayed at stable lodge across the street and made several visits. one girl gave me a free 30 minute shoulder massage at the bar after i emptied another load down her throat. now that's what i call service![/quote]i totally agree. for bj bars [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] are always consistent with good service from women who aren't the most attractive, but who cares, all you see is the top of their heads anyway, lol.
would love to set up my own place like that, wonder if the owner is interested in franchising his brand. lol
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun;1105836]Women who aren't the most attractive, but who cares.[/QUOTE]Did you notice my hand going up?
[QUOTE=Iching;1105771]It would be nice to have a japanese monger opinion on this, any japanese mongers on board.[/QUOTE]Given the s. Usually thrown at japanese people on this thread, including the most basic racist stereotypes, I would be surprised if any Japanese guy was masochistic enough to read this crap.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1105795]Went to Spankys at Nana Plazza today and am very disapointed.
I am not that picky but hard to make a choice. I finally picked a 24yo (looks more like 17) , perfect body, nice tis, cute smile. We agreed to go to my room for a LT. She was nice but not hot, I went down on her, she jacked me offf. Didn't want to BJ, and I don't know why. And then we fucked, she was dry like a desert and it was hard to go inside.
I came very quickly as she was very exciting, but not a good session to me compared to what I am used in shanghai.
She wanted to sleep and I told her she could go home or to the bar. And ended up paying her a ST.
I am not going to spankys anymore for sure. [/QUOTE]SP,
I don't know if you can make a sweeping assessment based on 1 girl. I stuck my head in Spankys the last few nights and saw a spectrum of types. If young (looking) and compliant is what your looking for I've had great success in Erotica and Mandarin. This one's in Erotica and is a winner, number 14 I think but youll notice her at once. A few other young types as well if she's not your brand of beer....
**(warning - shes fully clothed)**
I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in three weeks and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? Also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?
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[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1105776]Chill, men. It is the Season of joy. Everyone has their own opinions and versions. Just let it be.
Have a Happy New Year[/QUOTE]Oh come on. Why trying to Crash a perfectly good argument? I was ready to get the popcorn. .
[quote=fun and sun; 1105836]i totally agree. for bj bars [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] are always consistent with good service from women who aren't the most attractive, but who cares, all you see is the top of their heads anyway, lol.
would love to set up my own place like that, wonder if the owner is interested in franchising his brand. lol[/quote]? are you serious? of course he is interested. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] pattaya and huahin are franchises.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1105899]Given the s. Usually thrown at japanese people on this thread, including the most basic racist stereotypes, I would be surprised if any Japanese guy was masochistic enough to read this crap.[/QUOTE]I have 2 good Japanese Friends, and they are close enough to me to tell me that yes, they look down on every other guy that isn't Japanese. This is how they were raised and this is how they want to stay.
People often talk about Americans being loud and thinking they are the masters of the world. Well I guess the Japs are the same.
But who gives a fuck? We are all here for pussy. And there is more than enough of that in Thailand not to be worried what Jack, Somchai, Shiro or Kurt thinks.
[QUOTE=Clyde Drexler;1105919]I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in three weeks and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? Also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?[/QUOTE]Hey buddy,
PM me and I should be able to guide you well.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1105973]I have 2 good Japanese Friends, and they are close enough to me to tell me that yes, they look down on every other guy that isn't Japanese.[/QUOTE]I grew up in Japan and I can assure you that there are two sides to this coin. The cultural arrogance of Japanese males is real, but there's at least an equal amount of insecurity and fears of inferiority. In fact I'd say that's the main reason they try to look down on Westerners: they worry that we're looking down on them. (But they really still do feel superior to other Asians.)
But, as you say, who gives a fuck. Plenty to go around, and anyhow the girls who specialize in Japanese are usually of no interest to me.
i have seen some japanese porno featuring the biggest boobs i have ever seen on asian women. unfortuantely japanese govt makes filmakers censor the good parts.
as for japanese men, no offense to any reading this, i think you should reconnect with your humbler roots.
meanwhile i can't wait to back to bkk next year and go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for a few bjs, hook up with some new snatch at the biergarten and take my busty thai girlfriend to chiang mai for loy krathong in novemebr. has anyone seen loy krathong festival?
[quote=betong; 1106019]i grew up in japan and i can assure you that there are two sides to this coin. the cultural arrogance of japanese males is real, but there's at least an equal amount of insecurity and fears of inferiority. in fact i'd say that's the main reason they try to look down on westerners: they worry that we're looking down on them. (but they really still do feel superior to other asians.)
but, as you say, who gives a fuck. plenty to go around, and anyhow the girls who specialize in japanese are usually of no interest to me. [/quote]
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1105795]She wanted to sleep and I told her she could go home or to the bar. And ended up paying her a ST.
I am not going to spankys anymore for sure. [/QUOTE]In these cases I am always wondering whether the result you had is due to the girl only or the establishment has something to do with the attitude.
I mean, can it be that it attracts certain kind of wome and attitudes?
If that is the case it will not have much repeat customers, just as you decided not to go again anymore.
More: is the establishment doing some sort of check or does it give guidelines to the girls (ad make sure they deliver what they are supposed to deliver) , since they get a BF?
I know there are not 100% safe rules, even in more focused places (an MP, a soapie, etc) as it is also a matter of chemistry. But still one expects a minimum service when taking a girl out of a place.
[quote=nicfrenchy;1105972]? are you serious? of course he is interested. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] pattaya and huahin are franchises.[/quote]lol. i think that i will apply for an assistant manager role first to learn the ropes of the complex trade of running a bj bar.
[quote=islandboy54; 1105690]the best is they open at 8:30 or 9 in the morning and are very happy to see you right then.
last time in bkk i went with my morning coffee in hand-
best way to start a relaxed day! [/quote]i did not know that they open their fine establishment so early! if this is the case, they should update their website where it is stated that they are open from 11am till 1am the next day.
[url]http://www.lolitasbangkok.com/services.html[/url]
[quote=goyave; 1106050]i did not know that they open their fine establishment so early! if this is the case, they should update their website where it is stated that they are open from 11am till 1am the next day.
[url]http://www.lolitasbangkok.com/services.html[/url]
[/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, sol@patpong2 that opens early.
there is one girl that arrives at 8am to setup the bar, if you are there, she will rush and finish her setup by 8:30. then you can get her to suck you or fuck her on the couch.
I got pissed off by my two first experiences in Bangkok, so I decided to take two girls overnight in my room from "mango".
I called them but my skype hang up suddenly and I decided then to go there.
Once arrived, I felt very comfortable in the place, girls were smiling and having a positive attitude as well as the mamasan.
I asked for two girls overnight to my room. Damage would be 6000baths which is not bad at think!
Hard to make a choice and to pick girls. I really wanted cherry, who 's very cute but she gets her period. And seems to be sad when I said that I am not fond on girls on period. Finally, I chose Apple who was smiling and looked very nice to me and Cat. Cat wasn't here but the mama gave me the book and I found her very attractive!
None of the girls were really stunning but selection is more than ok there.
We agreed for 10pm to my room.
10pm, a knock on the door, girls arrived.
Apple seemed to be happy and in a good mood but Cat was like tired or something.
I asked what was going on there. And Apple explained me that Cat was sick and she actually looked sick. They told me that when I came to the shop, she was sleeping that's why she wasn't downstairs with the other girls.
Anyway, I told her not to stay here and that it would be better for her to get some rest. She was happy that I didn't get mad and she left. No problem, apple asked me if I wanted another the girl and she helped me to pick.
While we were waiting for Venus, We talked a lot, and it was actually nice. Then Venus arrived. She looks very different on the photos. She was promising on her photos but I was a bit disappointed when I saw her. Anyways.
Let's get the session started.
They took my and her clothes off and went to shower. How nice it was to be with this two nice bodies in the shower! They washed me with their boobs and went down on me.
They we headed to the bed. Where I felt like lost, everything was going two fast for me, they are very pro and knows what they are doing! Hard to take a breath. Apple was giving me a BBBJ while Venus was taking care of my nipples with her thongue. And then I don't know what happened and how but I was fucking Venus, touching her boobs and DATY on the shaved pussy of Apple. I was like in heaven. My eyes were shut and when I opened them again I was now eating Apple boobs and fucking Venus in another position! YEAH!
What the fuck! That is life. Jajaja. After a while apple wanted me to ride her, ok, I was now fucking Apple missionary while Venus was massaging my little hole. Hmmm. It was too much for me! Seriously! And I came!
WOW what a session! I didn't have to rest that the two angels were giving me thai massage and after maybe 30 minutes, they started to take care of my little brother again. Second round began. Kind of the same things happened (I don't remember exactly what but trust me guys, that was cool) until I came.
It was time to sleep now. I was in my king bed in the middle of them, we were cuddling and that was kind of nice, I must say. I fell asleep and after a while I woke up and Apple was stimulating my cock. Wow, this girl is never tired? Venus seemed less in the mood for sex this time. And third round, everybody 's ready. Let's go!
It was a bit hard to come this time and then after fucking Apple for a while, I jacked myself off until I came.
Then Venus told me she had to leave around six. No problem. But Apple said she could stay with me a bit more. After three pops, she could have left too, would not have been such big of a deal. But she stayed, well taking care of me!
6 o'clock, venus is leaving. I paid her 3000baths and when I went back to sleep, Apple started to suck me again, wow and then we had a 69 and she got wet for the first time this night. Before she was using lube. Cool!
We had very good sex until she proposed me her little hole. I politely refused and came on her breast! I was like exhausted after this night.
10 o clock, Apple is in the shower, I put discreetly 4000 baths in the pocket of her jeans 3000 + 1000 tip for the super good service!
She kissed me and left!
Now it's time to rest. And think about tonight what to do for my last night in Bangkok.
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1106161][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, [email]sol@patpong2[/email] that opens early.
there is one girl that arrives at 8am to setup the bar, if you are there, she will rush and finish her setup by 8:30. then you can get her to suck you or fuck her on the couch. [/quote]you're a great contributor to this forum nic but why would you doubt my word as i made it clear that it was my first hand (mouth) experience. i arrived there about 9:20 and at least ten girls were outside. granted some were working on their make up, but girls always do that. so i asked them if they're open for business already to which they agreed very cheerfully that they arrived there already at 8:30.
check it out yourself and report back please!
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1106161][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, [email]sol@patpong2[/email] that opens early.
there is one girl that arrives at 8am to setup the bar, if you are there, she will rush and finish her setup by 8:30. then you can get her to suck you or fuck her on the couch. [/quote]have been at sol today at about 11. there were only two ladies present. went first with pla on the sofa. then after having finished and another beer i felt strong enough for a second round with pla and aen. both have nice breasts and give good service, although i would class pla higher for bj. for boumboum, i think the sol-ladies are not participatoy enough. not to be compared to tulip, mango et al. so, nect time i will limit it to waht the ladies can best. by the way, contrary to earlier post, i had never the impression that the question "condom, mai" was more than rhetorical.
[quote=nicfrenchy;1106161][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] does not open before 11am. it is the other bj bar, sol@patpong2 that opens early...[/quote]that's what i thought, but islandboy54's recent post in this thread was a bit misleading imho and made me believe that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s was now opening earlier than what is stated on its website. anyway, thank you for your clarifications.
[quote=goyave;1106312]that's what i thought, but islandboy54's recent post in this thread was a bit misleading imho and made me believe that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s was now opening earlier than what is stated on its website. anyway, thank you for your clarifications.[/quote]wait, i could be wrong. i haven't been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] that early but they used to open at 11am (some girls are there earlier but i would think not before 10:30)
[quote=nicfrenchy;1106320]wait, i could be wrong. i haven't been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] that early but they used to open at 11am (some girls are there earlier but i would think not before 10:30)[/quote]as a soi 8 / soi 11 regular i can confirm that lolos has girls available from between 8 and 8. 30am. i have certainly been sucked off there with a stinking hangover before 9am. the girls sit outside doing their makeup.
sol also can get service at 8. 30/9 although only 2 girls there until the day shift arrives around 11. 30. just bang on the door if its not open.
[quote=islandboy54; 1106279]you're a great contributor to this forum nic but why would you doubt my word as i made it clear that it was my first hand (mouth) experience. i arrived there about 9:20 and at least ten girls were outside. granted some were working on their make up, but girls always do that. so i asked them if they're open for business already to which they agreed very cheerfully that they arrived there already at 8:30.
check it out yourself and report back please! [/quote]thank you for your clarifications, islandboy54. for some (unknown to me) reason, it seems that the displaying of your report had been delayed and i answered to nicfrenchy's recent post before seeing your latest reply. so, it appears that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s now opens earlier and that's a good news that should be mentioned on its website.
thank you again for your useful report, islandboy54!
[QUOTE=ButtLover; 1101759]Hi.
There are 3 older women in their fifties at Nana Hotel and carparking.
I have seen them there for many years, and I've never seen them with a "customer"
Does anyone know more about them?
BL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dreams;1105899]Given the s. Usually thrown at japanese people on this thread, including the most basic racist stereotypes, I would be surprised if any Japanese guy was masochistic enough to read this crap.[/QUOTE]The reason I think that Thai working girls like the Japanese is because they pay more money for anything extra, where as a westerner will only pay what he originaly first agreed with. So if the westerner ask her to have ice cream for beakfast with him the next morning than as far as he is concerned hes not going to give her more money for joining him.
Hey buttlover. I was also curious about those woman as I also did not see them with customers.
Last time I thought to myself: Why not?
It was a very pleasant encounter. Her body was not as a 18 year old but much better than expected and ofcourse her experience was unbeatable. She was also fun to be with. So I had a very good afternoon session.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106189]I got pissed off by my two first experiences in Bangkok, so I decided to take two girls overnight in my room from "mango".
I called them but my skype hang up suddenly and I decided then to go there.
Once arrived, I felt very comfortable in the place, girls were smiling and having a positive attitude as well as the mamasan.
I asked for two girls overnight to my room. Damage would be 6000baths which is not bad at think!
Hard to make a choice and to pick girls. I really wanted cherry, who 's very cute but she gets her period. And seems to be sad when I said that I am not fond on girls on period. Finally, I chose Apple who was smiling and looked very nice to me and Cat. Cat wasn't here but the mama gave me the book and I found her very attractive!
None of the girls were really stunning but selection is more than ok there.
We agreed for 10pm to my room.
10pm, a knock on the door, girls arrived.
Apple seemed to be happy and in a good mood but Cat was like tired or something.
I asked what was going on there. And Apple explained me that Cat was sick and she actually looked sick. They told me that when I came to the shop, she was sleeping that's why she wasn't downstairs with the other girls.
Anyway, I told her not to stay here and that it would be better for her to get some rest. She was happy that I didn't get mad and she left. No problem, apple asked me if I wanted another the girl and she helped me to pick.
While we were waiting for Venus, We talked a lot, and it was actually nice. Then Venus arrived. She looks very different on the photos. She was promising on her photos but I was a bit disappointed when I saw her. Anyways.
Let's get the session started.
They took my and her clothes off and went to shower. How nice it was to be with this two nice bodies in the shower! They washed me with their boobs and went down on me.
They we headed to the bed. Where I felt like lost, everything was going two fast for me, they are very pro and knows what they are doing! Hard to take a breath. Apple was giving me a BBBJ while Venus was taking care of my nipples with her thongue. And then I don't know what happened and how but I was fucking Venus, touching her boobs and DATY on the shaved pussy of Apple. I was like in heaven. My eyes were shut and when I opened them again I was now eating Apple boobs and fucking Venus in another position! YEAH!
What the fuck! That is life. Jajaja. After a while apple wanted me to ride her, ok, I was now fucking Apple missionary while Venus was massaging my little hole. Hmmm. It was too much for me! Seriously! And I came!
WOW what a session! I didn't have to rest that the two angels were giving me thai massage and after maybe 30 minutes, they started to take care of my little brother again. Second round began. Kind of the same things happened (I don't remember exactly what but trust me guys, that was cool) until I came.
It was time to sleep now. I was in my king bed in the middle of them, we were cuddling and that was kind of nice, I must say. I fell asleep and after a while I woke up and Apple was stimulating my cock. Wow, this girl is never tired? Venus seemed less in the mood for sex this time. And third round, everybody 's ready. Let's go!
It was a bit hard to come this time and then after fucking Apple for a while, I jacked myself off until I came.
Then Venus told me she had to leave around six. No problem. But Apple said she could stay with me a bit more. After three pops, she could have left too, would not have been such big of a deal. But she stayed, well taking care of me!
6 o'clock, venus is leaving. I paid her 3000baths and when I went back to sleep, Apple started to suck me again, wow and then we had a 69 and she got wet for the first time this night. Before she was using lube. Cool!
We had very good sex until she proposed me her little hole. I politely refused and came on her breast! I was like exhausted after this night.
10 o clock, Apple is in the shower, I put discreetly 4000 baths in the pocket of her jeans 3000 + 1000 tip for the super good service!
She kissed me and left!
Now it's time to rest. And think about tonight what to do for my last night in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]Great to hear your report but to pay western prices or more than double the price you should be, will surely ruin Thailand as a mongerers destination. If it isn't happening already!
As I said liked the report but with that sort of money and tips we might as well wave Thailand gooodbye, as it will be spoilt like so many other places.
[QUOTE=Jbond; 1106378]Great to hear your report but to pay western prices or more than double the price you should be, will surely ruin Thailand as a mongerers destination. If it isn't happening already!
As I said liked the report but with that sort of money and tips we might as well wave Thailand gooodbye, as it will be spoilt like so many other places. [/QUOTE]Why is that? Prices are the same. He decided to take them for Overnight (that's 8 hours) and the price of 3, 000 is fair.
I usually drop that kind of cash in Mango for a 2 hours session (800 to shop. 2,000 to the lady).
3, 000 isn't bad for an overnight with a Mango girl.
Nice report S. P. Now let's get the pricing in the proper perspective. For 90 minutes, in house with one girl the Mango price is 1500bt for the girl and 600 to the house if I am not mistaken for a total of 2100bt before tip. You took two Mango girls out from 10pm till morning for unlimited number of rides for 3000bt per girl before tip and the sex was very good. I think you got a good deal. By comparison a Baccara Go Go girl service fee is 2000bt plus barfine of 900bt before tip for short time. Or a Copa Cobana R sideline girl is 3100bt before tip for 90 minutes and 2 shots.
Now maybe the Baccara and Copa girls are prettier, or alternatively you can definitely find cheaper probably less attractive girls on the street or in beergarden. The point I think is that the Mango prices you paid are reasonable in today's Bangkok. And by the way, I think Apple is a peach.
[QUOTE=Iching;1106371]The reason I think that Thai working girls like the Japanese is because they pay more money for anything extra, where as a westerner will only pay what he originaly first agreed with. [/QUOTE]I had a long discussion with an older Japanese chap a few nights ago which started at soi 7 Beer Garden and ended at Thermae. He, too, is dismayed at the Japanese willingness to overpay, and puts it down to two factors: 1) The relative low cost of, say, 4000 baht for a short-time in Bangkok compared to what the same (but probably less fun) would cost in a major metropolitan area in Japan, and 2) the willingness of the Japanese to pay a premium to have a girl who speaks even marginal Japanese. A lot of the Thermae girls have attempted to learn conversational Japanese, whereas the girls at establishments with similar "systems," such as Beer Garden, have not. A lot of Japanese really hate to be forced to try to speak English. At any rate, bear in mind that there are experienced Japanese in Thailand who resent the expectation on the part of the girls that they are willing to pay exorbitant prices.
One more thing, while the Japanese may be a xenophobic lot, there is little chance of a Japanese guy having too much to drink and deciding that it would be more fun to start a brawl than play with the girlies. I find this a pleasant contrast to the behavior of many of the visitors from a certain (nominally) European island nation. If Japanese get overly soused they generally throw up or start crying. At any rate, they know how to be civil, which counts for something.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1106476]Why is that? Prices are the same. He decided to take them for Overnight (that's 8 hours) and the price of 3, 000 is fair.
I usually drop that kind of cash in Mango for a 2 hours session (800 to shop. 2,000 to the lady).
3, 000 isn't bad for an overnight with a Mango girl.[/QUOTE]As we all know the average salary in Thailand per month is 8000 baht. She will go back to her boyfriend or any Thai guy back in her neighbourhood who can drum up 500 baht with no tip, while the boyfriend will be fucking and living off her for nothing amused that people are also handing out 1000 baht tips. Four hours for her where many of the people she knows have to work incredibly hard and all hours for two or three weeks for the same result. The pricing formula goes wrong if the mind is switched onto Western levels of living instead of the Far East. An example would be of an attractive working girl back home earning what the average person would earn in a week for a session of hide the sausage with a client but you know their is an imbalance when the ratio starts to work out at more like two to three weeks of an average monthly salary.
My friends have great girls who are all happy with what they are given either in Bangkok or in Pattaya. While still giving their girls more than the average Thai guy. I have lived and worked in various parts of the world and I have seen one destination after another being slowly ruined and westernised. Thailand has become hugely more expensive in a very short time with the strengthening baht, hike in what the establishments and the girls want, while airline / fuel prices continue to creep up. Inevitably, Thailand will become no more than a banal family tourist destination. At the end of the day, you will all say as long as the guy is happy, why should he worry about preserving a destination for the future. Hedonism is all about now and for the moment and the upward spiral of everyone trying to compete and pay more than the next person for the most attractive possible girl.
The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.
[QUOTE=George111;1106765]The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.[/QUOTE]I mean. OK, this is a mongering forum and we discuss about paid sex.
Fair enough, but. Expecting a REGULATION in this environment? Come on!
[QUOTE=Jbond; 1106605]...Thailand has become hugely more expensive in a very short time with the strengthening baht, hike in what the establishments and the girls want, while airline / fuel prices continue to creep up. Inevitably, Thailand will become no more than a banal family tourist destination. At the end of the day, you will all say as long as the guy is happy, why should he worry about preserving a destination for the future. Hedonism is all about now and for the moment and the upward spiral of everyone trying to compete and pay more than the next person for the most attractive possible girl. [/QUOTE]The only ones to stop visiting Thailand will be the Cheap Charlies. As long as there are beautiful, friendly, loving Thai women (as in GFE), men of means will come to partake. It's the natural selection process at work. Supply and demand in the global economy.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1106806]The only ones to stop visiting Thailand will be the Cheap Charlies. As long as there are beautiful, friendly, loving Thai women (as in GFE), men of means will come to partake. It's the natural selection process at work. Supply and demand in the global economy.[/QUOTE]"Men of Means" can partake of beautiful, friendly Thai or other women in the USA, or Europe or anywhere in the world, if you really are a Man or Means you do not need to travel.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106189]Apple seemed to be happy and in a good mood but Cat was like tired or something.
I asked what was going on there. And Apple explained me that Cat was sick and she actually looked sick. They told me that when I came to the shop, she was sleeping that's why she wasn't downstairs with the other girls.
[/QUOTE]I already saw Kat on 26th (I think, or was it 27th - my memory fades). I can confirm Kat was worn out. All night drinking party with friends / workmates celebarting Christmas? Add to that an early take-out customer, didn't eat anything much and suffering from leg cramps. I advised her to take some vitamins and eat more food.
Although reluctant to go with me due to depleted energy, I had a good session with 2 shots. She got off a few times too. She didn't complain. I gave her the massage. Swedish and "French" which she appreciated.
By the end of this she was totally stuffed, so to speak. So I can understand she needed sleep, rest, food, etc.
Still a very pretty girl even if her maginificent smile has deserted her for a moment.
Mango is closed for a few days now for new year, I believe (from 28th I think).
i remember reading some previous post indicating some real cutie at doll's house. so wandered in at 8:30pm out of curiousity. a real boring looking group of girls dancing down stairs. a few ugly silicone jobs and no really nice bodies. perhaps the best lookers were gone already. had to go upsatirs for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and then saw they had nude table top dancers upstairs.
eventually called one over for a drink after i liked the expression on her face and her body and her dancing was superbly sexy. quite nice looking (forgiving a typical buri-ram nose) and not too dark. won't mention the name or number here. too scared of her getting bfed by some bestard reading this.
after a long chat (in mostly thai. her english rather limited) , found that she was of very exceptional character (for a bar-girl). no drinking, no smoking, no gambling, no thai boyfriend sucking her money (finished with him some time back) , sending all her earnings to the bank, and only been working 3 months. plans to not stay in business long. did not discuss how much for all night either.
fantastic gfe as well.
hot body, hot dancer, and enthusiastic sex, great kisser, although lacking the knowledge to give a great bj. suction powered tight pussy. we chatted till god knows what hour.
i am really shocked when i find a hot looking bargirl that is so thoroughly nice. it just doesn't happen much. her character as yet doesn't seem spoiled by being in the bar and seems to be resisting peer pressure well.
[QUOTE=Banananl;1106376]It was a very pleasant encounter. Her body was not as a 18 year old but much better than expected and ofcourse her experience was unbeatable. She was also fun to be with. So I had a very good afternoon session.[/QUOTE]I got a few freebies from a 41 year old Thai girl recently. Unfortunately after only having one BF who wasn't much good for the last 12 years or so, her experience is not that great. Found her to be boring in bed, body a rather flabby round the bum and thighs, bad breath from smoking very cheap cigarettes, pussy not 100% fragrant, a little too much pussy hair, etc. I have been too spoiled by the young hot bodies.
So I go back to paying and get a young dream girl. This is my bad character.
But I think older women who are not so pretty any more, or not so skillful, ought to pay to be well serviced too.
I would continue to do her if she paid me well. Otherwise or would rather pay to get a dream girl for a while. Its sometimes cheaper than a real GF anyway and you get what you pay for.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106189]6 o'clock, venus is leaving. I paid her 3000baths and when I went back to sleep, Apple started to suck me again, wow and then we had a 69 and she got wet for the first time this night. Before she was using lube. Cool!
We had very good sex until she proposed me her little hole. I politely refused and came on her breast! I was like exhausted after this night.
10 o clock, Apple is in the shower, I put discreetly 4000 baths in the pocket of her jeans 3000 + 1000 tip for the super good service!
She kissed me and left!
Now it's time to rest. And think about tonight what to do for my last night in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]No wonder she offered her ass by herself-you have over-paid them.
I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny.
[quote=sanook d; 1106526]i had a long discussion with an older japanese chap a few nights ago which started at soi 7 beer garden and ended at thermae. he, too, is dismayed at the japanese willingness to overpay, and puts it down to two factors: 1) the relative low cost of, say. 4000 baht for a short-time in bangkok compared to what the same (but probably less fun) would cost in a major metropolitan area in japan, and 2) the willingness of the japanese to pay a premium to have a girl who speaks even marginal japanese. a lot of the thermae girls have attempted to learn conversational japanese, whereas the girls at establishments with similar "systems," such as beer garden, have not. a lot of japanese really hate to be forced to try to speak english. at any rate, bear in mind that there are experienced japanese in thailand who resent the expectation on the part of the girls that they are willing to pay exorbitant prices.
one more thing, while the japanese may be a xenophobic lot, there is little chance of a japanese guy having too much to drink and deciding that it would be more fun to start a brawl than play with the girlies. i find this a pleasant contrast to the behavior of many of the visitors from a certain (nominally) european island nation. if japanese get overly soused they generally throw up or start crying. at any rate, they know how to be civil, which counts for something. [/quote]for your information, full sex or vaginal intercourse in tokyo with girls aged between 18-25 would cost somewhere between 20000 yen and 45000 yen for an hour or less plus 4000-8000 yen two hour-stay rate in a love hotel.
at the top end, girls are very pretty, tall (yes, not hard to find girls above 165 cm) , very fair (throughout-pink or very fair pussy increasingly with shaved or beautifully trimmed pussies) , fashionable, slender (no tummy, very flat) , long legs, well manicured and good mannered with good to great services. these 'northeast asian' qualities are highly regarded by most, if not all, thais too.
at the lower end, many girls are not really an ocean apart from the bar girls in bangkok, but would still cost 20000 yen plus 4000-8000 yen hotel rate with wildly unpredictable services. by the way, there are varieties of optional services and it is not hard to get anal sex, cim, bbbj, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url], bondage, pegging or other kinky stuff.
in short whatever you can get in bangkok, japanese women can offer them too if money is no object, albeit, sadly mostly only to japanese and to a much lesser extent, japanese-speaking foreigners. this explains why your average japanese mongers in thailand are willing to overpay, because most of them would only go for the lower end of japanese girls in tokyo.
[QUOTE=George111;1106765]The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha, funniest (and dumbest) post of the day!
[quote=syzygies; 1106896]i remember reading some previous post indicating some real cutie at doll's house. so wandered in at 8:30pm out of curiousity. a real boring looking group of girls dancing down stairs. a few ugly silicone jobs and no really nice bodies. perhaps the best lookers were gone already. had to go upsatirs for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and then saw they had nude table top dancers upstairs.
eventually called one over for a drink after i liked the expression on her face and her body and her dancing was superbly sexy. quite nice looking (forgiving a typical buri-ram nose) and not too dark. won't mention the name or number here. too scared of her getting bfed by some bestard reading this.
after a long chat (in mostly thai. her english rather limited) , found that she was of very exceptional character (for a bar-girl). no drinking, no smoking, no gambling, no thai boyfriend sucking her money (finished with him some time back) , sending all her earnings to the bank, and only been working 3 months. plans to not stay in business long. did not discuss how much for all night either.
fantastic gfe as well.
hot body, hot dancer, and enthusiastic sex, great kisser, although lacking the knowledge to give a great bj. suction powered tight pussy. we chatted till god knows what hour.
i am really shocked when i find a hot looking bargirl that is so thoroughly nice. it just doesn't happen much. her character as yet doesn't seem spoiled by being in the bar and seems to be resisting peer pressure well. [/quote]nice post and good info. just curious about not wanting to give out the bar name and her number. doesn't matter to me but just curious about your logic. did you take her out of the business or will she be back at work when you leave?
i had a (kinda. sort of) similar experience last week. i walk into this go go and a girl latches onto me (go go girl #1). i could immediately tell she was young and sweet but i also knew immediately that she would not make my dance card this evening as i had my eye on a few other much sexier ladies. so i politely talked to her for a few minutes then made my way onto my intended targets. took a girl (go go girl #2) and had a great night. 2 nights later i went in to possibly takegg#1 but she was not there. hung out with gg#2 for a while and re-explained that i am a butterfly and would not repeat with her (she understood this as i paid her well and we had a great night and i had already explained that i am really not a repeater and she got it) anyway, we talked for a few minutes and i bought her and a friend some drinks and took another girl for another great night.
went in 2 nights later and buy gg#2 some more drinks as i did like her and she's begging me to take gg#1 who was there. i didn't tell her that it was my intention all along but made it look like her idea. so i did and the results were exactly as i expected. the girl had been working for about 2 months but only had 2 customers before me. the reason she was not there 2 nights earlier was here second 'date'. so the guy takes her to a restaurant or a bar with food (i'm not sure) and she leaves her wallet on the table and when she gets back from the bathroom its gone. someone in the place (or the monger) stole it but you could predict it like the sun coming up! this little girl was the most innocent thing i've come across in years. sweet as a fig but too innocent. really, just a simple sweet girl.
so my evening goes as expected and she happy to do anything i direct. the perfect gfe (though she's not exactly rockin my world) its heavenly as when i roll off her spent and put my arm around her she doesn't move but to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] or make me another drink and then hurry back to please me. nice! but, the reality is that i am not repeating with her (well maybe once, we'll see) and it is an absolute certainty that she will get fucked over by some scumbag. certain! she's too simple / sweet not to and i don't want to be there to see the results because this is not some little undereducated, untrained american girl who after realizing hookering sucks, goes and enrolls in 2 classes in some local community college and claims to be a 'student'. this girl has nowhere else to go. no kids but parents are lazy shits who sent her off to support them and she can't quit unless she works in a mall for 300bhat a week and her parents won't tolerate that. tragic really.
now the moral of this long windbag story – i won't post her contact info (nor did i even take any pics) here because i think this girl should not be in this business. period. i'm not suggesting anyone here would fuck her over (though someone might, how would i know) but because i don't want to contribute to her demise. it will happen on its own and it will be ugly. not if but when. while some of the other girls clearly are looking after her and she's probably enjoying that camaraderie, it won't last long and surely some of the others will crush her in a heartbeat for a ping-pong ball.
but, i can't save the world as hard as i've tried. nothing i can do. you really have to pick your spots or try too hard and you end up getting fucked! the world is going to spin and people will do what people do.
but, sounds like your girl can take care of herself though so why not give her the extra business and post her info, if it's in fact true that she'll be leaving soon? more business will allow her to exit sooner (if in fact she really will quit which is 50-50 at best) lots of guys here love to take that type of shortcut.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1106915]Nice post and good info. Just curious about not wanting to give out the bar name and her number. Doesn't matter to me but just curious about your logic. Did you take her out of the business or will she be back at work when you leave?
But, sounds like your girl can take care of herself though so why not give her the extra business and post her info, if it's in fact true that she'll be leaving soon? More business will allow her to exit sooner (if in fact she really will quit which is 50-50 at best) Lots of guys here love to take that type of shortcut. [/QUOTE]You will see that normally I do post Girl's info. But many experienced mongers will understand my logic completely. I am obviously going back for her a few times myself (and can't be sure to get there early enough to be guaranteed the girl). I am not trying to take her out of the business (we only just met). I already gave her enough publicity for the nicer intellegent guys to find her if they really want to. I am not into complete spoon feeding the subset of totally self centred asshole dick-wits (and there are quite a few) on the forum, and I am not thinking of anyone in particular here (just generalising). Some guys won't bother to look for her as she doesn't do anal and is probably not that keen to try to blow a big banana (perhaps some training tonight).
You didn't post the girl's info either. .
I gave publicity to Mango Kat recently and now find reports that she is getting sick and very tired, perhaps contributed to by too many demanding customers.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106904]I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny. [/QUOTE]Well said. You paid what you thought was fair for the service. Even Nic thinks it was fair.
If you pay fairly, the girls will always want to keep seeing you. They will try to avoid the Cheap Charlies.
I prefer to get a fairly moderately priced Hotel, big breakfast, eat cheaply frequently, and have more money left over for girls. During a few days with a freebie GIK, I may then pick a slightly more up-market Hotel or restaurant.
Too many posters are probably in the much cheaper Pattaya area. Some forum members need to move to cheap Cambodia, immediately (or perhaps even Tanzania, Nigeria etc.).
Some already have.
Despite the free market that any one guy cannot control, Thai girls remain a very good value for money option compared to many western Countries. There are cheaper countries of course.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1106915]... unless she works in a mall for 300BHAT a week...[/QUOTE][b]300 baht a week[/b]? The minimum wage is currently 206 baht [b]per day[/b] in Bangkok! I guess that it is a typo in your case.
Some people here (I don't say that it is your case) don't know much about the local economics and I recommend everybody to have at least a look at the figures mentioned [url="http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/4504/ber2009p6.gif"]here[/url], for instance. It helps to keep things in perspective.
[QUOTE=Bluerose;1106906]For your information, full sex or vaginal intercourse in Tokyo with girls aged between 18-25 would cost somewhere between 20000 yen and 45000 yen for an hour or less plus 4000-8000 yen two hour-stay rate in a love hotel.[/QUOTE]That sounds about right. Didn't really need that information myself, but helpful to some on this board I'm sure.
[QUOTE=Bluerose;1106906]In short whatever you can get in Bangkok, Japanese women can offer them too if money is no object[/QUOTE]Don't really agree with this part. There is a sad lack of sanook in the Japanese P4P game- you might have found it in some of the Yokohama joints back in the day, although chances are the provider wouldn't have been Japanese. By and large the Japanese aren't really into spontaneity; they like to know what to expect, and prefer an accurate menu of services beforehand. This is probably why some of the places in Thailand that cater to the Japanese make such a big deal about "no tipping." Plenty of fun to be had with the non-P4P J-girls, which is a good thing since, as you rightly point out, the P4P in Japan is mostly off-limits to non-Japanese, although that doesn't necessarily apply to the very expensive soapies.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106904]I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny. [/QUOTE]\
I fully agree
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1106806]The only ones to stop visiting Thailand will be the Cheap Charlies. As long as there are beautiful, friendly, loving Thai women (as in GFE), men of means will come to partake. It's the natural selection process at work. Supply and demand in the global economy.[/QUOTE]Men of means stay usually in their own environment and you will never see them running around Nana and in Pattaya, like the guys you see who have saved all year long to have some fun on a two week holiday. I can assure you, something I do know about for my sins having acted on behalf of some truly wealthy people in their pursuit of beautiful women to play hide the sausage with. Without giving too much away, I was finding it more and more difficult to attract these people to where I was in South America and the Far East because of their own set ups. Men of means are exactly that, they have made their money because they understand value / the market place are aware of every cent / penny and are more risk averse. You mistake value for money and the changing face of Thailand as just a discussion about nickels and dimes.
Thai girls who work in legitimate jobs in Bangkok can expect to make around 7, 000 baht per month if they don't have a university degree. With degree and a decent job, more like 11, 000 or 12, 0000.
Starbucks for example will pay about 9, 500 for entry level, and 50, 000 / month for a branch manager.
An apartment in On nut will be around 3000 or 4000 for 1 room. Obviously less if they're sharing or get a real crap place.
In Tokyo I paid around 35, 000 yen for 2 hours with an escort catering to farangs. Which is about 6500 baht / hour.
[QUOTE=The Pro;1106829]"Men of Means" can partake of beautiful, friendly Thai or other women in the USA, or Europe or anywhere in the world, if you really are a Man or Means you do not need to travel.[/QUOTE]It's a lot more fun to travel to an exotic destination than to stay home in the cold and gray. The BMW will still be in the garage when you return, right? Pro, isn't that why you like the PI so much?
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106904]I am so sorry guys, because of me you 'll have to pay more. .
Come on! You guys are so ridiculous when I read you.
You pick a bar girl for a LT you pay :2500-3000 for the girl if she's hot. 600-1000 to the bar without drinks.
She stays LT from 1am to 7am.
Or you take a girl for a week and you pay for everything + you tip.
I gave apple 4000, there is 3000 for her and 1000 for the shop. She stayed from 10pm to 10 am. Who's overpaying?
Hahah, that is funny. [/QUOTE]Well, it all depends how pretty and young the girl is. 4000 is an acceptable price for top pretty girls (I. E. Fresh girls with firm slim body and lovely face).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1105973]I have 2 good Japanese Friends, and they are close enough to me to tell me that yes, they look down on every other guy that isn't Japanese. This is how they were raised and this is how they want to stay.[/QUOTE]Good luck them. They live in a shrinking country with a stagnated economy which is ever so quickly losing its world importance. Give it 20-30 years and we'll all be mongering in Japan.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1106189]I got pissed off by my two first experiences in Bangkok, so I decided to take two girls overnight in my room from "mango".[/QUOTE]Nice report! Glad you finally 'got' Bangkok. Why were you trying Skype? Get a local SIM. Cheap and no big deal.
Also, my apologies. I probably had a lot to do with why Cat was no in shape for you.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1106884]I already saw Kat on 26th (I think, or was it 27th - my memory fades). I can confirm Kat was worn out. All night drinking party with friends / workmates celebarting Christmas? Add to that an early take-out customer, didn't eat anything much and suffering from leg cramps. I advised her to take some vitamins and eat more food.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there was also that fat fuck that did her 5 times that day. But I did tried to rub out the leg cramp! Sorry!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1106476]Why is that? Prices are the same. He decided to take them for Overnight (that's 8 hours) and the price of 3, 000 is fair.
I usually drop that kind of cash in Mango for a 2 hours session (800 to shop. 2,000 to the lady).
3, 000 isn't bad for an overnight with a Mango girl. [/QUOTE]It is money very well spent. Not overpayment at all!
[QUOTE=Bluerose;1106901]No wonder she offered her ass by herself-you have over-paid them.[/QUOTE]
Guess you don't know/understand the concept of Mango/Tulip/Snow White/Victoria.
[QUOTE=El Frances;1107016]Well, it all depends how pretty and young the girl is. 4000 is an acceptable price for top pretty girls (I. E. Fresh girls with firm slim body and lovely face).[/QUOTE]I disagree, there is no General benchmark here. The "Fresh girls with firm slim body and lovely face" are your thing, but might not be everyone elses
Indians and Arabs like Fat Girls.
Asians like Fair Skinned and pretty young.
Caucasians like Darker and with Boobs.
Different strokes for different folks.
And 4, 000 is very acceptable for an overnight with Anal. And besides, She did not ask for anything, he did give her the 1, 000 tip so I guess he thought she was worth it.
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1107068]It is money very well spent. Not overpayment at all!
Guess you don't know / understand the concept of Mango / Tulip / Snow White/[b]Victoria[/b]. [/QUOTE]Victoria? The place on soi 39? It has the same M. O as Tulip and the likes?
Well, I learned something today.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1107066]Yeah, there was also that fat fuck that did her 5 times that day. But I did tried to rub out the leg cramp! Sorry![/QUOTE]Is this your idea of a Report? Come on. 5 times? Do Tell. .
Sounds good.
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1106927][b]300 baht a week[/b]? The minimum wage is currently 206 baht [b]per day[/b] In Bangkok! I guess that it is a typo in your case.
Some people here (I don't say that it is your case) don't know much about the local economics and I recommend everybody to have at least a look at the figures mentioned.
[url="http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/4504/ber2009p6.gif"]here[/url]
, for instance. It helps to keep things in perspective. [/QUOTE]True, thanks.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1107116]Is this your idea of a Report? Come on. 5 times? Do Tell. .[/QUOTE][url]Awww[/url], keep it in your pants! .5 short spurts are my standard M. O. For these joints. But she was having trouble keeping her eyes open due to the partying the evening before. But having to be a contortionist due to the immense girth of the wrong part of my body she got a bad leg cramp. Tried to rub it out and suggest walking a bit, but that seemed to only help a little bit.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1107115]Victoria? The place on soi 39? It has the same M. O as Tulip and the likes?
Well, I learned something today. [/QUOTE]You must have been sleeping when we had that pissing contest. The place is owned by two former flower shop specialists.
[QUOTE=Jbond;1106978]Men of means stay usually in their own environment and you will never see them running around Nana and in Pattaya, like the guys you see who have saved all year long to have some fun on a two week holiday...Men of means are exactly that, they have made their money because they understand value / the market place are aware of every cent / penny and are more risk averse. You mistake value for money and the changing face of Thailand as just a discussion about nickels and dimes.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily true.
Many men choose to live in Thailand, or make it their base of operations, because they value what it offers in terms of lifestyle. Some foreign "men of means" make Thailand their "own environment" not just because they can afford to, but because they want to. They also make their money here.
Some men who live in Thailand never go to Nana or Pattaya for P4P. Others just come here on holiday because they enjoy what Thailand offers, and can pay for the best it provides (e. g., hotels, nice beaches, good food, lovely companions, etc.).
Thailand is quickly changing. The standard of living is increasing and the quality of life is improving. Some of what I experience living here is on par, or exceeds, what I left in the west.
What you fail to understand that there are a number of western men who lack the necessary "means" to compete in the fast-changing global economy as the value of their local currency decreases, and the marketability of their skill set drops. These are the men who will stop coming to Thailand in the future. These are the men who quibble over a few hundred baht difference in the price they pay to get laid.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1107003]It's a lot more fun to travel to an exotic destination than to stay home in the cold and gray. The BMW will still be in the garage when you return, right? Pro, isn't that why you like the PI so much?[/QUOTE]I think your right on the money.
That aside, I'm with the cutest little camera-shy 20 going on 35 year old Japanese looking Thai girl from Rainbow 2 and she's giving me a phenomenal blow job and I'm whispering to her yea, yea, yea. After I come she says to me that if a muay thai heard me saying yea he would slap me! She said I should say "yes, yes, yes" instead. So, anyone know what yea means in Thai?
[QUOTE=Pita123;1107064]Good luck them. They live in a shrinking country with a stagnated economy which is ever so quickly losing its world importance. Give it 20-30 years and we'll all be mongering in Japan.[/QUOTE]This kind of post is a good illustration why so few Japanese mongers are on ISG. I did not expect ISG members to have pundits in predicting the word economical situation. Pathetic.
I don't know where you are heading from, but if it is from the west, you prophecy may actually become true earlier there than in Japan.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1107178]I think your right on the money.
That aside, I'm with the cutest little camera-shy 20 going on 35 year old Japanese looking Thai girl from Rainbow 2 and she's giving me a phenomenal blow job and I'm whispering to her yea, yea, yea. After I come she says to me that if a muay thai heard me saying yea he would slap me! She said I should say "yes, yes, yes" instead. So, anyone know what yea means in Thai? [/QUOTE]Well, before the Muay thai can slap you, he would have to be giving you a BJ. Or do you say "yea yea yea" to just about anyone? .
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1107204]Well, before the Muay thai can slap you, he would have to be giving you a BJ. Or do you say "yea yea yea" to just about anyone? .[/QUOTE]Good point. No doubt his girlfriend boasted of my sexual prowess.....
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1107003]It's a lot more fun to travel to an exotic destination than to stay home in the cold and gray. The BMW will still be in the garage when you return, right? Pro, isn't that why you like the PI so much?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jbond;1106978]Men of means stay usually in their own environment and you will never see them running around Nana and in Pattaya, like the guys you see who have saved all year long to have some fun on a two week holiday. I can assure you, something I do know about for my sins having acted on behalf of some truly wealthy people in their pursuit of beautiful women to play hide the sausage with. Without giving too much away, I was finding it more and more difficult to attract these people to where I was in South America and the Far East because of their own set ups. Men of means are exactly that, they have made their money because they understand value / the market place are aware of every cent / penny and are more risk averse. You mistake value for money and the changing face of Thailand as just a discussion about nickels and dimes.[/QUOTE]'Man of Means' need to travel more than you realize because they also have a known face and an image to protect.
It is a lot more fun to play around without worrying about someone recognizing your face or knowing who you are.
Smart 'Men of Means' will not touch any girl within their surrounding even if she is a 12 and lying naked with her legs spread.
LOS is a perfect hiding place for these people and they will find and over pay for quality.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1107171]Not necessarily true.
Many men choose to live in Thailand, or make it their base of operations, because they value what it offers in terms of lifestyle. Some foreign "men of means" make Thailand their "own environment" not just because they can afford to, but because they want to. They also make their money here.
Some men who live in Thailand never go to Nana or Pattaya for P4P. Others just come here on holiday because they enjoy what Thailand offers, and can pay for the best it provides (e. G, hotels, nice beaches, good food, lovely companions, etc.).
Thailand is quickly changing. The standard of living is increasing and the quality of life is improving. Some of what I experience living here is on par, or exceeds, what I left in the west.
What you fail to understand that there are a number of western men who lack the necessary "means" to compete in the fast-changing global economy as the value of their local currency decreases, and the marketability of their skill set drops. These are the men who will stop coming to Thailand in the future. These are the men who quibble over a few hundred baht difference in the price they pay to get laid. [/QUOTE]Let's get back to writing reports of distinction and the delights of what Thailand has to offer, as no voice of experience is going to impact on your view. Nor the facts or history, Thailand started off as a destination where GI 's could come and have much deserved R and R with female companionship at affordable rates. Which was then carried on by working men worldwide who could come and do the same giving light relief to their heavy work schedules at I repeat affordable rates in general.
As I said before you are free to pay as much as you like as long as you are happy. However, it is not just about you when you are part of ISG but also your fellow comrades in arms, who if they are new to the scene should be given some guidance on what is a fair price for them and for the lady involved and how that compares to other parts of the world. Throwing money at a situation is never the final solution and cannot hide the fact that "Money alone does not maketh the man."
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1107198]This kind of post is a good illustration why so few Japanese mongers are on ISG. I did not expect ISG members to have pundits in predicting the word economical situation. Pathetic.
I don't know where you are heading from, but if it is from the west, you prophecy may actually become true earlier there than in Japan. [/QUOTE]Bullshit. The reason there are so few Japanese mongers on ISG is that it is in English. They have their own boards in their own language and don't need ISG. I love traveling to Japan an am there a few times a year on business. Their population is at negative growth. Outside of Tokyo people have been in 'scared to spend' mode for a very long time. They continue their xenophobic ways such as no foreigners can be on company X premise for project Y because they are scared they may need to communicate in English. They are a country in trouble but unwilling to try to adjust. This doesn't negate the fact that the West is screwed, but some of the West has a greater willingness to reinvent itself.
As for your surprise that ISGers might opine on world economy, you may want to look around ISG. There is. Thai stock market forum here and many ISGers have a life which stretches beyond the end of our dicks.
[QUOTE=Jbond; 1107280]Let's get back to writing reports of distinction and the delights of what Thailand has to offer, as no voice of experience is going to impact on your view. Nor the facts or history, Thailand started off as a destination where GI 's could come and have much deserved R and R with female companionship at affordable rates. Which was then carried on by working men worldwide who could come and do the same giving light relief to their heavy work schedules at I repeat affordable rates in general [/QUOTE]Mr. Bond, I looked through your posts and while you certainly know Africa, I see very little about Thailand? You are correct, however, when you state that the ISG is a valuable guide for Thailand visitors with limited experience.
The Vietnam GI era you recall was long ago. America lost that war, and the foundation of the "farang" P4P scene remained in TH. As you wrote in a previous post, times are now quickly changing in TH. The western white male monger is in present danger of being eclipsed by a sea of diversity with newly acquired disposable income. But that does not mean the long established P4P industry is going anywhere soon.
As most people familiar with Thailand know, it is Thai men who command the lion's share of the quality working women in their country, as they have for centuries. Foreigners, (except for the free spending Japanese) , are mostly left with the women they will not touch.
Presently, I have a regular set of young women I can call at any time who will happily come over to my place at just about any time. I compensate my ladies with both money and gifts as I care for them as people, but unlike a man who selects his woman "by number," I am not guided by any prescribed "market rate." Price is rarely discussed, however, I do not overpay.
I have written many reports about my experiences here. Unfortunately, with no regret, I have little to report this holiday season, as I have a very nice woman from Mukdahan staying with me full time until after New Year's. After she returns home, my favorite "flower shop" lady from Nakhon Phanom will likely come to visit me in the early morning hours after her shift ends. And then, if I desire, there's the young lovely from Chaiyapoom, and the exotic beauty from Petchaburi. If at some point I choose to add another it is as easy as walking across the road and doing a few "interviews."
Please understand, to keep things in perspective, there is much more to enjoying life here in Thailand than paying a strange women 1500 baht for a quick fuck. Even a first time visitor can experience this if he so desires and makes minimal effort to learn the "ropes" a bit.
So, Mr. Bond, come and visit, find yourself a hot lady for a good price, and write a report of distinction that we all will enjoy.
Chok dee. Sawadee Pi Mai. Happy New Year!
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1107466]Bullshit. The reason there are so few Japanese mongers on ISG is that it is in English. They have their own boards in their own language and don't need ISG. I love traveling to Japan an am there a few times a year on business. Their population is at negative growth. Outside of Tokyo people have been in 'scared to spend' mode for a very long time. They continue their xenophobic ways such as no foreigners can be on company X premise for project Y because they are scared they may need to communicate in English. They are a country in trouble but unwilling to try to adjust. This doesn't negate the fact that the West is screwed, but some of the West has a greater willingness to reinvent itself.
Japanese are not willing to share valuable information with strangers, you cannot get very much from the Japanese equivalents of ISG in Japanese either. The most popular general bloggers' site is Mixi; many of which you cannot read unless you got the passwords from the bloggers. Japanese can be generous with friends in his group, but if you are not in, tough luck.
This mentality applies to Japanese P4P. Japanese men know they have a very wide range of women, from SE Asian looking ones to typically NE Asian ones, and from Afro-J girls to Eurasian ones, as well as offer the broadest range of services from image/cos play to eating excrements. They want to keep it to themselves as much and as long as possible. Some of them know the end is nigh, but they reckon they can probably keep it that way for another 10 years or so.
The eventual opening of Japan might not necessarily be a great news to the Western mongers, because Chinese from China, HK, Taiwan and even Singapore would be willing to pay high premium for Japanese women. In other words, regardless of the Japanese economy and shrinking population, the prices of Japanese women in P4P will likely to remain high if not edge a little higher due to the strong demand from Chinese men.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1107466]many ISGers have a life which stretches beyond the end of our dicks.[/QUOTE]Nonsense. It's the Opposite! Look at the poor treatment we got? We wanted to talk about something other than our dicks and got segregated to a sub-forum.
ISGers are not about what happens beyond the end of their dicks at all: if it ain't happening in Mango or Tulip, no one here gives a fuck.
Now, I didn't know Thailand had stock markets? Care to elaborate on the subject?
[QUOTE=Bluerose;1107489]The eventual opening of Japan might not necessarily be a great news to the Western mongers, because Chinese from China, HK, Taiwan and even Singapore would be willing to pay high premium for Japanese women. In other words, regardless of the Japanese economy and shrinking population, the prices of Japanese women in P4P will likely to remain high if not edge a little higher due to the strong demand from Chinese men.[/QUOTE]Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.
One good thing about japanese girls (well, those I have been with as I can't generalise) is that they are not affraid of doing things as a group (2 or 3 girls doing one guy).
I have Japanese Friends and they are very reliable guys, hard working, dependable and always willing to go drinking LOL
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1107512]Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.
One good thing about japanese girls (well, those I have been with as I can't generalise) is that they are not affraid of doing things as a group (2 or 3 girls doing one guy).
I have Japanese Friends and they are very reliable guys, hard working, dependable and always willing to go drinking LOL[/QUOTE]Yes, Japanese girls are indeed interested in trying white or black cocks, though the younger generations, say below 30, are less enthusiastic than the previous generations. That's right, they can do a guy with with one or two other girls, but lesbian sex is less common.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1107512]Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.[/QUOTE]Definitely, I have had a lot of fun with Japanese girls I've met in Thailand over the years. Girls who wouldn't want their friends back home to know they've shagged a foreigner are more likely to try it here- as they say "Tabi no haji wo kakisute- Dispense with shame when on a trip".
Hey guys, I'm heading to Thailand for the first time this week, starting with Bangkok and then probably Pattaya, Phuket, etc. I have two questions:
1. What are the most upscale hotels in Bangkok that are ok with patrons bringing girls back?
2. Which exact places in Bangkok are known to have the HOTTEST girls?
Also, same questions for Pattaya, Phuket and possibly Chiang Mai. Thanks guys! .
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey; 1107749]Hey guys, I'm heading to Thailand for the first time this week, starting with Bangkok and then probably Pattaya, Phuket, etc. I have two questions:
1. What are the most upscale hotels in Bangkok that are ok with patrons bringing girls back?
2. Which exact places in Bangkok are known to have the HOTTEST girls?
Also, same questions for Pattaya, Phuket and possibly Chiang Mai. Thanks guys! . [/QUOTE]Lucky
There are so many hotels in BKK that are upscale and all of them are ok with bringing girls back. As a matter of fact for your saftey they will get the girl's I'd card and call you from the lobby which is kool. How upscale, depends on how much you want to spend. Check out the hotel section and there is lots of advice.
A. B
[QUOTE=Asia Butterfly; 1107751]Lucky
There are so many hotels in BKK that are upscale and all of them are ok with bringing girls back. As a matter of fact for your saftey they will get the girl's I'd card and call you from the lobby which is kool. How upscale, depends on how much you want to spend. Check out the hotel section and there is lots of advice.
A. B[/QUOTE]No they are not all guest friendly. I have been extorted up to 700 baht just to have an extra girl in my room for a few hours. Short time?
There is a web site that will tell you and you can ask the hotel. Before you book. Bangkok tonight? Com.
T
[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1107816]No they are not all guest friendly. I have been extorted up to 700 baht just to have an extra girl in my room for a few hours. Short time?
There is a web site that will tell you and you can ask the hotel. Before you book. Bangkok tonight? Com.
T[/QUOTE]I know there are lists with girl friendly hotels, but I did not yet find one of hotels accepting more than one lady without covering a joiner fee. Just to give a start: at Adelphi Grande, Soi 41 they did not even give a inquisitive look when coming back with two ladies, whereas at Dynasty Inn, Soi 6, the night service came running after me to collect, I think. 500 or 600 Baht for the second lady. In Pattaya, I can for this issue recommend Soi 2 Inn.
[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1107988]I know there are lists with girl friendly hotels, but I did not yet find one of hotels accepting more than one lady without covering a joiner fee. Just to give a start: at Adelphi Grande, Soi 41 they did not even give a inquisitive look when coming back with two ladies, whereas at Dynasty Inn, Soi 6, the night service came running after me to collect, I think. 500 or 600 Baht for the second lady. In Pattaya, I can for this issue recommend Soi 2 Inn.[/QUOTE]Yes dynasty is listing as guest friendly but they have given me problems.
Nana hotel is friendly and no issues other then they want the girls I'd.
Penthouse on soi 15 above the kit kat go go bar. And sandy springs on soi 13 is totally guest friendly so far.
In Bangkok.
Some thing like the president? With other names also on soi 9 or close.
Look on web sites?
I will look up some of the other places I have stayed but better you ask if they charge for guests.
To me its a rude surprise when they jack you up.
I always rent the room for two people even if by myself.
Sandy springs I have brought six girls in one time and they spent the nite and no issues. Other then some of the girls.
Had to sleep on the floor.
[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1107988][b]Adelphi Grande, Soi 41[/b] they did not even give a inquisitive look when coming back with two ladies, whereas at [b]Dynasty Inn, Soi 6,[/b] the night service came running after me to collect, I think. 500 or 600 Baht for the second lady. [b]In Pattaya, I can for this issue recommend Soi 2 Inn[/b].[/QUOTE]He said Upscale. There is nothing upscale about the hotels you just mentioned.
We have a Special Thread for hotels, I suggest to read it first, all the info is there.
[QUOTE=George111;1106765]The Japanese are spoiling the girls with their over paying. It affects everyone out there trying to get a piece of ass. There should be some kind of regulation but that won't happen.[/QUOTE]Well george, I have over spent on girls, but you'll find if she's a hot attractive 20 year old then she expects more money, surely you would if you knew you could get more money out of something you did, and in 40 years time no man would be interested in you.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1107512]Yes, maybe, but no need to go to Japan to score with Japanese women. I have had a few while they were on Holidays in France and they were very keen to Try a white cock.
One good thing about japanese girls (well, those I have been with as I can't generalise) is that they are not affraid of doing things as a group (2 or 3 girls doing one guy).
I have Japanese Friends and they are very reliable guys, hard working, dependable and always willing to go drinking LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks, Nic, for bringing some common sense to this discussion.
Japanese girls travelling abroad are fair game, very willing, and definitively wilder than Western girls. Had the same experience as you with some in the UK.
Also, you don't look at ISG for advice on investment? What a pity, there are Economics Nobel pize winners on the forum, able to predict what the world willl look like in 20 years.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1108365]Also, you don't look at ISG for advice on investment? What a pity, there are Economics Nobel pize winners on the forum, able to predict what the world willl look like in 20 years.[/QUOTE]No need for me to listen to someone's crap about how the world will look like in 20 years. I already know that. I prefer a 40 years forecast. Anyone?
[QUOTE=Evianist;1082964]The "japanese only" policy of Thermae girls is pretty obnoxious. Tokyo itself is filled with hundreds of amazing sex clubs, none of which foreigners are permitted to enter. If that attitude starts infecting more clubs in Bangkok it will be pretty annoying.[/QUOTE]I thought it was mostly Koreans I saw at Thermae recently. A small sprinkle of Japanese but by far mostly Koreans. Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1108421]I prefer a 40 years forecast. Anyone?[/QUOTE]We can anticipate german sausages will still be on demand! .
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1108421]No need for me to listen to someone's crap about how the world will look like in 20 years. I already know that. I prefer a 40 years forecast. Anyone?[/QUOTE]I suggest investing in a serviceable small boat to get around. Bangkok will likely be inundated with several meters of water.
Why do you think they build all the new condos with multiple floors of car parking at the base?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1107481]So, Mr. Bond, come and visit, find yourself a hot lady for a good price, and write a report of distinction that we all will enjoy.
Chok dee. Sawadee Pi Mai. Happy New Year! [/QUOTE]Happy New Year to you and all fellow members at ISG. In between your time with various hotties and recounting your explots, in the quieter moments may I recommend some light reading. Lawrence Osborne's 'Bangkok Days' really is the definitive and realistic view of life in Thailand. Which I can associate with in my time living here. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1108444]We can anticipate german sausages will still be on demand! .[/QUOTE]LOL.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?
Mafiadorea, thai are not racist, you was in the wrong place in the wrong time, thai like money and money, no money they hate you, but in russia and ukraine they are very racist. You need to be carefull every where the samr in your home town. Play safe and smart nothing will happent to you.
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. ...I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]I'm a white man and can't speak to the underlying racism across an entire population in Asia (and sorry about that). What I will say is that I met many, many women who told me, unprompted, that they crave "chocolate" men! I had to laugh out loud, not having heard that term in a while. At a beer bar, Simon 2, in Patts a couple brothers passed by and were bombarded with cooing calls from the lasses, much more than the other punters. For a bit of fun I hollered "yoo hoo, sailor!" too. We all had a good laugh. I suppose my point is that you'll find that you will be adored by the ones who count the most. The girls!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1108579]LOL.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[/QUOTE]And I also hope that by then technology will sort out those damn single portion marmalade / jam lids in SEA. LMAO
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Most of the talk I have seen on the forums is very Indian-centric racism, not at all places but certainly some. That being said, other Indian contributors have come on and said they haven't had trouble but that they dress well and don't show up at Go-Go's in a t-shirt and shorts.
I think if you're worried about Racism make sure you're tidy and presentable when checking out the night life, I think it isn't right that some white gentleman can go around looking like crap and still get service. But it is what it is I suppose. If you don't like the vibe at a venue, go somewhere else. They lose in the end because they don't get your money. There's so many girls at a lot of these venues and while some may not want to go with a black guy others certainly will, you won't have a problem finding a girl that likes you (and you like in return). If a girl doesn't want to go with you, don't worry about it and don't get unhappy because that won't help anything. And you're on vacation! Why waste time being pissed eh? Just move on to another bird.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1108579]LOL.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[/QUOTE]Ha! And that makes you laugh? Hehehe.
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Look, I have been living here for some time now and can guarantee you: Thais ARE Racists, period. They don't like white people, they don't other Asians but they hate Blacks, Indians and Arabs. Hell, they even are racists towards dark skinned Thais!
I see this everyday in the BTS, whenever a Black man enters, Thais usually move (or try to move) far away.
You will be refused entry to many bars in Nana or Cowboy (the doorman will say: "Private Party"). And I have been with girls that absolutely hate Black or Arabs or Indian people. Such is life.
BUT, there are places and Bars that will have no problem with your Skin Color and there are Ladies that will really like to go with you.
If you want a Fuck-a-thon and be treated like a prince and adored by the Ladies, then Maybe Philippines is a better place.
[QUOTE=Jbond;1108472]Happy New Year to you and all fellow members at ISG. In between your time with various hotties and recounting your explots, in the quieter moments may I recommend some light reading. Lawrence Osborne's 'Bangkok Days' really is the definitive and realistic view of life in Thailand. Which I can associate with in my time living here. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Yup. Thanks for the book suggestion. I read a lot. I found a good interview with your recommended author. He hits a a few close nerves in his explanation of his incentive to write about Bangkok.
[url]http://www.worldhum.com/features/travel-interviews/interview-with-lawrence-osborne-bangkok-days-20090430/[/url]
An excerpt from this interview:
"Loneliness is my subject here, I think, far more than the sex trade. But the sex trade is about loneliness, too. It's part of the same thing. I don't think these guys who live there are obsessed with sex, because I don't think human beings are obsessed with sex in that way. We're all obsessed with sex, but not to the point where we just determine our whole life around it. I think that's a myth. It's more complicated than that. It has to do with how you deal with solitude, which gets worse as you get older. When you're young, in your 20s, you don't worry so much about loneliness. But in your 40s and 50s and 60s, you really worry about it. It starts to become a kind of critical thing."
Yet, living in Bangkok as an ex-pat, at least some people, is so much more than trolling for sex, for . Alex Kerr does a good job covering this in 'Bangkok Found: Reflections on the City. ' I was especially impressed how he addresses the constant change that becomes part of everyday life here.
An excerpt from the book:
"As usual, when people start talking about Thailand, you run into more and more complications, and it ends up in a muddle. Bangkok is like a 'thep phanom, ' a smiling angel with hands clasped in prayer above – and twirling leaves and vines below.
(and) Everything is negotiable."
Folks.
I aplogise in advance if I am not posting this in correct section.
I have been to Bangkok before but was with family so could not partake any action.
I plan to travel through BKK very soon and would be greatful if someone can please answer some of the following questions.
1. What do you recommend for someone who has no more than 30 hours available in BKK, has a hotel room but is not a bar kind of guy and does not drink etc? Where do I go to get "partners" for ST and LT?
2. How much (approx) am I looking to spend for LT (min. 5 hours) and ST (min. 1 hour)?
3. Do upscale hotels always charge an extra fee when one walks back with a "lady friend" during day or night?
4. Do most of girls in bars etc speak reasonable english so that one can discuss one's expected services such as anal etc?
5. Which bar (s) is best to quickly go in, take a pick and get going?
5. Are there any places which offer good, private, safe incalls? I don't want something like a busy brothal, but something that is safe and comparable to what we get in the west for incalls?
Thanks again for any imput.
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Racism exist everywhere in the world. It's no mystery. Only the extent and degree varies. Regardless. I have seen black men do very with the ladies in Thailand. These black men were ordinary, educated, successful, and respectful, American black men. Defense Contractors, Military Men, Law Enforcement Officers, Doctors, Lawyers, Dentist, etc. All vacationing Thailand. They were not professional athletes or celebrities. Rather they were normal american guys from places like LA, Chicago, Boston, NY, Houston, Atlanta, Seattle, Dallas, etc.
In fact some of the most incredible trip reports (with several pictures) I have read were trip reports written by black guys.
Also, when the US Military is in town (Phuket / Patong, Pattaya) , I have seen US Military blacks do well with the ladies. There are just so many women in Thailand, you won't have a problem meeting women and getting the girls you are attracted to. They tend to be the Thai girls who frequent the dance clubs and really like American Pop / R&B music and R&B / pop artist (like Usher, Akon, Chris Brown, etc.). Also the darker skinned, thicker athletic type Thai girls seem to go for the black guys.
As long as you are respectful, well mannered, presentable in appearance and hygiene. And you have cash, and know how to treat the ladies. You will have few problems with the ladies in Thailand. Just like Las Vegas, but better. Several Thai ladies told me that they like "Chocolate Man", and some even told me that they prefer "Chocolate Man". Years ago, that would have made a lot people extremely mad and upset. These days most people that show disdain for it it are other foreigners. So you might be mistreated and disrespected by other foreigners. I saw this happen to an American Black in Phuket but he was with a large number of US Military buddies (blacks and whites). Some Europeans and Americans vacationing in Thailand, are supremacist. So the resentment you will face from them is no different that what blacks have historically experienced in the US, and are already accustomed to in the US. You will be fine, just ignore any hatred or resentment you encounter, and move on to the next receptive lady that catches your eye.
Thailand has an infinite supply of women that keeps replenishing. Bonus: The mixtures are lethally hot (Euro / Asian, Black / Asian, and Indian / Asian, Chinese / Thai, Korean / Thai, Thai / Khmer, etc.) , and there are gorgeous women from all over SE Asia (Burma, Cambodia, and Laos) in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Mafidorea.
It depends on what you are refeering to. Obviously there are lots or women (mostly younger) that love African Americans and will tell you they love them while the older ones prefer White males but I beleive this is also frequent in other countries including USA.
In the P4P business it is always advisable to take your time and make eye contact in a line up and you will be able to tell which girl wants no part of you or really wants you, regardless of race. If you are stubborn and go for the hottest one and she is not into you, it will not be a good session.
Now when you are going to areas outside of the fun area, yes you might run into a bias based on generalization however my feeling is that, if you warm up to people, smile at them and respect their culture, you should have no problems.
Just my 2 cents.
A. B
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Bro,
Get your ticket and go! I went to Pattaya- Bangkok in November, no problems. If you continue to listen to other people as to who is racist and who is not, you will never experience the LOVE Thailand has to offer.
I read that same shit about the Phils, had a ball, AC- Manila.
[QUOTE=Oakwood99; 1108788]Bro,
Get your ticket and go! I went to Pattaya- Bangkok in November, no problems. If you continue to listen to other people as to who is racist and who is not, you will never experience the LOVE Thailand has to offer.
I read that same shit about the Phils, had a ball, AC- Manila. [/QUOTE]Just be personable, well presented and speak the American English, that will distinguish yourself from the native Africans who have usually given blacks a bad name, especially in BKK. OK you may run into a racist or two somewhere: if you don't let that get to you, then you will have a great time and will definitely not regret making the trip.
[QUOTE=Finrod;1108821]Just be personable, well presented and speak the American English, that will distinguish yourself from the native Africans who have usually given blacks a bad name, especially in BKK. OK you may run into a racist or two somewhere: if you don't let that get to you, then you will have a great time and will definitely not regret making the trip.[/QUOTE]Good point Finrod!
[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]I'm a white, American guy who has been to Thailand about 10 times, but admittedly I don't live there. Based on the posts from a number of African American guys on this site as well as the anecdotal evidence by hanging with some guys in BKK and Pattaya that happenned to be African American, I think if you are just basically a nice guy you will be fine. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist there. It exists everywhere. But I don't think it's too as great a degree as is often presented. Take Oakwood's advice and go! The more African American guys that go and are "nice" guys. The quicker the racism will disappear to a greater degree, in my opinion.
Have fun! I think you will be surprised that you will be fine! There's a lot of black guys who go and have a ball!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1108763]An excerpt from this interview:
"Loneliness is my subject here, I think, far more than the sex trade. But the sex trade is about loneliness, too. It's part of the same thing. I don't think these guys who live there are obsessed with sex, because I don't think human beings are obsessed with sex in that way. We're all obsessed with sex, but not to the point where we just determine our whole life around it. I think that's a myth. It's more complicated than that. It has to do with how you deal with solitude, which gets worse as you get older. When you're young, in your 20s, you don't worry so much about loneliness. But in your 40s and 50s and 60s, you really worry about it. It starts to become a kind of critical thing."
Yet, living in Bangkok as an ex-pat, at least some people, is so much more than trolling for sex, for. Alex Kerr does a good job covering this in 'Bangkok Found: Reflections on the City. ' I was especially impressed how he addresses the constant change that becomes part of everyday life here."
[/QUOTE]As with many Authors, his opinion is just generalising, and doesn't allow for immense variation in the character of sex-addicts.
There definitely are those whose entire trip revolves around screwing as much as possible and leaves little time to do other meaningful things. This especially applies to those lacking in good regular sex, all too many.
I have been in the endless screwing mode at times, although I tended to repeat with the very best girls, rather than try new ones all time. These days I have moderated. My trip may start with furious sex for first day or two and then drop off. I now believe there is no point to boring ordinary sex. Only fabulous girls or freebies (need not so fabulous).
But think of the famous Tansak KTV whose typical day might have involved 10-20 shots. Does one never get bored by it? :confused:
I can admit that I am a sex addict, but have it somewhat under control that I can go for weeks with no real sex, if placed in an undesirable country. I can work okay despite sex being a very significant part of my thinking and motivation. But in Thailand, we never need to miss out, except when under strict supervision by a "She who must be obeyed" (A term by "Rumpole of the Bailey". English TV). :(
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1108768]
[quote]2. How much (approx) am I looking to spend for LT (min. 5 hours) and ST (min. 1 hour)? [/quote]ST is usually over once you cum. If you want a longer ST, better negotiate with your lady beforehands. Just say you want a ST of 2 hours and cum as many time as possible. Price may be higher.
[quote]3. Do upscale hotels always charge an extra fee when one walks back with a "lady friend" during day or night? [/quote]No, Not always.
[quote]4. Do most of girls in bars etc speak reasonable english so that one can discuss one's expected services such as anal etc? [/quote]English isn't the major problem, even the ones that speak it well can pull a fast one. Let's say you agree on Anal, the girl in the bar will tell you yes, she loves it and all that stories. But once in the room, she will say your cock is too big, she has pain, she not feel well and all that sort of Crap.
[b]My advice to you[/b]:
1. Book your hotel in advance.
2. Call Mango (or email) that you want Miss Bo, or Cat, or Ice for the night.
3. When you arrive at your hotel, the girl should be waiting for you in the Lobby.
4. Fuck her as many times as you can, Blowjobs, Anal, the whole bits.
5. In the morning Pay her the 3, 000 overnight fee. And a tip in you want (I usually give more if they stay longer or have Anal)
The real best is to take 2 girls. For a mere cost of 2, 000 thb and they are real pornstars
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1108938][b]My advice to you[/b]:
1. Book your hotel in advance.
2. Call Mango (or email) that you want Miss Bo, or Cat, or Ice for the night.
3. When you arrive at your hotel, the girl should be waiting for you in the Lobby.
4. Fuck her as many times as you can, Blowjobs, Anal, the whole bits.
5. In the morning Pay her the 3, 000 overnight fee. And a tip in you want (I usually give more if they stay longer or have Anal)
The real best is to take 2 girls. For a mere cost of 2, 000 thb and they are real pornstars[/QUOTE]Everything the man says is spot on. I'd only add Bam to the list in item 2 and also suggest that you tell us what you mean by 'upscale' hotels. Some examples? But generally you should not have a problem.
NicFrenchy & Pita123.
Thanks a lot for your responses.
I also think that it may be better to have some local contact for providing me with lady friends than go to bars due to shortage of time. Can you please point me to the contact information of the two guys you have mentioned or of any other similar but reliable person?
By upscale hotel I simply meant not the seedy or small hotels. I stayed in a big high rise hotel last time and really liked the ambience etc. Plus the provacy it affords. Thats all.
Are there any recommendations for any incall places or is it best to dine out in the hotel itself?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1108938][QUOTE=Margaya; 1108768]ST is usually over once you cum. If you want a longer ST, better negotiate with your lady beforehands. Just say you want a ST of 2 hours and cum as many time as possible. Price may be higher.
No, Not always.
English isn't the major problem, even the ones that speak it well can pull a fast one. Let's say you agree on Anal, the girl in the bar will tell you yes, she loves it and all that stories. But once in the room, she will say your cock is too big, she has pain, she not feel well and all that sort of Crap.
[b]My advice to you[/b]:
1. Book your hotel in advance.
2. Call Mango (or email) that you want Miss Bo, or Cat, or Ice for the night.
3. When you arrive at your hotel, the girl should be waiting for you in the Lobby.
4. Fuck her as many times as you can, Blowjobs, Anal, the whole bits.
5. In the morning Pay her the 3, 000 overnight fee. And a tip in you want (I usually give more if they stay longer or have Anal)
The real best is to take 2 girls. For a mere cost of 2, 000 thb and they are real pornstars[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1108938]The real best is to take 2 girls. For a mere cost of 2, 000 thb and they are real pornstars[/QUOTE]Sorry, my mistake. Price is total 6, 000 for 2 girls for Overnight.
Check the hotel thread for lots of suggestions on hotels. Check out any of these massage shops and call them to make your booking the day before arrival. I don't think we can make it any easier for you than this though for a large fee I'll happily book your hotels and the massages for you.
[url]http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mangomassagebangkok.com/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.victoriamassagesoi39.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Pita123;1109161]I don't think we can make it any easier for you than this though for a large fee I'll happily book your hotels and the massages for you. [/QUOTE]Can you do shirts and pick up fresh "nam plao," too?
Found this bird last week, her name is Brenda from Tanzania, Some nice girls hanging around now and then, also some real dogs. These birds speak english and know how to please, also breaks up eating asian every night.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1109180]Can you do shirts and pick up fresh "nam plao," too?[/QUOTE]I can, but that will be extra.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1109142]Sorry, my mistake. Price is total 6, 000 for 2 girls for Overnight.[/QUOTE]Here I thought you were in cahoots with ThePro for a moment.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1109278]Here I thought you were in cahoots with ThePro for a moment.[/QUOTE]What exactly is he a pro of? I think the name "TheTourist" would be a much better fit for our old friend
[QUOTE=Apeman 28;1109204]Found this bird last week, her name is Brenda from Tanzania, Some nice girls hanging around now and then, also some real dogs. These birds speak english and know how to please, also breaks up eating asian every night.[/QUOTE]I have seen lot of black beuties around Bangkok everyone almost from African countries. I have never been bold enough to venture out with them just by being aware of fact that AIDS is highly prevailant in those areas and still with a condom on I won't be really able to do her with that thought in my mind.
BTW how much did you end up giving her for her services?
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1109362]Same thing happened with me last time I was there. All Rainbows acted up in same manner and would let me in.
I tried to understand the reason and they told me that Indians are not welcome. I felt sad to hear this and then he goes "You want go in pay 30000baht memmbership" and I was like LOL.
Neverthless I don't enjoy the go go scene much and there are many joints in BKK which welcome you with a smile if you have money in the wallet! You never know where you find what in Bangkok off the road, in the mall, in a bar, in a club or restraunt. But beware of Katoeys!
Cheerz[/QUOTE]Freelancers are also now very careful about indians and Arabs. It is widely knows (maybe a myth, but still) that 1 indian guy would take a freelancer to his rooms and 2 or 3 other guys would be there and they would all fuck the girl for the same price as quoted for 1 guy.
For the Arabs, it's different, many Freelancers also have stories of Arabs Hurting, or even killing girls (maybe another myth).
I have even seen Cupidy girls refuse Arabs. And we all know Cupidy caters to a lot of the Arab market (staying at the prince hotel or as it is close to soi 3-5)
I am just finishing up about a day and a half in Bangkok. Again great info on this site.
Hotel: Majestic Suites. Fairly nice place right where a bunch of action is.
As an FYI the girls I was looking for on this visit were one that provided A-level service so not the skinny 20yr olds I would normally look for.
Last night had Claudia come over from Bangkok hot escort dot com. She was reasonably close to the pictures, but the face may have been photoed a little and she may have been older than listed. Nice chest and pretty good figure. Did everything she advertised that I was interested in. Nice girl, english was fair. Pricey!
Today I read the site here again and decided to head down to mango massage. Went in there blind regarding girl so they asked me if I wanted Cheer. She had an okay body so I said yes. Man did I like this joint. Small little rooms, but the soapy shower and oil massage was awesome. She was open to what I was interested in including A-Level.
Later on I didn't want to go to the bars since I have to leave at 3am to the airport for a flight to Indo so I called mango back to see if Cherry or Bo were around. They were busy so I had Ice come over to the hotel. She told me she is from Laos. Nice girl, spunky and very friendly. She has a big chest if you are into that and her body okay. A little soft, but still was a lot of fun. Oil massage was pretty good, but not as good as Cheer. Again she provided A-level as well.
I will be back in a few weeks on my way back home so I will let you guys know about those I hook up with at that time. Might go back to the skinny 20s chicks at the bars though.
Ltr,
Wham.
Guys,
Don't take this african lady in Bangkok, first they force to work like prostitution, they give money to the pimp. And the 2 second is 98% of them have AIDS or HIV. Don't waste your time and your life for this, play your game but play it safe. They are near Nana and Asoke Station
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1109161]Check the hotel thread for lots of suggestions on hotels. Check out any of these massage shops and call them to make your booking the day before arrival. I don't think we can make it any easier for you than this though for a large fee I'll happily book your hotels and the massages for you.
[url]http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mangomassagebangkok.com/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.victoriamassagesoi39.com/[/url]
[/QUOTE]Actually the info above is precisely what I needed to know at least about the message parlours. Many thanks.
Now I just similar info about hotels and escort agencies and I am a happy camper.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1109420]Actually the info above is precisely what I needed to know at least about the message parlours. Many thanks.
Now I just similar info about hotels and escort agencies and I am a happy camper. [/QUOTE]What's your preferred condom brand?
We shall endeavour to' leave a packet at the MP's.
[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29;1109418]98% of them have AIDS or HIV.[/QUOTE]I am lucky then because the one I took a few years back didn't give me anything. Seriously, I mean, Freelancers are always a gamble and many of the Thai girls on these streets (Soi 3 to 5 and around soi 19) might have something.
I remember a story last year in the Bangkok Post where they interviewed this girl (Freelancer from Soi 5) and she said she Contracted AIDS from a customer, so now she does not care and still continue to screw guys. She Prefers Bareback sex because they cum quicker and she can go home. Anyway I am sure the story is still here if you look hard enough.
Thai Ladies also have STDs so they all are a gamble, especially on the streets where there is absolutely no control. At least the Bars and Massage places give us the Illusion that they run some Checks (they really don't but.)
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1109470]What's your preferred condom brand?
We shall endeavour to' leave a packet at the MP's.[/QUOTE]I will bring my own supply of condoms and generic viagara. Its just that there is so much info about Thailand and so little time that I asked for precise information.
Cheers
Went to Cowboy last night again. Inflated prices abound, but a good time was still had. Walked into Suzy Wong's. I am still surprised that they have that idiot coming on stage with his stupid fire show after the lesbian show. No one wants to see a dude on stage at a go-go bar. Anyway just like the rest of the soi, ST prices continue to be 2, 000 baht. They have rooms upstairs, and I offered one girl 1500 to go upstairs for an hour. No dice. She wanted 2, 000. My mate chatted up one of the waitresses; same story. They are obviously getting these ridiculous prices. Guys, don't pay this amount! I'd also like to know if anyone has negotiated down to 1500 ST on this soi recently.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1109489]I'd also like to know if anyone has negotiated down to 1500 ST on this soi recently.[/QUOTE]Depending on the time of negotiations. I hear around closing time. 1,000 ST can be had.
But then again, at that time of the night you might be ST #4 (meaning she already has 6k in her pocket)
1, 500 was the first price quoted to me by one of the prettier girls in Afterskool a few weeks back. I overheard another girl tell the guy she was sitting on "2, 500" and he seemed fine with it.
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1109364]I have seen lot of black beuties around Bangkok everyone almost from African countries. I have never been bold enough to venture out with them just by being aware of fact that AIDS is highly prevailant in those areas and still with a condom on I won't be really able to do her with that thought in my mind.
BTW how much did you end up giving her for her services? [/QUOTE]Horny, She started at 1500 but took 1000 for ST. A raincoat is a must, it's a gamble on both local and imported pussy.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1109489]Went to Cowboy last night again. Inflated prices abound, but a good time was still had. Walked into Suzy Wong's. I am still surprised that they have that idiot coming on stage with his stupid fire show after the lesbian show. No one wants to see a dude on stage at a go-go bar. Anyway just like the rest of the soi, ST prices continue to be 2, 000 baht. They have rooms upstairs, and I offered one girl 1500 to go upstairs for an hour. No dice. She wanted 2, 000. My mate chatted up one of the waitresses; same story. They are obviously getting these ridiculous prices. Guys, don't pay this amount! I'd also like to know if anyone has negotiated down to 1500 ST on this soi recently.[/QUOTE]Mangofan,
I couldn't agree more about the stupid fire show. Stinks the place out and not of any erotic interest. (its a fucking guy). They should at least get a nude girl to do it.
I don't agree with Nic. If the girl has made 6k already with 3 customers, she is more likely to increase her price, rather than drop it at the end of the night. Often girls will be very satisfied to have made 6K already and be feeling lazy.
The desperate girls with no money are more likely to drop their price.
Contrary to this, business has been well down for a while, so to compensate girls feel the need to agree that basic prices should increase.
Unfortunately you are probably stuck with the problem that the prettier girls know they can get 2K and so often won't come down. You are more likely to be able to negoiate down with the ugly ones lacking customers IMHO. .
For me, I am more than willing to pay 2K for a stunner, or at least hot body and good attitude. I don't want an ordinary girl for 1. 5K, as I don't want her at all. Some of us have not retired, still work OS for good money, and don't need to worry about a measely 500 Baht. We know full well that we cannot get this sort of bargain back home where we work.
Here you get long time for 3K+ which is only $100. To get a good girl all night back home, would cost a fortune, e. G. $500 minimum, and not even be worth thinking about.
I still find that girls believe I am experienced, knowledgable and generous and don't even need to discuss the price at all mostly.
P. S. There are still really cheap BJ bars around. Otherwise there is Pattaya or Phnom Phen.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1109470]What's your preferred condom brand?
We shall endeavour to' leave a packet at the MP's. [/QUOTE]Don't you have any advice about the best condoms? ;)
Hey guys,
Does Thread Search still work at all under the new forum setup? I seem to get a minimal selection of results in a seemingly random sequence, next to useless. :confused:
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1109364]I have seen lot of black beuties around Bangkok everyone almost from African countries. I have never been bold enough to venture out with them just by being aware of fact that AIDS is highly prevailant in those areas and still with a condom on I won't be really able to do her with that thought in my mind.
BTW how much did you end up giving her for her services? [/QUOTE]You will survive. Many on this forum are Africa mongers. Read the threads, educate yourself. MSM has done a thorough brainwash on Western society. I`m born and raised African. 39 years, fucked untold numbers, never once had a disease. Many, many African girls are far more hygienic and respectable than despicable Western women.
You are intrigued, allow yourself the pleasure of African girls. Very exciting they are. Frown.
Ill be in Bangkok soon for the first time and this site has given me awesome info. If I could just ask you a few follow up questions.
[b]My advice to you[/b]:
1. Book your hotel in advance.
DONE.
2. Call Mango (or email) that you want Miss Bo, or Cat, or Ice for the night.
DONE!
3. When you arrive at your hotel, the girl should be waiting for you in the Lobby.
What are the logistics here with the hotel. My hotel is listed as GF but 1400 for extra guest. Do I pay this before the girls get there. Who do I even pay?
Re: getting the girl (s) to leave IDs at the reception as has been advised here, do I initiate this or will the hotel just ask them for IDs.
4. Fuck her as many times as you can, Blowjobs, Anal, the whole bits.
WILL DO! .
5. In the morning Pay her the 3, 000 overnight fee. And a tip in you want (I usually give more if they stay longer or have Anal)
The real best is to take 2 girls. For a mere cost of 2, 000 thb and they are real pornstars[/QUOTE]That's the plan.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1109570]Hey guys,
Does Thread Search still work at all under the new forum setup? I seem to get a minimal selection of results in a seemingly random sequence, next to useless. :confused:[/QUOTE]It doesn't work for me either. I actually found references to a city in a forum and searched for it knowing it was there and got no hits on it. Also had a search list posts in weird non chronological order. It's worthless.
You are intrigued, allow yourself the pleasure of African girls. Very exciting they are. Frown. [/QUOTE]I agree with your praise of African girls. I've been with four or five over a few years on Suk. Like any other working girl, there are variations in appearance, attitude, and personal hygiene. I've had good experiences about 80% of the time. To generalize, I find them to be less reserved than other girls in the room and more enjoyable. Most are very concerned about hygiene and safe sex. They appreciate customers who feel the same way. I had one girl tell me she was offered 8, 000 baht in a bar to go bareback. She said compromising her life wasn't worth it.
I was too freaked out about aids the last time so only had happy ending massages. I know better now and have been to Indonesia, Medellin and the Philippines and am enjoying the scene here. I am staying at Livingstones and just got out of the pool after a full day of sightseeing. I love the thatched roof deck around the pool with highrises all around you. Especially while doing the breaststroke and watching all the hotties showing up for work in the Sports Bar. I've been to the Mansion in Medellin (which I can't recommend too highly) and Livingstones is just as good. Two proprietors who speak English (and German) and know the scene. The service is great (I needed some water that was boiled to flush out my sinuses which were stuffed and by the time I was done with my 1 PM breakfast it was waiting for me). The wireless was a little slow in my room so the front desk gave me an ethernet cable and it is just as fast as I am use to stateside. My new home away from home here in BKK.
O. K I'm sure you could care less about my sinuses. Giotto gave me his list of recommended MP's in the area (there are tons of girlie bars, MP's etc. All within walking distance) and I ended up at Mangos. Only three girls at the time I entered and fortunately one was the kind of LBFT I love. And she was all a man could ask for. She managed to wash my entire 6 foot body while simultaneously giving me a most enthusiastic BBBJ. Two hours of non stop fun (she wanted to prove she could get me hard twice in one session which at my age is quite a feat). She managed to do so which is a testament to her work ethic (or maybe the screams of pleasure from the girls in the other rooms motivated her).
As I paid my bill I saw several more great looking gals that must have been the ones screaming in the other rooms while I was occupied with my gal. Based on the sounds (and my gal) these girls seem to enjoy their work. If not they put on a hell of an act.
Now my problem is how to go back and pick a different piece of candy without disappointing my first. I guess I can just go to one of Giotto's other recommendations. Or just grab one of the many uber hotties stocked here in the Sports Bar. Oh I love these kinds of problems.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1109473]... I remember a story last year in the Bangkok Post where they interviewed this girl (Freelancer from Soi 5) and she said she Contracted AIDS from a customer, so now she does not care and still continue to screw guys. She Prefers Bareback sex because they cum quicker and she can go home. Anyway I am sure the story is still here if you look hard enough...[/QUOTE]I guess that you are referring to this story: [url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/27077/confessions-of-an-hiv-positive-prostitute[/url]
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1109570]Hey guys,
Does Thread Search still work at all under the new forum setup? I seem to get a minimal selection of results in a seemingly random sequence, next to useless. :confused:[/QUOTE]There have been indeed some problems with the search function in the past (I would say during about 2 or 3 weeks after the upgrade), but those were eventually solved some time ago and the search function is (apparently) working fine for me at the moment.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1109671]There have been indeed some problems with the search function in the past (I would say during about 2 or 3 weeks after the upgrade), but those were eventually solved some time ago and the search function is (apparently) working fine for me at the moment.[/QUOTE]I agree with Syzgies, I can't seem to figure out how to search just the thread I'm interested in, and when you get results it doesn't show you just the results, but the whole thread with highlights over what it found, which requires you to go through each individual page. Now, If I'm doing this wrong, please let me know, but I also think that it is right now next to useless.
[QUOTE=Ezcardpm;1109680]I agree with Syzgies, I can't seem to figure out how to search just the thread I'm interested in, and when you get results it doesn't show you just the results, but the whole thread with highlights over what it found, which requires you to go through each individual page. Now, If I'm doing this wrong, please let me know, but I also think that it is right now next to useless.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys, I just noticed the search thread button. When I've been looking for it over the last few weeks, I couldn't find it, but now it is there.
[QUOTE=Ezcardpm;1109681]Sorry guys, I just noticed the search thread button. When I've been looking for it over the last few weeks, I couldn't find it, but now it is there.[/QUOTE]There is also an "[url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php"]Advanced Search[/url]" function and you may select, among other criteria, the type of results that you want to obtain (show results as "reports", and not "threads", for instance), like it is shown in the attached picture.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1109489]I'd also like to know if anyone has negotiated down to 1500 ST on this soi recently.[/QUOTE]I got 1200 offered by a girl in Dundee bar last week. But I must admit they were asking a ridiculous 1000 barfine. Which they dropped to 800. So I paid 2000 for bar and girl together. 800 is still too much for the bar though.
[QUOTE=Nutty Smith;1109505]1, 500 was the first price quoted to me by one of the prettier girls in Afterskool a few weeks back. I overheard another girl tell the guy she was sitting on "2, 500" and he seemed fine with it.[/QUOTE]I paid 2500 longtime for an Afterskool girl last December. The prettiest one in my biased opinion.
[QUOTE=Mantid;1109640]Now my problem is how to go back and pick a different piece of candy without disappointing my first. I guess I can just go to one of Giotto's other recommendations. Or just grab one of the many uber hotties stocked here in the Sports Bar. Oh I love these kinds of problems.[/QUOTE]You will not disappoint the first girl. She may act like she is, but it is just a business decision on your part. I have done this many times
[QUOTE=Noddy; 1109595]You will survive. Many on this forum are Africa mongers. Read the threads, educate yourself. MSM has done a thorough brainwash on Western society. I`m born and raised African. 39 years, fucked untold numbers, never once had a disease. Many, many African girls are far more hygienic and respectable than despicable Western women.
You are intrigued, allow yourself the pleasure of African girls. Very exciting they are. Frown. [/QUOTE]Very well said bro.
Africans are hated here for a reason. In your case, you need to tell everybody straight away that you are American, then you should be fine.
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1108841]I'm a white, American guy who has been to Thailand about 10 times, but admittedly I don't live there. Based on the posts from a number of African American guys on this site as well as the anecdotal evidence by hanging with some guys in BKK and Pattaya that happenned to be African American, I think if you are just basically a nice guy you will be fine. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist there. It exists everywhere. But I don't think it's too as great a degree as is often presented. Take Oakwood's advice and go! The more African American guys that go and are "nice" guys. The quicker the racism will disappear to a greater degree, in my opinion.
Have fun! I think you will be surprised that you will be fine! There's a lot of black guys who go and have a ball! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Apeman 28;1109204]Found this bird last week, her name is Brenda from Tanzania, Some nice girls hanging around now and then, also some real dogs. These birds speak english and know how to please, also breaks up eating asian every night.[/QUOTE]What was the price? ST / LT? Thanks
Tookta is only working in Dollhouse when she feels like it. She does not need the salary as she has a few sponsors and always gets barfined when she turns up for work. Usually I just phone her or facebook her and most of the time she shows up on the agreed time, but not always. Her looks are perfect, especially the nomms but her performance is often lackluster.
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1103905]Walked into Dollhouse to close out the night. The hottie #8 was nowhere to be found so I went upstairs. Sat under a lovely piece of ass. Bought her a drink and made out and groped for a bit. It's quite dark upstairs but she's probably a 7. Again, she wanted 2, 000 baht and would not come down.
I've lived here for 4 years and have never paid more than 1, 500 for ST, even in high season, and unless she's a fucking supermodel, I'm not going to start. It seems that Thailand is not longer the cheap mongering destination it used to be. Or I may just have to stay away from the go-go scene until March. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Noddy;1109595]YMany, many African girls are far more hygienic and respectable than [b]despicable Western women.[/b][/QUOTE]Well that wasn't very nice.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1109489]Went to Cowboy last night again. Inflated prices abound, but a good time was still had. Walked into Suzy Wong's. I am still surprised that they have that idiot coming on stage with his stupid fire show after the lesbian show. No one wants to see a dude on stage at a go-go bar. Anyway just like the rest of the soi, ST prices continue to be 2, 000 baht. They have rooms upstairs, and I offered one girl 1500 to go upstairs for an hour. No dice. She wanted 2, 000. My mate chatted up one of the waitresses; same story. They are obviously getting these ridiculous prices. Guys, don't pay this amount! I'd also like to know if anyone has negotiated down to 1500 ST on this soi recently.[/QUOTE]. Say what? Am I allucinating or what? Are you saying that Thai punani goes for 2000 bath ST nowadays in BKK?
You mean two thousand motherfuckin' bath? Man, that's about 50 euros! 50 euro! Holy mackerel, how can you give 50 euro to a Thai bar beeatch in motherfuckin' Bangkok for god's sake. And for short time at that! A bit more than that is the price you have to pay in Germany in order to get some first class service provided by some of the finest pussy available period?
Well, I haven't been in Thailand for about two years now, and even last time I've been it wasn't like I had to fork out money to get some ass, but I remeber the going price was of about 1000 bath LT in Phuket. Never paid for pussy in BKK tho, but hey. This honestly sounds a bit too crazy, or rather stupid actually.
Bless
You will find that Asia and African women are far more "clean" and "hygenic" than Western women. Western women have got western men so much under the thumb that can afford to be unhygenic, fat, ugly, drunk cause they know back at home they will still get fucked.
[QUOTE=Noddy; 1109595]You will survive. Many on this forum are Africa mongers. Read the threads, educate yourself. MSM has done a thorough brainwash on Western society. I`m born and raised African. 39 years, fucked untold numbers, never once had a disease. Many, many African girls are far more hygienic and respectable than despicable Western women.
You are intrigued, allow yourself the pleasure of African girls. Very exciting they are. Frown. [/QUOTE]
Sadly as more stupid people visit Bangkok (or very ugly people) the more the girls get used to demanding higher rates.
I do not do "short time" in that I can go to an oily place, have a shower before and after, have a bit of a rubdown, have an excellent time with whatever is wanted and you know its great.
Long time I do do, but 2000 baht is all they get, which I have never had a problem with and they always want to come back again and pass on their number for easy contact and some I do take them a couple more times before I get bored, so they must be happy with it.
Sadly many Thailand internet forums are filled with bar owners. And they are defacto supporters of higher prices and saying its all "ok" as men coming to bars and drinking and taking girls is their business. They want people to come, not wanting people to realise how ripped off you are and stay away.
Always bear in mind that with Thailand forums many many of the people are bar owners (esp Pattaya). They have their own agenda of attracting business and saying everything is fine, good normal, not overpriced etc.
[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1110082]. Say what? Am I allucinating or what? Are you saying that Thai punani goes for 2000 bath ST nowadays in BKK?
You mean two thousand motherfuckin' bath? Man, that's about 50 euros! 50 euro! Holy mackerel, how can you give 50 euro to a Thai bar beeatch in motherfuckin' Bangkok for god's sake. And for short time at that! A bit more than that is the price you have to pay in Germany in order to get some first class service provided by some of the finest pussy available period?
Well, I haven't been in Thailand for about two years now, and even last time I've been it wasn't like I had to fork out money to get some ass, but I remeber the going price was of about 1000 bath LT in Phuket. Never paid for pussy in BKK tho, but hey. This honestly sounds a bit too crazy, or rather stupid actually.
Bless[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Pro;1110135]You will find that Asia and African women are far more "clean" and "hygenic" than Western women. Western women have got western men so much under the thumb that can afford to be unhygenic, fat, ugly, drunk cause they know back at home they will still get fucked.[/QUOTE]Well it depends on experience you have had to judge what is best. My experience wasnt good. Thrice, twice in Dubai and and once in India. It was nothing about disease but attitude and also hygeine specially the Ethopian I had in Dubai from York then made me wonder if its a general trend. Since then have stuck to CIS, European and Asian. Although I agree some Beauties in Black do get your harmones goin haywire.
[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1110082]. Say what? Am I allucinating or what? Are you saying that Thai punani goes for 2000 bath ST nowadays in BKK?
You mean two thousand motherfuckin' bath? Man, that's about 50 euros! 50 euro! Holy mackerel, how can you give 50 euro to a Thai bar beeatch in motherfuckin' Bangkok for god's sake. And for short time at that! A bit more than that is the price you have to pay in Germany in order to get some first class service provided by some of the finest pussy available period?
Well, I haven't been in Thailand for about two years now, and even last time I've been it wasn't like I had to fork out money to get some ass, but I remeber the going price was of about 1000 bath LT in Phuket. Never paid for pussy in BKK tho, but hey. This honestly sounds a bit too crazy, or rather stupid actually.
Bless[/QUOTE]Yes Bangkok is no longer the cheap mongering destination it once was. In Bangkok, the girls from the top go-gos (Tilac, Shark, Suzy Wong's, Baccara, Dollhouse, Angelwitch, Rainbow 4) will absolutely not go ST for under 2, 000 (believe me I have tried to get them to go for less. They won't!) And if you figure in all the prices, you have to ask yourself if it's better just to go to an soapy;
Short Time: 2, 000 baht (think 3, 000 baht for LT)
Barfine: 600 baht.
1 drink for you and her: 300 baht (minimum)
Short Time hotel: 300 baht (I live here and I don't bring bargirls back to my place)
Total damage: 3, 200 baht.
This total increases if you buy more drinks, visit several bars, etc.
To fuck a girl at Poseidon, the price (according to their website) starts at 2900 baht.
Galldarn that's fuckin' ridiculous. It's amazing how the prices have blown up in such a short time.
Evidently Thailand is too much of a mainstream destination not to be spoiled silly.
And about the bar owners on here saying it is ok to pay that much money, well I guess you have to be just as slithery a snake in order to survive in such a pathetic environment as the country is. LOL, as if I need anyone telling me that to reassure me that is ok to blow up fifty bucks in order to bust a nut on a nasty thai roach-ho. Amazing.
Bless
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110234]LOL, as if I need anyone telling me that to reassure me that is ok to blow up fifty bucks in order to bust a nut on a nasty thai roach-ho. Amazing. Bless[/QUOTE]I think you don't need reassurance of any kind from any of us. Please just crawl back into the hole that you came from. The Pro will be happy to come out and feed you when you are hungry. OK, mai.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110234]... LOL, as if I need anyone telling me that to reassure me that is ok to blow up fifty bucks in order to bust a nut ...[/QUOTE]You might have not noticed it yet, but nowadays, you get only (approximately) 30 baht for one US$, so, 2000 baht is almost 70 bucks, not 50. Ok, that's about 50 euros, but if I am not mistaken, you can't say "buck" for one euro in English.
Cheaper options are still available in Bangkok, for instance freelancers and P4P girls working in certain Thai-orientated establishments.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1109559]... Here you get long time for 3K+ which is only $100. To get a good girl all night back home, would cost a fortune, e. G. $500 minimum, and not even be worth thinking about...[/QUOTE]
Just remember that 3000 baht is about 35% of the national MONTHLY average wage in Thailand, so, 3000 baht here is equivalent to approximately US$1200 in the USA (when you compare the local average wages).
So, if you consider that 500 dollars is "a fortune" in the USA for a LT session, how about paying the equivalent of 1200 dollars in the Land of Smiles? I don't want to flame anybody here, but just put things in perspective once again.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/productinfo/common/img/img_eco2/pdf/EC301209E08.pdf[/url]
[url]http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/AWI.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1110188]Short Time: 2, 000 baht (think 3, 000 baht for LT)
Barfine: 600 baht.
1 drink for you and her: 300 baht (minimum)
Short Time hotel: 300 baht (I live here and I don't bring bargirls back to my place)
Total damage: 3, 200 baht. [/QUOTE]Wow, and in the meantime, Long time with a Mango girl coming to your Hotel and fucking you senseless is only 3, 000 baht total. Go figure
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110234]as if I need anyone telling me that to reassure me that is ok to blow up fifty bucks in order to bust a nut on a nasty thai roach-ho. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Quit the fucking Moaning Already! And get your facts right, you can get a great fuck for just about less than 10 Euros in some places in Thailand.
Come on now, If you come all the way to Thailand to cry about a few Euros for Prostitutes, then why not go closer to your home? I guess North America? Then go to Cuba or Jamaica
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1110262]Just remember that 3000 baht is about 35% of the national MONTHLY average wage in Thailand, so. 3000 baht here is equivalent to approximately US$1200 in the USA (when you compare the local average wages).
[/QUOTE]Relevant only for those that live here and earn Thai local salaries. For anyone else these stats are irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1110278]Relevant only for those that live here and earn Thai local salaries. For anyone else these stats are irrelevant.[/QUOTE]That's relevant because people are paying local P4P girls working and living in Thailand. When in Rome, etc. Don't you think that Nike inc. (for instance) or any international corporation, would pay its employees working abroad much more than the (minimum or even average) local wages because it would still be a bargain for them?
The federal minimum wage is US$7.25 per HOUR in the USA (according to Wikipedia). Americans pay about $100 for a pair of Nike shoes that a worker gets less than $3 a DAY to make in Indonesia (Thailand is already too much expensive for this company!). It would still be very advantageous for Nike to pay those workers in the third world or developing countries US$7.25 per day, for instance, but international corporations are not stupid nor philanthropic and they pay what is considered as normal or fair locally (sometimes a bit more, but not much).
That's why it is not very relevant for a punter to compare local P4P (and other) prices with what it would cost in his own country.
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1110289]That's relevant because people are paying local P4P girls working and living in Thailand. When in Rome, etc. Don't you think that Nike inc. (for instance) or any international corporation, would pay its employees working abroad much more than the (minimum or even average) local wages because it would still be a bargain for them?
The federal minimum wage is US$7. 25 per HOUR in the USA (according to Wikipedia). Americans pay about $100 for a pair of Nike shoes that a worker gets less than $3 a DAY to make in Indonesia (Thailand is already too much expensive for this company!). It would still be very advantageous for Nike to pay those workers in the third world or developing countries US$7. 25 per day, for instance, but international corporations are not stupid nor philanthropic and they pay what is considered as normal or fair locally (sometimes a bit more, but not much).
That's why it is not very relevant for a punter to compare local P4P (and other) prices with what it would cost in his own country. [/QUOTE]All these technicalities are indeed true, but are totally irrelevant to the visiting punter. What matters to him is to have a better deal than at home. If it costs me, just an example. 200 US to have, say, a 1 hour good massage with FS in my country, if I pay 70 elsewhere for the same, or even better service, , I am a happy man, whatever the minimum wages in the country. And, please don't lecture me on the " you are ruining it for us" crap.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1110240]I think you don't need reassurance of any kind from any of us. Please just crawl back into the hole that you came from. The Pro will be happy to come out and feed you when you are hungry. OK, mai.[/QUOTE]Excuse me? Where did YOU come out of? Are you one of those bar owners someone was just talking about perhaps?
[QUOTE=Goyave;1110255]You might have not noticed it yet, but nowadays, you get only (approximately) 30 baht for one US$, so, 2000 baht is almost 70 bucks, not 50. Ok, that's about 50 euros, but if I am not mistaken, you can't say "buck" for one euro in English.[/QUOTE]Yes I meant Euros, not Dollars. How much is the USD worth nowadays is not one of my concerns, and I didn't know you were this picky about semantics (the way I see it "buck" is just a generic way to call money, is not like the whole world starts and ends within the USA or the USD you know) , but anyways, I see it the same way as you when it comes to how much those skanks are asking, related to what is the cost of living / average wage in the country.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1110269]Quit the fucking Moaning Already! And get your facts right, you can get a great fuck for just about less than 10 Euros in some places in Thailand.
Come on now, If you come all the way to Thailand to cry about a few Euros for Prostitutes, then why not go closer to your home? I guess North America? Then go to Cuba or Jamaica[/QUOTE]Man where is all this bitterness coming from on this forum? In the end I was just looking at the pussy pic and happened to notice people talking at the prices they pay for it. I was honestly surprised, that's it.
BTW no, you guessed wrong, I'm from Europe. And no, it's not like I care much about Thai working girls and value-for-money when it comes to Thailand and I ain't crying shit, just pointing out that it's crazy to pay European prices to get third world sluts and that's it.
There is no need for any of you guys to get sweaty and shaking about someone voicing his opinion. Opinions are like assholes; everybody got one. It's not like I'm trying to tell you what to do with your money, who gives a fuck.
Bless
[QUOTE=Dreams;1110296]All these technicalities are indeed true, but are totally irrelevant to the visiting punter. What matters to him is to have a better deal than at home. If it costs me, just an example. 200 US to have, say, a 1 hour good massage with FS in my country, if I pay 70 elsewhere for the same, or even better service, , I am a happy man, whatever the minimum wages in the country...[/QUOTE]
Again, that's relevant even for the visiting punter. What is the difference between you and an international company employing (temporarily) local people? As a foreigner, it's understandable to pay a little bit more than a local for certain things, but not ridiculously higher prices.
Wouldn't you be an even happier man if you pay only 35 dollars instead of 70 because you know that 35 dollars is already a fair price in this country?
In my own country, I would pay for instance the equivalent of 500 baht for a som tam and I should be happy to pay "only" 250 baht in Thailand even if it actually costs only 25 baht for the locals?
It's no wonder why numerous Thai people think that most foreigners are stupid. Ignorance is bliss for some mongers, I suppose.
Paying a locally fair price is what most punters should do, because it's sensible economically, but also because the locals would respect us more then. Just do it! ;)
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110302]third world sluts[/QUOTE]You stick with the sluts and that'll leave the fine ladies to the rest of us.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1110303]In my own country, I would pay for instance the equivalent of 500 baht for a som tam and I should be happy to pay "only" 250 baht in Thailand even if it actually costs only 25 baht for the locals? [/QUOTE]It depends upon which restaurant is serving the locals. It doesn't cost 25 baht in Emporium restaurants and doesn't cost 200 baht in a small town in Issan.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1110304]You stick with the sluts and that'll leave the fine ladies to the rest of us.[/QUOTE]. Actually the one mongering in Thailand at the moment is you, not me. Oh yeah, but I'm sure you're surrounded of "fine ladies" tho. YAh yah. Sure.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1110305]It depends upon which restaurant is serving the locals. It doesn't cost 25 baht in Emporium restaurants and doesn't cost 200 baht in a small town in Issan.[/QUOTE]Yes, sure. But it was just a theoretical example and I could give many other ones about comparable products or services. The main point is that, as often as possible, one should pay a locally fair price for local goods or services, whatever the price for similar goods or service is in his or her own country. That's all, folks! Nothing scandalous, aberrant, nor very difficult, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110302]... Yes I meant Euros, not Dollars. How much is the USD worth nowadays is not one of my concerns, and I didn't know you were this picky about semantics (the way I see it "buck" is just a generic way to call money, is not like the whole world starts and ends within the USA or the USD you know)...[/QUOTE]
I made my previous remark just to avoid any confusion amongst the readers. English is not my native language, but while it's true that "buck" is sometimes "a generic way to call money" ("making a quick buck", for instance), once you quantify them ("ten bucks", for instance), it usually doesn't mean (as far as I know) a sum in euros, but in US dollars. Anyway, that's not the main point, I agree...
[QUOTE=Margaya;1109136]By upscale hotel I simply meant not the seedy or small hotels. I stayed in a big high rise hotel last time and really liked the ambiance etc.[/QUOTE]You can answer all of your questions by just reading what has been posted before. But since I'm in a festive New Year Mode, I'll suggest you search for my report in the Bangkok hotels forum on the Grand Millennium Hotel. If you are a fan of high rise hotels, the Grand Millennium is for you.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1110188]Yes Bangkok is no longer the cheap mongering destination it once was. In Bangkok, the girls from the top go-gos (Tilac, Shark, Suzy Wong's, Baccara, Dollhouse, Angelwitch, Rainbow 4) will absolutely not go ST for under 2, 000 (believe me I have tried to get them to go for less. They won't!) And if you figure in all the prices, you have to ask yourself if it's better just to go to an soapy; [/QUOTE]I have barfined a girl from every one of the gogos you mentioned for less than 2, 000 ST. Multiple times.
[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1110302]BTW no, you guessed wrong, I'm from Europe. And no, it's not like I care much about Thai working girls and value-for-money when it comes to Thailand and I ain't crying shit, just pointing out that it's crazy to pay European prices to get third world sluts and that's it.
There is no need for any of you guys to get sweaty and shaking about someone voicing his opinion. Opinions are like assholes; everybody got one. It's not like I'm trying to tell you what to do with your money, who gives a fuck. Bless[/QUOTE]And then there are misogynist asses with unoriginal opinions who troll and spam forums like this.
Of course, in Thailand, we say "why not?" Spam on little one.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1110440]I have barfined a girl from every one of the gogos you mentioned for less than 2, 000 ST. Multiple times.[/QUOTE]Really? Was this recently? Were they stunners? Give us more details, please.
[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1110302]Man where is all this bitterness coming from on this forum? In the end I was just looking at the pussy pic and happened to notice people talking at the prices they pay for it. I was honestly surprised, that's it.
BTW no, you guessed wrong, I'm from Europe. And no, it's not like I care much about Thai working girls and value-for-money when it comes to Thailand and I ain't crying shit, just pointing out that it's crazy to pay European prices to get third world sluts and that's it.
There is no need for any of you guys to get sweaty and shaking about someone voicing his opinion. Opinions are like assholes; everybody got one. It's not like I'm trying to tell you what to do with your money, who gives a fuck.
Bless[/QUOTE]It is not bitterness it is just a protest against stupidity and ignorance. Just the fact that you use the term "third world sluts" shows what kind of person you are. It is post like yours that make many other mongers and most of the girls sick of men actually. I bet you are a cheep racist pig in your private life. I really get pissed with the "third world sluts"! First time maybe that I use such language in the forum but I do this because really this "third world sluts" is one of the most racist and disrespect things I've read in this forum.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1110466]Really? Was this recently? Were they stunners? Give us more details, please.[/QUOTE]If you read the forum, almost every post regarding price will tell you the same thing.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110307]. Actually the one mongering in Thailand at the moment is you, not me. Oh yeah, but I'm sure you're surrounded of "fine ladies" tho. YAh yah. Sure.[/QUOTE]Ahh. Actually. Yes, I am.
[QUOTE=Lifeingr;1110467]It is not bitterness it is just a protest against stupidity and ignorance. Just the fact that you use the term "third world sluts" shows what kind of person you are. It is post like yours that make many other mongers and most of the girls sick of men actually. I bet you are a cheep racist pig in your private life. I really get pissed with the "third world sluts"! First time maybe that I use such language in the forum but I do this because really this "third world sluts" is one of the most racist and disrespect things I've read in this forum.[/QUOTE]Fully agreeing!
Still to be proved Thailand is a third world.
Still to be proved that thai girls are worst than european girls.
The guy should have had his mouth shut!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1110517]... Still to be proved Thailand is a third world.[/QUOTE]
So, he should have written "developing country sluts"? :confused:
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1110517]...The guy should have had his mouth shut![/QUOTE]
It would not prevent him to type on his keyboard. :D
Only kidding here, of course! ;)
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1110302]Man where is all this bitterness coming from on this forum? In the end I was just looking at the pussy pic and happened to notice people talking at the prices they pay for it. I was honestly surprised, that's it.[/quote]Look, you will have people pay all kinds of prices for all kinds of Pussies. In the end, what matters is that you get what you wanted and paid a price you seemed ok with. No one is having a gun to people's head forcing them to pay a certain price, like in all business transactions, prices are discussed and both parties agreed.
The Bitterness towards you is not really directed on how you handle your money but rather your poor choice of words when describing the Thai Hookers: "Third world Sluts" or "Nasty Thai Roach Ho". Yes, they are prostitutes, but human beings as well. Paying for their services does not give you the right to disrespect them or feel superior.
If you want people to treat you with respect, you need to be a little more tactful.
[quote]There is no need for any of you guys to get sweaty and shaking about someone voicing his opinion. Opinions are like assholes; everybody got one. It's not like I'm trying to tell you what to do with your money, who gives a fuck.[/QUOTE]It's not about you voicing your opinions, it's the 17 year old "Ghetto" or "Sk8terboy" language you use to express yourself, I think most of us Adults have trouble with people using profanity and degrading others they feel superior too just because they were fortunate enough to have been born with better conditions.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1110470]If you read the forum, almost every post regarding price will tell you the same thing.[/QUOTE]So I'm lying? Why would they be charging me 2, 000 and others less? It's high season. I highly doubt that many stunners in the go-gos are going for less than 2, 000. It's been a common trend for a few months now. Maybe you got less a few months back during low season.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1110570]So I'm lying? Why would they be charging me 2, 000 and others less? It's high season. I highly doubt that many stunners in the go-gos are going for less than 2, 000. It's been a common trend for a few months now. Maybe you got less a few months back during low season.[/QUOTE]2000 ST and 3000 LT seems to the going rate with the great-looking girls (including a fantastic waitress from Suzy Wong's who got the same price from me last month) in the Soi Cowboy gogos. Worth every baht. Let's leave the guy alone on the pricing. And if you can do better, pat yourself on the back and smile.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1110537]If you want people to treat you with respect, you need to be a little more tactful.[/QUOTE]I'd put it differently. If you want to be treated with respect, you need to treat others with respect. There is no reason to be disrespectful towards working girls. Don't forget that most of them would not have chosen this life for themselves.
[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1110082]. Say what? Am I allucinating or what? Are you saying that Thai punani goes for 2000 bath ST nowadays in BKK?
You mean two thousand motherfuckin' bath? Man, that's about 50 euros! 50 euro! Holy mackerel, how can you give 50 euro to a Thai bar beeatch in motherfuckin' Bangkok for god's sake. And for short time at that! A bit more than that is the price you have to pay in Germany in order to get some first class service provided by some of the finest pussy available period?
Well, I haven't been in Thailand for about two years now, and even last time I've been it wasn't like I had to fork out money to get some ass, but I remeber the going price was of about 1000 bath LT in Phuket. Never paid for pussy in BKK tho, but hey. This honestly sounds a bit too crazy, or rather stupid actually.
Bless[/QUOTE]This was your original post responding to the topic of paying? You shouldn't be surprise of others being sensitive since you started the criticism with words like " motherfuckin / crazy / stupid " you got what your deserve. Personally if you haven't been to Thailand in two years I just don't know how you can respond the way you did and debate over how much is the price. If I commented on prices in Germany and I haven't been there in two years I should expect to be ripped apart.
From reading the language and phrases used they are definitely American and you identify yourself as a European makes me wonder? I have a request for you, can you change your handle slightly, Littletruth, since I have a patent on Little already maybe a suggestion like Halftruth?
Thanks, LBM
I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in a week and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? Also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1110466]Really? Was this recently? Were they stunners? Give us more details, please.[/QUOTE]Seriously, does it matter?
Question for all.
Would you pay for a stunner who is a starfish, or rather have a plain Jane who can fuck your brains out?
What is the obsession of the punters who keep demanding contact info of the stunners (pictures of them never published). Are you that desperate that you can't pick up one yourself. My stunner may not be your stunner and vice versa. Look at the pictures being posted. How many are stunners from your perspective?
And price. I don't care what the other people pay. If you can't negotiate the price to your satisfaction, then tough luck.
[QUOTE=Clyde Drexler;1110651]I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in a week and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? Also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?[/QUOTE]Send a pm to either Jerome Kersey or Terry Porter, both seasoned vets are in town.
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1110535]So, he should have written "developing country sluts"? :confused:
It would not prevent him to type on his keyboard. .
Only kidding here, of course! . [/QUOTE]Lmao! Very good point the second one!
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1110611]2000 ST and 3000 LT seems to the going rate with the great-looking girls (including a fantastic waitress from Suzy Wong's who got the same price from me last month) in the Soi Cowboy gogos. Worth every baht. Let's leave the guy alone on the pricing. And if you can do better, pat yourself on the back and smile.[/QUOTE]2000 ST is not the going rate. 96% of girls will go for 1500 ST. If you get a girl who refuses to drop below 2000, she either 1) doesn't want to go with you personally or 2) only wants guys she can really milk. You're only likely to find these girls in Baccara and maybe Tilac or one of the rainbows. In either case, you should be moving on to the next girl. If you don't, you will be overpaying for a girl who will give you a poor performance.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1110662]Send a pm to either Jerome Kersey or Terry Porter, both seasoned vets are in town.[/QUOTE]I heard they travel as a threesome, usually Cliff Robinson tags along too. Hope they all don't plan on getting in one of those old songthaws?
LBM
[QUOTE=Evianist;1110728]2000 ST is not the going rate. 96% of girls will go for 1500 ST. If you get a girl who refuses to drop below 2000, she either 1) doesn't want to go with you personally or 2) only wants guys she can really milk. You're only likely to find these girls in Baccara and maybe Tilac or one of the rainbows. In either case, you should be moving on to the next girl. If you don't, you will be overpaying for a girl who will give you a poor performance.[/QUOTE]It IS the going rate, at least for me! And I'm not always going for the stunners. I've even asked the average-looking ones and they still want 2, 000 baht ST. I even asked an older girl in Shark who had stretch marks. She wanted 2k. Over the last 2 months I have offered 1500 for ST to at least 10 girls from different bars around Nana and Cowboy. None of them would go for under 2k! I live in BKK, and my mates who frequent these bars have reported the same. Even the plain-looking waitresses want 2k.
I'm not bad looking. I'm average, quite tall, and I don't mind buying a girl a drink or two before I (or she) discusses the barfine. One girl in Shark was even begging me to barfine her a few weeks ago as she was groping me and kissing me. She still wouldn't go for under 2k, though!
I finally gave up on all of it this past Friday night and decided to check out the discos. But the bastard police closed them all at 2 am! So I went over to Nana carpark and found a slim little thing who was quite cute (about a 7). She wanted 1, 000 but agreed to go for 500. What a bargain! Service was fine.
I'm not a tourist; I've lived here for 4 years so I know how to negotiate with bargirls. But they have all put the refusal policy in place. In my experience, none of them are willing to go for under 2k. You might be able to negotiate later in the night around closing time, but by that time most of the good looking ones have been barfined.
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1110799]It IS the going rate, at least for me! And I'm not always going for the stunners. I've even asked the average-looking ones and they still want 2, 000 baht ST. I even asked an older girl in Shark who had stretch marks. She wanted 2k. Over the last 2 months I have offered 1500 for ST to at least 10 girls from different bars around Nana and Cowboy. None of them would go for under 2k! I live in BKK, and my mates who frequent these bars have reported the same. Even the plain-looking waitresses want 2k.
I'm not bad looking. I'm average, quite tall, and I don't mind buying a girl a drink or two before I (or she) discusses the barfine. One girl in Shark was even begging me to barfine her a few weeks ago as she was groping me and kissing me. She still wouldn't go for under 2k, though! [/QUOTE]Yes they always say 2000 ST as their opening price, but then when you counter with 1500 they almost always accept.
Would be interested to hear if anyone else is getting wide-ranging refusals to go under 2000. If so, maybe it's some kind of coordinated effort or push they're making this high season? Last year during high season I didn't have any trouble getting 1500.
If not, you might just be spending too much time in Baccara and Tilac.
[QUOTE=Clyde Drexler;1110651]I am a newbie going to be in Bangkok in a week and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. Anyone have any suggestions of how I can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? [/QUOTE]Why get two hotel rooms? Your wife along?
The typical way is to put them in a taxi, hop in, and direct the taxi driver to your hotel. Once you arrive at the hotel you have her get out with you. As you walk into the hotel you walk her to the elevator. If approached by security allow them to discuss with the lady and she may hand over her I'd. She knows the drill. In many cases they won't ask for the I'd. They may simply ignore you or they may rush over to push the elevator button for you depending on the property.
Hi does anyone know if the Marriott on the river is girl-friendly.
Thanks
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1110636]I have a request for you, can you change your handle slightly, Littletruth, since I have a patent on Little already maybe a suggestion like Halftruth?
Thanks, LBM[/QUOTE]Ha! Nice one this. And may I ask you sir, based on which grounds have you been granted the patent on "Little"? I mean, there must be a good reason! .
(just kidding; I don't really want to know that!)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1110537]Look, you will have people pay all kinds of prices for all kinds of Pussies. In the end, what matters is that you get what you wanted and paid a price you seemed ok with. No one is having a gun to people's head forcing them to pay a certain price, like in all business transactions, prices are discussed and both parties agreed.
The Bitterness towards you is not really directed on how you handle your money but rather your poor choice of words when describing the Thai Hookers: "Third world Sluts" or "Nasty Thai Roach Ho". Yes, they are prostitutes, but human beings as well. Paying for their services does not give you the right to disrespect them or feel superior.
If you want people to treat you with respect, you need to be a little more tactful.
It's not about you voicing your opinions, it's the 17 year old "Ghetto" or "Sk8terboy" language you use to express yourself, I think most of us Adults have trouble with people using profanity and degrading others they feel superior too just because they were fortunate enough to have been born with better conditions. [/QUOTE]Ok, I see your point and you're pobably right. Even tho, no hard feelings hey. But technically speaking, Thailand IS a third world country (yes, I see that "developing country" would be a politically correct alternative) ; and also, the words "sluts" and "hookers" happen to be SYNONYMS. But thanks for the tip anyways.
Also, the demeaning words used where just to emphasise the point of view expressed; but seeing the reaction those words provoked among my fellow unnecessairly-capitalised-adult forum members, I'll try and refer to Thai sex workers as if some of you guys picked a wife out of that bunch.
I trust that'll be respectful enough.
Bless
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1110804]Why get two hotel rooms? Your wife along?
The typical way is to put them in a taxi, hop in, and direct the taxi driver to your hotel. Once you arrive at the hotel you have her get out with you. As you walk into the hotel you walk her to the elevator. If approached by security allow them to discuss with the lady and she may hand over her I'd. She knows the drill. In many cases they won't ask for the I'd. They may simply ignore you or they may rush over to push the elevator button for you depending on the property. [/QUOTE]If a 5 Star Hotel, they may also guide you over to the reception counter where you will need to hand over 500 baht or thereabouts for the priviledge of bringing them into such a fine establishment. That can be a little awkward as respectable guests swirl about. There are plenty of Short-time hotels in Bangkok if you want a basic quickie or low-budget hotels to use as a secondary place to do your deeds.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1111078]If a 5 Star Hotel, they may also guide you over to the reception counter where you will need to hand over 500 baht or thereabouts for the priviledge of bringing them into such a fine establishment. That can be a little awkward as respectable guests swirl about. There are plenty of Short-time hotels in Bangkok if you want a basic quickie or low-budget hotels to use as a secondary place to do your deeds.[/QUOTE]I only stay at big intl chain 4-5 stars and have never yet paid such a fee.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1110399]You can answer all of your questions by just reading what has been posted before. But since I'm in a festive New Year Mode, I'll suggest you search for my report in the Bangkok hotels forum on the Grand Millennium Hotel. If you are a fan of high rise hotels, the Grand Millennium is for you.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Thanks Bunky, will go thru your reports.
I tried to search reports on what happened to the girls, that were working at the "Black Pagoda" in Patpong, after the change in management, but was not successful.
Does anyone know?
Aw, wish I had seen this before I left for BKK a couple of weeks ago. Anyway, I did thoroughly enjoy Afterskool: Walked in, was immediately attacked by two cuties who demanded drinks, which the mamasan wanted too. I refused the mamasan repeatedly until she went away, no harm done. Halfway through the ladydrinks the cuties suggested we go to the naught boys corner, which was less secluded than I had thought. Anyway, they pulled my pants all the way down, even unbuttoned my shirt. For all practical purposes I was naked in the bar. The girls undid their tops and there was kissing and fondling of breasts while they took turns sucking my cock BBBJ style. All this while in a reasonably packed bar with other people about two feet away. A different experience for sure. Fun fun. Highly recommended.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1098884]You don't know this place? OMG it is a MUST Try in Thailand.
Basically, you go in and immediately get attacked by its Stench, but being a fighter, you make your way to a sofa / seat and girls Join you. You buy them cheap 60thb whisky and they will do anything you want, in the bar. HJ, BJ, FS.
After a few drinks, the place and its seediness grows on you and you can't help but feel more and more at home. A pair of tits in your face, a mouth on your dick and a sloppy Grin on your face. Think of Wild Country as a bigger version of the Naughty Boy Corner@Afterskool in Cowboy.
Girls aren't that great looking but let's say an hour in this place with drinks for 2 ladies and tips can be about 1, 000 thb. Cheap, cheap. [/QUOTE]
Hi,
I am planning a trip and I am trying to decide if I should just stay in Bangkok or go to Pattaya also or just go to Pattaya.
I am reading the FF but what would I miss by just staying in Bangkok for 8 or 9 days vs splitting it up?
Again I am reading and there is so much info but any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Pita123;1110804]In many cases they won't ask for the I'd. [/QUOTE]That, in my opinion is Wrong. Whether or not they have a Joiner fee, they always should get the girls I'd card. They should do it for YOUR security, so that, in the event where you pick a Freelancer that happens to give you a drug and rob you out of your money. Well, they don't let her out the hotel unless they called you first to make sure all is ok.
[QUOTE=Lordpap; 1111008]Hi does anyone know if the Marriott on the river is girl-friendly.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Answer is here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels[/url]
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1111078]If a 5 Star Hotel, they may also guide you over to the reception counter where you will need to hand over 500 baht or thereabouts for the priviledge of bringing them into such a fine establishment. [/QUOTE]I remember once bringing a girl to a hotel in Samui (a 5 star hotel) and they politely told me that my girl's company was free until 7am. If the lady happened to leave after 7 then they would charge me 5, 000thb.
I realised after this that the only reason they were doing that was to prevent all the dumb Farangs from bringing their purchased ladies to Breakfast, where Families and Kids were eating.
[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon; 1111411]Hi,
I am planning a trip and I am trying to decide if I should just stay in Bangkok or go to Pattaya also or just go to Pattaya. I am reading the FF but what would I miss by just staying in Bangkok for 8 or 9 days vs splitting it up? Again I am reading and there is so much info but any advice is appreciated. Thanks[/QUOTE]Visit both. Lots of fun to be had. Different experiences, lots of pretty women.
A good taxi driver can get you door-to-door, BKK to Pattaya (or vice versa), in just a little over 90 minutes (rush hours excepted). Take the Chonburi toll way. It's worth it. You might even start your trip in Pattaya, and end it in BKK. Only one hour from the airport this way. Pattaya parties late onto the night (basically all night) , too.
I recommend picking your hotels carefully, though, as this can determine a lot in terms of your overall experience (whether you take women back to your room LT, or not).
Read back in the forum, then ask some specific questions. Lots of experts here!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1111446]That, in my opinion is Wrong. Whether or not they have a Joiner fee, they always should get the girls ID card. They should do it for YOUR security, so that, in the event where you pick a Freelancer that happens to give you a drug and rob you out of your money. Well, they don't let her out the hotel unless they called you first to make sure all is ok.[/QUOTE]Right or wrong, they don't always ask for the I'd. You and I agree on the value of them grabbing the ID. I've walked girls over and had them give the ID, but normally I feel comfortable and safe with the girls I take, though I don't normally do freelancers.
[QUOTE=Lordpap; 1111008]Hi does anyone know if the Marriott on the river is girl-friendly.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes, it's girl-friendly. Very good hotel and it's a heritage building
[QUOTE=Lordpap; 1111008]Hi does anyone know if the Marriott on the river is girl-friendly.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Marriott on the river is girl-friendly.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1111586]Right or wrong, they don't always ask for the I'd. You and I agree on the value of them grabbing the ID. I've walked girls over and had them give the ID, but normally I feel comfortable and safe with the girls I take, though I don't normally do freelancers.[/QUOTE]Yes, if the girl is from a respectable Bar or a girl you have taken before, then no worries.
From a hotel's point of view, asking for I'd can also be tricky, can you imagine a Farang walking in with his Thai wife and the security asking her for I'd? Hahahahaha
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1111594]Yes, if the girl is from a respectable Bar or a girl you have taken before, then no worries.
From a hotel's point of view, asking for I'd can also be tricky, can you imagine a Farang walking in with his Thai wife and the security asking her for ID? Hahahahaha[/QUOTE]We did have the poster who took his wife to the Nana Hotel and the sent her I'd off to the coppers to be registered as a working girl. 555
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1111520]Last edited by Fon Tok; Today at 08:02. Reason: Jackson, why does your new format make so many dumb auto-edits????[/QUOTE]
I agree that the new auto-editing program could be better configured. Anyway, there is a quick and easy solution to circumvent it.
Just before submitting your report, you select all the text (CTRL+A), copy it (CTRL+C) in the computer clipboard and click on the [Add Report] button.
Immediately after that, you edit your report that you have just posted (click on the [Edit Post] button), select all the (automatically edited) text (CTRL+A) and paste instead the previous version (the one before automatic editing) that is still in your computer clipboard (CTRL+V). That will replace the automatically edited version by your initial text. Then, save the changes.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1110799]It IS the going rate, at least for me! And I'm not always going for the stunners. I've even asked the average-looking ones and they still want 2, 000 baht ST. I even asked an older girl in Shark who had stretch marks. She wanted 2k. Over the last 2 months I have offered 1500 for ST to at least 10 girls from different bars around Nana and Cowboy. None of them would go for under 2k! I live in BKK, and my mates who frequent these bars have reported the same. Even the plain-looking waitresses want 2k.
I'm not bad looking. I'm average, quite tall, and I don't mind buying a girl a drink or two before I (or she) discusses the barfine. One girl in Shark was even begging me to barfine her a few weeks ago as she was groping me and kissing me. She still wouldn't go for under 2k, though!
I finally gave up on all of it this past Friday night and decided to check out the discos. But the bastard police closed them all at 2 am! So I went over to Nana carpark and found a slim little thing who was quite cute (about a 7). She wanted 1, 000 but agreed to go for 500. What a bargain! Service was fine.
I'm not a tourist; I've lived here for 4 years so I know how to negotiate with bargirls. But they have all put the refusal policy in place. In my experience, none of them are willing to go for under 2k. You might be able to negotiate later in the night around closing time, but by that time most of the good looking ones have been barfined. [/QUOTE]Well I am quite a bit surprised why we would argue the going rate anyway. We all know that ST / LT rates can vary on many things and numbers being reported in this forum should be taken as a guideline rather than a pricelist.
Being blessed with living in Thailand like fellow Mangofan I still have to wonder why he had / has to make these experiences (that none of the bg would accept a ST fee below 2000Bht) as I would have to agree with the other members 1500 seems to me the ST going rate, at least that is what I have to pay whenever I take a girl from one of the Soi Cowboy bars.
Cheers
Hello,
Have spent nearly a week in Bangkok now and have tried a few places. Okey, I am a business traveller so I don't live here and I don't spend 4 months a year here so spare me any rude, stupid comments on what I did wrong and how much too much I paid. I know I have paid too much, but a lot like me only come in for a few nights and then difficult to know mongering scene.
1. Started week with visits to Mango and Snow white soap massage. I would say, fairly limited line of girls, but very friendly and superb service at both places. Girl at Mango, average looks, really came hard (actually focused on her joy, nice!) and had a hard time letting me fuck her since her clit was so sensitive. Girl at Snow white, fairly pretty and skinny, was a sucker for anal and was super friendly and polite. I like that.
2. Tried a call girl from some website when hungover. Big mistake. Don't do that in Bangkok. Expensive and unnessary considering supply of sex.
3. Soi Cowboy, Tilac. Quite a number of pretty girls actually. Chatted for a while with a sexy girl. She had a friend there and they had chemistry. Decided to go with both, promised that they would enjoy each other. This was a mistake however. Paid to much, double barfine + 2000 each for girls. They obviously faked their kissing. Mega turnoff! I decided to cum quick so I could get them out of the room.
4. BarSu at Sheraton. Had dinner and drinks at Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit. Supernice, but expensive. Went to their trendy bar BarSu with excellent drinks and setting. Met a freelancing model whom I chatted with and had a couple of drinks with. English flawless, extremely hot. She was expensive, but worth every penny! Stayed whole night and paid for own breakfast!
Pete
I will be in Bangkok next month, can anyone recommend which is the best area in Bangkok, Nana Plaza, Patpong or Soi Cowboy?
There is debate here about pricing so I wonder which of the three districts gives the best value? I am also trying to figure out a place to stay and wonder what is the norm in Bangkok, do you just head back to the hotel room or go to a short time hotel like a motel?
Finally are there of the bars that have in house accommodation, so you could spend like an hour or two and then leave avoiding the hotel and short time hotel situation? Forgive me for the questions I am a newbie to Thailand so have alot to learn about the scene there!
My suggestion is to find a lace off Sumkumvit. It will be close to all you want. Also try Bangkok 2 night sight. Put the words together for the name. They have a section with a lot of information on rooms with the bars and other helpful information.
Otherwise just go back and read this thread. Much info to be had here also.
[QUOTE=Winthorp; 1112108]I will be in Bangkok next month, can anyone recommend which is the best area in Bangkok, Nana Plaza, Patpong or Soi Cowboy?
There is debate here about pricing so I wonder which of the three districts gives the best value? I am also trying to figure out a place to stay and wonder what is the norm in Bangkok, do you just head back to the hotel room or go to a short time hotel like a motel?
Finally are there of the bars that have in house accommodation, so you could spend like an hour or two and then leave avoiding the hotel and short time hotel situation? Forgive me for the questions I am a newbie to Thailand so have alot to learn about the scene there! [/QUOTE]Some people prefer Soi Cowboy and others prefer Nana Plaza. But no one prefers Patpong.
It's probably best to get a hotel in sukhumvit and take the girls back there. You can also take them to short time hotels right in Cowboy or Nana, but I find it a little more fun to take them back to my place.
[QUOTE=Piddelin; 1112067]Hello,
4. BarSu at Sheraton. Had dinner and drinks at Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit. Supernice, but expensive. Went to their trendy bar BarSu with excellent drinks and setting. Met a freelancing model whom I chatted with and had a couple of drinks with. English flawless, extremely hot. She was expensive, but worth every penny! Stayed whole night and paid for own breakfast!
Pete[/QUOTE]I have been a couple of times at the BarSu at the Sheraton but it was always quite empty. At what time did you get there and found this model type of girl? What was the price for LT you paid?
Met Oe at a small street bar stall on the corner of Asoke / Sukhumvit near Cowboy. She's full of life, chatting, joking, moving about, drawing in customers. Had a drink there a few times.
Met her one morning as the bar closed and she was buying breakfast. She joked that I needed a girl, I replied that I was looking but only if it was her. Pause, then agreed to ST nearby.
Phew. Those pigtails give an innocent look that is not the reality. Tall, slender, muscular stomach, AA breasts and huge nipples, looong back that arched up as she loved doggy style and leaning against the wall, in fact she loved everything and was a very enthusiastic GFE. Very proud of her bright daugher. She insisted on sharing her breakfast and chatting after an energetic two hours, longer than either of us had anticipated but both of us had enjoyed and prolonged the time.
Sanuk.
SO8
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1110803]Yes they always say 2000 ST as their opening price, but then when you counter with 1500 they almost always accept.
Would be interested to hear if anyone else is getting wide-ranging refusals to go under 2000. If so, maybe it's some kind of coordinated effort or push they're making this high season? Last year during high season I didn't have any trouble getting 1500.
If not, you might just be spending too much time in Baccara and Tilac. [/QUOTE]During high season a lot of girls will say NO unless you offer at least 2000st. As soon as the tourists go the girls are easier to deal with. High season is horrible if you're on a budget and like hot chicks!
this is my first trip to bangkok, but i have a pretty clear picture of what i want to do thanks to all the reports. this is what happened on the first day:
annie's: decided to start easy and went to annies around 13:00 and the selection was, well, not that good. the expensive girls looked no better than the cheap girls in the fishbowl, just more makeup. took a girl from the fishbowl with a cute face and fake tits. she was a bit shy and was embarrased over her stretchmarks (except for that she had a great body). i didn't care about that so we took a bath and then she soaps me on the mattress with her body and it all ends with me coming over her tits and face. she then gave me a half decent massage for half an hour before i decided to leave as i was dead tired after a long flight. she suggested a bj before i left, but i declined. maybe i'll try annies another time, but my first impression was not that great.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]: on my way back to the hotel i discovered that i live about 50m from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (soi 8). my hotel is adelphi suites which is gf. what the heck, i walked on in and took the second girl that was offered to me. don't choose a girl outside if you are uncertain. the line-up was not that great, but who cares? it's about oral skills, right? well, i bought a coke and up we went. several of the stalls were occupied and some of the guys legs were sticking out beneath the curtains. sucking sounds, gagging and moaning helped up the atmosphere. man, this was as dirty as i expected and i got a hard on before she opened her lips. her orals skills were good and she took it all the way licking my balls and light rimming. i came hard down her throath and someone cheered and clapped when i roared. well worth the 700 bath! i'll consider having a bj here everyday during my nine day stay.
i'll meet a friend / colleague later and what we'll do i don't know yet (maybe some disco's or soi cowboy)
This Friday night, the Bangkok police closed Soi Cowboy down just before 1:30 they also closed Bangkok Beat disco on Soi 7/1 The result was that the normal Sukhumvit Road. Post 2PM circus was dead. Looks like the managed to scare off all but the most hard-core girls. Will be interesting to see if the trend continues. Some of these bars are owned by Thai Army Generals, so it probably won't go on too long.
[QUOTE=Piddelin; 1112067]Hello,
Have spent nearly a week in Bangkok now and have tried a few places. Okey, I am a business traveller so I don't live here and I don't spend 4 months a year here so spare me any rude, stupid comments on what I did wrong and how much too much I paid. I know I have paid too much, but a lot like me only come in for a few nights and then difficult to know mongering scene.
1. Started week with visits to Mango and Snow white soap massage. I would say, fairly limited line of girls, but very friendly and superb service at both places. Girl at Mango, average looks, really came hard (actually focused on her joy, nice!) and had a hard time letting me fuck her since her clit was so sensitive. Girl at Snow white, fairly pretty and skinny, was a sucker for anal and was super friendly and polite. I like that.
2. Tried a call girl from some website when hungover. Big mistake. Don't do that in Bangkok. Expensive and unnessary considering supply of sex.
3. Soi Cowboy, Tilac. Quite a number of pretty girls actually. Chatted for a while with a sexy girl. She had a friend there and they had chemistry. Decided to go with both, promised that they would enjoy each other. This was a mistake however. Paid to much, double barfine + 2000 each for girls. They obviously faked their kissing. Mega turnoff! I decided to cum quick so I could get them out of the room.
4. BarSu at Sheraton. Had dinner and drinks at Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit. Supernice, but expensive. Went to their trendy bar BarSu with excellent drinks and setting. Met a freelancing model whom I chatted with and had a couple of drinks with. English flawless, extremely hot. She was expensive, but worth every penny! Stayed whole night and paid for own breakfast!
Pete[/QUOTE]I agree escorts in BKK is a NO NO for me too. Too expensive and really not worth the service when you have no supply constraint on the street.
For freelancers I generally hit the clubs such as Bossy, CM2 (Personal favorite) , Bed, etc where the quality is good but rates are ranging from 3500-6000Baht depending on your negotiation skills and if your mind is controlling you and not Johnny! This is not comparable to SOI COWBOY or NANA in terms of rates but I somehow prefer the quality and have had hit jackpoits over years since I have been frequenting the place!
As for massages the places you went to are good and again girls take pride in satisfying you. I prefer Love Teen Massage though where again quality of service is good and enjoyable.
[QUOTE=Winthorp; 1112108]I will be in Bangkok next month, can anyone recommend which is the best area in Bangkok, Nana Plaza, Patpong or Soi Cowboy?
There is debate here about pricing so I wonder which of the three districts gives the best value? I am also trying to figure out a place to stay and wonder what is the norm in Bangkok, do you just head back to the hotel room or go to a short time hotel like a motel?
Finally are there of the bars that have in house accommodation, so you could spend like an hour or two and then leave avoiding the hotel and short time hotel situation? Forgive me for the questions I am a newbie to Thailand so have alot to learn about the scene there! [/QUOTE]No PATPONG for sure its not the same quality anymore.
You can stay someplace in middle of Sukhumvit say SOI 11to SOI 15. Both cowboy and nana are close by using the sky train.
If you hotel is GF you can get the girl up and they generlly keep her I'd until she leaves and depending on what you have finalized it could be either LT or ST with the girl! Happy Mongering!
Was in Bangkok before Christmas for a couple of nights. I ended up working on the first night so made an effort to get out on the second.
Went to Gullivers for some food and a few beers. Thought I might head over to Nana later on to see what was happening. Anyway, I was just about to finish my beer and head out of Gullivers when the barman put a beer in front of me and said that it was courtesy of the the girl across the bar. She seemd nice and I waved her over but she shook her head. I thought fair enough and continued drinking. I was about to finish this when the barman plonked another one in fornt of me, this time with a note. She asked if she could sit with me. I of course said OK.
Her name was Porn and she was a little cracker. We chatted and seemed to hit it off. She had had a few drinks and was chatting away. I told her that I would finish up and head back to my hotel. She asked if she could join me. I said of course. No mention of money yet and no indication that she was a pro either.
Back in the hotel we started kissing then the clothes came of quickly and I got in some DATY. She loved it and returned the favour with a quality BBBJ. She seemed to really get into it with lots of porn star slurping and moaning. She ended up begging me to come in her mouth, which I did. She sucked my cock dry. Amazingly good experience.
We chatted for a while then she started playing with my cock again. Ended up giving me another BBBJ and again begged me to come in her mouth. She swallowed 2 loads no problem.
After that she showered and left. No money exchanged hands. Great evening!
Part two of my trip to BKK consisted of taking a gal from Mango to Krabi as per Giotto's recommendation (staying at Livingstones Lodge). He said quality is poor there and I am glad I took his recommendation. In case anyone is thinking of going to a place with limited mongering, shop around. Mango massage charges 3K a day barfine. One of the places on Soi 33 only charges 1. 5K for weekdays and if you find a freelancer that is going to be the cheapest way to go. I had no time to shop around and the chemistry was great with the gal from Mango so I paid through the nose.
Left Krabi a couple of days early, dropped my and my gals luggage off at Livingstones (great having Livingstones as my home away from home here in BKK) and went to visit Kanchanburi where my Mango gal is from. Spent the night at her mom's house (no sex allowed with mom around) where mom cooked a feast for the extended family. Next day her step dad drove us all around for sight seeing. Nice twist to my trip ending up at a MP girls family compound, gambling after dinner with her cousins. Got to see a little of the home life of a WG.
Went to Snow White to check out another MP. They changed to a non sexy uniform of slacks and a shirt so you can't really check out the goods. Nonetheless my pick did a fine job when the uniform came off.
Going to try another of Giotto's recommendations for a traditional Thai massage. It's great having someone who can give you recommendations and point you in the right direction. Can't say enough about the service at Livingstones. Everything here is within 10 minutes of the front door. MP's, Skytrain, a slew of girlie bars on the same street. Very convenient.
But think of the famous Tansak KTV whose typical day might have involved 10-20 shots.
Where is this possibly fine establishment?
[QUOTE=AussieDoug; 1114045]But think of the famous Tansak KTV whose typical day might have involved 10-20 shots.
Where is this possibly fine establishment? [/QUOTE]Sorry, Tansak KTV was the handle of a Forum member.
He was became known for his torrid schedule of fucking girls, despite supposedly having time to do some business in Thailand. Unlike mere mortals, he did not seem to require rest periods between his shots. He would just keep going, but have to switch girls after they were exhausted.
I don't know about you guys, but I get complaints from girls, if I try to keep screwing them for more than 45 mins without breaks.
YSMV (Your size my vary).
[QUOTE=Mantid; 1114030]Part two of my trip to BKK consisted of taking a gal from Mango to Krabi as per Giotto's recommendation (staying at Livingstones Lodge). He said quality is poor there and I am glad I took his recommendation. In case anyone is thinking of going to a place with limited mongering, shop around. Mango massage charges 3K a day barfine. One of the places on Soi 33 only charges 1. 5K for weekdays and if you find a freelancer that is going to be the cheapest way to go. I had no time to shop around and the chemistry was great with the gal from Mango so I paid through the nose.
[/QUOTE]Yes. Each time I went to Krabi, I took a girl with me. The general standard of girls at Krabi bars is not that high, although one or two were reasonable. A hot Mango girl would make an ideal partner if can afford it. But watch out. You might get hooked on the girl.
[QUOTE=Mantid;1114030]Part two of my trip to BKK consisted of taking a gal from Mango to Krabi as per Giotto's recommendation (staying at Livingstones Lodge). He said quality is poor there and I am glad I took his recommendation. In case anyone is thinking of going to a place with limited mongering, shop around. Mango massage charges 3K a day barfine. One of the places on Soi 33 only charges 1. 5K for weekdays and if you find a freelancer that is going to be the cheapest way to go. I had no time to shop around and the chemistry was great with the gal from Mango so I paid through the nose.[/QUOTE]You paid 3K a day just for the barfine? Ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1114059]Yes. Each time I went to Krabi, I took a girl with me. The general standard of girls at Krabi bars is not that high, although one or two were reasonable. A hot Mango girl would make an ideal partner if can afford it. But watch out. You might get hooked on the girl.[/QUOTE]I agree Krabi really sucks. Defintely a poor mongering location.
Barely acceptable if somewhere else.
Definetely not acceptable being in Thailand!
[QUOTE=Piddelin; 1112067]Hello,
Have spent nearly a week in Bangkok now and have tried a few places. Okey, I am a business traveller so I don't live here and I don't spend 4 months a year here so spare me any rude, stupid comments on what I did wrong and how much too much I paid. I know I have paid too much, but a lot like me only come in for a few nights and then difficult to know mongering scene.
1. Started week with visits to Mango and Snow white soap massage. I would say, fairly limited line of girls, but very friendly and superb service at both places. Girl at Mango, average looks, really came hard (actually focused on her joy, nice!) and had a hard time letting me fuck her since her clit was so sensitive. Girl at Snow white, fairly pretty and skinny, was a sucker for anal and was super friendly and polite. I like that.
<cut [/QUOTE]Its always good to try various options to find out what you like.
Just a correction though. You haven't yet tried a Soapy Massage place.
The 2 MPs you mentioned are known as "Oilies".
Soapies are a completely different style.
Suggest you try at least one of Nataree, La Belle, Infinity JC, Annies (as a start) , or all of them.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1114060]You paid 3K a day just for the barfine? Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Most likely it is the estimated loss of business for the venue if the girl goes away for a day.
Obviously it is not to be taken for granted she will make the place earn all that money from herself, but it is on the assumption she will.
I agree it is a lot of money, but probably equals 10 customers for the day that she would service.
Whether this is the reality or not it is another matter.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1114063]Most likely it is the estimated loss of business for the venue if the girl goes away for a day.
Obviously it is not to be taken for granted she will make the place earn all that money from herself, but it is on the assumption she will.
I agree it is a lot of money, but probably equals 10 customers for the day that she would service.
Whether this is the reality or not it is another matter. [/QUOTE]
You can pay a gogo girl's barfine of only 600 / baht per day and take her to krabi. She might not even want much money on top of that if you get along well. She'll just look at it as a free vacation.
With a freelancer you might do even better.
[QUOTE=Bored In Beijing; 1113948]Was in Bangkok before Christmas for a couple of nights. I ended up working on the first night so made an effort to get out on the second...........
After that she showered and left. No money exchanged hands. Great evening! [/QUOTE]Wow. Nearly unbelievable (but why should you lie? You won't get richer by doing so here. :) )
At the beginning I thought she was just investing a couple of beers for a much larger return! LOL.
Or was something hanging out of your large bermuda when you were sitting there and that she noticed? LMAO
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1114065]You can pay a gogo girl's barfine of only 600 / baht per day and take her to krabi. She might not even want much money on top of that if you get along well. She'll just look at it as a free vacation.
With a freelancer you might do even better. [/QUOTE]I agree but here we are talking about a massage girl.
The earning a massage girl can provide to an MP are larger than those of a bar girl.
An MP needs a massage girl: no girl = no massage.
A bar doesn't necessarily need a bar girl! . : no girl, customer will still dring (if we don't account for the attraction factor a girl provides for a bar)
In a pinch, even the 600 for a bar girl are "overpay" (do not take me wrong I am not flaming on the subject) in a perspective of what she can produce for the establishment (assuming the "lost business" is the reason for the bar fine)
It is a long way for a bargirl to make the 600 or so by her share off customer drinks.
Usually there is a bit for the girl in the barfine.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1114067]I agree but here we are talking about a massage girl.
The earning a massage girl can provide to an MP are larger than those of a bar girl.
An MP needs a massage girl: no girl = no massage.
A bar doesn't necessarily need a bar girl! . : no girl, customer will still dring (if we don't account for the attraction factor a girl provides for a bar) [/QUOTE]Sure Mango can charge 3K for a barfine if they want. What's ridiculous is that a forum reader was willing to pay that.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1114066]Wow. Nearly unbelievable...[/QUOTE]
I would have said "hard to swallow" (pun intended) in these circumstances, but apparently, it was not really difficult... at least for his provider! :D
Gents,
I'm in BKK and going to Phuket on Saturday and from then to Ko Phi Phi and Ko Lanta. Was wondering whether I should I bring a girl with me from Bangkok or is the talent good enough and prices not crazy to find a good one in Phuket to take with me to these islands? Would appreciate tips and suggestions from the more experienced gents in here.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1114072]Sure Mango can charge 3K for a barfine if they want. What's ridiculous is that a forum reader was willing to pay that.[/QUOTE]What's ridiculous is that you believe you can say waht others should do with their money. :confused:
Those on strict budgets need not read this. Some of us are mongering every day.
Its typical for some Farangs to go on some packaged holiday to an Island with accomodation, meals and drinks included for $350 per person per day. The problem is that sex with a really hot girl is not thrown in.
So supposing I guy thinks his dream girl is one costing 3k Baht per day for Mango and another 4k for the girl.
He organises good priced accomodation meals and drinks, and gets out it for way less than the first scenario, but has unlimited sex with his dream girl. Maybe he can afford it for just a few days of his dream holiday.
Each to his own. I would do it given the right dream girl. In the end, its not all about getting girls for the cheapest possible price. Its more about the quality of life for your special holiday. So why not get your dream girl, for this special time. It won't break the bank. We aren't talking about every day of the year.
[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1114080]Gents,
I'm in BKK and going to Phuket on Saturday and from then to Ko Phi Phi and Ko Lanta. Was wondering whether I should I bring a girl with me from Bangkok or is the talent good enough and prices not crazy to find a good one in Phuket to take with me to these islands? Would appreciate tips and suggestions from the more experienced gents in here.
Thanks. [/QUOTE]You can definitely find a girl in Phuket. But if you found a girl in Bangkok you really liked, that wouldn't be a bad option either.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1114089]What's ridiculous is that you believe you can say waht others should do with their money. :confused:
Those on strict budgets need not read this. Some of us are mongering every day. [/QUOTE]I never said what anyone should do with their money. I simply said it's stupid to pay a 3K / day barfine when you can get a girl just as good for 600 baht / day (gogo girl) or nothing a day (freelancer)
It has nothing to do with budget. It's more like why would you buy a hamburger for $25 when the same hamburger is being sold next door for $5.
What are the current opening / closing hours of bars in Soy Cowboy or similar?
[QUOTE=Evianist;1114072]Sure Mango can charge 3K for a barfine if they want. What's ridiculous is that a forum reader was willing to pay that.[/QUOTE]Fully agreeing on this!
One can demand, the other does not have to take it.
3k for a bar fine is like paying to sit at the table and no food included, not even a glass of water, jsut a nice view of the menu!
I miss Craigslist a lot. Met many great girls there and want to know where you guys are finding them now. Thanks.
Bangkok ahead! This time I'm going to try really kinky fun ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], anal, strap-on). Is there any option / girl which you can recommend? I've tried Eden before but it didn't work for me.
If someone is looking for nuru massage, only one option I found in Bangkok is Colonze. Akane parlor doesn't provide tora-tora massage.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1114060]You paid 3K a day just for the barfine? Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Sure 3K a day is way too much and I'm sure with a little time to shop around anyone can do much better. I didn't have time to shop around and had great chemistry with the gal there so I decided to splurge. An extra few hundred dollars doesn't mean much to me when I am spending 4K or more on my Asia trip. Had a great time and consider the expense worth it. Will do it cheaper next time. But the point is if you are going to Krabi (and are passing up Phuket) , you will have to bring someone with you because there isn't a good mongering scene there.
[QUOTE=Tabasco72; 1114302]Bangkok ahead! This time I'm going to try really kinky fun ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], anal, strap-on). Is there any option / girl which you can recommend? I've tried Eden before but it didn't work for me.
If someone is looking for nuru massage, only one option I found in Bangkok is Colonze. Akane parlor doesn't provide tora-tora massage. [/QUOTE]Stay away from barbar in patong and the other place past soi cowboy on one of the sois of sukhumvit.
Its all phony and just very expensive.
Have not met a real girl there yet into kink but have seen some advertise. So they must be there.
Barbar in patong is big rob. They will steal you blind that is there kink. They pretend and do a bad job of it.
Better to try and hook up with some real people / not sure where.
My girl will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on you? Hahahah maybe. But if you want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on a girl then I don't know?
Just ask at the clubs and see if any of the girls are willing.
My girl likes to whip girls and guys but only I whip her. She is filipina and we are in a Bangkok often.
Good luck if I can find some numbers or info I will pm you or if you meet or find where some truly kinky girls are please let me know
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1114066]Wow. Nearly unbelievable (but why should you lie? You won't get richer by doing so here..)
At the beginning I thought she was just investing a couple of beers for a much larger return! LOL.
Or was something hanging out of your large bermuda when you were sitting there and that she noticed? LMAO[/QUOTE]Alas, nothing so interesting. She is a bit of a nympho, lives in a small town and comes to Bangkok every couple of months to screw foreigners. Great girl.
[QUOTE=Bored In Beijing; 1113948]Back in the hotel we started kissing then the clothes came of quickly and I got in some DATY. She loved it and returned the favour with a quality BBBJ. She seemed to really get into it with lots of porn star slurping and moaning. She ended up begging me to come in her mouth, which I did. She sucked my cock dry. Amazingly good experience.
We chatted for a while then she started playing with my cock again. Ended up giving me another BBBJ and again begged me to come in her mouth. She swallowed 2 loads no problem.
After that she showered and left. No money exchanged hands. Great evening! [/QUOTE]Sometimes, just occasionaly, life is good to you like that.
Enjoy it when you can.
Hotman
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[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1114080]Gents,
I'm in BKK and going to Phuket on Saturday and from then to Ko Phi Phi and Ko Lanta. Was wondering whether I should I bring a girl with me from Bangkok or is the talent good enough and prices not crazy to find a good one in Phuket to take with me to these islands? Would appreciate tips and suggestions from the more experienced gents in here.
Thanks. [/QUOTE]If you find a girl you have good chemistry with, take her.
I recently took a girl from a well-known lodge for 3 nights to the beach. I spent 1K for the BF / night and gave her 6K for the 4 day / 3 night. When we were walking around though a great market with clothing and other things she found something she wanted to buy. I reached for my cash but she waived it away and pulled out her wallet. Anyway, chemistry is the key.
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1114496]If you find a girl you have good chemistry with, take her.
I recently took a girl from a well-known lodge for 3 nights to the beach. I spent 1K for the BF / night and gave her 6K for the 4 day / 3 night. When we were walking around though a great market with clothing and other things she found something she wanted to buy. I reached for my cash but she waived it away and pulled out her wallet. Anyway, chemistry is the key. [/QUOTE]Oh heavens. And risk being called stupid!
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1114089]What's ridiculous is that you believe you can say waht others should do with their money. :confused:
Those on strict budgets need not read this. Some of us are mongering every day.
Its typical for some Farangs to go on some packaged holiday to an Island with accomodation, meals and drinks included for $350 per person per day. The problem is that sex with a really hot girl is not thrown in.
So supposing I guy thinks his dream girl is one costing 3k Baht per day for Mango and another 4k for the girl.
He organises good priced accomodation meals and drinks, and gets out it for way less than the first scenario, but has unlimited sex with his dream girl. Maybe he can afford it for just a few days of his dream holiday.
Each to his own. I would do it given the right dream girl. In the end, its not all about getting girls for the cheapest possible price. Its more about the quality of life for your special holiday. So why not get your dream girl, for this special time. It won't break the bank. We aren't talking about every day of the year. [/QUOTE]I fully agree too.
If one is willing to (and can) pay, he is welcome to do so.
Might taht raise the price lists? Not reallyh if this type of customer is 1 out of 100. The girl will take him as a lucky draw.
But if the number bcomes 60 out of 100, then girls will start saving their pussies on 40 and hope to reach some of the 60.
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1114496]If you find a girl you have good chemistry with, take her.
I recently took a girl from a well-known lodge for 3 nights to the beach. I spent 1K for the BF / night and gave her 6K for the 4 day / 3 night. When we were walking around though a great market with clothing and other things she found something she wanted to buy. I reached for my cash but she waived it away and pulled out her wallet. Anyway, chemistry is the key. [/QUOTE]Chemistry is important?
One thing I have learn since coming to Thailand and living here is that there are two types of bargirls in this topic when it comes to situations noted above.
Non-Chemistry, are the girls that are so harden and greedy that they make no attempt to hide their true self when they are with you. They want to go shopping and expect you to pay and make no bones to hide it. The bold ones take you to the gold shop! IMHO, this is a test to see how stupid we are along with how big our hearts are? The bigger the heart the bigger the projected future payout? I prefer these types because it makes it so easy to cut them loose.
Chemistry, those are the hardest and worst. The sex is good / great along with chemistry they have learned to hold back in getting you to pay. This is a test also to see how cheap you might be or what they can expect from you in the future. Are you a man or women type test? The " I can pay myself method " is on the same line that a bargirl or freelancer tells someone " I just got here a few days ago and you are my first customer thing " They have been taught to tell us this since to many it does make a difference if they hear that the girl hasn't been in the business a long time.
See, these are the most dangerous it is a hidden factor that allows many to believe this girl is a nice girl. These are GFE, and future sponsors and wives even? The end result is the same to lighten your wallet. See, I learn some Thai but still speak very little but understand more than they think. I still remember how I learn what the word chemistry means at a Thai party with 100% Thais and heard girls Pro / NON Pros talk about the chemistry method, if you like the Farang and see potential for the future don't ever go to the market and start buying everything insight and expect the Farang to pay. Sit back play it cool and you will be rewarded down the road.
These views are generalizations and shouldn't be contrue that it holds for everyone and every situation. Just my 2 Cents.
LBM
[QUOTE=Johnacarson;1114277]I miss Craigslist a lot. Met many great girls there and want to know where you guys are finding them now. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a site called Bangkok Tonight that has classified ads.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1114501]Oh heavens. And risk being called stupid![/QUOTE]Why? I don't think he was stupid. He wanted to go to the beach and decided to take a girl he liked along with him.
As opposed to going to the beach, hunting for a girl, spending 3 nights with average girls and paying 4 or 5k.
I would have done the same thing, better take a nice girl you know rather than risking to spoil your relaxing time because of frustration of not being able to find a good girl (or bad) there.
That has no price. The only thing that mattered is that he enjoyed himself.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1114058]Sorry, Tansak KTV was the handle of a Forum member.
He was became known for his torrid schedule of fucking girls, despite supposedly having time to do some business in Thailand. Unlike mere mortals, he did not seem to require rest periods between his shots. He would just keep going, but have to switch girls after they were exhausted.
I don't know about you guys, but I get complaints from girls, if I try to keep screwing them for more than 45 mins without breaks.
YSMV (Your size my vary). [/QUOTE]Yes, I would say that is a pretty accurate information
So sad. Half year ago I had big fun there and with a waitress. They even did some nice live show.
Some similar bar near nana? I don't want to go to patpong.
Anybody who has been to SOL in Pat II or BarBar recently?
I will head to BKK in 2 weeks and would like to know about current situation.
Thanks in advance.
FV
Are there any go-gos in Bangkok with good lighting, allowing me to get a good look at the women on stage?
Also, is there an up-to-date guide as to how much I should expect to pay the girls at the massage places? The business websites obviously only list how much I need to pay them.
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor; 1115126]Anybody who has been to SOL in Pat II or BarBar recently?
I will head to BKK in 2 weeks and would like to know about current situation.
Thanks in advance.
FV[/QUOTE]Just got back from SOL about an hour ago.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1114530]... But if the number bcomes 60 out of 100, then girls will start saving their pussies on 40 and hope to reach some of the 60.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't need to be such a high percentage. Actually, even if only a low percentage of customers are willing to pay much higher prices, some lazy providers would just wait for the most stupid or least informed punters.
Alas, it works for many other things, products or services in Thailand (and especially in Bangkok and tourist-oriented places). For instance, the lazy tuk-tuk drivers who just wait in certain touristy places where they know that there will be enough uninformed foreigners by day who are willing to use their service at an inflated price. Those tuk-tuk drivers don't need to have many customers and are sleeping most of the day, but their laziness is not really a problem for them because there is a big enough supply of foreigners who don't know shit about the regular prices.
Before the current entertainment status, a brief history of the go-go entertainment scene of Bangkok:
In the early 90s, Nana mostly had bikini entertainment; except the 3rd floor Hollywood which had some nudity. Next in the mid 90s or so, they had lesbian shower entertainment on the first floor. Then they stopped it in the late 90s or so; Hollywood had some nudity. They used to party late. Then they closed Nana at 2AM.
Soi Cowboy for all the the 90s and the early part of the 2010s had mostly bikini; except Long Gun which always had good nudity; that go-go bar must be connected.
Papong (the main soi not including the rip off bars, the Japanese clubs and the gay clubs) in the early to mid 90s had the cutest girls. I was there last year; it went down hill. Girls were not cute.
Current Status (Note that I did not go to every bar):
Nana went downhill. Overall quality is not that good. Nana always had a lot of ladyboys; it had those ladyboy clubs on the 2nd and 3rd floor. Now it seems to have become ladyboy central. Many of them hang out in front of Nana. Plus some bars have way too many ladyboys (most / all go-go bars have some ladyboys or post-op ex-guys, but some bars in Nana now have way too many for my taste). Only bar that's decent for quality is Rainbow; it had couple that I would consider cute (couple of 7s or 8s; but remember that I have a very tough rating). Only full nudity I saw was in Spanky in which 1 girl was in the shower naked; yuck! Is that it; I miss Pattaya!
Hollywood seems to be closed; I looked inside Carousel around 1 AM; only 1 girl on stage; seems to have died. Nana doesn't seem to be as happening / crowded as before.
Soi Cowboy is happening / crowded. Several bars have full nudity. Couple has lesbian shows.
Bacarra is always too crowded; but I was there 1 night, and I didn't seen any hotties.
Best club for lookers are Midnite and Sahara; there's a few in each club in which I would rate them as 8s.
Overall, I would rate Midnite as the best; it has full nudity; it has Papong style of shows; it has lesbian shows. Real ones, not like the fake ones like Suzy Wongs in which you can't see anything because the girl's hair is in the way.
Something strange (maybe a caveat) : on Tuesday, Midnite girl's had their clothes on; other clubs were similar; but then on Wednesday and Thursday things were back to normal. Maybe a temporary crackdown?
The thing that sucks the most about the Bangkok scene is the prices of the beers. Singha is 145 or 155 baht per beer; that is expensive if you have 7 or 8 per night.
Not sure what time they open or close; both Nana and Soi were open at 1:30 AM; Soi Cowboy had signs advertising happy hours specials starting at 4:30 and 5:30 PM.
I spent a total of three nights in Bangkok on my trip. One night just after New Years in transit between Phuket and Angeles and two at the very end to get some clothes tailored and load up at MBK.
First night I stayed at the Westin Grande on points. Luxury hotel, prime location, and definitely girl-friendly. Visited Soi Cowboy that night and had a good time at several of the bars, but I ended up spending most of my time at the Rio and pulled a young new girl there which rounded out the night very well.
Last two nights I stayed at the Bangkok Marriott Resort and Spa on the river on points. Amazing hotel, terrible location for the hobby, and I believe it is girl-friendly although it is so far away from the action, that I did ST locally. Next time I will use my Marriott points on the JW Marriott which is ground zero. I went to Nana during this trip and observed Rainbow 4 with the best talent, but much too crowded for my taste. As I was walking around I was pulled into a small club called Mandarin and it was definitely my style. Younger cuter girls, not too busy, and friendly management. Went ST with a newbie there and was duly rewarded. Also, I was surprised at the smoking ban inside the bars at Nana. I did adjust and have my cigar at the beer bars in the middle of the complex and the girls there were very fun to hang out with.
For the last three years I have always ended my trips at Thonglor 2 massage.
[url]http://thonglormassage.com/index1.html[/url]
This year the lineup was more impressive (make sure you ask for one) and I took package B instead of the usual A. Make sure you get the VIP room if you do a package and let the girl know that you will be doing the "special" massage as this sets the nude affectionate tone from the start. A very happy ending to an amazing trip.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1114103]I never said what anyone should do with their money. I simply said it's stupid to pay a 3K / day barfine when you can get a girl just as good for 600 baht / day (gogo girl) or nothing a day (freelancer)
It has nothing to do with budget. It's more like why would you buy a hamburger for $25 when the same hamburger is being sold next door for $5. [/QUOTE]Your dream girl is like a hamburger?
I wouldn't accept a McDonalds, no matter how cheap it was.
Not all burgers are the same.
Girls are even less the same.
I don't have time to screw and spend time with ordinary girls. Life is too short.
I heard a story about a guy who took a rather plain looking slightly overweight Thai girl from home country to holiday with him in Thailand and paid her $1000 per day (Farang country rates I guess) for several weeks.
Now that defies belief but was supposed to be a true story. She used the money to buy a house and car in Thailand.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1115110]Why? I don't think he was stupid. He wanted to go to the beach and decided to take a girl he liked along with him.
As opposed to going to the beach, hunting for a girl, spending 3 nights with average girls and paying 4 or 5k.
I would have done the same thing, better take a nice girl you know rather than risking to spoil your relaxing time because of frustration of not being able to find a good girl (or bad) there.
That has no price. The only thing that mattered is that he enjoyed himself. [/QUOTE]Well, you rather missed the point there old man – that's what I was saying...
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1114103]I never said what anyone should do with their money. I simply said it's stupid to pay a 3K / day barfine when you can get a girl just as good for 600 baht / day (gogo girl) or nothing a day (freelancer)
It has nothing to do with budget. It's more like why would you buy a hamburger for $25 when the same hamburger is being sold next door for $5. [/QUOTE]
Dear Mongerers,
I have now been traveling for a while and I'm now bored of the A-cups and B cups of the girls in Thailand.
Does anyone have any ideas of where to find a fake titted "balloon" girl in either BKK or phuket area? Been trying to trawl the forums but no luck.
Would appreciate the assistance. I will happily post a report with some pictures as a thanks if the information leads to some ST fun.
Anchor 777
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1115167]I wouldn't accept a McDonalds, no matter how cheap it was.
Not all burgers are the same.
Girls are even less the same.
I don't have time to screw and spend time with ordinary girls. Life is too short. [/QUOTE]Are you trying to tell me that all the girls in every gogo bar and freelance joint in Bangkok are ordinary McDonalds girls, and the only great girls in the entire city can be found at Mangos and cost 3K / night just for the barfine?
I think some of the guys posting messages in here are Mangos staff.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1115316]Are you trying to tell me that all the girls in every gogo bar and freelance joint in Bangkok are ordinary McDonalds girls, and the only great girls in the entire city can be found at Mangos and cost 3K / night just for the barfine?
I think some of the guys posting messages in here are Mangos staff. [/QUOTE]You try to extrapolate too far. But any old cheap girl would not be acceptable.
I guess the guy had his special girl at Mango and his mind, she would be his dream girl.
I have no idea who you are referring to as Mango's staff. You will see my posts are on a wide variety of subjects.
I do have a favourite girl at Mango since fairly recently but am yet to do take out as have been getting my "dream girl" from Dollhouse. Yes its cheaper barfine, but its really the particular girl that is most important.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1115156]Best club for lookers are Midnite and Sahara; there's a few in each club in which I would rate them as 8s.
Overall, I would rate Midnite as the best; it has full nudity; it has Papong style of shows; it has lesbian shows. Real ones, not like the fake ones like Suzy Wongs in which you can't see anything because the girl's hair is in the way. [/QUOTE]Hahaha. Hilarious. I guess it's all subjective, but Midnite and Sahara are both owned by the Arab; his bars are notorious for having all sorts of problems. I've been in there a few times. Mostly the girls have bored looks on their faces and not many hotties. Again, it's all subjective. Baccara, Tilac, Shark, and Dollhouse are overall the best for good-looking girls in my opinion.
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor; 1115126]Anybody who has been to SOL in Pat II or BarBar recently?
I will head to BKK in 2 weeks and would like to know about current situation.
Thanks in advance.
FV[/QUOTE]I was there a few days ago. Prices are still the same. 700 for a BJ either in the bar or the bathroom. The selection is not what it used to be (both Jane and Rabbit are gone) but still an excellent BJ bar.
[QUOTE=Pitender; 1115160]Make sure you get the VIP room if you do a package and let the girl know that you will be doing the "special" massage as this sets the nude affectionate tone from the start. A very happy ending to an amazing trip. [/QUOTE]
Interesting. Sounds good. However, can you explain? How does the 'special' massage relate to Package B (or A).
Excuse my ignorance.
AL
[QUOTE=Anchor777; 1115290]Dear Mongerers,
I have now been traveling for a while and I'm now bored of the A-cups and B cups of the girls in Thailand.
Does anyone have any ideas of where to find a fake titted "balloon" girl in either BKK or phuket area? Been trying to trawl the forums but no luck.
Would appreciate the assistance. I will happily post a report with some pictures as a thanks if the information leads to some ST fun.
Anchor 777[/QUOTE]If you go up about 150 meters into Soi 13, you come to cross road (I forget the name but there is 7/11 at the corner. Turn right and about 50 meters on the right there a shop with a sign "FAKE TITS CLUB". You will find all the fake titties balloon girls there. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1115490]If you go up about 150 meters into Soi 13, you come to cross road (I forget the name but there is 7/11 at the corner. Turn right and about 50 meters on the right there a shop with a sign "FAKE TITS CLUB". You will find all the fake titties balloon girls there. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for that piece of information Duniawala! Bangkok truly seems to have a bar for every taste. Do you happen to have any more information about the club? Have you personally been there Duniawala?
I will be in Bangkok next month for just two nights and as time is short and way too much information on this board, I was wondering if experienced folks can spare a few seconds and give me a few "concentrated" tips?
I will be staying in a hotel for about 55 hours in total and will prefer to experience a full two hour all inclusive message. Also I am not into bar scene or this pick-up thingy but prefer to visit a place or site, take a look at whats available and go with it to hotel.
So keeping above in mind.
1. Which is the best area in Bangkok, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or any other?
2. Which area do you recommend for hotels that is close to action, safe and GF friendly as well.
3. Are there any very good, somewhat upscale incall places in Bangkok? If yes what would you recommend?
4. How does it work in go-go bars? You walk in. Order a drink and survey. Talk to prospectors, buy them a drink, pay bar fine and walk out with the kill? If so I would rather not get into it because fo shortage of time.
5. Do you have any contacts of reliable suppliers or freelancers? Is it even adviseable to take this route?
6. Some on this board have liked escorts service, others say it is a waste of time. Any comments?
7. Are message places like mango / annies similar to gogo bars in the sense that one can walk in, get a mesage with action and then have a deal for LT with provider or message place owner? Or not?
8. What would you do if you not into bar scene and have just 55 hours to partake all the action?
Forgive me for the newfie questions, I am a newbie to Thailand so have a lot to learn about the scene there in shortest span of time. Thanks in advance.
I'm not a local but been there quite often so there is my personal opinion:
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1115577]I.
1. Which is the best area in Bangkok, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or any other?
Soi Cowboy, you can wlak / take bts / tuktuk to Nana.
2. Which area do you recommend for hotels that is close to action, safe and GF friendly as well.
I stay at Citadines. Very girl friedly.
4. How does it work in go-go bars? You walk in. Order a drink and survey. Talk to prospectors, buy them a drink, pay bar fine and walk out with the kill? If so I would rather not get into it because fo shortage of time.
Yes.
6. Some on this board have liked escorts service, others say it is a waste of time. Any comments?
IMHO waste of time.
7. Are message places like mango / annies similar to gogo bars in the sense that one can walk in, get a mesage with action and then have a deal for LT with provider or message place owner? Or not?
You can have outcall service from some parlors.
8. What would you do if you not into bar scene and have just 55 hours to partake all the action?
Buy a guidebook and take a walk. Bangkok is an amazing place.
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Anyone has experience with short waitress from Shark? She always work on the right (from the door) part of bar. Don't remember her number.
Hey there, dudes! It's been TOO long since I've been back to the Land of Smiles-almost two years I thinK? I just arrived lastnight and headed right o Nana-I see there are a lot of changes! At Spankys, the girls seemed VERY aloof-whats's up with that? Then I went to Erotica, where two years ago one of the boss ladies there used to OK bareback sex with her girls if one showed her recent test papers-but the current mamasan is actively discouraging it! So I ended up in Carosoul (the one with the mechnical bull) that used to be full of Issan MILFs who readily fucked bareback. But there were only 5 girls on the carasoul there last night, and I was the only customer! I ended up taking out a young Issan girl for 1500 + 600 barfine, who I fucked bareback-but it was not very GFE, and quite rushed service.
So, does anyone with whom I corresponded before have any recent info on particular venues or girls who will are willing to have sex the way that nature intended it?
Please PM me if you are not comfortable exhanging this intel in public! In return, I can offer up a lot of intel on similar services in th USA-both east and west coast-if you are interested! Kahp kuhn krap, in advance, dudes!
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What are the normal prices for ST, LT and overnight nowadays in Thailand?
Haven't been there for years, so I would need an advise.
And what is the cheapest place to pick up girls now?
[QUOTE=JerryTheFarang; 1115714]I'm a ladyboy lover and although I'm a longtime resident of Bangkok, I may not know all the venues. I'm partial to Nana Plaza, of course; it has four katoey bars now (five before Carousel closed) and I think it will take a lot to match Cascade on the third floor for number and willingness to play. I visited another ladyboy bar on Patpong recently and those girls were so aggressive I had to laugh. Where else can a ladybody lover go? Am I missing something? Let me hear from you. And if you're a ladyboy lover, too, let's talk.
[email]Jerrythefarang@gmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]No one is in charge here anymore? How does a moderated post about a banned topic like this gets posted? Oh well, carry on!
Couldn't help but notice the last few posts:
"cheapest place to pick up girls"
"Where else can a ladybody lover go?"
"used to be full of Issan MILFs who readily fucked bareback"
"there a shop with a sign 'FAKE TITS CLUB'"
"where to find a fake titted 'balloon' girl"
Is it just me, or is the ISG starting to become the special home of the wayward monger?
OTH, where are you when we need you?
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]1. Which is the best area in Bangkok, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or any other?[/QUOTE]Sukhumvit with Nana at one end and Soi Cowboy at the other. There are many others but this is the most popular area now.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]2. Which area do you recommend for hotels that is close to action, safe and GF friendly as well.[/QUOTE]Sukhumvit Road between Soi 1 and Soi 33. Book hotels from a site like Asia Travel, Asia Rooms, Agoda etc. I have no idea what your budget is. Look at the Hotel thread.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]3. Are there any very good, somewhat upscale incall places in Bangkok? If yes what would you recommend?[/QUOTE]There are no legalized brothels in Thailand. You can get sex in some massage places and you can pick up from bars and gogo clubs. Freelancer places: Biergarden, Gullivers, Thermae are others. You can find them on the streets after bar closing. Picking up freelancers are cheaper but from bars (with abarfine) is safer. Since if anything happens, you know where to go. For newbies I recommend the latter. As usual practice not only safe sex but also be aware of surroundings etc. Have the girl leave her I'd at the front desk.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]4. How does it work in go-go bars? You walk in. Order a drink and survey. Talk to prospectors, buy them a drink, pay bar fine and walk out with the kill? If so I would rather not get into it because fo shortage of time.[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]5. Do you have any contacts of reliable suppliers or freelancers? Is it even adviseable to take this route?[/QUOTE]We are not pimps here. Read the threads.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]6. Some on this board have liked escorts service, others say it is a waste of time. Any comments?[/QUOTE]It's your luck, but it is a lot cheaper by not going this route.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]7. Are message places like mango / annies similar to gogo bars in the sense that one can walk in, get a mesage with action and then have a deal for LT with provider or message place owner? Or not?[/QUOTE]Yes to first part, maybe to the second.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1115577]8. What would you do if you not into bar scene and have just 55 hours to partake all the action?[/QUOTE]Take a tour bus during the day and go to a massage place at night. Or spend 24 hrs there and save on the hotel bills.
Next time take the time to read through the site. Use search function to look for specific things. There is a google map of massage places. I don't have the link, but it is on this site.
As you are an Indian, you may find some who don't want you. But keep your cool, dress well, no body odor and above all respect them. And you will get a lot in return. I have.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1115828]We are not pimps here. Read the threads.[/QUOTE]That's right. We're "Johns."
[QUOTE=JerryTheFarang; 1115714]I'm a ladyboy lover and although I'm a longtime resident of Bangkok, I may not know all the venues. Am I missing something?
Jerrie, seems to me as a longtime Bangkok resident AND a ladyboy lover you should pretty much know where the fuck to go.
Duniawala and Tabasco72
Your answers were absolutely to the point and exactly what I needed to save time. Thanks a lots folks. Thanks to your generosity I was able to pin point one area for stay, play and fly away.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers
Had a few bevvies on Cowboy. If you're into fake titties, Dollhouse has employed a few girls with bolt ons. There is one girl who dances upstairs who has great big balloon tits. #119. Anyone ever take her? Anyway, refusing to pay the 2k for ST required by these sluts, I took a freelancer from the carpark. 700 baht + 300 for the short time room. A good time was had. She wanted me to pay her upfront, which I refused. She told me that she had been burned by guys before but after some coaxing she agreed. Sorry no pics. It's very rare that I meet a BKK working girl who will agree to pics these days. Must be at least two years since I took some action snaps.
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1116020]Hey lets all go to BKK and pay the hoes 10, 000 bhat each and stay in 5000 bhat daily hotel rooms, overpay for tuktuks, and smile happily to the thais as we hand over our wallets and wai saying "thai people are so nice. Blahbhaah" sounds like a hybrid of wankers in kao san plus sukhumvit combined right?
But then I woke up, I am not an old fat man, I am still a young handsome guy with an education and GAME to pick up bitches, so guys if you are young you can get the hoes for free. Only the old losers in asia pay. Rule #1[/QUOTE]Have you ever heard about an economy? No buyers - no selers.
I don't think that ozzies did it but old european.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1115781]This site is not for homosexuals. Please find another forum, not here.[/QUOTE]I come to this site (and pay) specifically to avoid this! Could somebody PLEASE eliminate this BS!
[QUOTE=JerryTheFarang; 1115714]I'm a ladyboy lover and although I'm a longtime resident of Bangkok, I may not know all the venues. I'm partial to Nana Plaza, of course; it has four katoey bars now (five before Carousel closed) and I think it will take a lot to match Cascade on the third floor for number and willingness to play. I visited another ladyboy bar on Patpong recently and those girls were so aggressive I had to laugh. Where else can a ladybody lover go? Am I missing something? Let me hear from you. And if you're a ladyboy lover, too, let's talk.
[email]Jerrythefarang@gmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]To Avoid This. Above
[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1116077]Have you ever heard about an economy? No buyers - no selers.[/QUOTE]No buyers willing to shell out 3K baht for a barfine, no sellers will ask for it.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1115156]Overall, I would rate Midnite as the best; it has full nudity; it has Papong style of shows; it has lesbian shows. Real ones, not like the fake ones like Suzy Wongs in which you can't see anything because the girl's hair is in the way.[/QUOTE]Nice to know the how the action's shifting, especially since I'll be heading over next week for a short trip.
Does anyone happen to know what time I should show up to catch the lesbian show?
Has anyone found a girl to hire without gag reflex? I'd really love to find one who can give some quality esophageal squeeze treatment without anyone getting harmed in the act.
I've searched the forums and seen a lot mentions of "deep throat" but I suspect people don't always mean the same thing. At least I've yet to find someone with the talent to take it all in and hold.
Hard to choose which forum to ask, but I'll be staying in Bangkok and Pattay next week, so would feel lucky to know of any recommendations.
Feel free to PM or post depending on how specific the info you might be willing to share. Thanks much!
[QUOTE=Typhun; 1116119]Nice to know the how the action's shifting, especially since I'll be heading over next week for a short trip.
Does anyone happen to know what time I should show up to catch the lesbian show? [/QUOTE]About 11ish PM would be a good time.
Soi Cowboy now is the best go-go bar area in Bangkok for quality and entertainment.
Although Patpong should have an honorable mention if you like ping pong shows, dart blowers, pussy writers etc (although the girls that do the shows aren't that cute) ; but it's fun for the first time; then it gets boring.
Warning: if you go, always go in the main street (is it Patpong 2?) ; go to the bars that's part of the kings / queens group. Some of the bars to the side will be rip-off bars; many ways to rip you off; there might be a sign that only says "120"; then they'll try to charge you $120 US dollars instead of 120 baht; I would say don't pay the rip-off price and they'll eventually let you go; if you pay, tour books say you can get your money back if you go to the tourist police afterwards.
Side Note: When I mentioned bars that have the top lookers, I meant the lookers in terms of the top 2 or 3 girls of the bar, not the average quality. There's 1 door girl / dancer at Sahara that's very cute; but she's skinny with small breasts; some guys might not like her; some guys like their girls to "have some meat on their bones".
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1116000]Yo players, anyone who pays 3000 baht to bang a peasant thai hoe is a loser, period. There is a great economic depression ready to set in. But none of you far. Rang seem to understand this? Do you want BKK to become the next RIO? If you give these bitches 3000 baht today, tomorrow they will ask for 5, and then 10, you see what I mean?
Why is the price of ass getting to be ridiculous? Lets blame the ozzies. Why? Two key factors. See I can prove my hypothesis:
1. Ozzie live so close to BKK so they ticket price is almost free, while the rest of us. USA and Europe have to shell out a small fortune to fly there. Hey that's nearly 2000 bucks man. So the ozzie redneck will take that savings and give it to some issan redneck, haha, sounds true? How many ozzies do you see in South America? None. Cheapest mudafkers, try flying out of your own hemisheres mates.
2. Oz economy is booming, avoiding recession for 19 years. So this booming economy means that ozzies will take the cash and give it to isssan hoes. Come on ozzies, get some self-esteem and stop ruining BKK for the rest of us. This may change when China busts setting off a bust in oz too. Lets hope so. [/QUOTE]Interesting Mr Bigy. In the above post you claim that Australians are ruining Bangkok for everyone else by allegedly overpaying "isaan hoes", then in a later post you claim to be young, have game and can get it for free.
Which one is true?
If you want to voice your opinion on what you think is a fair price to pay for sex in Thailand, fine. But leave the racial slurs out of it ok.
[QUOTE=Bangkok Banger;1115707]So, does anyone with whom I corresponded before have any recent info on particular venues or girls who will are willing to have sex the way that nature intended it?[/QUOTE]Since you are at it my friend, you might as well go the all way trough and creampie each and every one of the women you score hoping that the trick works and they get pregnant. Afterall, to make babies trough sex was what nature intended, or wasn't it?
Just having a laughter here, to each his own.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Typhun;1116119]Does anyone happen to know what time I should show up to catch the lesbian show?[/QUOTE]Agree that Midnight is one of the best.
The show does not appear to be on every night in Midnight, or if it is, the timing varies. There was a full on, graphic, show on a Weds and Thurs night a few weeks ago, at about 11-12pm.
I almost waited for the girls tongues to disappear entirely into each other. It certainly was not a put on job. It made the topless shuffle in Baccara on the upstairs glass floor (attached) seem pretty tame. I was already with one of the girls or I would have made a beeline for one of those putting on the show.
You could also look out for number 9. She's quite likely to disappear down your throat even on the bar seat, not to mention slapping her ass so hard that it sounds as loud as the whip the girls use on the stage. Say Hello!
SO8
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1116000]Yo players, anyone who pays 3000 baht to bang a peasant thai hoe is a loser, period. There is a great economic depression ready to set in. But none of you far. Rang seem to understand this? Do you want BKK to become the next RIO? If you give these bitches 3000 baht today, tomorrow they will ask for 5, and then 10, you see what I mean?
Why is the price of ass getting to be ridiculous? Lets blame the ozzies. Why? Two key factors. See I can prove my hypothesis:
1. Ozzie live so close to BKK so they ticket price is almost free, while the rest of us. USA and Europe have to shell out a small fortune to fly there. Hey that's nearly 2000 bucks man. So the ozzie redneck will take that savings and give it to some issan redneck, haha, sounds true? How many ozzies do you see in South America? None. Cheapest mudafkers, try flying out of your own hemisheres mates.
2. Oz economy is booming, avoiding recession for 19 years. So this booming economy means that ozzies will take the cash and give it to isssan hoes. Come on ozzies, get some self-esteem and stop ruining BKK for the rest of us. This may change when China busts setting off a bust in oz too. Lets hope so. [/QUOTE]While I do agree in line of principle with what you say I'm afraid that pointing it out on here will not help the cause.
First off, tourism in Thailand is such a mainstream thing that even if each and every forum member agrees on what you say that would still make not even the 0. 0001% of the totality of male heterosexual tourists visiting Thailand regularly.
Also, as I have personally experienced, there is a certain tendency for fellow forum members here on the LOS thread to bend over with their trousers down, put a lighter in front of their assholes and start flaming at you quite hard when you express such opinions of yours the same way you do.
So, bottomline is; the one you want to fight here is a lost battle, you'd better spare yourself the hassle.
Thailand will keep on going downhill as far as our hobby is concerned and no-one can save the situation from deteriorating.
Disrespecting Australian forum members won't help either, and even tho what you say about them could be true, one could argue then that Colombia and Brazil have been spoiled by Americans and so forth, so that's also an argument that is going nowhere.
Finally, as each one of us has the right to spend or waste his own hard-earned cash however they please; life is too short not to do so anyways; and if some people doesn't feel like suckers by paying double or ten-fold the fair rate and are subsequently cool with that, who are we to say they shouldn't?
Bless
[QUOTE=Scot One8; 1116206]Agree that Midnight is one of the best.
It made the topless shuffle in Baccara on the upstairs glass floor (attached) seem pretty tame.
You could also look out for number 9.
SO8[/QUOTE]Number 9, Fone, is a small ball of fire.
Now attached.
SO8
Can anyone give me the definitive answer on the status of Wild Country in Washington Square. I have read conflicting reports in other forums. Some suggest it is no longer open as Washington Square is being demolished to make space for some hotel or something such as that. Others report that it is still open and going as strong as ever. I've been in BKK many times but have never been to Wild Country and would like to check it out when I'm there again in about a month.
Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1115156]Best club for lookers are Midnite and Sahara; there's a few in each club in which I would rate them as 8s.
Overall, I would rate Midnite as the best; it has full nudity; it has lesbian shows. Real ones, not like the fake ones like Suzy Wongs in which you can't see anything because the girl's hair is in the way. [/QUOTE]I usually find two or three really hot looking girls at Rainbow 4, but you have to be careful of getting a starfish princess. I always find some nice girls at Baccara. Despite the high prices, it remains my favorite Go Go on cowboy.
But let me get something straight: aren't Midnite & Sahara Coyote Go Go Bars? And aren't the bar girls and coyote dancers mixed together at these places? And generally, aren't the better looking girls the Coyotes who dance on the stage, will drink with you, but cannot be barfined? Who needs that?
[QUOTE=Scot One8; 1116223]Number 9, Fone, is a small ball of fire.
Now attached.
SO8[/QUOTE]Nice. The one on the left I've been wanting to fuck for awhile. Best pair of fake titties on the soi. How did you manage to get that shot without the management killing you?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1116240]But let me get something straight: aren't Midnite & Sahara Coyote Go Go Bars? And aren't the bar girls and coyote dancers mixed together at these places? And generally, aren't the better looking girls the Coyotes who dance on the stage, will drink with you, but cannot be barfined? Who needs that?[/QUOTE]Don't know. I didn't barfine them. I usually find the cutest girls starfishes who won't do all the nasty stuff I like.
Maybe that's why those cute girls were still around late.
[QUOTE=Scot One8; 1116223]Number 9, Fone, is a small ball of fire.
Now attached.
SO8[/QUOTE]You gave her name, number and bar so why did you cover her face?
Hey boys,
Just cruised to Soi Nana last night. Wasn't interested in any of the bars but the street action. Checked out the girls where all the street shops are, nothing amazing. Went down the street with the Nana Hotel on it. Did a circuit and found a very nice little streetwalker dressed up to the nines. Very tight arse and 34 see Cup. Quoted me 1000 Baht so I just grabbed her and took her back to my hotel about 70 Baht away by taxi.
Was a little bit worried as she was obviously a working girl but the Hotel didn't say anything.
Banged her stupid, really nice girlfriend experience, awesome body and really tight everywhere hahaha!
Was just short time, but pretty much 9. 5/10 maybe a 10/10.
So they are around just cruise, take your time and go for it.
Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1116000]Yo players, anyone who pays 3000 baht to bang a peasant thai hoe is a loser, period. There is a great economic depression ready to set in. But none of you far. Rang seem to understand this? Do you want BKK to become the next RIO? If you give these bitches 3000 baht today, tomorrow they will ask for 5, and then 10, you see what I mean?[/QUOTE]Get out and about a bit. Get your beers at 40/50bt and short times at 300bt! They are available, but not in the centre of tourist areas!
Are you sure it's on sukhumvit soi13? Didn't see any crossing there nor a 7-11.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1115490]If you go up about 150 meters into Soi 13, you come to cross road (I forget the name but there is 7/11 at the corner. Turn right and about 50 meters on the right there a shop with a sign "FAKE TITS CLUB". You will find all the fake titties balloon girls there. Have fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spider916;1116388]Are you sure it's on sukhumvit soi13? Didn't see any crossing there nor a 7-11.[/QUOTE]I didn't either. Walked up and down that soi for 20 minutes but didn't see shit. There's some big hotel and some pool clubs and massage shops but that's it. It's a nothing soi.
[QUOTE=Globetrotter; 1116225]Can anyone give me the definitive answer on the status of Wild Country in Washington Square. I have read conflicting reports in other forums. Some suggest it is no longer open as Washington Square is being demolished to make space for some hotel or something such as that. Others report that it is still open and going as strong as ever. I've been in BKK many times but have never been to Wild Country and would like to check it out when I'm there again in about a month.
Thanks for the help. [/QUOTE]I last went to Wild Country in December 10 and it was most certainly open. Definately worth a try IMHO. I will be in Bangkok for 1 day in Feb and 1 week in March. PM me if you are around at that time and I can show you where it is. Cheers
[quote=clyde drexler;1110651]i am a newbie going to be in bangkok in a week and has to stay in a five star hotel for business. anyone have any suggestions of how i can bring an sp back to my room or just get two hotel rooms? also will there be any fellow mongers who could show a fellow monger around?[/quote]if you're staying in a five star hotel, just check to see if it's girl friendly on [url]http://www.bangkokguestfriendlyhotels.com/.[/url] if not, then use a short time hotel or stick to soapies and avoid long time gals.
one additional suggestion to insure a good time and have some company, assuming you aren't on a tight budget: you might consider hiring a 'night tour guide'. i was in bangkok for only two nights, so i asked some locals (including the infamous stickman) and was referred to an outfit called bangkoknightlifetours. com.
the first night, i asked simon, the guide, to take me to some places i'd heard of. he doesn't take kickbacks and using an expat local who can speak thai and ask the papasan directly if a girl gives good service, decreases the chances of getting rob'ed by a starfish. i had a good evening, that satisfied my curiosity about places like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and poseidon. however, the second night, i asked him to take me to his favorite spots, and first, he led me to a less well known soapy with a remarkable level of ddg talent and filled with locals. man, it was like night and day, the place was literally overflowing with 10s! he said that the talent shifts around very quickly, so places are "hot" only for a week or two, and even then, it's hit or miss any particular day. you need a grapevine to know what's hot that day. afterwards (following his advice that it's best to start an evening with a soapy at 4 pm) , i let him lead and we partied until 5am, visiting some truly amazing clubs, bars, coyote lounges and ending up at an all night oily for late night massages. nothing like having an insider show you around, and helping you pre-negotiate with a ddg but non-english speaking bargirl for a successful short time.
well anyway, have fun and let us know how your trip went. also, what hotel are staying at?
Hi,
I am thinking of going to Bangkok during Chinese new year. Are all the fun places like nana plaza and Soi Cowboy still open? If so is it busier or quieter than usual. Sorry for the question but I don't know if Thai's celebrate Chinese new year or not.
[QUOTE=Spider916;1116388]Are you sure it's on sukhumvit soi13? Didn't see any crossing there nor a 7-11.[/QUOTE]Are you guys for real? How old are you guys and where do you come from. If English is not your first language, then I am sorry. If it is, then you deserve to go around looking for the club. Does anyone in the forum believe that there would be club by that name? My mind boggles.
It was a question by a person who is probably 16 years old. And never even mongered. It's a question like are there any girls in Bangkok on New Years day? (Yes, that is real question from couple of years back)
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1116240]aren't Midnite & Sahara Coyote Go Go Bars? And aren't the bar girls and coyote dancers mixed together at these places? And generally, aren't the better looking girls the Coyotes who dance on the stage, will drink with you, but cannot be barfined? Who needs that?[/QUOTE]Has anybody successfully hooked up with a non-barfinable coyote girl at one of these places? I've tried many times exchanging numbers with them and offering them money to meet me during off hours and never gotten anywhere with them. I've found it to be a complete waste of time and will not patronize these types of establishments on soi cowboy. These type of "tease" joints should be shut down or boycotted. Just a bunch more of the Japanese nonsense that doesn't belong in the farang orientated zones. Soi cowboy used to be one giant farang dominated whroe house!
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1116000]Yo players, anyone who pays 3000 baht to bang a peasant thai hoe is a loser, period. There is a great economic depression ready to set in. But none of you farang seem to understand this? Do you want BKK to become the next RIO? If you give these bitches 3000 baht today, tomorrow they will ask for 5, and then 10, you see what I mean? Why is the price of ass getting to be ridiculous? Lets blame the ozzies.[/QUOTE]I would like to rebut your statement that anyone who pays 3000 baht to a Thai working girl is a loser.
First, I have noticed that there is a correlation, in general, between the currency exchange rate and the price of pussy. In countries with a higher standard of living, prostitution is simply more expensive. The US and UK, with strong dollar and pound sterling, have the highest escort prices. Canada, Germany and Netherlands all have decently priced currency and pussy. And countries like Cuba and Thailand and Cambodia, with weak currency, generally provide the best bargains. In fact, an effective economic indicator to gauge a country's strength is what I call the "blowjob-index." The idea is that the value of a local currency generally maps to the cost of sex in that country. In other words, there's a correlation between the strength of the local economy and the price of a blowjob, just like the Big Mac Index. So in the UK, a blowjob might cost you $150-200, but in Amsterdam about $60-80. Then look at that country's currency. A hundred Pound Sterling would run about 175 bucks, a 100 Netherland Guilders (pre-Euro) would cost you $60. Voila! An index!
In fact, when Herodotus, the king of Lydia, invented the idea of a standardized coin, his metric for the value of his coins was based on the value of things like a day's wages as a laborer, a bag of rice, or a visit to a temple prostitute. Thus, the price of pussy in Thailand has more to do with the underlying economics of the country, than the generosity of patrons. Thus, prostitution is not only the oldest profession, but money was partially invented to serve that profession.
Thus, the price of pussy isn't really driven so much by the level of generosity of the sex tourist, so much as the fundamental economics of that country. If you want cheaper sex, go to Cambodia or Laos. Thailand and China have strong and emergent economies, so you can expect the price of pussy in Bangkok and Shanghai to keep rising over the next decade. The flip side of this is that the price of pussy in America will likely slowly decline over the next decade, along with its fortunes and in inverse correlation to the unemployment index. Even if you got every member of this board to agree to toe the line on costs, it would barely make a dent in the economic trend and the pussy index for Thailand.
Second, the typical head of household in the city of Isaan makes roughly $200 per year income. Thus, when the family sends a daughter to Bangkok to ply the oldest trade, she is in fact, sacrificing her life to save her family. Oddly, they'll send one son to the monastery to make up for the karmic implications of selling a daughter into prostitution. The typical Isaan girl sends home 20, 000+ ThB per month, or about 80% of her salary. So when I nail a Thai working gal, and she tells her the story about her family. It opens my heart and I'll tip her a few hundred baht, because it's good karma. In fact, when you use the term "peasant thai hoe", you are being both sexist and classist. It is better to see all human beings as fundamentally worthy of respect and dignity.
Third, I'll tell you a little story about why showing Thai girls respect can lead to a better outcome. I picked up an absolute 10 at a club a while back, and negotiated a long time. Her asking price was exorbitant. 6000 baht. And instead of bargaining her down to 3 or 4 like she was expecting. I said sure, why not. I was staying in a suite in the Shangri-la, and boy did her eyes pop out when she walked into the room. Then, instead of treating her like a working girl, I treated her with respect. And ordered a bubble bath, champagne with strawberries, and went down on her for two hours. (Many working gals, in order to withstand excessive sexplay, deaden their orgasmic response.) After she came. She admitted she orgasmed infrequently because her life was duty, she cried. And then suddenly, she bolted straight up and asked,"you know you're paying for this right?" After I assured her that I was paying her the small fortune in the morning, she did her absolute best to make me happy in return. Afterwards, I bowed with genuine respect and thanked her for a wonderful night of pleasure and we dozed off, holding each other in our arms. In the morning, she begged to stay and offered to fuck me. For free for the entire week that I was in town for a conference. All she asked was the right to go out and do a couple of short times in the evening, but promised she'd be back by midnight. The quality of the sex was so much better than paying for it, as she actually opened her heart and wanted me inside of her. She became a star in the bedroom, not a starfish.
Anyway, I had no intention of falling in love with her, so I felt bad toward the end of the week. Getting so much sex and not paying anything except providing room and breakfast, so I offered to take her shopping. She was careful not to ask for anything too expensive, to impress on me that she was not a gold digger. And of course, she wrote me quite a bit once I was home, hoping for a rematch.
So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1116592]Has anybody successfully hooked up with a non-barfinable coyote girl at one of these places? I've tried many times exchanging numbers with them and offering them money to meet me during off hours and never gotten anywhere with them. I've found it to be a complete waste of time and will not patronize these types of establishments on soi cowboy. These type of "tease" joints should be shut down or boycotted. Just a bunch more of the Japanese nonsense that doesn't belong in the farang orientated zones. Soi cowboy used to be one giant farang dominated whroe house![/QUOTE]I agree, that's why I called attention to these 2 bars after another poster reported on how hot their girls where. There is probably a small minority of guys that like this type of bar. That's fine with me, to each their own. But what I object to is the bait and switch tactics employed by these establishments which is especially offensive to me because they are located on Soi Cowboy which as you write "used to be [and still is] a giant farang dominated whroe house!" Most customers do not know the set up when they walk in. All they see are some very attractive girls dancing on stage and hanging around, so they sit down order a drink and start buying drinks for the coyotes unaware that these girls are not barfinable. I understand that Midnight and Sahara are owned by the same business group. All I am saying is everybody should be made aware of the situation and then let the free market determine the winners and the losers.
I will be back in the big mango shortly. I am looking forward to it, but you won't find me buying drinks in these Coyote bars. That's for dang sure.
I just arrived in Bangkok tonight, staying at Dream hotel. Its no problem to bring a girl back. Got a rate of $57 / night so great deal for a hotel in NY that costs $400 / night. Very nice, if you like W hotels you will like it here.
This is my 1st time here and the prices seem crazy. I was quoted 4, 000 baht LT at almost every bar on soi cowboy.
Tonight from the lookers. Others can be less but not really cute girls. Its crazy, someone must be driving the prices up because it wasnt just midnight and sahara. All clubs had same prices. There were some really hot girls in Midnight but these prices are crazy. ST were asking 2000.
I got a girl to come down to 2500 LT but after long negotiations and it was late. Attitudes seem to be quite snobby and business like from the hot ones.
Anyways just a quick update on the current scene.
Holy Shit, Duni! I walked around Sukhumvit for over 5 hours looking for this Big Tits club and couldn't find it.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1116589]Are you guys for real? How old are you guys and where do you come from. If English is not your first language, then I am sorry. If it is, then you deserve to go around looking for the club. Does anyone in the forum believe that there would be club by that name? My mind boggles.
It was a question by a person who is probably 16 years old. And never even mongered. It's a question like are there any girls in Bangkok on New Years day? (Yes, that is real question from couple of years back) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1116589]Are you guys for real? How old are you guys and where do you come from. If English is not your first language, then I am sorry. If it is, then you deserve to go around looking for the club. Does anyone in the forum believe that there would be club by that name? My mind boggles.
It was a question by a person who is probably 16 years old. And never even mongered. It's a question like are there any girls in Bangkok on New Years day? (Yes, that is real question from couple of years back) [/QUOTE]EXCELLENT Duni, you old bestard.
You certainly punked a lot of people with this one. I was also going to take a stroll down 13, for a looksee.
Haha
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1116650]I agree, that's why I called attention to these 2 bars after another poster reported on how hot their girls where. There is probably a small minority of guys that like this type of bar. That's fine with me, to each their own. But what I object to is the bait and switch tactics employed by these establishments which is especially offensive to me because they are located on Soi Cowboy which as you write "used to be [and still is] a giant farang dominated whroe house!" Most customers do not know the set up when they walk in. All they see are some very attractive girls dancing on stage and hanging around, so they sit down order a drink and start buying drinks for the coyotes unaware that these girls are not barfinable. I understand that Midnight and Sahara are owned by the same business group. All I am saying is everybody should be made aware of the situation and then let the free market determine the winners and the losers.
I will be back in the big mango shortly. I am looking forward to it, but you won't find me buying drinks in these Coyote bars. That's for dang sure. [/QUOTE]I don't visit Midnite, Sahara, Kiss or any of the other bars owned by the Arab.
Complete waste of time. Soi Cowboy would be a lot better if they got rid of these places.
[QUOTE=Lgjg24; 1116678]I just arrived in Bangkok tonight, staying at Dream hotel. Its no problem to bring a girl back. Got a rate of $57 / night so great deal for a hotel in NY that costs $400 / night. Very nice, if you like W hotels you will like it here.
This is my 1st time here and the prices seem crazy. I was quoted 4, 000 baht LT at almost every bar on soi cowboy.
Tonight from the lookers. Others can be less but not really cute girls. Its crazy, someone must be driving the prices up because it wasnt just midnight and sahara. All clubs had same prices. There were some really hot girls in Midnight but these prices are crazy. ST were asking 2000.
I got a girl to come down to 2500 LT but after long negotiations and it was late. Attitudes seem to be quite snobby and business like from the hot ones.
Anyways just a quick update on the current scene. [/QUOTE]I had reservations at Dream for my December '10 trip but had to cancel the whole thing.
Yes, seems that there is a huge jump in ST / LT pricing lately and with NP looking like it's on a steep decline, I think it may get worse.
Thanks for your report.
[QUOTE=Tommylove; 1116601]I would like to rebut your statement that anyone who pays 3000 baht to a Thai working girl is a loser.
So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one. [/QUOTE]Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that working girls should be treated with respect and in my view, they deserve respect just like people in any other professions. I can count on my own good experiences as the result of treating working girls with respect.
But I would caution over-paying as a way to show respect; I am not advocating hard bargaining either-after all, good sex requires not just respect, it needs chemistry. At least for me, there would be little chemistry left, if I had to bargain strenuously for sex.
So if the price seemed exorbitant, I would counter-offer, based on my view of market rates, the quality of the girl and the content of the services. I am happy to 'overpay' somewhere between 20-50% if I am really tempted. If the girl turned down my offer, I would just walk. But respect can take other forms too.
One example, years ago back in late 1980's in Singapore, I had a very busty Malaysian Chinese girl with a pair of beautiful round, firm shape of breasts and pink, perky nipples. She wore a G-string and had a very neatly trimmed pussy showing very fair labia majora, something not too common in SE Asia back then. Ten minutes after we started, I sensed she was not well, so I told her we could stop and hand job would do as she was a big turn-on, I had to come somehow-but I obliged by ejaculating ASAP. We then chatted for the remaining hour. It was a good conversation and I still paid her the rate for full sex as promised. Afterwards, for the next several years until she retired and married one of her clients, she would often 'undercharge' me and would be willing to go extra miles to try something new.
In short, respect can take many forms, but don't expect any good outcome, it is just the basics of decency.
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]Anyway, I had no intention of falling in love with her, so I felt bad toward the end of the week. Getting so much sex and not paying anything except providing room and breakfast, so I offered to take her shopping. She was careful not to ask for anything too expensive, to impress on me that she was not a gold digger. And of course, she wrote me quite a bit once I was home, hoping for a rematch.[/QUOTE]Treat a Thai woman right, and she will truly "love you long time."
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1116780]You felt bad for not paying to fuck? Even though you provided her ... YOUR first world companionship? You value HER peasant 3rd world hoe time MORE than YOUR time...[/QUOTE]Sometimes it is certainly easy to understand the contempt most Thais feel for the sort of foreigners who end up here.
[QUOTE=Asian Phetish; 1116584]Hi,
I am thinking of going to Bangkok during Chinese new year. Are all the fun places like nana plaza and Soi Cowboy still open? If so is it busier or quieter than usual. Sorry for the question but I don't know if Thai's celebrate Chinese new year or not.[/QUOTE]I certainly hope so. I booked tickets for next week and I'm staying there 7 days. I'd will be a complete fucking waste if the city is shutting down. Can anyone advise is it still good? Do prices rise in Chinese New Year?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1116650]I agree, that's why I called attention to these 2 bars after another poster reported on how hot their girls where. There is probably a small minority of guys that like this type of bar. That's fine with me, to each their own. But what I object to is the bait and switch tactics employed by these establishments which is especially offensive to me
I understand that Midnight and Sahara are owned by the same business group. All I am saying is everybody should be made aware of the situation and then let the free market determine the winners and the losers.
You won't find me buying drinks in these Coyote bars. That's for dang sure. [/QUOTE]Thank you for making me aware of the situation. Hence, if we are interested in a cute girl at those bars, we all should ask them if they can be barfined before we buy them a lady's drink.
I still will go back because they offer something that a lot of other bars don't offer which is full nudity and good entertainment. If you look at the menu at those bars, several other bars are listed as affiliated (probably owned by the same group) , and those are the ones that offer full nudity.
2 other go-go bars that are not affiliated which has decent entertainment are Suzy Wongs and Long Gun. Long Gun had a show in which there were 2 topless girls. They were just rubbing soap on each other. Interesting, but I want to see tongue!
[QUOTE=Lgjg24;1116678]these prices are crazy. ST were asking 2000.[/QUOTE]Plus the barfine. These prices have been the standard rack rate the past couple of years. Yup, $90 US dollars (2700/30) for short time. Although short time is 2 or 3 hours (actually, if it is 3 hours, they might complain). In the US, it will be $150-200 for 30 minutes on backpage for decent. Inflation plus girls asking for more, and Thai Baht getting stronger; the good old days has been long gone for many years.
For the go-go scene, that's why I prefer Sabang and Angeles. No nudity, but it's cheaper, especially if you like to barfine 2 or 3 girls at a time.
PS: Does it matter if the bars are owned by Arabs or any other nationality. I like bars to be owned by people that are connected. Then the bar can have nasty shows without being bothered.
[QUOTE=Old Asia Hand;1116802]Sometimes it is certainly easy to understand the contempt most Thais feel for the sort of foreigners who end up here.[/QUOTE]I agree. The types of MrBiggy do not deserve any respect. FIRST World? My friend, the FIRST world has already slipped and is exporting its riff-raff to better countries around the world.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1116780]I bet 10 bucks YOU never finished high school. Make it 20.[/QUOTE]He might not have finished high school, but did you start high school?
Any recent reports on Insomnia Disco?
Is it a freelancer pickup joint or is it trying to be a legit club?
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]I bowed with genuine respect[/QUOTE]FYI.
The locals wai here, not bow
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]she bolted straight up and asked,"you know you're paying for this right?"[/QUOTE]Yes, some WGs do have a way of making you feel special.
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one.[/QUOTE]What?
Hi,
Anybody who has recently been there and can give a brief report?
I will go to BKK in 3 weeks.
Thanks.
FV
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]I would like to rebut your statement that anyone who pays 3000 baht to a Thai working girl is a loser.[/QUOTE]It depends where the guy gets the girl from. If he's dropping 3000ST for a nana, cowboy, Pattaya, or freelancer than, yah he is a loser siimply because he is paying above market price.
If he is paying market price 3000ST (BKK massage parlor) than he is not an idiot.
The biggest losers are the guys sponsoring working girls and allowing them to still work in the p4p scene. These guys are COMPLETE losers and are a disgrace to the mongering game.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1116843]Any recent reports on Insomnia Disco?
Is it a freelancer pickup joint or is it trying to be a legit club? [/QUOTE]Loads of freelancers. Especially after 1-2 AM.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1116780]Yo man are you kidding? You felt bad for not paying to fuck? Even though you provided her room, board and YOUR first world companionship? I guess you undervalue YOUR time, that proves you are in fact LOSER. You value HER peasant 3rd world hoe time MORE than YOUR time. I bet 10 bucks YOU never finished high school. Make it 20. ....................[/QUOTE]It is attitude like these that gives the rest of us folks a bad name. If they did not provide, you wouldn't be in this game in the first place. Please go back to your home and take the $10. 00 SWs you like so much.
It's a matter of relativity. For people who can afford it 6K Baht is pocket change. And look at what he got. A week of good sex and even after buying stuff he came out cheaper than you paid, the loser. So I applaud TL for his approach. Well done.
[QUOTE=Lgjg24;1116678]but these prices are crazy. ST were asking 2000.[/QUOTE]All the ones I've tried drop to 1500 at the drop of a hat, and I've had offers for 1000 from ones I've had before when I come back. And I know guys who think I overpay.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117067]10 years in bangers and all I see is euro-trash and ozzie trash too, guys with NO formal education, just losers escaping the west to find greener pastures. Lets be honest here, many of the westerners here are losers. I have 2 masters from the top uni in the world, so get off my the-ck. In your face what?[/QUOTE]Well aren't you Mr Amazing then man. Two Masters hey?
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117067]10 years in bangers and all I see is euro-trash and ozzie trash too, guys with NO formal education, just losers escaping the west to find greener pastures. Lets be honest here, many of the westerners here are losers. I have 2 masters from the top uni in the world, so get off my the-ck. In your face what?[/QUOTE]Just curious?
With all your experience and education in possession of 2 masters from the top uni in the world where has it gotten you? You're here with the rest of us losers of ISG, why didn't you log-on and sign up for [url]www.IMG.org[/url] (InternationalMastersexGuide) that's where all the other guys who think their shit don't smell hang out. But since you're here bragging about how you did this / that and didn't have to pay for pussy while in Thailand. Wouldn't it have been smarter, cheaper to just stay home and enjoy the fruits of your masters instead of having to lower yourself unless you're just another loser yourself hiding behind the Internet / Soap box claiming to be something you're not!
If I had 2 masters, I certainly would be using it along with my energy to enhance my monatery respectibility instead of hanging here with the rest of us old loser. Maybe you are more like us than you think?
Personally you are on the wrong board and I'm pretty sure you would agree with me. So sorry Jackson another new member driven away again by us old losers.
LBM
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1117021]All the ones I've tried drop to 1500 at the drop of a hat, and I've had offers for 1000 from ones I've had before when I come back. And I know guys who think I overpay.[/QUOTE]2000 ST is normal now, especially for the top go-gos. When did you have offers for 1000? I've been to Cowboy and Nana at least 10 times during this high season. None of the girls are willing to take 1500, or, if they are, it's only for 1 hour. And they are obviously getting these rates since it is the same across the board, apart from the ugly girls. Perhaps in April they can be had for 1500 when all the stupid tourists go home. But for now, if you want a go-go girl, you're going to have to pay 2, 000.
Personally, I'm done with Cowboy. I'm off to Pattaya this weekend in search of better service, better attitudes, and cheaper prices.
This forum seems to have become crowded with chronic overpayers as well as those of low mental faculties.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1116020]But then I woke up, I am not an old fat man, I am still a young handsome guy with an education and GAME to pick up bitches, so guys if you are young you can get the hoes for free. Only the old losers in asia pay. Rule #1[/QUOTE]So, this young handsome guy with an education is not able to pick up bitches at home and has to travel halfway around the world to get free hoes?
[QUOTE=Tommylove; 1116601]So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one. [/QUOTE]Yep, I see what you're saying. Sadly tho, the example you provide couldn't be taken as a guideline as far as the generosity is concerned IMO. P4P is business, don't you ever forget that. Being generous and respectful like you say, on nine times out of ten will let you be the guy some working gal is talking about the next day when she's with her friends bragging about how much cash she milked out of this funny guy making it seem like it was all thanks to her sharpness or that she is some kind of big deal. You know what I'm talking about. Like she beat you at it.
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]Afterwards, I bowed with genuine respect[/QUOTE]This tells me everything I need to know.
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1116780]Yo man are you kidding? You felt bad for not paying to fuck? Even though you provided her room, board and YOUR first world companionship? I guess you undervalue YOUR time, that proves you are in fact LOSER. You value HER peasant 3rd world hoe time MORE than YOUR time. I bet 10 bucks YOU never finished high school. Make it 20. I mean no offense player but really anyone who has a real education and a thinker can read your prose and extract that you have a low-self esteem issue. Place more value on your time, are you ugly or something? There are billions are asians living hand-t0-mouth, I bet 10 bucks your 10 girl is one of them, and for her to be with YOU, a first world male, hey thats bigger than a lottery ticket.
I can't believe losers from the west pay 6000 bhat to bang peasant hoes, really. Hey mate I have a bridge for sale, would you be intersted? Only 6000 bhat. [/QUOTE]Is this for real? So we have a fellow member with SOME experience explaining how he maxed out on the GFE and got to be inside the real Thailand for a whilem and we have a pimped out newbie wanker who, well, wanks and think he is having a great time while badmouthing others.
I think the modus operandi (how's that for en educated phrase?) of the poster who experienced a real GFE is a good one. If I can pay 6, 000 baht and get that kind of experience repeatedly then it is a bargain when compared to 1, 500 for someone who honestly doesn't give a shit and who merely puts up the expected facade of fake moans and attempts any shortcut to make me cum.
I will leave the fakes (including blingy Rolexes, pimped R-Rs and the rest of the yo-crowd paraphernalia) to those who are willing to pay for it, and take the REAL deal when offered.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117093]Looks like some guys here got penis envy[/QUOTE]And inner beauty was invented by ugly people. Congratulations! You are the first ever ISG poster to make to my ignore-list. That is quite an achievement, considering you joined 5 days ago, and speaks well of your two master-level degrees.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117132]That a lot of you guys make a big deal about being "long-time" posters, and thereby put down newbies who just signed up. Are you kidding? This is just another reflection of simple-minded people.[/QUOTE]I agree! I have posted a few times with different names over the years only to get ridiculed. I have been a monger to many places in the world for over 15 years. And probably fucked all types. From $3000 / night high class escorts from Los Angeles (excesses of a rock band member) to $5 working girls in Davao. So I just keep my mouth shut.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117067]10 years in bangers and all I see is euro-trash and ozzie trash too, guys with NO formal education, just losers escaping the west to find greener pastures. Lets be honest here, many of the westerners here are losers. I have 2 masters from the top uni in the world, so get off my the-ck. In your face what?[/QUOTE]Mr two masters, for someone who claims a high level of education, your writing leaves a lot to be desired. For example, you use "Lets, shouldn't that be Let's? Pimply faced, pre pubescent children are not allowed on the site. I suggest you go back to your computer games.
Decided to make an early start and instead of waiting for the bars to open I picked up one of the girls waiting by the Foodland corner on Sukhamavit around midafternoon. Her name as she gave it was Oum. Average appearance, no looker but not ugly either and I tend not to care once I've started pounding away.
Opening bid of B1000 was accepted with no argument. From the looks of the other girls I think I might have overbid. And we off to the hotel. No real GFE to speak of and she didn't even give the appearance of being much into it, but she was willing enough and it's hard to argue with the price.
Overall I think you'll get a better experience with the girls in the bars and massage parlours, but if you're on a budget the freelancers can be had for less than half the cost of the others (once you take into account drinks, barfine / base massage, etc).
There's a flood of black-market viagra / cialis / etc hitting the stalls along Sukhumavit at the moment. It seems highly doubtful to me that it's real, but has anyone been game enough to try it?
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117067]10 years in bangers and all I see is euro-trash and ozzie trash too, guys with NO formal education, just losers escaping the west to find greener pastures. Lets be honest here, many of the westerners here are losers. I have 2 masters from the top uni in the world, so get off my the-ck. In your face what?[/QUOTE]Ha ha! Oddly enough (and I hate to brag) I have degrees from some of the top universities (and actually I don't think you can get 2 masters from the top university). But it counts for f*k-all on this site, and gives me no more insight into Thailand, human nature or indeed sex. I fully appreciate the comments and insights provided by the guys here. Some smarter than me, some less smart. Some richer, some less rich. But most have some useful information to impart.
What is a loser? I wouldn't necessarily follow the same lifestyle choices (or dress sense) as some of the farangs I see in Thailand. But it seems to me that most of the people I meet through these forums are just regular guys looking to have a bit of extra excitement and pleasure in their lives. Am I a loser? I have a good job, well-travelled, family back home but just occasionally I like to have a beer in a dingy bar with a sexy young Thai girl, then take her upstairs and do the dirty. :)
Not quite sure what you're problem is, other than a desire to troll. But why not either shut up or put up some useful information, and show us how valuable those 'masters' were?
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1114501]Oh heavens. And risk being called stupid![/QUOTE]Stupid? In what way?
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117067]10 years in bangers and all I see is euro-trash and ozzie trash too, guys with NO formal education, just losers escaping the west to find greener pastures. Lets be honest here, many of the westerners here are losers. I have 2 masters from the top uni in the world, so get off my the-ck. In your face what?[/QUOTE]Enlighten please. Which is the top university?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1114627]Chemistry, those are the hardest and worst. The sex is good / great along with chemistry they have learned to hold back in getting you to pay. This is a test also to see how cheap you might be or what they can expect from you in the future. Are you a man or women type test? The " I can pay myself method " is on the same line that a bargirl or freelancer tells someone " I just got here a few days ago and you are my first customer thing " They have been taught to tell us this since to many it does make a difference if they hear that the girl hasn't been in the business a long time.
[/QUOTE]I can see the point you are making. This particular 30+ year old I've been BFing for a few months here and there. We both know I'm not her first. I know that I'm not marrying or sponsoring her as I know what I'm looking for in a relationship and BG is not high on the list. She must be aware as well since I've BFed others from her place of employment even after buying her a drink. But I think that for both of us it is nice sometimes to be with someone you feel comfortable with, without pressure of how things will turn out, while still have a really enjoyable time.
[QUOTE=Bangkok Xx Bob;1117240]Enlighten please. Which is the top university?[/QUOTE]School of Hard Knocks
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1115805]The guy posted his email address too. A definate no no.
Where's Jackson when we need him? [/QUOTE]At the Fake Tittie Bareback Balloon club?
[QUOTE=Levitraboner;1116078]I come to this site (and pay) specifically to avoid this! Could somebody PLEASE eliminate this BS![/QUOTE]Keep your junk in your pants. Just ignore the post and move on. Unless the very existence of the post here is making you question your own manhood.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1116760]Treat a Thai woman right, and she will truly "love you long time."[/QUOTE]Spoken like one who knows.
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1117083]2000 ST is normal now, especially for the top go-gos. When did you have offers for 1000? I've been to Cowboy and Nana at least 10 times during this high season.
Personally, I'm done with Cowboy. I'm off to Pattaya this weekend in search of better service, better attitudes, and cheaper prices. [/QUOTE]Most gogo girls in Pat are now asking 2000ST, but I got two gogo girls from walking (20yo or below, no kids, slim, no tattos) to go with me for 1000ST earlier this month. I recommend never giving into their ridiculous high price quotes and always ignore the advice from guys who say stuff like "the going rate for gogo girls in Pattaya is 1500" or "the going rate for beer bar girls is 1000ST" Bargain hard, bang hard, and don't spoil the girls! Have fun.
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1117260]Princeton
In your face[/QUOTE]I think it is about time for Jackson to 86 this clown.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1117253]Most gogo girls in Pat are now asking 2000ST, but I got two gogo girls from walking (20yo or below, no kids, slim, no tattos) to go with me for 1000ST earlier this month. I recommend never giving into their ridiculous high price quotes and always ignore the advice from guys who say stuff like "the going rate for gogo girls in Pattaya is 1500" or "the going rate for beer bar girls is 1000ST" Bargain hard, bang hard, and don't spoil the girls! Have fun.[/QUOTE]And indeed I have just agreed 1000bht for ST with a gogo dancer. Going back to pick her up in a few minutes when the barfine drops.
[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter;1117263]I think it is about time for Jackson to 86 this clown.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree.
It was obvious from his first post.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1117253]Most gogo girls in Pat are now asking 2000ST, but I got two gogo girls from walking (20yo or below, no kids, slim, no tattos) to go with me for 1000ST earlier this month. I recommend never giving into their ridiculous high price quotes and always ignore the advice from guys who say stuff like "the going rate for gogo girls in Pattaya is 1500" or "the going rate for beer bar girls is 1000ST" Bargain hard, bang hard, and don't spoil the girls! Have fun.[/QUOTE]Those high prices are set in stone for the top 10% of the girls in the go-go bars.
The rack rate will be 2000 or 1500 short time depending on the go-go bar.
You can get cheaper (probably) for the lower half of the girls in terms of looks in the go-go bars.
You probably can get cheaper when it gets closer to closing time.
You might be able to get cheaper if you know her previously.
You might be able to get cheaper if you are a hot looking stud.
You might be able to get a discount if you go to the lower tier bars.
BUT, you cannot get a discount for the top 3 or 4 girls at the go-go bar during prime time!
SORRY! But people like us that pay that higher price in the go-go bars has now set the market price for the good looking girls during prime time.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1117083]Personally, I'm done with Cowboy. I'm off to Pattaya this weekend in search of better service, better attitudes, and cheaper prices.[/QUOTE]For better service and cheaper prices I would recommend Angeles.
[QUOTE=Sick Boy3;1117137]I agree! I have posted a few times with different names over the years only to get ridiculed. I have been a monger to many places in the world for over 15 years. And probably fucked all types. From $3000 / night high class escorts from Los Angeles (excesses of a rock band member) to $5 working girls in Davao. So I just keep my mouth shut.[/QUOTE]See Sick Boy3,
See its not where you have been or what you have seen and how many you have fucked. Sometimes I'm not saying you but guys like MrBigy come on the board and say something and us old fuckers can see right through B. S. It is so obvious that it irritates the fuck out of us along with it being stupid.
As for you. If you have the balls to say something even if it's not right. Stick up for it and answer your attackers changing your name over the years because you get ridicule doesn't solve the problem. All you are doing is coming back with new clothes trying to hide your appearance but when you open your mouth everyone know it is you! In the end if you were my friend I would tell you " show some fucking balls " and stick with Sick Boy3, and don't come back as Sick Boy4.
Enjoy. LBM
[QUOTE=Pita123;1117241]I can see the point you are making. This particular 30+ year old I've been BFing for a few months here and there. We both know I'm not her first. I know that I'm not marrying or sponsoring her as I know what I'm looking for in a relationship and BG is not high on the list. She must be aware as well since I've BFed others from her place of employment even after buying her a drink. But I think that for both of us it is nice sometimes to be with someone you feel comfortable with, without pressure of how things will turn out, while still have a really enjoyable time.[/QUOTE]I can respect that! As I too like to feel confortable with someone but now I'm like a snake I sleep with my eyes open and a finger on the trigger.
LBM
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1117260]Princeton
In your face[/QUOTE]Really! That's nothing! Is that all you got? Princeton. I was expecting much more than that? Did you get in because your parents attended and have made donations when you were growing up so you could get in too!
I have a degree from W. S and B. R. And decades of experience In their faces!
LBM
"There is nothing so stupid as the educated man if you get him off the thing he was educated in."
"If a man is a fool, you don't train him out of being a fool by sending him to university. You merely turn him into a trained fool, ten times more dangerous."
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1116940]These guys are COMPLETE losers and are a disgrace to the mongering game.[/QUOTE]I completely disagree. I love these guys. They give the girls enough money so that sometimes they are looking for fun and fuck us (expats) for free.
[QUOTE=MrBigy;1117132]That a lot of you guys make a big deal about being "long-time" posters, and thereby put down newbies who just signed up. Are you kidding? This is just another reflection of simple-minded people.[/QUOTE]Looks like Penbelly's back. With a new name
WTF does a Uni Degree have to do with the ISG?
Many of us have Uni Degrees and highly paid employment. As was said before, it does not amount to anything here.
We are all here for the fun and games of P4P, Dating and the likes. Also, I have been here for quite a while. Young, have money but I have noticed one thing, girls tend to like older guys more (Bastards).
Why not have fun and respect other people's ideas even if they don't fit your views?
Stop spending time bickering and start posting relevant information about your 10 years experience here dating as you call them "3rd world hoes"
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1116807]I certainly hope so. I booked tickets for next week and I'm staying there 7 days. I'd will be a complete fucking waste if the city is shutting down. Can anyone advise is it still good? Do prices rise in Chinese New Year?[/QUOTE]During Chinese New Year, the hotel room rates are often higher (not everywhere, but in many hotels) and the room occupancy too. But pussy is still available and the city is certainly not shutting down.
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]... First, I have noticed that there is a correlation, in general, between the currency exchange rate and the price of pussy. In countries with a higher standard of living, prostitution is simply more expensive. The US and UK, with strong dollar and pound sterling, have the highest escort prices. Canada, Germany and Netherlands all have decently priced currency and pussy. And countries like Cuba and Thailand and Cambodia, with weak currency, generally provide the best bargains. In fact, an effective economic indicator to gauge a country's strength is what I call the "blowjob-index." The idea is that the value of a local currency generally maps to the cost of sex in that country. In other words, there's a correlation between the strength of the local economy and the price of a blowjob, just like the Big Mac Index. So in the UK, a blowjob might cost you $150-200, but in Amsterdam about $60-80. Then look at that country's currency. A hundred Pound Sterling would run about 175 bucks, a 100 Netherland Guilders (pre-Euro) would cost you $60. Voila! An index![/QUOTE]It's not a matter of "currency exchange rate" nor about the "currency strength". In 2002, the US dollar was much stronger than the euro, for instance, and nowadays, it's the opposite. It didn't have much incidence on the local cost of pussy in the European countries or in the USA in the meanwhile. It's much more complex than that, and you have to take into account the local average monthly wages, the local cost-of-living, the local domestic purchasing power, etc.
By the way, I already introduced the "Local Pussy Index" notion several months ago: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1054561#post1054561[/url]
But it was mainly to analyze the relative evolution of the local prices during a given period of time.
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1116601]... the typical head of household in the city of Isaan makes roughly $200 per year income. Thus, when the family sends a daughter to Bangkok to ply the oldest trade, she is in fact, sacrificing her life to save her family. Oddly, they'll send one son to the monastery to make up for the karmic implications of selling a daughter into prostitution. The typical Isaan girl sends home 20, 000+ ThB per month, or about 80% of her salary...[/QUOTE]Sorry, but your figures are wrong! The average MONTHLY wage in Thailand is approximately US$300. In Isaan, it's about US$150-200 per MONTH (certainly not US$200 per YEAR!). They are not rich, but not that poor, man!
Don't say that a girl is "sacrificing her life to save her family", because that's not true in most cases. I wrote this earlier in another thread: contrary to what many people think, prostitution is not a job of last resort for Thai women to survive, but it's rather a vocation for those (and mostly are uneducated farm girls) who want non-essential material possessions that they can't otherwise afford. In the poor villages, you don't need more than 3000 baht per month per person to live as a local, but that's when you don't buy non-essential material possessions.
Before becoming prostitutes, the local girls often worked in regular jobs, as a farm girl, or in a factory, or as an employee in a restaurant, in a small shop, in a 7-Eleven or in a supermarket, for instance. They probably did not earn much more than 6000 or 7000 baht per month before becoming a prostitute, but that's already sufficient for a local to live a decent enough life in this country. But of course, it doesn't allow them to buy often many non-essential items.
The average Thai prostitute spends a great part of her earnings in non-essential things (she also sends a substantial part of her money to her family -- I would say about 50% in most cases, sometimes lesser than that, but not often more than that, according to the testimony of many working girls -- though, but her family often uses a non-negligible part of this money to buy non-essential items too). For instance, the average local prostitute would buy a new cellular phone every three months or so only because she can afford it and to show it to her "friends". The local prostitutes also gamble a lot and are often meth-amphetamines ("ya ba") consumers, again, because they can afford it, but those are certainly not essential needs.
By the way, you seem to believe that a local prostitute earns on average about 25000 baht per month (if 80% of her monthly income is about 20000 baht). That's usually a lot more than that (unless she's old and unattractive), especially for the girls working in the farang-orientated P4P market, even if the girl doesn't have any sponsor. Even if the girl is a freelancer who works just 20 days per month and who only has one ST and one LT session per day, in Pattaya, she would already easily earn 30000 baht per month (and she can do much better than that) and about 50000 baht per month in Bangkok. That's for freelancers, working not too much and asking reasonable fees (and with no sponsor), so, imagine what the best go-go girls are earning in Bangkok!
[quote=typhun; 1116134]has anyone found a girl to hire without gag reflex? i'd really love to find one who can give some quality esophageal squeeze treatment without anyone getting harmed in the act.
i've searched the forums and seen a lot mentions of "deep throat" but i suspect people don't always mean the same thing. at least i've yet to find someone with the talent to take it all in and hold.
hard to choose which forum to ask, but i'll be staying in bangkok and pattay next week, so would feel lucky to know of any recommendations.
feel free to pm or post depending on how specific the info you might be willing to share. thanks much! [/quote]try the blowjob bars ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, star of light, kangaroo club, etc.) : it's your best bet for "deep throat" in bangkok. just explain beforehand that's what you want and you should find at least one "specialist" in those places.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1117334]For better service and cheaper prices I would recommend Angeles.[/QUOTE]Ok so cowboy girls are spoiled by the money and glamor and attention.
Don't go to angeles. The girls are the same only they are more affectionate like girlfriends and I am living.
There.
But I go to Bangkok and Pattaya also just for variety. Sometimes I find a sweet heart there.
Also I bring my filipina girl with me. You may end up being one of the guys that understand.
Why after hanging out with the girls in Bangkok.
Don't get me wrong I do love thai girls and luckily for me my filipina girl.
Loves to lick thai pussy and eat thai food. At 40 kilos she needs some food.
Ok joking about the part of don't go to angeles. My favorite place for bar hops and bar girls that
Are so sweet and adorable.
Do you think all the hos at the Beer Garden say to their friends like all the guys in there,"man the women in here are old, fat and ugly. But I remember when."?
[QUOTE=Goyave;1117530]according to the testimony of many working girls[/QUOTE]Can you please submit a copy of this "testimony" for the record?
[QUOTE=Goyave;1117530]so, imagine what the best go-go girls are earning in Bangkok![/QUOTE]I've figured out that they make 150k+ monthly. Spoiled rotten!
[QUOTE=Mealticket;1117555]Can you please submit a copy of this "testimony" for the record?[/QUOTE]English is not my native language and it's not my first nor my last mistake, alas, I'm afraid! It seems that our French "témoignage" is a word that has a more general meaning than "testimony" in English as it is not only a legal term, but it also means "account" (among many other meanings) in this context. Sorry about this misuse of "testimony"...
Met a real beautiful non-pro girl back in 2009 on-line on Thai Love Links. When I visited BKK for a 6-month stint, we tried real hard to date and all that. Whe worked in the assembly line of a fairly large tech assembly plant. Her wages were great at 9000 bt a month. Her sister got her the job and was afraid that she would lose it because of me (wise since I wasn't looking for long term but wanted to tap this 19yo beauty. Her work schedule was 12 hrs a day. 6 days work with 1 day holiday (day off). It became clear to me that this was not going to work as her home and work was out at "Future Park". To have available as much as I needed meant that she would have had to quit her job and became dependent on me. Yeah, that's not going to happen. That's the problem with non-pros. They have to work a normal job and seriously, there's no free time if they do. Her holiday was meant for shopping (with me buying little things and dinner, I'll never understand why she always wanted KFC, I could always give other lick'in good options)!
Goyave's got a perfect handle on prostitution as a job in Thailand. Most do it because it is very easy work and many times what they could earn any other way, though the regular jobs available do pay enough to subsist.
Regarding your estimates of prostitute incomes, Goyave, I just had a conversation the other day with a very pretty (though a little too dark to be really 'Thai style') young freelancer in Isaan. With nearly all Thai customers paying roughly 500-800 for short times she brings in 20, 000 baht a month consistently, working around 3 hours per day, and working no more than 20 days per month at most. She says she has no interest in working more or going to some tourist spot, or to work at a Soapy or karaoke, as that's plenty of money for her and she dislikes having to deal with bosses / coworkers, even though she knows she could easily double her income.
when i went to poseidon during my last trip, i arrived around 4 pm. spent 30 minutes having a drink and watching the rotation. also, i skipped lunch so i could fuck on an empty stomach, but i ended up feeling a bit famished. so i ordered a plate of pad thai on the 3rd floor model lounge for a quick snack. it was remarkably good; i shared with my guide / pal, simon.
my theory is that the best gals are usually busy, so they're only in the fishbowl or the 3rd floor model lounge for a few minutes at a time. if you pick from those languishing in the fishbowl, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. so i watch as new girls pop in and out. once a cutie showed up that floated my boat, i asked my ex-pat pal to ask the papasan in thai if that particular gal is good. they usually tell a regular the truth, so i get the straight scoop via my expat pal. for me, a farang newbie, the papasan would be much less helpful. however, my pal introduces me to the papasan, and we shake hands and we're all smiles as i compliment him on the beauty of his girls. he's as charming as a used car salesman who's caught the scent of blood in the water. he encourages me to take my time, while rushing others.
i pick a chick a little after 4:30 pm, and then i'm in the room for 90 minutes. it's a stellar session with gam, and i'm out by 6. even if it's scripted, it's my first time, so it's quite entertaining to me. afterwards, i hang out for a drink because, damn, there's nothing more fun than just looking at hot chicks who beam at you with that come hither smile. then we're off to dinner to kinnaree, one of the best thai restaurants in bangkok. afterwards, we head out to kill some time in the bars and a coyote club. at the end of the night, i pick up a looker for a short time, and head back to the hotel. it's a good short time, i'm happy and throw her back into the pool. i check my email, and find that i can't sleep. there's too much energy in the air. i decide to go back out and just walk around.
in the lobby, i realize that most of all, i love watching these thai girls leaving the hotel after a short time tryst. one lovely with long black hair all the way to her ass. she smiles at me in the lobby, half in shame and half in hope that i'll ask her to join me for a rebound session. she swings her hair around and i watch her walk out, her naturally athletic legs so shapely in heels. man, i'm still kinda horny, but need a longer refractory period, aka penis recharge time. so soon i am out and about and it's fucking packed out on the streets at 2:30 am. all the massage gals are waving at me. all the bargirls walking home are smiling at me. i stop for some watermelon from a street vendor. ah, heaven on a stick. the heat of the night is just right, it envelopes me. i am happy just walking around in this amazing city.
however, as i walk around, nothing quite grabs me. so i decide to get a two hour traditional thai massage. at 3 am. i find a promising oily and enter to find several woman. one looks promising and we fall into the ritual that precedes a massage. the washing of the feet, the slow walk up the stairs, disrobing in a cubicle, waiting. when she begins the massage, i fall asleep about ten minutes into it. and when i open my eyes, i'm sporting an erection, and catch the gal checking her condoms. she sees i'm awake and actually starts begging for me to do an extra. wow, that's a change from the usa, where i'm usually doing the begging. i agree to a handjob for 500 baht, because, well, i'm too fucking exhausted to fuck any more and i just want to be serviced.
ah, her manual ministrations are heavenly, and i am lost in the sweet bliss of ejaculating once more, into the soft warm hand of a pretty smiling thai masseuse. man, i love this fucking country.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1117706]English is not my native language and it's not my first nor my last mistake, alas, I'm afraid! It seems that our French "témoignage" is a word that has a more general meaning than "testimony" in English as it is not only a legal term, but it also means "account" (among many other meanings) in this context. Sorry about this misuse of "testimony"...[/QUOTE]You've not misused the word.
"Testimony" can also mean in English to give an account.
It doesn't have to be in court or other formal setting.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1117627]I've figured out that they make 150k+ monthly. Spoiled rotten![/QUOTE]Why fault a person, man or woman, for making as much money as they can in their chosen work? That really is their own business, and no one else's. I say more power to the person who can maximize their earning potential.
If for some reason a "service provider's" price is more than you care to pay, just say,"no thank you," and move on. There's plenty more who will do the deed at a price to your liking. Maybe the ones who will "go with you" for your price are just not quite as young and beautiful as you dream about when you are alone in your room.
The thinking that somehow a service provider "owns" something to the foreign mongering community, and therefore should accept a lesser fee than desired, is counter to reason and absurd.
Hey, some men drive Mercedes, and some men take the bus. It's just the way of the world. Beautiful Thai women figured this out a long time before there was ever a three-ring Pattaya flea circus, or a Soi Cowboy meat market.
you don't have to explain in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. they are trained.
[quote=goyave;1117536]try the blowjob bars ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, star of light, kangaroo club, etc.) : it's your best bet for "deep throat" in bangkok. just explain beforehand that's what you want and you should find at least one "specialist" in those places.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Goyave;1117706]English is not my native language and it's not my first nor my last mistake, alas, I'm afraid! It seems that our French "témoignage" is a word that has a more general meaning than "testimony" in English as it is not only a legal term, but it also means "account" (among many other meanings) in this context. Sorry about this misuse of "testimony"...[/QUOTE]You didn't really misuse the word. The closest equivalent between it, and a French word that I can think of would be "attestation" though temoignage comes close as well. French is my second language, and I lived for years in Paris, and have realized that there aren't always precise equivalents between the two languages.
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Heat? Its rather cool at the moment at night.
[QUOTE=Tommylove;1117802]The heat of the night is just right, it envelopes me. I am happy just walking around in this amazing city[/QUOTE]
Got here yesterday evening and decided to go with outcall with Bam from Mango based on some of the recommendations here. Wow, she's amazing; shower with BBBJ, then 69 and several positions for the first pop. She gave me a nice massage before going onto round two; she offered anal without me asking (it was very tight; I'm not very big, but she's very petite). I decided to just keep her overnight, so we went for dinner and drinks and then came back to try for round 3 (had to finish with handjob, too tired). Had another round when we got up this morning, I'm a bit drained right now but it was a fun night.
BTW, I'm here for the week until Saturday, so if anyone is looking for a wingman, just send me a PM.
Mandarin (upstairs) : Talent level has dropped a bit. Definitely a few ladyboys in the swimwear squadron. Asked the mamasan why they have them but she denied it. Asked one of the girls and she denied it too but then smiled after she said it. Shame.
Rainbow 4: Never understood why people say the best girls are here. Lots of big thighs and cold attitudes.
Dollhouse: I was one of only 3 or 4 customers sitting downstairs. The bored waitstaff was sitting down directing some new funny dance moves for the girls on stage, who were trying them out and laughing. A man got up to leave who was at least 75 years old, and probably more like 80, and the staff jumped up and did a few moves in front of him. Instead of leaving, the man started absolutely going for it. It wasn't a Bangkok shuffle either, he was really moving. 20 minutes went by and he was still dancing, outlasting the waitresses and a couple of the gogo dancers who had joined him until quitting because they were laughing too hard. Some new customers walked in the door and just stared at him in awe. Most fun I've had at a gogo in ages.
Baccara: Sat upstairs and watched the silicone squadron for a while. Some of these girls are pretty cute, don't know why they need all the plastic.
Shark: Couldn't find a place to sit. Left.
Tilac. I hate the seating here. If you sit on the benches, you can't see anything or interact with the girls. If you sit on the stools, people and staff are constantly bumping into you. Overrated like Rainbow 4.
Angelwitch: Enjoyed. Anyone know what happened to "Rhea", the super bubbly spastic girl full of energy who was working there all last year and seemed to be one of the best workers? If you spent any time there you definitely noticed her.
hi, which hotel were you in? oily at 3 am. must be on sukhumvit? i normally stay around silom and could not find anything like that at that time.
[quote=tommylove; 1117802]when i went to poseidon during my last trip, i arrived around 4 pm. spent 30 minutes having a drink and watching the rotation. also, i skipped lunch so i could fuck on an empty stomach, but i ended up feeling a bit famished. so i ordered a plate of pad thai on the 3rd floor model lounge for a quick snack. it was remarkably good; i shared with my guide / pal, simon.
my theory is that the best gals are usually busy, so they're only in the fishbowl or the 3rd floor model lounge for a few minutes at a time. if you pick from those languishing in the fishbowl, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. so i watch as new girls pop in and out. once a cutie showed up that floated my boat, i asked my ex-pat pal to ask the papasan in thai if that particular gal is good. they usually tell a regular the truth, so i get the straight scoop via my expat pal. for me, a farang newbie, the papasan would be much less helpful. however, my pal introduces me to the papasan, and we shake hands and we're all smiles as i compliment him on the beauty of his girls. he's as charming as a used car salesman who's caught the scent of blood in the water. he encourages me to take my time, while rushing others.
i pick a chick a little after 4:30 pm, and then i'm in the room for 90 minutes. it's a stellar session with gam, and i'm out by 6. even if it's scripted, it's my first time, so it's quite entertaining to me. afterwards, i hang out for a drink because, damn, there's nothing more fun than just looking at hot chicks who beam at you with that come hither smile. then we're off to dinner to kinnaree, one of the best thai restaurants in bangkok. afterwards, we head out to kill some time in the bars and a coyote club. at the end of the night, i pick up a looker for a short time, and head back to the hotel. it's a good short time, i'm happy and throw her back into the pool. i check my email, and find that i can't sleep. there's too much energy in the air. i decide to go back out and just walk around.
in the lobby, i realize that most of all, i love watching these thai girls leaving the hotel after a short time tryst. one lovely with long black hair all the way to her ass. she smiles at me in the lobby, half in shame and half in hope that i'll ask her to join me for a rebound session. she swings her hair around and i watch her walk out, her naturally athletic legs so shapely in heels. man, i'm still kinda horny, but need a longer refractory period, aka penis recharge time. so soon i am out and about and it's fucking packed out on the streets at 2:30 am. all the massage gals are waving at me. all the bargirls walking home are smiling at me. i stop for some watermelon from a street vendor. ah, heaven on a stick. the heat of the night is just right, it envelopes me. i am happy just walking around in this amazing city.
however, as i walk around, nothing quite grabs me. so i decide to get a two hour traditional thai massage. at 3 am. i find a promising oily and enter to find several woman. one looks promising and we fall into the ritual that precedes a massage. the washing of the feet, the slow walk up the stairs, disrobing in a cubicle, waiting. when she begins the massage, i fall asleep about ten minutes into it. and when i open my eyes, i'm sporting an erection, and catch the gal checking her condoms. she sees i'm awake and actually starts begging for me to do an extra. wow, that's a change from the usa, where i'm usually doing the begging. i agree to a handjob for 500 baht, because, well, i'm too fucking exhausted to fuck any more and i just want to be serviced.
ah, her manual ministrations are heavenly, and i am lost in the sweet bliss of ejaculating once more, into the soft warm hand of a pretty smiling thai masseuse. man, i love this fucking country.[/quote]
Hi dear forum members. Like the title says, I'm looking for Go-Go's where more goes as usually. I mean heavy groping, fingering and even fisting within the club while enjyoing some booze.
I searched the entire Thailand forum but wasn't able to locate such places in BKK.
It can be usual Go-Go's as it can be also "Lounges", where the sound is a bit more decent and the ladies wearing more classy outfit's.
[QUOTE=Payu; 1117975]Hi dear forum members. Like the title says, I'm looking for Go-Go's where more goes as usually. I mean heavy groping, fingering and even fisting within the club while enjyoing some booze.
I searched the entire Thailand forum but wasn't able to locate such places in BKK.
It can be usual Go-Go's as it can be also "Lounges", where the sound is a bit more decent and the ladies wearing more classy outfit's. [/QUOTE]You didn't look hard enough. There are a number of such places in Soi Cowboy. I haven't been there in a while so can't point you towards any in particular. I was in Patpong this weekend, and can report what you're looking for would be considered prim and proper behavior in Star of Light or behind the curtains at the Strip.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1117979]You didn't look hard enough. There are a number of such places in Soi Cowboy. I haven't been there in a while so can't point you towards any in particular. I was in Patpong this weekend, and can report what you're looking for would be considered prim and proper behavior in Star of Light or behind the curtains at the Strip. Unless things have changed the same goes for the Kangaroo Club.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiny and thanks for pointing out. You may mislead my question. As I'm not in search for BJ bar's. I know most of them in BKK but I'm looking for another feel and touch. If you know the X-Zone in Patt's then you will know what I mean.
I saw once a post where someone mentioned an more upscale bar in a higher floor, where more as the usual touching is allowed and enforced and the girls wearing better clothes as jeans and t-shirt's. To bad I wasn't able to locate the post anymore.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1117706]English is not my native language and it's not my first nor my last mistake...[/QUOTE]I don't think you have anything to apologize for. As a gringo, I marvel at the international member of this forum and how well they use the Queen's English. I live in the American Southwest and can only speak a few words of Spanish and Tagalog much less write in those languages. You and the others probably use better English than most of us native speakers.
Slim
[QUOTE=Corso 33;1117956]Hi, Which hotel were you in? Oily at 3 am. Must be on Sukhumvit? I normally stay around silom and could not find anything like that at that time.[/QUOTE]My guess when I read his post is Sabai Sabai in soi 11, in the alley just behind Cheap Charlies. Open 24/7
[QUOTE=Payu;1117987]Hi Tiny and thanks for pointing out. You may mislead my question.[/QUOTE]Actually, you may have misread the answer. Not all of the places pointed out were BJ bars, and the BJ bars mentioned are not only for BJs. You don't get exactly the same as XZ, but depending on the girl you can be as interactive as you like in a more or less public setting. More so than XZ in certain ways.
[QUOTE=Payu;1117987]I saw once a post where someone mentioned an more upscale bar in a higher floor[/QUOTE]If you find it again, let us know. Always good to learn of more places.
[quote=d cups;1117838]you don't have to explain in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. they are trained.[/quote]actually, you do have to explain. i don't think that the girls are trained at all, they are just trying to make the guy come. they get on the job training from us.
the op was talking about deepthroat without gag. it is already tough to find a girl that would deepthroat and even more difficult to find one that does not gag. usually guys that want that take pleasure in fucking a girl's throat. in thailand (and i have been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol many times) it is very difficult to really fuck a girl's throat (deep).
i think tuk (ex-sol and now at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] under a name i don't know) could do that. she can surely deepthroat but not sure about gagging.
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1118279]actually, you do have to explain. i don't think that the girls are trained at all, they are just trying to make the guy come. they get on the job training from us.
the op was talking about deepthroat without gag. it is already tough to find a girl that would deepthroat and even more difficult to find one that does not gag. usually guys that want that take pleasure in fucking a girl's throat. in thailand (and i have been to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol many times) it is very difficult to really fuck a girl's throat (deep).
i think tuk (ex-sol and now at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] under a name i don't know) could do that. she can surely deepthroat but not sure about gagging. [/quote]she was working at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s under the name som, and i had a great session with her about a year (?) ago. pity she's no longer there! was truly a fine deepthroat artist and a very nice lady to boot.
[QUOTE=Payu; 1117975]Hi dear forum members. Like the title says, I'm looking for Go-Go's where more goes as usually. I mean heavy groping, fingering and even fisting within the club while enjyoing some booze.
I searched the entire Thailand forum but wasn't able to locate such places in BKK.
It can be usual Go-Go's as it can be also "Lounges", where the sound is a bit more decent and the ladies wearing more classy outfit's. [/QUOTE]Read this: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=948933&viewfull=1#post948933[/url] Should give you some ideas
Just stopped by the Eden club. I hadn't seen much recent information on it since the change of ownership, so figured I'd drop some here. I've gone there maybe twice a year for the past 4-5 years, and I don't think the service has dropped. Eden is the kind of place where one has to direct the action, and I found the girls eager to please. Regarding quality, I didn't think it was much different than my previous visits. It was worth the visit.
I know this stuff is obvious for senior members (and well, most people who have their head on straight) but worth a reminder to anyone out here. The following is an email sent out from Thai Love Links to Platinum Members so thought I'd share it with everyone here.
As a side note- I am arriving BKK in a week or so for the 3rd time, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a decent hotel / apartment for longer stay in the center near the action, preferably with a pool and good gym on site or nearby. I'll be indoors alot due to work, and will need reliable fast internet. I'm hoping to budget between 5-7k a week, or around 20k a month. Thanks in advance for any tips / guidance on this.
Here's the email:
"Every country in the world has a small minority of people who are dishonest. The internet offers new opportunities for criminals and dishonest individuals to extort money from unsuspecting individuals. In order to avoid any problems it is better to be overly cautious.
Here are some tips and suggestions:
* NEVER send cash to someone you have only met online, but have not yet met in person.
* Common examples of scams include requests for money to pay for large items such as plane tickets, legal fees, visa fees, medical expenses, marriage annulment fees etc.
* If you ever consider assisting someone in another country who you met online to visit you then first check their visa eligibility with your Immigration department.
* NEVER send cash for someone from another country to purchase a plane ticket, pay for visa or legal costs or anything else associated with a visit to you. If you feel you must assist this person then always buy the ticket yourself directly, on the behalf of the visitor and check that the ticket can be refunded in case you need to cancel it.
* Similarly, if you must pay for visa fees, annulment fees or other large expenses always pay the expense directly after you have verified the invoice and organization issuing the invoice is genuine.
* Some people in developing countries may ask for small amounts of money to pay for internet access or phone costs for communicating with you. We recommend never sending money to anyone you have not yet met in person.
* Be suspicious of people who appear to be overly persistent or aggressive in their requests for money.
* Be particularly suspicious of people who request more money as soon as you send something."
[QUOTE=Rocksoff; 1118222]Actually, you may have misread the answer. Not all of the places pointed out were BJ bars, and the BJ bars mentioned are not only for BJs. You don't get exactly the same as XZ, but depending on the girl you can be as interactive as you like in a more or less public setting. More so than XZ in certain ways.
If you find it again, let us know. Always good to learn of more places. [/QUOTE]Payu, Rocksoff is right. Basically you can have full service sex in public or behind some flimsy curtains at Star of Light and the Strip respectively. So you'd have no problem sticking your fingers up their private parts if that's your thing. See NicFrenchy's link. There used to be a number of places in Soi Cowboy like what you're looking for, Toy Bar and After School to name a couple. I assume they're still there.
Last time I was in town I met this girl from Samui at Climax disco. She was so tall and beautiful and standing out of the crowd in her red dress that I thought for sure she had to be a LB. She kept being approached by young guys and turned them all away, I came to her with a drink in hand. Poor thing was submitted to heavy questionning on my part, I even ended up gently putting my hand up her crotch in the disco (not the classiest thing to do I would admit, it was really an alcohol-induced decision and we were in the middle of a gyrating crowd). I just had to be sure. Turns out she really is a she, works for a real estate agency in Samui and her company sent her to BKK for a few days with some other girls, they decided to finish the night at Climax more or less to make some extra money. Adding credibility to her story is the fact that she was staying at Marriott's Executive Apartments. High class lady, previously married to a Thai policeman, divorced and raises her daughter by herself. We had a short but fantastic time in spite of the fact that we were both quite drunk. She told me it was her first orgasm since her divorce, wow. She did not want any money at the end of the night, I nevertheless gave her 3K to buy some perfume and she took it. We stayed in contact by email.
Now I am back in BKK, where she was supposed to meet me, and she has not answered emails in a week or her phone today. Not wanting to waste too much time I went to Baccarat at 1:30AM last night, exactly 2 hours after my plane landed at Suvarnabhumi. Bad idea, some drunk short curly blond hair girl started kissing me, she was holding a drink and because I was watching the stage rather than her, it took a couple drinks before I realized she was actually ordering at the bar and adding her beers to my tab without anyone asking me, just because she was hanging around and occasionally holding me. I signaled a waitress that I was not paying for this girl's drinks but somehow they still served her another one. I left the bar within 15 minutes of entering after paying my drink and 2 of hers, just because Baccarat is normally my favorite bar and I did not feel like making a scandal for 10 bucks. But I am disappointed that management would let this continue after I reported it.
Walked into Shark and the choice there was much better. One beautiful girl named Nip kept smiling to me, I invited her over and bought her a drink, she was very nice (hugging, kissing in the bar) and I did not feel like scouring the discos for a better choice with the inevitable possibility of running into a LB (my phobia as you may have guessed). She quoted 4K for TLN, I countered at 3K and she just would not accept, even with the bar closing. I figured she was not going to sell herself for less and agreed to pay 4K. She was worth every baht and then some, total GFE, had a great time, she stayed until after breakfast, I may even repeat even though that is direct violation of my rule#1 (whatever rule #1 is, I think it changes every week).
Went to NEP tonight, started at Obsession bar and realized after about 2 minutes that it was full of LBs, I realize they are all ladyboys but it would be hard to tell if not for the obviously masculine type that composes about 50% of the population there. The other half just looks like girls, even in swimming suit. Left the place within 5 minutes and tried to go to Caroussel, which is closed. Ended up at "erotic bar" or something like that, on the first floor left of the plaza entrance, there is a sign outside that advertises a glass floor. I did not see a glass floor, or maybe a very small one that was not in use. I found the place interesting anyway because of the rituals that go on there, mamasan puts oil on her hands and blesses the tummies and foreheads of the girls on stage, girls draw penises on the floor with oil and at the door of the bar and some other rituals, such as for example girls drawing penises on each other's bodies while dancing. I never saw anything like that before. I then tried to go to Rainbow 4 but was blocked by a LB who grabbed my genitals and would not move. I quickly turned around (after duly recovering what belongs to me from the LB's hand) and left the plaza. Way too many LBs for me here, I understand why they are so numerous after hours at Nana Liquid disco, they just cross the street.
To avoid a repeat of the Obsession fiasco, I went back to my hotel to RTFF. Decided to move to Soi Cowboy and sample Toy and Afterskool just to see what happens there. Never made it. I walked into Suzy Wong first and within minutes a big and ugly mama san who told me I did not need to buy her a drink was sitting next to me, asking about my tastes, making recommendations and giving me the detailed history and age of every girl (where they came from, if they were good in bed or not and how she trained them to do BJs and how tight their black box is, it was hilarious). She recommended a tall. 5'8, 90 lb girl. 18 yo, started working a month ago, directly from her province. She told me she was going to organize a lesbian show on stage just so I could see this girl closer, and sure enough within 5 minutes that girl was on stage with her tongue inside another dancer's pussy. After the show she brought the girl over and the mamasan was placing my hands all over this girl's body. I felt bad for the girl but quickly got over my remorse, realizing that if it was not me it was going to be the monger sitting next to me. Paid the 600B bar fine, a 100B tip for the mama so that she would get her hands off from under my shorts, and off I went with "Not" (I think that is what she told me, she is #73). Girl speaks almost no English, has the body of a fashion model and a pretty face, is very quiet and not the active type, but not a starfish, she is inexperienced and shy. But what a treat, that is if you like the tight and gently moaning type. 2K ST, well worth it also. If you see her, treat her well, she is a sweetheart.
The plan for tomorrow is either Mango (is any particular girl a must try?) , where I have always had PSE or Eden where I have never been, not even sure where it is. I am also looking for a soapie, I have been to Annie's but it is not really a soapie, more of a massage place with a possible soapie depending on the girl. I think I have read names like Poseidon and Amsterdam, I used to go to J1 years ago, not sure what it is like today. If anyone can just give a quick recommendation I would really appreciate, so I don't have to RTFF through the numerous posts on this board.
I will keep experiencing until I eventually hook up with my Samui GF, and if I don't, oh well I will have to turn to a pretty face and body with a 3 letter name for consolation (Nok from Baccarat comes to mind).
[QUOTE=Tommylove; 1116601]I would like to rebut your statement that anyone who pays 3000 baht to a Thai working girl is a loser.
First, I have noticed that there is a correlation, in general, between the currency exchange rate and the price of pussy. In countries with a higher standard of living, prostitution is simply more expensive. The US and UK, with strong dollar and pound sterling, have the highest escort prices. Canada, Germany and Netherlands all have decently priced currency and pussy. And countries like Cuba and Thailand and Cambodia, with weak currency, generally provide the best bargains. In fact, an effective economic indicator to gauge a country's strength is what I call the "blowjob-index." The idea is that the value of a local currency generally maps to the cost of sex in that country. In other words, there's a correlation between the strength of the local economy and the price of a blowjob, just like the Big Mac Index. So in the UK, a blowjob might cost you $150-200, but in Amsterdam about $60-80. Then look at that country's currency. A hundred Pound Sterling would run about 175 bucks, a 100 Netherland Guilders (pre-Euro) would cost you $60. Voila! An index!
In fact, when Herodotus, the king of Lydia, invented the idea of a standardized coin, his metric for the value of his coins was based on the value of things like a day's wages as a laborer, a bag of rice, or a visit to a temple prostitute. Thus, the price of pussy in Thailand has more to do with the underlying economics of the country, than the generosity of patrons. Thus, prostitution is not only the oldest profession, but money was partially invented to serve that profession.
Thus, the price of pussy isn't really driven so much by the level of generosity of the sex tourist, so much as the fundamental economics of that country. If you want cheaper sex, go to Cambodia or Laos. Thailand and China have strong and emergent economies, so you can expect the price of pussy in Bangkok and Shanghai to keep rising over the next decade. The flip side of this is that the price of pussy in America will likely slowly decline over the next decade, along with its fortunes and in inverse correlation to the unemployment index. Even if you got every member of this board to agree to toe the line on costs, it would barely make a dent in the economic trend and the pussy index for Thailand.
Second, the typical head of household in the city of Isaan makes roughly $200 per year income. Thus, when the family sends a daughter to Bangkok to ply the oldest trade, she is in fact, sacrificing her life to save her family. Oddly, they'll send one son to the monastery to make up for the karmic implications of selling a daughter into prostitution. The typical Isaan girl sends home 20, 000+ ThB per month, or about 80% of her salary. So when I nail a Thai working gal, and she tells her the story about her family. It opens my heart and I'll tip her a few hundred baht, because it's good karma. In fact, when you use the term "peasant thai hoe", you are being both sexist and classist. It is better to see all human beings as fundamentally worthy of respect and dignity.
Third, I'll tell you a little story about why showing Thai girls respect can lead to a better outcome. I picked up an absolute 10 at a club a while back, and negotiated a long time. Her asking price was exorbitant. 6000 baht. And instead of bargaining her down to 3 or 4 like she was expecting. I said sure, why not. I was staying in a suite in the Shangri-la, and boy did her eyes pop out when she walked into the room. Then, instead of treating her like a working girl, I treated her with respect. And ordered a bubble bath, champagne with strawberries, and went down on her for two hours. (Many working gals, in order to withstand excessive sexplay, deaden their orgasmic response.) After she came. She admitted she orgasmed infrequently because her life was duty, she cried. And then suddenly, she bolted straight up and asked,"you know you're paying for this right?" After I assured her that I was paying her the small fortune in the morning, she did her absolute best to make me happy in return. Afterwards, I bowed with genuine respect and thanked her for a wonderful night of pleasure and we dozed off, holding each other in our arms. In the morning, she begged to stay and offered to fuck me. For free for the entire week that I was in town for a conference. All she asked was the right to go out and do a couple of short times in the evening, but promised she'd be back by midnight. The quality of the sex was so much better than paying for it, as she actually opened her heart and wanted me inside of her. She became a star in the bedroom, not a starfish.
Anyway, I had no intention of falling in love with her, so I felt bad toward the end of the week. Getting so much sex and not paying anything except providing room and breakfast, so I offered to take her shopping. She was careful not to ask for anything too expensive, to impress on me that she was not a gold digger. And of course, she wrote me quite a bit once I was home, hoping for a rematch.
So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one. [/QUOTE]Hey don't apologise. I agree with you. Pay what you want, and what you think they deserve. What some guys seem to forget is that these girls are human too and most are really nice.
I get pretty sick of the losers on the site that contantly argue about how little they should pay, how they can save 100baht on their taxi etc. Stay in your own trailer park back home and leave the fun to us.
These debates go nowhere. I've seen it a hundred times here. Boring!
JohnTheScot
Give me some tips on how to book flights on Air Asia from the states. I've tried with a CC many times but transaction never goes through. What am I doing wrong. Thanks
[QUOTE=MrBigy; 1116780]Yo man are you kidding? You felt bad for not paying to fuck? Even though you provided her room, board and YOUR first world companionship? I guess you undervalue YOUR time, that proves you are in fact LOSER. You value HER peasant 3rd world hoe time MORE than YOUR time. I bet 10 bucks YOU never finished high school. Make it 20. I mean no offense player but really anyone who has a real education and a thinker can read your prose and extract that you have a low-self esteem issue. Place more value on your time, are you ugly or something? There are billions are asians living hand-t0-mouth, I bet 10 bucks your 10 girl is one of them, and for her to be with YOU, a first world male, hey thats bigger than a lottery ticket.
I can't believe losers from the west pay 6000 bhat to bang peasant hoes, really. Hey mate I have a bridge for sale, would you be intersted? Only 6000 bhat.
" Afterwards, I bowed with genuine respect and thanked her for a wonderful night of pleasure and we dozed off, holding each other in our arms. In the morning, she begged to stay and offered to fuck me. For free for the entire week that I was in town for a conference. All she asked was the right to go out and do a couple of short times in the evening, but promised she'd be back by midnight. The quality of the sex was so much better than paying for it, as she actually opened her heart and wanted me inside of her. She became a star in the bedroom, not a starfish.
Anyway, I had no intention of falling in love with her, so I felt bad toward the end of the week. Getting so much sex and not paying anything except providing room and breakfast, so I offered to take her shopping. She was careful not to ask for anything too expensive, to impress on me that she was not a gold digger. And of course, she wrote me quite a bit once I was home, hoping for a rematch.
So does that make me a loser? My advice to you is that you take off the blinders and see life in a different way. It's better to be generous and respectful, than being the kind of guy who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Anyway, I apologize for writing such a long post, as I didn't have the time to write a shorter one. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]What a fucking idiot. How many times have we seen dichheads like this on here. Just trying to wind everyone up. Think he's on the ignore list from now on.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1116839]He might not have finished high school, but did you start high school?[/QUOTE]I have a funny feeling he is still in high school! It's the ranting of an immature adolecent who's still a virgin. Probably typing it from his mummy's basement while watching porn.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1117486]Looks like Penbelly's back. With a new name[/QUOTE]Haha that's exactly what I thought. Or his more stupid redneck brother. .
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1117791]Goyave's got a perfect handle on prostitution as a job in Thailand. Most do it because it is very easy work and many times what they could earn any other way, though the regular jobs available do pay enough to subsist.
Regarding your estimates of prostitute incomes, Goyave, I just had a conversation the other day with a very pretty (though a little too dark to be really 'Thai style') young freelancer in Isaan. With nearly all Thai customers paying roughly 500-800 for short times she brings in 20, 000 baht a month consistently, working around 3 hours per day, and working no more than 20 days per month at most. She says she has no interest in working more or going to some tourist spot, or to work at a Soapy or karaoke, as that's plenty of money for her and she dislikes having to deal with bosses / coworkers, even though she knows she could easily double her income. [/QUOTE]A good thai friend of mine (non P4P) told me recently that bar girls don't do it because they need the money and are very poor. They do it because they are lazy! They sleep all day and get up in time for work and hang out in a bar all night with their friends drinking. She said any girl can get a decent factory job and earn enough money. That's what she did before she got a job in a shop in Central shopping mall. That was her opinion anyway.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=FarmWorker;1118516]Give me some tips on how to book flights on Air Asia from the states. I've tried with a CC many times but transaction never goes through. What am I doing wrong. Thanks[/QUOTE]Air Asia? What's your itinerary?
Air Asia's Cheap and uncomfortable, there might be other much better Airlines.
Macau to BKK Air Asia claims at 90. 00 dollar fare!
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1118506]Hey don't apologise. I agree with you. Pay what you want, and what you think they deserve. What some guys seem to forget is that these girls are human too and most are really nice.
I get pretty sick of the losers on the site that contantly argue about how little they should pay, how they can save 100baht on their taxi etc. Stay in your own trailer park back home and leave the fun to us.
These debates go nowhere. I've seen it a hundred times here. Boring!
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]I too have been sick and tired of listening to the whining by the bargain hunters. The reality is that is takes so little for us to be reasonable with these girls, they will give you 10 fold for your generosity, and you get pleasure without being exploitive. Really, if you cannot afford a little generosity with these girls, stay home.
Hello, dear forumers,
I am not a total newbie in Bangkok go-gos and I would describe myself as an ordinary mainstream tourist visitor to places like Nana or Cowboy when visiting Bangkok. My favorite bars have been Rainbow 4 and Baccara and this hadn't changed for the past 4 times I visited BKK. I. E. I enjoy big places with lots and lots of girls among whom you'll always find a few super-hot ones or at least this was the case with me and my taste. But could anyone recommend what other bars in Nana or Cowboy are definitely worth to check out? My taste is for younger and slim girls and I admittedly tend to have a very strict evaluation when it comes to appearance (especially body proportions and slimness but face as well). I have been to a few other bars in Nana and Cowboy but none had what I could go for and usually were too small, empty and no pretty girls. Therefore I never really bothered to check everything because I assumed that most of them are like that. Also, price is not an issue. I am ready to pay the Rainbow 4 / Baccara price as long as I get a girl that I like. So what could be the best options for a change besides Rainbow and Baccara? Thanks to anyone who could drop a line or two.
[QUOTE=FarmWorker;1118516]Give me some tips on how to book flights on Air Asia from the states. I've tried with a CC many times but transaction never goes through. What am I doing wrong. Thanks[/QUOTE]Have you checked with your credit card company to see if they are blocking the transaction for your protection?
[QUOTE=FarmWorker;1118516]Give me some tips on how to book flights on Air Asia from the states. I've tried with a CC many times but transaction never goes through. What am I doing wrong. Thanks[/QUOTE]Depends on which card you are using. When I tried using my Mastercard debit card last week to book BKK Chiang Mai (1, 649 baht round trip) it would not go through. It was saying I needed some kind of security code. Then when I called HSBC to get one of those codes their computers were down. So I used my Visa debit card from my other bank instead and it went right through. A couple of days before that I used a Visa credit card for BKK Phuket (4, 226 baht round trip) and it worked as well.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1118575]Hello, dear forumers,
I am not a total newbie in Bangkok go-gos and I would describe myself as an ordinary mainstream tourist visitor to places like Nana or Cowboy when visiting Bangkok. My favorite bars have been Rainbow 4 and Baccara and this hadn't changed for the past 4 times I visited BKK. I. E. I enjoy big places with lots and lots of girls among whom you'll always find a few super-hot ones or at least this was the case with me and my taste. But could anyone recommend what other bars in Nana or Cowboy are definitely worth to check out? My taste is for younger and slim girls and I admittedly tend to have a very strict evaluation when it comes to appearance (especially body proportions and slimness but face as well). I have been to a few other bars in Nana and Cowboy but none had what I could go for and usually were too small, empty and no pretty girls. Therefore I never really bothered to check everything because I assumed that most of them are like that. Also, price is not an issue. I am ready to pay the Rainbow 4 / Baccara price as long as I get a girl that I like. So what could be the best options for a change besides Rainbow and Baccara? Thanks to anyone who could drop a line or two. [/QUOTE]Der Tourist, can't speak for NEP, but you may want to check Tilac and Shark on Soi Cowboy, both usually have a nice selection around 8PM. Good luck!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1118547]Air Asia? What's your itinerary?
Air Asia's Cheap and uncomfortable, there might be other much better Airlines. [/QUOTE]I have mostly flown Air Asia between CRK and KUL and my experience with them has actually been quite good. My recommendation would be to pay extra at the time of booking for exit row, meal, travel kit and luggage if necessary, it is really not much and makes a big difference. Most notably every time I have been alone in the exit row and was able to sleep on 3 seats. I have also had the issue of having my credit card company block the transaction, which was resolved either by using a different card or a phone call to the cc company.
[QUOTE]So what could be the best options for a change besides Rainbow and Baccara?[/QUOTE]I too am very particular about looks, and willing to shop for the hottest go-go girls. No disrespect to other gentlemen, who place more emphasis on other qualities. I just like young slim stunners.
Let's face it, these girls are in short supply. And the go-go scene is constantly changing. So there's really no substitute for keeping up here on a daily basis to get the latest information. And when you go out, it's important to make the rounds. A club that's dead this week might have half a dozen cuties next week.
That said, consider checking out Mandarin in the Nana Entertainment Plaza. Recently the selection there has been pretty good. Note Well: Mandarin is two bars in one. Part of the club is on the second floor. This is more like a conventional go-go. Mandarin also has a location on the third floor. There is a stairway just to the left of the second floor entrance. The third floor set up is a little darker and a little smaller. I rather like it.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1118575]Hello, dear forumers,
I am not a total newbie in Bangkok go-gos and I would describe myself as an ordinary mainstream tourist visitor to places like Nana or Cowboy when visiting Bangkok. My favorite bars have been Rainbow 4 and Baccara and this hadn't changed for the past 4 times I visited BKK. I. E. I enjoy big places with lots and lots of girls among whom you'll always find a few super-hot ones or at least this was the case with me and my taste. But could anyone recommend what other bars in Nana or Cowboy are definitely worth to check out? My taste is for younger and slim girls and I admittedly tend to have a very strict evaluation when it comes to appearance (especially body proportions and slimness but face as well). I have been to a few other bars in Nana and Cowboy but none had what I could go for and usually were too small, empty and no pretty girls. Therefore I never really bothered to check everything because I assumed that most of them are like that. Also, price is not an issue. I am ready to pay the Rainbow 4 / Baccara price as long as I get a girl that I like. So what could be the best options for a change besides Rainbow and Baccara? Thanks to anyone who could drop a line or two. [/QUOTE]I have a similar M. O. Just limited time there (usually just 3 days or so) and not enough time to experience every bar. So in Nana, I'll go in there with the plan of visiting at least one or 2 other bars before going into Rainbow 4. I wander around, pick a bar and step inside and try to gauge my gut feeling based on what I can see from the entrance, whether it's promising or not. If it seems promising (active, lots of girls, cute ones immediately visible) then I'll sit down and order a beer. If it doesn't, I just chalk it down as one off the list. Things do change, so what once was a bar that seemed worth a visit (Hollywood on top floor for example) can turn out to be lousy your next visit, or even closed. (and I heard that one did just close) Once when I did this, trying another bar Inormally wouldn't go to, I sat down in Playskool one night a few years back (or was it Rainbow 1?) and spotted the most beautiful girl I've seen in any of these bars ever. Totally the type you describe. Tall, delicately thin, Vogue-model face, just beyond what I ever would have hoped to spot in a gogo. So. I say definitely worth it to explore a bit more. (the rest of the lineup in her bar was totally standard, she was it.) So since then, I always try to spread the net wide rather than just target one bar that seems to have the best prospects, on paper at least.
Anyway, I hear that in Nana other Rainbow bars are also pretty good now. DC-10 got some good writeups. Angelwitch is another some people are loyal to. I always try to check out the Rainbows and Playskool when I'm at Nana, might go into a few others like Mandarin. I've [i]never[/i] seen anything interesting in the bars on the left side of the ground level. I presume you steer clear of the back on 2nd floor. ;) But things change, so best to at least take a look at as many places as you can. It doesn't take long, and there's no rule you have to stay in a place once you go inside. Most bars you'll probably end up skipping anyway.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1118623]Depends on which card you are using. When I tried using my Mastercard debit card last week to book BKK Chiang Mai (1, 649 baht round trip) it would not go through. It was saying I needed some kind of security code. Then when I called HSBC to get one of those codes their computers were down. So I used my Visa debit card from my other bank instead and it went right through. A couple of days before that I used a Visa credit card for BKK Phuket (4, 226 baht round trip) and it worked as well.[/QUOTE]Hi All,
All this because AirAsia and most of the airlines there use some sort of additional security for cc payments on the web. In addition to the 3 digit code that shows that you have the card at hand.
In the case of HSBC, it requires you in most countries to register a phone number prior to use your cc online. When you log in and attempt to pay, they will direct you to a webpage hosted by HSBC where you have to enter the security code (8 digits) received by sms on your phone. In 99% of the cases, even if you are roaming, the sms arrives on the spot. Happened to me once that it did not.
Other banks ask for your birth date, for instance.
I don't monger in TH, so try to compensate with help LOL.
Have fun
went to eden as reported in the massage parlor section. then to nep around 9:30pm, specifically to sample rainbow4 since i read good things about it here. definitely one of the nicer places at nep, with tons of girls on two stages, many of whom are attractive. tomorrow the plan includes mandarin and angelwitch, for comparison purposes. besides the many girls there is also a ton of mongers, so my advice is to get there early and decide fast because the pretty ones don't stay long. none of the girls i liked made eye contact with me and i did not care for the ones who did, so moved on to my old favorite soi cowboy.
first went to afterskool to see what was going on there, about a dozen girls, half sitting on top of mongers, apparently teaching the brothers how to grab both tits and ass and dfk at the same time, all while having a beer. i did not find the girls very pretty though. went across the street to toy, where i was one of 3 customers. the 2 girls on stage were butt ugly but one was from time to time getting her nipples sucked by by neighbor at the bar, who appeared to fancy her a lot. i did not see anyone giving bjs in either place, though i do not doubt it may occasionally happen. a kind of cute 18 yo was introduced to me by the mamasan, i bought her a drink, which lasted about 30 seconds and then she wanted another one. nice meeting you, bye.
on to baccara where my favorite was not in tonight, or had already left. same story only this time the lady's tequila shot lasted only 3 seconds, same thing for the second shot, smelled gold digger to me, i passed and moved on next door to shark. my cutie of 2 nights ago had already left, my fault for getting there after midnight, ended up at suzie wong.
mamasan (i think it is really a crossdressing papasan) recognized me from yesterday, came to sit with me, lamented the late hour and poor choice of girls, advised me to come at 8pm tomorrow, all the best girls are gone after midnight. since i was the only customer at 2am all 5 girls on stage competed for my attention, i bought 2 of them a drink, had a good time watching them compete, grab my breast, i kiss better than her and so on. in the end i left with the one he / she recommended (the other girl was completely drunk anyway). did not quite get her name, was supposed to be 18 but i don't think so. for one thing she has a kid and i later found out her pussy is about the width of lincoln tunnel and smells. i am not a big fan of smelly tunnels so we parted ways quickly. i am not happy mama / papasan did not advise me against this girl, in his hurry to send me away with a lady and get a tip. too bad, no more tips and no more drinks. by the way i saw him / her peeking at my dick in the bathroom, pervert! be careful guys.
Air Asia has a big problem with US issued credit cards when booking online. You will need to call them (I call them in Spore as their english is better than some other countries) and they will take your CC over the phone. But as of now, I have never been able to use my USA based cc on air Asia when booking online.
[QUOTE=FarmWorker;1118516]Give me some tips on how to book flights on Air Asia from the states. I've tried with a CC many times but transaction never goes through. What am I doing wrong. Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=1Ball;1118958]Air Asia has a big problem with US issued credit cards when booking online. You will need to call them (I call them in Spore as their english is better than some other countries) and they will take your CC over the phone. But as of now, I have never been able to use my USA based cc on air Asia when booking online.[/QUOTE]That may or may not be true, because I have been booking on Air Asia for about 4/5 years now. I used have this problem with Tiger Airways, but it is now ok, too. All my credit cards are US based. Try calling your credit card about this problem, also enroll in the visa / master charge verification systems. Hope this helps. But I hate the convenience fee that Air Asia charges for using credit cards.
I also haven't had problems booking with my Visa-logo debit card (Wachovia bank) number 4228 3574 4462 1817 expiration 01/14.
OK just kidding about that last part. ;)
Its 02/13. ;)
Seriously, I can use my card on AA without problems; seems like it depends on some factors we're not sure about.
Just going by what's up here, it differs for different card issuers.
p.s. Strange, it seems as if attempts to type a winking smiley face result in an extra period/full stop instead when a message gets posted to the forum. Whats up with that. I had to go back into Edit to fix them, and was able to fix it. Strange.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1119054]... p.s. Strange, it seems as if attempts to type a winking smiley face result in an extra period/full stop instead when a message gets posted to the forum. Whats up with that. I had to go back into Edit to fix them, and was able to fix it. Strange.[/QUOTE]
That's one of the numerous problems that we are facing here since the software upgrade: the current setting of the automatic-editing program could be improved a lot, as it seems.
I wrote something some time ago about the fact that (fortunately) the automatic editing is processed only on the initial submission, and not on edited versions: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1111665#post1111665[/url]
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1118012]I don't think you have anything to apologize for. As a gringo, I marvel at the international member of this forum and how well they use the Queen's English. I live in the American Southwest and can only speak a few words of Spanish and Tagalog much less write in those languages. You and the others probably use better English than most of us native speakers.
Slim[/QUOTE]Thank you for your kind words (and Daddy07 and GoodEnough, thank you for your clarification), even though I know pretty well that my command of English is far from being perfect.
[QUOTE=Rimbaud913;1118573]I too have been sick and tired of listening to the whining by the bargain hunters. The reality is that is takes so little for us to be reasonable with these girls, they will give you 10 fold for your generosity, and you get pleasure without being exploitive. Really, if you cannot afford a little generosity with these girls, stay home.[/QUOTE]Being reasonable with these girls is the key! But you are not reasonable if you are overly generous (to the point that the locals -- and that includes the girls themselves despite what they may say -- will consider you as stupid), even if you can afford paying much more than the locals.
Moreover, there is no merit in having a girl entertaining you if you overpay her: most tourists and foreigners can do that. But if you pay her a reasonable fee (the same amount or slightly more than what a local guy would pay) and make her willing to be in your company again, that means that she genuinely enjoys being with you and respects you.
Believe it or not, but overpaying does not provide you a better service and not even a better-looking provider in the great majority of cases. Have you noticed that people who overpay seldom post their girls' pictures? And when it is the case, I must say, with all due respect, that I usually fail to see how those girls are actually superior in looks in the nude than many girls that I have fucked for a lot less money.
By the way, for those who want to be overly generous, I can give you the contact information of several reliable charity organizations in Thailand that are more in need of your excess money and would use it more wisely than most of the girls available in the tourist-orientated P4P scene.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1118532]A good thai friend of mine (non P4P) told me recently that bar girls don't do it because they need the money and are very poor. They do it because they are lazy! They sleep all day and get up in time for work and hang out in a bar all night with their friends drinking. She said any girl can get a decent factory job and earn enough money. That's what she did before she got a job in a shop in Central shopping mall. That was her opinion anyway.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]
I would not say that all of them are "lazy". Most are just clever (and adventurous) enough to realize that they can earn much more money as prostitutes than working in a regular job, especially since they were not given a decent education (on purpose, because the local elite wants to keep the rural populations undereducated) when they were younger in the small villages from where they originate.
Fully agree. Maybe we could have a sub-forum dedicated to pricing and keep this one here for infos on where to find stunners.
[QUOTE=Rimbaud913;1118573]I too have been sick and tired of listening to the whining by the bargain hunters. The reality is that is takes so little for us to be reasonable with these girls, they will give you 10 fold for your generosity, and you get pleasure without being exploitive. Really, if you cannot afford a little generosity with these girls, stay home.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goyave;1119077]Have you noticed that people who overpay seldom post their girls' pictures? And when it is the case, I must say, with all due respect, that I usually fail to see how those girls are actually superior in looks in the nude than many girls that I have fucked for a lot less money.[/QUOTE]This is because most stunners do NOT want their picture taken. They don't need the advertising. I always ask if I can take pictures beforehand, but honestly I cannot remember the last time a p4p girl let me take pictures of her. Maybe the ugly ones do, but who wants to look at those?
Maybe someone can post some advice on how to convince these girls to pose for some pictures.
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1119077]Being reasonable with these girls is the key! But you are not reasonable if you are overly generous
Believe it or not, but overpaying does not provide you a better service and not even a better-looking provider in the great majority of cases. [/QUOTE]I agree. Being reasonable and smart is key when dealing with the Thais. Spoiling them only shows how weak you are and they will begin to manipulate the power in the relationship (even if only for one hour). Being assertive, smart, fair, and easy going works wonders. It's a tough balancing act that many tourists don't understand.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119101]Maybe someone can post some advice on how to convince these girls to pose for some pictures.[/QUOTE]Tell them how beautiful they look and that you want to have a photo of them so you can remember them by and that the picture is only for you. Photos from a phone camera are non-intrusive and very easy to grab quick casual shots. Show the picture afterward and tell them how beautiful they look. You can even bluetooth the photo to them right after. Have fun with the process and make it seem so casual and natural. If you act like its no big deal, they will act the same way.
If you can communicate everything in Thai, than this is very easy to do.
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1119077]Being reasonable with these girls is the key! But you are not reasonable if you are overly generous (to the point that the locals. And that includes the girls themselves despite what they may say. Will consider you as stupid) , even if you can afford paying much more than the locals.
Moreover, there is no merit in having a girl entertaining you if you overpay her: most tourists and foreigners can do that. But if you pay her a reasonable fee (the same amount or slightly more than what a local guy would pay) and make her willing to be in your company again, that means that she genuinely enjoys being with you and respects you.
Believe it or not, but overpaying does not provide you a better service and not even a better-looking provider in the great majority of cases. Have you noticed that people who overpay seldom post their girls' pictures? And when it is the case, I must say, with all due respect, that I usually fail to see how those girls are actually superior in looks in the nude than many girls that I have fucked for a lot less money.
By the way, for those who want to be overly generous, I can give you the contact information of several reliable charity organizations in Thailand that are more in need of your excess money and would use it more wisely than most of the girls available in the tourist-orientated P4P scene. [/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%. This is what anyone who spends more than a short holiday here learns.
[QUOTE=Goyave; 1119068]That's one of the numerous problems that we are facing here since the software upgrade: the current setting of the automatic-editing program could be improved a lot, as it seems.
I wrote something some time ago about the fact that (fortunately) the automatic editing is processed only on the initial submission, and not on edited versions:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1111665#post1111665[/url][/QUOTE]Be careful what you ask for. The guy who runs the forum is pretty particular about proper writing, typing, spelling, punctuation, etc. I once saw him totally delete almost every post by a guy who liked to imitate pirate slang in all his posts, and also to come down on Singlish or text message style with no capitals, or whatever. He might have set things up to eliminate the smileys, but overlooked doing the same in the Edit mode. Shhhhhh! . (that little dot was meant to be a winking smiley)
[QUOTE=Wendella;1119140]... He might have set things up to eliminate the smileys, but overlooked doing the same in the Edit mode. Shhhhhh! . (that little dot was meant to be a winking smiley)[/QUOTE]
Despite the (invisible) winking smiley in your post, I'm gonna reply seriously to it. Nope, had Jackson wanted to eliminate the smilies here, he would have configured all the threads like [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3175-Questions-and-Comments-about-the-recent-software-upgrade-to-vB-4.-0&p=1111534&viewfull=1#post1111534"]this one[/url] (for instance) where the smilies are set to OFF (have a look at the bottom of the webpage in the "Posting Limitations" section).
The current automatic-editing program does not allow you to write in Thai (for instance) directly on the initial submission (you have to edit your post for doing this) and makes some other unwanted "corrections" such as adding a superfluous space after a closing bracket immediately followed by a comma.
In Bangkok for 1 night, Tuesday night next week from around midnight-1am onwards. Any advice for good late night hunting, particularly around Sukumvit Road? Cheers
[QUOTE=Engjoe;1119348]In Bangkok for 1 night, Tuesday night next week from around midnight-1am onwards. Any advice for good late night hunting, particularly around Sukumvit Road? Cheers[/QUOTE]Soi Cowboy will still be going at 12. Later (and thinking of the word "hunt") you might look at the freelancers around the sidewalk bars at the west end of Cowboy, there by the Citi ATMs and the stairs to the metro. Lot of dogs, and then. WOW! (But check for ladyboys.)
Some MPs on 24 and 24/1 must stay open pretty late, but haven't personally researched.
[QUOTE=Engjoe;1119348]In Bangkok for 1 night, Tuesday night next week from around midnight-1am onwards. Any advice for good late night hunting, particularly around Sukumvit Road? Cheers[/QUOTE]My advice: you are staying 1 night only so no need to go out hunting, unless you really want a bar atmosphere, you would waste your time more than anything.
Call up Mango and order a girl to your Hotel (I am sure they would even go to the Airport to pick you up) for 3, 000 thb All inc. (you will pay the taxi)
Hell, for 1 night only I would even order 2 girls to meet and greet at the Airport. Book a limo (more Private) and then get blown on your way to the hotel.
For a one night only, I think you need strong memories.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119101]This is because most stunners do NOT want their picture taken...[/QUOTE]That's true to some extent, but not for all of them. And knowing what some people are paying their girls, it should not be much difficult to take at least one (fully-clothed if in the nude is not possible) picture of them (it could be requested prior making the deal, for instance).
But more likely, if we don't see many pictures of "real stunners" in the photo gallery, it's usually because most of the overpayers don't dare posting any picture of the girls they fuck. I probably can count the pictures of real stunners submitted by the overpayers in the photo gallery on the fingers of one hand! Admittedly, it's very difficult to believe those guys without any proof when they write about the (supposedly) good looks of their costly conquests.
You already know that some people are paying a very high price for unattractive or just ordinary looking providers. If it weren't the case, you would not see those girls on the P4P market charging exorbitant rates: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2408-Escort-Classified-Ads-Member-Discussions&p=1115862&viewfull=1#post1115862[/url]
Of course, in some cases, a guy would indeed pay a premium for a girl that I would also consider as a real stunner, but in the great majority of cases (almost in 100% of them, actually), the much higher price is, IMHO, absolutely not justified. The overpayers may say that for them, it is justified, but, hey, guys, show us the goods first, and we could judge it much better!
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119101]... I always ask if I can take pictures beforehand, but honestly I cannot remember the last time a p4p girl let me take pictures of her... Maybe someone can post some advice on how to convince these girls to pose for some pictures.[/QUOTE]In [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1094421&viewfull=1#post1094421"]another post[/url], you wrote: "I've videotaped girls having sex with me from Soi 6 as well as go-go bars. Sometimes if the girl is really really hot she will object, but then I'll just choose another girl. They know this."
If you've already been able to videotape go-go girls (they were not all ugly, I suppose?) having sex with you, it should not be very difficult to take their photo either, no? If the girl is really stunning, she might indeed refuse, but certain stunners will accept (maybe after offering a reasonable incentive, for instance), especially if it is a condition "sine qua non".
[QUOTE=Goyave;1119399]But more likely, if we don't see many pictures of "real stunners" in the photo gallery, it's usually because most of the overpayers don't dare posting any picture of the girls they fuck.[/QUOTE]Actually, it is very difficult nowadays to define what a "Stunner" really is. I have been here for a long time now and went through a few phases.
I initially preferred darker younger girls, then moved on to Dark more experienced girls, then moved to not too dark older (27+) girls and now my preference goes for White skinned young pretty girls.
I have realized that young girls now really have improved in the "Bed" department so a young one still gives you a nice time.
Believe me I am still bedding the darker girls, but my preference now goes towards the type you see in the Picture attached.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1119404]Actually, it is very difficult nowadays to define what a "Stunner" really is. I have been here for a long time now and went through a few phases.
I initially preferred darker younger girls, then moved on to Dark more experienced girls, then moved to not too dark older (27+) girls and now my preference goes for White skinned young pretty girls.
I have realized that young girls now really have improved in the "Bed" department so a young one still gives you a nice time.
Believe me I am still bedding the darker girls, but my preference now goes towards the type you see in the Picture attached. [/QUOTE]I agree with you that all mongers don't have the same taste in women (fortunately) and also that for each individual monger, his preferences might vary over time. But it is still interesting to see what are "real stunners" according to those who are saying that their girls are worth the high prices they pay for fucking them. Actually, while some mongers might disagree on whether or not a girl is a stunner, most of them would usually agree on who is not one.
By the way, my current preferences are apparently not much different from yours, even though I very seldom find a dark-skinned girl very attractive nowadays, but it's not a definitive turn-off, especially if she has a great body and a very cute face.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1119404]White skinned young pretty girls[/QUOTE]You mean there are types of girls other than this?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1119404]but my preference now goes towards the type you see in the Picture attached.[/QUOTE]Where are you finding these types, and if p4p how much?
First let me say that wow. The girl in NickFrenchy's recent post would be a stunner in my book, except that I have a preference for tall girls, but then she may be tall too, can't really tell. I would also be interested to know if this caliber is available from the usual places in the Sukhumvit area or if you need to know the city better to find them.
Anyway after Nataree yesterday I went to Mandarin in NEP, where the girls were relatively attractive but it was early (9PM) and I wanted to keep looking around, over to AngelWitch on the other side of the plaza, saw only dogs there.
On to Soi Cowboy and the usual, Baccara, Shark, tried Spice girls but the only girls there (wearing a red and white uniform) were not available for Take Out, only drinks. Went back to Suzie Wong after the mamasan grabbed me in the street, nothing he / she (name is Tai) would recommend there at midnight, there was a cute girl but she advised me that the girl was drunk and could not perform. Said to come back at 10PM tomorrow and she would have a pretty young tall girl waiting for me. Ended up at Raw Hide, I found the show there quite good with what looked like very young girls dancing naked on stage. One who was actually not young (34) came to sit by me several times and was very personable, even though I did not buy her any drinks (she did not ask) , mostly because I had no plan to go with her. She made me promise to go back the next day, which I did not do, as my plans changed. BTW, unlike some of the other places I was really not pushed for girls or drinks at Raw Hide.
Went to Bossy after the places on Soi Cowboy closed (tried Climax disco first but it was closed on Wed night). It is a large disco with electronic music and an elevated stage, reached by taxi for 50 Baht from Soi Cowboy. Quite a few girls at 4AM, all of them appeared available, some quite pretty. A Russian lady made contact, but I was in the mood for Thai and she told me she has been working at Bossy every day for 5 years, so obviously she was a pro. Eventually hooked up with Nuan at 6AM, she had been busy drinking with a group of Indian guys, who I later found out were trying to get a foursome out of her, she was not interested and had glanced at me many times. I had not invited her over, so eventually she had a waiter come to me and tell me that this girl would like to say Hi. Apparently she was too shy to approach me. Very nice girl with a great smile and a nice, though not skinny, body and a great personality. We left around 6:30AM, money was not discussed after she told me she only goes to Bossy once a month and had to get to work in a mall at 10AM. She left at 9:30AM after a very nice session where she would do whatever I asked her to, and seemed happy with the 2K Baht I slipped in her purse. I believe she was a real non-pro, just a regular girl making ends meet from time to time. She asked me not to give out her number.
Going to bed at 11AM my plan to go to Mango today was pretty much shot, I had my backup waiting for me at Suzie Wong, but then I got an email from Nok at Baccara in the morning saying how much she misses me and when am I coming to BKK. I am in BKK like twice a year, so how did she know, she said she didn't and that it was pure luck. I shelved the Suzy Wong plan for a GFE-like evening with Nok, dinner, drinks and then to the hotel around 11PM. Incidentally she told me a story of how a monger from the US gave her a gold ring, which she was going to be wearing for a month, out of respect, then if he does not come back she will just dispose of it. Anyone here gave a gold ring to Nok? She told me another story at dinner of how a (different) monger paid 15K Baht to "buy her" from the bar, I. E. So that she would not have to work there anymore, then sent her the same money she would normally make in a month, every month. However, he did not get back to BKK and started calling her 5 times per day. After a few months she terminated the arrangement because "she was bored and prefers to work". Hello, here is a monger that would benefit from reading the forum! On the other hand she has a good heart, found a camera in the taxi, gave it to the driver to return to the owner, which he said he would. She later explained she feels bad because she knows the driver will most likely not return the camera, however she would have felt worse keeping it.
Nok did everything right but after several weeks of intense mongering I just no longer had the energy to finish, tried, tried, could not do it. After many attempts at various positions and even a BBBJ that was not to be TC, Nok asked me for permission to go out at 2AM, saying she cannot sleep and she is bored, she is 22 and wants to go out, with some refreshing comment that I am probably too old to understand her. Well, I thought if she does not cooperate then anyway there is no chance in hell of any improvement on my side, so I told her to get out, as I have to leave in a couple hours anyway. Paid her 3K for TLN (even though she left at 2AM) + 1K which she says she has to pay to the bar for not coming to work, I don't know if it is true. Note to self, she is a nice girl but at this point, I am not sure I want to see her again because she destroyed whatever GFE I had been dreaming was there.
Mahal, this is your wake up call, back to earth and back to work, until the next opportunity to get to BKK.
[QUOTE=Mahal;1119522]after Nataree yesterday I went to Mandarin in NEP...On to Soi Cowboy...Baccara, Shark...Spice girls ...Suzie Wong...Raw Hide...Went to Bossy...tried Climax disco ...4AM...6AM...6:30AM...She left at 9:30AM...Going to bed at 11AM[/QUOTE]Sh * t, I need a nap just READING your report.
I mean, you didn't have time to fit patpong in there?
After such a do nothing first night, I can't imagine why you couldn't release the 2nd night
[QUOTE=Goyave;1119399]If you've already been able to videotape go-go girls (they were not all ugly, I suppose?) having sex with you, it should not be very difficult to take their photo either, no? If the girl is really stunning, she might indeed refuse, but certain stunners will accept (maybe after offering a reasonable incentive, for instance), especially if it is a condition "sine qua non".[/QUOTE]That used to be the case, but not recently. The last girl I videotaped was over 3 years ago and it was in Pattaya. Some stunners will let you take pictures of them fully clothed, but in BKK even that is rare nowadays (at least in my experience).
Angels B K K. I arrived in town quite late and decided to try a girl from Angels B K K. In the gallery the girl that turned me on most was called Nook and I tried to book her. She seemed quite small and young. Unfortunately she wasn't available. They told me they had another one that looked like her. This one turned up at my room a bit later. She was small and quite youngish. She was quite shy to start with. Her English was quite good and we had a chat which seemed to loosen her up. I told her what I expected and she agreed. We showered together and she took great care in washing my balls before she started giving me a blow job in the shower. I came in her mouth and looked forward to getting her back to the bed for a good session as soon as I could. It didn't happen. She just lost interest. Took a phone call from a friend and left with her money. I'd expected a bit more.
Freelancer Near Soi Cowboy Area – Now this one turned out to be far more interesting and at half the price of my first night. Her name was Nid and she looked about twenty four. Turned out she was thirty two and had a couple of kids. Not the type of girl I expected to end up with on this trip. She spoke very good English and went to great pains to tell me she had never worked in a bar. She worked in an electronics factory. I asked her if she had to work the next day and she said she didn't and that she would be happy to spend the night with me. We went back to the hotel and had a great time. She had a very slim body. Firm pert nipples and no signs that she'the had a baby. She stayed until noon the next day and gave me her mobile number and e-mail address.
[QUOTE=Mealticket;1119474]You mean there are types of girls other than this?[/QUOTE]Have you been to the Photo Gallery Lately? You'll see there are other types for sure
Took a few friends out to Cowboy on Wednesday night. One is quite young (24) so we were interested to see if he would get a better deal from the girls than the rest of us (who are in our 30s) have been getting lately. Sadly it was not the case. All the girls quoted him 2, 000 for ST. Baccara, Suzie Wong's, Dollhouse, Shark. All were good and full of nice lookers. Went into Deja Vu. Pretty shocking. All the girls who you can barfine are dogs. The coyote dancers, however, are quite cute. A few sat down next to us and wanted drinks. I warned my friends that these girls cannot be barfined; the girls were quite annoyed with me but what can they expect? It's a disaster of a bar. I cannot believe how ugly the barfineable girls are compared to the Coyote girls.
[QUOTE=Mealticket;1119569]Sh * t, I need a nap just READING your report...[/QUOTE]Sure, this would not happen while reading one of YOUR reports, since you've posted only one real field report so far, the rest of your "contributions" consisting in lame one-liners or sarcastic comments that very seldom exceed three short sentences. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Mahal;1119522]Went to Bossy after the places on Soi Cowboy closed (tried Climax disco first but it was closed on Wed night). It is a large disco with electronic music and an elevated stage, reached by taxi for 50 Baht from Soi Cowboy. Quite a few girls at 4AM, all of them appeared available, some quite pretty[/QUOTE]don't pay any taxi fare to Bossy. Apparently the clubs pays them. I been there many times and never ever paid any fare. Just a tip for future!
Also the gals in Bossy rock and the music too. I do go there for some Non Thai adventures whenever am in Bangkok!
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119622]Took a few friends out to Cowboy on Wednesday night. One is quite young (24) so we were interested to see if he would get a better deal from the girls than the rest of us (who are in our 30s) have been getting lately. Sadly it was not the case. All the girls quoted him 2, 000 for ST. Baccara, Suzie Wong's, Dollhouse, Shark.[/QUOTE]I was at all of these places less than a week ago and had no difficulty getting them to drop to 1, 500ST.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119622]...Went into Deja Vu. Pretty shocking. All the girls who you can barfine are dogs. The coyote dancers, however, are quite cute. A few sat down next to us and wanted drinks. I warned my friends that these girls cannot be barfined; the girls were quite annoyed with me but what can they expect? It's a disaster of a bar. I cannot believe how ugly the barfineable girls are compared to the Coyote girls.[/QUOTE]Avoid Deja Vu; not only are the bargirls dog ugly, but they have a reputation for running dodgy bills. The coyote girls are run by a different company and are there just to attract the punters.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1119622]Took a few friends out to Cowboy on Wednesday night. One is quite young (24) so we were interested to see if he would get a better deal from the girls than the rest of us (who are in our 30s) have been getting lately. Sadly it was not the case. All the girls quoted him 2, 000 for ST.[/QUOTE]BKK is all business. Young guys do better in Pattaya!
One of the best report in past few days.
Thanks
Where exactly is raw hide located?
[QUOTE=Mahal; 1119522]First let me say that wow. The girl in NickFrenchy's recent post would be a stunner in my book, except that I have a preference for tall girls, but then she may be tall too, can't really tell. I would also be interested to know if this caliber is available from the usual places in the Sukhumvit area or if you need to know the city better to find them.
Anyway after Nataree yesterday I went to Mandarin in NEP, where the girls were relatively attractive but it was early (9PM) and I wanted to keep looking around, over to AngelWitch on the other side of the plaza, saw only dogs there.
On to Soi Cowboy and the usual, Baccara, Shark, tried Spice girls but the only girls there (wearing a red and white uniform) were not available for Take Out, only drinks. Went back to Suzie Wong after the mamasan grabbed me in the street, nothing he / she (name is Tai) would recommend there at midnight, there was a cute girl but she advised me that the girl was drunk and could not perform. Said to come back at 10PM tomorrow and she would have a pretty young tall girl waiting for me. Ended up at Raw Hide, I found the show there quite good with what looked like very young girls dancing naked on stage. One who was actually not young (34) came to sit by me several times and was very personable, even though I did not buy her any drinks (she did not ask) , mostly because I had no plan to go with her. She made me promise to go back the next day, which I did not do, as my plans changed. BTW, unlike some of the other places I was really not pushed for girls or drinks at Raw Hide.
Went to Bossy after the places on Soi Cowboy closed (tried Climax disco first but it was closed on Wed night). It is a large disco with electronic music and an elevated stage, reached by taxi for 50 Baht from Soi Cowboy. Quite a few girls at 4AM, all of them appeared available, some quite pretty. A Russian lady made contact, but I was in the mood for Thai and she told me she has been working at Bossy every day for 5 years, so obviously she was a pro. Eventually hooked up with Nuan at 6AM, she had been busy drinking with a group of Indian guys, who I later found out were trying to get a foursome out of her, she was not interested and had glanced at me many times. I had not invited her over, so eventually she had a waiter come to me and tell me that this girl would like to say Hi. Apparently she was too shy to approach me. Very nice girl with a great smile and a nice, though not skinny, body and a great personality. We left around 6:30AM, money was not discussed after she told me she only goes to Bossy once a month and had to get to work in a mall at 10AM. She left at 9:30AM after a very nice session where she would do whatever I asked her to, and seemed happy with the 2K Baht I slipped in her purse. I believe she was a real non-pro, just a regular girl making ends meet from time to time. She asked me not to give out her number.
Going to bed at 11AM my plan to go to Mango today was pretty much shot, I had my backup waiting for me at Suzie Wong, but then I got an email from Nok at Baccara in the morning saying how much she misses me and when am I coming to BKK. I am in BKK like twice a year, so how did she know, she said she didn't and that it was pure luck. I shelved the Suzy Wong plan for a GFE-like evening with Nok, dinner, drinks and then to the hotel around 11PM. Incidentally she told me a story of how a monger from the US gave her a gold ring, which she was going to be wearing for a month, out of respect, then if he does not come back she will just dispose of it. Anyone here gave a gold ring to Nok? She told me another story at dinner of how a (different) monger paid 15K Baht to "buy her" from the bar, I. E. So that she would not have to work there anymore, then sent her the same money she would normally make in a month, every month. However, he did not get back to BKK and started calling her 5 times per day. After a few months she terminated the arrangement because "she was bored and prefers to work". Hello, here is a monger that would benefit from reading the forum! On the other hand she has a good heart, found a camera in the taxi, gave it to the driver to return to the owner, which he said he would. She later explained she feels bad because she knows the driver will most likely not return the camera, however she would have felt worse keeping it.
Nok did everything right but after several weeks of intense mongering I just no longer had the energy to finish, tried, tried, could not do it. After many attempts at various positions and even a BBBJ that was not to be TC, Nok asked me for permission to go out at 2AM, saying she cannot sleep and she is bored, she is 22 and wants to go out, with some refreshing comment that I am probably too old to understand her. Well, I thought if she does not cooperate then anyway there is no chance in hell of any improvement on my side, so I told her to get out, as I have to leave in a couple hours anyway. Paid her 3K for TLN (even though she left at 2AM) + 1K which she says she has to pay to the bar for not coming to work, I don't know if it is true. Note to self, she is a nice girl but at this point, I am not sure I want to see her again because she destroyed whatever GFE I had been dreaming was there.
Mahal, this is your wake up call, back to earth and back to work, until the next opportunity to get to BKK.[/QUOTE]
I will be staying close to Asok station and have a few quick questios.
1. Other than mango, which other MP has good looking providers one can take out for ST?
2. Which is best place close by for freelancers? Is there any chance during noon or one must wait till late evening for better selection?
3. Any suggestions for a go go bar that has super hard / nude shows with minimum hassles tospend huge amount on drinks etc.
3. Which MPs are open till 2 am?
Thanks for your time in advance
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1119726]BKK is all business. Young guys do better in Pattaya![/QUOTE]I thought most of the girls in Pattaya are on the ugly side?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1119883]I thought most of the girls in Pattaya are on the ugly side?[/QUOTE]Most of the girls on the planet are on the ugly side.
Hell, most people are ugly.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1119780]I will be staying close to Asok station and have a few quick questios.[/QUOTE]I started to answer you. But then realized I can't be bothered to answer when all the answers to your questions are but a search away. RTFF
I was in Pratunam yesterday morning, at the dentist for a cleaning.) opposite Panthip, fast and easy). As I walked out, I just about bumped into this very pretty black woman, with a shocking splash of blue in her hair. What a cool hairdo, I exclaimed, she smiled, and we talked. FOB from Nairobi 5 days ago, on holiday to hang with her sister who lives in BKK, and works in the medical field. 24 years old, tall, thin, smoking body, with that oh so typical 'bootylicious' ass African women are so famous for. Beautiful eyes, thin nose, and sparkling smile.
I tell her I am OTW to MBK, . What's that she asks. So we both hop into a taxi, and head over there, I need to buy a couple things. We are laughing, having a great time. We have some lunch on the 6th floor, and I ask if she likes to swim. I loooooooove to swim. Well, let's buy you a bikini, and go back to my hotel for a splash in the pool. Oooooo, that would be so fun, she squeals.
I was staying at the Shama. I was there in October, and was not happy at all, they offered me a free night. So I was there for 2 nights, and paid just under 3, 000 bt for 2 nights, an excellent bargain. (Their internet is still useless). But a beautiful property, on soi 2, just past the JW, with an entrance also on soi 4, spitting distance from NEP.
As we arrive in my room, housekeeping is there, so I just grab my suit, and tell her to grab hers, and we head into the bathroom together. We both strip off in front of each other as if we have been doing it for years. She has A cup breast, not 100% firm, but OMG, those nipples. Black as the ace of spades, big, and hard. I quickly grab one and put it in my mouth. It is big, wrinkly (can't think of another word) , and hard. She groans.
We head to the pool, and she brings her camera. We splash about for an hour, with a fair amount of groping and grinding, and after we get out, she asks me to snap a few pics of her. A few minutes later, the bikini is off. (The pool, obviously, is deserted). She is laughing, posing, blowing kisses at the camera. Ok, enough of that, I've got to have this girl.
What follows are a couple of hours of hot steamy sex. I haven't had a black woman in years, her lips are just fantastic, her pussy has a hint of stubble on it, and no, it still isn't pink on the inside. We have a short nap, and she then asks me what my plans are for the evening. I ponder the situation. Do I say goodbye, and go out hunting for a girl who is only interested in my pocket, and who will bolt once we are done, or do I spend the evening with this little cutie, who is calling me honey, and rubbing my shoulders.
I give her a couple hundred Bt for a taxi back to her place, so she can grab some clothes, and come back. 2 hours later, she knocks on the door, and is standing there, statuesque in her high heels, and bright blue dress to match the shock of hair on her forehead.
She is fascinated by the washing machine in the kitchen. What is it for she asks? I look at her dubiously, and she just doesn't know what to make of it. Talk about FOB from a remote village outside of Nairobi.
We head to dinner and then to country road on soi cowboy, where the band is in great form. 'Sweet child of mine', 'born to be wild', 'take it easy', and the likes. We are at a table with a couple of farangs, one is a huge bear of a man, with a tiny little Thai girl, who is like the energizer bunny. The guy calls her a '440 volt girl in a 220 volt world'. Cute. The girls dance together, and when my girl does the booty shake, a roar of approval goes up behind her.
Back to the room, a quick sexy soapy shower, and we hit the sack. She says. I'll take care of this baby, just lie back and enjoy. And she proceed to fuck me in a way I haven't been fucked in a long time. She is an agonizingly delicious tease, making me completely crazy, and I am just looking at her with amazement, as she grins, laughs, and says. You enjoying me babe?
Finally at 2. 30 am, we go to sleep, cuddling. The 6. 00 am wake up call to get me up and OTW to the airport comes much too quickly. I slip out of bed, shower, and get ready. She wakes up, and I go back in to kiss her goodbye. 'Don't forget me' she says, call me when you back in BKK. She asks me for 100 Bt so she can take a taxi home.
I close the door behind me, check out, tell the front desk not go clean the room yet, as someone is sleeping, and get in the cab, exhausted, with a smile on my face.
As a side note, I have never been stared at so much in all my days in BKK. I have walked down the street with WGs OTW to my hotel, I have walked down the street with an Asian GF many times, but I have never walked down the street or sat in a bar with a black woman. Stares from farangs, stares from WGs, stares from just about everybody. She even said. Why are so many people staring at us. I just laughed and said. Because you are so beautiful. Didn't know what else to say.
BKK never disappoints.
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora; 1119646]don't pay any taxi fare to Bossy. Apparently the clubs pays them. I been there many times and never ever paid any fare. Just a tip for future!
Also the gals in Bossy rock and the music too. I do go there for some Non Thai adventures whenever am in Bangkok! [/QUOTE]Where the eff is Bossy? I can't find the location. Can I walk to Bossy from Cowboy? Any entrance fee? Any other fees?
Thanks
Your karma. Right place at the right time with the right stuff.
And to think you gave her all that lovin with only 1Ball.
Congratulations!
I went by CM2, in the basement of the Novotel at Siam Square, a couple of times last night (Friday night). At 10:00 PM it was completely dead. I came back at 11:30 PM and it was packed. Quite a change. There were two or three absolute stunners in the place, but they came with an attitude. I think there were some nonpros in the room, including the one bonafide "10", but most of the women were available. There was a very large contingent from the Former Soviet Union. The all girl band there really sucked. Asking prices were high. The attractive ones started at 6, 000 baht. I ended up taking home a Thai girl who turned out to be incredibly affectionate and a nymphomaniac. I had to run her out of the apartment this afternoon at 3:00 PM. Anyway, I liked the place and I shall return.
1Ball, that was an awesome report. I'm headed back to BKK in early April. I hope we can bump into each other again. Better still, I hope I bump into her. Damn!
[QUOTE=Pita123;1119927]I started to answer you. But then realized I can't be bothered to answer when all the answers to your questions are but a search away. RTFF[/QUOTE]Yes I found some answers on very next page. By the time you would read my reply I would have started the journey and already reached third country in 24 hours and have 7 more to do in next 20 days. Won't have wifi / phone everywhere and there is next to no time for surfing anyways. Hence the need for quick answers if possible.
1Ball.
Well done. I envy you. Stuck here in LA and who knows when the next trip to LOS is going to be.
D
[QUOTE=Mahal;1119522]Eventually hooked up with Nuan at 6AM, she had been busy drinking with a group of Indian guys, who I later found out were trying to get a foursome out of her.[/QUOTE]Thats where the cheap reputation comes from. I guess everybody wants to save a few bucks but this takes the cake.
[QUOTE=1Ball; 1119952]As a side note, I have never been stared at so much in all my days in BKK. I have walked down the street with WGs OTW to my hotel, I have walked down the street with an Asian GF many times, but I have never walked down the street or sat in a bar with a black woman. Stares from farangs, stares from WGs, stares from just about everybody. She even said. Why are so many people staring at us. I just laughed and said. Because you are so beautiful. Didn't know what else to say.
BKK never disappoints. [/QUOTE]Hi 1Ball,
I think I know exactly how you felt.
Late last year I spent a day and a night with a young 'civilian' tourist from Rwanda.
I am a 'very white' and 'rather old' Farrang and she was 25 year old, black and beautiful.
The looks I got in the bars or when walking around Pattaya with her were incredible!
Thailand is always good but sometimes, just occasionally it's effin MARVELOUS!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1120018]6,000 baht.[/QUOTE]Well, I hope you tried to get her down to 5, 950 anyway.
This is SO MUCH money for any thai female that would (even) go w / a farang it's humorous.
(the equivalent of the MONTHLY SALARY of a Tesco Lotus cashier; I know, I was talking to a hot one on the lot last night; and I mean hot)
The only thing that keeps me going is that I get the hottest hardbody chicks on the soi for 80% less.
Anyone know of a good soapy map? The usual link does not seem to work anymore.
Browser problem==figured it out.
[QUOTE=Levitraboner;1120252]Anyone know of a good soapy map? The usual link does not seem to work anymore.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mealticket; 1120194]Well, I hope you tried to get her down to 5, 950 anyway.
This is SO MUCH money for any thai female that would (even) go w / a farang it's humorous.
(the equivalent of the MONTHLY SALARY of a Tesco Lotus cashier; I know, I was talking to a hot one on the lot last night; and I mean hot)
The only thing that keeps me going is that I get the hottest hardbody chicks on the soi for 80% less. [/QUOTE]Of the several I asked, asking prices were from 6, 000 to 10, 000. I'm sure they would have gone for less, and I wasn't interviewing the dogs. I don't know whether the women pay the same cover as the men, but if they do, they have a 650 Baht sunk cost to enter the bar. There were quite a few well-dressed middle-eastern men in the place, who I suspect might pay more than average.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1120263]6, 000 to 10, 000[/QUOTE]Keep's getting better and better (for me I mean)
Do I hear 15,000?
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1120018]I went by CM2 .... The attractive ones started at 6, 000 baht. I ended up taking home a Thai girl who turned out to be incredibly affectionate and a nymphomaniac. I had to run her out of the apartment this afternoon at 3:00 PM. Anyway, I liked the place and I shall return.[/QUOTE]Tiny.
You left out an important piece of info. What did the Thai lady want and what did you donate to her?
Thanks, Pipe
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1120276]Tiny.
You left out an important piece of info. What did the Thai lady want and what did you donate to her?
Thanks, Pipe[/QUOTE]She asked for 6,000 for LT, agreed to 4, 000, and then wheedled another 2,000 out of me the next day, after I left 4,000 in her purse. So she ended up with 6,000.
I know that's potentially higher than the market rate, that I'm running up the price for everyone else, and that I'm contributing to the impression that all white skinned foreigners are suckers. I don't care.
I'll be staying at the Conrad with family. Is there anywhere nearby that I can sneak out for a couple of hours? I've read the forum but I don't know any of the areas so it doesn't mean too much to me. This will be my first time in Bangkok and I speak zero Thai. I'm hoping to find someone who can answer my questions either here or via PM.
Thanks.
I can reciprocate with info on Hong Kong, Macau or the Philippines
The Conrad is in a great location, close to Nana and to Annies' Soapy Massage. In fact, I think it's about a 10-15 minute walk. So getting a good soapy at Annie's should definitely be achievable. Make sure to spend some time reading the Annie's forum here in ISG. Tell your family that you are going shopping for some souvenirs while they are relaxing at the pool or getting their afternoon nap.
[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1120301]I'll be staying at the Conrad with family. Is there anywhere nearby that I can sneak out for a couple of hours? I've read the forum but I don't know any of the areas so it doesn't mean too much to me. This will be my first time in Bangkok and I speak zero Thai. I'm hoping to find someone who can answer my questions either here or via PM.
Thanks.
I can reciprocate with info on Hong Kong, Macau or the Philippines[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sugoi;1120301]Is there anywhere nearby?[/QUOTE]Do no, repeat, do not go to annie's. The women there were born when nixon was president (maybe some JFK / Johnson)
Go here; akane fashion massage; make sure to ASK for what you want.
Annie's is good for a short time but you will come back smelling of fresh soap. You might just want to try a BJ bar. You can go to Star of Light, which is not that hard to find, and you could get a BJ or some full service in the bathroom. Minus the shower. Just a thought.
Here are some directions:
[url]http://www.bangkokbarfine.com/Star_of_Light.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Harry Dude;1120308]Make sure to spend some time reading the Annie's forum here in ISG. Tell your family that you are going shopping for some souvenirs while they are relaxing at the pool or getting their afternoon nap.[/QUOTE]If you tell then you are going shopping, make sure you come back with more than a smile on your face.
:D
[QUOTE=1Ball; 1119952]I was in Pratunam yesterday morning,
Hunting for a girl who is only interested in my pocket, and who will bolt once we are done, or do I spend the
BKK never disappoints. [/QUOTE]I wish I knew how to post this as a report of distinction. Great report 1Ball!
TTG
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1120286]and that I'm contributing to the impression that all white skinned foreigners are suckers. I don't care.[/QUOTE]That impression was embedded long long ago.
[QUOTE=1Ball;1119952]BKK never disappoints.[/QUOTE]Haha, if you have the ball (s) to grab what it offers! Lovely story. The only curious note is that she doesn't know washing machines at least from TV. The Kenyan village girls I knew spoke very limited English. Anyway, I'm sure you made her Asian holiday.
To add an anecdote. For the first time a girl in Pattaya soi 6 gave me a bona fide personal business card. Funny thing is her performance was pretty much non-pro. I think she must have some previous retail experience which she's applying to her new career.
A girl with her own business cards on Soi 6 in Pattaya. Now that is a girl using her head. Or should I say your head.
This is what thinking out of the box means. She should start a business for the rest of the girls. I'll bet some of the logos would be interesting.
[QUOTE=1Ball;1119952]I was in Pratunam yesterday morning, at the dentist for a cleaning.)[/QUOTE]And you didn't hit my cell? :O
Sweet ride!
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1120377]A girl with her own business cards on Soi 6 in Pattaya. Now that is a girl using her head. Or should I say your head.
This is what thinking out of the box means. She should start a business for the rest of the girls. I'll bet some of the logos would be interesting. [/QUOTE]If she's working in a bar management will disapprove as they're likely to lose out on the BFs. I know one girl who was almost fired for giving me her number in the club.
A couple more days in Bangkok for me lately.
I pulled a girl out of Bangkok Beat. A lovely girl called Bee. We had some whiskey there, and chatted, and then went back to her place for more whiskey, chatting, and some food that she prepared. (nothing fancy, but we needed it)
Strolled into my hotel around 4:00amish or so. And then got down to it. It was more of a quicky, and then we both passed right out.
However, the morning was a great long session. BBJ, mish, doggy, and I finished up cumming all over her chest and stomach.
It was 2500 baht for the service. Which included about 3/4 a bottle of whiskey when it was all said and done! Ha!
Anyway. Good times. I would see her again.
Face: 8/10.
Body: 7/10.
Attitude: 10/10.
Service: 8/10
Alright. I don't normally go to NANA for any reason, but I was going to kill some time until Bangkok Beat got going, so I went into Angels for the show.
I got there about 10 minutes before the show started at 11pm, and I was out of there in about 6 minutes. A ridiculously hot girl was there, and she did it right. Lots of eye contact, dancing to me, and etc. I couldn't believe my luck. She knew how to play the game! So, I wasted no time and invited her over for a drink. We arranged to leave before her drink arrived. I paid the 600 barfine.
The only problem is that she would only short time, and she wanted a lot. I didn't really care so I paid her 2000 baht after getting stonewalled on the idea of negotiating. The fee still seems fucking high to me, but whatever it was my last night.
The service was pretty rushed, but good. BBJ, making out in the taxi, she had a fantastic body. Except her implants were pretty hard. (that doesn't bother me, but it might bother some)
Anyway, we flowed through a few positions, and I flipped her over to finish up doggy. I was getting close, and decided I wanted a bit more bang for my buck. So I slipped the condom off, flipped her back over, and came all over her face / chest.
She scolded me for hitting her hair, but whatever.
Attitude: 7. 5/10.
Face: 8/10.
Body: 9/10.
Service: 6/10 (too rushed for my tastes)
I just wanted to add that I also had two girls out of Livingstone Lodge's sports bar whilst there. Both fantastic service, but I feel odd about putting up the details.
One was a regular of mine (or I am a regular of hers, I guess) for good reason, and the other one is a lovely girl who gave some stellar service.
I'll be at Livingstone's soon, and wondered about seeing the same girls every day (who you may have been with) whether you wanted to take them or not. It looks like a small world there in a way. It was bad enough when I was at Citadines on 23 and would see the massage girls I had been with sitting out there every time I came and went from the hotel. But it is great to know you liked the service; that's all I need to know.
[QUOTE=Red Square; 1120441]I just wanted to add that I also had two girls out of Livingstone Lodge's sports bar whilst there. Both fantastic service, but I feel odd about putting up the details.
One was a regular of mine (or I am a regular of hers, I guess) for good reason, and the other one is a lovely girl who gave some stellar service. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Red Square; 1120441]I just wanted to add that I also had two girls out of Livingstone Lodge's sports bar whilst there. Both fantastic service, but I feel odd about putting up the details.
One was a regular of mine (or I am a regular of hers, I guess) for good reason, and the other one is a lovely girl who gave some stellar service. [/QUOTE]Funny enough we all seem to be quite shy about adventures at LL Sports bar: no names. No photos. Few reports! .
[QUOTE=Enzian;1120487]I'll be at Livingstone's soon, and wondered about seeing the same girls every day (who you may have been with) whether you wanted to take them or not. It looks like a small world there in a way. It was bad enough when I was at Citadines on 23 and would see the massage girls I had been with sitting out there every time I came and went from the hotel. But it is great to know you liked the service; that's all I need to know.[/QUOTE]You are right on the small world syndrome. Especially if you are also a LL guest.
Have to say that one tends to repeat, if he was happy, during his stay if he plans to pick up inhouse.
Something else is if one goes offsite for his mongering activities, regardless whether he does a take away to bring to LL or not.
Still I have to say that there is no pressure at all from the girls at the Sports bar about being taken repeatedly.
Obviusly they are happy if you do so ($$$$!) but it is not a problem at all if you butterfly to another.
I once came back to LL one week.
Aftger a short stay when I had a girl one night.
Was very late, not far from bar closure time and was my (easy) idea to do a repeat.
So I did and while having a refreshening drink I told so to the girl.
It came unexpectedly to her, although she was the one coming first to greet me at the table when I arrived.
There is no feeling of "ownership" from the girls about a customer as it happens in some places.
Definetely they stick to some policy to make the customer feeling at easy and relaxed.
[QUOTE=Red Square; 1120440]Alright. I don't normally go to NANA for any reason, but I was going to kill some time until Bangkok Beat got going, so I went into Angels for the show.
I got there about 10 minutes before the show started at 11pm, and I was out of there in about 6 minutes. A ridiculously hot girl was there, and she did it right. Lots of eye contact, dancing to me, and etc. I couldn't believe my luck. She knew how to play the game! So, I wasted no time and invited her over for a drink. We arranged to leave before her drink arrived. I paid the 600 barfine.
The only problem is that she would only short time, and she wanted a lot. I didn't really care so I paid her 2000 baht after getting stonewalled on the idea of negotiating. The fee still seems fucking high to me, but whatever it was my last night.
The service was pretty rushed, but good. BBJ, making out in the taxi, she had a fantastic body. Except her implants were pretty hard. (that doesn't bother me, but it might bother some)
Anyway, we flowed through a few positions, and I flipped her over to finish up doggy. I was getting close, and decided I wanted a bit more bang for my buck. So I slipped the condom off, flipped her back over, and came all over her face / chest. [/QUOTE]I suspect I know which girl this is. And yes she's definitely a waste no time pro, but she's quite good at what she does.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1120496]Funny enough we all seem to be quite shy about adventures at LL Sports bar: no names. No photos. Few reports![/QUOTE]I haven't seen many reports either, but I do know that not all experiences there are so great. I live in town but booked a room at Livingstones for my birthday for the express purpose of taking one of the girls I had met earlier. She had always been very nice, chatty, interested, etc. But when she got up to the room she went cold fish. We messed around for a while but I just didn't feel like putting myself through the torture. It was like necrophiliac cold.
Anyway, I got her dressed and went back downstairs.
The good side is that the mamasan saw this weird turnaround and inquired. I reluctantly told her (not wanting to get the girl in trouble or cause trouble for myself because I like the bar) and she offered to get me another girl on the same barfine. I didn't take her up on it because I thought my girl would seriously lose face, but I wasn't happy that night.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1120350]For the first time a girl in Pattaya soi 6 gave me a bona fide personal business card. Funny thing is her performance was pretty much non-pro. I think she must have some previous retail experience which she's applying to her new career.[/QUOTE]I saw this once about a year ago on soi 6 also.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1120377]A girl with her own business cards on Soi 6 in Pattaya. Now that is a girl using her head. Or should I say your head. [/QUOTE]Not called Tan, was she? Or perhaps there is more than one doing it.
I think it is a great idea, especially for FLers. I often come back from an evening with a handful of phone numbers, but I can rarely remember the face.
For free lancers a business card makes a lot of sence. Sure helps you remember who they are and number gives you ability to do it all again.
I have stayed at LL most times when in BKK. I have found the girls like it if you repeat but don't get pissed, at least outwardly, if you choose someone else. Just treat them to a drink next time you see them and be friendly. They will catch on quickly if you want to butterfly. I would say that 95 % of my experiences have been very successful. The better you treat them the better it gets. I will return to LL when I come back to BKK and will definately go to the sportsman bar to sample the offerings.
[QUOTE=TheCowboyKid;1120667]I haven't seen many reports either, but I do know that not all experiences there are so great. I live in town but booked a room at Livingstones for my birthday for the express purpose of taking one of the girls I had met earlier. She had always been very nice, chatty, interested, etc. But when she got up to the room she went cold fish. We messed around for a while but I just didn't feel like putting myself through the torture. It was like necrophiliac cold.[/QUOTE]Ever think it might be your breath? JackCoke and cigarettes make for that lovely dragon smell, "eau d'men."
Thai girls seem to think that particular fragrance comes from their friendly neighborhood Golden that just ate a dead Georgia squirrel!
BTW, thanks for the directions to SOL. You be the guerrilla, Man!
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1120418]If she's working in a bar management will disapprove as they're likely to lose out on the BFs. I know one girl who was almost fired for giving me her number in the club.[/QUOTE]I did see the bartender cast an ugly eye in our direction, and I have had girls tell me that they can't give me their number while mamasan is watching. I guessed she hasn't had that explained to her yet.
The Filipina girls in Singapore were always giving out numbers, and always pulling you back to the bar. It was like pulling teeth to meet one outside. Quite a contrast with the Thai setup.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1120823]The Filipina girls in Singapore were always giving out numbers, and always pulling you back to the bar. It was like pulling teeth to meet one outside. Quite a contrast with the Thai setup.[/QUOTE]I understand that there are many beautiful Filipina girls ready for fun and play in Singapore. How does it compare to Bangkok or Hong Kong? Better, worse, or incomparable?
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer;1120898]I understand that there are many beautiful Filipina girls ready for fun and play in Singapore. How does it compare to Bangkok or Hong Kong? Better, worse, or incomparable?[/QUOTE]Completely different scene than Bangkok. I don't know Hong Kong. There are not straightforward bars like Angeles or Bangkok. Orchard Towers has freelancers. There are bars with girls that sell drinks and flirt (though there is an ongoing crackdown) , they can be great fun (or not) but get very expensive quickly. There are tons of maids, nurses, and other overseas workers, if you like to hunt.
Just finished a tour. I think Nataree has some hot girls outside the front, but the fishbowl girls were definitely shagged out. Mango was good, met Nok, legs high in the air, full penetration into her butt and good kissing action, which is good because she was tight and I am on the large size, and many girls whine when they go to suck me. Amazing that these girls have had so much cock in their pussy that they still act shy, but not at Mango.
Mango has hugh mirrors so you can see her all stretched out and yourself rudely pumping her in a most unladylike way. I think Soi 24-28 is the way to go, Nana is way too touristy and trying to sell too much shit. Soi 24-28 has decent restaurants and is more upmarket, and between Mango and Snowhite you can get a quality unrushed shag for 2500 baht, anal included and shoot all over her face / tits if you like. No shame with these girls, they suck your balls and happly bend over the bed and prop up their ass on pillows for hard core anal penetration, no fuss, they know what you want.
I'm a bit sick of Thailand. It has become very mercantile and cold, relentless rip-offs and the language and cultural barriers are high. I've heard that Spain has some good action outside of Madrid and you can actually talk to the girls and feel at least some connection rather than a living masturbation tube some Thai women have become. Mongering should be about nice food, pleasant girls and steamy sex, no just sordid rooms and indifferent, jaded girls fucked by hundreds of tourists with loose pussies.
Any suggestions? Cuba?
I'm going to be in BKK next week for a couple of days, and I want to hit a massage joint where I'm guaranteed to get some anal action. Is Mango the best bet? I'll be staying in Majestic Suites near Nana. All you experienced Bangkok vets got any advice for a relative newb? I've been to Bangkok before but I foolishly took the advice of a tout, and the service was not the best. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus; 1121020]I'm a bit sick of Thailand. It has become very mercantile and cold, relentless rip-offs and the language and cultural barriers are high. I've heard that Spain has some good action outside of Madrid and you can actually talk to the girls and feel at least some connection rather than a living masturbation tube some Thai women have become. Mongering should be about nice food, pleasant girls and steamy sex, no just sordid rooms and indifferent, jaded girls fucked by hundreds of tourists with loose pussies.
Any suggestions? Cuba? [/QUOTE]Indeed. I agree that Thailand has become a bit of a sucker's choice when it comes to just mongering. Still an interesting country tho. Nice beaches, interesting temples to visit, good spas and the local culture make it definitely worth a visit if one hasn't ever been there before.
On the down side, rip-offs are somewhat of a cultural thing and pussy is by far overpriced. And you know. 2500 baht equals to about 60 euro nowadays! That is, in my opinion, a ridiculous amount of money to pay to a [email]sk@nk[/email] For a ST fuck in a developing country, even if it includes anal and COF. Unless of course, the service provider happens to be REALLY outstanding in looks and service.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1121081]Indeed. I agree that Thailand has become a bit of a sucker's choice when it comes to just mongering...[/QUOTE]Not Thailand as a whole, but tourist-oriented areas probably, and especially in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1120286]She asked for 6,000 for LT, agreed to 4, 000, and then wheedled another 2,000 out of me the next day, after I left 4,000 in her purse. So she ended up with 6,000...[/QUOTE]I guess I'm losing my time asking this, but is there any chance you post her photo? I'd like to see how a Thai girl, who believes that she deserves a construction worker or a 7-Eleven cashier's monthly salary for one night with her, looks like. Don't tell me that for this price, you have not kept any graphic "souvenir" of her?
[QUOTE=Goyave;1121277]I guess I'm losing my time asking this, but is there any chance you post her photo? I'd like to see how a Thai girl, who believes that she deserves a construction worker or a 7-Eleven cashier's monthly salary for one night with her, looks like. Don't tell me that for this price, you have not kept any graphic "souvenir" of her?[/QUOTE]You're right, you're wasting your time. I haven't taken a photo of a hooker in over 5 years. Actually, after a little over a day together, she also thought she deserved a computer and a trip to Hong Kong. From what I've read, what I originally agreed to pay wasn't out of the ordinary for CM2.
If you're going to pay 6, 000 baht for one night, why not just stay in your home country?
This Bangkok forum has gotten awful.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1121297]This Bangkok forum has gotten awful.[/QUOTE]Awful? To the contrary, I find it rather amusing!
This is the most entertaining forum of the whole bunch, a good laughter is always guaranteed.
You win. In the past I've reported on some places where no one was going to get out for less than $100 for a decent-looking piece of ass, mostly in Latin America, but also a couple in southeast Asia. I've been ridiculed up one side and down the other by those who think incremental expense of $5 per hour or $50 for a poke is insane. From now on all my reports will be confined to places where I got laid for less than $20. Or I will lie. My next report will be about the "10" I pulled from Brix in Singapore last night for 50 SGD.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1121415]... From now on all my reports will be confined to places where I got laid for less than $20. Or I will lie. My next report will be about the "10" I pulled from Brix in Singapore last night for 50 SGD.[/QUOTE]
No need to do that. It's still interesting to know what people are actually paying here, but it's useless when we can not compare things accurately, and that's why it is much better when at least one picture of the provider is posted and when we are told which services were rendered. Without those information, it's hard to tell if the price paid was justified or not.
I also believe that we should all know some [url="http://www.bangkokpost.com/productinfo/common/img/img_eco2/pdf/EC301209E08.pdf"]local economic indicators[/url] as it helps keeping things into perspective.
Most people who are mentioning them and the average going rates here don't want to ridicule the other members, but just want to help them to use their money more wisely. Of course, you are free to use it like you want, but is not it better when you can have more fun for your bucks and are not considered as a fool by the locals and (very likely) by your provider herself (even if you've claimed previously that you don't care)?
She might have deserved this amount of money, but according to my own experience, I doubt that it was the case. Now, have you posted a photo of her and described her performance with enough details, I might have changed my mind (she really must be an exceptionally beautiful woman providing a stellar performance for this price), but, as explained earlier, without those data, many people are entitled to believe that you have seriously overpaid!
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1121297]If you're going to pay 6, 000 baht for one night, why not just stay in your home country?
This Bangkok forum has gotten awful. [/QUOTE]Its more that Bangkok has gotten awful, not the forum. Some here have said that other parts of Thailand are better, but I'd have to demure a bit. Prices for 'high quality', the kind of girls middle class Thai men seek, are very high everywhere in Thailand. 1500-2500 baht for short times are commonplace with this 'karaoke level' of girls as I sometimes call them (though not all are found through karaokes, some being from higher end Soapies or just freelance). I even know of some hostess clubs where 3500-5000 for a short time occurs! (So who knows how much a long time would be. As far as I know Thais don't do that; neither do I).
I typically pay 1000 baht for a short time upcountry, which is about $35 now. When I was last home in the Bad Place, I picked up a fairly sexy 25ish white streetwalker who gave a great BBBJ for $30, and had full sex with a cute barely professional 21 year old call girl for $90, also including a great BBBJ. In either case the girls were just a little below what I have come to hope for in Thailand for looks, but better in terms of service (I've never found a really excellent BBBJ in Thailand).
So, as far as I can tell, prices have become roughly the same between the American mid-west and Thailand, but obviously the cost of living is much lower here, so Thai girls are making very comfortable livings (one girl I know says she makes 20, 000 / month for working 3 hrs per day).
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer;1120898]I understand that there are many beautiful Filipina girls ready for fun and play in Singapore. How does it compare to Bangkok or Hong Kong? Better, worse, or incomparable?[/QUOTE]Singapore is more expensive, but has great choice. Girls from all over Asia ply their trade
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus; 1121020]Just finished a tour. I think Nataree has some hot girls outside the front, but the fishbowl girls were definitely shagged out. Mango was good, met Nok, legs high in the air, full penetration into her butt and good kissing action, which is good because she was tight and I am on the large size, and many girls whine when they go to suck me. Amazing that these girls have had so much cock in their pussy that they still act shy, but not at Mango.
Mango has hugh mirrors so you can see her all stretched out and yourself rudely pumping her in a most unladylike way. I think Soi 24-28 is the way to go, Nana is way too touristy and trying to sell too much shit. Soi 24-28 has decent restaurants and is more upmarket, and between Mango and Snowhite you can get a quality unrushed shag for 2500 baht, anal included and shoot all over her face / tits if you like. No shame with these girls, they suck your balls and happly bend over the bed and prop up their ass on pillows for hard core anal penetration, no fuss, they know what you want.
I'm a bit sick of Thailand. It has become very mercantile and cold, relentless rip-offs and the language and cultural barriers are high. I've heard that Spain has some good action outside of Madrid and you can actually talk to the girls and feel at least some connection rather than a living masturbation tube some Thai women have become. Mongering should be about nice food, pleasant girls and steamy sex, no just sordid rooms and indifferent, jaded girls fucked by hundreds of tourists with loose pussies.
Any suggestions? Cuba? [/QUOTE]Can't beat Rio
[QUOTE=Evianist;1121297]If you're going to pay 6, 000 baht for one night, why not just stay in your home country?[/QUOTE]We know we don't have to compare with home prices, but in normal western world ("home country" for the vast majority of ISG members) you still can't get a LT for 6000B
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1121415]............ From now on all my reports will be confined to places where I got laid for less than $20. Or I will lie. My next report will be about the "10" I pulled from Brix in Singapore last night for 50 SGD.[/QUOTE]Have you already started to lie? LOL
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;1121524]Can't beat Rio[/QUOTE]Yes you can. It's being cleaned up. Help Disco was closed. Prices have gone way up. It's not that great of a place for girls anymore. Which is what Bangkok is going to turn into if, during a slow world economy, even the non-japanese will spend 6000 bhat for LT or 3000 bhat for a barfine.
[quote]Its more that Bangkok has gotten awful, not the forum.[/quote]I disagree. In BKK, it hasn't become normal to spend 6000 bhat LT. 3000 bhat for a barfine, or even 2000 bhat for ST. Yet in the past many pages we've seen guys claiming over and over that this is normal. You'd almost think there was some sort of disinformation campaign going on in here by some people with ulterior motives.
In the freelance places in both BKK and Pattaya I've paid no more than 2000 bhat for LT. Even in the gogos, maybe 1/3 of the time the girls I take for ST will just decide to sleepover be / see they don't feel like going home, and I'll get a LT for a ST price.
[quote]Most people who are mentioning them and the average going rates here don't want to ridicule the other members, but just want to help them to use their money more wisely. Of course, you are free to use it like you want, but is not it better when you can have more fun for your bucks and are not considered as a fool by the locals and (very likely) by your provider herself (even if you've claimed previously that you don't care)?[/quote]Please talk some sense into these guys before they ruin Thailand.
Hi all I just arrived in BKK last night, but had a few issues with current place I'm staying, barely able to sleep and so I'm hoping to get last minute leads on somewhere I can stay near Siam Sq for ideally under 10k a week or 25k a month starting today / tomorrow. I am only here for short term (1 month max) so hope to find something. This would really help me out right now so appreciate anyone reading this in the area who might have some suggestions or know of anything. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1121477]Most people who are mentioning them and the average going rates here don't want to ridicule the other members, but just want to help them to use their money more wisely.[/QUOTE]Fess up guys. What's the biggest tip you ever gave. For me it was a 1000B on a 2000B ST. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
[QUOTE=Borat69;1121632]Hi all I just arrived in BKK last night, but had a few issues with current place I'm staying, barely able to sleep and so I'm hoping to get last minute leads on somewhere I can stay near Siam Sq for ideally under 10k a week or 25k a month starting today / tomorrow. I am only here for short term (1 month max) so hope to find something. This would really help me out right now so appreciate anyone reading this in the area who might have some suggestions or know of anything. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There are places in BKK for 20 s25k a month. But you might have to lower your standards a bit.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1121415]You win. In the past I've reported on some places where no one was going to get out for less than $100 for a decent-looking piece of ass, mostly in Latin America, but also a couple in southeast Asia. I've been ridiculed up one side and down the other by those who think incremental expense of $5 per hour or $50 for a poke is insane. From now on all my reports will be confined to places where I got laid for less than $20. Or I will lie. My next report will be about the "10" I pulled from Brix in Singapore last night for 50 SGD.[/QUOTE]You're joking right, why do you care about what anyone here thinks? There are people are the board who are heavily invested in the rediculous price wars for their own reasons. Pay what you can afford and what you think is reasonable, the price police will get over it.
You can see why western economies have been headed straight downhill for a decade. Westerners will spend two or three times as much as they need to, and if anyone tells them otherwise they'll angrily defend their right to blow money.
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1121720]... There are people are the board who are heavily invested in the rediculous price wars for their own reasons. Pay what you can afford and what you think is reasonable, the price police will get over it. [/QUOTE]And what would be, according to you, the hidden motives of those ISG members that you are calling the "price police"? I would be wary of people who were encouraging the other members to pay more than the standard or average rates, but certainly not of those who are trying to help their fellow board members to pay less than what they are currently spending!
Isn't it better to pay what is actually reasonable by local standards? Not only you will have more fun for your bucks, it will also get you some respect from the locals (that includes the local P4P girls too!).
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1121720]why do you care about what anyone here thinks?[/QUOTE]Cannot Agree more. Post what you want and don't pay attention to the negative comments.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1121720]Pay what you can afford and what you think is reasonable[/QUOTE]Absolutely!
Should I buy a sim card / calling card or just make the few calls from hotel telephone itself?
Any sugegstions?
Quite often the words "Pay what you can afford" get brought across like some kind of excuse to justify somehow the fact that some fellow monger paid more than the going rate for a certain service.
"Pay what you can afford" implies that only because you can afford to do so, you should pay more that the next guy in order for you to get the same thing. That is like saying that the guy moving around town on public transport stops by the burger king and gets a menu for about 6 euro, then a BMW pulls over and the guy driving it goes in to get the same menu and pays 18 euro for it, and that supposed to be alright because "he can afford it".
This concept is full of shit, as you might have noticed.
Safe for a few exceptions, everybody can afford paying 6000 baht to a hookie. Everybody who is reading this anyways. Everybody who has paid an airfare from the western world to Thailand. It won't get you bankrupt to give 6000 baht away, would it? No, it wouldn't.
Contrairly to what the expression "pay what you can afford" would try to make believe, there is no pride in overpaying for anything, anywhere. It is unfair, morally bankrupt and it only is the result of a service provider trying to take advantage (successfully) of the customer.
It doesn't make you look good, it makes you look like a gullible fool.
It is inherent in women nature and expecially developed in hookers (if you haven't noticed already) , that they will try and get away with whaterer they can; whatever you, as a man, let her get away with.
This particular fellow monger, bless his heart, has mentioned how the asking price of 6000 has been brought down to 4000 and that's what they both agreed on. Later, the hookie, not having anything to lose from trying anyways, somehow talked him apart from an extra 2000 when the agreed-upon 4000 (which is already an hefty price) was already in her purse. Hell, she even tried to get a laptop and a trip to Hong kong out of him, and sadly he hasn't mentioned anything regarding how worthy she was of all she asked for!
I guess that is the kind of experience more or less everybody gets to go trough once or twice, and one talks in his fellow monger's best interest when trying to point out the ins and outs of a business transaction that could have gone better.
Just because you have got some money it doesn't make it cool for people to take advantage of you, and this is not about what you can or cannot afford, it's about balance.
We all already pay a premium price for hookies compared to the locals and probably rightly so, but to pay even more than any other foreigner pays is, simply put, a fool tax.
Thanks goddess I can afford spending 500 or a thousand euro in a day on hookies like I do in FKKs, but that doesn't mean I would give anywhere near that kind of money to a Thai bar girl.
Bless
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1121827]Should I buy a sim card / calling card or just make the few calls from hotel telephone itself?
Any sugegstions? [/QUOTE]Every 7-11 or family mart will sell you a sim card for 99 baht, even at the airport.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1121827]Should I buy a sim card / calling card or just make the few calls from hotel telephone itself?
Any sugegstions? [/QUOTE]I always buy a local SIM card. Much cheaper and usefull if a lady gives you her number. Means she can call you as well if you arrange to meet and she gets delayed by traffic.
BB
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1121720]You're joking right, why do you care about what anyone here thinks? There are people are the board who are heavily invested in the rediculous price wars for their own reasons. Pay what you can afford and what you think is reasonable, the price police will get over it.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. I do not discuss price on the forum normally. Main reason is that if I think the price is fair for the lady I agree, pay up and have fun. If I ever have to barter for a nights sex I will give up and go home.
It is impossible to say that short time is always xxx or long time is always xxxx, the resaon no two ladies are alike.
I have seen so many reports where members complain that if we pay over the top we spoil it for the regulars. So I avoid financial issues on the forum.
Well done for your honesty.
BB
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1121871]Totally agree. I do not discuss price on the forum normally. Main reason is that if I think the price is fair for the lady I agree, pay up and have fun. If I ever have to barter for a nights sex I will give up and go home.
It is impossible to say that short time is always xxx or long time is always xxxx, the resaon no two ladies are alike.
I have seen so many reports where members complain that if we pay over the top we spoil it for the regulars. So I avoid financial issues on the forum.
Well done for your honesty.
BB[/QUOTE]Don't try to BF the gogo divas of BKK or WS then, If you don't want to barter, the time where no bargirl asked how much she would get has long gone, for example If a guy tries to BF a Rainbow stunna most will quote a high price, as the hope the guy Is new and thinking with his dick, the prices are not set In stone, she might say 4-5k LT, dosn't mean she expects this, thai's love to haggle, even their hookers LOL.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1121827]Should I buy a sim card / calling card or just make the few calls from hotel telephone itself?
Any sugegstions?[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on whether you need to receive calls. If not, then set up a skpe account before travelling. Pretty well any Internet shop or if you can get wireless on your laptop or apple itouch will do.
If you need to receive calls or make calls in Thailand, sim is all you need with some prepaid minutes. Do not get the True long distance aim though. Sounds good at 2 bt a minute to USA, but it takes about 24 to become activated.
I bought some of those long distance prepaid vouchers from 7-11. I couldn't figure them out.
Hotel will suck you dry. So don't make long distance calls from your room.
I also ran into a problem with using a sim in my north American cellphone. Couldn't get 3g service and the frequency didn't match. I ended up buying a 750bt new phone from a Big C to use with my Thai sims. Just be aware that if your phone is locked, you have another issue.
How far is the four seasons from Soi Cowboy and other red light districts. Is it walkable?
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1121871]Totally agree. I do not discuss price on the forum normally. Main reason is that if I think the price is fair for the lady I agree, pay up and have fun. If I ever have to barter for a nights sex I will give up and go home.
It is impossible to say that short time is always xxx or long time is always xxxx, the resaon no two ladies are alike.
I have seen so many reports where members complain that if we pay over the top we spoil it for the regulars. So I avoid financial issues on the forum.
Well done for your honesty.
BB[/QUOTE]The over paying argument, you will spoil the market and gain no respect from the locals has been around for ages. I read similar discussions here in 2002 about overpaying, back then you could get a ST session for 1000 to 1500B and despite the big spenders, as of two weeks ago you still can. Setting aside the inflation factor, If overpaying ruins the market why are prices relatively right where they were ten years ago? WGs know that not everyone will pay them the same amount, if you offer a girl a certain amount and she rejects it move on to another. There are enough WGs in town for you to find one you want for the price you want. This is such an illogical argument because people who 'over pay' are on the extreme end of the bell curve. I haven't seen anyone encouraging others to overpay but what I've seen here is many members rabidly frothing at the mouth when someone pays an amount they think is not the norm.
Excoriating members who overpay doesn't change their behavior because if it did there would be no need to keep parroting the message thus spamming the board. Also the notion that only Barbie doll stunners are worth big bucks is off the chart looney. An average looker with a great attitude, who is obedient, willing to please and allows a man to full-fill his fantasy, deviant as his fantasy may be is worth twice as much as any stunner because stunners are generally not going to bend over and spread eagle unless of course you have my stunner but she is an exception. The price wars are analogous to the safe sex debate. People will do what they want and they should because even though we share a common bond, we're just not all the same.
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1121869]I always buy a local SIM card. Much cheaper and usefull if a lady gives you her number. Means she can call you as well if you arrange to meet and she gets delayed by traffic.
BB[/QUOTE]BB,
Thats indeed a very good point. Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1121859]Every 7-11 or family mart will sell you a sim card for 99 baht, even at the airport.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the detailed response. Now I know what to do!
Cheers
Discussions on overpaying are getting old.
I'm curious, what do you guys do with your girls when you take them for the night? It can't be fucking all the time. Do you just chill, watch TV? Do you get them to give you massages? What is it you do or recommend doing between sessions?
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1122010]Discussions on overpaying are getting old.
I'm curious, what do you guys do with your girls when you take them for the night? It can't be fucking all the time. Do you just chill, watch TV? Do you get them to give you massages? What is it you do or recommend doing between sessions? [/QUOTE]Get them to teach you some thai, talk a walk and get some street food, discuss epistemology and / or metaphysics, try to genuinely convince her there's a ghost in the room until she's about to cry, throw slices of bologna at her ass from across the room to see if they stick, let her watch shitty thai music videos while you check your email, practice transcendental meditation.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1122028]throw slices of bologna at her ass from across the room to see if they stick[/QUOTE]Priceless.
[QUOTE=Juancavd;1121951]How far is the four seasons from Soi Cowboy and other red light districts. Is it walkable?[/QUOTE]Sure, if you want to arrive a pool of sweat- it is a bit of hike 30-45 mins! Perhaps best to walk to Chitlom BTS. 5-10 mins and then take BTS to Asoke. 20 baht maybe.
Cheers,
FK
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1122046]Priceless.[/QUOTE]I thought we agreed not to talk about prices anymore and now you just support price inflation.
With your comment you will be responsible for the price increases of bologna on the Thai market!
Very bad of you! Lmao
It was Sunday night, my last night in Bangkok.
I'd been in Silom for a couple of weeks, working, without much time to venture out. I had gone by Patpong twice. The first time I went to the Strip, which was a trip. Instead of 600 Baht for a barfine, you pay 600 Baht and they draw the curtains around your bar table. Then you have an hour with your date. My only complaint is that there's not much room – you pretty much have to do it standing up, although you can rest your date's butt cheeks on the bar table. Anyway, it's a little more discrete than Star of Light, but still gives you the illusion of having sex in public, without really having sex in public. Which is important to me – there's a reason why they call me Tiny. I tipped my date 1000 Baht, which we had agreed to before time.
My second trip to Patpong I ended up at one of the King's Group Bars. I ended up with a woman that was a stunner if you like Isaan girls. But since I'm more partial to Chinese or western looking women I probably didn't appreciate her look as much as many would. The Mamasan did the negotiating as this girl spoke very little English. She started at 2000 Baht. I didn't negotiate, just said I needed to get up early the next morning, until she came down to 1000 Baht (2000 Baht including barfine and drinks) and I figured what the hell. Service was pretty lackluster – I wish I'd spent the hour or two sleeping instead of drinking and fucking at Patpong.
I also pulled a hottie from CM2 and went by a massage parlor near my hotel. But all the women I went with had that Isaan look. I was really in the mood for a Chinese looking woman, one who speaks good English. So, I figured I'd head to Nana.
I stuck my head in about 10 bars and wasn't really finding what I was looking for, although I was getting close in Rainbow 4. Then, I popped into Rainbow 2. I was blown away. I see this very petite woman, with magnificent man-made breasts. She had a Luk Kreung look, maybe 40% Chinese. 40% Italian, and the rest Thai or Malay. Short black hair. Lipstick with glitter. Every other woman in the place was dancing like she really didn't want to be there. Not Ice – she was having fun. And she knew how to move. The only minus was the tattoo over her back. But I didn't care. This was the hottest woman I've ever seen in Thailand. She stopped dancing when she saw I was totally entranced, and came over. Her perfume was intoxicating. We talked, we kissed, I paid the barfine. We discussed whether to do short time or long time. Since I had to get up early to go to Singapore, I opted for short time, and we headed to the short time hotel on the third floor of Nana. We never discussed price.
One thing I didn't mention, when she smiled, her teeth were a little funky. Given that, I can't say she's the most beautiful woman I've seen in Thailand. I'll stick by saying she's the sexiest though.
Anyway, Ice had just gotten back from England. She had a passport, which she showed to me. There was only one stamp in it, for the U. K. Another surprise – she was born in 1979. That blew me away. She was 31 years old. She had an absolutely flawless body, better than I've seen on 18 year olds. She was either just divorced or in the process of divorcing from her British husband. She said they broke up because he drank too much. She also says her customers say she's "dangerous" and a serious butterfly, so I imagine there's a little more to the story than what she was telling.
The sex was fantastic, anything I desired, and she was very responsive.
While she was in the shower, I slipped 1000 Baht in her purse. She got dressed, looked inside and counted it, and smiled, and said "You must like me a lot."
I'm looking forward to seeing her the next time I'm in Bangkok.
Every word in the preceding report is the honest to goodness truth. However, numbers have been changed for the purpose of being politically correct.
Watch for my upcoming reports appearing here soon –
The Pegasus Club – 1000 Baht.
Poseidon Model Lounge – 1000 Baht.
Any Bar on Soi 33 Including the Barfine – 1000 Baht.
Also my hotel reports –
Peninsula – 1000 Baht.
The Sukothai – 1000 Baht.
Mandarin Oriental – 1000 Baht
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1122121]numbers have been changed for the purpose of being politically correct.[/QUOTE]EXCELLENT. Hhahahahaha
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1122121]Every word in the preceding report is the honest to goodness truth. However, numbers have been changed for the purpose of being politically correct.[/QUOTE]What do you mean numbers changed, what's the point of saying you only paid 1k, when you obviously paid more?
Friday night. No plans for me tonight so a nice movie at home and some junk food seemed like a good idea, well, until I receive this message:
"I need to see you tonight. Horny. Joob joob"
I close my phone and try to go back to thinking about which movie I will watch but the message has clearly clouded my thoughts. My blood starts to slowly make its way from my brain down to my Pubic area. I am aroused and in need of a change of Plans: No movie tonight.
The girl who sent me the Message, let's call her Miss JA (so the people of the forum can't blame me again for not using names) is a lady I met through TAGGED. I believe all of you are Familiar with this Site? [url]http://www.tagged.com[/url]
She is 39 years old, has a smoking Body and is single. We got to chatting online for a Bit and it was clear she could not understand why a young guy like me was interested in an Old lady like her (did I mention she had a smoking Body and long legs?). She is separated from her Thai BF for a few months now and just want to take life as it comes to her without overcomplicating things.
I am not going into details of how I met her and got her to do sexy stuff but can do a "how to" in a separate post if needed.
I text her back: "You want to see me? Ok, Siam Paragon in 1 hour we go see movie"
I like to take these Tagged girls to movies because this is the one place where I don't have to hear them Yap away about their lives. And the place is dark enough to attempt playful things.
Fast track to the Meeting Time. I arrived there earlier than her (intentionally) and purchased tickets to some Shit thai Movie that was about to start. I picked the VIP seats in the Back where no one was booked (more expensive).
She arrived in a tight jeans miniskirt and polo shirt and god was she sexy! We exchange hellos and I told her I already have tickets. We buy some water and off we go.
The movies just started, we are the only "couple" sitting in the Back VIP and upon seeing this seats and location, she could not help but ask me in a cheeky manner "why you want seat here?"
I did not say anything and just sat down. After a few minutes of watching the movie (some shit flick where people die when they answer their phones) another couple came to sit about 5 seats away from her (same Row).
SHIT. What was supposed to be a trick from me (Frolicking with her because I don't understand the movie that is in thai) turns sour as these assholes put English subtitles!
She seems to be watching the movie intensely while I just stare at her, and after she turned her head to finally look at me she asks: "you not look movie?" "I look you" I replied, which she seemed to be what she was waiting for because we kissed right at that moment.
As the Kissing became more and more intense, I started to caress her leg and see her reaction, she did not reject my hand. I increasingly went up and closer to the opening of her Short Jeans-skirt and she opened her legs to make way for my hand. She grabbed her handbag and put it on her other leg so that the other couple (which I am sure has kinky ideas of their own) could not see.
As I was getting closer to her "Sweet area" I felt the temperature of her skin getting warmer. And much to my disappointment, she was wearing panties.
Did that Stop me? You bet the hell not! I gently inserted a finger on the side of the panties and pushed them to the side (to the best I could). She was dripping wet and completely shaved.
I stroked her pussy and clit for a while, her eyes were closed the whole time and she was clearly enjoying herself.
I tried inserting a finger inside but she removed my hand and said: "Po leaw" (enough).
She put her hand on my jeans and started caressing my groin area until my cock became very hard. There is something about a woman touching my tool in public that made me even more aroused.
She extended her arm adn could not even reach until the end of my cock (which was pointing opposite direction to her) she looked at me with hungry eyes and whispered "oh, very big".
I unzipped and let her hand roam inside my jeans. She was still caressing over the boxers until she, by herself, opened the buttons and grabbed my naked cock.
She asked if I could take it out and I did. She licked her lips and started to stroke gently up and down. She shifted positions covering as best possible with her body and hand bag so that the couple next door could not see but after a quick Glance their way, she looked me in the eye and said: "Pai leaw" (they gone).
She resumed the HJ but I had to stop her because without any lotion it was a bit painful. She offered to apply Hand Lotion from her bag but I declined and put my finger in her mouth."You want mouth?" she said and upon seeing the look in my eyes, she did not even need me to answer and lowered her head to give me a BJ.
Not easy while seating next to each other and she had to sit one more seat away so that she could lean better. She once again complimented me on the size, indicating that it was bigger than her ex BF.
The downside was that after a few minutes, she stopped telling me she was scared that someone can walk by and see us. She said she had to go toilet and I had to go too. So we packed and left.
Toilets were crowded so no chance for me to join her there.
We set a date for the next day and she made me promise to "Eat her".
That was last Friday and is still fresh in my memory. First time for both of us to go that far in a movie theatre. She also made me promise to "do new thing like that"."exciting" as she called it.
I have to say that the amount of girls that show interest to me on TAGGED is overwhelming and I will pull more girls out of there than I ever did with Camfrog.
TAGGED is my new best Friend.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1121837]Safe for a few exceptions, everybody can afford paying 6000 baht to a hookie. Everybody who is reading this anyways. Everybody who has paid an airfare from the western world to Thailand. It won't get you bankrupt to give 6000 baht away, would it? No, it wouldn't.[/QUOTE]Those of us who live and work here cannot afford to pay 6000 baht. We typically make only 30-40 thousand baht a month. I suppose if one only went for a hooker once a month one could afford to throw away money like that, but if one only had sex once a month then what's the point of living in Thailand?
@Tiny: LMAO.
@Nic: Never used Tagged, what's the advantage over say Facebook?
During my first trips to LOS I met some Tagged contacts but it was like a date in my country, even had some girls that thought I was visiting Thailand just for them. Mongering is always my top priority so theres nothing nicer than barfine / ST / LT & get strait to the point rather than meet girls from sites, invite for movie, dinner & bla bla bla.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1122278]@Tiny: LMAO.
@Nic: Never used Tagged, what's the advantage over say Facebook?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1122121]It was Sunday night, my last night in Bangkok.
Every word in the preceding report is the honest to goodness truth. However, numbers have been changed for the purpose of being politically correct.
[/QUOTE]Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.
Will you escape the flaming or people will start a debate trying to guess how much you paid?
I have just come back from a trip to Bangkok and while there I went to Soi Cowboy, particularly to Baccara. The prices are certainly steeper than the last time I went there. However I took out a girl for each night I went at 3000LT. Was that too much? The first offer was 4000 so I got it down by 1000 which I guess was ok. But the numbers of Japanese guys there! It's almost putting me off going again. Maybe I should try Tilac next time, just to compare.
Anyway the girls I barfined were lovely, very friendly, so I took them to breakfast and gave them small tips. The second one was really cool. I went to Pattaya and said I would come back and see her when I returned but alas! When I went back for her it was her day off! Nooooooo! I was very disappointed not to see her again as she was fun. I saw my first barfine girl there but I was not interested in taking her out again, but I gave her a tip for sitting and chatting with me as I left.
[QUOTE=Chingdowman; 1122377]I have just come back from a trip to Bangkok and while there I went to Soi Cowboy, particularly to Baccara. The prices are certainly steeper than the last time I went there. However I took out a girl for each night I went at 3000LT. Was that too much? The first offer was 4000 so I got it down by 1000 which I guess was ok. But the numbers of Japanese guys there! It's almost putting me off going again. Maybe I should try Tilac next time, just to compare.
Anyway the girls I barfined were lovely, very friendly, so I took them to breakfast and gave them small tips. The second one was really cool. I went to Pattaya and said I would come back and see her when I returned but alas! When I went back for her it was her day off! Nooooooo! I was very disappointed not to see her again as she was fun. I saw my first barfine girl there but I was not interested in taking her out again, but I gave her a tip for sitting and chatting with me as I left. [/QUOTE]Yes 3000 is not bad for a Baccara girl. The danger is that paying less, she won't be in a mood to give more than just one quick fuck. I recently took a girl from Dollhouse (not first time) , she was willing to fuck 3 times (and not so quick) , and hence I gave her a little bonus on top of the 3K just to make sure she would still be preferring me next time.
You have to consider several things:
* How long each sex session and how many times.
* How much total time the girl is with you.
* What customers would she have likely got if not with you.
The last factor particularly applies at Baccara as there are some girls there very popular with Japanese that can make a lot of money very easily. Some of these girls are not that pretty to my personal taste but just have a look that Japanese go for. There is one pretty girl with very large natural tits who is almost never available for long.
So the very popular girls are unlikely to be happy with 3K for LT, I guess.
Other guys will say they never paid 3000 LT, but then again they never got a quality girl at Baccara either.
If you build a very special relationship with a girl, and she enjoys fucking you immensely (can happen that Thai girls actually really like a good fuck) ;) , you might find she is willing to go for less money, when she has no customers. But these are special cases. My Dollhouse girl really was into it, but she probably didn't need all 3 rounds, and maybe wanted a bit more sleep.
If you treat girls well, they will rush to see you (if not too shy) whenever you visit their bar. If you are not worthwhile to them (or stink :eek:), they will probably avoid you.
Went to Shock 39 around 2. 30am on a Friday night. I must say I wasn't impressed with the quantity nor the quality of the freelancers. The music sucked as well. Spicy, Bossy and Climax are IMHO far better places to pick up girls after hours.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1122276]Those of us who live and work here cannot afford to pay 6000 baht. We typically make only 30-40 thousand baht a month. I suppose if one only went for a hooker once a month one could afford to throw away money like that, but if one only had sex once a month then what's the point of living in Thailand?[/QUOTE]30-40K is not bad as salary for some falang in the Philippines only earn 75% of that amount; however, the girls here are so cheap and hot also. A resident falang can easily get 4 school girls (one for each week, once or twice each week) and spent a maximum of 1. 5k each time, that's about 12k (or 8k Thai Baht) for 8x sex in a month. Not bad!
NicFrenchy, I am much older than you (I think. I am nearly 40) but I do the same thing for years. Movie! My trick is simple, I always get the backseat (lover's seat) and always remember to bring a jacket. Just enough to cover whatever we want to do without having watched or noticed by neighboring fellows. Been doing that for decade! I will also join TAGGED, I am going to Thailand next week. Any good recommendations?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1122224]Friday night. No plans for me tonight so a nice movie at home and some junk food seemed like a good idea, well, until I receive this message:
"I need to see you tonight. Horny. Joob joob"
I close my phone and try to go back to thinking about which movie I will watch but the message has clearly clouded my thoughts. My blood starts to slowly make its way from my brain down to my Pubic area. I am aroused and in need of a change of Plans: No movie tonight.
The girl who sent me the Message, let's call her Miss JA (so the people of the forum can't blame me again for not using names) is a lady I met through TAGGED. I believe all of you are Familiar with this Site?
[url]http://www.tagged.com[/url]
She is 39 years old, has a smoking Body and is single. We got to chatting online for a Bit and it was clear she could not understand why a young guy like me was interested in an Old lady like her (did I mention she had a smoking Body and long legs?). She is separated from her Thai BF for a few months now and just want to take life as it comes to her without overcomplicating things.
I am not going into details of how I met her and got her to do sexy stuff but can do a "how to" in a separate post if needed.
I text her back: "You want to see me? Ok, Siam Paragon in 1 hour we go see movie"
I like to take these Tagged girls to movies because this is the one place where I don't have to hear them Yap away about their lives. And the place is dark enough to attempt playful things.
Fast track to the Meeting Time. I arrived there earlier than her (intentionally) and purchased tickets to some Shit thai Movie that was about to start. I picked the VIP seats in the Back where no one was booked (more expensive).
She arrived in a tight jeans miniskirt and polo shirt and god was she sexy! We exchange hellos and I told her I already have tickets. We buy some water and off we go.
The movies just started, we are the only "couple" sitting in the Back VIP and upon seeing this seats and location, she could not help but ask me in a cheeky manner "why you want seat here?"
I did not say anything and just sat down. After a few minutes of watching the movie (some shit flick where people die when they answer their phones) another couple came to sit about 5 seats away from her (same Row).
SHIT. What was supposed to be a trick from me (Frolicking with her because I don't understand the movie that is in thai) turns sour as these assholes put English subtitles!
She seems to be watching the movie intensely while I just stare at her, and after she turned her head to finally look at me she asks: "you not look movie?" "I look you" I replied, which she seemed to be what she was waiting for because we kissed right at that moment.
As the Kissing became more and more intense, I started to caress her leg and see her reaction, she did not reject my hand. I increasingly went up and closer to the opening of her Short Jeans-skirt and she opened her legs to make way for my hand. She grabbed her handbag and put it on her other leg so that the other couple (which I am sure has kinky ideas of their own) could not see.
As I was getting closer to her "Sweet area" I felt the temperature of her skin getting warmer. And much to my disappointment, she was wearing panties.
Did that Stop me? You bet the hell not! I gently inserted a finger on the side of the panties and pushed them to the side (to the best I could). She was dripping wet and completely shaved.
I stroked her pussy and clit for a while, her eyes were closed the whole time and she was clearly enjoying herself.
I tried inserting a finger inside but she removed my hand and said: "Po leaw" (enough).
She put her hand on my jeans and started caressing my groin area until my cock became very hard. There is something about a woman touching my tool in public that made me even more aroused.
She extended her arm adn could not even reach until the end of my cock (which was pointing opposite direction to her) she looked at me with hungry eyes and whispered "oh, very big".
I unzipped and let her hand roam inside my jeans. She was still caressing over the boxers until she, by herself, opened the buttons and grabbed my naked cock.
She asked if I could take it out and I did. She licked her lips and started to stroke gently up and down. She shifted positions covering as best possible with her body and hand bag so that the couple next door could not see but after a quick Glance their way, she looked me in the eye and said: "Pai leaw" (they gone).
She resumed the HJ but I had to stop her because without any lotion it was a bit painful. She offered to apply Hand Lotion from her bag but I declined and put my finger in her mouth."You want mouth?" she said and upon seeing the look in my eyes, she did not even need me to answer and lowered her head to give me a BJ.
Not easy while seating next to each other and she had to sit one more seat away so that she could lean better. She once again complimented me on the size, indicating that it was bigger than her ex BF.
The downside was that after a few minutes, she stopped telling me she was scared that someone can walk by and see us. She said she had to go toilet and I had to go too. So we packed and left.
Toilets were crowded so no chance for me to join her there.
We set a date for the next day and she made me promise to "Eat her".
That was last Friday and is still fresh in my memory. First time for both of us to go that far in a movie theatre. She also made me promise to "do new thing like that"."exciting" as she called it.
I have to say that the amount of girls that show interest to me on TAGGED is overwhelming and I will pull more girls out of there than I ever did with Camfrog.
TAGGED is my new best Friend. [/QUOTE]
Can anyone recommends a good non-sexual massage near JW Marriott Hotel.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1122786]Can anyone recommends a good non-sexual massage near JW Marriott Hotel.[/QUOTE]That's like a hot fudge sundae without the hot fudge or ice cream. Why bother?
When I'm in Bangkok I mostly avoid the go go scene nowadays. The price is high, but that's not my main problem. Many of the girls don't live up to their promises they gave in the bar, they cut the visit from long to short time, refuse to do this or that.
I never get this feeling when I'm visiting the massage shops in the Sukhumvit area. Snow White, Tulip, Mango always give a good service, many things included. Total damage is 800 bt for the shop and 1500 bt for the girl, she will happily accept and offer BBBJ, A and GFE. And she will do it with a smile.
Long time is available too, but don't go before 10 pm. Otherwise it's too expensive.
I also got a very nice BJ there once but then was told later that there are some infrared cameras in some cinemas. No idea if its true.
[QUOTE=Watson29;1122763]NicFrenchy, I am much older than you (I think. I am nearly 40) but I do the same thing for years. Movie! My trick is simple, I always get the backseat (lover's seat) and always remember to bring a jacket. Just enough to cover whatever we want to do without having watched or noticed by neighboring fellows. Been doing that for decade! I will also join TAGGED, I am going to Thailand next week. Any good recommendations?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Watson29;1122763]NicFrenchy, I am much older than you (I think. I am nearly 40) but I do the same thing for years. Movie! My trick is simple, I always get the backseat (lover's seat) and always remember to bring a jacket[/QUOTE]Great Idea. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1122786]Can anyone recommends a good non-sexual massage near JW Marriott Hotel.[/QUOTE]I think the King & I soi 12 is the closest, good and Clean Legit Place.
Or you can try the one at the JW MArriott.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1122786]Can anyone recommends a good non-sexual massage near JW Marriott Hotel.[/QUOTE]I don't know the name, but its just before Soi 8 coming from JW. They have a lot of miniature waterfalls displayed in their window.
Healthland at soi19.
Google it.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1122786]Can anyone recommends a good non-sexual massage near JW Marriott Hotel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Watson29;1122763]...Movie! My trick is simple, I always get the backseat (lover's seat) and [b]always remember to bring a jacket.[/b] Just enough to cover whatever we want to do without having watched or noticed by neighboring fellows.[/QUOTE]In fact this is good advice on any occasion you visit a Thai movie theatre, for the simple reason that it is terribly cold in those places.
[QUOTE=Stevebny;1122812]That's like a hot fudge sundae without the hot fudge or ice cream. Why bother?[/QUOTE]Because not everyone is a horny 16 year old who thinks they are in candy land. Sex is part of life, not the only thing in life.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1122912]Because not everyone is a horny 16 year old who thinks they are in candy land. Sex is part of life, not the only thing in life.[/QUOTE]. And also because even a 16 year old horny guy needs some rest between sessions. I am not 16, unfortunately anyway. But I had a very good legit massage on soi 33, just in the alley facing LL. Forgot the name, but got the address from Giotto. Excellent 1 hour entirely legit massage. I went there between sessions at Snow White and Akane.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1122224]The girl who sent me the Message, let's call her Miss JA (so the people of the forum can't blame me again for not using names) is a lady I met through TAGGED. I believe all of you are Familiar with this Site?
[url]http://www.tagged.com[/url]
[. ]
I am not going into details of how I met her and got her to do sexy stuff but can do a "how to" in a separate post if needed. [/QUOTE]A guy over in the Japan forums likes Tagged, too. And he gave his game strategies, too:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1842-General-Info-Nampa&p=1093627&viewfull=1#post1093627[/url]
Tagged is okay, but it's mostly for meeting Filipinos. I live in Korea and Japan, and would like to meet Koreans and Japanese (naturally). Tagged's "Meet Me' function is pretty useless in that regard. But for meeting Filipino girls, it's a decent site.
[QUOTE=Chingdowman; 1122377]I have just come back from a trip to Bangkok and while there I went to Soi Cowboy, particularly to Baccara. The prices are certainly steeper than the last time I went there. However I took out a girl for each night I went at 3000LT. Was that too much? The first offer was 4000 so I got it down by 1000 which I guess was ok. But the numbers of Japanese guys there! It's almost putting me off going again. Maybe I should try Tilac next time, just to compare.
Anyway the girls I barfined were lovely, very friendly, so I took them to breakfast and gave them small tips. The second one was really cool. I went to Pattaya and said I would come back and see her when I returned but alas! When I went back for her it was her day off! Nooooooo! I was very disappointed not to see her again as she was fun. I saw my first barfine girl there but I was not interested in taking her out again, but I gave her a tip for sitting and chatting with me as I left. [/QUOTE]Hmm, strange, I remember I paid 2000 for ST and was told it would be 4000 for LT in Rainbow 4 back in 2006. That is more than 4 years ago. Same prices were in 2007, 2008 and during my last trip in 2009 when I got a girl in both Baccarra and Rainbow 4 for 4000LT and for 2000 ST respectively. So all in all it doesn't look like much has changed since 2006. Not to me anyway. I did have one or two girls for 3000 LT in Rainbow 4 and Baccara but in one case I think she just liked me or generally didn't care much about money and another time I tried to negotiate because I was somewhat short of cash. Admittedly I almost never try to negotiate the price or at least not in a very serious manner because it just makes me feel embarassed. Considering that most other prices in Bangkok are in fact going up (inflation is the word all over the globe these days) I think we should not complain much about 4000LT in a top bar for the top girls in what is perhaps world's top destination for mongering. What is a much bigger problem for me is that £ rate has gone down so much over the past few years which makes things more expensive for us based in the UK and earning here.
Got in on Saturday late. Went to Nana 1 AM. Starting to dislike Nana even more.
Way too many ladyboys hanging out in front of the Nana. Many years ago when they forced Nana to close at 2, the front of Nana was great at 2AM. Many female freelancers. Now the ladyboys are there the whole night (I guess when they close some of the ladyboy bars, they hang out in front of Nana). At closing time, most of the girls leave. There are only a few girls; some of them hang out in the parking of Nana hotel.
But those things are well behaved now. They don't block my path; they don't poke me and say Hello. Maybe I'm getting older and fatter. LOL!
Went to Nana disco at 2:15AM; it had a lot of people. About 60% guys 40% girls; didn't like the ratio. More girls came in later, but not much more.
Went to Soi Cowboy on Sunday. Don't like the 155 baht beers; gets expensive if you drink a lot.
That stunner (Coyote girl?) that use to hang out in front of Sahara was dancing (in shorts) at Kiss. It seems Kiss is part of that bar group since they have the same menu. That girl, what a drink fiend. She was constantly motioning to guys to buy her a drink as she was dancing. She got 1 short from this guy, and then after she finished dancing, she went to some other guy and got a drink. All this is about 15 minutes. But she's very cute.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1123067]or didn't care much about money[/QUOTE]Excuse me, I'm due back on planet earth now.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1122952]But I had a very good legit massage on soi 33, just in the alley facing LL. Forgot the name,[/QUOTE]Name is CEFLE and yes, they give great Massage, no extras.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1122839]I think the King & I soi 12 is the closest, good and Clean Legit Place.
Or you can try the one at the JW MArriott. [/QUOTE]I go to King & I all the time when I want non-sexual massage. Healthland should be good as well. It is part of a chain of upscale places.
[QUOTE=Spider916;1122741]Went to Shock 39 around 2. 30am on a Friday night. I must say I wasn't impressed with the quantity nor the quality of the freelancers. The music sucked as well. Spicy, Bossy and Climax are IMHO far better places to pick up girls after hours.[/QUOTE]How about if you aren't looking for freelancers but vanilla girls?
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1123067]Hmm, strange, I remember I paid 2000 for ST and was told it would be 4000 for LT in Rainbow 4 back in 2006. That is more than 4 years ago. Same prices were in 2007, 2008 and during my last trip in 2009 when I got a girl in both Baccarra and Rainbow 4 for 4000LT and for 2000 ST respectively. So all in all it doesn't look like much has changed since 2006. Not to me anyway. I did have one or two girls for 3000 LT in Rainbow 4 and Baccara but in one case I think she just liked me or generally didn't care much about money and another time I tried to negotiate because I was somewhat short of cash. Admittedly I almost never try to negotiate the price or at least not in a very serious manner because it just makes me feel embarassed. Considering that most other prices in Bangkok are in fact going up (inflation is the word all over the globe these days) I think we should not complain much about 4000LT in a top bar for the top girls in what is perhaps world's top destination for mongering. What is a much bigger problem for me is that £ rate has gone down so much over the past few years which makes things more expensive for us based in the UK and earning here.[/QUOTE]This post made me laugh, would you believe If the girl told you she has sick buffaloe?
What price girls quote and what price girls will be happy to go with you are two different things!
Yes for a few years now the gogo girls of BKK have been quoting 2k ST and 4k LT, especially In the Rainbow bars and Baccara etc. In fact the girls have been coached by the mamasans and other girls to ask for these rates, some bars even show you laminated signs with the prices LOL.
So you don't like to negotiate the price, I guess Thailand Is the wrong place for you then.
Say you want to buy a second hand car from a guy, It's only worth 2k, the guy quotes 5k, would you be to embarassed to offer a lower rate? With bargirls they hope you will be all farang, and not want to negotiate, and accept the first price she offers you, you can't blame them, they are business women, they expect you to negotiate, you just do it In a fun and friendly way, most will drop their rates.
Not to complain about 4k? After paying BF and expensive drinks you are looking at an expensive night out, It's attitudes like yours that have caused the rise of rates, I don't mean to flame you, but has to be said.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1123067]Hmm, strange, I remember I paid 2000 for ST and was told it would be 4000 for LT in Rainbow 4 back in 2006. That is more than 4 years ago. Same prices were in 2007, 2008 and during my last trip in 2009 when I got a girl in both Baccarra and Rainbow 4 for 4000LT and for 2000 ST respectively. So all in all it doesn't look like much has changed since 2006. Not to me anyway. I did have one or two girls for 3000 LT in Rainbow 4 and Baccara but in one case I think she just liked me or generally didn't care much about money and another time I tried to negotiate because I was somewhat short of cash. Admittedly I almost never try to negotiate the price or at least not in a very serious manner because it just makes me feel embarassed. Considering that most other prices in Bangkok are in fact going up (inflation is the word all over the globe these days) I think we should not complain much about 4000LT in a top bar for the top girls in what is perhaps world's top destination for mongering. What is a much bigger problem for me is that £ rate has gone down so much over the past few years which makes things more expensive for us based in the UK and earning here.[/QUOTE]Gosh! This thread is like the Danaides bucket! People pay what they want because there is no price, there are no stunners because tastes are different. 4000LT is cheap, and girls ask for 2000 tip and get it.
I'm happy I know my way in Thailand and don't need advice on how much to pay for pussy in this country!
[QUOTE=Pita123;1123306]How about if you aren't looking for freelancers but vanilla girls?[/QUOTE]What's a vanilla girl?
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1122912]Because not everyone is a horny 16 year old who thinks they are in candy land. Sex is part of life, not the only thing in life.[/QUOTE]Not the only thing in life. You mean there's more?
I can vouch for Healthland for legit massages though they're pricier than smaller places.
Anyone knows what's up with Barko? Tried to PM him but his inbox is full; he hasn't logged in for 2 and a half months. Hope he is alright.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1123067]I did have one or two girls for 3000 LT in Rainbow 4 and Baccara but in one case I think she just liked me or generally didn't care much about money[/QUOTE]I think the girl was probably thinking the same thing about you DT! LOL.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1123371]What's a vanilla girl?[/QUOTE]It means when a hooker only gives a very basic service, eg. No kissing, no BBBJ etc.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1123371]What's a vanilla girl?[/QUOTE]Well you know those dark chocolate girls down on Soi 3. The opposite.
No, seriously, I mean just normal girls, not freelancers, not BGs, just normal girls.
I derive it from vanilla sex. Missionary with your wife, versus kinky and swinging.
Vanilla Girl,
That's like going to a Baskin and Robbins or Swensons for Ice Cream with 31 plus favors and choices and you hold up the line, can't decide and get frustrated and order Vanilla!
LBM
Hey guys, RTFF for quite a bit and did a search but could not find any info on this.
Was having dinner in Chinatown last night and we joked with the waiter quite a bit him taking pics of our table, etc. Later he offered to take us to MP for a 180 baht massage and boom boom after for 1k with Thai girls or another place that had same same but 500 baht for Chinese girls, which had me intrigued. We said no, smelling a possible scam. Anyone know more about this?
[QUOTE=Kow Bow; 1123850]Hey guys, RTFF for quite a bit and did a search but could not find any info on this.
Was having dinner in Chinatown last night and we joked with the waiter quite a bit him taking pics of our table, etc. Later he offered to take us to MP for a 180 baht massage and boom boom after for 1k with Thai girls or another place that had same same but 500 baht for Chinese girls, which had me intrigued. We said no, smelling a possible scam. Anyone know more about this? [/QUOTE]I don't think it's a scam, Many girls in Chinatown are dirt cheap (300thb for FS) but service sucks.
They will probably take you to a MP that is usually used by Locals.
I'm a newbie in Bangkok scene. I was there last night at one of gogo bar at NEP. Initially, there is no plan of taking out girl and I just want to know what is it like as I was quite tired to actually do anything beyond it. I must say it was quite impressive for a newbie point of view. Rows of bars with naked dancers inside. There is one bar called 'Spanky' which have a show every 15 minutes, probably spank the dancers ass. But I went to the 3rd floor instead from stairs between Spanky and Rainbow (sorry, I can't recall her name). Saw a few young with good body and was attracted with one 19 year old girl. I decided to do her after mamasan approach me and we use the room upstairs.
I'm not sure if I'm ripped off. Drinks 1 beer+1 tequila 290, barfine 600, ST 2000, LT 4000, room 300. It was all printed in a laminated paper and mamasan said it cannot be reduced further when I tried to bargain. So I took the ST. When I reached the room upstairs, all the rooms are occupied and another couple was ahead of us and we have to wait 20 minutes. In the end, I didn't manage to make a shot as I was too tired. When I asked if she want to go back to my hotel for LT, she declined and say she don't like LT.
Is that the price I should pay for ST or am I being ripped off? I wonder if those girls would want LT because they can actually earn more by staying there to get multiple ST especially those pretty ones.
[QUOTE=Lee7611; 1124065]I'm a newbie in Bangkok scene. I was there last night at one of gogo bar at NEP. Initially, there is no plan of taking out girl and I just want to know what is it like as I was quite tired to actually do anything beyond it. I must say it was quite impressive for a newbie point of view. Rows of bars with naked dancers inside. There is one bar called 'Spanky' which have a show every 15 minutes, probably spank the dancers ass. But I went to the 3rd floor instead from stairs between Spanky and Rainbow (sorry, I can't recall her name). Saw a few young with good body and was attracted with one 19 year old girl. I decided to do her after mamasan approach me and we use the room upstairs.
I'm not sure if I'm ripped off. Drinks 1 beer+1 tequila 290, barfine 600, ST 2000, LT 4000, room 300. It was all printed in a laminated paper and mamasan said it cannot be reduced further when I tried to bargain. So I took the ST. When I reached the room upstairs, all the rooms are occupied and another couple was ahead of us and we have to wait 20 minutes. In the end, I didn't manage to make a shot as I was too tired. When I asked if she want to go back to my hotel for LT, she declined and say she don't like LT.
Is that the price I should pay for ST or am I being ripped off? I wonder if those girls would want LT because they can actually earn more by staying there to get multiple ST especially those pretty ones. [/QUOTE]Those prices are a bit much but those are the prices that the girls will initially ask for. These days it's difficult to get ST at Nana for under 2k, but it can be done, especially in the less popular bars. 4,000 for LT is bullshit. No way it should be that much. Even the stunners in Baccara have told me 3, 000 for LT and sometimes even 2, 000 depending on the time of night. The laminated sheet with prices. I've never seen that in bars but I guess some will try that route to try and deceive the customer and make him believe that those are the actual prices. Most girls do not want LT unless they know you and like you. Oftentimes they will agree to go LT but then change their minds in the room and make up some bullshit excuse to change it to ST.
Also strange that you had to wait 20 minutes for the room. Never had to do that and there are 2 short time rooms in Nana quite close to each other.
[QUOTE=Lee7611; 1124065]I'm a newbie in Bangkok scene. I was there last night at one of gogo bar at NEP. Initially, there is no plan of taking out girl and I just want to know what is it like as I was quite tired to actually do anything beyond it. I must say it was quite impressive for a newbie point of view. Rows of bars with naked dancers inside. There is one bar called 'Spanky' which have a show every 15 minutes, probably spank the dancers ass. But I went to the 3rd floor instead from stairs between Spanky and Rainbow (sorry, I can't recall her name). Saw a few young with good body and was attracted with one 19 year old girl. I decided to do her after mamasan approach me and we use the room upstairs.
I'm not sure if I'm ripped off. Drinks 1 beer+1 tequila 290, barfine 600, ST 2000, LT 4000, room 300. It was all printed in a laminated paper and mamasan said it cannot be reduced further when I tried to bargain. So I took the ST. When I reached the room upstairs, all the rooms are occupied and another couple was ahead of us and we have to wait 20 minutes. In the end, I didn't manage to make a shot as I was too tired. When I asked if she want to go back to my hotel for LT, she declined and say she don't like LT.
Is that the price I should pay for ST or am I being ripped off? I wonder if those girls would want LT because they can actually earn more by staying there to get multiple ST especially those pretty ones. [/QUOTE]Yes as Mango said the prices are the usual prices quoted by these gogo bars, don't believe the laminated price list BS, It's just a way to fool newbies, did you mention this was your first time? 2k ST has been the going rate for many of the stunnas In NEP and Cowboy, but many will still go for 1. 5k ST, LT Isn't as easy, as Mango said, quite a few girls only want ST, as they can earn more baht doing a couple of ST's a night, and be back home to their thai bf's by 3am, remember the girls expect you to haggle.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1122276]Those of us who live and work here cannot afford to pay 6000 baht. We typically make only 30-40 thousand baht a month. I suppose if one only went for a hooker once a month one could afford to throw away money like that, but if one only had sex once a month then what's the point of living in Thailand?[/QUOTE]
How often do you have sex? Is it always BB?
Just curious, not judging. I am neutral on the subject.
Have always enjoyed your posts here, even if i occasionally disagree with you.
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1121960]The over paying argument, you will spoil the market and gain no respect from the locals has been around for ages. I read similar discussions here in 2002 about overpaying, back then you could get a ST session for 1000 to 1500B and despite the big spenders, as of two weeks ago you still can. Setting aside the inflation factor, If overpaying ruins the market why are prices relatively right where they were ten years ago? WGs know that not everyone will pay them the same amount, if you offer a girl a certain amount and she rejects it move on to another. There are enough WGs in town for you to find one you want for the price you want. This is such an illogical argument because people who 'over pay' are on the extreme end of the bell curve. I haven't seen anyone encouraging others to overpay but what I've seen here is many members rabidly frothing at the mouth when someone pays an amount they think is not the norm.
Excoriating members who overpay doesn't change their behavior because if it did there would be no need to keep parroting the message thus spamming the board. Also the notion that only Barbie doll stunners are worth big bucks is off the chart looney. An average looker with a great attitude, who is obedient, willing to please and allows a man to full-fill his fantasy, deviant as his fantasy may be is worth twice as much as any stunner because stunners are generally not going to bend over and spread eagle unless of course you have my stunner but she is an exception. The price wars are analogous to the safe sex debate. People will do what they want and they should because even though we share a common bond, we're just not all the same. [/QUOTE]Excellent post. IMO, prices remain much the same as 10 years ago due to the economy being fucked.
Especially in the last few years, and Siam having so many problems politicly which has effected the tourism business there.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1122010]Discussions on overpaying are getting old.
I'm curious, what do you guys do with your girls when you take them for the night? It can't be fucking all the time. Do you just chill, watch TV? Do you get them to give you massages? What is it you do or recommend doing between sessions? [/QUOTE]
Drink alcohol / get hammered, french kiss for an hour, watch DVD's & cuddle 2 hrs, eat, get a BBBJ for 3 hours, shower, take a 3rd TG & fuck her for 60 minutes, shower again, sleep. Repeat the next day. Oh yeah! ;
Re massages, all Thais are into this, though unfortunately those who love kissing are much more rare. Feel
free to give her a massage, too.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1122786]Can anyone recommends a good non-sexual massage near JW Marriott Hotel.[/QUOTE]What is "good" is in the eye of the beholder. You need to explain that. For some a good massage.
Is hard, for others soft, still others don't care as long as she is hot, and yet others like a tickle
Type of massage, etc. Personally I would suggest the mall right across the street, which has had
At least two businesses that offer such a service.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1122028]Get them to teach you some thai, talk a walk and get some street food, discuss epistemology and / or metaphysics, try to genuinely convince her there's a ghost in the room until she's about to cry, throw slices of bologna at her ass from across the room to see if they stick, let her watch shitty thai music videos while you check your email, practice transcendental meditation.[/QUOTE]LOL. Be nice. Many working TG's are very superstitious, spooked easily, & take ghosts seriously.
As for discussing deep philosphy, don't listen to this guy, newbies. TG's are more of the mindset.
To enjoy a 3 Stooges type of movie {IOW your typical Thai TV}.
[QUOTE=Stevebny;1122812]That's like a hot fudge sundae without the hot fudge or ice cream. Why bother?[/QUOTE]Massages are something physical to do and enjoy with a woman when not having sex.
Maybe put one in the mood for the next session. Surely you aren't banging TGs 24/7,
Are you?
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1123145]Got in on Saturday late. Went to Nana 1 AM. Starting to dislike Nana even more.
Way too many ladyboys hanging out in front of the Nana. Many years ago when they forced Nana to close at 2, the front of Nana was great at 2AM. Many female freelancers. Now the ladyboys are there the whole night (I guess when they close some of the ladyboy bars, they hang out in front of Nana). At closing time, most of the girls leave. There are only a few girls; some of them hang out in the parking of Nana hotel.
But those things are well behaved now. They don't block my path; they don't poke me and say Hello. Maybe I'm getting older and fatter. LOL!
Went to Nana disco at 2:15AM; it had a lot of people. About 60% guys 40% girls; didn't like the ratio. More girls came in later, but not much more.
Went to Soi Cowboy on Sunday. Don't like the 155 baht beers; gets expensive if you drink a lot.
That stunner (Coyote girl?) that use to hang out in front of Sahara was dancing (in shorts) at Kiss. It seems Kiss is part of that bar group since they have the same menu. That girl, what a drink fiend. She was constantly motioning to guys to buy her a drink as she was dancing. She got 1 short from this guy, and then after she finished dancing, she went to some other guy and got a drink. All this is about 15 minutes. But she's very cute. [/QUOTE]Things seem to be changing since I was there a year ago. If what you say is correct,
The LB's are getting more agressive. Also Nana disco {in the hotel across from NEP}
Was closed down when I was there. Not that I ever went in, though, as the parking lot.
SW's & those nearby were my style.
What criteria do you use to decide on successful LT? Younger / older, stunner / average? Suggests your place immediately or suggests going somewhere to eat / dance etc?
I can think of a few things, but as someone with limited LOS experience I would like to ask those with knowledge for some wisdom. I am especially curious about timing the pick up. Obviously ST can be anytime, but is there a preferred window of opportunity for LT?
Reading all these reports it is obvious ST is pretty easy, but an enjoyable LT seems more of a challenge. Any hints, aside from the obvious that you like her and she (at least appears) to like you?
With only a couple nights this trip I probably will give Mango a try for some PSE outcall. But once relieved I'll hunt for an LT. A lot is written about LL, and that seems like a safe start.
I really would like to find an LT like I did last time, as she was great (met her at a soapy, hit it off, and she came to my room after she got off, stayed over and hooked up again later).
Ideally we meet up early, sex, dinner, sex, dancing, sex, sleep, sex, breakfast, sex, bye-bye, or maybe meet again. Course all that is not going to happen, but you get the basic idea.
Appreciate the help.
AT - great question.
Clearly, you know that LT can be quite different experience from ST, and that "clicking" with the person is the key issue. Your question (I think) is whether there are any shortcuts to figuring that out on a short trip without too many days to waste.
My guess is no, but I would add this suggestion from my experience. The LTs I have tried have been much more fun for me when the woman was more mature and appreciative of the opportunity to be with me. So I would generally prefer older to younger, nice looking to stunner. Older women IMHO are generally (not always, of course) better at pleasing me; more understanding of what I may want or need, and just benefiting more from experience (it has to count for something!). Those characteristics go a long way towards making it a pleasure to wake up in the morning next to someone who wants to do more with me rather than counting the minutes until the LT clock is up. I have had a few of those when I chose eye candy over common sense.
Of course, you may be significantly younger than I am (50 something) , so the issue may be different for you.
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1124115]What criteria do you use to decide on successful LT? Younger / older, stunner / average? Suggests your place immediately or suggests going somewhere to eat / dance etc?
I can think of a few things, but as someone with limited LOS experience I would like to ask those with knowledge for some wisdom. I am especially curious about timing the pick up. Obviously ST can be anytime, but is there a preferred window of opportunity for LT?
Reading all these reports it is obvious ST is pretty easy, but an enjoyable LT seems more of a challenge. Any hints, aside from the obvious that you like her and she (at least appears) to like you?
With only a couple nights this trip I probably will give Mango a try for some PSE outcall. But once relieved I'll hunt for an LT. A lot is written about LL, and that seems like a safe start.
I really would like to find an LT like I did last time, as she was great (met her at a soapy, hit it off, and she came to my room after she got off, stayed over and hooked up again later).
Ideally we meet up early, sex, dinner, sex, dancing, sex, sleep, sex, breakfast, sex, bye-bye, or maybe meet again. Course all that is not going to happen, but you get the basic idea.
Appreciate the help. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lee7611;1124065]1 beer+1 tequila 290, barfine 600, ST 2000, room 300...I didn't manage to make a shot as I was too tired.[/QUOTE]God I wish I could be a fly on the wall when the girls go back to the bar and share their "war stories" w / their friends, in this case something like,"he pay 3, 290 baht (15 days minimum wage for a thai!) and he no finish."
Note to OP; get some rest
Tomorrow is Thai holiday Makha Bucha. Are the bars and discos are open tonight and tomorrow night? And liquor can be sold?
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1124115]What criteria do you use to decide on successful LT? Younger / older, stunner / average? Suggests your place immediately or suggests going somewhere to eat / dance etc?
I can think of a few things, but as someone with limited LOS experience I would like to ask those with knowledge for some wisdom. I am especially curious about timing the pick up. Obviously ST can be anytime, but is there a preferred window of opportunity for LT?
Reading all these reports it is obvious ST is pretty easy, but an enjoyable LT seems more of a challenge. Any hints, aside from the obvious that you like her and she (at least appears) to like you?
With only a couple nights this trip I probably will give Mango a try for some PSE outcall. But once relieved I'll hunt for an LT. A lot is written about LL, and that seems like a safe start.
I really would like to find an LT like I did last time, as she was great (met her at a soapy, hit it off, and she came to my room after she got off, stayed over and hooked up again later).
Ideally we meet up early, sex, dinner, sex, dancing, sex, sleep, sex, breakfast, sex, bye-bye, or maybe meet again. Course all that is not going to happen, but you get the basic idea.
Appreciate the help. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Stew2; 1124123]AT. Great question.
Clearly, you know that LT can be quite different experience from ST, and that "clicking" with the person is the key issue. Your question (I think) is whether there are any shortcuts to figuring that out on a short trip without too many days to waste.
My guess is no, but I would add this suggestion from my experience. The LTs I have tried have been much more fun for me when the woman was more mature and appreciative of the opportunity to be with me. So I would generally prefer older to younger, nice looking to stunner. Older women IMHO are generally (not always, of course) better at pleasing me; more understanding of what I may want or need, and just benefiting more from experience (it has to count for something!). Those characteristics go a long way towards making it a pleasure to wake up in the morning next to someone who wants to do more with me rather than counting the minutes until the LT clock is up. I have had a few of those when I chose eye candy over common sense.
Of course, you may be significantly younger than I am (50 something) , so the issue may be different for you. [/QUOTE]I agree with Stew's post, there is no short cut, all down to If you both click, also agree older ladies are usually better at treating the guy well, they probably don't get BF every night so rely on repeat customers, unlike some of the young gogo divas who won't want to do a LT, well maybe not until 1am, and then they might not won't to stay long, all depends on your taste of lady, how much they like you, and a bit of luck.
[QUOTE=Asian Travels;1124115]What criteria do you use to decide on successful LT?[/QUOTE]Do ST first. If all goes well, extend it to a LT
I've started seeing this office girl on the side but I can't bring her to my place because of my main girl. Is there a short time hotel I could take her but doesn't look like a short time hotel? She's an office girl so if I stroll up to some regular bg short time hotel she'll freak. Sooo I need to find a place that's more casual, any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Gfighta;1124311]I've started seeing this office girl on the side but I can't bring her to my place because of my main girl. Is there a short time hotel I could take her but doesn't look like a short time hotel? She's an office girl so if I stroll up to some regular bg short time hotel she'll freak. Sooo I need to find a place that's more casual, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]As a follow up to this has anyone used a karaoke club? In Japan it's very common to go to a karaoke club for the privacy and not necessarily for the singing. Places like the hip hotel or big echo karaoke, are the rooms private enough? The good thing is they are obviously sound proof.
I always use Maxim Inn or World Inn both on sukhmuvit 7/1. 800-1000 bht range.
Moderate rooms.
[QUOTE=Gfighta;1124311]I've started seeing this office girl on the side but I can't bring her to my place because of my main girl. Is there a short time hotel I could take her but doesn't look like a short time hotel? She's an office girl so if I stroll up to some regular bg short time hotel she'll freak. Sooo I need to find a place that's more casual, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gfighta;1124311]I've started seeing this office girl on the side...Is there a short time hotel I could take her[/QUOTE]You could ask her where she went with the last guy.
[QUOTE=Gfighta;1124311]I've started seeing this office girl on the side but I can't bring her to my place because of my main girl. Is there a short time hotel I could take her but doesn't look like a short time hotel? She's an office girl so if I stroll up to some regular bg short time hotel she'll freak. Sooo I need to find a place that's more casual, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]No need for a short time hotel, just book a regular hotel. It will cost between 2, 000 or 3, 000 thb.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1124430]No need for a short time hotel, just book a regular hotel. It will cost between 2, 000 or 3, 000 thb.[/QUOTE]. Reminder to self. Why OG's may cost more than a lady is openly selling herself.
Then also along with getting too comfortable with both of them, trying / avoiding them crossing same time / space.
Nothing like a angry thai lady. See what happens in their soapy shows!
[QUOTE=MilesToGo; 1124447]. Reminder to self. Why OG's may cost more than a lady is openly selling herself.
Then also along with getting too comfortable with both of them, trying / avoiding them crossing same time / space.
Nothing like a angry thai lady. See what happens in their soapy shows! [/QUOTE]Yeah I know all about Thai ladies and their skills with the scissors. The og is leaving for the US in a few months for work so I just want to have some fun while she's here. I've thought about the main hotels but 3000 baht for a couple of hours is paaang mak mak. I'm going to check out some of the karaoke places and will report back what I find.
Presently in Pattaya, wrote my very first two reports from there yesterday night. Before going to P, I spent 4+6 days in BKK, my first visit to LOS.
Came here well prepared from reading everything written in the forum during the last two years. Thank you everybody for all valuable reports!
Came here with a detailed plan, knowing that I could very well change it. Since my time was so limited, and that I am not very likely to return, I wanted a plan that would involve low risk for bad or mediocre experiences. After careful studies even outside of ISG, my plan was to see a few carefully selected independent escorts, with solid reviews, plus some girls from Livingstones Sports Bar. One or two soapies should also be had.
The first night I had booked an escort named Lily Lee. A bit older, but with very good impressions from own website as well as from e-mail conversation before my arrival. She arrived a little earlier than agreed upon, but called from reception area to check if it was OK to come. She came.
Not as beautiful as the photos, probably due to them not being all that recent, but still looking good. It took me less than a minute to realize that I was up for a great start of this journey.
So lovely, so caring, so sexy, so horny, yes, no doubt about it. I managed two great rounds in the big bed, plus dinner in between, before we turned of the lights. After some two hours, she woke me up, started to kiss me and do me all over with hands, boobs and mouth. Never thought I would make it a third time, being not that young anymore. But Lily Lee was not to be stopped. She started sucking me and after a while the third condome was in use, and it was just as good as the evening sessions. Wow, LOS!
She left in the morning, which was fine, I needed some more sleep. Sh is soon to move to another country, so I guess You will not have much use for her contact details.
Day 2.
According to my plan I spent a few early evening hours in Cowboy go go's, just to warm up before going to LL and the famous Sports Bar. Cowboy did not impress on me, maybe it was just too early. The girls at the Sports Bar DID impress on me!
More about that in the next report.
BG
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1124287]I agree with Stew's post, there is no short cut, all down to If you both click, also agree older ladies are usually better at treating the guy well, they probably don't get BF every night so rely on repeat customers, unlike some of the young gogo divas who won't want to do a LT, well maybe not until 1am, and then they might not won't to stay long, all depends on your taste of lady, how much they like you, and a bit of luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, Jerboa and Stew.
The point about ST being more profitable for younger girls is a good one. I'll cross the go-go divas off the list.
The idea of booking ST first with an eye for extenstion is also pretty good. I was going under the impression that they had to return to "work", but perhaps they are more free then I was thinking.
In truth I prefer women in their late 20s at least since they are more interesting and skilled than the young ones but are still in decent shape compared to those in their late 30s.
ROOKIE QUESTIONS: What is a barfine, really? I understand it is money paid to the owner when you are taking a girl from the premises, but I don't understand the bargirl system. Are they paying to be there as well (renting bar space)? Or do they get a wage (as they attract paying customers)? Do bar owners collect barfines from us for "freelancers/nonstaff" as well? Do they discourage freelancers from hanging out?
Feel free to answer or ignore, as it is just curiosity here.
So, coming to Livingstones Lodge, LL, after reading a lot about it, was exciting. Was greeted and taken care of already on the street outside the entrance, asked to be shown to the Sports Bar (SP). I told the statuesque mamasan Jen, that I wanted company, someone beautiful and with some English skills. Was introduced to two very good looking girls, and of course I could not choose, but asked both of them to join me and have a drink. We had had two drinks sitting comfortably in a sofa, with lots of good vibes, laughter, touching and kissing. Decided to invite them to dinner on site, which they happily agreed to. Having read a number of positive reeports about the food at LL, but was still amazed by the quality of the Thai food they served. Dinner was very nice, with a growing erotic atmosphere around (and under) the table. Told the girls I was stying in a nice hotel not too far away and that I would like to barfine them both for short time. They happily approved and off we went in a taxi.
Arriving with two girls at Sheraton Grande was totally hazzle free, no one asked or said a word. Put on some good music and started some serious interaction in the big sofa.
Soon, after showers, we all happily joined each other in the comfortable bed. Lots of good kissing all over, incl DFK with both of them. Soon I had one giving BBBJ and the other sitting on my face. Not bad at all.
The one sitting on my face wanted me to take her from behind, which I happily did until I came. Great shag, good BBBJ, everything above expectations. So lovely, affectionate, fun and caring. We spent 2 plus hours together in the room, and after they had left I had a new plan for my remaining 2 plus 6 days in BKK.
The girls names? Huan and Nam.
More to come,
BG
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1124467]ROOKIE QUESTIONS: What is a barfine, really? I understand it is money paid to the owner when you are taking a girl from the premises, but I don't understand the bargirl system. Are they paying to be there as well (renting bar space)? Or do they get a wage (as they attract paying customers)? Do bar owners collect barfines from us for "freelancers / nonstaff" as well? Do they discourage freelancers from hanging out?
Feel free to answer or ignore, as it is just curiosity here. [/QUOTE]The girls get a salary simply to be there. Somewhere in the range of maybe 7, 000-10, 000 / month. They're required to get a certain number of ladydrinks a month, maybe something like 30, and also a certain number of barfines, maybe 10 (rough estimates on the numbers; I think they might be low). From the ladydrinks and the barfines they get a certain amount of the money back from the bar, maybe 1/3. Then obviously they get to keep all the money the customer gives to them.
I've rarely seen freelancers hanging out in a gogo bar. Don't think it really happens. Not really any reason for them to do so when they could go to a freelancer hangout.
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22;1124185]Tomorrow is Thai holiday Makha Bucha. Are the bars and discos are open tonight and tomorrow night? And liquor can be sold?[/QUOTE]I have the same concern. I know for sure that all the rainbows in Nana will be closed. And likely the others too. I just had major disappointment with massage as most are closed and those that are open, don't have both quantity and quality.
In the morning on my third day in BKK, I cancelled the other well reputed escorts I had booked for days 3, 5 and 9. Early evening I returned to LL and the SB. Now, on my second visit, I was treated like a VIP. Restaurant manager, mamasan Jen and the lovely Som, in charge of most things of interest, all treated me overwhelmingly well. I invited the two girls from last night for drinks, and suddenly a third one appears. Of course she was welcome as well! Same procedure as last night, drinks, fondling a lot in a dark corner of the SB, lots of nice kissing, also with number 3, named Miao. We all had another great dinner on site, enjoying each others company a lot.
Told the girls that I can not handle mor than one at a time, and tonight I would barfine Miao. No problems with anyone, everybody happy!
Off we went, the other two girls waving us good by, wishing us a lovely evening. It was. The new girl seemed to be really horny. We had a nice bath together, with lots of play. In bed she sucked good and the sex was brilliant. Tight, good moves, lovely DFK. After the first round we rested in bed, and I told her I would not make it another time tonight. She did not approve! After an hour or so, she started working me up, and it worked, finishing in her mouth this time. Very nice. Slept, alone, like a baby.
I was hooked on the girls from LL and the SB.
Next day, my fourth in BKK, I thought I needed to rest my old friend, but in the afternoon I somehow walked up to Soi 33 to Akane massage, and asked for a nuru session with two girls. Girls parading, I chose one and told her to choose a good partner. She did, and we went to a decent room. The two girls were all smiles and good attitude. The nuru part was a bit too short, but the actual sex in bed was terrific. They were a great team, and kept smiling and laughing with great attitute all the way. A very pleasant deviation from the LL activities.
Later at night, I showed up again in the sports bar at LL, but only for drinks, or so I thought. After drinks and dinner I felt the energy coming back and took Huan with me to Sheraton. Another round of very good play, lots of kissing, cuddling, showering and boom boom. A hell of a girl!
After these four days I went north, to the mountains and was a happy tourist for a week.
Before I left, I booked my upcoming 6 days in BKK at LL. My newly found paradise.
More to come,
BG
Bill Goates,
Excellent Reports, keep them coming
After 4 days, or rather nights, of pure bliss, it was time to travel north. Just before I had to leave the city, I thought I might squese in a short visit to the famous Annies Massage. Found it, and asked for a soapie version. At this early hour the choice was limited, but I got a nice enough girl who took well care of me during a short hour.
Coming back from the mountain trip, I went straight to LL, by the help of them sending me a driver to pick me up.
Was met by the lovely Som and was tken to the room I had chosen.
At night I met my now three lovelies in the Sports Bar. We had a great time in he very dark corner inside the bar, where there is a nice sofa and some privacy. The drinks came and the fondling was extensive, erotic and with lots of laughs. Som and mamasan Jen seemed rather interested in taking part in our little party, which just added to the wonderful atmosphere we created.
Dinner followed, as usual now, always fab food and even really good wines. Told the girl my plan; One girl per night for the following three nights, then I would need some rest for two nights, and on my last night we would spend the whole evening together, barfining them all.
Started with theeautiful Huan. She was very hot that night. She kept coming and coming as I ate her pussy, asking for more and more. Sucked me good and I finished deep inside her.
Next evening, same same, but with Nam. So sweet and ever so caring. We had a long erotic session in the jacuzzi. Always hot, always playful and fun. Sex in bed, nothing new, but very, very good.
Third evening, same same same, but now with Miao, from Laos. She has the most kissable lips, and she really knows how to use them, both on my mouth and on my still performing member. She is very thight nd the final was extatic!
The fourth night, on which I was supposed to rest, ended in bed with Huan, again. Could not resist myself, or her total charm. Just as good as before.
The following nights I was sick, had some bad food on an excursion in Konchanaburi. End of fun in BKK, now off to more touristy travels, before going to Pattaya. That is wherer I am now, and I have started some reporting on that thread.
BG
I am a newbie as well. If you don't mind me asking how much was the bar fine at LL, and for LT
Very well written report. I will contribute very soon
[QUOTE=Nonipaa; 1124577]I am a newbie as well. If you don't mind me asking how much was the bar fine at LL, and for LT
Very well written report. I will contribute very soon[/QUOTE]Well, not cheap, but for a once in life experience, I don't really care. The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000.
But, staying there, the barfines were all turned into "accomodation" on my bill, on my request, which for me means they are covered by my company.
BG
[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124580]Well, not cheap, but for a once in life experience, I don't really care. The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000.
But, staying there, the barfines were all turned into "accomodation" on my bill, on my request, which for me means they are covered by my company.
BG[/QUOTE]BF at LL starts at 1500, and goes down to 1000 after 12 pm and to 700 at closing. (correct me if I am wrong)
You can negotiate the rates. I never paid more than 2K LT at LL. (but that was a couple of years ago). Even then 5K is a bit steep. Should be able to get it around 3K.
Granted it has been a year since I have been to LL but plan is to return this fall. Last year year the BF was charged by the time of night you BFed them. I have always paid 2000 st and 3000 LT. I never negotiate with them aand just pay that. I guess because I have been staying there for a few years I might have better understanding of the going rate. Remember always bargin if not sure.
Still if you had a good tme, that is what is important.
I am on my first visit to Thailand and have been in Bangkok the past few days and everything has been a massive shock to my previous visits throughout Europe. On Thursday night I went to the NEP (Nana Plaza) and visited three different bars between 11. 30 and 1. 45am, being completely new I was not sure what to find and expect.
After the three bars and despite seeing several girls I liked I decided to leave as Nana is more of a touristy place in my opinion as the bars were just full of guys watching the shows and none of the girls would approach you, only the bartender to sell over-priced drinks. The one girl I really wanted was a bartender so she was probably off the menu. It looks as if you must be really straight to the point to get what you want in Nana, this coupled with the crazy prices and over abundance of Ladyboys saw me jumping in a Tuk-Tuk and heading over to soi cowboy for 100thb, this was not good as my hotel was within walking distance of NEP and my plan was to use Nana to score ass while in Bangkok.
Anyway Soi Cowboy is much different and where NEP is a three storey shopping mall of pussy & Ladyboys; by comparison Soi Cowboy is a street of bars, go-gos etc. After walking it about three times I was eventually ushered into the Sahara by a really nice older lady who is in her early thirties but looking well. We sat inside and it became obvious that despite her age and maybe 6. 5/10 looks that we were "clicking". We had two drinks a lady drink (150thb) and a sprite (120thb) , her barfine then came to 800thb which is expensive and I think will stick with Freelancers once I get over to Pattaya for the rest of my trip.
After about half an hour in the club I took her for ST for 2000thb, we then went back to my hotel (Ibis on Nana soi 4). The hotel is GF and no joiner fees or any of that BS and booking for two is the same price as for one. After going to the hotel we showered and were very intimate although did not actually have any sex as I was tired and she was not that type of girl for me, instead I asked her for long time and offered her another 2000thb to spend the night and she did, we made out and did some BF / GF stuff and chatted using google translate. We then both fell asleep about 4. 30am, two hours later at about 6. 30 her phone rang and woke us, which was annoying, however we then stayed awake and got down to business with her giving me two great CBJs (the rubber being my idea) and I actually never had intercourse with her. However there was a great emotional bond and I really enjoyed my time with her.
In the morning at 9 she called a friend of hers and the three of us went out of the city for the day on a tour of the temples in Ancient Siam and as it was Mung Boran it was an important day for her as a Buddhist. This was a brilliant experience for me to have her as my own guide and her friend who is a taxi driver and professional photographer. His cost for the day was 1000thb, although when I saw the photos he took of me I gave him 2000thb in the evening as he was such a nice guy.
While the sex side was far from the best or cheapest, the GFE and tour laid on the following day was supremely good and as I wrote earlier before coming out here this is what I wanted from my trip to Thailand was some emotions and GFE not just raw sex. And as someone else wrote here it is sometimes not the 10/10 girls who are the best and while my friend for the day was not the best looking she more than compensated with her attitude and guided tour.
Absolutely brilliant so far and I can't wait to get to Pattaya for some cheaper p4p.
[b]Costs:[/b]
Bar fine at Sahara 800thb.
Drinks at Sahara 270thb.
ST for Lady 2000thb.
LT extension 2000thb.
Lady = 5070thb.
Tour: Driver and Photo guide tip 2000 (well deserved)
Admission prices on tour, food, trinkets and snacks all came to around 3000. I know I could have done it cheaper independently however this way was the best as I had my own GF for the day, taxi driver and professional photographer, VIP style!
In total I paid about 8000thb for about 18hours, and before some blasts me for overpaying or saying you paid 8000thb for two blowjobs, the experience and enjoyment I had was priceless for me.
[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124580]Well, not cheap, but for a once in life experience, I don't really care. The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000.
But, staying there, the barfines were all turned into "accomodation" on my bill, on my request, which for me means they are covered by my company.
BG[/QUOTE]You read 200 pages of this forum, and the best plan you could come up with was to schedule some internet escorts and then go to LL and get ripped off?
[QUOTE=Winthorp;1124778]In total I paid about 8000thb for about 18hours, and before some blasts me for overpaying or saying you paid 8000thb for two blowjobs, the experience and enjoyment I had was priceless for me.[/QUOTE]Excellent Report! And don't worry about the price you pay, if you can afford it then who cares?
You said it very well: the important is the experience and feeling after it is all said and done. Glad you enjoyes your time.
So many people come here on a 2 weeks vacation and start Nickeling & Diming that they forget about the actual experience and the fun one can have.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1124779]You read 200 pages of this forum, and the best plan you could come up with was to schedule some internet escorts and then go to LL and get ripped off?[/QUOTE]Please, do not worry about my plan or my expenses, I had a faboulous time, could not have been better, for ME. Every single minute spent with these girls were worth what I paid, may times over.
BG
I am happy for your having been able to have meaningful experience, even if for only a few hours, with a nice Thai lady. This is what memories are made of.
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1124467]Thanks for the tips, Jerboa and Stew.
The point about ST being more profitable for younger girls is a good one. I'll cross the go-go divas off the list.
The idea of booking ST first with an eye for extenstion is also pretty good. I was going under the impression that they had to return to "work", but perhaps they are more free then I was thinking.
In truth I prefer women in their late 20s at least since they are more interesting and skilled than the young ones but are still in decent shape compared to those in their late 30s.
ROOKIE QUESTIONS: What is a barfine, really? I understand it is money paid to the owner when you are taking a girl from the premises, but I don't understand the bargirl system. Are they paying to be there as well (renting bar space)? Or do they get a wage (as they attract paying customers)? Do bar owners collect barfines from us for "freelancers / nonstaff" as well? Do they discourage freelancers from hanging out?
Feel free to answer or ignore, as it is just curiosity here. [/QUOTE]Well yes the young stunnas can be hard work, but you can pick a gem sometimes.
Once the BF Is paid they usually have no obligation to return back to the bar, BUT depends on the girl, you have more chance If It's late for her to stay rather than return back to the bar for another ST.
A lot of the thai ladies that look late 20s are sometimes mid 30's.
A barfine Is a charge you pay to the bar for taking a lady away, this Is to compensate the bar, as with no ladies the bar will be quiet, the lady usually gets a percentage of this, you still obviously have to tip the lady at the end of the session, NOT before.
[QUOTE=Bill Goates;1124453]Came here well prepared from reading everything written in the forum during the last two years. Thank you everybody for all valuable reports![/QUOTE]Really? Then you wasted a few hours of your life.
After reading 2yrs of post you make the mortal sin of booking an ESCORT In BKK! And with all the mongering options In the city you just took girls from Livingstones, the soi 33 BF's are overpriced. 1500b for a BF just because the girl puts on a dress and tarts herself up a bit, and you paid them 5k each? Wow they must of luved your wallet maak maak!
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1124648]BF at LL starts at 1500, and goes down to 1000 after 12 pm and to 700 at closing. (correct me if I am wrong)
You can negotiate the rates. I never paid more than 2K LT at LL. (but that was a couple of years ago). Even then 5K is a bit steep. Should be able to get it around 3K. [/QUOTE]I doubt Bill knows what negotiate means LOL.
[QUOTE=Jerboa; 1124817]Really? Then you wasted a few hours of your life.
After reading 2yrs of post you make the mortal sin of booking an ESCORT In BKK! And with all the mongering options In the city you just took girls from Livingstones, the soi 33 BF's are overpriced. 1500b for a BF just because the girl puts on a dress and tarts herself up a bit, and you paid them 5k each? Wow they must of luved your wallet maak maak! [/QUOTE]Hope you enjoy your trying to making fun of others just as much as you enjoy your mongering.
With these kinds of comments I will not bother this forum with more reports. It does not add to the fun I am having in the LOS.
BG
Thanks for the reports Bill Goats. Keep writing. I appreciate it. Souds like you had fun.
3x in one night? I just did that at an FKK a few weeks back. Never thought I had it in me either.
Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124453]Presently in Pattaya, wrote my very first two reports from there yesterday night. Before going to P, I spent 4+6 days in BKK, my first visit to LOS.
Came here well prepared from reading everything written in the forum during the last two years. Thank you everybody for all valuable reports!
She left in the morning, which was fine, I needed some more sleep. Sh is soon to move to another country, so I guess You will not have much use for her contact details.
Day 2.
According to my plan I spent a few early evening hours in Cowboy go go's, just to warm up before going to LL and the famous Sports Bar. Cowboy did not impress on me, maybe it was just too early. The girls at the Sports Bar DID impress on me!
BG[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jerboa; 1124817]Really? Then you wasted a few hours of your life.
After reading 2yrs of post you make the mortal sin of booking an ESCORT In BKK! And with all the mongering options In the city you just took girls from Livingstones, the soi 33 BF's are overpriced. 1500b for a BF just because the girl puts on a dress and tarts herself up a bit, and you paid them 5k each? Wow they must of luved your wallet maak maak! [/QUOTE]Instead of playing the judgemental motherfucker of the Forum, post some real reports.
With the Oscars coming up, I thought for a bit of sanook we should have our own awards. Not sure what to call them but here are the rules:
1. This is for the time period March 2010 to February 2011 and limited to only Bangkok.
2. One entry per category. That becomes your official vote point in that category. If you just can't narrow it down to a single entry in a category, your point will be split accordingly.
3. VERY IMPORTANT: If you haven't used the service or been to the location don't fill in the category.
4. Copy the categories below and PM me your answers. The winners will be announced after the Oscars.
5. One casting per person please. No ballot stuffing, just pussy stuffing.
6. If you have more interesting categories, add them in. If appropriate, they can become official categories next year.
7. If you're not sure what a category means use your judgement. I hesitate giviing examples as that may lead people on.
Best Massage Parlor.
Best Bar / Club.
Best BJ Bar / Club.
Best Independent SP Bar / Club.
Best Show.
Best ST Hotel.
Best Escort Agency.
Best 3 SPs (name / location or Agency)
1.
2.
3.
Best Independent Escort.
Best Online Forum.
What the eff should these Awards be called?
Some feedback for winthorp:
[QUOTE=Winthorp; 1124778]I am on my first visit to Thailand and have been in Bangkok the past few days and everything has been a massive shock to my previous visits throughout Europe. On Thursday night I went to the NEP (Nana Plaza) and visited three different bars between 11. 30 and 1. 45am, being completely new I was not sure what to find and expect.
After the three bars and despite seeing several girls I liked I decided to leave as Nana is more of a touristy place in my opinion as the bars were just full of guys watching the shows and none of the girls would approach you, only the bartender to sell over-priced drinks. The one girl I really wanted was a bartender so she was probably off the menu. It looks as if you must be really straight to the point to get what you want in Nana, this coupled with the crazy prices and over abundance of Ladyboys saw me jumping in a Tuk-Tuk and heading over to soi cowboy for 100thb, this was not good as my hotel was within walking distance of NEP and my plan was to use Nana to score ass while in Bangkok. [/quote]It can be a little hard to get the hang of the gogo bars in the beginning. In some of the places where it seems like the guys are just watching and the girls won't approach you, it's simply because it's more japanese style. The girls are trained to wait until the guy requests them, which is usually done by asking the waitress for her number. Try it out next time and buy the girl a drink, if only for the practice. Or try Spanky's, Mandarin, or Angelwitch, where the girls are more likely to make the first move.
Nana isn't really that touristy in my opinion. Cowboy is more so.
[quote]Anyway Soi Cowboy is much different and where NEP is a three storey shopping mall of pussy & Ladyboys; by comparison Soi Cowboy is a street of bars, go-gos etc. After walking it about three times I was eventually ushered into the Sahara by a really nice older lady who is in her early thirties but looking well. We sat inside and it became obvious that despite her age and maybe 6. 5/10 looks that we were "clicking". We had two drinks a lady drink (150thb) and a sprite (120thb) , her barfine then came to 800thb which is expensive and I think will stick with Freelancers once I get over to Pattaya for the rest of my trip.[/quote]Avoid sahara in the future. It's run by the worst owner, and 800 baht is the highest barfine of any gogo bar in cowboy or nana. Sounds like you lucked out by picking a nice older lady, but most of the time you won't be so lucky.
[quote]After about half an hour in the club I took her for ST for 2000thb, we then went back to my hotel (Ibis on Nana soi 4). The hotel is GF and no joiner fees or any of that BS and booking for two is the same price as for one. In the morning at 9 she called a friend of hers and the three of us went out of the city for the day on a tour of the temples in Ancient Siam and as it was Mung Boran it was an important day for her as a Buddhist. This was a brilliant experience for me to have her as my own guide and her friend who is a taxi driver and professional photographer. His cost for the day was 1000thb, although when I saw the photos he took of me I gave him 2000thb in the evening as he was such a nice guy.
While the sex side was far from the best or cheapest, the GFE and tour laid on the following day was supremely good and as I wrote earlier before coming out here this is what I wanted from my trip to Thailand was some emotions and GFE not just raw sex. And as someone else wrote here it is sometimes not the 10/10 girls who are the best and while my friend for the day was not the best looking she more than compensated with her attitude and guided tour.
In total I paid about 8000thb for about 18hours, and before some blasts me for overpaying or saying you paid 8000thb for two blowjobs, the experience and enjoyment I had was priceless for me. [/QUOTE]Ibis Nana has some pretty good buffets. Check them out.
Always bargain the ST down to 1500. Especially for an older lady that shouldn't be a problem at all. You overpaid a bit, but it sounds like she made it up to you by playing tour guide. The "friend" had me wondering if it was a boyfriend, but who gives a shite really. For a newbie you could have done a lot worse.
[QUOTE=Stevebny;1124870]Best Online Forum.[/QUOTE]Seriously? You want people to talk about other Forums here? Good luck guys, proceed with caution. Your account could get suspended for this me-thinks.
[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124833]Hope you enjoy your trying to making fun of others just as much as you enjoy your mongering.
About the terrorists, like Evianist and jerboa.
You had very well planned your visit, and made the most of it. You had the time of your life. While these suckers are constantly maoning, unhappy because they spend their time arguing about price instead of enjoying klife.
I will not bother this forum with more reports. It does not add to the fun I am having in the LOS.
BG[/QUOTE]. About the terrorists, like Evianist and jerboa.
You had very well planned your visit, and made the most of it. You had the time of your life. While these suckers are constantly moaning, unhappy because they spend their time arguing about price instead of enjoying life.
Please continue to post, Most of us would like to hear more about your successes. Whatever the price.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1124928]Seriously? You want people to talk about other Forums here? Good luck guys, proceed with caution. Your account could get suspended for this me-thinks.[/QUOTE]OK, you're awake. Honestly, I'm expecting everyone to say ISG but if anyone feels weird about any of the categories, don't answer it.
Still, have fun.
[QUOTE=Stevebny; 1124870]With the Oscars coming up, I thought for a bit of sanook we should have our own awards. Not sure what to call them but here are the rules:
1. This is for the time period March 2010 to February 2011 and limited to only Bangkok.
2. One entry per category. That becomes your official vote point in that category. If you just can't narrow it down to a single entry in a category, your point will be split accordingly.
3. VERY IMPORTANT: If you haven't used the service or been to the location don't fill in the category.
4. Copy the categories below and PM me your answers. The winners will be announced after the Oscars.
5. One casting per person please. No ballot stuffing, just pussy stuffing.
6. If you have more interesting categories, add them in. If appropriate, they can become official categories next year.
7. If you're not sure what a category means use your judgement. I hesitate giviing examples as that may lead people on.
Best Massage Parlor.
Best Bar / Club.
Best BJ Bar / Club.
Best Independent SP Bar / Club.
Best Show.
Best ST Hotel.
Best Escort Agency.
Best 3 SPs (name / location or Agency)
1.
2.
3.
Best Independent Escort.
Best Online Forum.
What the eff should these Awards be called?[/QUOTE]Vote for me as the biggest idiot. I didn't realize that to use the PM system I'd have to pay. Sorry, my money goes to Pla, Ploy, May, etc. So guys just reply and post your votes if any.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1124888]Some feedback for winthorp:
It can be a little hard to get the hang of the gogo bars in the beginning. In some of the places where it seems like the guys are just watching and the girls won't approach you, it's simply because it's more japanese style. The girls are trained to wait until the guy requests them, which is usually done by asking the waitress for her number. Try it out next time and buy the girl a drink, if only for the practice. Or try Spanky's, Mandarin, or Angelwitch, where the girls are more likely to make the first move.
Nana isn't really that touristy in my opinion. Cowboy is more so.
Avoid sahara in the future. It's run by the worst owner, and 800 baht is the highest barfine of any gogo bar in cowboy or nana. Sounds like you lucked out by picking a nice older lady, but most of the time you won't be so lucky.
Ibis Nana has some pretty good buffets. Check them out.
Always bargain the ST down to 1500. Especially for an older lady that shouldn't be a problem at all. You overpaid a bit, but it sounds like she made it up to you by playing tour guide. The "friend" had me wondering if it was a boyfriend, but who gives a shite really. For a newbie you could have done a lot worse. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, her friend was definitely not her boyfriend (or else he is a master of deception) as he was a few years younger than her and there was nothing to suggest this between them, and I'd say he must be an old friend or maybe gay or something.
I tried Spanky's and Angel Witch on that first trip to Nana and neither of them had girls to make the 1st move. I will hit up Nana again tonight to see if I can improve my game. I will try get an LT for 3, 000 tonight. Who knows!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1124855]Instead of playing the judgemental motherfucker of the Forum, post some real reports.[/QUOTE]Well said, totally agree.
AF
[QUOTE=Stevebny; 1124870]With the Oscars coming up, I thought for a bit of sanook we should have our own awards. Not sure what to call them but here are the rules:
<cut [/QUOTE]Look, nice idea, but most guys on the forum are too lazy or don't use PM. But prove me wrong, if have received lots of votes already.
How will your results be auditable? There are a lot of bullshit artists going around on forums. Not a comment on you personally. Just general observation.
You could consult all the reports made for the last year, use them to apportion votes, and tally them yourself to get some idea of the best new experiences for the year. Things that guys have been going to for years may not get reported. This approach would be more auditable, but hard work for you!
I'm going to Chiang Mai Monday for a couple of days. Should I bring a girl (pro or non-pro) with me from BKK or Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Winthorp;1124961]I tried Spanky's and Angel Witch on that first trip to Nana and neither of them had girls to make the 1st move. I will hit up Nana again tonight to see if I can improve my game. I will try get an LT for 3, 000 tonight. Who knows![/QUOTE]
Yeah just remember you're not in the west now, and here a lot of the girls are shy and kind of expect you to be a man and initiate. Can be a tough transition in the beginning if you're used to manly western women. I know in places like upstairs Mandarin (entrance on 2nd floor with stairs up to the 3rd floor) and rainbow 1 & 4, a waitress / mamasan will usually always come over to me and ask which girl I like. Tell her and she'll send the girl over and you can buy her a drink and talk to her. If a girl has been making eye contact or smiled at you, definitely don't be afraid to tell the waitress you want to see her. If you're on a short trip, you don't really have the luxury to wait for them to come to you.
Bill Goates,
Thanks, sir, for sharing your exciting & erotic experiences.
It's always good to see well written reports of those who had the time of their lives in Siam.
Sadly I can't say the same for the jealous MF's who have no joy of life, which I'm sure you are familiar with after reading so much of the content here.
Hope to hear from you again if you are ever in LOS again. Cheers!
[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124833]Hope you enjoy your trying to making fun of others just as much as you enjoy your mongering.
With these kinds of comments I will not bother this forum with more reports. It does not add to the fun I am having in the LOS.
Well I'm sure you're a big boy Bill, and can handle my comments, It's not ment to make fun of you, It's constructive critism to show your wallets been taken for a ride, you could of been a little more adventurous, rather than stick to Livingstone and pay over the odds, for 5k you could of shagged a Penthouse model!
BG[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1124855]Instead of playing the judgemental motherfucker of the Forum, post some real reports.[/QUOTE]Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one! Instead of humouring a newbie I say It how it Is.
If you want to see my reports check out the German sections on here.
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1125032]If you want to see my reports check out the German sections on here.[/QUOTE] By-the-way, another option available would be for him to stop playing out the dead beat stereotype of the arrogant Frenchy and just add you to the ignore list and quit moaning himself. LOL
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1116940]It depends where the guy gets the girl from. If he's dropping 3000ST for a nana, cowboy, Pattaya, or freelancer than, yah he is a loser siimply because he is paying above market price.
If he is paying market price 3000ST (BKK massage parlor) than he is not an idiot.[/QUOTE]Perhaps so, but I've had hot TG's willing to do BBFS for 5K Baht and thought that was reasonable for 60 minutes of banging. I've also given 2K to average Nana PL SWs who normally get 1K ST because they were rimming me for an hour. IOW ST prices should be dependent on what service is being given. I wouldn't give 50 Baht to a stunner if all she did was talk or have dinner or drinks with me, though I might offer 1K just for cuddling and 2K for DFK only. When special services are not required and it's just the standard BJ & lay, then the usual ST & LT rates are probably applicable, but even then one might want to make sure with the lady that this is her understanding. If a guy is too big or lasts too long, it may be a problem for some women or they might be expecting a fairly sizable tip.
BTW, why should a BKK MP cost more than the others mentioned? Personally I prefer the SWs.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1124990]I'm going to Chiang Mai Monday for a couple of days. Should I bring a girl (pro or non-pro) with me from BKK or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]No, there is a street full of small beer bars there and / or if this is not enough, there are 2 MP downtown. There is a Chiang Mai Thread and I have already posted reviews there. Have Fun
[QUOTE=Bill Goates;1124580]The BF was 1500 and girls charged 5000[/QUOTE]Wait, don't tell me when you were born.
I know.
Yesterday.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1125043]By-the-way, another option available would be for him to stop playing out the dead beat stereotype of the arrogant Frenchy and just add you to the ignore list and quit moaning himself. LOL[/QUOTE]He may be arrogant, he may be French, but. He provides this forum with the most detailed info, that none of the other moaners are even close to provide.
[QUOTE=Littletruths;1125043]By-the-way, another option available would be for him to stop playing out the dead beat stereotype of the arrogant Frenchy and just add you to the ignore list and quit moaning himself. LOL[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jerboa;1125032]Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one! Instead of humouring a newbie I say It how it Is. If you want to see my reports check out the German sections on here.[/QUOTE]And when you have 3, 000+ posts your opinions might be listened to as much as Nic's.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1125227]And when you have 3, 000+ posts your opinions might be listened to as much as Nic's.[/QUOTE]What has amount of posts got to do with being listened to? Some forum poster can write 1, 000 crap and stupid post, does that make them a more Informed poster than a guy who only posts 200 or so well Informed posts?
Incidently I have been a long time poster on the W*S*G forum. But have only been posting on ISG for a couple of years, mainly In the well Informed German sections, so just because a poster dosn't have 1, 000s of post should not make a difference If he talks sense.
[QUOTE=Nishu617;1125280]Which 3 star hotels of bankok and Pattaya are best for taking girls in to room without charge and even hotel is gud?[/QUOTE]Have you tried reading the BKK and Pattaya hotel threads? In Patts I like to stay at the [url]http://www.queenvictoria-inn.com/[/url] On soi 6, prices from 500b-900b, clean rooms, AC, en-suite, TV / DvD, fridge, free Wi-fi and a good english pub downstairs, there are so many of good choices In town depends where you want to stay.
In BKK I prefer to stay out of the lower Sukh ghetto, but many guys like the Majestic suite near to nana.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1125071]He may be arrogant, he may be French, but. He provides this forum with the most detailed info, that none of the other moaners are even close to provide.[/QUOTE]This forum represents a gold mine of useful informations for the world traveller as well as for the average guy planning a simple vacation. I have found myself more than once in the situation of being into an airport somewhere around the world knowing with just hours of notice that I was going to stop over god-knows where for a night or a few days or so and have had the day saved by the info available on here just by logging in while waiting for the flight.
I have the utmost respect for this forum's contributors and strive to give back to the forum something worthwhile whenever I can. All contributors to the forum are to be respected, whether their contribution comes in form of factual and useful information, pictures, or even funny stories and interesting subjects.
Alas, addressing fellow forum members with terms such as "motherfucker" is one shortcoming that could and should easily be avoided, even more so by such an estabilished member, hence my few words concerning the arrogance.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1125227]And when you have 3, 000+ posts your opinions might be listened to as much as Nic's.[/QUOTE]LOL! Are you trying to say that your dick is bigger than mine perhaps? Or is it that your dad could beat my dad up in a fist fight?
Bottomline, let's try not to over-pollute the forum with too much off-topic garbage like arguing over who said what and why. Respect for each other's opinion and if not interested just stay away, nobody will try and force it down anybody's throat, it's that simple.
Bless
[QUOTE=Jerboa; 1125032]Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one! Instead of humouring a newbie I say It how it Is.
If you want to see my reports check out the German sections on here. [/QUOTE]Well, we are different: I do have one arsehole, granted, but I have more than one opinion.
[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1125413]This forum represents a gold mine of useful informations for the world traveller as well as for the average guy planning a simple vacation. I have found myself more than once in the situation of being into an airport somewhere around the world knowing with just hours of notice that I was going to stop over god-knows where for a night or a few days or so and have had the day saved by the info available on here just by logging in while waiting for the flight.
I have the utmost respect for this forum's contributors and strive to give back to the forum something worthwhile whenever I can. All contributors to the forum are to be respected, whether their contribution comes in form of factual and useful information, pictures, or even funny stories and interesting subjects.
Alas, addressing fellow forum members with terms such as "motherfucker" is one shortcoming that could and should easily be avoided, even more so by such an estabilished member, hence my few words concerning the arrogance.
LOL! Are you trying to say that your dick is bigger than mine perhaps? Or is it that your dad could beat my dad up in a fist fight?
Bottomline, let's try not to over-pollute the forum with too much off-topic garbage like arguing over who said what and why. Respect for each other's opinion and if not interested just stay away, nobody will try and force it down anybody's throat, it's that simple.
Bless[/QUOTE]You are right, it is not the number of posts which matters, but the number of post with quality information which matters. You don't need to go back much to see very useful info on this and other BKK threads by Nic. Whether yours, sorry, but.
Again agree that there is no need to pollute the forum with arguments. Just a pity that you did not think of that earlier when you started this fight.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1125431]Again agree that there is no need to pollute the forum with arguments. Just a pity that you did not think of that earlier when you started this fight.[/QUOTE] Alright then, finally some common ground. This is no kindergarten and there is no "fight" going on that I am aware of.
Cheers
As someone with limited Thai experience I appreciate the detail of the reports. How much you paid is good info for us, and we can choose to do as you did or negotiate.
Obviously some posters have fatter wallets than others, and those with the cash get to enjoy the experience without the hassle of wondering if it is too much or not.
The steep 1500 BF at LL was a surprise to me. I was contemplating going there, but may reconsider (or not, as it does sound like a good place to eat). But obviously LL is providing a safe, known environment for mongers such as ourselves, and can command a premium of 1200 or so. Good on them for providing the service.
By the way, there is a Thailand Forum Fight Club for those who want to continue insulting each other.
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1125553]As someone with limited Thai experience I appreciate the detail of the reports.
The steep 1500 BF at LL was a surprise to me. I was contemplating going there, but may reconsider (or not, as it does sound like a good place to eat). But obviously LL is providing a safe, known environment for mongers such as ourselves, and can command a premium of 1200 or so. Good on them for providing the service.
[/QUOTE]At least it is up front and clear. You can always get someone from outside when you are staying at LL and pay a smaller bar fine. I find LL to be a comfortable and safe home base.
Following on from Nic Frenchy's advice (call a girl up from Mango if you're only in town for 1 night. [url]http://www.mangomassagebangkok.com/shop.html#ladies[/url]. Venus wasn't available so I checked out other reports on ISG) and some other report on Fa ([url]http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/lady/fa/fa.html[/url]) from Snow White Massage, I called her up for the night. I was only in downtown Bangkok for 10 hours. In transit. From midnight onwards. So no time for a more considered approach. I'd previously called Snow White before leaving N. America and had been given her cell number. At least that is what I thought it was. After I called it after getting to my hotel, she turned up at my hotel 45 mins later around 1am and looked pretty much like her pictures. Touched up pictures no doubt, but not massively so.
Just off a flight and knowing I was short on time, I probably came on a bit strong, so backed of a bit which did the trick. Came once from behind and once via blow job. Good blow job to. Then crashed. Of course being on western time, I awoke early. Which meant she did to. A bit grumpy being woke up at 5am, but she did the business and then it was off for some breakfast. She was perfectly OK, but didn't particularly turn my crank so I knew I wouldn't bother calling on my return trip 10 days later. But she's fairly chipper, good personality, fine looks and good performance so I wouldn't discourage others. Who knows, your mileage might be much better. Now part 2. Well pretty much the same limited time constraints of 1 night. But way different outcome. To be continued. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Second Coming;1125560]At least it is up front and clear. You can always get someone from outside when you are staying at LL and pay a smaller bar fine. I find LL to be a comfortable and safe home base.[/QUOTE]If I know someone can afford it, I always introduce them to LL (as well as other options, of course). A girl from the Sports Lounge once took a friend of mine who got sick to the hospital, just part of taking care of him during LT.
[QUOTE=Engjoe;1125603]Now part 2. Well pretty much the same limited time constraints of 1 night. But way different outcome. To be continued. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Ah. You have to arrange yourself to try and enjoy Bangkok for a longer period of time. Then you can meet a few of us and have a great time.
My story is pretty much the same as yours except that I started flight from New Zealand. Long flight, landed at 9 and reached hotel citadines@sukhumvit 23 around 10. 30.
Thanks to Excellent advise by many forum members, the hotel choice was perfect, there is action available bang opposite the hotel door! LOL. Too much action actually.
Called SW but found out that all three if my choices, run, nn and may are gone permanently. A bit dissapointed so decided not to go to Mango as it was midnight already and ventured to a message parlour just opposite to hotel. Sagitha something. Chose a provider, young. 20ish with see cup. They have three levels of rooms upstairs, basic but sufficient. Told her not to worry about message and went staright for an hour of "quickie". Very good response, nothing was off the table and walked away after 40 mins, damage. 2000 bahts.
Slept like a baby for 7 hours and ready for more. Stay tuned.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Engjoe; 1125603]Following on from Nic Frenchy's advice (call a girl up from Mango if you're only in town for 1 night.
[url]http://www.mangomassagebangkok.com/shop.html#ladies[/url]
Venus wasn't available so I checked out other reports on ISG) and some other report on Fa (
[url]http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/lady/fa/fa.html[/url]
) from Snow White Massage, I called her up for the night. I was only in downtown Bangkok for 10 hours. In transit. From midnight onwards. So no time for a more considered approach. I'd previously called Snow White before leaving N. America and had been given her cell number. At least that is what I thought it was. After I called it after getting to my hotel, she turned up at my hotel 45 mins later around 1am and looked pretty much like her pictures. Touched up pictures no doubt, but not massively so.
Just off a flight and knowing I was short on time, I probably came on a bit strong, so backed of a bit which did the trick. Came once from behind and once via blow job. Good blow job to. Then crashed. Of course being on western time, I awoke early. Which meant she did to. A bit grumpy being woke up at 5am, but she did the business and then it was off for some breakfast. She was perfectly OK, but didn't particularly turn my crank so I knew I wouldn't bother calling on my return trip 10 days later. But she's fairly chipper, good personality, fine looks and good performance so I wouldn't discourage others. Who knows, your mileage might be much better. Now part 2. Well pretty much the same limited time constraints of 1 night. But way different outcome. To be continued. Cheers. [/QUOTE]
Guys, advise needed.
Being in love with an uzbek, Russian, turkmen, or even a thai lady, does it ever work out?
My friend claims he is in love and won't let go. Anything I say, he goes on the defence, I can't get him to let go and she won't let him go.
She also claims she no longer works, huh, huh, huh, thats what I say.
He says she differnent.
Seriously need to hear other members comments.
[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1125553].
The steep 1500 BF at LL was a surprise to me. I was contemplating going there, but may reconsider (or not, as it does sound like a good place to eat). But obviously LL is providing a safe, known environment for mongers such as ourselves, and can command a premium of 1200 or so. Good on them for providing the service. [/QUOTE]LL is in Soi 33. If you don't know, Soi 33 is filled with high end (?) bars where 1500 B is the norm. They cater to mainly Japanese clientele. However, you always have the option to wait till closing to get the lowest BF rate. Also, this is a boutique business hotel which Giotto does not want to turn into Nana Plaza.
[QUOTE=Hugolov;1125726]She also claims she no longer works.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. I've known girls who have sponsors abroad sending up to 50, 000 baht a month of "pocket money" and the girls still end up working the same job while promising that she never works and so on. They get bored of not working and will sometimes find local and foreign giks to fuck them and spend on with your money.
As we always thought.
' U can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl '!
[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1125789]Bullshit. I've known girls who have sponsors abroad sending up to 50, 000 baht a month of "pocket money" and the girls still end up working the same job while promising that she never works and so on. They get bored of not working and will sometimes find local and foreign giks to fuck them and spend on with your money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hugolov; 1125726]Guys, advise needed.
Being in love with an uzbek, Russian, turkmen, or even a thai lady, does it ever work out?
My friend claims he is in love and won't let go. Anything I say, he goes on the defence, I can't get him to let go and she won't let him go.
She also claims she no longer works, huh, huh, huh, thats what I say.
He says she differnent.
Seriously need to hear other members comments.[/QUOTE]Oh, where have I heard this story.
It happens to all of those who "fall in love" with bargirls. I suggest reading "The Private Dancer" by S. Leather: [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Private-Dancer-Stephen-Leather/dp/9810539169[/url]
This is a fictional story but it describes very real situations with bargirls. Many of the episodes in the book I have experienced myself. Anyway, since love is such a bizzaire thing, I suggest your friend give it a go because learnign the "hard way" may be a better cure than just trying to get away from it. Just one condition: NO MONEY. Not even a penny. Not even when her "mama ill, need money" or "papa ill, need money". If after a few of such requests (sometimes indirect) and negative replies from your friend she won't disappear out of the picture, he may well give her a go.
The sponsorship game is very popular among bargirls (especially the pretty ones and with some brains. And I pay my respect to them for being able to make money in such an easy way) and they indeed may have a bunch of guys sending them money every month from abroad. Hell, I would do the same if I was a Thai bargirl!
Got up in the morning to recover from the long and late night night flight from new zealand and decided to walk to Soi 26 from Asok Station.
A bit of rambling. This is what I hate about Asia, congested dirty streets, way too many people, stinkks, noise and pollution although I am greatful to pollution as it kept the harsh sun out.
Anyways reached Snowwhite message, easy to find green building and went in. Receptionist called the 6/7 girls so that I could have a look but did not like even one of them. NIN / May / Run had all quit so decided to walk away.
Went to Mango message and was expecting the same dissappointing process as could not find any attarctive face in their site either.
Ploy was only one I liked and. Yepp, she was no longer with them. Saw the line up, did not like anyone except that I saw a girl who caught my eye. It was Kan. A bit bustier and more attractive than others.
Went up for one hour. And after a shower and a few sips of soft drink went straight for business. No questions asked. Everything was on the menu, excellent response, very good body by local standards.
Spent an hour, gave her 2000 bahts and walked away happily.
Am yet to get a message in Thailand though.
PS Any recommendations for any other MP worker with good bust and awesome service between Soi 24 and Asok Station area?
[QUOTE=Hugolov; 1125726]Guys, advise needed.
Being in love with an uzbek, Russian, turkmen, or even a thai lady, does it ever work out?
My friend claims he is in love and won't let go. Anything I say, he goes on the defence, I can't get him to let go and she won't let him go.
She also claims she no longer works, huh, huh, huh, thats what I say.
He says she differnent.
Seriously need to hear other members comments. [/QUOTE]Get your friend to empty his bank account, then flush all the money down the shitter, then he have no money, same same If he falls In love with a bargirl LOL.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1125892]The sponsorship game is very popular among bargirls (especially the pretty ones and with some brains. And I pay my respect to them for being able to make money in such an easy way) and they indeed may have a bunch of guys sending them money every month from abroad. Hell, I would do the same if I was a Thai bargirl![/QUOTE]I had one girl in Pattaya tell me about her sponsors. This was after she tried the "sick mama needs leg operation" routine on me and right after she got into a phone argument from one of her sponsors. The guy was upset that she might be working and threatened to cut off her money. She said she wasn't working and she wasn't! She was on the phone talking to the guy. After she hung up then she started working.
She kept hinting that for 10000B a month she'd always be available for me. Put a stick in my ass and call me a sucker. No thanks.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1125789]They get bored of not working and will sometimes find local and foreign giks to fuck them and spend on with your money.[/QUOTE]Spot on. I have been that Foreign Gik on many occasions. The latest one was a 20 years old Student that was living in Petchaburi. An apartment paid for by a wealthy older Italian dude who would only come see her in Summer.
The Bloke pays her school and her Rent. + gives her Pocket money.
She has pictures of him in the Apartment.
Met her via Camfrog. (many others are also using Tagged, TLL, AFF.)
[QUOTE=Margaya;1125645]ventured to a message parlour just opposite to hotel. Sagitha something.[/QUOTE]The Place is Sathiga Massage and yes, they offer FS.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1125972]Spot on. I have been that Foreign Gik on many occasions. The latest one was a 20 years old Student that was living in Petchaburi. An apartment paid for by a wealthy older Italian dude who would only come see her in Summer.
The Bloke pays her school and her Rent. + gives her Pocket money.
She has pictures of him in the Apartment.
Met her via Camfrog. (many others are also using Tagged, TLL, AFF.) [/QUOTE]If they keep doing that, the stupid tarts are going to get caught, and the gravy train will be derailed.
Italians use camfrog too.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1125999]If they keep doing that, the stupid tarts are going to get caught, and the gravy train will be derailed.
Italians use camfrog too. [/QUOTE]They might use Camfrog, but don't blame me, these young girls are horny and the dildos don't satisfy them Fully
[QUOTE=Stevebny;1125955]Put a stick in my ass and call me a sucker[/QUOTE]That's just funny as hell. Never heard that one. Hope my feeble mind can remember it long enough to use it.
Slim
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1125972]Spot on. I have been that Foreign Gik on many occasions. The latest one was a 20 years old Student that was living in Petchaburi. An apartment paid for by a wealthy older Italian dude who would only come see her in Summer.
The Bloke pays her school and her Rent. + gives her Pocket money.
She has pictures of him in the Apartment.
Met her via Camfrog. (many others are also using Tagged, TLL, AFF.) [/QUOTE]I also know a slightly older girl with the same situation but the sponsor was stupid enough to let the girl work in the same bar he found her except she could not go with other customers for sex. I guess she could not wait a full year to see him. It was funny hearing the long-distance phone calls inside the bedroom which went for hours and the girl was making "I'm bored" gestures to me in silent during the phone call many times but this crazy American would keep not stop yak-yak about things like "do you love me, do you miss me" etc. Etc.
Serves him right. I am sorry but if a Dude is Stupid enough to send money to his girl and not live here, then he truly deserves what's coming.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1125892]Oh, where have I heard this story.
It happens to all of those who "fall in love" with bargirls. I suggest reading "The Private Dancer" by S. Leather:
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Private-Dancer-Stephen-Leather/dp/9810539169[/url]
Just one condition: NO MONEY. Not even a penny. Not even when her "mama ill, need money" or "papa ill, need money". ! [/QUOTE]Yeah yeah. But what if buffalo is sick?
[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1126080]I also know a slightly older girl with the same situation but the sponsor was stupid enough to let the girl work in the same bar he found her except she could not go with other customers for sex. I guess she could not wait a full year to see him. It was funny hearing the long-distance phone calls inside the bedroom which went for hours and the girl was making "I'm bored" gestures to me in silent during the phone call many times but this crazy American would keep not stop yak-yak about things like "do you love me, do you miss me" etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]
Don't know if she's still there, but as of a few months ago the most attractive girl at Sheba's on Soi Cowboy had the same deal. She could work at the bar but her boyfriend didn't let her go with customers. I think she even lived with him too.
No idea why a guy would go for that.
Also knew a Rainbow 1 girl who quit working because she got sponsored and wanted me as her regular gik while her sponsor was out of the country. Would run out to the balcony when he called to try to hide it (him from me and me from him). But she'd get jealous pissy at me if other girls would leave me messages on facebook, when meanwhile I wasn't even her first boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1126109]But she'd get jealous pissy at me if other girls would leave me messages on facebook, when meanwhile I wasn't even her first boyfriend.[/QUOTE]You allowed a hooker on your Facebook Page? Wow. As far as I am concerned, I quit mixing up the 2.
If I want a steady fuck with Giks, I turn to non-pros and if I want to do P4P then so be it, I pay to get serviced.
Obviously, being a resident and having deep pockets helps greatly.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1125932]Spent an hour, gave her 2000 bahts and walked away happily.[/QUOTE]In case anyone is reading this as advice, the normal price is 1500 baht, and 400 to the shop downstairs.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1126127]You allowed a hooker on your Facebook Page? Wow. As far as I am concerned, I quit mixing up the 2.
If I want a steady fuck with Giks, I turn to non-pros and if I want to do P4P then so be it, I pay to get serviced.
Obviously, being a resident and having deep pockets helps greatly. [/QUOTE]The well-marked dividing line between hookers and non-pros in Thailand, eh? If you find out where it is, be sure to let us know. I actually trust the hookers more, because at least you know for sure that they're hookers.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1126090]Serves him right. I am sorry but if a Dude is Stupid enough to send money to his girl and not live here, then he truly deserves what's coming.[/QUOTE]And yet we'll pay to keep lawyers on retainer or buy into timeshares. Peoples, if you have that much money to waste, send it my way.
Thanks guys for all the replies, I hope he sees the light, or he will learn an expensive mistake.
Once again thanks for all the input.
1 night in bangkok. part 2.
on my way back i had another night in bangkok. this time i'll have it planned perfectly, i thought. i had a copy of thommo's pocket guide, [url]http://www.whorist.com/bangkok-guide-2[/url]; i'd reviewed it and this site. i mean what could go wrong.
the guide is good. i stand by it. well i did, until it fell out of my back pocket some where in don muang airport. serves me right for not following thommo's advice just to print out the portable section and instead trying to stuff 30+ pages in my back pocket. anyway, the plan was nataree, gulliver's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and maybe mango's and end the night with a nana street or liquid disco girl. staying at the central nana hotel on soi 4 off sukumvit road, i figured this was doable. ambitious? nah. and it was planned like a military campaign, so nothing could go wrong. ok, so i had lost my reading glasses as well, but i wouldn't need those.
ahh, but i did need a plug converter as i needed to get at thommo's guide on my out of power laptop, as the nana hotel is all 2 prong plugs. so across to the other side of sukumvit road to the supermarket on soi 5 (very useful place. much cheaper wine than nana hotel. but not cooled). and as gulliver's is just across the road from the supermarket, i'll just stick my head in there.
now i thought gulliver's would be a bit of a meat market, but it came across as a fairly high-end bar full of mixed groups just chilling. not a whole lot of single women around when i was there 9:30pm ish on a tuesday evening, but i was in a hurry. anyway, i keep walking through the place right to the back where the pool tables are and spy a couple cute early 20s looking girls in the latter stages of a pool game. no other guys around, so i hang out and as they finish i approach them. one turns to eat some food at the bar, so i talk to the other:
"so. are you available for short time." straight in. hey i'm on a tight time schedule.
"what do you mean." she says smiling at me.
"huhhhhh, hmmm, uhhhh" i'm sure i wasn't even that coherent. i mean she looked early 20s, so in my mind i was expecting rejection and acceptance if i was very lucky (thommo had prepped me to be ready for either) , not anything else. author not on his game.
"well, which of us would you like" i hadn't thought about that either (geez, who is running this show.)
"uhh, both of you would be great" ok, i was getting my game back on.
"no, we're sisters. you have to pick one" ok, i hadn't caught the family resemblance or seen that coming. slipping again.
"well i pick you then" the other one was well involved in her food and not paying much attention. besides, the one who was talking to me was cuter. they both looked early 20s.
"where is your hotel" i know this one, i know this one!
so off we walk back to soi 4. her english is good. she's in some sort of long-term english program and her and her sister were just out for a night to play pool. with the possibility of hooking up for her, but not the sister. she says she does this every month or so. we get back to nana, still talking. man her english is good. grab a couple beers from room service. carry on talking. what was the plan again?"you should take a shower" she says. now i remember what i'm doing and somehow the realization i'm coming down with a cold / flu or whatever seems to also register.
so we slowly get down to business and mr. johnson is certainly going in more holes than normal. 2 or was that 3. more talking. more sex. and more snippets of conversation.
'i went with you because you were still handsome' phew, i'the passed thommo's test.
'and because you weren't professional like the rest. how are you, what's your name, another question, then short time? ' hey, i win one – i was time pressured and cutting to the chase for a quick acceptance or rejection. but if that comes across as not 'a player' – bonus.
out comes the laptop and google maps and we find her home town in northern thailand and the place i grew up in england (holy feck, you get to see the front door of your house now with street view in google maps – but not in thailand just yet – just the top of the roof of the house)
'my name is *' oh i didn't catch that – crap the beer and this cold are spacing me out. later that evening while mounting her from behind 'you can see my name in the rose tattoo on my right shoulder blade' and i picked today to loose my reading glasses.
and so a great evening and night passed with a lovely girl talking, screwing and looking at stuff on the laptop. it was nothing like the night i had planned – debauchery – but it was so different from my plan and expectations and she really was cute, that it was a great night.
and the moral of the story is. i haven't a clue. oh, yeah: if you're lucky you'll end up with an evening in bangkok beyond expectations or just plain way off base, but in an interesting way: go with the flow, but make sure you have your reading glasses with you. and if you happen to catch yourself mounting a young looking, thin thai girl from behind with a rose tattoo on her right hand shoulder blade and her name in the middle of the tattoo – post her name will ya.
and i have to stay longer in bangkok next time as i owe a few drinks for all the great advice from this board and from thommo if he's around. if i can't pay it forward, i can at least pay for a few beers. now back to normal life, ughhhh. cheers all.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1126090]Serves him right. I am sorry but if a Dude is Stupid enough to send money to his girl and not live here, then he truly deserves what's coming.[/QUOTE]The funny thing is there must be loads of guys on here who sponsor girls but rarely ever hear them chip in and defend the practice. Maybe because they know the rest of us think they are total idiots!
Serioulsy though, I just don't get it. WHY would a guy sponsor a girl when they can see from these posts that the girl will almost always be 'cheating' on them. I have met so many girls that have 'boyfriends' (ha that term cracks me up when guys here or the girls call them that) and screw them over. I have lost count of the many times I've replied to guys sms for a girl because I can type better English faster. Lying to them saying "I'm just in my room watching tv" when in fact they are out with me. I have no shame in that. Sorry, thats just the way it is. If you are an idiopt you will be treated like an idiot.
So what is the upside to 'sponsoring' a girl? If you like her, you can see her anyway when you come over. She won't say no. You will be paying. And if you are worried she will get snapped up by another sponsor don't worry, she will still go with you. We all know this now. And even if you lose touch, fucvk it, there are 1000's of more girls just as nice!
AND NO! SHE IS NOT DIFFERENT! And as I tell the girls, NO HE IS NOT DIFFERENT EITHER! He's a sex tourist and comes for sex! (well apart from you lucky bastards who live here! You just live here for sex!)
Would love to hear the opinion of someone who sponsors a girl though. But would expect they have their shamed head down at the moment.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1126127]You allowed a hooker on your Facebook Page? Wow. As far as I am concerned, I quit mixing up the 2.
If I want a steady fuck with Giks, I turn to non-pros and if I want to do P4P then so be it, I pay to get serviced.
Obviously, being a resident and having deep pockets helps greatly. [/QUOTE]I have made the mistake a couple of times when drunk and given a girl my facebook name after knowing her a while but they almost always either say something embarrasing on there "Hello, tirak, I miss you so much" etc or send me stroppy messages about my ferang female friends on there. A lot of them have little social skills in the real world.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1126354]The funny thing is there must be loads of guys on here who sponsor girls but rarely ever hear them chip in and defend the practice. Maybe because they know the rest of us think they are total idiots!
Would love to hear the opinion of someone who sponsors a girl though. But would expect they have their shamed head down at the moment.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]Ok I fess up. I did this a few years back with a girl in Venezuela. I was well, pretty much out of my mind unhappy at the time and clinging to something that was pleasant / happy. I did come to my senses after a month back in the west and realized it really wasn't going anywhere, so cut off communication and money. I have had long term relationships with girls from other cultures and languages, though local to me. That is still hard. You really can't assume they operate from the same set of assumptions / cultural outlook that you do. Having said that, I actually prefer women from other cultures and languages and plan to continue. But now I make sure that my money, livelihood and residence stays separate. The issue isn't the girls, its you if you are doing this. Why are you really doing it? You might not like the answer when it dawns on you, but hey, you were probably just going through a bad patch. Signed: One shamed head down
[QUOTE=Engjoe;1126358]Ok I fess up. I did this a few years back with a girl in Venezuela. I was well, pretty much out of my mind unhappy at the time and clinging to something that was pleasant / happy. I did come to my senses after a month back in the west and realized it really wasn't going anywhere, so cut off communication and money. I have had long term relationships with girls from other cultures and languages, though local to me. That is still hard. You really can't assume they operate from the same set of assumptions / cultural outlook that you do. Having said that, I actually prefer women from other cultures and languages and plan to continue. But now I make sure that my money, livelihood and residence stays separate. The issue isn't the girls, its you if you are doing this. Why are you really doing it? You might not like the answer when it dawns on you, but hey, you were probably just going through a bad patch. Signed: One shamed head down[/QUOTE]Kudos for coming out in the open with this. We are not here to judge as we all made mistakes. Good thing that you realized that fairly early.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1126149]The well-marked dividing line between hookers and non-pros in Thailand, eh? If you find out where it is, be sure to let us know. I actually trust the hookers more, because at least you know for sure that they're hookers.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's arguably right if you're fresh but having lived here for quite a few years already and mingled with all levels of Society, it is obvious to me who is P4P and who isn't.
Now I agree that in some cases, the P4P girls could prove more trustworthy
[QUOTE=Engjoe;1126348]if you're lucky you'll end up with an evening in Bangkok beyond expectations or just plain way off base, but in an interesting way: go with the flow, but make sure you have your reading glasses with you.[/QUOTE]Very nice Report! Glad you had a great time and Thanks for sharing it.
I always thought that a nice evening with a great gal, multiple sex sessions in the hotel room, food. Was way better than a fuck marathon. But then again, I'm not a fan of the All you can eat buffets.
And. DAMN YOU! I now will stroll Gullivers in Search of that Rose Tatoo. Hehehe
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1126354]The funny thing is there must be loads of guys on here who sponsor girls but rarely ever hear them chip in and defend the practice. Maybe because they know the rest of us think they are total idiots![/QUOTE]I never thought about sponsoring anyone before and have always balked at every sad story that I was given even when I knew it was not a lie. However once I did tell my girlfriend (without her asking) in BKK that I would pay for her to upgrade her room to one with air conditioning. She was a total non-pro, schoolteacher / swim coach. Well I never got around to sending any money. I did help her edit her resume though. She came to my country as a nanny and broke up with me soon after.
The married chick that I was hanging out with the last few days in Pattaya said that she told her husband that she didn't mind if he fucked the bargirls but she didn't want him to have any further contact with them. No phone numbers, no emails. So what does he go and do? Collect phone numbers, emails, AND send money. What the fuck dude? Why was that even necessary? Give us an inch and we cut our own foot off.
A first time newbie from Australia to either of them with four nights to spend.
[QUOTE=Lee7611;1124065]I'm not sure if I'm ripped off. Drinks 1 beer+1 tequila 290, barfine 600, ST 2000, LT 4000, room 300. It was all printed in a laminated paper and mamasan said it cannot be reduced further when I tried to bargain. So I took the ST. When I reached the room upstairs, all the rooms are occupied and another couple was ahead of us and we have to wait 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]Ripped off a bit. I always pay 1500 at Nana, to the extent that I forgot to mention this beforehand once, and the girl was disappointed when I gave her 1500. She still accepted it though. I apologized and said that I should have asked, and gave her 200 more, and she was OK. Normally I just ask "1500 OK?", and normally they nod and off we go. If they balk, I say "1500 can" making it clear that I'll pass if they don't accept, and usually they do.
I've also waited for a ST room, there are quite a few, and sometimes traffic is heavy.
[QUOTE=Kow Bow;1123850]Was having dinner in Chinatown last night and we joked with the waiter quite a bit him taking pics of our table, etc. Later he offered to take us to MP for a 180 baht massage and boom boom after for 1k with Thai girls or another place that had same same but 500 baht for Chinese girls, which had me intrigued. We said no, smelling a possible scam. Anyone know more about this?[/QUOTE]There's one dark street girl I go back for now and then, and I always pay her 700 and 100 for the room. I'm sure she would have accepted 500 too, but for that she'd be pretty rushed. I'd be interested to hear about this MP.
hi johnthescot.
you won't a story from a sponsor john.
i give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because i have my sponsoring girl
in latvia, i lives in sweden, and it's a different, from have her 10h flight in asia.
and of course nobody cheated nobody,
for me it has been like a good hobby, a lot of people spend money on golf and so on.
this summer we desired to let us go different ways, of course we still have good contact,
but no more meetings including sex, she start to understand she getting older.
way we desired to go different ways was that we both think nearly 5 years was inof.
this sponsoring have cost me 60000-70000 €, now al say watt a idiot.
in this money i have included al travel expenses (a lot of flight tickets) , sponsoring in
money and presents for the girl.
first meeting she precisely has get 21 years, and she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me for 2 days, me. 2 weeks after my 50 years birthday, i was stuck with her, totally in love.
but after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,
so much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors.
so what did she get out of this.
i pay her education, first driving license, then 4 years study on university, she have a work beside to, that pays her daily life, she have seen a lot of country's in europe, we have been to usa 2 times we have been to thailand 3 times, and maybe the best for her, she always now that she have somebody to ask if she have economic problem, she never have had a standing.
payment p / month, but of course i send her money when she need.
so what did i get for the money.
i always have had a travelling partner, in business, or in weekend trips.
we have spend abut 5-7 weeks total every year together, and meeting at least ones a month.
she come to me, for weekend meetings, i spend weekends in her flat, she come to airport pick me up and left me.
i have seen her dancing with no underwear with thai girls in pattaya bars, and se her.
get and given, orgasm both to thai, chinese and latvian girls in 3 some, yes she is bi and.
love al abut sex, abut 5000 photos of her us what pictures.
and of course, al our orgasm together.
so now with key in hand, in never change this time against anything, and when i sitting in the rocking chair i going to have some lovely memory's to look back on.
am i going to looking for a new girl in the same arrangement, no i don't, because it have
taking so much strange of me under this year in planning and puzzling, and i start like my wife more and more, yes she never had a clue abut this.
but i still have my business trips, se you in bangkok 5 of mars,
i read the forum and have booked the ll.
jonas
Some more toughts on this topic.
I would not advise sponsoring a bar girl, unless in case of a clear changing of life (I. E. Start studies, open a shop, etc.). I have fucked too many girls with sponsors, with a special mention for 2 girls: one I fucked 2 weeks before she flew to the USA to join her husband, and the other I fucked 2 days before she did the same to Germany. And even if they change their life, hmmm.
I've sponsored a student in Chiang Mai for one and half year. It was more like a GF, but in Thailand it's the same: if you have a girl friend (I. E. A "good" girl) and you have money, you must pay for her expenses and help her familly. I enjoyed similar benefits as described before: a nice, educated girl who was a good companion and had not been fucked by 1000 guys before. At the start it was not so expensive, I. E. Not more than I would have paid for a bar girl. I have stopped because she was starting asking for more money, and also because I could not spend as much time in Thailand as before.
The problem with sponsoring a GF is that the girl expects you to cover her expenses, whatever the time you spend with her. So it's only profitable if you spend enough time in Thailand with her.
Alltogether, if you add side expenses, airplane tickets for her, etc, a girlfriend is usually more expensive than paying bar girls when you need.
[quote=jonas; 1126484]hi johnthescot.
you won't a story from a sponsor john.
i give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because i have my sponsoring girl
in latvia, i lives in sweden, and it's a different, from have her 10h flight in asia.
and of course nobody cheated nobody,
for me it has been like a good hobby, a lot of people spend money on golf and so on.
this summer we desired to let us go different ways, of course we still have good contact,
but no more meetings including sex, she start to understand she getting older.
way we desired to go different ways was that we both think nearly 5 years was inof.
this sponsoring have cost me 60000-70000 €, now al say watt a idiot.
in this money i have included al travel expenses (a lot of flight tickets) , sponsoring in
money and presents for the girl.
first meeting she precisely has get 21 years, and she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me for 2 days, me. 2 weeks after my 50 years birthday, i was stuck with her, totally in love.
but after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,
so much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors.
so what did she get out of this.
i pay her education, first driving license, then 4 years study on university, she have a work beside to, that pays her daily life, she have seen a lot of country's in europe, we have been to usa 2 times we have been to thailand 3 times, and maybe the best for her, she always now that she have somebody to ask if she have economic problem, she never have had a standing.
payment p / month, but of course i send her money when she need.
so what did i get for the money.
i always have had a travelling partner, in business, or in weekend trips.
we have spend abut 5-7 weeks total every year together, and meeting at least ones a month.
she come to me, for weekend meetings, i spend weekends in her flat, she come to airport pick me up and left me.
i have seen her dancing with no underwear with thai girls in pattaya bars, and se her.
get and given, orgasm both to thai, chinese and latvian girls in 3 some, yes she is bi and.
love al abut sex, abut 5000 photos of her us what pictures.
and of course, al our orgasm together.
so now with key in hand, in never change this time against anything, and when i sitting in the rocking chair i going to have some lovely memory's to look back on.
am i going to looking for a new girl in the same arrangement, no i don't, because it have
taking so much strange of me under this year in planning and puzzling, and i start like my wife more and more, yes she never had a clue abut this.
but i still have my business trips, se you in bangkok 5 of mars,
i read the forum and have booked the ll.
jonas[/quote]if you've gone your seperate ways maybe some kind poster could help her out lol, not me you understand, i do enjoy fun with sponsored girls, and i have nothing against baltic girl lol.
[QUOTE=Engjoe;1126358]Ok I fess up. I did this a few years back with a girl in Venezuela. I was well, pretty much out of my mind unhappy at the time and clinging to something that was pleasant / happy. I did come to my senses after a month back in the west and realized it really wasn't going anywhere, so cut off communication and money. I have had long term relationships with girls from other cultures and languages, though local to me. That is still hard. You really can't assume they operate from the same set of assumptions / cultural outlook that you do. Having said that, I actually prefer women from other cultures and languages and plan to continue. But now I make sure that my money, livelihood and residence stays separate. The issue isn't the girls, its you if you are doing this. Why are you really doing it? You might not like the answer when it dawns on you, but hey, you were probably just going through a bad patch. Signed: One shamed head down[/QUOTE]Hey I think I agree with you on that point. The guy doing it needs to ask himself serious questions about why. I'm not immune to their charms either. I will admit that a couple of girls got me pretty hooked and over a period of say 6 months constant communication (and no mention of 'taking care of them' or helping with the sick mother etc) I can say that I thought I was in love with them. Luckily I came to my senses both times. Still keep in touch with them though.
I think I was pretty low after a serious relationship ended and I wanted validation that I could still get a pretty girl. Well turned out I could. We all can over there. It's just rarely for keeps. And for lots of good reasons.
JohnThescot
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1126381]Yeah, that's arguably right if you're fresh but having lived here for quite a few years already and mingled with all levels of Society, it is obvious to me who is P4P and who isn't.
Now I agree that in some cases, the P4P girls could prove more trustworthy[/QUOTE]Sounds like a minefield either way Nic. But then it's not that easy back here in the UK either with non P4P girls either. Who hasn't been cheated on here never mind Thailand.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1126398]I never thought about sponsoring anyone before and have always balked at every sad story that I was given even when I knew it was not a lie. However once I did tell my girlfriend (without her asking) in BKK that I would pay for her to upgrade her room to one with air conditioning. She was a total non-pro, schoolteacher / swim coach. Well I never got around to sending any money. I did help her edit her resume though. She came to my country as a nanny and broke up with me soon after.
The married chick that I was hanging out with the last few days in Pattaya said that she told her husband that she didn't mind if he fucked the bargirls but she didn't want him to have any further contact with them. No phone numbers, no emails. So what does he go and do? Collect phone numbers, emails, AND send money. What the fuck dude? Why was that even necessary? Give us an inch and we cut our own foot off. [/QUOTE]Yeah we comment about how bad the girls can be to us but how many of lie and cheat to the girls? I personaly don't blame them for how they treat guys. They get it no better from us.
Sad but interetesting (sorry) that she broke up with you when she came here. I wonder how often that happens. Girl gets a visa then then thinks she can do better than the ferang she's got (not that I'm suggesting thats what happened with you) and lets be honest, what girl there couldn't do better than us? Face it thats why we go there. To get younger, more beautiful girls than our looks and / or age would normally allow. It's a tightrope!
JohnTheScot
[quote=jonas; 1126480]hi johnthescot.
you won't a story from a sponsor john.
i give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because i have my sponsoring girl
in latvia, i lives in sweden, and it's a different, from have her 10h flight in asia.
and of course nobody cheated nobody,
for me it has been like a good hobby, a lot of people spend money on golf and so on.
this summer we desired to let us go different ways, of course we still have good contact,
but no more meetings including sex, she start to understand she getting older.
way we desired to go different ways was that we both think nearly 5 years was inof.
this sponsoring have cost me 60000-70000 €, now al say watt a idiot.
in this money i have included al travel expenses (a lot of flight tickets) , sponsoring in
money and presents for the girl.
first meeting she precisely has get 21 years, and she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me for 2 days, me. 2 weeks after my 50 years birthday, i was stuck with her, totally in love.
but after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,
so much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors.
so what did she get out of this.
i pay her education, first driving license, then 4 years study on university, she have a work beside to, that pays her daily life, she have seen a lot of country's in europe, we have been to usa 2 times we have been to thailand 3 times, and maybe the best for her, she always now that she have somebody to ask if she have economic problem, she never have had a standing.
payment p / month, but of course i send her money when she need.
so what did i get for the money.
i always have had a travelling partner, in business, or in weekend trips.
we have spend abut 5-7 weeks total every year together, and meeting at least ones a month.
she come to me, for weekend meetings, i spend weekends in her flat, she come to airport pick me up and left me.
i have seen her dancing with no underwear with thai girls in pattaya bars, and se her.
get and given, orgasm both to thai, chinese and latvian girls in 3 some, yes she is bi and.
love al abut sex, abut 5000 photos of her us what pictures.
and of course, al our orgasm together.
so now with key in hand, in never change this time against anything, and when i sitting in the rocking chair i going to have some lovely memory's to look back on.
am i going to looking for a new girl in the same arrangement, no i don't, because it have
taking so much strange of me under this year in planning and puzzling, and i start like my wife more and more, yes she never had a clue abut this.
but i still have my business trips, se you in bangkok 5 of mars,
i read the forum and have booked the ll.
jonas[/quote]jonas, thanks for sharing. i totally get what you are sayin g and i think you and her had the right attitude. you allowed each other freedom and both knew what you were getting out of it. that sounds great.
that's a bit different from the guys who think the thai girl is a 'real girlfriend' or his property. he is jealous, doesn't want her working in a bar or going out with her friends. he is 1000's of miles away and she is a young girl with friends in party town! what else is she going to do but go out to the discos and of course she will meet guys who want her too. she might even meet me, or god forbid nicfrenchy! i just think a lot of these guys think their money can buy them young, beauty and loyalty. it can, but only for a night or a few days.
johnthescot
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1126519]Some more toughts on this topic.
I would not advise sponsoring a bar girl, unless in case of a clear changing of life (I. E. Start studies, open a shop, etc.). I have fucked too many girls with sponsors, with a special mention for 2 girls: one I fucked 2 weeks before she flew to the USA to join her husband, and the other I fucked 2 days before she did the same to Germany. And even if they change their life, hmmm.
I've sponsored a student in Chiang Mai for one and half year. It was more like a GF, but in Thailand it's the same: if you have a girl friend (I. E. A "good" girl) and you have money, you must pay for her expenses and help her familly. I enjoyed similar benefits as described before: a nice, educated girl who was a good companion and had not been fucked by 1000 guys before. At the start it was not so expensive, I. E. Not more than I would have paid for a bar girl. I have stopped because she was starting asking for more money, and also because I could not spend as much time in Thailand as before.
The problem with sponsoring a GF is that the girl expects you to cover her expenses, whatever the time you spend with her. So it's only profitable if you spend enough time in Thailand with her.
Alltogether, if you add side expenses, airplane tickets for her, etc, a girlfriend is usually more expensive than paying bar girls when you need. [/QUOTE]ElFrances, I agree. Withe the same reservations. If they are willing to start a new life etc BUT I've had the same experience as you.
I became really good friends with a stunning girl (and I don't use that lightly) who used to work in Superbaby. The one I mentioned in a previous post that I was a bit in love with. We used to chat every night on MSN after she finished work (or after she finished with her ST Jap). Never discussed money. She earned a lot and was happy enough doing what she was doing. I realised that if I didn't sponsor her she would keep doing it until she was either too old or someone else did. I decided against it. And the someone else did. She stopped working and anytime I went over we met up and surprise surprise we used to sleep together. She would always make sure we were back in the room when it was time to make his regular evening call and she would go out onto the balcony or corridor to chat to him. He was a pretty decent looking early / mid 30 something who was really nice to her and sent his money every month and chatted every night. She went over to germany to see him for a month and they decided then that they would get married the next year and she would live there. Great, what a happy story. BUT I know that everytime one of her old regulars would come over she would see them while they were there. Just the regulars.
Last time I saw her was September just before her bf was coming over for a holiday and taking her back to get married. Several times on that trip we'd go to cinema etc and then end up in bed again. And I know that she did the same with a couple of other guys who came over around the same time that she had known for a while.
The thing that scared me about it the most was that although she talked about him with genuine affection she used to talk about her plans for the future, work in germany for a few years, earn some money, come back to Pattaya to start her own business. So what about the bf / husband I asked. Oh he can come and visit anytime. It really was that simple to her. It was a business plan pure and simple. And she was / is one of the loveliest / kindest girls I've met in Thailand in my 35+ trips over the years.
I've met so many girls over the years that are happy to tell me about their sponsors / BFs / tiraks while I'm buying them drinks and agreeing on a price for the night or after sex pillow chat.
Not saying there aren't good ones out there but my god there is less odds finding her than winning the lottery!
JohnTheScot
Anyway lets get back to the topics that matter, ATM fees and how much for ST / LT? .
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1126576]ElFrances, I agree. Withe the same reservations. If they are willing to start a new life etc BUT I've had the same experience as you.
I became really good friends with a stunning girl (and I don't use that lightly) who used to work in Superbaby. The one I mentioned in a previous post that I was a bit in love with. We used to chat every night on MSN after she finished work (or after she finished with her ST Jap). Never discussed money. She earned a lot and was happy enough doing what she was doing. I realised that if I didn't sponsor her she would keep doing it until she was either too old or someone else did. I decided against it. And the someone else did. She stopped working and anytime I went over we met up and surprise surprise we used to sleep together. She would always make sure we were back in the room when it was time to make his regular evening call and she would go out onto the balcony or corridor to chat to him. He was a pretty decent looking early / mid 30 something who was really nice to her and sent his money every month and chatted every night. She went over to germany to see him for a month and they decided then that they would get married the next year and she would live there. Great, what a happy story. BUT I know that everytime one of her old regulars would come over she would see them while they were there. Just the regulars.
Last time I saw her was September just before her bf was coming over for a holiday and taking her back to get married. Several times on that trip we'd go to cinema etc and then end up in bed again. And I know that she did the same with a couple of other guys who came over around the same time that she had known for a while.
The thing that scared me about it the most was that although she talked about him with genuine affection she used to talk about her plans for the future, work in germany for a few years, earn some money, come back to Pattaya to start her own business. So what about the bf / husband I asked. Oh he can come and visit anytime. It really was that simple to her. It was a business plan pure and simple. And she was / is one of the loveliest / kindest girls I've met in Thailand in my 35+ trips over the years.
I've met so many girls over the years that are happy to tell me about their sponsors / BFs / tiraks while I'm buying them drinks and agreeing on a price for the night or after sex pillow chat.
Not saying there aren't good ones out there but my god there is less odds finding her than winning the lottery!
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]That sounds like a good business plan for her, maybe she'll work In a fkk club, earn plenty of €uros then return to Pattaya with a heavy bag. And the poor husband, won't know what happened.
[QUOTE=Jonas;1126484]I give you mine, maybe it's not rely what you look for, because I have my sponsoring girl[/QUOTE]I hope I live to emulate you.
[QUOTE=Jonas; 1126484]But after abut 1 year we have a agreement, she can fuck around with anybody in her own age,
So much she won't, as long she always stands up for me, and keep away for other sponsors. [/QUOTE]Why were you OK with her fucking young guys but not with having other sponsors?
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1126572]He is 1000's of miles away and she is a young girl with friends in party town! What else is she going to do but go out to the discos and of course she will meet guys who want her too. She might even meet me, or god forbid NicFrenchy! I just think a lot of these guys think their money can buy them young, beauty and loyalty. It can, but only for a night or a few days.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. But think about it this way: I am doing all these guys a favor! I keep their girl Lubricated and prevent their Pussies from Closing up and drying out. .
[QUOTE=Evianist;1126674]Why were you OK with her fucking young guys but not with having other sponsors?[/QUOTE]First I must say that knowing a girl and be with her so much time I have been with this one.
Make us very close friends, we are the persons that know most abut each other al secrets.
We have share.
And your question abut way it was ok to playing with people in her own age.
First I think if she has one 'sponsor', she is my lover, not a girl that take money for pussy.
If you have more then one it's different in my eye.
The second thing is that I didn't be the one that prevent her to get in to a ordinary relation.
Jonas
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1126635]That sounds like a good business plan for her, maybe she'll work In a fkk club, earn plenty of €uros then return to Pattaya with a heavy bag. And the poor husband, won't know what happened.[/QUOTE]Well she did joke about working in a German Massage place but I don't think it was fully a joke.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1126707]Absolutely. But think about it this way: I am doing all these guys a favor! I keep their girl Lubricated and prevent their Pussies from Closing up and drying out. .[/QUOTE]Totally selfless. I salute you!
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1126707]Absolutely. But think about it this way: I am doing all these guys a favor! I keep their girl Lubricated and prevent their Pussies from Closing up and drying out. .[/QUOTE]That's what I call a public service, he should sponsor you too LOL,
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1126732]Well she did joke about working in a German Massage place but I don't think it was fully a joke.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]You know what they say, 'you can take the girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the girl.
You do meet a few Thai ladies In the German club, most have married local guys or have divorced.
Are a lot of TGs willing to have sex without a condom? Do they charge more or ask for a big tip if this is the service rendered? What about non P4P TG's, do they usually do it uncovered with Thai men and farang? When they do it BB is it because they want a child to take care of them when old, because it feels better, or just because they were in the moment of intimacy? Are female condoms available for sale in Bangkok?
I am staying 1 niight in BKK at the Westin grand, I intend to travel to Pattaya in the afternoon the following day. I will be to late for the Dynasty bus in the morning, I have used this before. I could go back to the airport and use Bell travel or go via Ekimai bus station, I want to avoid the bus station after reading the reports on searching farangs for drugs (vitamin V). I will probably pay 1000baht for a taxi, however does anyone know of any other options?
Will be in Akane up to about 14:00 then will leave for Pats.
May the force be with you.
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1126927]I am staying 1 niight in BKK at the Westin grand, I intend to travel to Pattaya in the afternoon the following day. I will be to late for the Dynasty bus in the morning, I have used this before. I could go back to the airport and use Bell travel or go via Ekimai bus station, I want to avoid the bus station after reading the reports on searching farangs for drugs (vitamin V). I will probably pay 1000baht for a taxi, however does anyone know of any other options?
Will be in Akane up to about 14:00 then will leave for Pats.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]Come on man, you stay at WGS and will go to the trouble of going to Ekkamai Station? To take a Bus?
I hate public Transportation as you never know what you're going to run into: Smelly people, loud assholes on their cellphones.
I prefer to pay 1, 000 or even 2, 000 to be comfortable and not have to worry about any other people around me.
Just call your reception desk and tell them you want to go to Pattaya and your budget is 1, 000 thb. They'll hook you up with a transportation and even might pick you up at the hotel.
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker;1126927]I am staying 1 niight in BKK at the Westin grand, I intend to travel to Pattaya in the afternoon the following day. I will be to late for the Dynasty bus in the morning, I have used this before. I could go back to the airport and use Bell travel or go via Ekimai bus station, I want to avoid the bus station after reading the reports on searching farangs for drugs (vitamin V). I will probably pay 1000baht for a taxi, however does anyone know of any other options? Will be in Akane up to about 14:00 then will leave for Pats. May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind waiting a little bit, Bell travel will pick you up at your hotel and take you to their Bangkok bus depot. 4:30 pick up for their late bus. 350 baht.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1126921]Are a lot of TGs willing to have sex without a condom?[/QUOTE]Not a lot but some.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1126921]What about non P4P TG's, do they usually do it uncovered with Thai men and farang?[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1126921]When they do it BB is it because they want a child to take care of them when old, because it feels better, or just because they were in the moment of intimacy?[/QUOTE]Feels better because it's the natural way to have sex.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1126921]Are a lot of TGs willing to have sex without a condom? Do they charge more or ask for a big tip if this is the service rendered?[/QUOTE]Some will, but most will not. The smart, successful ones recognize that unsafe sex is full of risk. Many P4P ladies have very low levels of formal education (6 years normally) , and are not very smart when it comes to health issues.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1126921]What about non P4P TG's, do they usually do it uncovered with Thai men and farang? When they do it BB is it because they want a child to take care of them when old, because it feels better, or just because they were in the moment of intimacy?[/QUOTE]If they are smart and / or educated they normally use condoms. STDs are rife in Thailand. If they think they are "in a relationship" they might bareback to show their devotion to the relationship, but tell their partner to use condoms for any other sexual activity away from the relationship. Most Thai women have their obligatory babies back in the village with young Somchai.
Sure BB sex feels better, but in reality mongers who do not use condoms are like loaded guns lying on the street. There's a good chance someone will get hurt or die.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1127265]Sure BB sex feels better, but in reality mongers who do not use condoms are like loaded guns lying on the street. There's a good chance someone will get hurt or die.[/QUOTE]I may understand that girls who lack education (both formal and family) may be unaware of the risks. But mongers? Most of the even, let's say, not so sophisticated mongers from Europe and other 'Western' entities should definitely be aware of the risks involved because the sexual health awareness is very high even among the lowest social classes in Europe, America and elsewhere. The only option to have BB is when you have the girl checked for hiv and other stds in a medical institution. Otherwise it's just plain crazy!
And how the hell such people are not worried about that? Once I had a little 'accident' as my condom somehow slipped and it was inside while bb for a very short while. I was freaking out and panicking for the upcoming few months and associating all kinds of 'symptoms' (such as cold, headache, tiredness. I. E. Something I have quite often anyway) to hiv or hell knows what. It may turn into real hell. And even going to have yourself checked after such experience may become a total nightmare. I remember when I was out to collect my test results I felt like I was about to have a heart attack or kill myelf before I would be able to see it. How is it possible that some people just don't give a damn about it and take it as nothing important or nothing dangerous? I'm just trying to understand but I guess it's beyond my comprehension.
Even after planning to adjust to their ridicolous rates (2000 Baht ST) which seem to be the norm for the stunners on the left hand side of the bar as you enter, most refused me by blatantly ignoring or turning their backs on me this week after I made contact with them. One even shooed me away. A few years ago it was easier to get one of the girls on the left and if they did not want to go they would either jack up the price or give a bullshit excuse like they were waiting for someone. The girls on the right hand side of the bar as always were desperate for customers and tried to get my attention but they were no different to the girls on the street going for 500 Baht ST.
A funny encounter: a real stunner from Chiang Mai who did exchange looks with me a couple times when I was having my drink did not agree with my offer of 1500 or 2000 ST, but then I offered 2500 ST, which she agreed to. We held hands and as we head outside the Thermae and flag a taxi she then suddenly changes her mind and goes back to the Thermae without giving any reason why and then ignoring me when I comfronted her again downstairs. What's going on?
Yes, I pay and weigh almost the same as a Japanese (60 kilos) , finish quickly (5 minutes) , do not have a particularly large dick and am only 22. Why do they refuse me? My theory is that they want to save face in front of other Japanese mongers who may be observing by not going with anyone who is not Japanese?
[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1127307]Yes, I pay [and weigh almost the] same as a Japanese (60 kilos) , finish quickly (5 minutes) , do not have a particularly large dick[/QUOTE]Interesting but certainly they won't these facts just by looking at you so maybe you should share it with them when negotiating or try patronizing the many other available places in town where you and your money will be persona grata.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1127307]most refused me by blatantly ignoring or turning their backs on me this week after I made contact with them. One even shooed me away.[/QUOTE]Not wise to force yourself on providers who don't want your business because even if you do eventually get them in bed you'll probably end up with a lousy session but since you finish in five minutes it may be worthwhile to you but I suspect not.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1127286]I may understand that girls who lack education (both formal and family) may be unaware of the risks. But mongers?[/QUOTE]There is a section for discussing this topic, and this ain't it.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1127007]I prefer to pay...2, 000.[/QUOTE]Hell, I'd drive you down there for 1,900; you get the tolls, though.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1127307]Even after planning to adjust to their ridicolous rates (2000 Baht ST) which seem to be the norm for the stunners on the left hand side of the bar as you enter, most refused me by blatantly ignoring or turning their backs on me this week after I made contact with them. One even shooed me away. A few years ago it was easier to get one of the girls on the left and if they did not want to go they would either jack up the price or give a bullshit excuse like they were waiting for someone. The girls on the right hand side of the bar as always were desperate for customers and tried to get my attention but they were no different to the girls on the street going for 500 Baht ST.
A funny encounter: a real stunner from Chiang Mai who did exchange looks with me a couple times when I was having my drink did not agree with my offer of 1500 or 2000 ST, but then I offered 2500 ST, which she agreed to. We held hands and as we head outside the Thermae and flag a taxi she then suddenly changes her mind and goes back to the Thermae without giving any reason why and then ignoring me when I comfronted her again downstairs. What's going on?
Yes, I pay and weigh almost the same as a Japanese (60 kilos) , finish quickly (5 minutes) , do not have a particularly large dick and am only 22. Why do they refuse me? My theory is that they want to save face in front of other Japanese mongers who may be observing by not going with anyone who is not Japanese? [/QUOTE]E. M.
One has to commend you for your honesty! Finally after nearly 10 years on this board a person has enough balls to admit " do not have a particularly large dick, only 22, finish quickly! And your only 22 years of age! You have a bright future as a monger and person for your honesty since many on this board of all ages still carry views in the dark ages when it comes to race.
LBM
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1127095]If you don't mind waiting a little bit, Bell travel will pick you up at your hotel and take you to their Bangkok bus depot. 4:30 pick up for their late bus. 350 baht.[/QUOTE]This is as funny as the ATM charge, come on guys, we spend £1000's on a trip and then try to save a few baht on a bus. Crazy!
Oh you should read the forum and finf out the best happy hour deals too. You guys should all hang out together. .
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1127474]This is as funny as the ATM charge, come on guys, we spend £1000's on a trip and then try to save a few baht on a bus. Crazy! Oh you should read the forum and finf out the best happy hour deals too. You guys should all hang out together. .JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]A taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya costs between 1000 & 1500 (depending on the driver and tollway fees). It takes about 2/+ hrs, depending on the driver and traffic.
The Bell Travel combo hotel van / bus / van takes about 2. 5 to 3 hours. If you're not in a hurry the latter option could save you enough in Pattaya for a cheap room, and / or a shag at the Cocomut Bar. Might be the session of your lifetime.
For those of us who live here, (and don't make the big baht like NicF) , it often pays to watch our baht as we can play 365 days a year. Personally, I have taken both options depending on what my immediate plans are. I learned about Bell Travel on this board.
I appreciate the "useful advice" I find on this board. Especially if I use it.
BTW, beers are 2 for 1 at the Liquid Lounge on Soi Buakhao in Pattaya until 7pm.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1127474]This is as funny as the ATM charge, come on guys, we spend £1000's on a trip and then try to save a few baht on a bus. Crazy!
Oh you should read the forum and finf out the best happy hour deals too. You guys should all hang out together. .
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]I think what's really funny is that we have a SCOT telling us to throw our money around!
I'm not bothered by the people on the bus and I can't see where it even saves a whole lot of time to take a taxi to Pattaya. So, I'd prefer to save that 1, 000 baht for other rides. But then I too live here. Sexpat, not sex tourist.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1127474]This is as funny as the ATM charge, come on guys, we spend £1000's on a trip and then try to save a few baht on a bus. Crazy!
Oh you should read the forum and finf out the best happy hour deals too. You guys should all hang out together. [/QUOTE]Might not be an issue for two week millionaires, but I live in Thailand, so yes, I'd rather not pay 150 baht every time I go to an ATM, which might be 10x a month. Or take a taxi every time I make a 2 hour trip.
If you're that proud of being loose with your wallet, I'd be happy to send you my paypal account so you can loosen it up some more.
Looking for some advice from a few Bangkok experts:
I've done the gogo bars, massage places, freelance hangouts and online dating sites. Had many good times, but going to the same places over and over can take the thrill away.
Is there anything new I can try? Local thai places, different areas, etc. Or the same regular places, but some ideas on how to spice it up a bit. Would like to have some new experiences.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1127286]I may understand that girls who lack education (both formal and family) may be unaware of the risks. But mongers? Most of the even, let's say, not so sophisticated mongers from Europe and other 'Western' entities should definitely be aware of the risks involved because the sexual health awareness is very high even among the lowest social classes in Europe, America and elsewhere. The only option to have BB is when you have the girl checked for hiv and other stds in a medical institution. Otherwise it's just plain crazy!
And how the hell such people are not worried about that? Once I had a little 'accident' as my condom somehow slipped and it was inside while bb for a very short while. I was freaking out and panicking for the upcoming few months and associating all kinds of 'symptoms' (such as cold, headache, tiredness. I. E. Something I have quite often anyway) to hiv or hell knows what. It may turn into real hell. And even going to have yourself checked after such experience may become a total nightmare. I remember when I was out to collect my test results I felt like I was about to have a heart attack or kill myelf before I would be able to see it. How is it possible that some people just don't give a damn about it and take it as nothing important or nothing dangerous? I'm just trying to understand but I guess it's beyond my comprehension. [/QUOTE]This is YOUR experience, and we thank you for sharing it.
I also had a similar incident many years back, actually in an MP in BKK. Like you, got myself tested, and that was it.
Not everyone needs to be paranoid as you were.
The only big threat is AIDS. And scientific evidence show that the chances of infection from a woman to a man is far less than 1% in normal circumstances, and much less in case of a broken condom incident. The risk of infection is linked to the degree of friction which may eventulally lead to direct contact between blood vessels. This actually does not really happen if you wear a condom, even if it broke. So no need to freak out for 3 months, you are taking far more risks of being killed driving your car on the motorway to the airport.
Again, not to say that BB is not dangerous, it is, and no argument of course with the need to go in covered. But no ned to overstress the consequences of an incident like this.
[quote=evianist; 1127490]looking for some advice from a few bangkok experts:
i've done the gogo bars, massage places, freelance hangouts and online dating sites. had many good times, but going to the same places over and over can take the thrill away.
is there anything new i can try? local thai places, different areas, etc. or the same regular places, but some ideas on how to spice it up a bit. would like to have some new experiences. [/quote]just a few things from the top of my head (prostitutes level of course) :
- threesome.
- foursome.
- a light bdsm.
- blowjob bar (in the open and on the couch for all to see) (not the boring curtains of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url])
- eden club (any sick shit you can think of, tell them and they; ll find a lady for you)
- nuru nuru@colonze2.
just a few (on the non-prostitute level) :
- threesome in a mp (with a lesbian provider)
- threesome at your condo. bring a girl from mango and "fill her in" on that she has to seduce your regular girl.
- bring her to the cinema and do kinky stuff.
- public place sex.
to give you an example, the lady that gave me a hj before in the movie theatre. i took her to this 5 star hotel bar, then we took off in the toilet and she gave me a bbbjcim+swallow. she was too scared about having sex because of the noise but i am sure next time she will agree.
i told her next time i want to do it in an even more public place. she smiled and i think she likes the excitement (well, until she backs-out like she did last night). still got a bbbj though.
thai girls are very playful and love new things so if you have imagination.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1127490]Looking for some advice from a few Bangkok experts:
I've done the gogo bars, massage places, freelance hangouts and online dating sites. Had many good times, but going to the same places over and over can take the thrill away.
Is there anything new I can try? Local thai places, different areas, etc. Or the same regular places, but some ideas on how to spice it up a bit. Would like to have some new experiences. [/QUOTE]Evianist,
I do not claim to be an expert but how about 'civilians' from the streets, shops, hotels, sky train and restaurants? May take a little time but, in my experience can bea lot of fun (when mixed with a little P4P.)
Also try the small ads like Craigslists. I have had success.
If I start a couple of weeks before my trip I think that EVERY TRIP I have managed to find a 'freebee' for the price of a meal!
Some of them have been 'girl next door' types and some have been 'absolute stunners! '
Lets face it; the civilian locals are sometimes looking for a bit of 'off the record fun' that they can not, or do not want to, do in their own community.
Also, the anticipation of what may be on offer on the "date" can be a big turn on!
One Chinese Thai girl told me that within her own community she HAS to be a good girl but, SOMETIMES she "does not want to be good!!"
Many local "normal good" girls have no experience with Farrang's and would like to try if it could be done secretly.
I have one 'civilian' coming to meet me in my hotel in a few days time and I KNOW, from our previous emails and phone conversations that I am definitely going to have fun and so is she.
OK, perhaps everyone does not want to invest the time but IT HAS WORKED FOR ME!
Give it a try.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666;1127505]If I start a couple of weeks before my trip I think that EVERY TRIP I have managed to find a 'freebee' for the price of a meal![/QUOTE]You're a tourist! And you can do that. So imagine what us Locals have to deal with. So much pussy available.
Hotman666, Great post and good to see you are successful. I am also very successful with Thai girls but the thing is, when the date comes, you can't be too shy as these girls like their man to be in charge so if you want something kinky after desert, just hint strongly. And they'll get the message. I'd say you'll have a 50% success rate.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1127505]I do not claim to be an expert but how about 'civilians' from the streets, shops, hotels, sky train and restaurants? May take a little time but, in my experience can bea lot of fun (when mixed with a little P4P.)
If I start a couple of weeks before my trip I think that EVERY TRIP I have managed to find a 'freebee' for the price of a meal!
Lets face it; the civilian locals are sometimes looking for a bit of 'off the record fun' that they can not, or do not want to, do in their own community.
Also, the anticipation of what may be on offer on the "date" can be a big turn on!
Many local "normal good" girls have no experience with Farrang's and would like to try if it could be done secretly. [/quote]
I've mostly gotten civilians from internet dating sites. Generally I've found 50% will have sex the 1st night. 35% after 2 or 3 dates, and the other 15% will refuse unless I agree to be her boyfriend first.
Going for random girls seen around the city might be a good challenge. See plenty of cute girls around, many who seem like they're curious about farangs, especially out of the tourist ghettos.
I've been a thai girl's first farang, but would like to do more of that.
[quote]Threesome. Foursome.[/quote]
Would like to have 3somes / 4somes with some genuine bi girls, rather than girls who don't touch each other, or massage parlor actors. Will add this to the list. Maybe I can meet a nice Tom and Dee couple.
[quote]Blowjob Bar (in the open and on the couch for all to see)[/quote]
Don't think I could stay hard if some creepy old guys were gawking at me.
[quote]Bring her to the Cinema and do kinky stuff.[/quote]
Did that kind of stuff with my high school girlfriend, but might be worth a try.
Thanks guys for the info, I have booked the Bell travel bus to pick me up at my hotel. The 650 baht I have saved in not taking a taxi will go towards my first visit to lollitas 50 baht more and it's a blow job.
May the force be with you.
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1127494]This is YOUR experience, and we thank you for sharing it.
I also had a similar incident many years back, actually in an MP in BKK. Like you, got myself tested, and that was it.
Not everyone needs to be paranoid as you were.
The only big threat is AIDS. And scientific evidence show that the chances of infection from a woman to a man is far less than 1% in normal circumstances, and much less in case of a broken condom incident. The risk of infection is linked to the degree of friction which may eventulally lead to direct contact between blood vessels. This actually does not really happen if you wear a condom, even if it broke. So no need to freak out for 3 months, you are taking far more risks of being killed driving your car on the motorway to the airport.
Again, not to say that BB is not dangerous, it is, and no argument of course with the need to go in covered. But no ned to overstress the consequences of an incident like this. [/QUOTE]I have heard and read the information you provided before but I always wonder about the infection chances from a women to man? I wonder how the women got it which cause us to take that 1% chance?
Food for thought? LBM
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1127520]You're a tourist! And you can do that. So imagine what us Locals have to deal with. So much pussy available.
Hotman666, Great post and good to see you are successful. I am also very successful with Thai girls but the thing is, when the date comes, you can't be too shy as these girls like their man to be in charge so if you want something kinky after desert, just hint strongly. And they'll get the message. I'd say you'll have a 50% success rate. [/QUOTE]It is just ridiculous. I can barely get to the P4P girls for all of the non-pro girls. And as soon as I am able to check some off the list more keep getting added. And they actually get mad when their day off comes and I can't accommodate them for some reason. One pharmacist keeps trying to go for drinks with me every night at 2 a.m. when she gets off work. Of course by that time I am up in a disco trying to score some P4P. It's a good thing that most of my non-pro chicks think I am still in Chiang Mai, so they are harassing me less.
The Bell Bus from BKK to Pattaya is a great deal, however, from Bangkok, bear in mind the minibus will pick you up along with up to 6 others, then drop you at the bus station where you transfer to the actual bus and more than likely will stop at the airport and pick up more passengers.
I did it once, never again. Very uncomfortable long trip.
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1127530]Thanks guys for the info, I have booked the Bell travel bus to pick me up at my hotel. The 650 baht I have saved in not taking a taxi will go towards my first visit to lollitas 50 baht more and it's a blow job.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1127520]you can't be too shy as these girls like their man to be in charge so if you want something kinky after desert, just hint strongly. And they'll get the message. I'd say you'll have a 50% success rate.[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you so on Craigslist I tend to start my hints BEFORE the date and I would say that although I may blow a few out by coming on too strong that my sucsess rate with the ones that I DO meet is probably over 90 percent ON THE FIRST DATE!
Not SO bad for a guy who will not see 60 again as ALL the girls are MUCH, MUCH younger than me!
Remember, what's the difference in cost between a good Thai meal for one and a nice meal for two? An extra bowl of rice and a couple of drinks! Not a bad return on investment for a little fun!
Hotman.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1127462]" do not have a particularly large dick, only 22, finish quickly![/QUOTE]After reading about the Japanese "3 4s. 4 inches. 4 minutes. 4000B" I was thinking of starting the "3 2s. 2 inches. 2 minutes. 2000B" but I figured I'd get hassled about paying too much.
[QUOTE=Stevebny;1127777]After reading about the Japanese "3 4s. 4 inches. 4 minutes. 4000B" I was thinking of starting the "3 2s. 2 inches. 2 minutes. 2000B" but I figured I'd get hassled about paying too much.[/QUOTE]Excellent One.
However, on a more serious note, the Short-dicks (Japanese) are starting to Take over many places: Thermae. Or for example many shops now force people to pay upfront for everything. When I asked a girl why they did that, she said :
"Japan man shy to ask for the extra massage"
So the same way there are Jappo Karaoke Bars, can't wait to have Massage or Bars forbidden to the Japs.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666;1127678]I fully agree with you so on Craigslist I tend to start my hints BEFORE the date and I would say that although I may blow a few out by coming on too strong that my sucsess rate with the ones that I DO meet is probably over 90 percent ON THE FIRST DATE![/QUOTE]Yeah, I have these Levels too when shopping online. I use mostly Camfrog or Tagged and after a few MSN Chats I ask for Cam talk and it usually gets Kinky before we even meet. Many ladies are very turned on by this and some also want to just keep the sexy cam chats and not meet.
For other girls (Shops, BTS, Street, Offices.) that is a very different technique altogether. Usually BB Messenger and Facebook are the most common during the first pickup meeting.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1127487]I think what's really funny is that we have a SCOT telling us to throw our money around!
I'm not bothered by the people on the bus and I can't see where it even saves a whole lot of time to take a taxi to Pattaya. So, I'd prefer to save that 1, 000 baht for other rides. But then I too live here. Sexpat, not sex tourist. [/QUOTE]Haha good point!
Yeah I've done the bus too. It's ok. Just trying to provoke chat rather than the atm and how much should I pay etc.
JohnTheTightScot
[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1127307]Even after planning to adjust to their ridicolous rates (2000 Baht ST) which seem to be the norm for the stunners on the left hand side of the bar as you enter, most refused me by blatantly ignoring or turning their backs on me this week after I made contact with them. One even shooed me away. A few years ago it was easier to get one of the girls on the left and if they did not want to go they would either jack up the price or give a bullshit excuse like they were waiting for someone. The girls on the right hand side of the bar as always were desperate for customers and tried to get my attention but they were no different to the girls on the street going for 500 Baht ST.
A funny encounter: a real stunner from Chiang Mai who did exchange looks with me a couple times when I was having my drink did not agree with my offer of 1500 or 2000 ST, but then I offered 2500 ST, which she agreed to. We held hands and as we head outside the Thermae and flag a taxi she then suddenly changes her mind and goes back to the Thermae without giving any reason why and then ignoring me when I comfronted her again downstairs. What's going on?
Yes, I pay and weigh almost the same as a Japanese (60 kilos) , finish quickly (5 minutes) , do not have a particularly large dick and am only 22. Why do they refuse me? My theory is that they want to save face in front of other Japanese mongers who may be observing by not going with anyone who is not Japanese? [/QUOTE]Is it really that bad in there now? I'd love to go in because of nostalgia. It was a bar I was in a few times on my first ever couple of trips many years ago. Great memories.
Surely being a handsum guy, I'd be ok? .
Funny thing about that bar for me. I met a 2 year girlfriend there. Nope not a Thai. She was Finnish and was working for Nokia in Bangkok. She was such a stunner in a room of Thai stunners. We walked past each other and both looked back. Bumped into her on way to toilet and then spent 2 weeks together. When she moved back to Helsinki a month later we got together properly. She even moved to UK for me. I fucked that one up as well. Oh well, thats why I'm a sex tourist now I guess! .
JohnTheStupidTwatScot
[QUOTE=Evianist;1127521]I've mostly gotten civilians from internet dating sites. Generally I've found 50% will have sex the 1st night. 35% after 2 or 3 dates, and the other 15% will refuse unless I agree to be her boyfriend first.[/QUOTE]Hi Evianist. Do you have indicator signs or questions to identify the 50% as much as possible in advance. Eg if they agree to meet you at your hotel bar?
I'm in the process of narrowing down some TLL girls to meet!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1127805]Yeah, I have these Levels too when shopping online. I use mostly Camfrog or Tagged and after a few MSN Chats I ask for Cam talk and it usually gets Kinky before we even meet. Many ladies are very turned on by this and some also want to just keep the sexy cam chats and not meet.
For other girls (Shops, BTS, Street, Offices.) that is a very different technique altogether. Usually BB Messenger and Facebook are the most common during the first pickup meeting. [/QUOTE]I've had great success that last couple of years on Tagged. Just lots of chat for weeks before I come back, no video stuff. They have been about 95% willing to sleep with me on first or 2nd date. And definitley better looking than than girls I meet in the gogo bars.
I feel like a bit of a shit though as they are mostly looking for Mr Right. Some of them have been 100% keepers if that was what I wanted. Lovely girls.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Rambis Youth; 1127923]Hi Evianist. Do you have indicator signs or questions to identify the 50% as much as possible in advance. Eg if they agree to meet you at your hotel bar?
I'm in the process of narrowing down some TLL girls to meet! [/QUOTE]
I mean obvious stuff really. Being that I live here, when I say 50% the first night I was mostly meeting girls who seemed somewhat wholesome and educated rather than girls who just seemed like they'd be up to screw. I was probably more looking for a nice night with a real person who wasn't expecting a ST / LT fee, and if the sex happened it happened. That's probably the best way to look at it if you want to try meeting real girls.
And be careful because some of them have emotional issues, and some will pull some weird ninja move and before you know it your closet is full of her clothes and she's hinting about marriage.
If you only want sex, just go to a gogo bar or massage parlor.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1127929]I feel like a bit of a shit though as they are mostly looking for Mr Right. Some of them have been 100% keepers if that was what I wanted. Lovely girls.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]I have a technique for this and all goes very well with the ladies. As they know I am not Mr Right from the Start.
But there is something about Asian girls that make them always want to meet you. And once they see you are a good guy, they can allow themselves to have sex. Just feels good.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1127953]I have a technique for this and all goes very well with the ladies. As they know I am not Mr Right from the Start.
But there is something about Asian girls that make them always want to meet you. And once they see you are a good guy, they can allow themselves to have sex. Just feels good. [/QUOTE]Yeah I am amazed at how successful I am with this. I'd get 10% success rate in the UK at best. The really do just love ferangs it seems. Or maybe just me.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1127949]I mean obvious stuff really. Being that I live here, when I say 50% the first night I was mostly meeting girls who seemed somewhat wholesome and educated rather than girls who just seemed like they'd be up to screw. I was probably more looking for a nice night with a real person who wasn't expecting a ST / LT fee, and if the sex happened it happened. That's probably the best way to look at it if you want to try meeting real girls.
And be careful because some of them have emotional issues, and some will pull some weird ninja move and before you know it your closet is full of her clothes and she's hinting about marriage.
If you only want sex, just go to a gogo bar or massage parlor. [/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Don't treat it like a way save on a ST fee. It really isn't worth the effort for that. Just go to a gogo bar if you want sex. I'm lucky in that I work there a lot so it's worth then effort. I wouldn't do it if I was just over there on holiday. They can be so emmotionally tiring!
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Evianist;1127949]If you only want sex, just go to a gogo bar or massage parlor.[/QUOTE]Yeah but that's boring touristy stuff.
I like to do both P4P & non P4P.
As I said, there are ways to make these girls want to fuck you and understand you can't have a relationship.
Don't worry boys, their time is up soon.
Japan is bleeding in debt, their population is dropping fast & the financial strain on the country will further continue due to an aging population and less & less people having kids to pay taxes to pay for the aging population.
Their workforce is declining fast, it's just a matter of time before they will have to get their house in order before they travel abroad to Thailand to shit in other people's home by overpaying.
[QUOTE=Member #3200; 1128057]Don't worry boys, their time is up soon.
Japan is bleeding in debt, their population is dropping fast & the financial strain on the country will further continue due to an aging population and less & less people having kids to pay taxes to pay for the aging population.
Their workforce is declining fast, it's just a matter of time before they will have to get their house in order before they travel abroad to Thailand to shit in other people's home by overpaying. [/QUOTE]But then there'll be some other rich country to replace them. Perhaps Korea or China?
[QUOTE=Member #3200; 1128057]Don't worry boys, their time is up soon.
Japan is bleeding in debt, their population is dropping fast & the financial strain on the country will further continue due to an aging population and less & less people having kids to pay taxes to pay for the aging population.
Their workforce is declining fast, it's just a matter of time before they will have to get their house in order before they travel abroad to Thailand to shit in other people's home by overpaying. [/QUOTE]Substitute Farangland for Japan and everything you said remains true.
[QUOTE=Member #3200; 1128057]Don't worry boys, their time is up soon.
Japan is bleeding in debt, their population is dropping fast & the financial strain on the country will further continue due to an aging population and less & less people having kids to pay taxes to pay for the aging population.
Their workforce is declining fast, it's just a matter of time before they will have to get their house in order before they travel abroad to Thailand to shit in other people's home by overpaying. [/QUOTE]I am always surprised to read those primitive anti japanese raunts.
We have heard this crap since decades. And the "japs" as you so nicely call them, are still around. And if they pay more than YOU can afford, good for them, I would not blame them to lough at your poor purchasing power. Some peo9ple talk and moan, others act and enjoy themselves. Quite a contradiction that people from such a decadent country can still far outweigh people like you coming from. Well I don't know but I have my suspicions.
And BTW, what are you doing in Thailand? Don't you think you are also "shitting" in other people's home? Why don't you stay wherever you come from, and stop judging others doing the same thing as you do?
[QUOTE=Dreams;1128299]We have heard this crap since decades. And the "japs" as you so nicely call them, are still around. And if they pay more than YOU can afford, good for them[/QUOTE]Good for them for overpaying?
Won't be sharing any secret / cheap spots with you!
Since we are on the subject of Japanese, I have to say that they do not hold the same respect towards non-Japanese than we do to them.
My only issue with them is that they are changing P4P in Thailand, and not for the better!
My main issue is that many massage places now have adopted the All inclusive prices only to suit the Japanese, Many Karaoke Clubs accept Japanese Only and Thermae is being Overrum by them. I am not anti-Japanese, but hell, that's a little too much to handle.
Last time I was at Oranges massage, I was looking at the book and a Japanese Bloke came next to me and started to turn the Book's page. I was stunned. I gave him not only a dirty look but also told him "what are you doing?"
He panicked and left. Some people should just use their money to go buy a fucking education, or a clue.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1128317]Since we are on the subject of Japanese, I have to say that they do not hold the same respect towards non-Japanese than we do to them. My only issue with them is that they are changing P4P in Thailand, and not for the better![/QUOTE]Just wait until the day that the growing masses of horny, moneyed Chinese men start to arrive in significant numbers. Will make the Japanese sex tourists look like polite mosquitoes on an elephant's butt.
[quote]Just wait until the day that the growing masses of horny, moneyed Chinese men start to arrive in significant numbers. Will make the Japanese sex tourists look like polite mosquitoes on an elephant's butt.[/quote]Just go to Rachadaphisek. You'll see them.
[quote]My only issue with them is that they are changing P4P in Thailand, and not for the better!
[quote]There's a lot of change in the P4P scene and all for the worse. I was just in Thailand 3 weeks (January) and had probably my worst trip ever. Not just the cost but the attitude.
Of course, some price migration was inevitable, did you expect it to be 500 ST for every streetwalker forever?
Guys, I had seen the glimmers of this three years ago, but it's morphed into a full on plague.
WTF is it with Coyote girls?
I was in a bar on Soi Cowboy (I think Deja Vu) and was presented with the menu. 150 baht regular gal drink. 200 baht mama san and coyote girl drinks. The mamasan told me none of the coyote girls went with customers."None of them?". None.
For the remainder of the trip if the bar was heavy on the Coyote girls I stayed clear.
In 10 years it'll be sex for high rollers and expensive handjobs for the rest of us.
How long you think until the Short-Dicks make it from thermae to the Nana Parking lot?
I think soon enough Gullivers and BG7 will have to have menus in Japanese and a Sushi selection. :)
I arrived late to BKK, took a little rest then off to Baccara I went.
Based on the advice of the Senior Members, I was late since I did not get there till 9:30 and the place was jammed with customers both downstairs and upstairs; 90% Asians.
Lots of girls dancing decent looking with lots of silicon but I did not really see any stunner and was worried that I was late. The next group of dancers arrived and I noticed a fine looking creature with cute face, great proportion, and perfect size tits that had to be natural so I asked the waitress to call her over.
She looks even better up close and the conversation went really well but when I asked about the cost, she politely declined, explaining that she only goes with Asian (Japanese ATM) and wants to go back to the dance floor. I was very disappointed so I called her Mamasan who concurred saying that she never saw her leave with anyone but Japanese.
I watched the dancers but I could not find anyone I like so I called the same girl over again and continued to talk to see why she won't go with and she explained that she is scared and heard some not so good stories about Americans so I tried to be as nice as possible to try to make her feel comfortable. Another song came and once again she excused herself to go dancing and this time I noticed that she was talking to another girl at the dance floor who looked a little like her so I asked the waitress to call the second girl who turned out to be her best friend but not nearly as pretty with very small tits. I was trying to some inside information and asked what will take for me to convince her friend to go with me. She explained that her friend liked me but she is uncomfortable with Americans, scared of the size, and told me a story about an American who took a girl last night and did not pay her (Probably bull shit). My girl was done dancing so I asked her over again and now I am sitting and talking to both girls so the friend finally spitted out and told that my girl will go with me if I pay her in advance. I was obviously uncomfortable with the unusual request and said what if she does not come of does not perform and her answer was 'my mamasan will kill her'
I wanted her for a LT but she said she can only stay till 5am; we agreed on 3000 and I threw all cautions to the wind and paid her on the spot.
I was getting hungry so we went to a Thai restaurant right off Soi Cowboy and the food was fantastic.
Arrived to the hotel around midnight, opened a bottle of wine, and continued to talk but that could not be the case as she started undressing me and complemented the beauty of my member while I started undressing her slowly while DFK. I touched her pussy and was surprised how wet she was; I was supper hard too and she really wants to fuck. We moved to bed CG then missionary style and she came ahead of me then switched to doggy till I came.
We continued to talk and drink till about 1:30 then she explained that she needs to get some sleep since she has a very long day ahead of her and set up her phone to ring at 4am for more action.
Phone rang at 4 and was ignored by both of us and around 5:30 she started kissing my back and playing with my dick till I got hard again. We both jumped to the bathroom brushed our teeth; more hot action then she left around 6:30.
I was really tempted to ask her to come back in the evening but it was my first mongering day in Bangkok and I wanted to try other girls.
Looks 9, Performance 8, Attitude 8
[QUOTE=Growtek; 1128356]Guys, I had seen the glimmers of this three years ago, but it's morphed into a full on plague.
WTF is it with Coyote girls?
I was in a bar on Soi Cowboy (I think Deja Vu) and was presented with the menu. 150 baht regular gal drink. 200 baht mama san and coyote girl drinks. The mamasan told me none of the coyote girls went with customers."None of them?". None.
For the remainder of the trip if the bar was heavy on the Coyote girls I stayed clear.
In 10 years it'll be sex for high rollers and expensive handjobs for the rest of us. [/QUOTE]Soi Cowboy: Rio, Sahara, Deja Vu, Midnite, Spice Girls, Kiss
All owned by the same guy. Filled with coyotes. Don't visit these places.
[QUOTE=Growtek; 1128356]Guys, I had seen the glimmers of this three years ago, but it's morphed into a full on plague.
WTF is it with Coyote girls?
I was in a bar on Soi Cowboy (I think Deja Vu) and was presented with the menu. 150 baht regular gal drink. 200 baht mama san and coyote girl drinks. The mamasan told me none of the coyote girls went with customers."None of them?". None.
For the remainder of the trip if the bar was heavy on the Coyote girls I stayed clear.
In 10 years it'll be sex for high rollers and expensive handjobs for the rest of us. [/QUOTE]The only solution would be everyone stay clear of these places until they change the policy. But that ain't going to happen. Too many ignorant money wasters around.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1128317]My main issue is that many massage places now have adopted the All inclusive prices only to suit the Japanese, Many Karaoke Clubs accept Japanese Only and Thermae is being Overrum by them.[/QUOTE]Thermae has been dominated by them for years. I never found it a useful pickup spot anyway, just an interesting place to go for a drink and listen to music if I was inclined to check out the scene in that area.
[QUOTE=Growtek; 1128354]There's a lot of change in the P4P scene and all for the worse. I was just in Thailand 3 weeks (January) and had probably my worst trip ever. Not just the cost but the attitude.
Of course, some price migration was inevitable, did you expect it to be 500 ST for every streetwalker forever? [/QUOTE]Prices for SW's in Bangkok haven't been 500 ST for at least four years. IME most have been asking 1000 and I didn't notice any changes in price from 2007 to 2010, although when I was last there the attitudes were better, probably as a direct result of the lack of tourists due to the protests and airport closures. I doubt things have picked up much since then with the mess in Bangkok last year, which explains the free tourists visas being offered and the deadening of sites like this.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1128365]How long you think until the Short-Dicks make it from thermae to the Nana Parking lot?
I think soon enough Gullivers and BG7 will have to have menus in Japanese and a Sushi selection. [/QUOTE]How long? Probably never. They have a looks preference that they won't find too much of amongst the 1000 baht ST TGs there. They prefer to pay more at places like Rainbow 4 in NEP that cater to their needs.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1128317]My only issue with them is that they are changing P4P in Thailand, and not for the better![/QUOTE]They are masters of ruining p4p scenes throughout asia. They're horrible mongers because they drive up prices and spoil hookers. They compensate for their small dick size by throwing more money around. You never hear of black guys overpaying, simply because they don't need to. It all comes down to dick size!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1128448]They are masters of ruining p4p scenes throughout asia. They're horrible mongers because they drive up prices and spoil hookers. They compensate for their small dick size by throwing more money around. You never hear of black guys overpaying, simply because they don't need to. It all comes down to dick size![/QUOTE]
One of the reasons is that the black guys just don't have extra money to throw. Do you think that the hookers fancy the big dick size especially black guys? Sorry no offence!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1128365]How long you think until the Short-Dicks make it from thermae to the Nana Parking lot?
I think soon enough Gullivers and BG7 will have to have menus in Japanese and a Sushi selection. . [/QUOTE]I woldn't panick about the Japanese as someone has already indicated. Japan has not changed much since the 80's and tourism trends are stagnant there as well. I don't think there are many more Japs in Thailand than there were, say, in 1990. Don't worry they won't overrun Thailand or any other place in Asia. Also, knowing their dislike of darker skin, it's not a threat anyway.
Another thing are the Chinese. A country of 1. 35 billion (which is more than TEN TIMES larger than Japan) with the number of rich people (I. E. Potential tourists) skyrocketing as we speak due to economic boom which has now been happening for the past 30 years. Yes, in about 15 years time Thailand won't be a tourism spot dominated by just Weterners as it still is today. At best it will be 50/50 or maybe 40/60 (60 being Chinese) and the "Western" share staying strong only thanks to increasing influx from Russia and hopefully the other Eastern European and "new" EU countries (if they won't die out due to population shrinkage by then). Things are changing and there is no way to hide from it. On the other hand, Asia is a place where there won't ever be shortage of sex. If not Thailand then it'll be Vietnam Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar or anything else. It's not like Westerners will be banned. We have money after all, and money is what matters.
One more thing is the preferences by the girls. A few times I specifically asked Thai go-go girls about what nationalities / cultures they disliked the most. To my surprise (or maybe not?) almost all responses were "Japanese" because "they are rude and disrespectful". I guess it needs no saying that Chinese are worse than that when it comes to treating women. So us Europeans still have and will keep having some advantage because we (well, most of us, I guess) simply treat those girls better and like human beings instead of as just peaces of meat that we can disrespect and humiliate. Even if we only pretend. And, finally, the Chinese men also prefer fair skinned ladies which means they won't go for darker skinned Isaan girls which is what most of us prefer. So no imminent danger from Japs or Chinese for the time being.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1128559]A few times I specifically asked Thai go-go girls about what nationalities / cultures they disliked the most. To my surprise (or maybe not?) almost all responses were "Japanese" because "they are rude and disrespectful". I guess it needs no saying that Chinese are worse than that when it comes to treating women. So us Europeans still have and will keep having some advantage because we (well, most of us, I guess) simply treat those girls better and like human beings instead of as just peaces of meat that we can disrespect and humiliate. Even if we only pretend. And, finally, the Chinese men also prefer fair skinned ladies which means they won't go for darker skinned Isaan girls which is what most of us prefer. So no imminent danger from Japs or Chinese for the time being.[/QUOTE]A surprise indeed! Japanese are anything but what I would define as "rude and disrespectful". I've asked the same question myself to Thai girls, and was mostly told they thought Italians are the worst of the bunch; but then again; being Italian myself they were probably just trying to be nice with me, LOL!
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1127949]I mean obvious stuff really. Being that I live here, when I say 50% the first night I was mostly meeting girls who seemed somewhat wholesome and educated rather than girls who just seemed like they'd be up to screw. I was probably more looking for a nice night with a real person who wasn't expecting a ST / LT fee, and if the sex happened it happened. That's probably the best way to look at it if you want to try meeting real girls.
And be careful because some of them have emotional issues, and some will pull some weird ninja move and before you know it your closet is full of her clothes and she's hinting about marriage.
If you only want sex, just go to a gogo bar or massage parlor. [/QUOTE]Completely agree here. Do not go with these girls if you're only looking for sex. I did the TLL thing for 6 months before I found a real gem and make her my g / f. I had to wade through a lot of shit. These girls play a lot of games. Some girls just want to fuck a farang once or twice, some just want free dinner, some just want a free English lesson, and some really really want a farang boyfriend. Many of them have serious emotional issues and it's obvious from the start. They will start crying when you try to leave them, or will start showing up at your door unannounced. One time I was fucking one and another knocked on my door. Was not pretty.
Many are very very nice but do not expect to (always) have the same quality of sex you would have with a Nana Plaza girl. Many of these girls consider themselves to be "good" girls. That said, I would say 80% of them fucked me on the first date. The others usually just didn't answer their phones or wanted to play hard to get which I just didn't have the time (or the patience) for.
As a rule, I never went out with a girl from TLL who was from Isaan. They seem to want the marriage thing more than others. I also didn't go out with any girl who didn't have at least a college degree, and although I fucked a few young ones (an 18-year old uni girl once came over in her uniform to fuck me) , I made it clear that I was looking for someone in the 24-27 age group. The younger girls are very very immature and like to play games. But again, I was looking for a relationship, which I eventually got. But I definitely had fun along the way!
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1128583]The younger girls are very very immature and like to play games. But again, I was looking for a relationship, which I eventually got. But I definitely had fun along the way![/QUOTE]Oh boy, these younger girls are really Naughty! I am in the last phase of "closing" the deal with a Student From TAGGED. We did the Message, Chat and now the CamChat so they see I am real and I see they are the girl from the pictures.
The girl is very naughty and she wants only 1 thing from me: SEX. The thing she hinted was that her friend wanted to watch us do it. (as exciting as it may sound, I am not sure I am up for that yet). I don't want the whole school to be showing up at my door. And any angry Wannabe boyfriend.
I guess the 25 yo+ are much Safer.
Chatted with a girl that sells condos last night and she wanted to sell me one. When I asked her if I would get her as a signing bonus, she said that I could get her even if I don't sign. I can't wait to go visiting apartments with her LOL
[QUOTE=Samata61; 1128374]I arrived late to BKK, took a little rest then off to Baccara I went.
Based on the advice of the Senior Members, I was late since I did not get there till 9:30 and the place was jammed with customers both downstairs and upstairs; 90% Asians.
Lots of girls dancing decent looking with lots of silicon but I did not really see any stunner and was worried that I was late. The next group of dancers arrived and I noticed a fine looking creature with cute face, great proportion, and perfect size tits that had to be natural so I asked the waitress to call her over.
She looks even better up close and the conversation went really well but when I asked about the cost, she politely declined, explaining that she only goes with Asian (Japanese ATM) and wants to go back to the dance floor. I was very disappointed so I called her Mamasan who concurred saying that she never saw her leave with anyone but Japanese.
I watched the dancers but I could not find anyone I like so I called the same girl over again and continued to talk to see why she won't go with and she explained that she is scared and heard some not so good stories about Americans so I tried to be as nice as possible to try to make her feel comfortable. Another song came and once again she excused herself to go dancing and this time I noticed that she was talking to another girl at the dance floor who looked a little like her so I asked the waitress to call the second girl who turned out to be her best friend but not nearly as pretty with very small tits. I was trying to some inside information and asked what will take for me to convince her friend to go with me. She explained that her friend liked me but she is uncomfortable with Americans, scared of the size, and told me a story about an American who took a girl last night and did not pay her (Probably bull shit). My girl was done dancing so I asked her over again and now I am sitting and talking to both girls so the friend finally spitted out and told that my girl will go with me if I pay her in advance. I was obviously uncomfortable with the unusual request and said what if she does not come of does not perform and her answer was 'my mamasan will kill her'
I wanted her for a LT but she said she can only stay till 5am; we agreed on 3000 and I threw all cautions to the wind and paid her on the spot.
I was getting hungry so we went to a Thai restaurant right off Soi Cowboy and the food was fantastic.
Arrived to the hotel around midnight, opened a bottle of wine, and continued to talk but that could not be the case as she started undressing me and complemented the beauty of my member while I started undressing her slowly while DFK. I touched her pussy and was surprised how wet she was; I was supper hard too and she really wants to fuck. We moved to bed CG then missionary style and she came ahead of me then switched to doggy till I came.
We continued to talk and drink till about 1:30 then she explained that she needs to get some sleep since she has a very long day ahead of her and set up her phone to ring at 4am for more action.
Phone rang at 4 and was ignored by both of us and around 5:30 she started kissing my back and playing with my dick till I got hard again. We both jumped to the bathroom brushed our teeth; more hot action then she left around 6:30.
I was really tempted to ask her to come back in the evening but it was my first mongering day in Bangkok and I wanted to try other girls.
Looks 9, Performance 8, Attitude 8[/QUOTE]Thank you for your informative report.
It is really interesting to hear about the 90% Asians thingie. Last time I was in Baccarra was in 2009 and as far as I can remember by far most customers were Westerners (Europeans / Americans). Perhaps more Asians upstairs but still definitely not anywhere near 90% and perhaps not even 50. Could it be that things have changed so quickly over just 1-2 years? Also it is very strange to hear that the girl refused to go with you in the beginning. I have never experienced anything like that and have never heard of this happening to anyone I know (and I know a few mongers who had quite a few bargirls). Some girls don't want to go LT but not go at all? That is very strange. I don't want to sound intimidating or disrespectful by any means to you but could there be any objective reason for that? Such as regarding your appearance, body size, haircut, unshaved beard or anything else why she might not wanted to go with you?
I mean I would be a very strange and indeed very bad practice for the bars to allow their go-go girls not to go with some clients while go with others. This would ruin their image and indeed if this is really true what you wrote, already did! Besides I have never heard of anything like that and that just sounds unimaginable to me. Even if the girl is not too willing to go she usually does anyway and just stays a coldfish the whole time (it happened to me once or twice).
I wonder what is the opinion of other experienced mongers? Does this happen often or was that girl just really in a bad mood or outright mad?
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1128589]Thank you for your informative report. Could it be that things have changed so quickly over just 1-2 years?[/QUOTE]Just shows who has the money. Lots of Asians working in Bangkok and living near SC. They don't have regualar GFs or giks, but do have big salaries. Old farangs on holiday go to Pattaya as they like the prices there (RTFF). Moneyed and young farangs in BKK (with game) usually have GFs or giks, and / or don't like to pay the crazy ST go-go prices. Two hours at a massage shop with a woman willing to please is a lot more cost effective than a hurried hit-or-miss stab at a temperamental go-go diva. Of course, some of the those go-go girls are nastier than you can imagine, and will fck the life out of you in an hour or two. Good luck for some, it seems.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1128589]Besides I have never heard of anything like that and that just sounds unimainable to be. Even if the girl is not too willing to go she usually does anyway and just stays a coldfish the whole time (it happened to me once or twice).[/QUOTE]Go-go dancers (in demand) are not obliged to go with anyone that asks. However, they usually do have quotas for barfines and drinks that reflect on their bar pay packet at the end of the month. A few generous Asian customers can more than offset any deductions for quantity of barfines.
Many clubs actually prefer their best looking dancers not be barfined as they sell a lot more drinks with them around in the club. The profit money for the club is in selling expensive drinks and watered down lady drinks, not seeing their main "attractions" leave too easily.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1128589]I mean I would be a very strange and indeed very bad practice for the bars to allow their go-go girls not to go with some clients while go with others. This would ruin their image and indeed if this is really true what you wrote, already did! Besides I have never heard of anything like that and that just sounds unimaginable to me. Even if the girl is not too willing to go she usually does anyway and just stays a coldfish the whole time (it happened to me once or twice).
I wonder what is the opinion of other experienced mongers? Does this happen often or was that girl just really in a bad mood or outright mad? [/QUOTE]I have seen it done before, it quite Common Actually. Granted it usually flies under the radar because they aren't honest about it but it happens a lot.
Ever wanted to Barfine a Cute Hostess but "she not go with Customer", or a BG that "Already man pay her Barfine", or if you want LT she will say she cannot. Or she will tell you she can go for 4000 LT?
These are hidden messages for them not to go with you and for you not to get offended.
I know for a Fact that a few girls I have been with absolutely hate Blacks, Arabs and Indians so they will try every trick to make sure these customers do not Barfine them. The Bars don't care because if the girls stay in the bar, they make money from Drinks anyway.
I think it is good that not all girls are forced to go with all customers and that there is some kind or "Rapport" when going back to the hotel.
A lady at Amore Massage (very pretty and very white) says that she choose to work at Amore, with no salary for the massage but is Free to offer extras or not. She said that many times customers were not very nice or too pushy and she said she can do only massage and not Special. She offered to change girls.
She likes to work at Amore because she has the right to refuse special to customers and the Massage joint will not be angry with her.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1128594]Many clubs actually prefer their best looking dancers not be barfined as they sell a lot more drinks with them around in the club. The profit money for the club is in selling expensive drinks and watered down lady drinks, not seeing their main "attractions" leave too easily.[/QUOTE]I know this may be the case in some smaller bars and this is what is definitely happening in places like Patong beer-bars in Patong Beach (and I guess elsewhere). I know it may be a struggle to get the girl out straight away and go with you to the hotel.
But I wouldn't think this is a common practice in places like Baccarra, Rainbow4 or Sharks Bar. These places are so huge and busy so that rotation has to be quick for all girls to even be able to step on the stage at least twice in one night, not to mention that some "best" ones would have to stay there all night and earn drinks. Someone once told me there were around 300 girls in Rainbow 4 (that was 2007 though) so I'm sure with thee numbers they don't mess around with keeping their "best looking" girls on the stage. It's a quick action there sometimes and all the best girls are barfined after or even before 10pm on some busier evenings.
Anyway I guess there is still alot I need to learn. I just couldn't take if some girl would simply refuse to go with me without a very good reason, especially since I always try to do my best in terms of appearance and behavior. But I guess it's good to know that sometimes it may not go 100% your way.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1128594]Moneyed and young farangs in BKK (with game) usually have GFs or giks, and / or don't like to pay the crazy ST go-go prices. Two hours at a massage shop with a woman willing to please is a lot more cost effective than a hurried hit-or-miss stab at a temperamental go-go diva.[/QUOTE]Well that would be me.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1128602]I have seen it done before, it quite Common Actually. Granted it usually flies under the radar because they aren't honest about it but it happens a lot.
Ever wanted to Barfine a Cute Hostess but "she not go with Customer", or a BG that "Already man pay her Barfine", or if you want LT she will say she cannot. Or she will tell you she can go for 4000 LT? [/quote]Isn't 4000LT a normal price in Rainbow 4 or Baccarra while ST is 2000? At least this seems to be the case for the past 5 years or so now. Although it may go down to 3000 LT after even a minimal negotiating (sometimes not though).
Many girls would indeed not go LT although sometimes they change their mind after they're in the hotel. However it has never happened to me that she would just refuse to go. I mean I had around 20 girls in various bars in Bangkok, Pattaya and Patong over the past 4 years and it never happened. Is it possible that things like looks, age, general appearance and behavior can be some sort of a qualifying factor in some situations?
As for blacks, Arabs and Indians it is definitely true knowing that racism is strong in Asia and that's the way it is. There's nothing to be done about it and, to be honest, I'm feeling a little sorry for those guys who fall "victims" of such "policies" and social attitudes of Thai and other Asian societies.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1128605]But I wouldn't think this is a common practice in places like Baccarra, Rainbow4 or Sharks Bar. These places are so huge and busy so that rotation has to be quick for all girls to even be able to step on the stage at least twice in one night, not to mention that some "best" ones would have to stay there all night and earn drinks.[/QUOTE]Girls in Baccara, RB4 or Sharks are not pressured to go with customers. And the popular ones usually like to go through 2 ST before they settle on a LT. They have Plenty of customers.
If they don't like you, they will do their best to avoid looking at you or smiling. I remember one day I was at Baccara and asked the Waitress to get me a girl I liked. The girl sat with me and was not comfortable. She apologized, said she was scared of going with a White Farang, she was very sorry and she would pay for her drink. I asked her if she could sit and talk just until she finishes her drink. During the 10mn we sat and talked, the waitress approached her 3 times to tell her some Japs were asking about her. She eventually excused herself and left.
Such is life for the busy girls, there are a lot of customers to choose from.
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BTW, I managed to find a few gems around BKK on my recent trip. One was Nong from Soi Cowboy. Cute, great attitude and expensive (oh well. 2/3). I don't take photos like I used to but for these I had a tripod, shutter release and SLR Digital. It really helped with the indoor shots.
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[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1128605]Anyway I guess there is still alot I need to learn. I just couldn't take if some girl would simply refuse to go with me without a very good reason, especially since I always try to do my best in terms of appearance and behavior. But I guess it's good to know that sometimes it may not go 100% your way.[/QUOTE]Thailand is full of beautiful fish. Mongering is a lot like fishing.
When angling for a big one, it can either be "catch and release," or "catch and eat." Sometimes both. Even the best fisherman has a beautiful, big fish spit out the hook just before the net scoops it up.
Fishing is a lot like life. Often there is no answer to,"why?"
That is why it is good to drink while fishing. You always catch a buzz.
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1128583]Completely agree here. Do not go with these girls if you're only looking for sex. I did the TLL thing for 6 months before I found a real gem and make her my g / f. I had to wade through a lot of shit. These girls play a lot of games. Some girls just want to fuck a farang once or twice, some just want free dinner, some just want a free English lesson, and some really really want a farang boyfriend. Many of them have serious emotional issues and it's obvious from the start. They will start crying when you try to leave them, or will start showing up at your door unannounced. One time I was fucking one and another knocked on my door. Was not pretty.
Many are very very nice but do not expect to (always) have the same quality of sex you would have with a Nana Plaza girl. Many of these girls consider themselves to be "good" girls. That said, I would say 80% of them fucked me on the first date. The others usually just didn't answer their phones or wanted to play hard to get which I just didn't have the time (or the patience) for.
As a rule, I never went out with a girl from TLL who was from Isaan. They seem to want the marriage thing more than others. I also didn't go out with any girl who didn't have at least a college degree, and although I fucked a few young ones (an 18-year old uni girl once came over in her uniform to fuck me) , I made it clear that I was looking for someone in the 24-27 age group. The younger girls are very very immature and like to play games. But again, I was looking for a relationship, which I eventually got. But I definitely had fun along the way! [/QUOTE]When looking for a girlfriend, I really try to avoid the Isaan girls. They're generally a huge headache. Not that it's completely their fault; they often have family members breathing down their neck wondering when they're going to strike it rich with a dumb farang with a big loose wallet. And yes, under 25 almost always means a lot of games and problems too.
You have to be real careful and get away from anyone who starts getting nutty, which many of them do.
[quote]Many clubs actually prefer their best looking dancers not be barfined as they sell a lot more drinks with them around in the club. The profit money for the club is in selling expensive drinks and watered down lady drinks, not seeing their main "attractions" leave too easily. [/quote]
I suspect it won't be long before Baccara is a hostess club and any decent looking girl isn't barfineable.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1128632]Thailand is full of beautiful fish. Mongering is a lot like fishing.
When angling for a big one, it can either be "catch and release," or "catch and eat." Sometimes both. Even the best fisherman has a beautiful, big fish spit out the hook just before the net scoops it up.
Fishing is a lot like life. Often there is no answer to,"why?"
That is why it is good to drink while fishing. You always catch a buzz. [/QUOTE]Am I the only one that could not make sense of this post?
[QUOTE=Evianist;1128634]I suspect it won't be long before Baccara is a hostess club and any decent looking girl isn't barfineable.[/QUOTE]The Asian's Favourite model. Go to the Club (Coyote or Hostess) to drink and get a companion to sit with you. Then go to Massage Parlors for sex.
Listen to how dumb (and not even good looking) these girls are: [url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/multimedia/vdo/223515/the-coyote-dancers[/url]
(Thanks Pita123 for the Link)
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1128635]Am I the only one that could not make sense of this post?[/QUOTE]When's the last time you went fishin'?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1128638]When's the last time you went fishin'?[/QUOTE]Never went Fishing.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1128299]We have heard this crap since decades. And the "japs" as you so nicely call them, are still around.[/QUOTE]
More than just "around" ... [url]Www.google.com/search?q=lost+decades+myth[/url]
[QUOTE=Growtek;1128356]WTF is it with Coyote girls?[/QUOTE]It's utter shite, but people love shite. They cannot get enough of it. If you fail, it's because your idea is not shite enough.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1128312]Good for them for overpaying?
Won't be sharing any secret / cheap spots with you! [/QUOTE]Don't. I am not after cheap shots. I am after good shots.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1128326]Just wait until the day that the growing masses of horny, moneyed Chinese men start to arrive in significant numbers. Will make the Japanese sex tourists look like polite mosquitoes on an elephant's butt.[/QUOTE]Maybe. They take example on the hords of US men who came after world war II, and initiated this.
"Japs" have small dicks."Negroes" have big dick. What a nice and simple world!
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1128589]Thank you for your informative report.
It is really interesting to hear about the 90% Asians thingie. Last time I was in Baccarra was in 2009 and as far as I can remember by far most customers were Westerners (Europeans / Americans). Perhaps more Asians upstairs but still definitely not anywhere near 90% and perhaps not even 50. Could it be that things have changed so quickly over just 1-2 years? Also it is very strange to hear that the girl refused to go with you in the beginning. I have never experienced anything like that and have never heard of this happening to anyone I know (and I know a few mongers who had quite a few bargirls). Some girls don't want to go LT but not go at all? That is very strange. I don't want to sound intimidating or disrespectful by any means to you but could there be any objective reason for that? Such as regarding your appearance, body size, haircut, unshaved beard or anything else why she might not wanted to go with you?
I mean I would be a very strange and indeed very bad practice for the bars to allow their go-go girls not to go with some clients while go with others. This would ruin their image and indeed if this is really true what you wrote, already did! Besides I have never heard of anything like that and that just sounds unimaginable to me. Even if the girl is not too willing to go she usually does anyway and just stays a coldfish the whole time (it happened to me once or twice).
I wonder what is the opinion of other experienced mongers? Does this happen often or was that girl just really in a bad mood or outright mad? [/QUOTE]Appearance has nothing to do with it as I've never had a problem picking up girls anywhere and the girl was super wet while still dressed; I knew she liked me otherwise she would not have come. Anyway, they are really looking for the size of your wallet.
I am white, early 40, well dressed, no facial hair, no fat, exercise 4-5 times a week, polite, and have a good size wallet. I was always told that I look pretty good.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1128728]Maybe. They take example on the hords of US men who came after world war II, and initiated this.[/QUOTE]More likely to take example of the hordes of japanese who came DURING world war II.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1128636]The Asian's Favourite model. Go to the Club (Coyote or Hostess) to drink and get a companion to sit with you. Then go to Massage Parlors for sex.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what they do in South Korea. I spent 2 years there (it's shit for mongers, BTW). Go to a room salon with your business partners. Buy loads of drinks and food. Invite some girls over for company. Leave then go fuck a massage (or "massageeee") girl. Waste of time, if you ask me. Fortunately there are lots of other opportunities in K-land, but most are expensive.
Woke up around 10am, breakfast, shower. Etc. Then I went to 'Health Land' for 2 hour Thai massage (non sexual) and I really needed it.
The program was afternoon soapie then I wanted to try Tilac Go Go Bar.
Arrived to Emanuel soapie at 3:30pm and it was empty with only 3 sliders in the fish ball; I guess I was really early and was disappointed. Papasan explained that the main selection start coming around 6 but there was no way I can wait that long and make the GoGo Bar so I took the cutest of the 3 sliders after Papasan guaranteed that she is good or my money back (I can take that to the bank) LOL.
She was a cute girl and really well built; she has been working there for 1 year and usually gets 2-3 customers per day. The cut is 60% for the girl and 40% for the house; wow these sliders make good money for Thailand.
I was not taking any chances so I immediately placed 1000 baht on the table explaining that it will be her tip if I am satisfied.
We went through the typical routine; She was really nice, earned her tip, as I was completely satisfied.
Total Damage: 3, 600 Girl:2, 600 Tip:1, 000.
Went down and had some food while watching more girls come in and was really tempted to go again but decided against it otherwise I won't make Tilac.
Left to the hotel slept for about an hour then went to Tilac arriving around 9:30. The scene was vastly different than Baccara with 90% Farang customers and I felt more comfortable. Lots of girls dancing and sitting everywhere but the level of the talent appeared to be a little less than Baccara. There were a couple of 8, a few 7, and some real dogs. A girl sitting at the bar playing a game with an old Farang (65) caught my eye but she appeared to be with him so I continued to watch the dancers to try to make my selection. I made eye contact with the girl sitting at the bar and she smiled widely and motioned if I want her to come over which I immediately accepted. Gift (her name) was supper nice and we hit it off right away; she asked for 4000 LT, we agreed on 3000, and she would have taken less as she was completely into me.
It was still early, coyote dancers were on the stage, and I was enjoying the show so we decided to stay in the bar and have a few drinks. It was a great decision since I was talking to the coyotes, other girls, customers, and really had a blast of an evening. I had gotten really friendly with one of the coyote girls who was a perfect 10 and not an once of fat on her body. The 3 of us agreed to have lunch the next day and since I did not have my cell with me, Gift took her number.
We arrived to the hotel around 1:00 and went into action immediately. The girls was supper Horney; she explained that she has been away for a year taking care of her sick mother and I was her first customer since she came back 2 days ago. Everything was on the menu; started with DFK, Deep Throat BBBJ, DATY, and it was the sweetest tasting pussy and she came wildly. We proceeded to fuck and despite being very wet she was so tight that I had problem fucking her in every position as she was in obvious pain but would not stop or complain. We finished around 2 and while laying in each others arms, she received a disturbing phone call and explained that she must leave which was a great disappointment especially since she would not tell me what is the matter. She was supper apologetics and told me I can give her what ever I want; I gave her 2000 and let her go. It was probably a good thing since I was tiered and can use some undisturbed shuteye.
Woke up around 10 and remembered that the Cayote phone number was with Gift and I don't have Gift's phone number either. Dumb ass.
My flight was today at 8pm but I am having so much fun that I decided to stay for another day. I could not find any spaces on the planes for the next 3 days so I packed and off to the airport arriving late (6:45pm). I was ecstatic as the flight was overbooked so I volunteered to give p my seat in exchange for a guaranteed seat next day and $500 spending money. I was really lucky as I was prepared to pay $500 extra for a seat on the next day plane.
Went back to the hotel arriving around 8:30pm, ordered room service and slept for an hour as I was tired.
Arrived to Tilac at 10:30 and I guess that was late; fewer girls than yesterday but I was really there for the coyote who was dancing and very pleased to see me. I was really enjoying the show when I received a knock on my back from one of the cute girls (YaYa) I was flirting with yesterday (great ass but small tits) ; had a couple of drinks and I explained to her that I was really tiered and not interested in taking anyone with me tonight but she kept hanging around and would not leave.
The coyote came over and we started talking after getting her phone number-oh she was so fine, small, maybe 5 ft, perfect body, proportion, and cute face.
Had YaYa on my left and the coyote to my right and here comes the cutest girl I've seen in this place. Trimboli was YaYa's best friend; 165cm, beautiful face, what an ass, perfect size silicon, blondish / red hair, and café au lait skin.
The coyote went to dance and I started talking to both girls and with a couple of drinks in my system I changed my mind quickly because if this girl gets on the dance floor she is gone. I asked the girls if they would both come with me and it was agreed; they asked for 4, 000 LT each and we agreed on 3, 000 a piece.
We are talking and laughing when the Coyote came back and both girls stopped talking and by the time I realized what happened, it was almost too late. It was explained to me by the very determined 'Trimboli' that they hate coyotes because they consider themselves in a higher class than the WG. I asked the girls to go change and while they were I talked to the coyote explaining to her what happened and we agreed to have lunch tomorrow prior to my departure.
The girls came back with YaYa in a short black dressed while fashionable Trimboli in shorts, tight t-shirt, and a man's sport coat. It was around 12:30 and I was not in the mood to go to the hotel and stayed in the bar till 2 am having a good time with the girls and few customers.
A gentleman from Australia inquired if I would be able to perform with 2 girls after having so much to drink and I answered that I am having a good time and they are WG so they probably don't care if I perform or not.
I was really hungry so we got something to eat then went to the hotel arriving at 3am and the Australian fellow was so correct as after the shot, I could not sustain an erection but the whole session was great since it took so much longer and we did not sleep till 6am. Don't ask for details because I don't remember.
I woke up the girls at 11:30 Triboli showered first and we started with 69 while YaYa was showering then she moved to CG position and she came so I asked her to stop since I also intended to fuck YaYa and I don't have lots of juices left. YaYa emerged and we started fondling and kissing till she got a little wet we fucked in various positions and she was so tight but I could not come so she took my member in her mouth BBBJ and CIM.
The girls left around 1pm and I immediately called the coyote and woke her up, we agreed to meet at the hotel then go for lunch. She arrived at 3pm and chose a very nice Thai restaurant (I think it is called Siam) where we had a wonderful lunch with a bottle of Australian Chardonnay.
Back to the hotel around 5pm and I had to leave to the airport at 5:30 so she helped me packed. Some light kissing, fondling with her cloth on, and played a little with her small but perfect tits.
It is 5:30 so we exchanged emails, gave her a small tip, and off to the airport.
I was in seventh heaven: 9 girls (not counting the coyote) in 5 days between Macau and BKK but deep in thought that I should be taking Viagra or Cialis in my next mongering trip since I had a hard time keeping up with the girls the last couple of nights.