Siem Reap

[QUOTE=RetiredForever]........He was always available no matter how early or late we wanted him. We usually paid him $12 for being around all day in case we wanted to go somewhere and $5 to take us around at night. He knows all the spots and speaks fair English...........[/QUOTE]Hi there friend,

It is a little while since I have been up to Siem Reap but I think I know why your TukTuk was always around. $17 a day sounds like a lot og guaranteed income for him and he probably didn't want anyone else to cash in.

As I say, it has been a while since I was in Siem Reap, but circa $500 a month sounds like way above the average wage.

Anyone else any thoughts on standard rate for having TukTuk on call, whether you use them or not? I think I would take my chances on finding TukTuk when I wanted one and so not pay a retainer. Am I a cheap charlie?

Hawk

[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there friend,

It is a little while since I have been up to Siem Reap but I think I know why your TukTuk was always around. $17 a day sounds like a lot og guaranteed income for him and he probably didn't want anyone else to cash in.

As I say, it has been a while since I was in Siem Reap, but circa $500 a month sounds like way above the average wage.

Anyone else any thoughts on standard rate for having TukTuk on call, whether you use them or not? I think I would take my chances on finding TukTuk when I wanted one and so not pay a retainer. Am I a cheap charlie?

Hawk[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are... if you can afford going as far as SR, you may contribute to better the life of the locals by not arguing about a few dollars, while those get you a better service.. IMHO....

Hi there. I have also posted on the PP board recently. Basically, I am visiting Cambodia for the 1st time in Sept. I have already booked a room at Mandalay Inn so thanks for the advice on that.

However, I had a few queries regarding the scene in SR. Firstly, with it being the rainy season, how does this affect the girl situation here? Also, I had heard that $10 girls were the norm here, but it seems this may not be the case? Is SR more expensive than PP in this respect? I will be looking for slightly more mature women to take back to the hotel ideally. Any tips on that would be useful.

Cheers,

Donnylad

Rainy season=not so many tourists=good times for less money.SR appears to be more expensive than PP due to the numbers of tourists.Phantom tiger is the full bottle on SR,check his reports in the archives.
All I know is that I was there last june and I had a great time at the bar street and later on at martini dancing and the khmer disco whose name I can't remember-zone 1 thats it.
I found a lovely cham girl at martinis who was overjoyed with $20 all night and i got so pissed at zone 1 that the moto and the hotel guy had to put me to bed,I couldn't remember a thing the next day.
Thats what i call a good night.

[QUOTE=Prince Harry]
I found a lovely cham girl at martinis who was overjoyed with $20 all night and i got so pissed at zone 1 that the moto and the hotel guy had to put me to bed,I couldn't remember a thing the next day.
Thats what i call a good night.[/QUOTE]


Ha ha, Good one Harry, anytime a guy puts you to bed and nothing happened then it's a good nite. Anytime a gal puts you to bed and everything happens then it's a great nite.


PT

[QUOTE=Donnylad]Hi there. I have also posted on the PP board recently. Basically, I am visiting Cambodia for the 1st time in Sept. I have already booked a room at Mandalay Inn so thanks for the advice on that.

However, I had a few queries regarding the scene in SR. Firstly, with it being the rainy season, how does this affect the girl situation here? Also, I had heard that $10 girls were the norm here, but it seems this may not be the case? Is SR more expensive than PP in this respect? I will be looking for slightly more mature women to take back to the hotel ideally. Any tips on that would be useful.

Cheers,

Donnylad[/QUOTE]


Donnylad,
Prince Harry is correct. In general, prices are higher all across the board in SR because of 1)supply / demand ( much less supply of gals in SR in the business) and 2) more higher class tourist on more expensive tour packages visit SR willing to fork over larger sums of cash.
In SR, $10 is not the norm unless you find a back alley brothel in a wooden shack full of mosquitos, then it's about 7-$10 for the foreigner.
Most gals in SR are generally in the younger class and not the more older mature type in SR. You can still find the mature ones at Martini club (across the river from Pub st) need not worry as most of the younger ones are usually picked up 1st so the mature ones are left for later, or go to the 2-3 MPs just west of pub st on a small street (about 100 yards/meters) before you reach the Temple Villa hotel. Your location at Mandalay is very close to these MPs. I believe more detail directions are all in my past post on these MPs.
Also, there are about 2 more places full of ladies on the same road just past Martinis but they will try to milk you with starting prices of $60-70/nite for the gal, so much cheaper and easier for pick up at Martini. Enjoy and report back with your experiences.

PT

When I was in SR I noticed there were not a lot of older people. Made a comment to Doug at Orange. He told me (if I remember it correctly) that 52% of the population of SR is female between ages of 18-21. For some reason after the war there was an unusual larger number of women born. Most can not stand Cambodian man-they are either gay or treat them like second class citizens. They like the treatment they receive from Europeans. I am 57 and so so looking. I personally found even the women I meet around town to be very nice. Let's try not to ruin the scene by taking advantage of the situation with bad Karma. THe last thing we need is need is another country where every bar you walk by has girls yelling out at you "grandpa" wanting them to buy you drinks. I personally plan on going back to Cambodian in November for a 2-3 month visit (will also be visiting Viet Nam).

If anyone has any good info on life in Snooky I would love to hear from you

Thanks for the info guys. Will definitely report back. Martinis sounds like just the ticket!!

Donnylad

Donny,

I stayed at Mandalay Inn last November and it is a great place to stay. The staff was very helpful and I brought in a few young ladies in and it isn't an issue. As a matter of fact, the wife of the owner who is around most of the day gave me directions to the local Viet brothels which were right around the corner. As stated by the other guys, you are central to the town and close to everything.

There was a fishbowl place right around the corner from Mandalay where I pulled a few girls out. If my memory serves me correct, it was 30$ for the whole night and there was quite a nice selection. I reported on this last November/December and has been suggested before there are quite a few reports prior to that.

If you need more info, you can always rely on the the wife of the owner who was bouncing two babies on her lap as she gave me info on the brothels.

I arrived from Phnom Penh June 23 after 6. 5 hours on an air conditioned? Bus. We did stop twice to cool the engine by throwing 5 gallon buckets of water on the radiator then refilling it. The road was fairly smooth and got less crowded the closer we came to Siem Reap. I had prepared for my trip to Cambodia by reading all of the forums along with many blogs about Laos and China as my main purpose in coming to SE Asia was to teach in Guiyang, China for a month. It just made sense to me to come to a place where I could afford to have the fun I had in college a "few" years ago.

I suppose I could have planned ahead, but that is not my style. I asked the tuk tuk driver to take me to the Golden Orange Hotel that RetiredForever reccomended. By the way, Doug remembers you guys. We even tipped a beer in your honor. The Golden Orange is a very nice hotel as explained earlier. You really feel welcome and are well taken care of.

I showed Doug the list of places I was going to check out and he commented not to waste my time on Martini's but to go to the Blue Wave for a drink then on to Zone 1. I took his advice. The Blue Wave is not particularly large. There were about 8-9 girls there at 11:00 when I arrived. I of course was greeted by several at the door but kept walking around the bar to check things out then settled at the bar for a beveridge. The first girl that met me at the door sits next to me and rubs me all over asking if I want to make love to her. I asked how much, $20 she replied. I walk away and have a chat with a couple of young? Men and their girls, one from Tahiti and the other from Netherlands. My girl just followed me over and kept rubbing me without being too obnoxious. I rather enjoyed it. The beer was $2 and was served with a little plate of peanuts. We must have chatted a half an hour then I left to Zone 1. BTW I returned last night and enjoyed the services of "my girl" for $15. She didn't begrude me and really took care of me taking extra time with the BBBJ so I could get hard enough to finish. I am going to have to invest in some of those blue pills.

Zone One- Wow! Huge! A nice restaurant outside and a large, loud dance floor surrounded by a balcony upstairs where you can look down on the action. No cover charge! I did a walk around dancing as I walk and check out all the corners. I settle in in the southwest section near the bar and find a cutie who is anxious to dance with a large american middle aged man. And dance we did! I love to dance and at home it embarrases some. Here it seeml like I am John Travolta! I have to rest every few dances to catch my breath, wipe my brow and have a drink. A large bottle of Anckor beer $3. 30. My dancing partner shares one with me. We dance for an hour or so then on to business. I ask her to come back to my hotel with me. No problem. We did not discuss money, but as we were walking out the door her momasaan came over and asked for $30. She explained that is all I have to pay, no bar fine. I did not dicker. I mean negotiate as I was ready! Back to the Golden Orange for one of the nicest times in quite a long time. We showered, brushed our teeth, then on to the body kissing for 15-20 minutes. BBBJ, DATY, Anal-rimming then on to the main event! Wow!

After visiting Phnom Penh for several days (see report in the Phnom Penh section), I went to Siem Reap for 2 days and 1 night to see Angkor Wat. Comments below:

* Golden Orange: A nice hotel on the northern side of the city. It's a moto ride to any bar or anything you'd want to see/do in Siem Reap, but that isn't a major problem since there are almost always drivers hanging out nearby. I arrived at 11 am and had no problem checking in early.

* Zone One: A large dance club with Karoke as well. I only stayed in the dance club area so I can't comment on the rest. The large dance area is surrounded by tables and booths, similar to other clubs througout Asia. Although 80-90% of the people there are locals just out to have fun, I was approached several times throughout the evening by working girls. I like having a chance to talk to the girl and get a good look at her before taking her home, and the lighting and loud music made it impossible to do so, so I left without anyone.

* Martini's: I think the is the other dance club in Siem Reap, but my memory is failing me. Lots of techno music and much smaller than Zone One. It's older and on the decline. Not a single working girl that I could detect in my 30 minutes there.

* Blue Wave Bar: Short-time bar with 5-8 working girls ranging from 4-7. I went here early in the evening and decided on going to check out other places before coming back. By the time I did, the 7 was busy and I decided not to wait around. I think the quoted price is $20 short-time in their room.

* Brothels: After not finding anyone, a local motocycle driver took me to 4-5 different local brothels. I can't remember where some of them were, but there were 3 on the Zone One road between Zone One and the road leading to the airport. Most of the girls there obviously didn't want to go with me so I avoided them. The rate I was quoted for most of them, $30 for short-time to my hotel (too high) or $20 short-time in their rooms (they looked pretty dirty and I was worried about safety), so I went back to the hotel without one. There was one 9 who I wanted to take, but when I saw her she was in a towel and on her way to a room followed by a local guy. One of the owners told me that the price for a local guy was $10.

* Sightseeing: You can accomplish a significant amount with a hired tuk-tuk driver. I paid $12 the first day, and $20 the second (I went to Bantray Srei and the airport which was why it cost more) and saw 10-15 temples in 2 days of sightseeing. I wish I paid the extra $$ for an official guide since I probably would have gotten much more out of the experience. If you're coming to Siem Reap, the temples should be the reason, not the p4p which is better in Phnom Penh.

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Great report #1344. This is the kind of factual reporting that is of real value to those of us planning a first trip.

1344 - they lied - the local price is 5000R

Fellow Mongers -

I am headed to SR in Late Aug and I am considering the above-mentioned hotel - does anyone have any commentary to share from previous experiences? I am looking at location to Pub Street and close proximity to the markets and of course, GF friendly...

Any local help would be greatly appreciated.

n_r

I'm also trying to figure out where to stay. My research turned up the above hotel, but I don't know if it would be "comfortable" to bring a lady home. The Steung has a very centralized location which I really prefer.

I sent my research notes on both the Steung and Bopha Angkor to nite runner, but I too would really like to hear more from the experienced travelers. Come on guys...someone out there must know about places other than the Golden Orange and the Mandalay.

Also for the traveler who is interested in the cultural things, tourist sites, temples, and lakes...what is the ideal number of days to visit SR? Thanks!