Moscow

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]OK, here's something I didn't already know (among others)....

American Airlines has non-stop service from Chicago to Domodedovo. The cost of a round trip ticket is less than $800. Of course, that's the "super saver" fare, so don't even think about asking to change your dates, or they will clamp you in irons and ship you off to the Gulag.[/QUOTE]They recently introduced the ORD to DME service, and seat availability was good until the word got around that the new flights were available. But how could you change the dates anyway? Aren't your dates already locked in the moment you apply for a visa?

Even if you have a changeable ticket, I have always wondered what happens if you have a visa that's good until Friday and you miss the flight. Can you extend the visa to Saturday?

I don't meet with women who can easily afford making pictures of themselves and putting them to the sex forums, I am sorry if I have dispappointed you guy, but I think , what you are suggesting, that really smells, not my opinion about the high class escort I met ;-)

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]Funlover11,

Why dont you advertise Ilona at classified ads section.

If you really met her, why didnt you take her pics and why dont you post them here.

Unless otherwise, your post smells fake.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]But how could you change the dates anyway? Aren't your dates already locked in the moment you apply for a visa?
Even if you have a changeable ticket, I have always wondered what happens if you have a visa that's good until Friday and you miss the flight. Can you extend the visa to Saturday?[/QUOTE]
No, you cannot extend your visa. If you miss the flight and have to stay over beyond your visa date, then you are in deep... kasha. But, as a tourist in Russia, you have up to 30 days. When you apply for your visa, apply for the full 30 days. There's no law says that you have to use all 30 days, just be sure to enter the country after the visa begins and be out of the country before the 30 days are up. So, if you are only planning to be in Russia for a week or 2, you can have some flexibility with your itinerary.

Stravinsky: Thanks for the advice. I was just filling out my visa application when I read your report. I thought the dates of travel needed to precisely match the dates of the visa application. Based on your advice, I'll apply for a longer period on the visa to give myself a few extra days in case I miss my flight.

Question for the forum:

Because of the way my flights from St. Petersburg work, I have a single night layover in Moscow from roughly 14:00 to 10:00 the next day. I won't have much time to scope out the area and I've never been to Moscow before.

If you had one and only one night what would you do for mongering?

Since I don't have much time, I'm thinking I should go to a place with high selection/high quality. Is NightFlight such a place, or is it all hype? Do I hire a reliable driver with references from this board and ask him to drive me to a tochka?

I've already RTFF, and have surmised that Tochkas, Salons, and some clubs are the place to be, but the forum seems to be oriented to people who have some time to pick and choose--not a get some gash and then dash mission like I'm on.

Leslymoritz,

I don't know who you are and why you are responding.
I wrote what I felt about Funlover11's post.
WGs who can afford to shoot their pictures and publish at their web sites, is not the subject.

As I wrote, that post smells like advertisement, and if you or others members want to advertise a girl, do it at the "classified ad section".

But if you want to share your experience with her, than you are more than welcome. This is my humble thought.

Besides, high class escort thing is a bogus. She doesnt have a golden pussy.

[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]
If you had one and only one night what would you do for mongering?
[/QUOTE]

Man, that's a hell of a question.
I suppose it comes down to how much you were willing to spend and how much energy you had. If you don't speak any Russian then it limits your choices a little, but never fear.

Believe it or not, I would try Night Flight. In fact, if your budget cane handle it go there for dinner (reservation recommended) about 9:00 PM - 9:30 PM and get a table right at the top of the stairs so that you can get a good view of the "parade" of hardened pros who come to check out who's in the restaurant. The food is great and the scenery is better. After dinner go downstairs (no need to pay the cover charge now) and check out the action. But DO NOT EVEN THINK about leaving with one of the girls. They are gorgeous to be sure but they are too expensive and their performance is terrible. In fact, their performance seems inversely proportional to their ability to speak English. The better their English, the higher the price, the worse the performance. Remember this!!!!!!!

So after you get an eyeful of that prime Moscow pussy, grab a cab out front and head over to Hot Dog's - formerly known as Boar House formerly known as Chesterfields. Be prepared to use all three names as many Moscow cab drivers still call if Chesterfields and many call it Boar House. There you will find plenty of nice looking devushkas who will be willing to rock your world for a whole lot less money. But be careful - if you find one who speaks decent English you had better interview carefully. Just as with Night Flight, these girls who have mastered English have also mastered the art of the rip off. IMHO the gems at Hot Dogs are the girls from out of town (Nishny Novgorod, Tula, Tver, etc) who are in town to make some money. They have no where else to stay (except a friend's sofa) and will stay the night without issue.

Depending on the night of the week, if you are looking for more of a Club Scene, you might want to try The Real McCoy after 2:00 AM. There are usually girls there looking to get lucky but it's hit and miss.
There are also some more high ends clubs with stunners but not what I would consider mongering destinations. I'm sure Dr. Skank would disagree but if you only have one night and don't speak much Russian the odds of wasting a lot of time and coming up empty handed are high. With Moscow's new prosperity, the lure of the foreigner is long since dead in high end places.

There are also some pub's like John Bull, Sixteen Tons, etc which are great but not really mongering spots.

A few years ago, I would have squeezed in a trip to Safari Lodge for a trip to lap dance heaven, but since the move and price increase it's not worth it.

The tochka option is a possibility but only if you have the right cab driver. Again, IMHO too risky with only one night. Who needs the aggravation?

Of course, you can always call an escort and there are plenty of phone numbers in the magazines in the hotel and the Moscow Times personal ads. But if you only have one night, just go to Hot Dog and stand near the bar - you will have plenty to choose from.

Just my opinion - good luck and have fun.

Jake993 excellent suggestions on how to spend one great night in Moscow, probably the best advice that I have seen for a long time!

Great suggestions, Jake, though I'd say you're only half right on NF. I agree that most girls there ARE "hardened pros" as you say, though if you're lucky you can find a girl who's new to the biz and still enjoys sex. That said, I haven't been since late '06, when they were asking for 4 bens LT and you could usually talk them down to 3. From this weekend's experience on Yaroslavka (main tochka drag north of the city), you can't even pick up tochka trash for that amount anymore. I was surprised that 10K will only get you a 6-7, and for anything better you need to shell out 15K ($660! For a tochka girl! ). And that's not including what you'll need to pay the driver or tips.

As for CF, I haven't returned since it became HotDog, primarily because my friends told me it was "dead" and "thug infested". I was personally never that fond of it, but it did have its niche as a "budgetny variant" for takeout vs NF, and as a fun, if somewhat seedy place to hang with other expats.

Now. What would I suggest? I totally agree with kicking off the evening with dinner at NF. Seriously boys, it's the best service in town, hands down. And the food is pretty solid too. And the scenery. Well, that speaks for itself. Then I'd warm up with some titties in my face. Since Oh La La has gone seriously downhill and the new Safari is too sanitary for my tastes (I was actually chided for touching during a lapdance! What is this, the US?), I would pick Violette or Bordo. BTW, what's up with the color-themed strip clubs of late? Maybe I should open up one called Goluboy. Anyway, back on topic. If laying pipe at one of those places is too rich for your blood (10K/hr), then I’d suggest returning to Tverskaya for late night (ie 3am-6am) at Etazh. Drinks are cheap, food is decent, the music hip, and most importantly. Plenty of girls head across the street after their shifts at NF for a mojito+kalyan and will quite possibly give you a deep discount (if not just go for free). And if you strike out there (or lamely claim that no one meets your fancy), Fantasy's is right around the corner and open 24/7 (though they recently hiked their rates to 4K/hr). You can be assured that the talent there is always good (the last girl I had there insisted I fist her – that was a first! ) And finish the night, er, morning, with a big post-coital Amerikansky breakfast at StarLite Diner, with plenty of time to drop by your apartment, pick up your suitcase and make it to the airport in time for your flight out of Moscow.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Fantasy's is right around the corner and open 24/7 [/QUOTE]

You know, I have NEVER been able to find Fantasy's. Where the heck is it? I have walk in circle for an hour and given up in disgust.

That's a great suggestion about Itaszh and NF girls. Never even thougth about that. I used to drop by the Republica Bar next the casino for the very same thing - of course it's closed now.

I'v read a lot of the forum, and if i'm not wrong peak day is week mon fri and the week end is low season?

tnx

Jake and Pizdyets,

Thanks for great advice! I'm one who usually prefers quality to quantity. I'd rather have one great $300 fuck than three mediocre $100 ones. Of course, by then I may be well spent, since it's a layover on my way back from porn shooting in St. Petersburg.

It sounds like Nightflight is the way to go for sightseeing followed by Violette or Bordo or Hot Dog's for some action. Although I've always wanted to see a tochka after reading about it on the forums.... I'll see.

If anyone's going to be there Saturday night, August 30, and wants to get together for some mongering, send me a PM!

Thanks again guys!

[QUOTE=Jake993]Believe it or not, I would try Night Flight. In fact, if your budget cane handle it go there for dinner (reservation recommended) about 9:00 PM - 9:30 PM and get a table right at the top of the stairs so that you can get a good view of the "parade" of hardened pros who come to check out who's in the restaurant. The food is great and the scenery is better. After dinner go downstairs (no need to pay the cover charge now) and check out the action. But DO NOT EVEN THINK about leaving with one of the girls. They are gorgeous to be sure but they are too expensive and their performance is terrible. In fact, their performance seems inversely proportional to their ability to speak English. The better their English, the higher the price, the worse the performance. Remember this!!!!!!!

So after you get an eyeful of that prime Moscow pussy, grab a cab out front and head over to Hot Dog's - formerly known as Boar House formerly known as Chesterfields. Be prepared to use all three names as many Moscow cab drivers still call if Chesterfields and many call it Boar House. There you will find plenty of nice looking devushkas who will be willing to rock your world for a whole lot less money. But be careful - if you find one who speaks decent English you had better interview carefully. Just as with Night Flight, these girls who have mastered English have also mastered the art of the rip off. IMHO the gems at Hot Dogs are the girls from out of town (Nishny Novgorod, Tula, Tver, etc) who are in town to make some money. They have no where else to stay (except a friend's sofa) and will stay the night without issue.

Depending on the night of the week, if you are looking for more of a Club Scene, you might want to try The Real McCoy after 2:00 AM. There are usually girls there looking to get lucky but it's hit and miss.

There are also some more high ends clubs with stunners but not what I would consider mongering destinations. I'm sure Dr. Skank would disagree but if you only have one night and don't speak much Russian the odds of wasting a lot of time and coming up empty handed are high. With Moscow's new prosperity, the lure of the foreigner is long since dead in high end places.

There are also some pub's like John Bull, Sixteen Tons, etc which are great but not really mongering spots.

A few years ago, I would have squeezed in a trip to Safari Lodge for a trip to lap dance heaven, but since the move and price increase it's not worth it.

The tochka option is a possibility but only if you have the right cab driver. Again, IMHO too risky with only one night. Who needs the aggravation?

Of course, you can always call an escort and there are plenty of phone numbers in the magazines in the hotel and the Moscow Times personal ads. But if you only have one night, just go to Hot Dog and stand near the bar - you will have plenty to choose from.

Just my opinion - good luck and have fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jake993]You know, I have NEVER been able to find Fantasy's. Where the heck is it? I have walk in circle for an hour and given up in disgust.[/QUOTE]Um, no offense Jake, but were you looking for a big neon sign over the podyezd? I've never been to a salon that played that way in Moscow (or any other city in Russia for that matter). Of course militsia knows all about them. But prostitution is officially illegal and they've judiciously chosen not to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the powers-that-be by flaunting their operation/location. You need to call them when you're nearby (outside Etazh, for example) and they'll pick you up.

All of that said, Fantasy's is nestled back in Kozitskiy Pereulok.

[QUOTE=Jake993]You know, I have NEVER been able to find Fantasy's. Where the heck is it? I have walk in circle for an hour and given up in disgust.[/QUOTE]
Jake,

Fantasys
Kozitskii pereylok
dom 3
799-46-57

That's as much as I will reveal. The building used to have a travel agency office on the ground floor, which is the easiest way to find it. You can also reach it by walking through the arch on Strastnoy and through the dvor. If all else fails, just call them and they will send someone to fetch you (really).

It is, literally, right across Tverskaya from Night Flight. So, have dinner at NF, flirt with all the beautiful dyeffki there, for as long as you can stand it, and then pop across the street for your happy ending, for a fraction of the price. Although 4000r is a little pricey, but still worth it.

счастливо

[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]I'd rather have one great $300 fuck than three mediocre $100 ones.[/QUOTE]
My experience has been it's more likely to be the other way 'round.

Where will you be staying the night you are there? Hotel, apartment?

Do you speak any Russian? At all?

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]My experience has been it's more likely to be the other way 'round.

Where will you be staying the night you are there? Hotel, apartment?

Do you speak any Russian? At all?[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with Strav... what you pay has no influence on the performance and often little influence on the appearance or hygiene of the girl.

I am not talking ultra-cheap hos... they are generally untouchable. But when we are talking "normal" prices, anything above the standard rates will bring distressingly little extra in terms of performance or beauty.

I too wish things were more simple. Or maybe I'm happy they aren't... sex is still a big mystery, and even with a paid professional I still get that heart flutter when I first get a glimpse of tit, her kitty or first slip it through her wet moist gates...